The DIFFICULT life of Henry VIII older sister Margaret Tudor
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- Margaret is one of the lest spoken about tudors, yet historians know a great deal about her. And that is tribute to her letters. Margaret had extensive correspondence with her family members back in England. Margaret Tudor, the eldest daughter of King Henry VII and Elizabeth of York. She was only thirteen at the time of her marriage to King James IV of Scotland, but she had been trained for her new role and was determined to prove her worth.
Join us as we learn about her life and the loss and misfortune she suffered.
I can’t believe that a 13/14 year old little girl could have gone through all this with such strength and courage. I know and understand that she was brought up to do all this, but nevertheless it is astounding that she was so grown up she could handle it all.
Margaret Beaufort, mother of Henry the 7th did everything she could think of to delay her grandaughter's departure to Scotland. She was horrified that Mary would go there at the age of 14 to marry a much much older man. I think she wanted to avoid her granddaughter going through the same trauma she went through, marrying a 25 year old man at 12 and giving birth at 13. She almost died.
It was seen as "common decency" not to consumate a marriage before your bride is at least 14 (still horrible by today's standards), but Tudor was impatient to have an heir for Leicester of the red rose.
Margaret Beaufort married at age 11 before she had even gone through puberty. She became pregnant at age 12 and her labor at age 13 almost killed her and the baby. She was widowed young and remarried but never became pregnant again.
She is one of the reasons the Union exists for her descendant King James VI of Scotland inherited the English throne via her.
Pretty much the main reason
The Tudors show did her wrong by blending Margaret with her sister Mary as a single character. They could created a whole side story for Margaret.
Glad I didn't watch. Thnx 4 info
I have a 14 year old. It’s so weird thinking of girls that young being married.
Not only married but sent off to possibly never see her family ever again. It's sad. Times were so drastically different but still.
You could say the way we do things nowdays is weird & also backwards. We are the only animal on the planet that is discouraged from having sex/procreating as soon as we are sexually mature. If you wait until you're older & more financially stable your fertility is drastically decreased if not completely gone. By nature, our anatomy- hormones etc we should be getting married/having kids around that time. Of course my personal belief has always been if you're going to do it at any possible child bearing years stay on birthcontrol if it fails for any reason head to the abortion clinic, let all these dummies keep making their lives miserable popping out kids they cant take care of like they're a labrador retriever
@@leahvogelsimpson many did that long before getting married, even being sent to other countries. Its a little extreme but its the flip side of the extreme of today with some parents that try to be their kids friend & wont let them walk a block to the corner store which is even more rediculous, at least those kids then were learning useful things, seeing other parts of the world & not being brought up to be lil oversheltered co-dependant brats that cant handle the real world like so many are today
It's not so weird when you take into consideration that in those times your natural span of life wasn't as long as it is nowadays.
Scholars say the Virgin Mary was 14 when married
Poor Margaret! Her life seemed to have been full of so much tragedy! May she Rest in Peace in God's loving arms!
Was still light years more comfortable than the average peasant woman of the time.
Thank you for shining some light on lovely Margaret! I am fascinated by her life and how she moved through the world.
I love to vere off the beaten path with the "minor" players in the Tudor world. Margaret was an historic woman. We'll never know how much she helped to quell tensions between Scotland and England while she had influence. Women work in mysterious ways!!!!!
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A large part of Margaret's subsequent resentment of England, after the death of her husband; was that Katherine of Aragon, left as regent while Henry fought abroad, commanded the body of James IV be taken to England, and sent his bloody clothes to Henry in triumph. James' body was not returned to Scotland, and remains in London to this day.
I know. The woman she looked upon as a sister wouldn't let her bury her husband properly.
Its sad to see the princesses were used as lifeless things to make alliances with powerful countries regardless of their ages or choice.
I bet her kids hated their uncle Henry for the way he treated her
If I remember correctly, I don’t think her kids knew her very well. Not her son, at least.
@@katydid917 Royal children back then rarely saw their parents, I think.
