I think that Margaret Tudor had the last laugh. As pointed out, it's one of her descendants sitting on the throne of the UK despite the circuitous route of history that put Her Majesty there. Oh yes, HER Majesty: take THAT Henry Tudor, you duplicitous old sod!
Yes, I also saw the "Spanish Queen" and the story of Margaret was riveting, albeit sad and forlorn. Margaret did seem to love her 1st husband, the King James, despite the age difference.
I think the petty reason Henry VIII didn’t like his sister Margaret is that she was old enough to boss him when he was a little boy. How dare she, a mere woman? He apparently loved his little sister, Mary, because he got to boss her. Such were the feelings that dictated his national politics and policy: childhood rivalries and squabbles. Henry VIII, the King who never grew up, mentally or emotionally.
He loved his sister Mary who could wrap Henry around her little finger. I think Henry and Margaret shared similar qualities so never got on. Also Henry hated the Scots and probably saw his sister as one.
Henry really was awful!! I could not agree more. He Was a nasty, conniving, cunning, loathsome, spiteful, terroristic, cruel, murderous, cantankerous, (I could go on all day) psychopathic Monster!! The more I learn about Henry, the more disdain I have for Him. Speaking of pricks.. perhaps, Henry was lacking in that department, and this contributed to His terrible moods :-)
@@TheOnlyElle. in other words he was a late medieval king, who was just one generation from a civil war, who in his life saw several revolts against his father, and faced several himself. Where his nobles, many his own cousins wanted him killed to replace him on the throne. Also the simple fact he had few if any children. Which makes his sisters important. There are thoughts he had a genetic condition that didn't mix right with his wives, Katherine was a distant cousin. Also, Margret had the same condition it would seem. As they both also gain a lot of weight and showed signs of Type 2 Diabetes. He also had several tendencies of a brat, being a younger son who was fawned upon. You can see Queen Elizabeth of York's parenting style in her three children that survived to adulthood. All three seemed headstrong and wanted what they wanted. I would also suggest never look with modern eyes, as standards change, and we don't know what society was truly like. What a Monster to us today might be a soft hand back then.
@@ThumperE23 Still don't have any sympathy for him. He treated those he claimed to love like garbage. He even killed those he loved in cold blood. But, some just over looked all of the murder he committed because he was king.
I first read about Margaret Tudor twenty two years ago. She and her daughter Margaret Douglas remain two of my favorite Tudor characters because they were so interesting and yet not as talked about as Henry VIII and his wives. I always felt Margaret was the female version of her brother Henry. His treatment of her was hypocritical but of course back in those days there was an accepted gender double-standard and Henry VIII was a man with an unbelievable ego. Moreover I think it was sad that he essentially abandoned his own sister.
I would love an episode on the murder of lord Darnley, similar to the ones you did on the murder of Amy Dudley and the princes in the tower. It's such a fascinating and complicated story!
Yes! A perfect example of truth being stranger than fiction! Darnley & his story are fascinating- & linked to Margaret Tudor, ofc, as his mother was the Margaret Douglas mentioned in this vid; Margaret Tudor's daughter with her 2nd husband Archibald Douglas.
For a moment, I thought this video was about Margaret Beaufort, the true matriarch of the Tudors. So glad Dr Kat has done a worthy video on Margaret Tudor Queen of Scots. As expected, it was very well done and very fair. As Dr Kat says, Margaret's turbulent life would make a good TV series or film all on it's own. Like her sister Mary, Margaret gets overshadowed by Henry and his wives who have been done to death in books and onscreen. Margaret deserves some spotlight. I feel nothing but sympathy for Margaret. She unfortunately has been remembered in negative terms throughout history and unfairly has gotten a bad rep. Her life was dotted with many roadblocks, failures and low points but Margaret shouldered on nonetheless. Not surprisingly, Henry was a less than supportive brother. He and his son Edward may have overlooked Margaret's line in the Succession but Margaret got the last laugh in the end. Her line saw a new house rule in England, the Stuarts, whose descendent Elizabeth II still sits on the throne today as England's longest reigning monarch. Henry must have turned in his grave with this fact and also with the fact that the current Queen is also of Boleyn descent.
If it's true that Mary Boleyn's two Carey children are Henry the 8ths then his descendants are on the throne now too! I wish they'd do a DNA test from his bones to find out! Also the princes in the tower to find out if those are the dead princes there! I read a historical fictional novel about Margaret Tudor years ago and loved it! Felt really bad for her unlike her granddaughter Mary Stuart who I don't feel bad for because she was plotting against Elizabeth I.
@@dineyashworth8578 Very unlikely that both of Mary Boleyns children could be fathered by Henry. One maybe but not both. We don't know the timeframe of when Mary was Henry's mistress and we don't know how long the relationship lasted so it doesn't add up to a strong possibility that Henry fathered any of the Carey children
Yesss! Finally. She is, after all the one whos descendant is sitting on the throne. I agree, her life is interesting enough for a TV series. There is enough material for a few seasons. Any producer watching?
Margaret is portrayed in The Spanish Princess, badly. Although the show is supposed to be a drama.. it's more like a comedy..a bad comedy at that haha!
@@Shane-Flanagan : surely starz or hbo , philipa gregory should do a series about the first stuart kings...robert III in 1473, he is almost unkown, as most think stuarts started in 1603.... also being that the scottish crown jewels, are not in the tower of london, but edinburgh castle...
I was thinking the same thing!! It has and always will subjugate women. Marriage is a governmental institution. I don’t need the government in my relationships.
Not that you aren't entitled to that opinion, but a 500 year old example is an appeal to antiquity and bad logic. Stick with citing present situations and examples when defending that stance.
I'm sorry that you never found anyone who was worthy of your love and respect. When that happens, marriage is one of the most wonderful institutions humanity has ever created.
@@TheInvestiGatorYT I did but that’s not how I found the link. Lots of people doing genealogy and proving it by documentation. I have genetic through-lines back to 1740. I started in 2006 on ancestry but branched out to several other services to try to verify as I went back. My mother started the tree over 40 years ago on paper. It’s nice to confirm what she had researched “the hard way”.
She's my 13x great-grandmother, through an illegitimate son of her son James V, Robert Stewart. Funnily enough, Robert's mother, Euphemia Elphinstone, was the daughter of one of Margaret's English ladies-in-waiting! What's your connection?... Like your Mum, mine started 35yrs ago on paper, & cross-checked & verified every record- that's how you know it's legit, whereas ancestry. com isn't necessarily a reliable source, as you'd know, cos it just contains info put up by anyone, not always with the documentation to back it up. Mum's found endless mistakes. How do you get _genetic_ through-lines to 1740? Genetic recombination would surely make it insanely difficult? It's that time period though: bridging the gap between "average" people, where the records generally drop out by the 1700s at best, & however far back you have to go til you run into the nobility, then royalty. Again funnily, my ancestor from this line who came to Australia married a convict!
It’s gratifying that Margaret Tudor’s heirs eventually took the throne of England, considering how badly she was treated by Henry VIII. There is a certain karma to it that is quite satisfying. It’s just a shame she didn’t live to see it.
Because Henry was so horrible after 20 years as the king. He just ran rampant through wives, changing religions, killing priests and destroying churches and monestaries, beheading wives....chopping off heads of women he was married to. He killed trusted advisors, he was insane.
