Thanks for a great video. What you need to bear in mind is that RS Cosworths and XR4s were looked after and therefore there will be many more of these around. After a while, nobody would have taken care of a 1.6L and as such, most were scrapped so having a good one of these may possibly be quite rare. Personally, I think just as much of a lower spec original car as I do a higher spec for this reason.
My first motor after coming out the raf in 93. Full ignition system , cooling system , exhaust, new headlamps , valves set. Gaskets replaced. Then passed its mot straight after. Fitst time I'd done it. Some good ole Avon firestone boots on it. It lasted years , never broke down, never failed an mot.
The gap in the dash varied from model to model but being early and an "L" it will defo of had an analogue style clock there and probably just a gap/small shelf/cubby hole, since you have tape holders at the bottom
@@MrChris1316 it's still a mk1 though, headrests look right for a mk1 " L " that age to me, mk2 obv saw a fair few trim type changes as well as exterior ones but that didn't come out mid 87 ( D reg)
@@MrChris1316nope,its a L trim.i had a GL,mine had much plusher seats,full centre console with armrest and a plusher wheel,plus it had the analogue clock and clean hands warning system.i love sierras.my 1st was a y reg 1.6 gl,very early one.was only 5 years old when i had it.forest metallic green with 2 tone brown interior.
I agree. The VV gives good fuel economy if working perfectly. But on the other hand, a Weber is simpler and parts are easier to find. Getting gaskets for a VV will not be a problem, but the big vacuum diafragram is a lot harder to find these days.
I left school in 1990 & spent 5yrs in a Ford main dealer (3yr apprenticeship) cut my teeth on these Sierra’s, Escorts, Fiesta’s etc. Moved on to various inc Mercs.., I completed 25yrs then jacked it all in & took HGV which I drive for a living now!. Enjoy it all mate because when you look back you realise it’s true that time really does fly (child of the 70’s/80’s speaking there!, I remember being told it by some middle aged geezer!, he was right!) it was great to see you and your mates freeing that old dinosaur and having a laugh!, it’s what we did back in the day! 😂👍 btw, definitely change that VV carb for a Weber.., I have fitted endless amounts of VV overhaul kits to them, IMO they are crap!, but obviously ok if maintained correctly & you are after grandad performance (which I would be now!)😂👍
The FIRST thing you do with seized engines, is to put a crowbar on the cogs of the flywheel - because that‘ll give you far more leverage and control than on the pully nut. Or you can pump it on a starter - but that can destroy the teeth. It‘s also basic to apply some heat to seized engines. Good luck.
Had loads of these back in the day, they was cheap run arounds, was never desirable cars but brings back memories seeing one again. The hole in the dash was for some sort of tray thing, had a clock in it and some lights for temp oil pressure etc if I remember right.
Josh, that head lying on the floor in the “barn” will have the bent valves at a guess (I’m also guessing you brought it back so you can check) the head on the engine will have straight valves as it will be a replacement so that’s the head worth renovating. Just for the record I de seized many an engine using a lump hammer and 3x2 back in the day and I’m surprised you didn’t attempt it before pulling the lump out 😀👍
The rings will also be seized/stuck into the piston ring lands. You will need to pull the pistons out and clean/free them off. The con rod bolts may be use once only on this gen Pinto. But the 1600 on a VV was quite a decent engine. Not as powerful as the 2000 but much sweeter. That's a Type 3 four speedo gearbox as well, a very good unit.
That gap would house an analogue clock on an L trim with a cubby next to it with slots for cassettes. If it was a Base trim it wouldnt even have a clock. Higher trim levels in the early cars,GL and above had a row of extra warning lights at the top for screen wash and other bits,the Ghia would have had a digital clock and an outline of the car next to it with door open warnings,headlight,tail and brake light bulb failure warning and ice warning. Early Ghia and XR4 models also had a different grille with separate dip and main bulbs as well as different style bumper with fog lights lower down with larger indicators next to them. Later cars,E plate on I think when facelift came about all had a digital clock except for the diesels which had an analogue clock with a glow plug light above the clock. Later diesels all had the sapphire style grille too. Random ford knowledge from growing up with numerous bangers out the admag!