Well... The scene in The Tudors was partially true. Margaret made arrangements and spent a fortune on H8 meeting JV...But JV decided not to go some reason because his mother had planned it and he didn't want to look like he was following her instead of being King...and I figure he had his own issues with everything H8 had done. At the time England was on the cusp of war again with France, as usual....and Scotland and France were usual allies so JV probably didn't go for that reason too
@@katydid917 Actually her daughter was the one that barely knew Margaret existed. Angus was always sheltered by H8, another reason for the feud between Margaret and H8... And the daughter grew up in England at court....and that daughter ended up being the mother of Darnley that married Mary Queen of Scots.
Her only son hated her, grew up without her, her daughter didn't know her.
i have always loved her story very interesting
edit i did not know that about her tomb being desecrated, thank you for this info
James Goddard centred she was clearly worried about the long-term treatment she and her servants would receive official functions with his arm around her waist
What a Notably Sad Life that This 'Noble' woman had! I feel 'Heartbroken' for her!!!
May SHE Rest in Peace!
So the Pope would annul HER marriage (12:56) ? Bet that went up Henry the VIII's rather large behind.
Thank you for this very interesting account of the life of Princess Margaret Tudor. She is one of history's forgotten characters, even though (and some of the other viewers have mentioned) her union with King James IV of Scotland provided the basis for the union of the crowns and kingdoms of England and Scotland in the early 17th and 18th centuries.
Maybe Elizabeth I's staunch desire to remain single and therefore in command of her own and her country's affairs, was in part a reaction to having seen what happened to her aunt in Scotland at the hand of nobles, once Margaret decided to wed again after James IV's death.
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Very good, I really enjoyed listening to that!
Thanks for this !! Love your pieces so far.
So glad to hear an informative piece on Margaret without the 'slut-shaming' pile on repeated by many who attempt her document her history, You added so much more info, context and interpretation of 'the fuller picture'. She had her share of 'men-problems' starting with her PITB hypocrite brother! [insert eye-rolls HERE} :-D
H8 only slut shamed her because she legitimatly had grounds for a divorce/annulment from her #2 husband and got one, and he couldn't get one from his #1 no matter how hard he tried!!
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very good informative video on Queen Margaret Tudor, who has not had the recognition she deserves, very few books on her which is surprising considering her very important position between the Stewart/Stuarts and the Tudors and was from this union that Scotland and England's crowns were United in 1603 under her great grandson King James VI of Scotland came about. Queen Margaret's life story is one of great interest and intrigue pitted against powerful male factions in the Scottish court , who clearly resented a woman having authority in Scotland particularly as Regent as equally did Queen Marie de Guise after her when ruling as regent for her daughter, Mary Queen of Scots whilst in France. Queen Margaret's life is in many ways mirrors that of her beautiful granddaughter, Queen Mary I (MQOS) of Scotland, three marriages used and abused by men for their own political benefits, Queen Mary as a regnant Queen fared much worse, both women had uphill struggles because one was foreign born, the other foreign reared ,both Catholic and females of authority which did not go down well amongst the Scottish nobility, who betrayed both Queens for their own political and personal gains. Despite all Queen Margaret Tudor did indeed survive, unlike her granddaughter Queen Mary I, who was betrayed and illegally deposed from her throne , illegally detained and murdered in England by Elizabeth Tudor , the illegitimate and illegal Queen of England. The fact that Queen Margaret did survive is testament to her determination and resilience of character and also the fact she was the sister to Henry VIII and the fact she did not wield supreme authority in Scotland, unlike Poor Queen Mary who did but was betrayed and abused by her treacherous nobility aided and abetted by Elizabeth Tudor and the English privy council. I keep hoping that Alison Weir will do a biography on Queen Margaret, who is a far more worthy recipient of one than some she has written about, eg the Boleyn Harlots Mary and Anne. Well narrated and done and it has given Queen Margaret some due recognition and respect she merits. How awful her tomb was desecrated during the reformation by the rabble inflamed by that vile arch heretic John Knox who was anything but a man of God rabble rouser, and woman hater and traitor to both his Queen and country.
