i knew it i always thought that forearms muscles had to play a role in speed, i also noticed that as my grip got a lot better in the last months (switched to full chalistenics training so im doing a shit ton of hanging) my stream speed and stamina also got much better in the same time, so for the perfect osu training just do a lot of finger curls/dead hangs lol
that's a great video. as a speed player who also loves gym i can refer to everything said in this video. also you forgot to mention, as well as minimizing your movement, you need to keep your hand chilling, don't tense it too much. at least on streams, on goreshit maps you have to kick the heck out of your kb with fingers, it is what i think, or it is what works for me
I've been this brick thoughts of technique for several years. I always thought that there must be some gear or form that more optimized than I did that time. So, for the last couple months, I started playing with ring index finger for fun (i've been switching back to back between index middle and ring index that time), uses the light linear switch (supposedly red, but somehow this red a bit lighter) and play.. freedom dive? At that time, I just know I have the speed and.. magically survive 16 note burst with bunch of 100s. To be noted, tho, i cant even go pass 8 note burst without 50s at that time. My point is, yes, techniques does play somewhat important role, at least in my case. WhiteCat also switched to ring index and he can stream >220. Might not work for everybody tho. But, the reason why this works for me, is because, I tried to record my stream map gameplay, and what I notice is, my ring finger is just keep following my middle finger tapping, which causes a lot of tension in my arm. So, if you been playing osu for 5 years plus and still can't stream 200bpm, try recording your gameplay with handcam, see what part of your arm that kinda tensing with your un-tensing effort.
Wish that we would be able to somehow calculate the anatomically perfect tapping technique and pen grip, despite it being a highly subjective and individualized aspect of gameplay, like some mad German scientist trying to find the perfect genetic code lol or find ways to practice the most optimal aiming style in accordance with how you play. Unfortunately, people at osu I noticed, don't think that far and mostly rely on intuition and don't really think about it and just simply expect that playing more makes you become better than everyone else, you're just essentially hoping you'll develop the right things and get on an at least slightly above average rank based on the time you started playing. Just interested in the idea of more systemization on osu
Even in chess the way you learn to move pieces in a fast way when very low on time is crucial (say in a 3+2 game, if you have less than 10 seconds left you must play a move in less than 2 seconds which implies moving the piece and touching the clock)
I just started to study kinesiology and I want to say I want to be like u and I will proudly snipe ur 400pp scores xd As of progressive overload and limit pushing, as I'm also a sports nerd and I'm in touch with it due me being a parkour athlete, I developed a "program" to improve stamina/speed. I grabbed this longstream map that goes up to 180 and made custom diffs till 230bpm and every 2 or 3 days I did reps of limit pushing with combo in the highest bpm I can (usually ranges of 100 to 200 combo) and trying to fc the highest bpm dif I can till I can clear it with 95 and move up 10bpms. It went really well but stopped due osu not being a priority lol
my problem is i click faster with my right hand bc i played minecraft pvp for several years and im not that fast with my left hand. i cant aim with my left hand and click with my right because im right handed 🥲
It’s been almost a year I’m trying to improve my speed with almost no success.. The worst thing is when I discovered that my friend, who never played rythm games in his life, was capable of streaming 390bpm 85 unstable rate the first time i made him try a stream brpm test 😭
the reason why there's few good speed players, is because people follow whatever map that is meta, which is maps that give pp, so they generally don't really isolate skills for the sake of being good at the skill like your fast running example, the majority just lets the meta define them.
I disagree with the aiming part. Anyone who tried playing with their opposite hand (for most it should be aiming with left then) knows what I'm talking about. Your aim might be better than your main hand aim back when you started but it wont be as good as your main aim hand aim now.
Its not just physical. I think proof would be that mrekk a 15 year old with no gym experience has such high speed 💀 its definitely dependent on technique. I have had the same speed of death streaming 230bpm for a year now. But only way i was able to go into 280 bursting abilities with simply changing the way i tap. So if one experiments enough with different techniques. Obviously physical ability is also important because otherwise you wouldn't be able to perfect your tapping ability. Even so ive met so many 14 year olds who are 4 digits and can semi death stream 260bpm. And ive noticed almost all of them have similar tapping styles. Edit:(obviously it depends on the player but that doesn't change my point. Finding the right technique is extremely important. I've learnt this after spending 1k hours on speed alone.) but even after all of that I realized that training finger control is extremely important to maintain acc on speed maps. For example I was only able to maintain 95% ACC on a 270bpm burst speed 7 star. Which makes me realise how truly important finger control is as well.