As I said in my comment it will just have had a plain cubby hole there as his car has the tape holders ( pop drawers) at the bottom behind the gear lever , you don't get the tape slots beside the clock if those are fitted :) and cars like sapphire Cosworth ( still miss mine :( ) would have had what you described above for ghias :) facelift mk2 came out mid 87 on a late D reg :)
Stumbled across your sierra whilst looking through other ford builds. And enjoyed the rescue so I've subscribed and looking forward to your progress with it nice to put an old ford back on the road great content fella
Stumbled across your channel due to the Sierra but also loving that Mazda. On the Sierra, Personally I’d bin the 1600 and put a 2 litre in. The 2 litre pinto is a good starting point for a nice tuneable engine.
Booh! Boooooohhhh!!! The 1.6 feels much more lively. 2.0 have higher stroke, so good low torque, but feels dead in high rpm. The 1.6 is the opposite. A bit less low down torque, but feels more lively in the higher rpm... I have driven Cortina and Sierra with 1.6 and 2.0 with Weber 32/36 carb on, allways preferred the 1.6. Also better fuel economy with a 1.6. The 1.6 is underrated and the 2.0 overrated. Same with the gearboxes. Everyone yelling "put a Sierra 5 speed in youre Cortina!" Those 5 speed boxes dont shift as smooth as the 4 speed. A 4 speed shifts with a touch of youre pink. The 5 speeds all feel so cluttered.
@@BITTYBOY121 good god no, the 1.8 CVH ain't that great tbh, 1.3,1.4,1.6 CVH in escorts and fiestas etc were fine but 1.8 in sierra was all about economy, quite low compression and felt really flat, few guys used to use the blocks as a route to a cc increase in Escort RS turbos though, but that was short lived as when zetec engines came along and the "ZVH" (Zee VH) became the route to more capacity. Both the 1.6 and 2.0 pinto engines are far superior in this particular application.
@@BITTYBOY121 ah yeah of course, gotcha, 1.8 pinto was a pretty poor engine too, it was just sort of meh, not responsive like 1.6 and not torquey like 2.0, just meh 😂 no wonder it was short lived and only ever in one model
It's great to see OG block to see fighting another day. I'm looking forward to seeing it back together. And that hole in the dash is for analog clock and tape storage spaces
Well done! When I saw the water sitting in the head in your first video I thought it would be completely toasted, good on you for persevering. I rekon go full restoration on that engine now the block is salvageable, you have come this far... The love has set in...Blow it apart, take it to an automotive machine shop to hone the bores, skim the head, hone the crank, new pistons and rings (find manuaul on the dark art of piston ring gapping 😂) - new heads and all the trimmings! Do full resto and metal seal on car, love it, build a dry shed for it, start it once a week for the next 20 years, take it to meets, become a Ford guy and go on honey moon in it - you know you want to 😁🤩 Lol, I restored and then years later turbo charged a Mk1 Nissan Almera I found at the back of a scrap yard with a broken gear box and a blown head gasket. Its a completely senseless addiction. Currently parked after cylinder 1's tiny crack that would huff a little water vapour on start up for years but held together is now fully gone 😢 Full rebuild time 😊
With how far you've taken it apart, the risk of stuck rings and the bore damage, i honestly think finding a whole new engine will avoid you needing to pay that money into a skim if you're thinking of getting a new head anyway, that could just go towards a drop in engine, you'll probs get a clutch and flywheel assembly, better condition carb, so you can swab bits n bobs and the old bits can be weighed and some bits kept :)
Good video pace, background music is set nicely not too in your face. Looking forward to the series and to see what happens with this beauty. Honestly can't wait to see it detailed.
Congratulations, you finally got that thing turning. Love the Sierra. You just got a new subscriber, haha! Also, love the Prelude in the background. Had one just like it, but brown. Cheers!
Put some new valve guide seals on the guides. For this you need to take out the valves, obviously. But it then gives you the perfect opportunity to check for bent valves (put then in a drill. Let the drill spin the valve and then you can see if it is out of wack or still true. When putting them back in you can inspect the seats and maybe lap those valves in for a perfect seal. IMO the cylinder head is the heart of an engine. The more attention you give it to make it perfect, the better the engine will run once it's back together.
