@@perryr4516good luck changing your filter without losing a bunch of oil. Change both at 5K my man - most filters aren’t even designed for more than 5-7k MAX
If you want your engine to run well. Into high kms every 5k. You have a rock solid Toyota let’s say take that baby up to easy 500,000 km. I had a car that sounded new on 500,000km as I changed every 5k. Purred like a kitten. You go to sell it and say hey I change the oil frequently pull out the receipts . Bingo
Exactly. this kid knows nothing about engine longevity. Stelantis products jeeps etc. are now junk. The idiot greenies and globalists forced direct injection upon us which clogs intake valves with carbon buildup, engine life Will suffer once again. My parents used to change their oil at 3k 50 years ago and they would get over 300k miles with non-synthetic oil Due to frequency of changes.
3-6k oil changes make 200k+ mile motors. Seen it myself many times. Bought multiple vehicles that were changes religiously every 5k miles and I’m still driving them at 230,247, and 248k miles
Some idiot oil place lied to my gf and was like “🤪 ur good for 5,000 miles”… she drives a Nissan… the next time i road in her car she needed an oil change and it sounded like a damn lawn mower… Yall folks need to understand that these oil changing places will lie to u to make them seem better than competitors so u come back. They dgaf bout ur car cuz they will never drive it 🤦🏾♂️
Changing oil above 5000 miles is a scam from the manufacturers. There is a video on youtube where i guy changed his oil every 10k on his Toyota from the Toyota dealer. It blew up around 130k. He should easily get 200k plus out of a Toyota with proper maintenance. They found because of his lack of maintenance and changing oil so long is what cause the issue. Oil is cheaper then blowing up an engine. They have never figured out how to keep oil from breaking down with very long maintenance intervals. Thats because the oil gets contaminated with fuel over time. Change your oil
We have a 2013 Silverado with 290k miles changed every 10k on the oil Are you sure that particular Toyota wasn’t one of those mediocre V6 turbo engines?
@Kylewraps I also have a 2013 Silverado. I change my oil every 4k miles and will continue to do so. The inside of your engine is probably filled with sludge and gumming up. Also you'll see signs on the cylinder walls and pison skirts with oil changes like that. No thanks. I have gotten over 330k miles on two older Chevy pick ups and will on this one
@@ccarlock8537 If the engine has barely any blow by thats surprising whats even more surprising is a ml500 with 450k miles.. wonder what the cost to get that thing to that mileage ends up being
@@ccarlock8537 I've seen Sasquatch...... Or at least that's what I say on the internet. Every time I hear shit like this and ask them to prove it they end up being liars or don't know what the fuck they are talking about.
@user-pv3qh8mo4n If you replace oil yourself, buy synthetic online for the price of conventional in stores. I get synthetic oil and oil filter for $30. I do synthetic every 5k
This BS propaganda and basic misunderstanding of what the job of the oil does is why so many people have *early engine failure.* The first thing that should always be discussed/disclosed is the fact that a "10,000 mi." oil change is based on *ideal driving conditions." If you hardly ever engage in stop and go driving (city driving), only operate your car in moderate climates (40°f - 80°f temps, max), never pull trailers and or don't drive on steep grades (stay out of the mountains) and don't use your car for commercial purposes (taxi, Uber or food delivery) then you can *possibly* get by with 10k mi. changes, as outlined by the oil manufacturers. An oil analysis will confirm the serviceability of the oil. Great, the oil lasts longer and cleans better *but,* the oil still manages to pick up and contain all the contamination, carbon and metal particulate mater... The oil, itself may not break down as fast as old tech oils, lasting longer in service life, etc. *but...* This does not mean that the oil magically dissipates all of the engine contaminates, carbon build up and metal particulate that accumulates in the oil, which inturn creates negative effects in the engine's functions. It's the *wear of the engine,* not the ability of the oil to "keep going without breaking down" that determines when your oil should be changed. Oil breakdown is only *one element* to consider in its function to protect the engine. Regardless of what the oil manufacturers and car manufacturers try to tell you, countless certified, independent automotive technicians, like myself, after years upon years of experience (I started working on cars in 1974) and observing the results of different oils and the milage and type of service the engine is used for, the vast majority of techs will agree that more frequent oil changes (much less than the 8k-10k mi. recommended life) is the *number one thing* that a vehicle owner can do to lengthen the service life of their vehicle, *period.* There is too much imperial evidence to deny this and people keep looking at the wrong thing when trying to figure this all out. Don't look at the predicted life of your oil, look at the wear and tear on friction surfaces and carbon deposit build-up in your engine. With modern oils, great as they are, *5,000 miles* IS the best service cycle for an oil change in modern, combustion engines, 3,000 in older vehicles because the components aren't as durable as modern production parts and design. And if nothing else, why not err to the side of caution and spend a few dollars more to *guarantee* your best engine life rather than try to hope and gamble that the oil will miraculously last 2-3 times longer *without allowing any extra wear* and not allow any wear/damage to your engine. Why save a few bucks just to possibly end up spending *thousands* in premature repair costs?? That makes *no* sense. Just put all the questions and debates and arguments aside, listen to the thousands of experienced (I'm talking decades, not people in the business for a few years who still function on what they are told is right) technicians who have learned from *hard observation* and just change your damned oil!! 😊
@@208Concepts my 2014 Silverado has 187k miles it has a lifter ticket but still runs fine has had it since 115k The whole lifter tick worry is over exaggerated as hell My dads 2018 has 115k miles no issues
Turbocharged engines need more often oil changes. Direct injected engines need more often oil changes simply because of the fuel mixing into the oil fairly quickly.