Don't forget pedophile when it comes to Knox. His purposeful misinterpretation of scripture has lead to the disharmony still seen in the world.
The author had to paraphrase a lot but if you read up on Margaret, she is infinitely more interesting than all 6 of her sister in laws and Mary Queen of Scots. There was substantially more palace intrigue, backstabbing, throne grabbing, exile then return three times, shot cannons at one husband, had her kids kidnapped then stole them back, had literal and figurative wars with her tyrant brother ....most of that happened before she was 25 to 30 😂
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That poor woman..
It's surprising no one tried to assassinate Henry VIII
Maybe it's just a secret... It would be if it was done any attempts today (unless they can claim it to be from a certain "side").
When i heard that she is going to marry for the 3rd time after she just gone through a messy annullment to her power hungry 2nd husband i was like. Girl!! Why do you decided to marry again after the messy one? But Margaret was a underrated queen i must say.
Do we know Margaret’s relationship with James’s illegitimate children?
Not much really. Though shortly after she was introduced to them at Stirling, the nursery where they were kept was broken up and the children dispersed, so it's likely she wasn't too thrilled about them. Apart from that I doubt she would've had much to do with them.
@@isobelduncan she wasn't much older than her husband's children.
Henry was always jealous of his older sister because she came queen before he became king-and never let her forget. If only Henry 8th was never born. What an absolute jerk AND HORRIBLE BROTHER! Poor Margaret.
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so much I didn;t know...so interesting..
Well done!!
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I really enjoy this channel so very much. The dialog from these time was so poetic. This was such a hard time for Mary Queen of Scots. I believe there was evidence of her grand son's or her sons bodies being found in the steps of one of the castles. I am sorry that I cannot remember which one. This was centuries later I believe.
There were rumors for a long time, that 2 princes had been murdered by Richard III, and their bodies buried at the Tower.
During some construction work a few decades ago 2 children's bodies were found under some steps, yes. They were not from the correct time period. There is no record of who they were or why their bodies were put there.
Richard's murder of the 2 princes is now largely disbelieved by historians, Just some nasty rumors started to discredit him in history.
@@veramae4098 thank you so very much. I pictured everything you were saying. At the time, it was " normal" to sleep around at court. Women probably would've done or said anything at the time, to claim their children are their children. I've read many novels of this general period and it was quite fashionable to have the kings "bastard" child. Who knows if they weren't laying down with everyone, on the same day of being with the King just so they could say it was the king's child. It could be a reason the DNA didn't match? Just a theory. I've always have been super serious about proving if royalty people , who claim they were royalty, really were.
Henry was such a filthy hypocrite.
Dang.
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I feel sorry for the teenage queen with an unfaithful husband. Royal marriages were rarely prosperous. All three of her husbands were unworthy. But her descendants ruled Scotland and England. Henry Viii should have treated his sisters better. Elizabeth being daughter of Henry Viii would behead Mary Queen of Scots, granddaughter of Margaret.
this is cool to learn about because I'm related to her
@GaunletofDestruction so did you consummate your marriage with Catherine of Aragon? Because she swore nothing happened
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I've always loved that portrait of her. It looks like clothe of gold sleeves,with the marmoset.
And I also admire how she played by her own rules,and married who she wanted as she saw fit,(after the King of Scotts was killed). Although doing so in such a man's world as Tudor England,caused her a lot of grief.
She’s basically the founder of Great Britain.
I've met Queen Margret (at a renn fair). Wonderful lady
13?? No disrespect intended but today that’s called pedophilia! Poor Margaret! She never had a chance 😢
She was a bit older when she had her first child. Typically if a princess was married at 12/13, she wouldn’t sleep with her husband until she was 15/16. That is young but life expectancy was 25 years and the primary job of these women was to have kids. Margaret Beaufort is an exception. She had her son at 13 and never had any more kids. People then knew it wasn’t safe for 13-year-olds to go through childbirth - which is why she was an exception
@@Cybele1986 Life expectancy was NOT 25, that's rubbish.
