WSVN NBC Miami 1988 Affiliation Switch

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  • Опубликовано: 20 окт 2007
  • Consumer Reporter Carmel Cafiero explains the upcoming Miami network affiliation switch.
    Courtesy: Louis Wolfson II Florida Moving Image Archive

Комментарии • 124

  • @themightyjaybird
    @themightyjaybird 12 лет назад +19

    Fast-forward to 2012. WSVN is one of the strongest television stations in South Florida, with a very news-intensive schedule. They run 5 hours of morning news, an hour of news at noon, three more hours starting at 4 PM, and an hour and a half starting at 10 pm. Channel 7 is one of the biggest Fox affiliates in the country. After the digital switch, WSVN moved their digital signal from channel 8 back to 7. They now share a new digital transmitter site with WPLG Channel 10.

    • @altfactor
      @altfactor 6 лет назад +4

      WSVN is expected to lose it's Fox affiliation sometime between this fall (2018) and early 2019, since Fox has just bought WSFL in that city.

    • @marcus813
      @marcus813 5 лет назад +2

      @@altfactor It looks as if E.W. Scripps is gonna get WSFL instead, but the recently launched Fox Corporation (21st Century Fox's successor) could still end up cutting a deal with E.W. Scripps to put FOX on that station anyway. Stay tuned!

    • @theamazingDrBob
      @theamazingDrBob 3 года назад +3

      That Cincinnati based company ended up buying WSFL. Channel 7 remains affiliated with the Fox network.

  • @e.f.t.v.8361
    @e.f.t.v.8361 16 лет назад +10

    WSVN did become a FOX station in 1989, but FOX only broadcast on the weekends back then. The rest of the week, the station was an independent.
    Most FOX stations back then were small and mostly UHF channels.

  • @NewmanNewsman
    @NewmanNewsman  12 лет назад +17

    Yes. WTVJ moved its tower during the switch to digital broadcasting. I believe it's now at the Dade-Broward line with everyone else.

  • @feelunknown1770
    @feelunknown1770 3 года назад +6

    2:06 - But in 1995, CBS South Florida returned to Channel 4 under the "WFOR" call sign, while WTVJ NBC South Florida moved to Channel 6.

    • @lisaweathers6783
      @lisaweathers6783 3 года назад

      true plus you also heard at the analog signal it was fresh

  • @LogoAttitude
    @LogoAttitude 15 лет назад +10

    WSVN became a model FOX station, by not focusing on general entertainment, but a more news-intensive operation. It became more hard-hitting too, also influencing the news operations of other FOX stations.
    New World's former Big 3 stations that went to FOX followed a similar patten.
    Who knows? One day, FOX just might buy WSVN.

  • @LogoAttitude
    @LogoAttitude 15 лет назад +5

    FOX moving to WSVN was a major coup for the young network, because WSVN had been an NBC affiliate for years. FOX was probably more than pleased to get its programming onto a longtime Big 3 station back then. As an NBC affiliate, WSVN was a frequent pre-empter of programs, but with FOX they usually only preempted the cartoons and Fox News Sun. Morn. (FOX programs for fewer hours than the Big 3, and FNSM can also be seen on FNC)

  • @Cloud39.
    @Cloud39. 15 лет назад +8

    Nope it was just a local switch, WSVN went to FOX, WTVJ went to NBC, and WCIX (now WFOR) went to CBS.
    In 1994-95 is the switch really went nationwide as FOX bought broadcast rights to the NFL (NFC Games) whereas Group Westinghouse was bought by CBS and so on, causing a handful of stations across the country to switch some of which are now owned and operated.

    • @ndulmillenium
      @ndulmillenium 3 года назад +3

      At least, they showed the glimpse.

  • @NewmanNewsman
    @NewmanNewsman  16 лет назад +4

    WCIX and WTVJ only switched broadcast towers. The change was part of a complicated deal between CBS and NBC involving several different stations and markets. WTVJ went from broadcasting on Ch. 4 to Ch. 6. WCIX went from Ch. 6 to Ch 4. WCIX simultaneously switched its call letters to WFOR. I have both channel switches posted on my page.

