The REBELLIOUS Love Life Of Henry VIII's Younger Sister - Mary Tudor
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
- The rebellious love life of Henry viii’s younger sister - Mary Tudor
When we think of the Tudor dynasty, our minds are almost instantly cast upon the turbulent and brutal king, Henry viii. His reign ripped a hole in the country and started the religious reformation turning catholics and the newly founded protestants against each other in a way that would last through not only his time on a throne, but for generations to come. But Henry was never meant to be king, he was in fact only made king through the premature death of his older brother Arthur. something that would send the country and the line of succession on a different path. Henry, along with his brother, also had two sisters. An older sister called Margaret and a younger called Mary. Mary initially did the kings bidding a married who she was told, but after the death of her first husband, and acting upon a promise of her brother, Mary then married for love. But she would never guess the uproar it would bring her way.
for all the reassurance of being a humble servant, she really went "I'm marrying your friend, deal with it"
After the sickly, geriatric French King Louis, Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk, must have been a breath of fresh air. How rarely we see royal marriages for love...
52 is not Geriatric. He was ill.
@@selecttravelvacations7472 But in those times' 5️⃣2️⃣ was considered old, sick or not.
52 is basically geriatric for the 1500's. If not geriatric its considered old. Plus always pictured Charles Brandon to he a snack, but maybe thats only because Henry Caville portrayed him in Tudors.
@@hardyquinn9442 yes to Henry Caville 😍
I can't really say that this one was for love because Charles of France basically forced the issue because she refused to submit and become his wife even though she had been his stepmother. It's a classic case of an oldest son creeping on his father's hot young wife. Because Henry had sent Brandon across the English Channel and Charles had him imprisoned elsewhere by naming Brandon as the man she loved she was trying to save his life. Yes out of love for him but also for the fact that if Charles executed Brandon as an English spy it would have started another war. Because Brandon had been such a good friend of King Henry. Yes she was clever using Charles's b******* to her own Advantage but she also didn't have a whole lot of strategic choice in the matter if her goal was to prevent a new war between England and France.
This is my favourite Tudor story. It has everything; love, intrigue, bravery, duplicity, secrecy, everything. I always wondered why Henry sent Charles to bring her back to England, knowing they were in love. I think they were so brave and determined. Such a lovely story.
Henry was a mean spirited sociapath. The happiness of others meant nothing to him. He was a power drunkard.
The 16th century is not known for their kind monarchs.
There was definitely something going on with him toward the end of his life but I don’t think it’s that simple. I’m not saying his actions are excusable, but it’s a multifaceted issue and things were a lot different back then.
@@savagedarksider5934 I think pretty much everyone was like that. Buncha drunks who couldn't drink the water because of dysentery. It affected the whole population from what I can tell. Kind people didn't start showing up till much later, and even now it's trying to be squashed in this country as everyone goes for self-centered, rather mean actions on a consistent basis.
He wanted to use Mary in another advantages marriage. His 'promise' to Mary meant nothing.
This is true...
I can’t believe it! She challenged Henry VIII and lived! I’m going to have to take a minute or two to wrap my brain around this.
She could surely write a good letter.
Well Done! Wonderfully told story!
i absolutely adore your videos! i do hope you make videos of other remarkable women from around the world, not just the women from the tudor era :)
~I wonder if Henry managed to stay awake till the end of Mary's long letters!!
Thank you
Mary Tudor was deeply in love with Brandon. But for some reason I can't put my finger on, I don't believe he was that much in love with her or his raised status once married to her. IDK, it's just my feeling.
In looking over Charles Brandon’s treatment of women, it was shockingly bad, even for the times he lived in. Accompanied with his overall behavior, I don’t think he was a good man…the perfect friend for a sociopathic king.
@@cynthial.seagren560 how did he treat women?
@@gabriella7140 he left his intended to marry her rich step-aunt. After he took control of the latter’s wealth, he divorced her to marry his original intended. Shortly after Mary Tudor died, he married Catherine Willoughby, the ward who was intended for his son. She had wealth.
@@cynthial.seagren560 wtf that's very sad. i hoped that Mary was happy but idk
It does seem like he only agreed to Mary’s deal as kind of a “ok, sure whatever” cuz the moment she remarried exactly who she wanted, It was like big brother either forgot or had selective memory or else it wouldn’t have made him mad. Henry VIII, you suck as a brother and a human being
will you being doing a video about margaret tutor...she was my 14th g,grandmother and id love to know more about her...
I think they already did a video on Margaret
Yes they made a video, plus there's over 2000 people who claim descendant of bother Mary and marget
Wow! I'm impressed! But I'm American and we have boring presidents.
@@dianetheisen8664 ALL the American Presidents, except Van Buren and Trump (maybe Biden, not sure about him) are descendants of King John of England
Aren’t you able to type ‘Margaret Tudor’ into a search engine and do your own research about your supposed great relative?
Did Henry ever do anything out of the goodness of his heart Nope not even for his own baby sister as usual he had his own agenda!
I love how thr king of France supported Mary with her merriege and was even in the wedding
Funny how how sisters could ensure their lineage lived on and yet Henry chops no pun intended couldn’t 😅that would’ve touched his ego
her letters were so long and wordy, I doubt if he even read them through.