Oh how I wish my mother was still here....she would have thoroughly enjoyed each and every youtube segment you have posted. My mother was a 'brazen passionate woman' who lived and breathed history, even returning to University (Stanford) in her later years to earn a degree in it. She rarely watched TV, considering it an erroneous 'distraction'. Always had her nose buried in a book, and unfortunately always underlining in red pen and making notes in the margin whether they were her books or not ! She was banned for 2 years from the Stanford library when they backtracked the common denominator in these 'occurrences'. Excellent job Dr Kat ! Love it. Oddly, makes me feel like my mom is still here and I am listening to her talk about these same things - thank you so much.
I think that despite Margaret's disenfranchisement during her own lifetime, the fact that her direct descendant Queen Elizabeth II sits on the throne of England gave her the ultimate victory after all! Good for her 👍🏿
@Gina Colvin, Yes well, after the death of the Queen, you won't be so happy when Charles sits on the throne. Now that the DoE is dead, Charles has announced that Edward will NOT be receiving his fathers former Dukedom. Charles is going down a bad road...
I'm just waiting for your channel to totally blow up with subscribers because it's the most detailed, and I think the most entertaining and fascinating Tudor history channel on RUclips. Cheers, girl! Awesome job once again 🙂
She does such an awesome job.. I honestly don't know how she remembers so much of all their personal histories and puts together such detailed videos, but it's the most concise Tudor history Channel I've ever found. Anyway, if you haven't checked out all her videos there are so many on the lesser known royals! Cheers
@@MrAdryan1603 yes! Her channel is so lovely. I find the videos are so well thought out that they manage to be thorough and entertaining. :) I'm a big fan.
What a marvelous video! It seems so little exploration is done into Mary and Margaret, ever eclipsed by Henry. I would be most thankful if you would consider one day making a video about Elizabeth Woodville. I find her fascinating! Also, Jacquetta of Luxembourg's role in the War of the Roses.
I think, it's because Margaret Tudor is stupid. She makes stupid decisions for herself and her children. I think people would get tired of watching her failed attempts. Her sister, Mary did much better. She got her man Brandon. Being a woman, in the Tudor time, was difficult. Only men ruled your life. So...it was important as a woman to keep your wits at all times.
@@Odanti Margaret did far more than Mary ever did. Margaret wasn't afraid to take risks regardless of the outcome and she shouldered on after each setback. Her life is incredibly interesting and certainly worthy of a film or TV series. Margaret wasn't stupid, some of her choices were questionable but there could be many reasons for them. She tried to survive in a man's world. Not easy. Mary was famous for who she was rather than what she did, which wasn't much.
@@kennashey No one is criticising or ignoring The Spanish Princess and the inclusion of Margaret Tudor. What we're saying is that Margaret doesn't get portrayed enough onscreen and who's life is so dramatic it could lead it's own series/film. Regardless of what I think about The Spanish Princess, I'm happy that they featured Margaret and her story in some capacity just the same way I like that they depict a young, intelligent, beautiful red haired Catherine of Aragon which makes a change from the usual depiction.
Ah a Tudor themed video again 😍 was just about to eat dinner and thought I‘d love to watch a video by Dr Kat while eating and here you are! Perfect timing! *Please make a video about good, historically accurate books about the Tudors (non-fiction). I see so many of them in your shelf, you probably have a few good recommendations for us. Or if someome here in the comments can suggest one or two books I‘d be grateful, too.*
I'm no Dr. Kat, but these books are well-researched & refer to original sources, & some have been recommended to me by historians: Young & Damned & Fair: The Life & Tragedy of Catherine Howard at the Court of Henry VIII, by Gareth Russell. Prince Arthur: The Tudor King Who Never Was, by Sean Cunningham. George Boleyn: Tudor Poet, Courtier & Diplomat, by Clare Cherry & Claire Ridgway (Claire Ridgway's also written books on Anne Boleyn & Tudor events day-by-day.) Elizabeth's Spy Master: Francis Walsingham & the Secret War that Saved England, by Robert Hutchinson. Then there are Antonia Fraser's classics, The 6 Wives of Henry VIII, & Mary Queen of Scots, but I've not read them in ages. You asked for non-fiction, & I'd _never_ suggest fiction as a substitute! However, I've read a novel about Letttice Knollys (Mary Boleyn's granddaughter, & "rival" to her cousin Elizabeth I), which turned out to be _amazingly_ historically accurate- when I learnt more about Elizabeth's court from good sources, I immediately recognised the people & their stories, & realised I'd gotten loads of accurate Tudor history for free! The writing's not as good as Philippa Gregory's, but we know how accurate she isn't- pure invention is more like it!- whereas The Queen's Enemy by Victoria Holt won't leave you confused about what did & didn't happen- it'll leave you unable to forget people like Robert Dudley, & what they did, & make it very easy to learn about Elizabeth's court when you do read non-fiction.
I really enjoyed this video. You gave me a new perspective to Margaret's life and some of the things she experienced. I think we need to have more womens' perspectives on history ... well, more of their perspective on everything really!
Thank you, I was waiting for Margaret Tudor's video. Life of a princess was no rose garden. About the will I wouldn't put it past Henri nor his counselors. Either way thank goodness for the dry stamp as it is quite possible in diminished circumstances to sign things from "trusted" people without knowing what is signed. a real last minute will. Thank you again.
I'm an American obsessed with European history right now after watching The Tudors and Versailles and wanting to know how accurate it was. You are by far my favorite RUclipsr for this subject! I've said this before but your intro "hi and you are very welcome" always makes me giggle because sadly I typically only hear that phrase sarcastically here. 😅 Thank your sharing your great knowledge!! ❤
I love both of them too 😀 if you enjoy that time period then you should also check out the tv series ‘reign’ it’s about Mary queen of Scots early life through to her execution. It’s Just a suggestion but you might enjoy that programme too 🙂 x
And I would also suggest ‘the white queen’, ‘the white princess’, and ‘the Spanish princess’. They cover the time periods from the war of the roses to Henry the eighth marriage to Catherine of Aragon. All 3 series are absolutely brilliant, I’m sure you would enjoy them. I live in the uk and I watch them on amazon prime. So if you have amazon prime I highly recommend these 3 series. Enjoy squirrel girl 😀 xx
@@jessrosefawkes2721 wow thank you so much for those suggestions!!! I actually just started reign!!! I do have Amazon so I will have to check those out! Thank you so so much! 🥰
@@adunreathcooper I've watches Versailles 3 times through, I started with the Tudors and honestly didn't really know anything about that time period to start. Why couldn't you stomach it? Genuine question, no hate or anything just curious why?
I wonder how many of the enormous number of infant deaths were caused by crib death in the past. Doctors today still have to urge mothers never to put their babies to sleep face down. Of course, now-treatable, or -preventable, early childhood diseases must have played a part, too. It’s just terrible how low the survival to adulthood rate was.
Putting babies face down is a 1970s thing. It was an attempt to reduce crib death. Infant mortality until the 20th century was between 20 to 40%. Most of it due to disease, much of it due to unsanitary conditions of the cities, un treated water and raw milk. Also the incredible poverty where the pregnant women got very bad food. Add to this the 20% of the British population in the 1800 had syphilis and it is a wonder any child survived
I love your channel! Poor Margret that was a really tough life. I was surprised that the Pope granted the annulment....and Henry, I really believe that his accident made him way worse of a person and had potentially brain damage. Since what we know of him before the jousting accident. Anyone that had a relationship with him was probably living in fear of him.