  • @jeffreybaker100
    @jeffreybaker100 5 лет назад +5

    It was almost like a trend that was happening back then with tv stations swapping network affiliations. I remember in the summer of 1989 in Rochester, NY their NBC and CBS network affiliate stations swapped

    • @dimitriberozny3729
      @dimitriberozny3729 Год назад +1

      Because General Electric bought channel 10 in Rochester New York and had Hubbard Broadcasting Company managing the station!! This worked out great because General Electric installed a digital transmitter for the new NBC 10 in Rochester New York.

  • @DonDonP1
    @DonDonP1 14 лет назад +4

    Fascinating. Of course, at the time of this news story from 1988 uploaded here, there was one television program that continued to air on WCIX-TV-6 (now WFOR CBS 4) after it became a CBS O&O: the then-nationally-syndicated, Emmy award-winning 'Star Trek: The Next Generation', which ended its seven-year run on the formerly-named WCIX in 1994 with the two-hour series finale 'All Good Things...' Today, 'Star Trek' is owned by CBS as well.

  • @1985OldSkool
    @1985OldSkool 13 лет назад +5

    This must have been at the tail end of December 1988.

  • @fhs2004jtwwf2007
    @fhs2004jtwwf2007 10 лет назад +10

    3:29 this entrance is pure gold!!

  • @revinhatol
    @revinhatol 10 лет назад +5

    Actually, Channel 6 is not independent. It is a Fox Affiliate. And since next week, Channel 7 will air some syndicated shows and some Fox shows.

    • @kurtkauffman4326
      @kurtkauffman4326 9 лет назад +1

      U are right revin hatol!,It will do that alright!.

    • @JayRudko
      @JayRudko 3 года назад +1

      WSVN became the Fox affiliate on January 1, 1989. WCIX, the previous Fox affiliate, became a CBS O&O that same day. WTVJ, the former CBS affiliate, became an NBC station that day. NBC bought the station in 1988, but had to run it as a CBS affiliate until WSVN's affiliation agreement ran out.

    • @ndulmillenium
      @ndulmillenium 3 года назад +1

      Fox weren't that big until 1994

    • @rockvilleraven
      @rockvilleraven 5 дней назад

      @@ndulmilleniumThe thing that
      made Fox a major network was when they got the NFC rights from CBS.

  • @marcus813
    @marcus813 12 лет назад +3

    That's the affiliation switch that a ripple effect across FOX's stations that air news now. Many of FOX's O&Os do the news just like WSVN 7 did it and programmed in similar ways. WSVN 7 became a rare news-intensive FOX affiliate, which looks commonplace now among FOX stations that used to be affiliated with CBS, ABC or, in 7's case, NBC. I know about it since WTVT did the same thing in Tampa after the New World Communications deal on Dec. 12, 1994.

  • @Musicradio77Network
    @Musicradio77Network 8 лет назад +4

    In New York City, nothing has changed in the last 65 years. WCBS-TV has channel 2, WNBC-TV has channel 4, WABC-TV has channel 7, but I don't think they going to move affiliations to different channels, no way. These three TV stations in New York City are iconics and it should leave them alone.

    • @newstarcadefan
      @newstarcadefan 6 лет назад +3

      Well that...and they're owned and operated by the networks.

    • @devares2006
      @devares2006 5 лет назад +1

      @Jozar S., the Tribune-Sinclair merger isn't going through.

    • @devares2006
      @devares2006 5 лет назад +1

      @Jozar S. I'm aware.

    • @blatheringblathers347
      @blatheringblathers347 5 лет назад +1

      @@devares2006 We may be happy that they killed the Sincrap-Tribune murd.... uh merger, but with Nexstar it is going to be hell of a lot worse with Perry Sook that no good psychopath.

    • @erensalyer9705
      @erensalyer9705 5 лет назад +2

      The call signs are too perfect for any affiliation change. WPIX is in for it's money, however.

  • @altfactor
    @altfactor 3 года назад +2

    R.I.P., Ed Ansin.

  • @e.f.t.v.8361
    @e.f.t.v.8361 16 лет назад +2

    Not mentioned here was the ripple effect of the 1989 Miami affiliate changes.Because CBS moved then to channel 6 and Broward county would find it very difficult to get the station. WPEC-12 also changed affiliation from ABC to CBS. The West Palm Beach area stations were watched very clearly in Broward back then. The West Palm Beach/Fort Pierce stations involved in this 1989 switch were WPEC-12 from ABC to CBS, WTVX-34 lost CBS and became independent while ABC went to the brand new WPBF-25.

