Come Follow Me - Mosiah 29 - Alma 4 (part 3): "The Curse of God"
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Part 3 of a 3-part verse-by-verse study of Mosiah 29 through Alma 4, which recounts the establishment of the reign of the judges and the accounts of Nehor and Amlici. Part 3 covers Alma 2-4 and examines the story of Amlici, parallels to the War in Heaven, the Lamanite curse, the wickedness of the Church, and Alma the Younger's choice to sacrifice one kingdom in order to build another. Join Jared Halverson for your weekly Come Follow Me study of the Book of Mormon!
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One again the lesson is perfect and needed for the week. Shows how truly wonderful and all knowing Heavenly Father is since he knows what the world will be facing and discussing
Amen! He's given us all we need, if only we have the eyes to see. Thank you for watching!
“Righteous dominion is still dominion...” Alma did not step down so he would have more time to preach, he did it to send a message. I am going to make a study of that message. thxs
There's definitely a balance that righteous leaders need to make between exercising leadership/authority ("dominion," if you will) and helping their "subjects" become responsible "agents unto themselves." Neither party can abdicate their responsibility in ensuring that this growth in independence occurs.
I was in a college history class many years ago when the professor said, I'm paraphrasing her (she had a doctorate in Indian studies, specifically the tribes of Montana) the Indians called themselves red men, bc red was the symbol of courage. It then occurred to me, when they were saying they were redskins, or red men, they were referring to their inner character, they were red or courageous men. In looking at the meaning of colors to native peoples could it also be said that a dark skin, or a black skin, was someone who led a physical (rather than spiritual) life?
The colors and symbolism of the Medicine Wheel also represent the four qualities of a balanced life:
The Spiritual life is represented by the color red
Emotional life is represented by yellow
The Physical life is represented by black
The Intellect is represented by white
I love this! There is so much of native culture that I wish I knew--I'm sure it's full of fascinating insights like the one you shared. Such a beautiful parallel to the verse in Luke 2 about Jesus growing in "wisdom, and in stature, and in favor with God and man." Thank you for enlightening me!
Thanks so much for explaining the curse vs. the mark! I've had a hard time understanding that concept even when studying great explanations from others. But something about the way you explained it seemed to click for me better. It feels true!
I'm so glad it was helpful. Definitely a tricky subject, and there are other helpful ways to look at it as well (some even wondering if the mark was even literal at all, but more figurative and metaphoric instead), but it's helped me to keep them separate in my head, as the Book of Mormon writers seemed to be doing. Thanks for tuning in!
I remember when one lady told me that dark people are not as good in God’s eyes. This was in 2017 when I was an investigator. Im glad I dismissed this person, I just couldn’t believe God didn’t love me after he made me this way (I’m Mexican). Thank you so much for another excellent lesson. Look forward for another lesson next week 😀
I'm glad you dismissed that hurtful comment as well! I wonder if she would have said the same thing to Samuel the Lamanite or the Anti-Nephi-Lehies :) I'm grateful that Heavenly Father is color blind! Thank you for tuning in, and for sharing your thoughts!
I am so grateful these lessons are here to refer to and go through again and again. I love that I can share them with my family as well. You are ONE amazing, gifted teacher!! All the effort you put into these videos are appreciated and more helpful than you will ever know. Your testimony at the end of this lesson had me feeling the spirit more than anything. Thank you Brother Halverson for sharing your testimony and knowledge of the Gospel with us. I feel so blessed have these lessons ❤️ P.S. My daughter is going to school at Ensign College. Is there a way she can come to your institute class or does she have to be a U of U student?
Thank you so much for the lesson, but most of all for your testimony of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
I'm grateful to be able to bear it. Thank you for receiving it in the spirit in which it is given--which speaks to your testimony as well. I'm grateful we can share in that witness of Truth!
I love your classes! I feel the spirit flow from the words of God as you speak! Thank you from helping grow my testimony and open the doors of understanding!
I'm so grateful these lessons have been a blessing to you. It's a privilege to be a part of your scripture study!
Thank you so much for this clear and concise interpretation of the curse. It left me awestruck. I sincerely appreciate you creating this channel and for your discourses on the scriptures. You are hands down, the best gospel teacher I've ever listened to. The way you breakdown the scriptures and the explanations and parallels you present have turned on such a bright light and thirst for truth inside my mind, heart, and soul. I feel close to our Book of Mormon prophets and to this history more so now than ever before. As you share your knowledge, I see the many parallels in our society and in the church in these last days that I never deciphered before. You are truly gifted of our Father in Heaven. I'm so thankful He has called you to speak with the Spirit and bring the scriptures to life and to give us the knowledge we desperately need to stay strong, faithful, and educated in these most trying times. God bless you. ♥
Thank you for your kind and generous words. I'm so grateful that the Book of Mormon is coming to life for you. President Benson was right: a power does flow into us the moment we begin a serious study of the book. I'm honored to be a part of your study!