dude for only 462 subs at the time of this comment, the research and time that went into this video is insane. i think you could be extremely beneficial to more people than just me. please keep making videos :D
Bro, I haven't felt that burn in my left hand in months. i think i have carpal tunnel syndrome or something like that(if i play streams at any speed above 200bpm, i feel pain :( or my index finger stop working, but no "burn" like in a workout ) Pd sorry for bad english xd
Theres never gonna be a perfect technique that everyone should strive for, the reason being that everyones bodys are different. For example, I tried to extend my index finger like merami did in his "test" video and I physically cant even hold it there while using my middle finger for pressing. He taps very hard while others tap light. Some use linear switches, some use tactile. There is no best switch either, I was at my peak 3 years ago with razer greens while pretty much everyone hates greens, but I could stream 250 and jad infinite stamina on 200-215bpm, even up to 230 sometimes, and I was very low 5 digit... I switched to reds and now I have wooting and I cant even stream 220 and I cant alternate anymore. I need tactile switches back
you have to also consider the control aspect, someone like usain bolt is training to just go as fast as humanly possible but would someone training like that be able to say run exactly an 11.5 second sprint on command?
I don't understand osu bpm because 300 bpm should be only 5 clicks per second which if you try it out isnt that fast but that isnt how osu's bpm works like seriously look up a 300 bpm metronome...I can keep up with that with my pinky toe
I actually do know a lot about this! It's because in osu, most beatmaps tend to use "jumps" that are already twice as fast as the bpm. Therefore when you hit a stream, it's actually requiring you to tap 4x as fast as the bpm itself. I might make a video detailing how that works, it's not actually osu's fault!
@@flyinosu well I didn't *really* think it was "osu's fault" I just was kinda weirded out\confused because it wasn't matching up...I guess...anyway yeah I would probably watch a video about this topic
@@generallowres4636 streams are 1/4th rhythms which means you click 4x as fast as the bpm, jumps are 1/2 rhythms, etc. (thats what people mean when they say a map has a "1/3rd section")
bruhmoment2262 is correct. Streams are 1/4 rhythm. Musically, it would be like 16th notes where the nominal bpm of an osu beatmap would be the metronome marking for a quarter note. So 300bpm streams mean you are actually tapping 1200bpm, or 20 times a second
I find it ironic how he used sprinting as the analogy throughout the video. Sprinting is one of the, if not, the sport that is the most determined by genetics: muscle insertions, bone length etc. Furthermore, nothing of value was said in the video. It is extremely obvious that there are better and worse ways to stream high bpm. Also, nobody ever said to only play maps that are in your comfort zone either. Pushing the boundaries has always been something associated with any skill. This whole video can be summed up with 1 sentence at 8:18 . How about providing some actual content that relates physiology with osu in an interesting way, instead of just a khan acaemdy from wish-seque explenation at 3:22 . Because if not, what then is the reason of pointing out that you have degree in physiology (as of writing).
a bit late to the video but i think its obvious about which tapping technique is best for fast streaming but what needs exploring is the best burst technique, which would involve the ability to generate as much speed and also accelerate tappign as fast as possible also switching from non burst into a burst which is similar to what would be in sprinting getting out of the blocks as well as possible
by the first sentence i meant that the best tapping technique would just be the technique of using as little movement as possible in order to have speed but conserve energy and be consistent, the actual method in doing the technique would vary across different hand morphology
by the first sentence i meant that the best tapping technique would just be the technique of using as little movement as possible in order to have speed but conserve energy and be consistent, the actual method in doing the technique would vary across different hand morphology
So ur comparing clicking two buttons and sprinting. Playing osu barely uses muscle when ur used to it and the speed technique if mastered is like unlimited stamina the hardest thing is the finger control
I'm putting a checkpoint here: Currently 6 digits (107K) top play: Harumachi Clover DT (277PP) can stream 180-200BPM long stream playing 400+ maps everyday i'm going to update it in 1 year from now
video too long so not watching the entire thing (💀) but ur completely right about speed being the only limiting physical skill good first 1/3rd of the video tho, just got a lot of shit to do so can't watch the entire thing lmao
speed is less raw strength and more technique than you think it is. I'm a speed player and I play osu on and off. Even after a long break (couple months) I am still able to play speed maps ok thanks to my tapping technique. I think up to 500-600pp, it's pure technique, only 600pp+ requires physical training.
Thats what i came to realize lately. I basically tried to improve my speed by only straining and "working out" my muscles. But i never got above 200bpm. Now i am focussing on technique etc and I immediately was able to somewhat play 210 bpm in a few days. Technique is reallyyy underappreciated.