  • @NewmanNewsman
    @NewmanNewsman  13 лет назад +2

    @1985OldSkool It did. This aired in the last week of 1988, days before the switch.

  • @altfactor
    @altfactor 7 лет назад +9

    With the digital transition, didn't Channel 6 finally move their transmitter to the Dade antenna farm??

    • @newstarcadefan
      @newstarcadefan 5 лет назад +2

      They did. In the Analog era, they couldn't be on the transmitter farm because they would interfere with WKMG in Orlando.

    • @marcus813
      @marcus813 5 лет назад +3

      @@newstarcadefan That played a huge role in the WPB DMA having its own massive affiliation switch. WPEC had to switch from ABC to CBS at the latter network's urging just to give parts of Broward County CBS programming without pay TV. It also caused WPBF, which was gonna sign on as an independent, to change course by selling many, if not all, of its syndicated sitcoms and cartoons so it could jump to ABC and WTVX, which was left as an indy, to fold its beleaguered news department.

    • @newstarcadefan
      @newstarcadefan 5 лет назад +1

      @@marcus813 exactly right. WTVX is owned by Sinclair and is a sister to WPEC (the station that took their CBS affiliation away from them.

    • @RustyMuck
      @RustyMuck 3 года назад

      Not only that, WTVJ moved back on the channel 4 tower with the DTV switch!

  • @jmlim7095
    @jmlim7095 6 лет назад +13

    For 15 months, wasn't it the case that WTVJ owned by one 'Big 3' network (NBC) but at the same time affiliated with another (CBS)?

    • @JakeBechtold
      @JakeBechtold 5 лет назад +5

      That was part of the reason WSVN ended up going independent. CBS and NBC wanted to swap in 1987 (as NBC had already competed its purchase of WTVJ) but WSVN had a deal with NBC through 1988 and didn't want to give it up. Thus, NBC had to operate WTVJ as a CBS affiliate for a while. Both networks were so upset that CBS opted for the lesser signal of WCIX instead of making a deal with WSVN. (CBS and NBC would end up swapping licenses in 1995 as result of the Group W deal in Philly)

  • @videooblivion
    @videooblivion 2 года назад +1

    These people didn't know on which station those shows were broadcast *before* the switch!

  • @marcus813
    @marcus813 16 лет назад +2

    Maybe it still seems independent because it goes against the FOX Mandate (FOX 7 or FOX Miami/South Florida), although it really wasn't after the big switch. Nonetheless, it set the tone for other FOX stations in terms of how news is presented.

  • @mochafiend1
    @mochafiend1 7 лет назад +8

    Channel 4, was once a CBS affiliate, now (and currently), it's back to being a CBS affiliate, in the fall of 1995. Crazy, huh?

    • @ScoopNemeth
      @ScoopNemeth 2 года назад

      CBS on Channel 4...awesome the second time around AS WFOR!!!

    • @marcosjuarez7809
      @marcosjuarez7809 2 года назад

      Actually, WTVJ is still stuck with NBC since January 1989. The only that have changed are the channel numbers which went from 4 to 6 since 1995. It is WFOR (formerly known as WCIX) have stuck with CBS after they left WTVJ and WSVN opted out to have CBS affiliation. Sunbeam Television which owns WSVN said "thanks, but not thanks" to have CBS affiliation. That is why the networks do not go to loyal viewers. The networks go where the money is.

  • @SpittingKitty
    @SpittingKitty 16 лет назад +1

    There are times when I visit Miami and still forget the channel line ups. LOL

  • @jrdavis1992
    @jrdavis1992 2 года назад +1

    CBS's time on Channel 6 was short lived, as they (WCIX/WFOR) would take back CBS's original spot on Channel 4 in 1995 as part of a swap between them and WTVJ. Basically: they swapped positions on the dial, taking their network affiliations with them in doing so.

  • @seabassseabass8835
    @seabassseabass8835 5 лет назад

    I remembered when this happened. Missed an episode of Riptide due to the confusion 😂😂😂😂

  • @NewmanNewsman
    @NewmanNewsman  15 лет назад +2

    "Inside Story" later became "Inside Report." Neither was connected to "Inside Edition."