I would beforehand do 2 things 1. remove the cam oil feed pipe and retaining bolts and put them somewhere very safe 2. clean the combustion chambers and check for any visible cracks from memory I am sure pinto's used to crack between the valves when the engine has been frozen highly likely given the circumstances oh and 3. the sump is full of water 😉🤣
Additional information after hearing your clutch / flywheel comment: Clutch stack height could be incorrect, and clutch pressure plate could be fouling the bell housing. I’d be inclined to slacken the belhousing bolts, crack it open a tad, then try turning the engine once more.
muff the 'numbers matching' crowd. like you said - it is what it is. Personally, i would do whatever you like with the engine, do some OE+ uprgades, alloys? fog lights? maybe a mod-con or two, new speakers and a useable carplay head unit, led conversion for all the lights? could be a nice daily!
Brilliant m8.. Pre 2000 builds is what we have missed.. Keep it up.pal....remember if u need anything let us know I'm up north wales any parts we have a lot. Of pre 2000 cars especially the ford's. Mike
Mate here's what I'd do with this engine. I'd keep it strip it down clean it up with some serious chemical usage remove any of the rust. It will clean up I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the results.
1.6 is a non interference engine, the valves cannot strike the pistons even if the cambelt snaps. There’s something else going on there. I know as a sierra 2 door owner for 10 years, and a 25 year time severd mechanic 😊. I’m little Johnny no it all😂.
My dad had the same car back in the 80's. Same year as well. I rememeber him moaning about it having the incorrect carb on it. Used to struggle to get up the hill on to our estate.
Cambelt failure, the 2.0 pinto wont contact the valves, hence they got another cylinder head because they got bent, top tip for breaking engine free is rocking the car back and forth in 3rd or 4th.
I kept shouting at the phone "it's the piston rings rusted to the cylinders" it happens a lot. Glad you got it freed. But frankly it would be more cost effective to drop in a replacement engine.
I would just the head you took off checked and rebuilt, saves you messing about trying to find another one. Plus you can do some upgrades to it if you wanted, as i know these engines are tuneable. The bottom end id check over as you say, with it been sitting for that long, plus if its been stolen in the past, god knows what ride its had. See if there are some old school yards about, that have these in still, you may need to travel though, so you can get the bits and pieces. You maybe lucky you may find one that age still in a yard. Look in fast ford mags etc. As i am sure there was a sierra breaker in a mag i read some year ago, and the owners clubs.
On a base model 1.6 it's most likely just a pocket in the dash, might be a clock and pocket if it's a gl. The cam belt not being tight is not an issue as pinto is a non interference engine, meaning you can snap the belt and just bung a new one on it'll run fine, the reason the chap didn't get it running is likely because the timing is out. I'm 10 mins into the vid and will keep watching and point anything else out I can to help
As for the head and cam just clean it up a best you can and reuse. I wouldn't bother replacing anything other than the gaskets unless your plan is to keep the thing, it's gonna smoke like a bus when it run do the the rings beinh stuck in the ring lands anyways so that engine will need rebuilding. Even with a pitted cam it'll run, use some high zinc oil and it'll be fine.
That part that is missing is a clock and cassette holder and to say if that car is up and running with a very good underbody with a MOT you can get a good price for it
this car is something i wish we had here in the states i mean we had something similar it was known as the ford tempo but they really were not the same car the body was slightly different and the engine spec was different i don’t think i ever saw a manual transmission equipped model even though they were available as the automatic is a lot more common here the cool thing i found interesting was all wheel drive was a option i was not aware of this an that was definitely something you didn’t see at the time i wonder if the Sierra had similar options i honestly don’t know much about the car because by the time i started driving these cars were just not around anymore as the rust problems was horrible and killed them however a nabor of mine had a tempo it was an interesting car and it had a much larger engine at 2.3L so definitely a different car compared but ford used a real similar body design for the tempo however i prefer the Sierra it would be interesting to know if you could fit the larger engine in to the Sierra as the cars configuration is so similar i would think it would work in the car with no need for modifications as they used a few different engines in the tempo including a Mazda made diesel the larger engine definitely would be a nice bump in power it’s honestly a bummer you have to replace the engine as it’s a really nice vehicle for its age what a good find i hope you get it fixed soon and back on the road it looks like it will be a good car
The Weber Manual Choke kit was much better than the automatic choke VV carb. "WEBER 34 ICH" if memory serves me right. That car cleaned out and cleaned up will be very desireable. Tbh getting that engine/box out is the best idea i saw. now you can pressure wash the engine/bay etc :-) check the big end bearings. the gearbox oil looked delicous like a glass and a half kind (chocolate) LOL :-) i love this. its bringing back so many memories of my mum and dad's Sierra's which i mentioned in the 1st video 1985 1.8 L 5 speed. 1983 2.0 GL 4 Speed.
these engines are notorious for locking up if left to sit for a while they are also non interferance engines the valves do not hit the pistons if the timing jumps or the belt breaks but if i were you i would do the valve stem oil seals they will be goosed they smoke like fook when starting due to this fault best of luck with this its worth doing
If you got a blow torch gently heat the head were the pistons are and use a rubber mallet and hit the top off the pistons the rings are stuck to the boar that is why you cannot turn over the engine.