@BenzinoGreed-zq1jrgot a turbo GDI VW, factory called for 0W-20 every 10k. Noticed it will literally burn off half a quarter every 1,000 miles because of how thin it is for a turbo application. I started running 5W-30 and now it’ll go 5k without burning a drop.
I change my oil and rotate my tires every 5,000 miles. 3,000 seems a little excessive unless you run your car/truck really hard. Changing oil is not that expensive nor difficult, so even if I can stretch it to 10,000, I would rather be safe and do it every 5,000.
Its not the oil breakdown that is the problem. Its the contamination of water and excess fuel accumulating in the oil and never getting burned off because people tend to drive short distances of only a few miles and the engine never gets a chance to heat up and burn off the excess fuel and naturally occurring condensation. The oil itself is fine its the build up of fuel that naturally gets past the rings into the oil and the water tha build up in the oil and contaminates it there by compromising the lubricity of the oil. If you do highway driving and longer distances than 2 miles to the store and back then you can go longer. Easiest way is pull the dipstick and simply smell the oil for excessive smell of fuel!
5000 mile oil changes are the sweet spot between protecting your engine and economy IMHO. Sure you can go longer but there are plenty of people with proof that 10,000 could create more problems long term.
According to Scotty Kilmer, I "drive like a maniac". For much of my Lightnings life, I do synthetic oil, change the filter ever 3-5k miles topped off the oil, def full change before 10k. I have driven the thing super hard. I think a regular car wasn't designed to handle muscle car changes. This one was designed with full intent people are going to abuse the f out of it. Dad says the 15 years of salt frame damage will kill it before anything else. It will keep going and I want another one.
the issue is most cars over 10-12 years old with 150,000+ miles will burn 1 qt of engine oil every 1,500-2,000 miles and if you go 10,000 miles, your engine will be so low on oil, it will blow up....NO ONE CHECKS OIL LEVELS ANY MORE!!! at least at the 3,000 mile oil change-it was only 1-2 quarts low.
yes, not all will, I have a 1990 F150 300-six that uses no oil, but most older cars should not alarm the owner if the oil level goes down some between changes-best practices says to check it often@@moshet842
@@outlawedmedia4336you’ve also got to remember that yes, oils have improved-but engines have changed. They are running thinner oils, in thinner clearances, under high heat and boost pressure, in addition to direct injection, cam timing- all contributes to oil wear. Most of the time, going over 7k on a modern vehicle oci could be detrimental.
With diesels, maybe otherwise change your oil frequently people!!!! 10-15k km/mile oil intervals are for frequently used highway driving vehicles. Frequent stop&start, city driving, vehicles that sit idle or/and unused extended periods of time will need 3-5k miles/ 7-10k km 6 months-1 year intervals.One last thing even tho oil is way more robust than before it still cannot with stand common contaminants like moisture(cars that sit unused alot are especially at risk), fuel( gasoline is a strong solvent that will breakdown your oil and with direct injection its even worse) and combustion gasses(especially CO2, it will drop your oil's pH and if you keep your interval long, your oil will become acidic and accelarate wear inside the engine)
I am in the 3000 mile oil change interval camp. My 2017 Ford Edge 2.0 Ecoboost is driven 90% short trip under 40 mph. If I go 5000 miles between oil change, the oil level will rise above full mark on oil dip stick from fuel dillution.