  • @consumingtheeyeballs
    @consumingtheeyeballs 16 лет назад

    Thank goodness I was born after this.

  • @marcosjuarez7809
    @marcosjuarez7809 8 лет назад +2

    I was born on October 23, 1989 just months after the big TV flip-flop. WTVJ now carries the peacock and still is an NBC O&O station to this day. But I never like WSVN, CBS, neither Fox. One thing for sure is that WSVN's newsplex is what I called the "Newsroom of Doom" and they now have flamboyant style of local news. Sunbean Television is facing a similar fate to this day because they also own WHDH in Boston and they, like WSVN, are losing its affiliation with NBC. I read about it in Wikipedia and saw some RUclips videos about it.

    • @marcosjuarez7809
      @marcosjuarez7809 7 лет назад

      I figure that this could happen again if WFOR-TV (formerly WCIX-TV) doesn't keep up with the competition along with WTVJ, WSVN, and WPLG because they start their early evening newscast at 4 PM. WFOR-TV doesn't start their every evening newscast until 5 PM which means bad news for CBS and people are saying, "I can't wait until 5 PM to watch the news because I can watch the news at 4 PM." Who knows, but time would tell that this could happen again. And besides, the networks go where the money is and not the loyal TV viewer because TV broadcasting is a money-making business.

    • @newstarcadefan
      @newstarcadefan 6 лет назад +1

      That actually can't happen since WFOR/WBFS both are CBS owned and operated stations.

  • @kjkj6362
    @kjkj6362 5 лет назад +1

    When Carmel said “in order to do Dallas” I was like what? I don’t think she thought that out

    • @thisguyhere6641
      @thisguyhere6641 4 года назад

      Debbie Does Dallas! That's probably reason enough why Carmel mentioned the line "in order to do Dallas!"

  • @NewmanNewsman
    @NewmanNewsman  13 лет назад +2

    @altfactor I've never heard of that proposal.

  • @Pacmannion
    @Pacmannion 16 лет назад +1

    Oh lord! It's Darth Ansin! And geeze... I wasn't expect Joel Cheatwood... to look... soo.. nerdy.

  • @gidzmobug2323
    @gidzmobug2323 7 лет назад +2

    so who's where now?

  • @robphilll22
    @robphilll22 7 лет назад +3

    7 should be an ABC station.

    • @newstarcadefan
      @newstarcadefan 6 лет назад +2

      That ain't happening. WPLG is more than happy with ABC and they're not giving up without lofty prices.

    • @altfactor
      @altfactor 6 лет назад +3

      WPLG is one of ABC's strongest affiliates.

    • @canadianmike711
      @canadianmike711 3 года назад

      WHDH was as WNAC

  • @tyreeharrellwright2164
    @tyreeharrellwright2164 6 лет назад +4

    wsvn fox 7 owned by sunbream television

  • @notnok5595
    @notnok5595 19 дней назад

    “Time to straighten out South Florida’s TV players.
    In 1989, Channel 7 (WSVN), which used to show NBC programs, bids adieu to the Peacock and becomes an independent•. On Channel 7, you will find, among other things, a hour-long 10:00 newscast and 8:00 movie.
    (•Note: the independent status is incorrect; The stations involved were actually affiliated with Fox, which only offered programming in weekends at the time, making the affiliates behave as de-facto independent stations.)
    Channel 4 (WTVJ, now Channel 6) says so long to CBS and picks up the Peacock, since channel 4 is now an NBC owned-and-operated station. Shows like ‘Bill Cosby’ and ‘Cheers’ will be found here.
    Channel 6 (WCIX, now WFOR 4), meanwhile, which used to be an independent•, will be carrying CBS programs, because it too has became a network owned-and-operated station. If you’re looking for ‘60 Minutes’, look to Channel 6.”

  • @colonelpotter
    @colonelpotter 2 года назад

    Instead of the big switch CBS had 2 stations in Philadelphia ,NBC had lost it's station there but it had WMGM-TV in Atlantic City/Wildwood and just boosted it's power to force CBS to sell a station.

  • @ParanormalRob
    @ParanormalRob 12 лет назад +2

    Has the problem of channel 6's signal been fixed?

    • @JayRudko
      @JayRudko 3 года назад

      Since the digital switch, yes. I believe the tower in Princeton was dismantled.