That Sierra is the same as a Merkur XR4TI that Ford sent to the US in the late 80's so watching a 4 door non turbo 2.3 being messed with is interesting to me as I have a 1992 Ford Ranger that has the same engine so I'm going to watch all you post 🙂
also the head is cast steel it will not require skimming you are working on old school 1970's engine first used in 1971 or thereabouts like i said before they are non interferance heads strip it fit a new cam kit and stem seals it will be good to go
I would see money wise wat to do rebuild that engine or buy another one? as the 16 pinto will be cheap as everyone uses the the 20 pinto more but good to see you got it tunning over after all that
I love how Ford got away with using world war 2 engines in their cars, I remember the cam knocking on the cortina’s and sierras back in the day, oil starvation was the prognosis, crap cars. Great channel though, very informative.
Thanks for a great video. What you need to bear in mind is that RS Cosworths and XR4s were looked after and therefore there will be many more of these around. After a while, nobody would have taken care of a 1.6L and as such, most were scrapped so having a good one of these may possibly be quite rare. Personally, I think just as much of a lower spec original car as I do a higher spec for this reason.
My first motor after coming out the raf in 93. Full ignition system , cooling system , exhaust, new headlamps , valves set. Gaskets replaced. Then passed its mot straight after. Fitst time I'd done it. Some good ole Avon firestone boots on it. It lasted years , never broke down, never failed an mot.
The gap in the dash varied from model to model but being early and an "L" it will defo of had an analogue style clock there and probably just a gap/small shelf/cubby hole, since you have tape holders at the bottom
In black i assume! doubt it would be brown (like the dash)
I think it's a gl,the headrests are gl spec and they came out on a y reg so it's a bit later
@@Joshwaa___ yeah just black
@@MrChris1316 it's still a mk1 though, headrests look right for a mk1 " L " that age to me, mk2 obv saw a fair few trim type changes as well as exterior ones but that didn't come out mid 87 ( D reg)
@@MrChris1316nope,its a L trim.i had a GL,mine had much plusher seats,full centre console with armrest and a plusher wheel,plus it had the analogue clock and clean hands warning system.i love sierras.my 1st was a y reg 1.6 gl,very early one.was only 5 years old when i had it.forest metallic green with 2 tone brown interior.
The Ford VV carb will be fine with a clean and a new diaphragm kit. They were not as bad as many make out - I was fixing them 30-40 years ago.
I agree. The VV gives good fuel economy if working perfectly. But on the other hand, a Weber is simpler and parts are easier to find.
Getting gaskets for a VV will not be a problem, but the big vacuum diafragram is a lot harder to find these days.
I left school in 1990 & spent 5yrs in a Ford main dealer (3yr apprenticeship) cut my teeth on these Sierra’s, Escorts, Fiesta’s etc. Moved on to various inc Mercs.., I completed 25yrs then jacked it all in & took HGV which I drive for a living now!. Enjoy it all mate because when you look back you realise it’s true that time really does fly (child of the 70’s/80’s speaking there!, I remember being told it by some middle aged geezer!, he was right!) it was great to see you and your mates freeing that old dinosaur and having a laugh!, it’s what we did back in the day! 😂👍 btw, definitely change that VV carb for a Weber.., I have fitted endless amounts of VV overhaul kits to them, IMO they are crap!, but obviously ok if maintained correctly & you are after grandad performance (which I would be now!)😂👍
haha thanks!!! i’ve got a new carb to replace the VV!!
The FIRST thing you do with seized engines, is to put a crowbar on the cogs of the flywheel - because that‘ll give you far more leverage and control than on the pully nut. Or you can pump it on a starter - but that can destroy the teeth. It‘s also basic to apply some heat to seized engines. Good luck.
If an engine is seized it needs a rebuild anyway imo.