Change your oil every 10,000 miles if you want your car to only last 100,000 to 150,000 miles. Don’t care how much oils have improved in the past 15 years, always change it every 3,000 miles, your car will thank you for it. Same thing with transmission fluid changes, if it’s changed every 2 years, your transmission will last a long, long time. If you go the preventative maintenance route, your car will last a good while. If you go by the maintenance intervals in your owner’s manual, don’t expect the car to last more than 150,000 miles. Reason why they say that is they purposely want you to wear the car out as soon as possible so they can sell as many cars as possible since it’s in their business plan.
you are straight up lying bro. Any car with at least one 10k mi change wont even make it to 50k miles. and that fact that you still believe in the 3k oil changes is histarical.I dont go more than 1,500mi without a change.
Direct injection is tougher on oil, and higher temperatures may shorten oil life as well. Cant go wrong doing synthetic every 5k. If i was gonna go longer i would run amsoil signature and do oil analysis. Also dont use diesel oil in direct injection gas engines, it can result in preignition. Theres a good video on here somewhere that talks about gas direct injection oil differences.
Caterpillar will tell you modern emissions controlled engines with peg and doc and DPF. Will have 7% fuel dilution. Diesel is a lubricant solvent. It does not help. It destroys oil life.
Some engines can get away with higher mileage intervals. Some engines are prone to sludge, poor oiling, sensors clogging. 5.4 3v - 3.6vvt - 5.3 AFM - ECOTEC 2.4 and many more just don’t put up well with poor maintaince.
It's not a myth that you change your oil at 5k. Oil might provide adequate lubrication past that mileage, but it won't provide optimal lubrication. Not to mention things like most filters clogging and going into bypass around that mark as well. No, a 10k oil change won't kill your engine (immediately) but if you want it to last a long time, 200k miles plus, change your oil frequently, around 5k miles depending on your type of driving, highway obviously isnt very hard on anything, so if you're only doing that maybe you can extend it a bit.
As heavy equipment mechanic seeing oil samples on a daily basis. Modern oil is pretty garbage. All the good stuff has been removed to lubricate critical parts. The biggest being the additive package burning. Off by 250H or common 5000km mileage. The greatest advance has been aluminum faced bearings. They polish your crank and the embbedability of it is great.
I change every 5k just so I can rotate my tires at the same time. I don't care if it's advertised as a 10k life oil. An oil change is cheaper than an engine.
I would DEFINITELY leave out the word MUCH. Better, yes, MUCH, heck no. I'm not going expand on this, it's been done to the point of obscene redundancy. Did Mythbusters really put to rest everything they put to the test? No, they left out way too many real life variables in everything they tested. THE SAME APPLIES HERE. Example, as a mechanic with 25 years of shop experience/ownership in 4 different states (AZ,FL,TX, and CO), I can not fathom advising anyone on machine lubrication knowing that my very SW, S, SE USA experience with thousands of motor vehicles, motorcycles, and heavy equipment is going repeat in a shop in Fairbanks Alaska. It won't. And then add in the human factors that will always be an uncontrollable variable. 3k to 5k miles to Bob and his pick em up truck could be 5k to 7k in reality, and 10k miles to his wife and her Mini Cooper could be 15k to 20k miles in reality, and they will argue until blue in the face about it. "Bob, did you take your truck through any water crossings or go overlanding in Australia" "NO, THAT IS ABSURD" "Well Bob, i just noticed the family of beavers residing your crankcase, so...." The synthetic oils now are good, too good, and also good at hiding any problems to the naked eye so oil testing is a must to truly know WTH is going on(and that is assuming Bob doesn't work as an oil tester, because im not trusting anything he says). So what you told Bob about changing oil every 3k miles would be an arrogant assumption, because BOB needs to be changing his oil every time he goes underwater spelunking with his truck or every 1.5 to 2k miles if he doesn't, but who knows if he really does or not. Bob probably needs to just stick to conventional oil, for many reasons, not just because the beavers prefer it, and change it, and gear axle, transmission, transfer.... TO SUM IT ALL UP, depending on the year, make, model, driving conditions, atmospheric conditons, geographic location, if SYNTHETIC is used, one may be able to get 5k to 10k miles. AND ANY MECHANIC THAT TOLD ME MY NEXT OIL CHANGE IS OVER 10K MILES AWAY SHOULD GO WORK WHEREVER BOB DOES, because that is a flat out untrustworthy mechanic to avoid like the plague. And with conventional oil on a older vehicle, 3k to 5k is fine! The Ol School Jeep guys I tell this to. Not a single customer has came to me saying their engines blew up because I told them to change their oil every 5k to 10k miles(synthetic users). I can't count how many times I have seen a catastrophic failure because Jo Schmucks Drip n Drive shop advised them to do oil changes every 10k, 15k, 30k miles. Non mechanically inclined individuals are very quick to think the better deal is the Main Vein Drip on the Strip, with their 5 minute 30k mile oil changes instead of Dave's NO Bull or Drip under 10k mile oil change because they don't see the $ savings immediately. I would put every dime I have ever earned on the fact that Dave has the most trustworthy, more knowledgeable, and overall conscientious view with longevity of my vehicle and overall cost of ownership in mind and Jo be on that quick buck BS. And we already know what the Stealorship, I mean dealership, is about. Overall long term $$$$$, any way they can get it. Mechanics have a little proverb/mantra and it goes PAY ME NOW, OR PAY ME LATER. Later is NEVER the better option.