  • @Chuloloc
    @Chuloloc 14 лет назад

    Awesome. The way things used to be back in Florida during the late 80's. By the way, I used to have a crush on Penny Daniels. I just hope she and her family are doing well these days and also, Sally Fitz.

  • @CyborgNinja7
    @CyborgNinja7 16 лет назад

    I know there are several large satellites at their studio in Miramar. I don't know if it transmits there.

  • @jerseyfla
    @jerseyfla 16 лет назад

    Yes they were but at that time Fox only had programming on Saturday and Sundays (I think) so they didn't really consider themselves as a network affiliate at that time.

  • @NewmanNewsman
    @NewmanNewsman  14 лет назад

    @Padrigfilms
    Because, at the time, Fox only programmed 2 nights a week. It wasn't the full-fledged network it is today.

  • @wendycampbell6165
    @wendycampbell6165 8 лет назад +2

    Happy 27th anniversary wsvn 7 wtvj 6 and wfor 4

  • @jeffreybaker100
    @jeffreybaker100 5 лет назад

    Penny Daniels once worked at WKBW TV Channel 7 in Buffalo. ABC affiliate

  • @altfactor
    @altfactor 13 лет назад

    Around that time, didn't the FCC consider moving Channel 7 down to the Keys, and moving WSVN to a new UHF allocation??

    • @JayRudko
      @JayRudko 3 года назад

      No! Where did that come from? Prior to the digital switch, what full-power VHF station, in its right mind, would want to go to UHF? WSVN broadcasts on channel 9 now with their digital signal; that's where it would have made sense to go to UHF, since that band seems to work better for digital TV than VHF.

  • @dimitriberozny3729
    @dimitriberozny3729 2 года назад +1

    In a few years,it becomes a FOX affiliate.

  • @Justin-Hill-1987
    @Justin-Hill-1987 9 лет назад

    WSVN started out as an NBC affiliate, then an independent affiliate with a secondary FOX affiliation. WSVN is now a full-time FOX affiliate.

    • @madden8021
      @madden8021 8 лет назад

      +Justin Hill But they refuse to rename their news name from WSVN 7 News to Fox 7 News.

    • @Justin-Hill-1987
      @Justin-Hill-1987 8 лет назад +1

      madden8021 They use the FOX name sparingly, only using it in advertisements.

    • @madden8021
      @madden8021 8 лет назад

      Yep.

    • @Ritmo965
      @Ritmo965 7 лет назад

      Justin Hill that's cool a orady
      now that

  • @CyborgNinja7
    @CyborgNinja7 16 лет назад

    Doesn't 6 transmit in Miramar now as well, since about 2002?

    • @RustyMuck
      @RustyMuck 4 года назад

      CyborgNinja7 WTVJ 6 officially moved back to the old channel 4 tower with the DTV switch in 2009.

  • @altfactor
    @altfactor Год назад

    WPLG Channel 10 was the big winner in both Miami affiliation swaps.
    But only because they reportedly turned down an offer in 1994 to join Fox.

  • @kmart3697
    @kmart3697 12 лет назад +2

    but 1995 when channel 4 WTVJ move to CHANNEL 6 NBC 6 and channel 6 wcix CBS now wfor move to ch 4

  • @Rebmetpes4
    @Rebmetpes4 6 лет назад

    ...and they went right back to their affiliates: cbs 4 and nbc 6, both network o&o!

  • @MrFreshman92
    @MrFreshman92 13 лет назад

    My god look how pretty and young Carmel Cafiero look here...i cant believe she's been with wsvn for over 20 years

  • @thisguyhere6641
    @thisguyhere6641 6 лет назад

    In 1988, seven years before The Big Switch came to Denver, it came to Miami! Why?! Because WTVJ Channel 4 went from CBS to NBC, WSVN Channel 7 went from NBC to FOX, and WCIX Channel 6 went from FOX to CBS! Then in 1995, WTVJ moved to Channel 6, and WCIX moved to Channel 4 and became WFOR!

  • @kaiokendo
    @kaiokendo 11 лет назад +2

    channel6 changes to cnnbcbs XD

  • @LogoAttitude
    @LogoAttitude 15 лет назад

    the digital signal reaches the north part of the market better, so that problem is gone

  • @LeroyBright
    @LeroyBright 16 лет назад

    Hope they bring back the original Miami-Ft. Lauderda;e TV Network lineup!CBS-4,Fox 6,NBC 7 and ABC 10.