Thank you again for another great lesson. I really enjoy how you teach The Book of Mormon.
Thank you so much. It's a privilege to be a part of your scripture study!
Thank you brother Halverson for providing these lessons for the “rest of us”! It’s one of the silver linings of the “Corona effect” that we get to hear and feel what you teach in your classes. I must say that the music you use at the closing is perfect... encouraging me to continue my contemplation of your thoughts. Again, thank you.
Thank you for your kindness. I'm grateful I get to be a part of your scripture study for the week!
I'm greatful you chose to teach for God over engineering, he's building you into a 🕍 instead of a 🏡, in the process of all your sacrafices, for your children to live with you in the next, in his courtyard of his kingdom. Your saving souls through doing his great work among mankind. So great will be your mansions
Thank you so much for your kind words. It's an honor to be involved in God's work in any way. And thank you for going back to watch some of these older Book of Mormon videos! The audio and video aren't as good, but the scriptures are so powerful!
I liked your use of changed polarity as a simile of the change of heart.
You helped inspire it, so thank YOU!
Aren’t these reading freakishly relevant to current events?
No doubt! One of my favorite things about scripture is its "perpetual relevance"!
Thank you for hanging up your cleats and taking off your hat as an engineer!
Grateful for the weekly in depth lessons with you.
Please know how much you have influenced and increased my desire to understand the Book of Mormon more. Faafetai tele lava!
E te talia lava! (I really hope that means "You're very welcome"! I'm at the mercy of Google translate!) Thank you for your kind words. I'm grateful you're enjoying the lessons. It's always a blessing to be able to study the Book of Mormon together!
Thank you for sharing so much in teaching me the Book of Mormon. I value your teachings and I understand and gain a stronger testimony of the Book of Mormon. I am indeed grateful for your testimony. I look forward to learn more from you Brother Halverson
Thank you for your kind words! It's a privilege to be able to study the scriptures with you. Thank you for tuning in!
Thank you for sharing these lessons. They are really helping me to study and love the Come Follow Me teachings, and to get to know the people from the book of Mormon as real people.
I'm so grateful that's happening for you! It's a blessing to be able to study together!
I have been reviewing your lessons again and what a beautiful clarifying lesson about " the Mark". As a person of color or African descent, I am sensitive about sharing the BOM with my friends of color as a result of some of our history and former teaching, bam on the preisthood etc. what a beautiful lesson to share with my family and friends . Thank you, Bro. Halverson!
Thank you Brother Halverson for choosing the profession you did, my understanding of the gospel has grown exponentially since these videos and I'm so grateful for the time you take to do them.
I am so thankful for your teachings as I am trying so hard to make my way back to church. If you only had an idea the impact of your teaching are making in my life. How thankful I am for your spiritual soul and the difference you are making not only to me but I believe to so many people. Thank you so much ☺️
Thank you for wantingto teach the gosple!! Your a blessing!!
Thank you for choosing your vocation. I am greatly benefiting from your lessons!
I thank the Lord that you have done these lessons, and have seen fit to keep them up for people like me that have so much difficulty understanding the scriptures. Thank you for the time you have taken to impart this wisdom.
I love your videos! I feel like I am back at BYU listening to a professor speak while I scrub bathrooms, cook dinners, and fold laundry. :) I learned a new way to describe the pride cycle that I am going to share with my children.
Those were the days! I'm glad I get to be one of your companion students in the scriptures. So much to find there!
Very well done good job
Thank you! I'm grateful to be a part of your scripture study!
My goodness you are a wonderful teacher, I’ve been Baptised 13 years, read the Book of Mormon quite a lot, I’m so glad you cleared up the ‘curse the mark’. We are all Gods children, he isn’t bothered what skin colour we have or how we look. He is interest in how we want to be like him. He try’s constantly to teach us in simple ways, so we don’t miss understand. Like our own parents teach us not to run into the road because they don’t want us to get run over, they don’t want us to suffer, unnecessarily, neither does God. Our lives are so much better with him in it. Following in Jesus’s foot steps. I love being a Latter Day Saint. Thank you for making it even clearer. I’m so glad you chose to teach rather than to be an engineer. I’m over in the UK and listening to your testimony made me cry because spirit was saying that what you did and chose to be was the right choice. Thank you for doing these lessons, whilst in lockdown it has been hard not been allowed out since beginning of March, you have lifted my spirits so much. Looking forward to your next lesson.
What a beautiful summary of what I was hoping to teach! Thanks for being such a good student :) I'm grateful these lessons are helping the power and beauty of the gospel shine through. The Book of Mormon is full of so many powerful principles!
