@@BarstoneRC ya know I’m not sure. I wouldn’t be surprised. I tried it first with the 15 tooth factory gear and it was awesome. But lost the grub screw and so just for fun I put a 20 tooth on it and that was still super powerful and insanely fast. But it got super hot in maybe 5 minutes of easy test driving. I’m glad you mention that. Maybe I’ll stick with 4S. It honestly didn’t make as much a difference from 4 to 6S as it had stock. It was just a little peppier
@@BarstoneRC if so I’m gonna be pissed if it bursts into flames. I’ll definitely keep an eye on it and slowly take it a little further and further until I’m comfortable it’s not going to burn up.
I just built a Talion, absolutely love it … I’m running a 17t pinion tho, some ppl were recommending an 18/19t but I didn’t wanna go overboard. Think 17t will be alright or should I drop back down to 15t? I’ve only ran like 2 packs through it, so far it’s been fine 🤷🏻♂️
I am hitting 65 mph with a 19tooth in my Talion exb and the stock setup which seems like a good deal of power. Plus, there is still a good deal of speed left to be had. HOW much faster is this? Now that said, my fully stock TC Muraco is hitting 68 mph with an 18 tooth. Shame Arrma discontinued their best vechile. This thing, of anything is overbuilt it is so tough.
I used hot glue and once I cleaned there lack of diff out oil out I was able to put gears back in then shot the hot glue and it fill all the cavities. Yes it does drive much better I loved it 💪🏼💪🏼 and btw in don't trust anything I cant see and they know some of us will never seen till they blow a diff and need to buy one and thatz just what they want 🤑🤑🤑 been working on cars and anything with a motor for 40 years and it's the same with the automotive industry they don't make money on cars they make money on parts so many things could be made to last longer but that wouldn't make any sense to them now would it 😜😜😜 anyways thanks for the video buddy peace out
I'm building a tlr typhon now, have a hobbywing max6 combo, not sure which servo but spectrum all metal and need to get transmitter, radio, batteries and the gear. I plan on running 4s to play at outdoor tracks not bash too much. Never ran hobbywing I hope it's reliable. I have a outcast 1/8, tlr typhon 1/8 and 2 vorteks 3s now.
@@BarstoneRC I grabbed a spectrum s6230 all metal high torque, I can't wait to run it lol still need batteries and waiting for my radio/transmitter to arrive anyday now. What size gear do you think I should run? Just checked and I have the hobbywing xerun xr8 with 2600kv motor combo not the max6
Awesome shop video, i just went to the hobby shop today to pick up some paint and diff fluids for my next build, should be awesome, got 100k and 500k fluid mainly for the reeper, i told you that power system is awesome lol
I can imagine buddy. That max6 combo is a beast. I struggle to keep my kraton on the ground and getting the throttle open all the way is not easy. I think I want a talion next. Just need to convince my wife. 🤪👍
Ifs funny how u put a video out with the centre diff being ear plugged as I've done my diff the same way today on my exb k6, it the videoni filmed 2 days ago I said about my diff feeling weak so I said I was goin to plug it and now u have done the same lol, that motor looks sweet I want one I think 😉👍👊
I really appreciate the details you put into diff maintenance part using the ear plugs, super helpful! I'll use it as a reference if I ever need to something similar. Thank you!
It’s funny you upload a video with the max 6 since I just got a rustler 4x4 with a max 8 in it. Stupid powerful and not to bad of a price for the quality. I’d also suggest checking out the castle sidewinder 8th. I have two combos and they run flawless.
Ya I would have got one as well if it didn't have trash electronics in it, or if they partnered with hobby wing and put a real max 8 system that would be interesting
About to change out the center diff fluid on my EXB Talion and just wanted to confirm it’s okay to use the silicone ear plugs on the EXB diffs. I assume yes because I saw the LSD plates when you took it apart.
I’m glad you’re digging it more now bro! I’m running a 20t pinion on my Krajave w/ that 1650 Rocket & Outcast Backflips, no wing, & a Chevy c-10 body, it’s an absolute monster!