    • @JayRudko
      @JayRudko 3 года назад

      Why? It doesn't matter anymore.

  • @JimmySand9
    @JimmySand9 15 лет назад

    Well the plantiff and defendant have to give consent before they go on a court show, and they're all civil cases so nobody needs to worry about Judge Judy presiding over a double murder trial.

  • @LogoAttitude
    @LogoAttitude 15 лет назад

    WTVJ's sale has been canceled.

  • @grahambrunk
    @grahambrunk 15 лет назад

    I don't think that was the only reason for their success.

  • @justanormalcommenter1409
    @justanormalcommenter1409 4 года назад +1

    Channel 4(WTVJ): CBS -> NBC
    Channel 6(WCIX): Fox -> CBS
    Channel 7(WSVN): NBC -> Fox

  • @thxlopez
    @thxlopez 4 месяца назад

    Fox 7 didn’t really became a full-week network till 1993-1994 and then outbid cbs for nfl Sunday games

  • @ScoopNemeth
    @ScoopNemeth 2 года назад

    3:07 - Not true Carmel. You're gonna be a FOX affiliate. Which means "This is the Year, The Year for FOX 7!"

    • @marcosjuarez7809
      @marcosjuarez7809 2 года назад

      Actually, between 1989 and 1993 since WSVN lost its affiliation with NBC, the Fox network did not have a full-time prime time scheduling of its programing. That is until in 1993, the Fox network expanded its prime time scheduling because they were on the verge of buying broadcasting rights for the National Football League's NFC package from CBS.

  • @matthewcampbell7985
    @matthewcampbell7985 5 лет назад

    January 1st 2019 30th anniversary 7 Fox 4/6 nbc 6/4 CBS well done all 3.

  • @canadianmike711
    @canadianmike711 Год назад

    Fox been on channel 7 since 1989

  • @jamesklatt
    @jamesklatt 2 года назад

    Is WSVN now a fox station?

    • @madden8021
      @madden8021 Год назад

      Still is but doesn't want the Fox news type branding like fox 7 news or something like that.

  • @DVSyoutube
    @DVSyoutube 5 лет назад

    Uh, oh. Where's FOX?

    • @chutefan2011
      @chutefan2011 5 лет назад

      channel 7

    • @DVSyoutube
      @DVSyoutube 5 лет назад

      @@chutefan2011 Yeah. That's right. At that time, NBC Peacock flew to channel 4(WTVJ, currently on channel 6), CBS eye saw the way to channel 6(WCIX, switched to channel 4 and became WFOR-TV in 1995.)
      Meanwhile, WPLG-TV, channel 10, kept their relationship with ABC.
      WSVN, channel 7, switched as an independent station, later they picked FOX.

    • @RustyMuck
      @RustyMuck 4 года назад +2

      Fox only programmed one night a week by that point. They had just dropped the nightly "The Late Show" after multiple iterations and multiple hosts, one of which was Arsenio Hall (he got his own syndication deal with Paramount).

  • @tomwilliams6768
    @tomwilliams6768 8 лет назад +1

    it would've made more sense to make wsvn abc

    • @1thetvzone
      @1thetvzone 8 лет назад +2

      Naw, ABC was happy with WPLG/ Channel 10 they were tops in the ratings...

    • @wendycampbell6165
      @wendycampbell6165 8 лет назад +1

      No they not ABC stays with wplg

    • @1thetvzone
      @1thetvzone 8 лет назад +1

      Wendy Campbell Huh? what are you talking about? At that time WPLG was #1 in the market Ann Bishop and had huge ratings, so ABC/WPLG stayed together...There still ABC to this day.

    • @kurtkauffman4326
      @kurtkauffman4326 8 лет назад +3

      +thetvzone Right you are!,Channel 10 had no desire to change any Network Affiliations.It now stays on ABC & has been doing it since its start-up on 11/20/1961.

  • @chimaamanambu6067
    @chimaamanambu6067 Год назад

    At the time WSVN switched to Fox, the network never aired programming on weekdays.

  • @tyreeharrellwright8998
    @tyreeharrellwright8998 5 лет назад +1

    wsvn fox 7 owned by sunbream television