Loved it, thank you. Henry sure liked everything his way, didn’t he? A case of ‘do as I say rather than do as I do’. Good on Margaret. She won in the end. Her Majesty does her many times great grandmother proud 🦘🦘🦘🦘🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Dr Kat , I just love your videos! I’m an American who loves English history. I get more from your videos than I ever did in my long ago history classes. Thank you so much!
From my understanding, Henry VIII forgave Mary Tudor but did not forgive Margaret Tudor. There's so much in his life that shows him as a spoiled little boy who always wanted his way; and if anyone breathed without asking his permission, they are in trouble. I have a question: what was Scotland's relationship with England? They had, up until James Vi & I, their own monarch, but there are several times before that when England treats them like a younger sibling and simply tells them what to do. I have never understood it.
That's a very complex topic (still is even to this day). Basically centuries of fighting and dispute over land. English kings wanted more land and wanted Scotland to be under their control. At this point in time Scotland is recognised as a sovereign nation due to Robert the Bruce in 1314. I've always thought it was a matter of pride for some kings. How could they make campaigns to control France etc when they couldn't control the entire island they lived on?
who is the Lady/historian ? Finally a historical video that makes sense from a historian who tells the subject matter with pure content and still express the story as a humanity and soul. Bravo, well done. I'd like very much to hear more from her. Thank you hon.
Dr. Kat, found you most recently. Wanted to thank you for all the work you put into your channel. Your content and delivery are both incredibly awesome. You feed my love of history and I do so appreciate it.
Mary Boleyn = Catherine Carey = Lettice Knollys = Robert Devereux, Earl of Essex = Frances Devereux = Lady Jane Seymour = Charles Boyle, Earl of Burlington = Richard Boyle, Earl of Burlington = Charlotte Boyle, Baroness Clifford = Dorothy Cavendish = Charles Cavendish-Bentinck = Charles Cavendish-Bentinck = Cecilia-Nina Cavendish-Bentinck = Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, The Queen Mother = Queen Elizabeth II.
Also, George VI had a Tudor bloodline .... and so had the Queen Mother Mary Tudor = Frances Brandon, Duchess of Suffolk = Lady Catherine Grey = Edward Seymour, Lord Beauchamp = William Seymour, 2nd Duke of Sommerset = Lady Jane Seymour = Charles Boyle, 3rd Earl of Cork = Richard Boyle, 4th Earl of Cork = Charlotte Elizabeth Boyle, Baroness Clifford = Lady Dorothy Cavendish = Lord William Charles Augustus Cavendish-Bentick = Revd Charles William Frederick Cavendish-Bentick, = Nina Cecilia Cavendish-Bentick = HM Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother = Queen Elizabeth II. When Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon married Prince Albert (later George VI) it merged to Tudor bloodlines, as he was a direct descendant of Margaret Tudor, Queen of Scotland, older sister of Henry VIII (also the daughter of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York). The line from Margaret Tudor to Queen Elizabeth II goes; Margaret Tudor = James V of Scotland = Mary, Queen of Scots = James VI/I of England = Elizabeth of Bohemia = Sophia, Electress of Hanover = George I = George II = Frederick, Prince of Wales = George III = Prince Edward, Duke of Kent = Queen Victoria = Edward VII = George V = George VI = Elizabeth II.
Thank you so much for this educational video. I have always wondered how the royal family today relates back to this. And you made this very clear. Clearly Margaret had great troubles in her marriages end in her life. She also had times of great power. I think it was clearly difficult whether somebody was a man or a woman to employ power consistently. It’s also very clear that family has been most this year today did not exist at that time. I was always shocked that after Arthur died and Henry unceremoniously dumped his wife Catherine that her family didn’t take her back to Spain. It seems like back then nobody was really safe.
I never noticed before that Margaret's and Mary's 2nd marriages happened so close together; I wonder if Margaret's second marriage helped give Mary courage to make her own choice for her second marriage. Margaret must have felt so alone when her son was taken away & both her husband and brother betrayed her. I didn't think I could feel any more disgusted by Henry VIII, but I was wrong. I think you're right about Mary's actions in making nice with her brother - I think she realized that her power was limited, and she needed to look out for her son's future. Your suggestion about Henry's final will perhaps not being his will at all is pretty mind-boggling; it's the first time I've heard that idea.
@@jrojala Yeah... I'm hesitant to recommend another channel, but I do often want to recommend Claire (The Anne Boleyn Files)- Katherine Howard's a prime example. And Scotland History Tours for the Scottish side of Margaret & James IV's story. James didn't just "take the opportunity" to invade England: Henry forced him to choose between his treaties with England & France; & the latter obliged him to invade England if England invaded France. Henry knew this but invaded anyway- it was him disregarding his sister, as he continued to do, far more than James, who chose the Auld Alliance as it was 200yrs old. Mostly Henry's fault- what a surprise!
Love the video. Have spent some time reading and researching Margaret Tudor over the past few months. Henry VIII was a ball of contradictions and his alliances changed as the winds blew. It was clear (to me, anyway) that he clearly preferred his sister Mary and Margaret was "out of sight,, out of mind". Being that he was young when she went to Scotland he may not have felt the sibling connection to her that he did with Mary. However, in my studies I believe the Tudors, with little exception looked out for one another. James V as a male would have been Henry's heir for some time. I believe any changes in the will were done by "trusted" advisors to maintain their position and control with the young Edward. Seeing him to adulthood and securing the male line and their fortunes. Margaret, to my thinking, was very much a victim of the men who surrounded and ultimately controlled her.
How wonderfully you answered the many queries I have pondered on over the years. Thankyou. Entertaining historical fictions can be a right pain when artistic licence confuses me. Hummfff. However hey presto! Here you are. You’ve been an entertaining teacher for me today. Excellent history lesson. 🇦🇺👍🏼
In this era many English and Scottish girls and boys landed in the French court. How would this be wrangled, through the diplomats? Would the French queen put out an 'ad' she needed Ladies in Waiting, as an example? Also, in the case of Anne Bolyne would her knowledge of the French court be a reason to include her in the English court? I'm not all that familiar with the Scottish court in this era, so didn't use them as examples.
I believe Ann was in the courts because her Father was a wealthy merchant (it was good for trade). Her Uncle, was the wealthy and powerful Duke Norfolk. Perhaps it was was for clout for her father and uncle that she was sent (I believe she was in Denmark for a short time, too. I know it was a lowland country in that area). Her sister went as well for a time. I think they wanted her to make a good marriage. We don’t know exactly why she didn’t, but there are theories (such as being a lover to the King of France. Her sister he dubbed “The English Mare” most likely was his lover). Ann was brought home at roughly 18-20 (as her exact age is not pinpointed. At least it wasn’t the last time I read about her in The Six Wives of Henry VIII by Allison Weir). Perhaps it is because she wasn’t married that they brought her home so they could make a marriage? Most wealthy/noble women were, at that age, often married (and mothers by 20). There has most always been links between France and Scotland (probably due to their mutual hated of England).