I’ve been running the max6 combo in my kraton since new a year ago on a 21t pinion and it’s awesome. So much power in fact I run a max6 in all my rigs and never had a problem. Enjoy bars look forward to seeing it jump now 👍🏻
I noticed horizon has basically become just like traxxas when it comes to the warranty, they want you to send it to them and wait a month just to find out "IF" they will warranty it
@@BarstoneRC I know it was one of the things that made me like arrma/horizon so much, they really took care of the customers, and if they aren't gonna make it easy to warranty bad electronics then they need to start using better electronics... the current spektrum equipment is border line unexceptable, way to many failures. And most people experience similar issues so obviously there is a problem...
Idk why they told you it would take that long. I just shipped 3 3s esc on Saturday. Got a email today saying that they have been fixed and shipped back to me
I’m thinking about pulling the trigger on the Tailon EXB. Arma diffs just drive me nuts. After all the RUclips vids showing how their diffs never have enough fluid, you’d think Arma would get the freaking message. Any reason not to buy this rig? It does look great and is fast like a devil. Also, did you shim all three diffs before your very first run?
I did the front and rear differential and topped off all the fluids with any manufacture or any car the differentials are never properly filled but no this car has been a blast and I’ve really enjoyed it
Hey man, love the videos! No one sends it like you, and it’s awesome because it shows everyone howmuch these cars can handle! One question if you don’t mind.. Have you ever burned out a motor from installing a faster pinion? I’ve been on the stock pinion with my Vorteks and Typhon 3s, but I’ve avoided the cheap upgrade in fear of burning the motor out.
No you can usually go up two or three teeth with no problem from the stock pinion best thing to do is if you’re running it really hard just check the temperatures.
I’ve recently pulled some out then I ran for almost a year and it doesn’t really break down it becomes slightly more gummy like and it gets a little darker due to old fluid residue I think inside.
I knew that MAX6 1650KV would pump in that rig! But it really sucks that you gotta basically EAT $200 for a system that isn't worth it's weight by any means 😤 I learned about broken motor caps on my TYPHON V3. Receiver foam padding from any LHS will work wonders under the motor can. Just servo tape it down to the chassis. Also works well in the battery trays too. Just trim to fit. 👍🏾
That’s what’s crazy I have beat the living snot out of my Typhon 6s and the electronics have been holding awesome on that thing but yet on this car I run it twice and it shits the bed
@@BarstoneRC yeah, I guess it's just luck of the draw or how hard you run it? A childhood friend of mine has a Typhon 6S, he's on his THIRD ESC in less than 12 months! 😬 I told him to go Hobbywing, but he keeps saying as long as it's "FREE" 😒🤣🤣🤣
You void the warranty as soon as you jump it, adjust the shocks, adjust the alignment or change the tires. Their warranty is a joke. They probably will take care of it if there are a lot of complaints or they know you're a popular social media person.
That hasn't been my experience at all. I call and tell them what's broken,they walk me through a few things to see if it's an easy fix,if that doesn't work they send out a new part. Same with traxxas. Maybe you should implement a "dont ask,don't tell" policy. I've never had them ask if I've jumped,adjusted, or added anything to my rc.
Dude wtf with horizon My talion esc went up in flames 🔥 And I had to send the whole car back to horizon still waiting on my new truck it’s supposed to be here Thursday Still the esc is programmed to shut off if it gets to hot and it didn’t as soon as I get my new truck Iam putting a max 6 in it wtf with horizon
Excellent. Thanks for sharing. John
Can't wait to get mine or sledge like Ur Vida brill👍😁✌️🍻💯
Cool upgrades and bashing
Thanks man I appreciate you tuning in.
I just put the 200amp xr8 plus 6S and a 2250kv hobbywing in mine and it runs like crazy on 6S
I’d be real interested to see how it stacks up against the MAX6.
Is that the one that has been catching fire the new one? I’m not bashing it I’m just curious?
@@BarstoneRC ya know I’m not sure. I wouldn’t be surprised. I tried it first with the 15 tooth factory gear and it was awesome. But lost the grub screw and so just for fun I put a 20 tooth on it and that was still super powerful and insanely fast. But it got super hot in maybe 5 minutes of easy test driving. I’m glad you mention that. Maybe I’ll stick with 4S. It honestly didn’t make as much a difference from 4 to 6S as it had stock. It was just a little peppier
@@BarstoneRC if so I’m gonna be pissed if it bursts into flames. I’ll definitely keep an eye on it and slowly take it a little further and further until I’m comfortable it’s not going to burn up.