Had loads of these back in the day, they was cheap run arounds, was never desirable cars but brings back memories seeing one again.
The hole in the dash was for some sort of tray thing, had a clock in it and some lights for temp oil pressure etc if I remember right.
Josh, that head lying on the floor in the “barn” will have the bent valves at a guess (I’m also guessing you brought it back so you can check) the head on the engine will have straight valves as it will be a replacement so that’s the head worth renovating. Just for the record I de seized many an engine using a lump hammer and 3x2 back in the day and I’m surprised you didn’t attempt it before pulling the lump out 😀👍
This is actually the opposite way round unfortunately, i did check!
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The algorithm brought me to the first Sierra video and I'm glad it did! Subscribed and can't wait to see the progress.
awesome ! hope to see you stick around!
The rings will also be seized/stuck into the piston ring lands. You will need to pull the pistons out and clean/free them off. The con rod bolts may be use once only on this gen Pinto. But the 1600 on a VV was quite a decent engine. Not as powerful as the 2000 but much sweeter. That's a Type 3 four speedo gearbox as well, a very good unit.
❤ yes not just me thinking it then 😂😂
That gap would house an analogue clock on an L trim with a cubby next to it with slots for cassettes. If it was a Base trim it wouldnt even have a clock. Higher trim levels in the early cars,GL and above had a row of extra warning lights at the top for screen wash and other bits,the Ghia would have had a digital clock and an outline of the car next to it with door open warnings,headlight,tail and brake light bulb failure warning and ice warning. Early Ghia and XR4 models also had a different grille with separate dip and main bulbs as well as different style bumper with fog lights lower down with larger indicators next to them. Later cars,E plate on I think when facelift came about all had a digital clock except for the diesels which had an analogue clock with a glow plug light above the clock. Later diesels all had the sapphire style grille too. Random ford knowledge from growing up with numerous bangers out the admag!
As I said in my comment it will just have had a plain cubby hole there as his car has the tape holders ( pop drawers) at the bottom behind the gear lever , you don't get the tape slots beside the clock if those are fitted :) and cars like sapphire Cosworth ( still miss mine :( ) would have had what you described above for ghias :) facelift mk2 came out mid 87 on a late D reg :)
Such a good channel. This is gonna fly, keep it up Josh! Great work
thanks !!
Give this Sierra some love Josh, it's a solid reliable car, it won't dissapoint you.
Regards from Buenos Aires.
i’m planning on it!
@@Joshwaa___ 👍👍
Stumbled across your sierra whilst looking through other ford builds. And enjoyed the rescue so I've subscribed and looking forward to your progress with it nice to put an old ford back on the road great content fella
Came across your channel through this Sierra. Enjoying watching your journey with this car.
That sierra just looks better every time i see it.
I'd love to see it kept as original as possible. Enjoying your vids.
Stumbled across your channel due to the Sierra but also loving that Mazda. On the Sierra, Personally I’d bin the 1600 and put a 2 litre in. The 2 litre pinto is a good starting point for a nice tuneable engine.
Booh! Boooooohhhh!!!
The 1.6 feels much more lively. 2.0 have higher stroke, so good low torque, but feels dead in high rpm.
The 1.6 is the opposite. A bit less low down torque, but feels more lively in the higher rpm...
I have driven Cortina and Sierra with 1.6 and 2.0 with Weber 32/36 carb on, allways preferred the 1.6. Also better fuel economy with a 1.6.
The 1.6 is underrated and the 2.0 overrated. Same with the gearboxes. Everyone yelling "put a Sierra 5 speed in youre Cortina!" Those 5 speed boxes dont shift as smooth as the 4 speed. A 4 speed shifts with a touch of youre pink. The 5 speeds all feel so cluttered.
@@taunus1990 I guess the 1.8 L has the best of both worlds ?
@@BITTYBOY121 good god no, the 1.8 CVH ain't that great tbh, 1.3,1.4,1.6 CVH in escorts and fiestas etc were fine but 1.8 in sierra was all about economy, quite low compression and felt really flat, few guys used to use the blocks as a route to a cc increase in Escort RS turbos though, but that was short lived as when zetec engines came along and the "ZVH" (Zee VH) became the route to more capacity. Both the 1.6 and 2.0 pinto engines are far superior in this particular application.
@@gimble447 I was thinking of the earlier non CVH 1.8's but I get your point...