@@MountainPearls Thank you for the reply, but it doesn't cover the subject I am asking about: How did the wealthy man know the royals needed their children? What was the process to get one's children into the courts to serve the royals?
I'm guessing it's just part of tradition. Royal women would always require new ladies as they were married off in turn. Women often died in childbirth so wealthy men could go through multiple wives. I watched a tv drama (obviously not the best source) but the father wrote to the court saying he had children he would like to present and offer into service.
Happy New Year’s Eve , Dr. Kat! I’d love to see more of Margaret Tudor ! Do you recommend any biographies for Margaret? 🎉Thank you for all your work! ❤across 🌊, 🥳🎉👵
Hi Dr. Kat, first time commenter -- just want to say how much I love your videos. I'm a huge history buff myself, especially Tudor England so I very much appreciate your depth, knowledge, love, and inclusivity.
Dear Kat, Thank you so much for your lovely videos. I find them too relaxing and also compelling to listen to in equal measure. I just wanted to let you know that I found a little mistake in this particular instalment about Margaret Tudor. I’m sure you’d have noticed it already. It’s on the 26.56 min, where you making a reference to Henry VIII’s Last Will & Testament of Dec 1546. You’re stating that it was issued instead in 1536. I’m sure it’s only a reading error. This of course can’t detract from the sterling work. Once again thank you and respect. AK
This was a sad story of life for a woman of her time; it's facisnating that many of her direct descendants, 13 generations later (in my case) have wound up on the West Coast region of America! Thanks for the in depth look at Henry's sister ~
As I watched it, I couldn’t help thinking of how so many people say Mary, Queen of Scots’ downfall was in large part due to her terrible taste in men. Unfortunately, it seems she got that trait from Margaret. It’s hard to know what she was thinking at the time-even royal women had pretty limited choices in life-but with the benefit of history it seems Margaret could’ve saved herself decades of heartache if she hadn’t gotten entangled with the men she chose after James IV died.
It sucked being a woman until the 20th C, when we got the right to vote, at least. I’ve been waiting and hoping for the ERA to pass here in the US since I was a little girl, I’m 61 now.
As with most things, that depends on the who, what, where, and when. People often view all of world history through the lens of a stereotyped version of medieval Europe, which tends to end up homogenizing millions of disparate cultures and eras. There are plenty of cultures where women were able to hold some level of status and even get an education, such as Ancient Sparta, the pre-colonial Iroquois nation, feudal Japan, and the Viking-era Norse.
@@jrojala I’m not saying that women were equal or equitable to men historically, what I’m saying is that painting all of history with a Eurocentric brush erases the women of these cultures. Iroquois women voted and participated in politics. Norse women could get divorced and there’s some evidence they participated warfare. Japanese women wrote poetry and kept though records of their lives. Spartan women were also educated and ran the government while the men were away.
Just tripped over your channel, and quickly became lost in learning. Through my father’s pedigree, I am related to Margaret Tudor via her son James’ illegitimate son, the First Earl of Moray. So close to royalty, but so far! I’m also related to the First Earl of Derby, but that’s another story.
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I think that Margaret Tudor had the last laugh. As pointed out, it's one of her descendants sitting on the throne of the UK despite the circuitous route of history that put Her Majesty there. Oh yes, HER Majesty: take THAT Henry Tudor, you duplicitous old sod!
Amen!
Think the term that comes to mind is "Up Yours Henry!"
The Queen is also a descendant of Mary Boleyn too
Really disrespectful. Get out of here.
@@Patrick3183 Who and what exactly is supposed to disrespectful?
I could listen to this lady reading any of those giant books behind her cover to cover and never get bored.
I believe that Georgie Henley did a great job playing Margaret in “The Spanish Queen.” She gave her the personality that I imagined that she had.
Yes, I also saw the "Spanish Queen" and the story of Margaret was riveting, albeit sad and forlorn. Margaret did seem to love her 1st husband, the King James, despite the age difference.
I agree. I wanted to know so much more about her after watching that.
I think the petty reason Henry VIII didn’t like his sister Margaret is that she was old enough to boss him when he was a little boy. How dare she, a mere woman? He apparently loved his little sister, Mary, because he got to boss her. Such were the feelings that dictated his national politics and policy: childhood rivalries and squabbles. Henry VIII, the King who never grew up, mentally or emotionally.
He loved his sister Mary who could wrap Henry around her little finger. I think Henry and Margaret shared similar qualities so never got on. Also Henry hated the Scots and probably saw his sister as one.
Henry VIIIs head injury didnt do his personality any favours.
Oddleah that had nothing to do with it. That occured well acter he threw his faithful wife to the wayside and abused his daughter
As my son said to his older sister, “You’re not the boss of me!”
@@margo3367 And my older granddaughter said to her younger brother. LOL
Blimey, I didn't think Henry VIII couldn't be anymore of a prick, and yet...
Henry really was awful!! I could not agree more. He Was a nasty, conniving, cunning, loathsome, spiteful, terroristic, cruel, murderous, cantankerous, (I could go on all day) psychopathic Monster!! The more I learn about Henry, the more disdain I have for Him. Speaking of pricks.. perhaps, Henry was lacking in that department, and this contributed to His terrible moods :-)
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Patrick3183 ding ding ding! You won the asshole of the day award.
@@TheOnlyElle. in other words he was a late medieval king, who was just one generation from a civil war, who in his life saw several revolts against his father, and faced several himself. Where his nobles, many his own cousins wanted him killed to replace him on the throne.
Also the simple fact he had few if any children. Which makes his sisters important. There are thoughts he had a genetic condition that didn't mix right with his wives, Katherine was a distant cousin. Also, Margret had the same condition it would seem. As they both also gain a lot of weight and showed signs of Type 2 Diabetes.
He also had several tendencies of a brat, being a younger son who was fawned upon.
You can see Queen Elizabeth of York's parenting style in her three children that survived to adulthood. All three seemed headstrong and wanted what they wanted.
I would also suggest never look with modern eyes, as standards change, and we don't know what society was truly like. What a Monster to us today might be a soft hand back then.
@@ThumperE23 Still don't have any sympathy for him. He treated those he claimed to love like garbage. He even killed those he loved in cold blood. But, some just over looked all of the murder he committed because he was king.
I first read about Margaret Tudor twenty two years ago. She and her daughter Margaret Douglas remain two of my favorite Tudor characters because they were so interesting and yet not as talked about as Henry VIII and his wives. I always felt Margaret was the female version of her brother Henry. His treatment of her was hypocritical but of course back in those days there was an accepted gender double-standard and Henry VIII was a man with an unbelievable ego. Moreover I think it was sad that he essentially abandoned his own sister.
I agree that Henry and Margaret were similar in personality, which made them butt heads.
I would love an episode on the murder of lord Darnley, similar to the ones you did on the murder of Amy Dudley and the princes in the tower. It's such a fascinating and complicated story!
Yes! A perfect example of truth being stranger than fiction! Darnley & his story are fascinating- & linked to Margaret Tudor, ofc, as his mother was the Margaret Douglas mentioned in this vid; Margaret Tudor's daughter with her 2nd husband Archibald Douglas.
For a moment, I thought this video was about Margaret Beaufort, the true matriarch of the Tudors.
So glad Dr Kat has done a worthy video on Margaret Tudor Queen of Scots. As expected, it was very well done and very fair.