I thought it was never going to end... Haha
Lol! I dozed off myself
Alas, today it's just a quick text or tweet
As long as it was filled w compliments, he read it.
It was necessary to soothe and appeal to the ego of her brother. What I liked about Henry's sisters is that they were highly educated for the Era, thanks to the influence of their mother, Elizabeth of York.
Queen Elizabeth II is descended from this Mary Tudor through her late mother.
Honestly that her stepson would pursue her sexually is super gross. The man she had always loved Charles Suffolk was apparently kept apart from her until she answered her stepson whether she would consent to be his Queen also. But because that is incest most foul because she had already slept with his father she answered him that she would rather be with Brandon which is no less than she had already told King Henry himself. Seems to me like her stepson had some Grosso fantasies about his new stepmother and she was simply trying to put him off in the most effective way possible by being married to someone else someone who she had wanted anyway. Having to give up all of the money she had gained from being queen of France is a pretty steep fee to pay just to marry the man she loved. I'm sure it pleased her stepson Charles of France to get back at Henry the 8th by essentially forcing the marriage which was against Henry's wishes. Giving up that much Dowry and money and Jewelry which essentially stripped her of everything she had gained by following the King's will and becoming queen of France. Would have materially reduced Charles Brandon's power at the English court for being involved in this infamous thing. But since the king of France Charles had essentially been threatening his life and the only way The Dowager Queen could save the man she loved was to marry him and ofend her brother Henry the 8 she really didn't have a lot of choice in the matter. I think her fees and penalties were eventually reduced when she was able to explain to him how much Charles of France had forced the issue and that she did it to satisfy him and to get the man she loved out of danger more than to rebel against King Henry.
I'm sure King Henry would have been absolutely horrified that her stepson wanted to force The Dowager Queen to be his Queen also. And therefore he would have good reason to have mercy on his sister for the offense that the king of France had forced her to do. The only choice she had in the matter was in naming Brandon in order to save his life also. If I recall correctly this whole thing happened before the Queen Anne Boleyn problem. And therefore all parties concerned were still good Catholics. I do not believe that the pope of that time regardless of King Charles of Francis pressure would have allowed him to marry his father's Widow cuz that's just gross. I have no doubt that the Cardinal of France would have advised his King that there was no grounds on which he was getting a Pope's dispensation to commit that level of incest. Therefore he chose the next most effective way of annoying King Henry to his greatest possible measure. I have no doubt that the fact that King Henry insisted she be referred to as the queen of France for the rest of her life instead of the Duchess of Suffolk was a way of publicly punishing her for going against his wishes even after he knew that it was mostly King Charles's fault that she had done so. So that she could never live down the disgrace of what she had done.
It’s also worth noting that as a brother, Henry sucked
The way they grovel and blow smoke up Henry's substantial arse is just gross. I will never understand how or why people allowed themselves to be ruled by tyrants and egomaniacs, most of whom were their own grandpa-brother-cousins. Safe to say, I'd have ended up on Hefty Henry's chopping block for sure. The creep really was just insufferable.
Because tyrants had more power, ruled with fear and weren't afraid to flex aforementioned power, which ended up with people dying.
Don't forget, people tried to revolt against Henry back then and they all were executed.
@@areiaaphrodite True.
It is hard to understand in our modern times, however, had we been born in those times we would have been raised differently. One grovelled or one ended up in the tower with all money and land confiscated and hefty fines over ones head. Or, one lost ones head.
Dragging him over the cobbles would’ve been grand for sure but u would’ve fallen in like like everyone else.
a lot of it is just customary language. a bit like nowadays people say "I literally died" as an expression of great shock while they obviously did not
Just a guess here, but I think a few of the paintings is of Queen Mary, and not Mary Tudor who is the aunt of Queen Mary the 1st, Bloody Mary. The painting of Mary Tudor and Charles Brandon together appears as if Mary has blackish hair and darker features. The red head is Queen Mary, I believe. Enjoy your videos! Thank you!
The coloring is probably from the paint changing color over the years. The painting of Brandon and Mary is Mary Tudor, same nose, mouth, light delicate eyebrows. Even in these stylized portraits, her beauty comes through.
Some of her hair was clipped during one of her re-interments to a different grave. It was strawberry blonde.
I can imagine what kind of stepmother Mary was. Descent to say the least
Imagine you still had to your sibling like that?
The old king was only 52 when he died? I guess that was elderly for the time.
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how could they have possibly paid all that fine and provide for their family?
I dont think that was Henry's concern. He just wanted to punish them and be petty.
Charles probably had a huge amount of money in taxes being taken from the people of Suffolk. Mary probably had disposable money, as well from her father, etc. Totally rich
@@mmhthree they explained how the fine was paid in the video
Mary writes a lot of gobblygook and circular words.
We could’ve done without the whole letter….
Then don't listen.
Talk about what they saying in simple English don't have clue what you are saying
There was no need to read those letters you could have told the gist
No one has to listen. You can fast forward. Some of us are interested.
Why do you feel the entitlement to tell a creator to undermine her hard work so that it can be catered to your special preferences.
‘When knighthood was still in flower’ is one of my favourite silent films, it’s about her story. First I thought it was a completely fake scenario (which wouldn’t be surprising for the time it was shot in), but reading up on it I was really surprised.