Wow I just started watching your videos and let me tell you I am very impressed at the way you teach the book of Mormon....I always had a hard time reading it and understanding what I read but you explained it so much better that I can grasp the message I'm supposed to get in these scriptures namely because I am from Honduras and dark skin and when I read this my self I thought I was cursed because of the color of my skin and when I was given my patriartical blessing it say I was from Ephraim's tribe......thank you so much for clarifying the curse vs a mark!
Bienvenido mi hermano! Quizas fue mi mision (en Puerto Rico) que me convencio que los hispanohablantes son un pueblo escojigo, con un pasado milagroso y un futuro glorioso. I'm grateful for a Father in Heaven who is color-blind, and who looks far deeper into each of us than we usually look into each other. Thank you for watching!
Thank you, thank you! Your purpose in teaching is being fulfilled! I enjoy studying with you! Thank you for bringing the spirit and knowledge and even humor into these gospel studies . Thank you for reminding me of how it is to have the spirit with me while I study. Thank you💚
I'm so grateful you've found these lessons to be a blessing! I'll do my best to keep it that way :) Thank you for watching!
I am posting this on my wife's account. We were watching this video today as a family and really appreciated your approach to this. This topic has been one I have contemplated for many years. Conversations with friends and others have taken a difficult road as I have tried to find an explanation that was suitable enough to approach.
Your explanation on this really spoke to me and I feel is the most correct version I have heard. With the events of the past few days, I have been heart broken as the world has seen what happens when you push God out of your daily life.
We continued the conversation as a family and gained a greater understanding of the Lords approach to the matter of the Lamanite curse. I always felt, and have known that there was a higher explanation than what I have learned in the past and feel to be able to articulate with greater depth and understanding. Thank you for sharing.
Robert Wilhelm
Thank you for your kind and thoughtful words. I agree that current events have pushed these kinds of concepts to the forefront, and we all need to do better at bringing God--and our neighbor--more fully into our lives. I'm grateful you found this helpful. Thank you for the privilege of joining your family for scripture study!
Once again thank you so much for your lessons. I get so much out of them. I especially want to thank you for your testimony and sincerity. Your testimony touched my soul. Thank you so much. You definitely are doing what the Lord meant for you to do and we are blessed by your decision.
Thank you for your kind and thoughtful words. I'm grateful for the things the Lord has allowed me to feel through His Spirit. And I'm thankful that we "resonate" on the same "frequency"!
Thank you for your courage to accept the call of teaching, rather than the other hats you could have worn! You make such a difference in my thinking and dealing with the world at hand. You are a mighty teacher who has softened my heart and soul.
Thank you for your kind words. I'm grateful the Lord allows me to speak of Him with people who love Him as well. It's a blessing to be a part of your scripture study!
Thankyou Jared for your sharing of faith and knowledge of gospel truths which bring such joy and peace.
It's my pleasure! I'm grateful these lessons have been a blessing to you. It's a privilege to be a part of your scripture study!
I love your testimony at the end, I was an early morning seminary teacher for 5 years and I am so grateful in how it changed me for the better. Thank you.
I'm convinced there's a special place in the celestial kingdom for early morning seminary teachers! I was an early morning student myself and I'm so grateful for the influence my teachers had on me!
I’m thankful that you chose to teach...you are teaching me greater light to things I only thought I knew. Thank you brother...I love the truth, and I feel it from your heart...Your Brother in the Lord😇
Very interesting discussion. Sent you a DM about the "blessing side of the mark" I would love to discuss some day. Rob B.
I love the way you are teaching.. I am so grateful for that. But I have a concern... you said something about the curse. How many curses are in the scriptures? I really need to know.
Thank you so much. I'm grateful you're enjoying the lessons. The scriptures speak of many different "curses" but I really do think they're all simply sub-headings under the one ultimate curse we discussed in this lesson--being separated from God. If life eternal is to know God (John 17:3) and to be with Him and like Him, then the ultimate curse--damnation itself--is not knowing Him, not being with Him or like Him. If Christ came to bring us into at-one-ment with Him, then the opposite of that is the worst imaginable curse.
Unshaken In my Patriarchal Blessing said that I would help people to overcome “this kind of curse”... that’s it. I really don’t know what that means. It’s nothing before that that can help me to discover the meaning... no clue.
@@mariagil9742 Very interesting! Without more context, it's hard to know exactly what the Lord intended with that phrase, but helping people overcome their separation from God is the ultimate mission in life! You may want to search for the word "curse" every time it appears in scripture, and then study all of those verses with your mind open to the Spirit's impressions. It may give you insight from the same Source that prompted the patriarch in the first place. After all, you have access to the same Spirit that he did!