As Dr Kat says, Margaret's turbulent life would make a good TV series or film all on it's own. Like her sister Mary, Margaret gets overshadowed by Henry and his wives who have been done to death in books and onscreen. Margaret deserves some spotlight. I feel nothing but sympathy for Margaret. She unfortunately has been remembered in negative terms throughout history and unfairly has gotten a bad rep. Her life was dotted with many roadblocks, failures and low points but Margaret shouldered on nonetheless. Not surprisingly, Henry was a less than supportive brother. He and his son Edward may have overlooked Margaret's line in the Succession but Margaret got the last laugh in the end. Her line saw a new house rule in England, the Stuarts, whose descendent Elizabeth II still sits on the throne today as England's longest reigning monarch. Henry must have turned in his grave with this fact and also with the fact that the current Queen is also of Boleyn descent.
If it's true that Mary Boleyn's two Carey children are Henry the 8ths then his descendants are on the throne now too! I wish they'd do a DNA test from his bones to find out! Also the princes in the tower to find out if those are the dead princes there! I read a historical fictional novel about Margaret Tudor years ago and loved it! Felt really bad for her unlike her granddaughter Mary Stuart who I don't feel bad for because she was plotting against Elizabeth I.
@@dineyashworth8578 Well the current Royal family are related to Henry through his sister Margaret
@@dineyashworth8578 Very unlikely that both of Mary Boleyns children could be fathered by Henry. One maybe but not both.
We don't know the timeframe of when Mary was Henry's mistress and we don't know how long the relationship lasted so it doesn't add up to a strong possibility that Henry fathered any of the Carey children
I love that you show so much art that I haven’t seen before, even though I’ve been reading Tudor history for 50 years. You’re amazing🙂
Yesss! Finally. She is, after all the one whos descendant is sitting on the throne. I agree, her life is interesting enough for a TV series. There is enough material for a few seasons. Any producer watching?
Margaret is portrayed in The Spanish Princess, badly. Although the show is supposed to be a drama.. it's more like a comedy..a bad comedy at that haha!
Margaret always gets overshadowed by Henry and his wives who have been done to death in books and onscreen adaptions
@@Shane-Flanagan : surely starz or hbo , philipa gregory should do a series about the first stuart kings...robert III in 1473,
he is almost unkown, as most think stuarts started in 1603....
also being that the scottish crown jewels, are not in the tower of london, but edinburgh castle...
@@jardon8636 Yes they started rule in England in 1603 but some forget their prior Historical rule in Scotland
That would be lovely!
Thank you for bringing us Margaret's story. It is reinforcing my current position on marriage - that I never do it again ;-)
Kat The Scribe Right there with you! Never again! 😆❤️🌹
I was thinking the same thing!! It has and always will subjugate women. Marriage is a governmental institution. I don’t need the government in my relationships.
Not that you aren't entitled to that opinion, but a 500 year old example is an appeal to antiquity and bad logic. Stick with citing present situations and examples when defending that stance.
I'm sorry that you never found anyone who was worthy of your love and respect. When that happens, marriage is one of the most wonderful institutions humanity has ever created.
Margaret Tudor was my 14x great grandmother! Thank you for posting this!
Wow! That's so cool :) I love history. Did you do a DNA test? I don't know much about my background :(
@@TheInvestiGatorYT I did but that’s not how I found the link. Lots of people doing genealogy and proving it by documentation. I have genetic through-lines back to 1740.
I started in 2006 on ancestry but branched out to several other services to try to verify as I went back. My mother started the tree over 40 years ago on paper. It’s nice to confirm what she had researched “the hard way”.
@@GoneWithTheGail That's amazing and so fascinating to know the family that came before you :)
She's my 13x great-grandmother, through an illegitimate son of her son James V, Robert Stewart. Funnily enough, Robert's mother, Euphemia Elphinstone, was the daughter of one of Margaret's English ladies-in-waiting! What's your connection?... Like your Mum, mine started 35yrs ago on paper, & cross-checked & verified every record- that's how you know it's legit, whereas ancestry. com isn't necessarily a reliable source, as you'd know, cos it just contains info put up by anyone, not always with the documentation to back it up. Mum's found endless mistakes.
How do you get _genetic_ through-lines to 1740? Genetic recombination would surely make it insanely difficult? It's that time period though: bridging the gap between "average" people, where the records generally drop out by the 1700s at best, & however far back you have to go til you run into the nobility, then royalty. Again funnily, my ancestor from this line who came to Australia married a convict!
Greetings from New Orleans, Cousin!! Margaret is my 12xGG! Your RUclips name indicates that you must be from the U.S. South as well.
It’s gratifying that Margaret Tudor’s heirs eventually took the throne of England, considering how badly she was treated by Henry VIII. There is a certain karma to it that is quite satisfying. It’s just a shame she didn’t live to see it.
Maybe Margaret should have helped Angus have an accident to get control of her life back. But I suppose she wasn't heartless like her brother.
I've arrived earlier than Henry III's excuses!
pardon
I don’t know why it is so satisfying to hear that Henry VIII’s wishes for what would happen after he died ultimately came to nothing 😄
I'm glad though that both Henry's daughters succeeded to the throne especially when he thought so little of them
Bit like his Sarcophagus: so glad Nelson came to use it...
Because Henry was so horrible after 20 years as the king. He just ran rampant through wives, changing religions, killing priests and destroying churches and monestaries, beheading wives....chopping off heads of women he was married to. He killed trusted advisors, he was insane.
@@iamauntmeem yes, that was my point ;)
Because he was absolutely monstrous?
Oh how I wish my mother was still here....she would have thoroughly enjoyed each and every youtube segment you have posted. My mother was a 'brazen passionate woman' who lived and breathed history, even returning to University (Stanford) in her later years to earn a degree in it. She rarely watched TV, considering it an erroneous 'distraction'. Always had her nose buried in a book, and unfortunately always underlining in red pen and making notes in the margin whether they were her books or not ! She was banned for 2 years from the Stanford library when they backtracked the common denominator in these 'occurrences'.
Excellent job Dr Kat ! Love it.
Oddly, makes me feel like my mom is still here and I am listening to her talk about these same things - thank you so much.
LOL When Dr. Kat says, "Well, there you go" about Henry's disloyalty.... Her comedic timing: I'm here for it.
I think that despite Margaret's disenfranchisement during her own lifetime, the fact that her direct descendant Queen Elizabeth II sits on the throne of England gave her the ultimate victory after all! Good for her 👍🏿
Margaret Tudor is my spirit animal. It's so hard to find info on her.
Absolutely brilliant as always, Dr Kat
When will Margaret Tudor’s bloodline run out of legitimate heirs? 👗👠👑💍🇬🇧
I never tire of Tudor history, and Tudor history never runs out of interesting characters and plots. Dr. Kat, you do such a wonderful job. Thank you!!
as usual you are a highlight of my week you are smart and i love your voice
That poor woman, all those lost babies and all those duplicitous men. At least we have our wonderful queen to thank her for. Great film.
She had a very hard life, married at 13 couldn't have been a good thing.
@Gina Colvin, Yes well, after the death of the Queen, you won't be so happy when Charles sits on the throne. Now that the DoE is dead, Charles has announced that Edward will NOT be receiving his fathers former Dukedom. Charles is going down a bad road...