My rule of thumb for daily drivers, in other words not exotic performance cars is: 5000 miles on mineral oil, 7500 on semi synthetic, 10000 miles on full synthetic. This is the maximum I would go. No more
My own cars 5000 miles on conventional, 7500 on full synthetic. Oil filter changed at every oil change. Air filters and fuel filters every second oil service. Never had a engine failure in 26 years. I also change my car's other fluids regularly.
Yeah and that's why the manufacturers themselves, the people who made the damn car, say to change roughly every 3k-5k miles. Listen to your manufacturer people and look in your owners manual to see when you should change your oil
In case you didn't notice, every MFG is different is vastly different with their intervals. BMW for example recommends 15k intervals for loads of their cars. Ford recommends 7500 - 10k intervals for their 6.7L Powerstroke. Toyota lists 10k for lots of their vehicles. The list goes on and on.
The auto manufacturers, struggling to meet more and more stringent emissions standards, have high-tech, fine tolerances and fine-tuned their engines to the point where they are fragile. Constant new designs, unproven by time, very thin oils with light fraction that quickly burns off and evaporates, internal sensors that easily get clogged and become inaccurate and fail, all these result in engines that are the opposite of robust. The pre-1995 engines were tough and proven. The muscle car era engines from Detroit were super-butch, very strong and reliable -- but inefficient and short-lived. We were promised that synthetic oils would give us 10k miles between changes. Maybe it did then, but now these modern engines fry and destroy the synthetics. Over the extended life of a modern, strictly maintained vehicle - say 200,000 miles - that is 67 oil changes. At $130 each oil change that is $8710. If you have 3 vehicles in your family, that is $26,130 over ten years, and $2,613 a year == thus $217.17 a month. With a shrinking middle class income that’s a painful bite, and the trend is towards ever more high-strung and hysterical vehicles coming off the robotic production line, cars that no “mechanic” actually understands. More failures, more obscure error codes, more $$ components needlessly replaced because no “mechanic” can logically diagnose an issue and repair it -- they just replace part after part until the code goes away. Sooner or later they get lucky and one or the other components was actually at fault. Ruinously expensive for the owner. Oh, well. It all goes on the credit card at 26% APR - thus your modern car drives you to ruin
i had this conversation w a 30-year toyota master tech. i’m team 7500 miles. he’s team 3,000. he said the only reason he recommends it isn’t because the oil can’t take it, but because a lot of people don’t check it.
@@jasonhooey5677 if people would chdck their oil every little while and appropriately top off, i bet people could go 12,000 miles/change if their commute is mostly highway!
@@MCatwar i drive a 2011 ford e250 for work with the 4.6 v8. I routinely drive 15000km on some off brand semi synthetic oil with a napa gold or motorcraft oil filter. It's a loaded work van, very heavy and sometimes pulls a 5000lbs trailer. I probably add about 4 to 5 litres of oil in that oil change interval. I also drain and fill the trans every 50000km. It has 450,000km and running strong on all original parts. I just replaced the factory alternator.
@@MCatwar i drive a 2011 ford e250 for work with the 4.6 v8. I routinely drive 15000km on some off brand semi synthetic oil with a napa gold or motorcraft oil filter. It's a loaded work van, very heavy and sometimes pulls a 5000lbs trailer. I probably add about 4 to 5 litres of oil in that oil change interval. I also drain and fill the trans every 50000km. It has 450,000km and running strong on all original parts. I just replaced the factory alternator.
I have a 2014 Nissan Altima SL. I change my oil every 10,000 mile intervals with synthetic oil - 40k, 50k, 60k, 70k, etc etc. It make it a lot easier for me to remember when to change the oil. I am almost at 220,000 miles 😮. Hoping to reach 250,000 - 300,000.