I just built a Talion, absolutely love it … I’m running a 17t pinion tho, some ppl were recommending an 18/19t but I didn’t wanna go overboard. Think 17t will be alright or should I drop back down to 15t? I’ve only ran like 2 packs through it, so far it’s been fine 🤷🏻♂️
No 17 is great gearing for this car
@@BarstoneRC thanks man, I’m somewhat new to RC cars so I’m a little paranoid lol. Greatly appreciate ya mane
Where do you get the things you put in the diff
Silicone, earplugs on Amazon or eBay
I had the same shitty experience with spectrum
Those the esc fan stay on at all times or at a certain temperature kicks on
They seam to run all the time.
I am hitting 65 mph with a 19tooth in my Talion exb and the stock setup which seems like a good deal of power. Plus, there is still a good deal of speed left to be had. HOW much faster is this? Now that said, my fully stock TC Muraco is hitting 68 mph with an 18 tooth. Shame Arrma discontinued their best vechile. This thing, of anything is overbuilt it is so tough.
It’s has a lot more torque power. plenty for whatever your doing
Keep doing these videos I need the education. Thanks
Thanks bud I appreciate that, I don’t ever know if people really like the upgrade repair videos it seems always hit or miss.
Ready to rip again 💪🔥
Headed out for its first rib today and had a blast.
Same exact motor esc combo I have in my kraton exb it was even a tight fit in it.
Yeah it just fits in there!
@@BarstoneRC yeah looks like the kraton and talion have the same amount of room bc it was extremely tight on my kraton also.
What servo you like in it?
I’m now using the HItec DB961
@@BarstoneRC sweet I’m gonna try one out !
I used hot glue and once I cleaned there lack of diff out oil out I was able to put gears back in then shot the hot glue and it fill all the cavities. Yes it does drive much better I loved it 💪🏼💪🏼 and btw in don't trust anything I cant see and they know some of us will never seen till they blow a diff and need to buy one and thatz just what they want 🤑🤑🤑 been working on cars and anything with a motor for 40 years and it's the same with the automotive industry they don't make money on cars they make money on parts so many things could be made to last longer but that wouldn't make any sense to them now would it 😜😜😜 anyways thanks for the video buddy peace out
Thanks for watching bud I appreciate it
Might be the next on my list
After a few changes and upgrades this thing is a blast.
Nice video👍😊 where did you by the diffear plug?
Off Amazon, just search silicone earplugs
@@BarstoneRC ok. Thank you. I gonna try it on my hyper st truggy e convert.
I'm building a tlr typhon now, have a hobbywing max6 combo, not sure which servo but spectrum all metal and need to get transmitter, radio, batteries and the gear. I plan on running 4s to play at outdoor tracks not bash too much. Never ran hobbywing I hope it's reliable. I have a outcast 1/8, tlr typhon 1/8 and 2 vorteks 3s now.
The hobby wing stuff is really nice and durable, but if you’re looking for a good servo the power HD are pretty good and they hold up well
@@BarstoneRC I grabbed a spectrum s6230 all metal high torque, I can't wait to run it lol still need batteries and waiting for my radio/transmitter to arrive anyday now. What size gear do you think I should run? Just checked and I have the hobbywing xerun xr8 with 2600kv motor combo not the max6
I would first try a 15 tooth. And go from there
@@BarstoneRC appreciate it
Awesome shop video, i just went to the hobby shop today to pick up some paint and diff fluids for my next build, should be awesome, got 100k and 500k fluid mainly for the reeper, i told you that power system is awesome lol
Yeah I just got back from its first run with this thing at the track and it was awesome!
@@BarstoneRC loads of power its overkill but fun lol
@@BarstoneRC 1650kv motor?
Hey man I just posted a short with a center diff issue I'm having. Care to take a look and see where I've went wrong?
Sure shoot me the link
@@BarstoneRC ruclips.net/user/shortsECR9-WBS2Sg?feature=share
You were not afraid of that engine sticking out like that ? It would be a rare crash but say you hit a rock or curb.
NAV pretty unlikely
Now that's how it should come
Absolutely right there!
Glad you are liking the talion exb more. 👍
I just got back from the first run with this thing and I was not disappointed, I had a blast with it this time.