Unshaken thanks a lot!!! That’s mean a lot to me.
@@mariagil9742 You're welcome! You're worth it!
Thank you so much for sharing that persons comment about the pride cycle ! Such a wonderful perspective !
Could you also share what that other student taught you about the atonement?:)
It was a much longer explanation, but it was about Christ going through the experience of each person in the Garden of Gethsemane (the "intimate" that goes along with the "infinite"), coupled with the verse from Matthew 25 about "when you have done it unto the least of these my brethren, you have done it unto me." The thought was that as Christ experienced all the sin and suffering of humanity, He must have also felt what people had done for those during such times--He must have felt the good things that people do and not just the bad things. And in seeing/feeling/experiencing what people had done for others, He would have seen it as being done for Him. So in a way, we were a source of strength and support for Jesus in Gethsemane, not just a source of pain and anguish. In that way, we did "watch with Him one hour," as if we joined the angel is strengthening Him. Beautiful thoughts!
Thank you for another beautiful lesson... also you may want to add a disclaimer... class goes for 45mins ISH... 😂. I keep taking about 2 hours to listen to each of your classes 🤦♀️. Don’t get me wrong! I am LOVING IT!! and feeling blessed that I can! Just keep wanting to break them up but can’t bring myself to hit that stop button😍. THANK YOU!!!!
Haha! Sorry for the length, but I'm like you--I can't seem to stop either! :) I'm working on trimming things down a bit, but we'll see how successful I am at that. Thanks for sticking with me!
Unshaken Oh NO!! Don’t you shorten anything!!! I just get so engrossed in your lessons that I can’t stop and it gets me thinking and searching... no please I am being very selfish here but please continue what you’re doing!!!!
@@ccmars9315 Haha! It's a goal, but we'll have to wait and see if I get there :)
@@Unshaken Agree, don't cut these down in length overall. So rare an opportunity to listen to a lecture that goes "as long as needed".
@@rbirkz Thank you so much for that encouragement--I really appreciate it! And I agree. As a teacher, the clock is my worst enemy, and I've enjoyed the chance to talk about each verse as much as possible (I'd actually love to do much more!). I'm just learning how long it takes to film and edit each video, and I'd love to make this sustainable and still have time to meet life's other demands--especially after the pandemic is over and additional responsibilities return. I'm praying to find a happy medium! But again, thank you for your gospel hunger! You're just the type of student that every teacher dreams of!
Hey question... I heard that most African people never used to get their lineage declared in their Patriarchal blessing. Have you heard this before?? Is this true?? Where can I find more about it if true?? Not relevant to my Eternal Salvation - just interested... so no big deal if I can’t find it!!
I haven't heard that. I can't see why anyone would be withheld a Patriarchal blessing or a declaration of lineage, since those don't have to do with the priesthood (only the tribe of Levi is specifically priesthood-related anyway and the vast majority of Church members in any area are not from the tribe of Levi). A friend in my ward was a senior medical missionary in Africa several years ago and he also happens to be an ordained patriarch. He was given permission during his mission to give patriarchal blessings to local members throughout the countries he served, whenever he was out meeting the missionaries' medical needs. His stories are amazing--and many, many different tribes of Israel were represented in the people to whom he gave patriarchal blessings. The Gathering is definitely taking place, all across the earth!
Unshaken THANK YOU FOR THAT!!!! And yes I remember Sis Nelson’s story about the meeting she was in and asking the sisters what tribe they were... all were represented but one. But that same afternoon she flew to another meeting and in that mission there was a missionary from Dan (I think it was?) which was the only tribe that hadn’t been represented that morning. And Brad Wilcox also talks about his experience in the MTC in Africa? Same... all the tribes represented.
@@ccmars9315 One big happy family--all over the world!
My wife and I are in one tribe, we have a son who is in another. Lineage is not necessarily genetic.
Very true! President Faust mentioned that in a talk he gave on patriarchal blessings. Here's a link to it: speeches.byu.edu/talks/james-e-faust/patriarchal-blessings/
You delivered another great presentation. However, at the
3:52 mark, you display a battle scene depicting an Aztec club imbedded with obsidian. This is another attempt to promote the Mesoamerican model of Book of Mormon Geography. Please find neutral artwork for future presentations.
No attempt to promote any particular model on my end. Just hoping to break up the endless visual of my face (which doesn't look very good in any geography!). I'd love to see all kinds of additional artwork created for the scriptures; I just don't have the ability to do that. Either way, the visuals are merely meant to aid in imagining, not to convey scientific information--kind of like Arnold Friberg said of his Book of Mormon paintings. If their ahistoricity gets in the way of the doctrinal and spiritual message of these Book of Mormon lessons, listening instead of watching might be the best bet! Thanks again!