@@BITTYBOY121 ah yeah of course, gotcha, 1.8 pinto was a pretty poor engine too, it was just sort of meh, not responsive like 1.6 and not torquey like 2.0, just meh 😂 no wonder it was short lived and only ever in one model
It's great to see OG block to see fighting another day. I'm looking forward to seeing it back together. And that hole in the dash is for analog clock and tape storage spaces
Well done! When I saw the water sitting in the head in your first video I thought it would be completely toasted, good on you for persevering. I rekon go full restoration on that engine now the block is salvageable, you have come this far... The love has set in...Blow it apart, take it to an automotive machine shop to hone the bores, skim the head, hone the crank, new pistons and rings (find manuaul on the dark art of piston ring gapping 😂) - new heads and all the trimmings! Do full resto and metal seal on car, love it, build a dry shed for it, start it once a week for the next 20 years, take it to meets, become a Ford guy and go on honey moon in it - you know you want to 😁🤩 Lol, I restored and then years later turbo charged a Mk1 Nissan Almera I found at the back of a scrap yard with a broken gear box and a blown head gasket. Its a completely senseless addiction. Currently parked after cylinder 1's tiny crack that would huff a little water vapour on start up for years but held together is now fully gone 😢 Full rebuild time 😊
With how far you've taken it apart, the risk of stuck rings and the bore damage, i honestly think finding a whole new engine will avoid you needing to pay that money into a skim if you're thinking of getting a new head anyway, that could just go towards a drop in engine, you'll probs get a clutch and flywheel assembly, better condition carb, so you can swab bits n bobs and the old bits can be weighed and some bits kept :)
One on ebay there for 350 quid, might be an easy fix for the car, all depends on what route he wants to take.
Looking forward to see it clean
Good video pace, background music is set nicely not too in your face. Looking forward to the series and to see what happens with this beauty. Honestly can't wait to see it detailed.
Congratulations, you finally got that thing turning. Love the Sierra. You just got a new subscriber, haha! Also, love the Prelude in the background. Had one just like it, but brown. Cheers!
Great outcome. It was ring stuck. A very common problem in any motor stood for years. Top result.
The hold below the centre vent is to store casette tapes!
Put some new valve guide seals on the guides. For this you need to take out the valves, obviously. But it then gives you the perfect opportunity to check for bent valves (put then in a drill. Let the drill spin the valve and then you can see if it is out of wack or still true. When putting them back in you can inspect the seats and maybe lap those valves in for a perfect seal.
IMO the cylinder head is the heart of an engine. The more attention you give it to make it perfect, the better the engine will run once it's back together.
I would beforehand do 2 things 1. remove the cam oil feed pipe and retaining bolts and put them somewhere very safe 2. clean the combustion chambers and check for any visible cracks from memory I am sure pinto's used to crack between the valves when the engine has been frozen highly likely given the circumstances oh and 3. the sump is full of water 😉🤣
Looking forward to see this up and running
Great stuff. Love this.. Keep it up mate
Nice to see an old Sierra being restored solid cars back in the day never had one but drove a mates car
Nice! Looking forward to this series, thanks man.
Additional information after hearing your clutch / flywheel comment:
Clutch stack height could be incorrect, and clutch pressure plate could be fouling the bell housing.
I’d be inclined to slacken the belhousing bolts, crack it open a tad, then try turning the engine once more.
You gotta do a wash soon so we see how clean it really is 👊👌
muff the 'numbers matching' crowd. like you said - it is what it is. Personally, i would do whatever you like with the engine, do some OE+ uprgades, alloys? fog lights? maybe a mod-con or two, new speakers and a useable carplay head unit, led conversion for all the lights? could be a nice daily!
Persistence is key 🔑 Love it 👊
Found this channel by accident and have subscribed on the back of the barn find sierra vid. Looking forward to seeing it rebuilt
working on getting the thing together :)
Stoked to see this channel getting more ane more views! Keep up the good work man! Amother great vid!
I would look for a head that's been upgraded to run on unleaded fuel. Also, I would put a bigger cam, give that Pinto a bit more power.
My nan had one of these. Same year. Great car. Can't wait to see it run.
me too! thanks for watching !
Your a good bloke Josh, I subscribed - Keep at it!
might be worth taking the sump off , i would put 185/70 13 tyres on it as will go on those wheels
Grate news to see you have got engine bottom end turning doin well mate 👍
Brilliant m8.. Pre 2000 builds is what we have missed.. Keep it up.pal....remember if u need anything let us know I'm up north wales any parts we have a lot. Of pre 2000 cars especially the ford's. Mike
Excellent video. Well done!!