I can imagine buddy. That max6 combo is a beast. I struggle to keep my kraton on the ground and getting the throttle open all the way is not easy. I think I want a talion next. Just need to convince my wife. 🤪👍
Been there with horizon.. Same thing, called and was told no problem.. return email saying to return the whole rig, not just the esc.. No thanks...🤣..
Yeah not real happy with them at the moment.
i`ve started to use earplugs in my centre diff on the kralion , i`ll never go back to fluid again , its great
I know it is awesome it is so much more traction and air control for a basher there’s no better thing.
Enjoyed the vid , nice to see the wrenching . So much better than just saying “this is what I did” 👍👌👍
I’m glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching him.
Ifs funny how u put a video out with the centre diff being ear plugged as I've done my diff the same way today on my exb k6, it the videoni filmed 2 days ago I said about my diff feeling weak so I said I was goin to plug it and now u have done the same lol, that motor looks sweet I want one I think 😉👍👊
I really appreciate the details you put into diff maintenance part using the ear plugs, super helpful! I'll use it as a reference if I ever need to something similar. Thank you!
I’m glad you like the video bud and thanks for watching.
Very nice ! I stuck that setup in my Kraton exb that I never run! 😂 that Talion looks sweet tho….
Why don’t you ever run it?
@@BarstoneRC been too heavy into the speed run thing , but I will
Would love to give you an opportunity to review some game changing parts.
What kind of parts are we talking about?
Any trouble with your steering servo? My stock exb just lost steering on first run. Was babying it too
The stock ones tend to not last very long unfortunately I’ve pretty much replaced every one I’ve had.
Love it
It’s funny you upload a video with the max 6 since I just got a rustler 4x4 with a max 8 in it. Stupid powerful and not to bad of a price for the quality. I’d also suggest checking out the castle sidewinder 8th. I have two combos and they run flawless.
This is the max6 combo 1650kv but yeah I put a castle set up in my outcast 8S and love that thing it’s got tons and tons of power
@@BarstoneRC I miss read at first glance. Half asleep before work….. I can’t wait to see this combo compare to my castle setup in my kraton exb.
Yeah I’m getting ready to head out here in a few minutes for it’s first run today and see how it goes.
I love that car I want it just I have no clue why they made it a rtr I want it as a roller
I hear you bud I was in the same boat. Decided to get it anyway and now Chucked all the electronics anyway lol
Ya I would have got one as well if it didn't have trash electronics in it, or if they partnered with hobby wing and put a real max 8 system that would be interesting
Well I just took mine out with the max six combo and it’s absolutely awesome.
@@BarstoneRC nice man cant wait for the vid
About to change out the center diff fluid on my EXB Talion and just wanted to confirm it’s okay to use the silicone ear plugs on the EXB diffs. I assume yes because I saw the LSD plates when you took it apart.
Use earplugs in the center 50,000 in the front and 30,000 in the rear
hi :) what diff oil you used for front/rear diffs? thanks!
50k front silicone earplugs in the center and 20 K in the back
how many input gears have you stripped since the earplugs went in
None. Haven’t had any problems
Very nice bro! I’ve got a Rocket 1650 & a spectrum 160 in my Krajave! It rips on a whole new level! Enjoy bro👊
Just had it out for his first run and had a blast with this thing.
I’m glad you’re digging it more now bro!
I’m running a 20t pinion on my Krajave w/ that 1650 Rocket & Outcast Backflips, no wing, & a Chevy c-10 body, it’s an absolute monster!
Wow man looks like a blast now it really does have that extra kick! Maybe a castle system isn’t necessary.
Yeah I wanted to try this system and see which one I like better.
My local shop guys push the castle systems as the best the offer, I went with hobbywing max6.
I’ve been running the max6 combo in my kraton since new a year ago on a 21t pinion and it’s awesome. So much power in fact I run a max6 in all my rigs and never had a problem. Enjoy bars look forward to seeing it jump now 👍🏻
Good to hear it man I took it out for its first run today and it was pretty awesome!
That is going to rip with that system in it 👍👍
Another great video man.
When money permits I think a Talion is in my future.
I noticed horizon has basically become just like traxxas when it comes to the warranty, they want you to send it to them and wait a month just to find out "IF" they will warranty it
Yeah I’m noticing the same thing I’m hoping it’s temporary due to electronica shortage and stuff going on but I guess we will see?