@@deadmopose5990"streaming 300" i do not really believe that, because you do not seem to be a top player, but let's assume you do. Because you trained your tapping arm, you can stream this, but before you did, im 100% sure that you couldn't with both without training. As for your dominant hand/arm its normal to have more speed because of all the tasks you do with it daily. You for sure use your one arm more than another. You cannot tell me you have both arms at exactly same strenght. Speed has to do with mental, but its by far not "mostly"
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Secretely, Merami is a body builder
Hes doing push ups on his fingers (300 times per minute)
Fr man, I mean, speed player with blue switch? There's gotta be much power over his whole arm to his key pressing
well we got to see him recently
@@FullAltOsu It was a prank
He does actually hit the gym
Really hit us with the "side effects may include:" at 4:08
Edit: Thanks for the gold kind stranger
Btw this is an awesome video, keep it up 👍
tf u mean thanks for the gold this aint reddit
Very nice video deserves more attention. well put together
Your video is sooo useful and informative, well made and everything, deserves way more atention ❤❤
This video was extremely well made, and very helpful! Thank you!
I think that speed on osu might be very well kind of the same as speed on guitar when it comes to the finger movement
i like men.
i knew it i always thought that forearms muscles had to play a role in speed, i also noticed that as my grip got a lot better in the last months (switched to full chalistenics training so im doing a shit ton of hanging) my stream speed and stamina also got much better in the same time, so for the perfect osu training just do a lot of finger curls/dead hangs lol
i mean the muscles that move the finger joints are in the palm and forearm so yes
most indepth video about speed i've watched, keep it up!
i have a feeling btmc will react to this soon, and also great video
Thanks! I wouldn't mind if that happened ;)
good quality content you made, sub and like earned especially since youre such a small channel. keep going
great video, you'd make good osu! video essays
that's a great video. as a speed player who also loves gym i can refer to everything said in this video.
also you forgot to mention, as well as minimizing your movement, you need to keep your hand chilling, don't tense it too much. at least on streams, on goreshit maps you have to kick the heck out of your kb with fingers, it is what i think, or it is what works for me
crazily well made video
"Osu is a game"
I agree
Such a good video, mann why do the most underrated channels always have the highest quality of content. What a cruel world
Great video !
I've been this brick thoughts of technique for several years. I always thought that there must be some gear or form that more optimized than I did that time.
So, for the last couple months, I started playing with ring index finger for fun (i've been switching back to back between index middle and ring index that time), uses the light linear switch (supposedly red, but somehow this red a bit lighter) and play.. freedom dive? At that time, I just know I have the speed and.. magically survive 16 note burst with bunch of 100s. To be noted, tho, i cant even go pass 8 note burst without 50s at that time.
My point is, yes, techniques does play somewhat important role, at least in my case. WhiteCat also switched to ring index and he can stream >220. Might not work for everybody tho.
But, the reason why this works for me, is because, I tried to record my stream map gameplay, and what I notice is, my ring finger is just keep following my middle finger tapping, which causes a lot of tension in my arm.
So, if you been playing osu for 5 years plus and still can't stream 200bpm, try recording your gameplay with handcam, see what part of your arm that kinda tensing with your un-tensing effort.
anyone can stream up to 250 imo
Great video
Wish that we would be able to somehow calculate the anatomically perfect tapping technique and pen grip, despite it being a highly subjective and individualized aspect of gameplay, like some mad German scientist trying to find the perfect genetic code lol or find ways to practice the most optimal aiming style in accordance with how you play. Unfortunately, people at osu I noticed, don't think that far and mostly rely on intuition and don't really think about it and just simply expect that playing more makes you become better than everyone else, you're just essentially hoping you'll develop the right things and get on an at least slightly above average rank based on the time you started playing. Just interested in the idea of more systemization on osu
great video
this was pretty epic
Bro gave a disclaimer like the dude in the pharmacy ads
Even in chess the way you learn to move pieces in a fast way when very low on time is crucial (say in a 3+2 game, if you have less than 10 seconds left you must play a move in less than 2 seconds which implies moving the piece and touching the clock)
very good video
I just started to study kinesiology and I want to say I want to be like u and I will proudly snipe ur 400pp scores xd
As of progressive overload and limit pushing, as I'm also a sports nerd and I'm in touch with it due me being a parkour athlete, I developed a "program" to improve stamina/speed.