Mate here's what I'd do with this engine. I'd keep it strip it down clean it up with some serious chemical usage remove any of the rust. It will clean up I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the results.
I’d be inclined to think there “may” be water in the oil pan. If so, the main bearings could be corroded.
Or, a spun bearing.
New to the channel Great vids on the sierra. Remeber them being scrapped by the truck load years ago. I am slowly catching up on your vids.
Omg I love this car thank you for getting it bk on the road again
1.6 is a non interference engine, the valves cannot strike the pistons even if the cambelt snaps. There’s something else going on there. I know as a sierra 2 door owner for 10 years, and a 25 year time severd mechanic 😊. I’m little Johnny no it all😂.
@hoodhangerz4315 No, i had a 1.6, belt snapped. Put new belt on and engine ran like nothing happened.
@@taunus1990Same here 1.6 LX just put a new belt on and strobed the timing marks back.
Hole above the engine is cubby hole in base models, and extra information system in GL / Ghia models.
My dad had the same car back in the 80's. Same year as well. I rememeber him moaning about it having the incorrect carb on it. Used to struggle to get up the hill on to our estate.
Cambelt failure, the 2.0 pinto wont contact the valves, hence they got another cylinder head because they got bent, top tip for breaking engine free is rocking the car back and forth in 3rd or 4th.
Hello from Brazil 🇧🇷 great video, lovely Ford
Thanks great video.
I kept shouting at the phone "it's the piston rings rusted to the cylinders" it happens a lot.
Glad you got it freed. But frankly it would be more cost effective to drop in a replacement engine.
Haha i wanted to eliminate everything else first -haha
Great vid josh gonnea be a great adventure cannea wait !
Yeah it’s free . Nice to get original engine rebuilt Josh
I would just the head you took off checked and rebuilt, saves you messing about trying to find another one. Plus you can do some upgrades to it if you wanted, as i know these engines are tuneable. The bottom end id check over as you say, with it been sitting for that long, plus if its been stolen in the past, god knows what ride its had. See if there are some old school yards about, that have these in still, you may need to travel though, so you can get the bits and pieces. You maybe lucky you may find one that age still in a yard. Look in fast ford mags etc. As i am sure there was a sierra breaker in a mag i read some year ago, and the owners clubs.
The missing bit off the dash is the analogue clock and cassette tape holder
Black Banded steels,slightly lowered and running sweet
Memories good old fords happy days
Good job freeing the cylinders, a bit of a chance but paid off for you man 👍
Thanks 😎
Great to watch video thanks
Definitely worth saving theres a sierra group on Facebook that can help with parts and advice etc there a great bunch of guys
thanks!!
On a base model 1.6 it's most likely just a pocket in the dash, might be a clock and pocket if it's a gl.
The cam belt not being tight is not an issue as pinto is a non interference engine, meaning you can snap the belt and just bung a new one on it'll run fine, the reason the chap didn't get it running is likely because the timing is out.
I'm 10 mins into the vid and will keep watching and point anything else out I can to help
As for the head and cam just clean it up a best you can and reuse.
I wouldn't bother replacing anything other than the gaskets unless your plan is to keep the thing, it's gonna smoke like a bus when it run do the the rings beinh stuck in the ring lands anyways so that engine will need rebuilding.
Even with a pitted cam it'll run, use some high zinc oil and it'll be fine.
That big gaping hole in the dash is fir the clock. It has a little plastic holding tray area there next to the clock too.
That part that is missing is a clock and cassette holder and to say if that car is up and running with a very good underbody with a MOT you can get a good price for it
Loving the Sierra content!!
Indentations made by the valves on the top of the pistons are most likely caused by the cam belt snapping.