@@meeeka Gossip! Who was granted the DofE title on his birthday, was it?
I'm just waiting for your channel to totally blow up with subscribers because it's the most detailed, and I think the most entertaining and fascinating Tudor history channel on RUclips. Cheers, girl! Awesome job once again 🙂
I have never been this early, and am so interested to learn about a lesser discussed Tudor!
She does such an awesome job.. I honestly don't know how she remembers so much of all their personal histories and puts together such detailed videos, but it's the most concise Tudor history Channel I've ever found. Anyway, if you haven't checked out all her videos there are so many on the lesser known royals! Cheers
@@MrAdryan1603 yes! Her channel is so lovely. I find the videos are so well thought out that they manage to be thorough and entertaining. :) I'm a big fan.
@@RelientK16 Right on, me too. You seem really nice. Cheers, have a great day!
@@MrAdryan1603 cheers, you too!
What a marvelous video! It seems so little exploration is done into Mary and Margaret, ever eclipsed by Henry. I would be most thankful if you would consider one day making a video about Elizabeth Woodville. I find her fascinating! Also, Jacquetta of Luxembourg's role in the War of the Roses.
I'd love to hear more about Jacquetta especially.
Wow, I never heard about any of this before! What a fascinating woman, it’s a shame she’s rarely ever featured in TV or movies
She is just as interesting as Henry and his wives who have been done to death in onscreen depictions. Margaret deserves some spotlight
I think, it's because Margaret Tudor is stupid. She makes stupid decisions for herself and her children. I think people would get tired of watching her failed attempts.
Her sister, Mary did much better. She got her man Brandon.
Being a woman, in the Tudor time, was difficult. Only men ruled your life. So...it was important as a woman to keep your wits at all times.
@@Odanti Margaret did far more than Mary ever did. Margaret wasn't afraid to take risks regardless of the outcome and she shouldered on after each setback. Her life is incredibly interesting and certainly worthy of a film or TV series. Margaret wasn't stupid, some of her choices were questionable but there could be many reasons for them. She tried to survive in a man's world. Not easy. Mary was famous for who she was rather than what she did, which wasn't much.
Even though they do get some things wrong, The Spanish Princess does include a story arc about Margret Tudor.
@@kennashey No one is criticising or ignoring The Spanish Princess and the inclusion of Margaret Tudor. What we're saying is that Margaret doesn't get portrayed enough onscreen and who's life is so dramatic it could lead it's own series/film. Regardless of what I think about The Spanish Princess, I'm happy that they featured Margaret and her story in some capacity just the same way I like that they depict a young, intelligent, beautiful red haired Catherine of Aragon which makes a change from the usual depiction.
Ah a Tudor themed video again 😍 was just about to eat dinner and thought I‘d love to watch a video by Dr Kat while eating and here you are! Perfect timing!
*Please make a video about good, historically accurate books about the Tudors (non-fiction). I see so many of them in your shelf, you probably have a few good recommendations for us. Or if someome here in the comments can suggest one or two books I‘d be grateful, too.*
I second this request! I too, keep looking at the books on Dr. Kat's shelves :-)
I’m glad I’m not the only weirdo trying to read her book titles. 🤣
I'm no Dr. Kat, but these books are well-researched & refer to original sources, & some have been recommended to me by historians:
Young & Damned & Fair: The Life & Tragedy of Catherine Howard at the Court of Henry VIII, by Gareth Russell.
Prince Arthur: The Tudor King Who Never Was, by Sean Cunningham.
George Boleyn: Tudor Poet, Courtier & Diplomat, by Clare Cherry & Claire Ridgway (Claire Ridgway's also written books on Anne Boleyn & Tudor events day-by-day.)
Elizabeth's Spy Master: Francis Walsingham & the Secret War that Saved England, by Robert Hutchinson.
Then there are Antonia Fraser's classics, The 6 Wives of Henry VIII, & Mary Queen of Scots, but I've not read them in ages.
You asked for non-fiction, & I'd _never_ suggest fiction as a substitute! However, I've read a novel about Letttice Knollys (Mary Boleyn's granddaughter, & "rival" to her cousin Elizabeth I), which turned out to be _amazingly_ historically accurate- when I learnt more about Elizabeth's court from good sources, I immediately recognised the people & their stories, & realised I'd gotten loads of accurate Tudor history for free! The writing's not as good as Philippa Gregory's, but we know how accurate she isn't- pure invention is more like it!- whereas The Queen's Enemy by Victoria Holt won't leave you confused about what did & didn't happen- it'll leave you unable to forget people like Robert Dudley, & what they did, & make it very easy to learn about Elizabeth's court when you do read non-fiction.
@@beth7935 Thank you so much, that's really useful! 🌹
Thank you! Thank you very much!!! ❤💙
I was waiting for your video today and I was very pleased that it was about Margaret Tudor! 😍
I really enjoyed this video. You gave me a new perspective to Margaret's life and some of the things she experienced. I think we need to have more womens' perspectives on history ... well, more of their perspective on everything really!
King Henry caused so many problems for those around him.
That was the one thing Henry excelled at.. creating problems for others!
I will always hum the theme tune from Dr Kat
Never tire of hearing it 💕
It's such a fun little ditty ;-)
It’s fun isn’t it. Just a happy, fun tune 🦘🦘🦘🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Every time I hear it, I have to clap in time. Or else.
Thank you, I was waiting for Margaret Tudor's video. Life of a princess was no rose garden. About the will I wouldn't put it past Henri nor his counselors. Either way thank goodness for the dry stamp as it is quite possible in diminished circumstances to sign things from "trusted" people without knowing what is signed. a real last minute will. Thank you again.
Thank you for this. Very interesting and informative 🙂 I really enjoyed the portrayal of her in The Spanish Princess by Georgie Henley.
I'm an American obsessed with European history right now after watching The Tudors and Versailles and wanting to know how accurate it was. You are by far my favorite RUclipsr for this subject!
I've said this before but your intro "hi and you are very welcome" always makes me giggle because sadly I typically only hear that phrase sarcastically here. 😅
Thank your sharing your great knowledge!! ❤
I really enjoyed Versailles, but couldn't stomach The Tudors.
I love both of them too 😀 if you enjoy that time period then you should also check out the tv series ‘reign’ it’s about Mary queen of Scots early life through to her execution. It’s Just a suggestion but you might enjoy that programme too 🙂 x
And I would also suggest ‘the white queen’, ‘the white princess’, and ‘the Spanish princess’. They cover the time periods from the war of the roses to Henry the eighth marriage to Catherine of Aragon. All 3 series are absolutely brilliant, I’m sure you would enjoy them. I live in the uk and I watch them on amazon prime. So if you have amazon prime I highly recommend these 3 series. Enjoy squirrel girl 😀 xx
@@jessrosefawkes2721 wow thank you so much for those suggestions!!! I actually just started reign!!! I do have Amazon so I will have to check those out!
Thank you so so much! 🥰
@@adunreathcooper I've watches Versailles 3 times through, I started with the Tudors and honestly didn't really know anything about that time period to start.
Why couldn't you stomach it? Genuine question, no hate or anything just curious why?
I wonder how many of the enormous number of infant deaths were caused by crib death in the past. Doctors today still have to urge mothers never to put their babies to sleep face down. Of course, now-treatable, or -preventable, early childhood diseases must have played a part, too. It’s just terrible how low the survival to adulthood rate was.