@@venus_envy it was
@@ameacalliope8297 No, it wasn't. Especially not for royals.
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"Traveled to Scotland..." wow I already feel sorry for her.
It’s a shame that her husband was considered “kind” by hiding his affairs and “waiting” until she was 16 before impregnating her. Poor girl.
Well, I think it was a kind move by James at the time. Not many royal/noble girls had the same treatment. The lady Margaret Beaufort, Henry VIII's grandmother gave birth at only 13 years old.
@@romanovnagenesis1944 I understand that. It’s shameful that this was ever acceptable in human history. There are so many historical atrocities that are blamed on “the times”. It’s still atrocious.
@@taotaostrong I agree. It was a horrific time for girls and young women. Some were lucky to have lived passed their forties due to women being pregnant all the time. And childbirth was a death sentence if you had a compromised immune system. Sadly, it was a product of the time they lived in. 13-14 was the marriage age for catholic women back in the day. It's completely disgusting.
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You are imposing modern sensibilities upon the past where they do not necessarily belong.
I cant stop wondering what the heck that animal is in her portrait, it looks like some kind of lemur or monkey, but it could also be a really messed up cat?
😂 Lots of royals had a liking to monkeys and exotic pets and had portraits with them. The ones with the fluffy ears think are marmosets and are very cute looking but they certainly didn't do it any favors in the portrait. I suppose it isn't the focus but does it have to have a little creepy man face?
Ermine?
You should pronounce 'Holyrood' as 'Holly-rood'.
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Its shocking
He sprung for a quarter years salary worth of wine
At least he wasn't cheap
She probably got her rocks off with some strange too
She is quite a looker
Henry VIII didn’t have an older sister he was the second born child and boy Margaret was younger than her brothers being the first girl third child
Margaret was the second child of Henry vii, Henry viii was the third, and second son, and Margaret's younger brother.
Her niece Elizabeth looks like her
I'm really confused about the pronunciation. Is the word supposed to be perpetual? Is that how the British say it?
The castle is pronounced METH- VEN not met-even..
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But she finally wins and Henry looses
A king who was a dentist. Handy.
"Perputual" peace?
You’ve got a mistake “Maragret” Tudor should be Margaret Tudor!
I wanted to enjoy this but the audio was unclear and the huge white banner at the bottom popping up with names was irritating, sorry but I gave up half way through.
Strange. I have no idea what you mean.
It would be nice to see an entire painting at once instead of the scrolling pictures
Worst loudest commercials ever. I'm out.
When the video has played for a few minutes pull the bar at the bottom of video to the end, then pull it back to where you left off. No more ads.
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Sorry, forgot to say that when you get to the end let go, then pull it back. It works for me.
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Poor kids, born into such a cruel system. Ordered away from home and into forced marriages, and at such young ages.
Perhaps if you recite the content in a. Concrete block building like a school building as it has a natural reverb would give a more grandiose feel as you are speaking of royalty
Just like her granddaughter
I’m related to her.
I really really want to like and follow your channel but I won’t because the narrative is so hard to hear. It sounds as if you’re recording this in your kitchen with a microphone found in your local Op Shop.
Sounds fine to me. I’m glad of the effort to give this history, so any glitches are small fry.
Dreadful spelling mistakes in the captions
They are auto generated :)
@@HerRemarkableHistory yes dont blaney the uploader
While it is spelled ‘Holy-rood’ it is pronounced ‘Holly-rood’. I am Scottish, born on the west coast, grew up in Inverclyde, university in Aberdeen, lived in Edinburgh - where Holyrood is to this day - and I can assure you, your pronunciation is WRONG. Given your accent, I am assuming you’re English. You should know better.
Margaret not Maraget!! Your Articulation is not great 😌