5he marks on the pistons is the valves toiching the pistons like you said and is the crank snapped or not and the cylinders look OK
Good videos! I'm learning something.
this car is something i wish we had here in the states i mean we had something similar it was known as the ford tempo but they really were not the same car the body was slightly different and the engine spec was different i don’t think i ever saw a manual transmission equipped model even though they were available as the automatic is a lot more common here the cool thing i found interesting was all wheel drive was a option i was not aware of this an that was definitely something you didn’t see at the time i wonder if the Sierra had similar options i honestly don’t know much about the car because by the time i started driving these cars were just not around anymore as the rust problems was horrible and killed them however a nabor of mine had a tempo it was an interesting car and it had a much larger engine at 2.3L so definitely a different car compared but ford used a real similar body design for the tempo however i prefer the Sierra it would be interesting to know if you could fit the larger engine in to the Sierra as the cars configuration is so similar i would think it would work in the car with no need for modifications as they used a few different engines in the tempo including a Mazda made diesel the larger engine definitely would be a nice bump in power it’s honestly a bummer you have to replace the engine as it’s a really nice vehicle for its age what a good find i hope you get it fixed soon and back on the road it looks like it will be a good car
Brilliant video josh well done
Glad you enjoyed it
Loved working on these engines in the day same engine as a fort transit used just swap them over from scrap yards
Can’t wait for next video,weldone🙏🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
The love tap rules!!!!
The Weber Manual Choke kit was much better than the automatic choke VV carb. "WEBER 34 ICH" if memory serves me right. That car cleaned out and cleaned up will be very desireable. Tbh getting that engine/box out is the best idea i saw. now you can pressure wash the engine/bay etc :-) check the big end bearings. the gearbox oil looked delicous like a glass and a half kind (chocolate) LOL :-) i love this. its bringing back so many memories of my mum and dad's Sierra's which i mentioned in the 1st video 1985 1.8 L 5 speed. 1983 2.0 GL 4 Speed.
these engines are notorious for locking up if left to sit for a while they are also non interferance engines the valves do not hit the pistons if the timing jumps or the belt breaks but if i were you i would do the valve stem oil seals they will be goosed they smoke like fook when starting due to this fault best of luck with this its worth doing
If you got a blow torch gently heat the head were the pistons are and use a rubber mallet and hit the top off the pistons the rings are stuck to the boar that is why you cannot turn over the engine.
That hole is for a digital clock and storage space. Usually had the guides to hold maybe 5 cassette tapes in
That Sierra is the same as a Merkur XR4TI that Ford sent to the US in the late 80's so watching a 4 door non turbo 2.3 being messed with is interesting to me as I have a 1992 Ford Ranger that has the same engine so I'm going to watch all you post 🙂
It's a 5 door ( a 4 door ( sedan) was called a sierra sapphire here in Europe) and the pinto engine in this car is only a 1.6 litre 😂
Fill cylinders with evapo rust to help clean them up
He wrangled that oily pig out of the bay like a true cowboy 😂 Those ropes cracked me up 😂😂
had to use what i got at the time 🤣 the hooks for the engine was on the head lol
Hammer never fails baby!
also the head is cast steel it will not require skimming you are working on old school 1970's engine first used in 1971 or thereabouts like i said before they are non interferance heads strip it fit a new cam kit and stem seals it will be good to go
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Spun bearing then, I’ve just seen you try turning the engine over, with the gearbox off.
The recesses in the pistons are supposed to be there,there a non interference engine give it a valve job and cam and it’ll go again
The 1.6 is non interference because of the lower valve lift.
Incidentally the 2.0 transit engine used the 1.6 cam with lower lift 👍
I would see money wise wat to do rebuild that engine or buy another one? as the 16 pinto will be cheap as everyone uses the the 20 pinto more but good to see you got it tunning over after all that
GET STUCK INTO IT BANGERS AND CASH IS WAITING FOR IT
Josh
Go to KGF classics
Sierra 16 L
Your dashboard is there.
The firing oder is 1342 but 1&4 are up so soothing catastrophic has happened snapped can rods or something
Great content mate
I love how Ford got away with using world war 2 engines in their cars, I remember the cam knocking on the cortina’s and sierras back in the day, oil starvation was the prognosis, crap cars. Great channel though, very informative.
A big old breaker bar extension probably could have helped ya! Nice job though none the less, cars are never easy are they lol
Was just trying to tighten it more so couldn’t really hang off it too much !
Hi
The hole in the dash would of had a storage box with a ford clock.
Hope this helps.
Awaiting on pt 3 good viewing matey
the space above radio was always a storage compartment
That gap in the dash housed the clock and in higher spec models warning lights etc were there .
If I remember correctly, the 1.6 Pinto cylinder heads were desirable, due to a higher CR, for fitting to the 2.0 Pinto bottom end.
Yes you are correct 👍