Putting babies face down is a 1970s thing. It was an attempt to reduce crib death. Infant mortality until the 20th century was between 20 to 40%. Most of it due to disease, much of it due to unsanitary conditions of the cities, un treated water and raw milk. Also the incredible poverty where the pregnant women got very bad food. Add to this the 20% of the British population in the 1800 had syphilis and it is a wonder any child survived
Thanks Dr Kat, I really enjoy your history lessons.
I love your channel! Poor Margret that was a really tough life. I was surprised that the Pope granted the annulment....and Henry, I really believe that his accident made him way worse of a person and had potentially brain damage. Since what we know of him before the jousting accident. Anyone that had a relationship with him was probably living in fear of him.
I'd love a take on Perkin Warbeck. So many accepted him as the Duke of York it makes you wonder why?
Poor Margaret Tudor! She suffered because of the men around her.
So many low points in her life. Very sad. Margaret was strong though, she carried on after each setback and never gave up
It was the life of most women at the time and through history ….even today
I know that being "cool" is not something about which don't you necessarily care, but you are cool☺
Gosh I love this channel! Have been binge watching and can’t get enough😀😀😀
Loved it, thank you. Henry sure liked everything his way, didn’t he? A case of ‘do as I say rather than do as I do’. Good on Margaret. She won in the end. Her Majesty does her many times great grandmother proud 🦘🦘🦘🦘🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Dr Kat , I just love your videos! I’m an American who loves English history. I get more from your videos than I ever did in my long ago history classes. Thank you so much!
From my understanding, Henry VIII forgave Mary Tudor but did not forgive Margaret Tudor. There's so much in his life that shows him as a spoiled little boy who always wanted his way; and if anyone breathed without asking his permission, they are in trouble.
I have a question: what was Scotland's relationship with England? They had, up until James Vi & I, their own monarch, but there are several times before that when England treats them like a younger sibling and simply tells them what to do. I have never understood it.
That's a very complex topic (still is even to this day). Basically centuries of fighting and dispute over land. English kings wanted more land and wanted Scotland to be under their control. At this point in time Scotland is recognised as a sovereign nation due to Robert the Bruce in 1314.
I've always thought it was a matter of pride for some kings. How could they make campaigns to control France etc when they couldn't control the entire island they lived on?
Thank you o much this in-depth history of Queen Margaret’s life and reign. It answered many questions I had had about her life.
Yay! So excited!
Loving this Tudor mini series and all the deep dives !
who is the Lady/historian ? Finally a historical video that makes sense from a historian who tells the subject matter with pure content and still express the story as a humanity and soul. Bravo, well done. I'd like very much to hear more from her. Thank you hon.
Margaret got the last laugh!
Excellent! I knew very little about Margaret's life prior to watching.
Thank you for your videos! I always look forward to them.
Dr Kat, i could listen to your lovely voice/accent and intelligent conversation all day. 😊
I love you did this one on Margaret, she is my favorite Tudor.
Three well done videos gets a script. Great topics and info and I really enjoy the editing, creates a great pace
I like to picture Margaret in the afterlife, laughing at her ultimate victory over her little brother.
cant wait to watch :) i hope you're doing well today Dr.Kat
Dr. Kat, found you most recently. Wanted to thank you for all the work you put into your channel. Your content and delivery are both incredibly awesome. You feed my love of history and I do so appreciate it.
Wow....that was eye-opening.
She was a very strong woman to endure all she did.
I always wonder how queen Elizabeth is a descendant of Mary boleyn and Margaret Tudor.
For a moment I thought you were talking about Elizabeth I and got really confused lol.
Mary Boleyn = Catherine Carey = Lettice Knollys = Robert Devereux, Earl of Essex = Frances Devereux = Lady Jane Seymour = Charles Boyle, Earl of Burlington = Richard Boyle, Earl of Burlington = Charlotte Boyle, Baroness Clifford = Dorothy Cavendish = Charles Cavendish-Bentinck = Charles Cavendish-Bentinck = Cecilia-Nina Cavendish-Bentinck = Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, The Queen Mother = Queen Elizabeth II.
Also, George VI had a Tudor bloodline .... and so had the Queen Mother
Mary Tudor = Frances Brandon, Duchess of Suffolk = Lady Catherine Grey = Edward Seymour, Lord Beauchamp = William Seymour, 2nd Duke of Sommerset = Lady Jane Seymour = Charles Boyle, 3rd Earl of Cork = Richard Boyle, 4th Earl of Cork = Charlotte Elizabeth Boyle, Baroness Clifford = Lady Dorothy Cavendish = Lord William Charles Augustus Cavendish-Bentick = Revd Charles William Frederick Cavendish-Bentick, = Nina Cecilia Cavendish-Bentick = HM Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother = Queen Elizabeth II.
When Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon married Prince Albert (later George VI) it merged to Tudor bloodlines, as he was a direct descendant of Margaret Tudor, Queen of Scotland, older sister of Henry VIII (also the daughter of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York). The line from Margaret Tudor to Queen Elizabeth II goes;
Margaret Tudor = James V of Scotland = Mary, Queen of Scots = James VI/I of England = Elizabeth of Bohemia = Sophia, Electress of Hanover = George I = George II = Frederick, Prince of Wales = George III = Prince Edward, Duke of Kent = Queen Victoria = Edward VII = George V = George VI = Elizabeth II.
Princess Diana and Kate Middleton are also descendents of Mary Boleyn
Thank you, Dr. KAT. Love your video discussions and find these topics interesting. Thanks for sharing..😊
I recently read a book all about the life of Margaret Tudor and I thought the same as you Kat, what a wonderful tv series it would make!
This video is the best birthday present ever.
Happy birthday!
Happy birthday!
Happy birthday 🎈
@@kwells179 thank you!
Happy Birthday !! 🌻
what a heartbreaking life margaret tudor lived. thankyou so much for doing this channel i love learning history especially the tudor period.
Thank you Dr. Kat it's always a pleasure! 🌺
❤Thanks Dr Kat
Great video
Dr kat all your videos are absolutely amazing and your facts are as clear and are fantastic keep making great videos xxx
Thank you! I've always been curious about Margaret and Mary, because their descendents were so much a part of later conflicts.
You are a wonderful teacher! So glad I found your channel 😊
Thank you so much for this educational video. I have always wondered how the royal family today relates back to this. And you made this very clear. Clearly Margaret had great troubles in her marriages end in her life. She also had times of great power. I think it was clearly difficult whether somebody was a man or a woman to employ power consistently. It’s also very clear that family has been most this year today did not exist at that time. I was always shocked that after Arthur died and Henry unceremoniously dumped his wife Catherine that her family didn’t take her back to Spain. It seems like back then nobody was really safe.
You do an amazing job at your work on each presentation. So eloquent. So we'll researched . Always enjoyed
Thank you so much, you are very kind 🥰
I could not stop watching until the end. Very well done. Thanks for the pics too.
I love 😍 how you are telling us about this ❤❤
Listening to this, i am glad i live a small, quiet life.