I grabbed this longstream map that goes up to 180 and made custom diffs till 230bpm and every 2 or 3 days I did reps of limit pushing with combo in the highest bpm I can (usually ranges of 100 to 200 combo) and trying to fc the highest bpm dif I can till I can clear it with 95 and move up 10bpms. It went really well but stopped due osu not being a priority lol
Well aim stamina exists and sometimes my right hand that ks aiming gets more tired
oh my god thank you so much this has successfully made me able to finger my keyboard faster, i will now stroke it in tribute to your help my good sir
my problem is i click faster with my right hand bc i played minecraft pvp for several years and im not that fast with my left hand. i cant aim with my left hand and click with my right because im right handed 🥲
Bro why this lowkey good?
science
ngl this guy sounds like a young bruhmasterl
nice vid !
only 18 subs and such a good video, now 19 subs ig
It’s been almost a year I’m trying to improve my speed with almost no success.. The worst thing is when I discovered that my friend, who never played rythm games in his life, was capable of streaming 390bpm 85 unstable rate the first time i made him try a stream brpm test 😭
Thank you for this. It has helped me improve. (also what is the skin used in most of the video)
im inspired thanks
the reason why there's few good speed players, is because people follow whatever map that is meta, which is maps that give pp, so they generally don't really isolate skills for the sake of being good at the skill like your fast running example, the majority just lets the meta define them.
skin in the first clip? ( the first seconds of the video I mean not the live stream clips)
Ngl when I clicked on the video and heard the first sentence I thought it was BruhMasterL💀
cool video
I disagree with the aiming part. Anyone who tried playing with their opposite hand (for most it should be aiming with left then) knows what I'm talking about. Your aim might be better than your main hand aim back when you started but it wont be as good as your main aim hand aim now.
well it's because you have to let your brain adapt to the opposite hand.
Its not just physical. I think proof would be that mrekk a 15 year old with no gym experience has such high speed 💀 its definitely dependent on technique. I have had the same speed of death streaming 230bpm for a year now. But only way i was able to go into 280 bursting abilities with simply changing the way i tap. So if one experiments enough with different techniques. Obviously physical ability is also important because otherwise you wouldn't be able to perfect your tapping ability. Even so ive met so many 14 year olds who are 4 digits and can semi death stream 260bpm. And ive noticed almost all of them have similar tapping styles.
Edit:(obviously it depends on the player but that doesn't change my point. Finding the right technique is extremely important. I've learnt this after spending 1k hours on speed alone.) but even after all of that I realized that training finger control is extremely important to maintain acc on speed maps. For example I was only able to maintain 95% ACC on a 270bpm burst speed 7 star. Which makes me realise how truly important finger control is as well.
if mania players can aim the circle 300 bpm will be easy for them bc most mania maps about speed
and if u ask me i can do 300 bpm
play autopilot
dude for only 462 subs at the time of this comment, the research and time that went into this video is insane. i think you could be extremely beneficial to more people than just me. please keep making videos :D
Bro, I haven't felt that burn in my left hand in months. i think i have carpal tunnel syndrome or something like that(if i play streams at any speed above 200bpm, i feel pain :( or my index finger stop working, but no "burn" like in a workout )
Pd sorry for bad english xd
i can sometimes do 390 sometimes i cant !
Theres never gonna be a perfect technique that everyone should strive for, the reason being that everyones bodys are different. For example, I tried to extend my index finger like merami did in his "test" video and I physically cant even hold it there while using my middle finger for pressing. He taps very hard while others tap light. Some use linear switches, some use tactile. There is no best switch either, I was at my peak 3 years ago with razer greens while pretty much everyone hates greens, but I could stream 250 and jad infinite stamina on 200-215bpm, even up to 230 sometimes, and I was very low 5 digit... I switched to reds and now I have wooting and I cant even stream 220 and I cant alternate anymore. I need tactile switches back
gonna go grind speed, Nice video bro. also Skin?
Thanks!! Skin is called Wintherest, it was part of the last skinning competition
@@flyinosu thanks man
450 bpm is possible but the method is like actually hard to do accurately
Nice vídeo
i thought i watched bruhmasterl video for some reason
Square jumps are physical aswell
great video, however turn down the hitsounds they're a bit too loud at some points :)
Thanks!! And ok will do :)
just hit the keys i think none of the top players put any thought into it they just practice and are consistent
watching this to get faster in fortnite lol... great vid
Flawed video but still entertaining to watch
you have to also consider the control aspect, someone like usain bolt is training to just go as fast as humanly possible but would someone training like that be able to say run exactly an 11.5 second sprint on command?