@@BarstoneRC I know it was one of the things that made me like arrma/horizon so much, they really took care of the customers, and if they aren't gonna make it easy to warranty bad electronics then they need to start using better electronics... the current spektrum equipment is border line unexceptable, way to many failures. And most people experience similar issues so obviously there is a problem...
Yeah there’s too many reoccurring issues with the electronics they’re not acceptable especially to charge the price they do for them
I like the occasional shop videos, I just got my Talion and put 4s backflips on it first thing. Absolutely rips. Hate that it wasn’t a roller though.
Yeah I wish it was a roller from the start but after a few changes the car is definitely a lot of fun
Idk why they told you it would take that long. I just shipped 3 3s esc on Saturday. Got a email today saying that they have been fixed and shipped back to me
I’m thinking about pulling the trigger on the Tailon EXB. Arma diffs just drive me nuts. After all the RUclips vids showing how their diffs never have enough fluid, you’d think Arma would get the freaking message. Any reason not to buy this rig? It does look great and is fast like a devil. Also, did you shim all three diffs before your very first run?
I did the front and rear differential and topped off all the fluids with any manufacture or any car the differentials are never properly filled but no this car has been a blast and I’ve really enjoyed it
@@BarstoneRC thanks for the reply 👍
I put the max 6 combo in my kraton exb and I ordered the basherqueen carbon fiber esc plate. It's much better than the stock. It's made for the max6
Hey man, love the videos! No one sends it like you, and it’s awesome because it shows everyone howmuch these cars can handle!
One question if you don’t mind.. Have you ever burned out a motor from installing a faster pinion? I’ve been on the stock pinion with my Vorteks and Typhon 3s, but I’ve avoided the cheap upgrade in fear of burning the motor out.
No you can usually go up two or three teeth with no problem from the stock pinion best thing to do is if you’re running it really hard just check the temperatures.
it could be interesting to see how the central differential's earplug looks like after many runs, does it become fluid and black?
I’ve recently pulled some out then I ran for almost a year and it doesn’t really break down it becomes slightly more gummy like and it gets a little darker due to old fluid residue I think inside.
I knew that MAX6 1650KV would pump in that rig! But it really sucks that you gotta basically EAT $200 for a system that isn't worth it's weight by any means 😤 I learned about broken motor caps on my TYPHON V3. Receiver foam padding from any LHS will work wonders under the motor can. Just servo tape it down to the chassis. Also works well in the battery trays too. Just trim to fit. 👍🏾
That’s what’s crazy I have beat the living snot out of my Typhon 6s and the electronics have been holding awesome on that thing but yet on this car I run it twice and it shits the bed
@@BarstoneRC yeah, I guess it's just luck of the draw or how hard you run it? A childhood friend of mine has a Typhon 6S, he's on his THIRD ESC in less than 12 months! 😬 I told him to go Hobbywing, but he keeps saying as long as it's "FREE" 😒🤣🤣🤣
Yeah my Typhon has seen some of the worst abuse and it’s still kicking somehow
You void the warranty as soon as you jump it, adjust the shocks, adjust the alignment or change the tires. Their warranty is a joke. They probably will take care of it if there are a lot of complaints or they know you're a popular social media person.
That hasn't been my experience at all. I call and tell them what's broken,they walk me through a few things to see if it's an easy fix,if that doesn't work they send out a new part. Same with traxxas. Maybe you should implement a "dont ask,don't tell" policy. I've never had them ask if I've jumped,adjusted, or added anything to my rc.
Yeah in the past that was my same experience I don’t know what’s going on recently?
@@dustinfowler7868 I just got the info from their manual for the new 6S exb Outcast. I'm glad you've had a good experience.
Yea I lost confident buying from horizon recently, they been slacking on there warranties
Yeah it looks that way unfortunately
Dude wtf with horizon
My talion esc went up in flames 🔥
And I had to send the whole car back to horizon still waiting on my new truck it’s supposed to be here Thursday
Still the esc is programmed to shut off if it gets to hot and it didn’t as soon as I get my new truck Iam putting a max 6 in it wtf with horizon
I hear you man, I’m extremely unhappy with them and where their warranty process is now going
good ol horizon hobby....smh
Yeah I had great experiences in the past but lately not so much.
I dont like horizon only order feom amain
I’ve ordered a number of things a main always great.