I love your videos so much 💗
I never noticed before that Margaret's and Mary's 2nd marriages happened so close together; I wonder if Margaret's second marriage helped give Mary courage to make her own choice for her second marriage. Margaret must have felt so alone when her son was taken away & both her husband and brother betrayed her. I didn't think I could feel any more disgusted by Henry VIII, but I was wrong. I think you're right about Mary's actions in making nice with her brother - I think she realized that her power was limited, and she needed to look out for her son's future. Your suggestion about Henry's final will perhaps not being his will at all is pretty mind-boggling; it's the first time I've heard that idea.
You are the best. I am a crack addict for Tudor history especially and you are the best plug ever for it. ❤️
Lol wait until you see Claire Ridgeway
@@jrojala Love Claire 💕😍
@@jrojala Yeah... I'm hesitant to recommend another channel, but I do often want to recommend Claire (The Anne Boleyn Files)- Katherine Howard's a prime example. And Scotland History Tours for the Scottish side of Margaret & James IV's story. James didn't just "take the opportunity" to invade England: Henry forced him to choose between his treaties with England & France; & the latter obliged him to invade England if England invaded France. Henry knew this but invaded anyway- it was him disregarding his sister, as he continued to do, far more than James, who chose the Auld Alliance as it was 200yrs old. Mostly Henry's fault- what a surprise!
Great show.👍👍👍
Love the video. Have spent some time reading and researching Margaret Tudor over the past few months. Henry VIII was a ball of contradictions and his alliances changed as the winds blew. It was clear (to me, anyway) that he clearly preferred his sister Mary and Margaret was "out of sight,, out of mind". Being that he was young when she went to Scotland he may not have felt the sibling connection to her that he did with Mary. However, in my studies I believe the Tudors, with little exception looked out for one another. James V as a male would have been Henry's heir for some time. I believe any changes in the will were done by "trusted" advisors to maintain their position and control with the young Edward. Seeing him to adulthood and securing the male line and their fortunes. Margaret, to my thinking, was very much a victim of the men who surrounded and ultimately controlled her.
How wonderfully you answered the many queries I have pondered on over the years. Thankyou.
Entertaining historical fictions can be a right pain when artistic licence confuses me. Hummfff.
However hey presto! Here you are. You’ve been an entertaining teacher for me today. Excellent history lesson.
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Geez! Life was seriously rough for Tudor women!!!
Excellent, as per normal.
In this era many English and Scottish girls and boys landed in the French court. How would this be wrangled, through the diplomats? Would the French queen put out an 'ad' she needed Ladies in Waiting, as an example? Also, in the case of Anne Bolyne would her knowledge of the French court be a reason to include her in the English court? I'm not all that familiar with the Scottish court in this era, so didn't use them as examples.
I believe Ann was in the courts because her Father was a wealthy merchant (it was good for trade). Her Uncle, was the wealthy and powerful Duke Norfolk. Perhaps it was was for clout for her father and uncle that she was sent (I believe she was in Denmark for a short time, too. I know it was a lowland country in that area). Her sister went as well for a time. I think they wanted her to make a good marriage. We don’t know exactly why she didn’t, but there are theories (such as being a lover to the King of France. Her sister he dubbed “The English Mare” most likely was his lover). Ann was brought home at roughly 18-20 (as her exact age is not pinpointed. At least it wasn’t the last time I read about her in The Six Wives of Henry VIII by Allison Weir). Perhaps it is because she wasn’t married that they brought her home so they could make a marriage? Most wealthy/noble women were, at that age, often married (and mothers by 20). There has most always been links between France and Scotland (probably due to their mutual hated of England).
@@MountainPearls Thank you for the reply, but it doesn't cover the subject I am asking about: How did the wealthy man know the royals needed their children? What was the process to get one's children into the courts to serve the royals?
I'm guessing it's just part of tradition. Royal women would always require new ladies as they were married off in turn. Women often died in childbirth so wealthy men could go through multiple wives.
I watched a tv drama (obviously not the best source) but the father wrote to the court saying he had children he would like to present and offer into service.
Happy New Year’s Eve , Dr. Kat! I’d love to see more of Margaret Tudor ! Do you recommend any biographies for Margaret? 🎉Thank you for all your work! ❤across 🌊, 🥳🎉👵
Thank you , for another entertaining and fascinating video. The insight and detail is wonderful.
I absolutely love your book collection
Hi Dr. Kat, first time commenter -- just want to say how much I love your videos. I'm a huge history buff myself, especially Tudor England so I very much appreciate your depth, knowledge, love, and inclusivity.
Incredible, as always. After an amazingly horrible week, I was able to turn away for a while.
Another amazing video 😁 I love your content so much, I learn more from you than any other channel. Thank you ❤️
Why was Edward Seymour, Lord Beauchamp (Katherine Grey son) never seen as the heir to elizabeth?
As the marriage was eventually annulled, the children were rendered illegitimate and so excluded from any claim to the throne.
Dear Kat,
Thank you so much for your lovely videos. I find them too relaxing and also compelling to listen to in equal measure. I just wanted to let you know that I found a little mistake in this particular instalment about Margaret Tudor. I’m sure you’d have noticed it already. It’s on the 26.56 min, where you making a reference to Henry VIII’s Last Will & Testament of Dec 1546. You’re stating that it was issued instead in 1536. I’m sure it’s only a reading error. This of course can’t detract from the sterling work.
Once again thank you and respect.
AK
Love your channel!
Thanks for the video, I never knew the Queen was directly related to the Tudors…enjoying all your videos😊
Another great one. Thank you, Ruth Goldsmith
This was a sad story of life for a woman of her time; it's facisnating that many of her direct descendants, 13 generations later (in my case) have wound up on the West Coast region of America! Thanks for the in depth look at Henry's sister ~
As I watched it, I couldn’t help thinking of how so many people say Mary, Queen of Scots’ downfall was in large part due to her terrible taste in men. Unfortunately, it seems she got that trait from Margaret.
It’s hard to know what she was thinking at the time-even royal women had pretty limited choices in life-but with the benefit of history it seems Margaret could’ve saved herself decades of heartache if she hadn’t gotten entangled with the men she chose after James IV died.
It sucked being a woman until the 20th C, when we got the right to vote, at least. I’ve been waiting and hoping for the ERA to pass here in the US since I was a little girl, I’m 61 now.
As with most things, that depends on the who, what, where, and when. People often view all of world history through the lens of a stereotyped version of medieval Europe, which tends to end up homogenizing millions of disparate cultures and eras. There are plenty of cultures where women were able to hold some level of status and even get an education, such as Ancient Sparta, the pre-colonial Iroquois nation, feudal Japan, and the Viking-era Norse.
I don’t think that handful of outliers is sufficient proof of anything resembling equality or even equity through all of history.
@@jrojala I’m not saying that women were equal or equitable to men historically, what I’m saying is that painting all of history with a Eurocentric brush erases the women of these cultures. Iroquois women voted and participated in politics. Norse women could get divorced and there’s some evidence they participated warfare. Japanese women wrote poetry and kept though records of their lives. Spartan women were also educated and ran the government while the men were away.
You can thank a woman for the no -passage of that amendment: Phyllis Schafly, the woman who organised the
"Moral Majority."
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Just tripped over your channel, and quickly became lost in learning. Through my father’s pedigree, I am related to Margaret Tudor via her son James’ illegitimate son, the First Earl of Moray. So close to royalty, but so far! I’m also related to the First Earl of Derby, but that’s another story.
Excellent, as always. Thank you.