I just got you to 727 subs. You’re welcome
I don't understand osu bpm because 300 bpm should be only 5 clicks per second which if you try it out isnt that fast but that isnt how osu's bpm works like seriously look up a 300 bpm metronome...I can keep up with that with my pinky toe
I actually do know a lot about this! It's because in osu, most beatmaps tend to use "jumps" that are already twice as fast as the bpm. Therefore when you hit a stream, it's actually requiring you to tap 4x as fast as the bpm itself. I might make a video detailing how that works, it's not actually osu's fault!
@@flyinosu well I didn't *really* think it was "osu's fault" I just was kinda weirded out\confused because it wasn't matching up...I guess...anyway yeah I would probably watch a video about this topic
@@generallowres4636 streams are 1/4th rhythms which means you click 4x as fast as the bpm, jumps are 1/2 rhythms, etc. (thats what people mean when they say a map has a "1/3rd section")
bruhmoment2262 is correct. Streams are 1/4 rhythm. Musically, it would be like 16th notes where the nominal bpm of an osu beatmap would be the metronome marking for a quarter note. So 300bpm streams mean you are actually tapping 1200bpm, or 20 times a second
I find it ironic how he used sprinting as the analogy throughout the video. Sprinting is one of the, if not, the sport that is the most determined by genetics: muscle insertions, bone length etc. Furthermore, nothing of value was said in the video. It is extremely obvious that there are better and worse ways to stream high bpm. Also, nobody ever said to only play maps that are in your comfort zone either. Pushing the boundaries has always been something associated with any skill.
This whole video can be summed up with 1 sentence at 8:18 . How about providing some actual content that relates physiology with osu in an interesting way, instead of just a khan acaemdy from wish-seque explenation at 3:22 . Because if not, what then is the reason of pointing out that you have degree in physiology (as of writing).
2:58 lmao
So you're telling me playing four finger IS better?
0:00 skin?
Its sad that people dont know XII and think aetrna started streaming above 300 bpm
1:40
0:20 LMAOOO
Skin? (at 0:00)
a bit late to the video but i think its obvious about which tapping technique is best for fast streaming but what needs exploring is the best burst technique, which would involve the ability to generate as much speed and also accelerate tappign as fast as possible also switching from non burst into a burst which is similar to what would be in sprinting getting out of the blocks as well as possible
by the first sentence i meant that the best tapping technique would just be the technique of using as little movement as possible in order to have speed but conserve energy and be consistent, the actual method in doing the technique would vary across different hand morphology
by the first sentence i meant that the best tapping technique would just be the technique of using as little movement as possible in order to have speed but conserve energy and be consistent, the actual method in doing the technique would vary across different hand morphology
So ur comparing clicking two buttons and sprinting. Playing osu barely uses muscle when ur used to it and the speed technique if mastered is like unlimited stamina the hardest thing is the finger control
I'm putting a checkpoint here: Currently 6 digits (107K)
top play: Harumachi Clover DT (277PP)
can stream 180-200BPM long stream
playing 400+ maps everyday
i'm going to update it in 1 year from now
the correct technique is just the one you find yourself comfortable with
video too long so not watching the entire thing (💀) but ur completely right about speed being the only limiting physical skill
good first 1/3rd of the video tho, just got a lot of shit to do so can't watch the entire thing lmao
speed is less raw strength and more technique than you think it is. I'm a speed player and I play osu on and off. Even after a long break (couple months) I am still able to play speed maps ok thanks to my tapping technique. I think up to 500-600pp, it's pure technique, only 600pp+ requires physical training.
Thats what i came to realize lately. I basically tried to improve my speed by only straining and "working out" my muscles. But i never got above 200bpm. Now i am focussing on technique etc and I immediately was able to somewhat play 210 bpm in a few days. Technique is reallyyy underappreciated.
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the only hard thing in speed is stamina imo everyone should talk about how to improve stamina and not how to just improve at "speed"
Bro idgaf js tell me the technique
speed is still mostly mental (same as aiming: muscle memory) and also its not about muscle its technique
everything is mental
underrated comment, if you think about it, why can't the people who have the best grip strength play 500 bpm in osu?
@@deadmopose5990 because these aren't the same muscles involved ?
@@Waypse bro why i can stream 300 bpm on both of my hands without training my right arm then?
@@deadmopose5990"streaming 300" i do not really believe that, because you do not seem to be a top player, but let's assume you do. Because you trained your tapping arm, you can stream this, but before you did, im 100% sure that you couldn't with both without training. As for your dominant hand/arm its normal to have more speed because of all the tasks you do with it daily. You for sure use your one arm more than another. You cannot tell me you have both arms at exactly same strenght.
Speed has to do with mental, but its by far not "mostly"
short answer no so people stop wasting time watching this and get some in game practice trust me it helps more.
i cant tell is this is april fools or not