@@dougn2350 The original cvt transmission was bad so the first owner sold it back to the dealer at 37k. Nissan then put in a brand new cvt and I took a chance as the second owner. I didn't know I was supposed to change the cvt fluid, a mechanic then said don't change it.
My Canadian Honda user's guide says I should not go over 16k km tops. The iMid alerts me to change the oil at 8k km regularly, but laziness and weather (winter) makes me change it normally at 10 or 11k km.
Your comment is false information. Full synthetic oil can easily go over 7k miles. It's a fact. People are brainwashed into thinking it's still the 60s
Wow you're really smart... NOT. Miles don't mean a thing it's about hours. If you have a car that's for all highway work, you can put 10k on it in 150 hours or so. Most engines are rated for 200-500 hour oil change intervals. FооІ
Says the guy wearing a Jeep T-shirt! You're gonna believe him or spend a little bit of money and make sure you do it more timely. It is good insurance no matter what.
I used the Mobil-1 oil that claims to last 20,000 miles and I pushed it to the full 20,000. My engine is still running like new. 2002 Chrysler PT Cruiser. 135,000 miles. Oil last changed at 115,000.
But I still aint pushing it. My vehicles are 33 and 25. 1's just old And was abused before I Owned it It deserves at this point and one has higher mileage.
Well the saying goes proof is in the pudding!!! Show me 2 of the same engine one that has been changed every 3k-5k miles vs the other one at 7500k+ miles and see which one is better. I for one will not regardless of oil type go past 5k miles on a oil change. I own a diesel and diesels are very picky when it comes to oil change intervals.
Oil changes aren't just about the oil breaking down, it's also about having cleaner oil. Your oil filter can only filter down to such a small degree, and smaller particulates flow through. These can still cause wear inside the engine, and will do more damage the longer they are left. The oil may last longer, but there are still some of the same valid reasons to change your oil every 3-5 thousand miles.
Also depends on are you city driving or highway. Also when its winter and you idle to warm the car to warm up more it breaks down much faster. Its not just about miles. Idle time is very damaging.
I change mine at 5k with synthetic and have 260k on original Chrysler motor😦. My brother changed his at 10k synthetic on his Toyota, oil burning by 170k. I refuse to believe.
It really depends on your specific motor. Newer vehicles with direct injection and slapped with turbos definitely need more frequent oil changes. That oil is being beat up far more than your typical 90s to early 2000s naturally aspirated engines.
This is misinformation. Ask any engine designer and you will get the same answer: if you want to maximize the life of the engine change oil every 3-5k, use the cheapest synthetic oil per your spec and you can opt to change your oil filter every OTHER oil change. This is no longer controversial.
5000 kms oil change or 4 months interval whichever comes first is still the GOLDEN RULE if you want your car to do half a million kms from your engine.
160k on a '14 silverado 5.3... zero leaks and zero oil burn, even with active DOD still going on it. For me, 4 months or 4k miles. Just because it doesn't get driven doesn't mean the oil can't get contaminants from the atmosphere over time. Your crankcase isn't 100% sealed from natural aspiration while parked.
Oh by the way the maintenance intervals that are in your owers manual is the MINIMUM REQUIREMENT to maintain your vehicles warranty. There is no manufacturer going to punish you for changing your oil earlier..... like way before 10k intervals
I use the paper towel and sniff tests, if it looks good and smells good I leave it alone a little longer. If it starts getting darker or smells bad I change it.
What mileage interval has that settled on for you? Something interesting I've noticed is after i pushed an interval from 6 to 8k my new oil got dark almost immediately
@@bwatt1383 depends on the car too a lot. The large oil capacity engine like the v8 SUV can go for that 8k miles no problem, but I also don't drive it as hard for groceries. But my little 4 cylinder sports car that I drive like a madman I usually land on 3.5-5k miles.
I work at a Benz dealership. Our cars take 10k oil changes all around, on 5w40, 0w40, and 5w30 viscosities. This is never what kills our engines. It's almost always going to be a lack of scheduled maintenance paired with operator error. That being said, I change my oil in all my vehicles at 5k miles, simply because they are all aging vehicles that accumulate a lot of mileage over short periods of time (500-600 miles/week).
Lack of schedule maintenance, dude that covers it all dude if ur missing an air cap they are slapping one on for 30 bucks or else ur warrantee sell ur blinker fluid elsewhere
@@chrisfalx3251 my guy, I'm talking about major services, like differential and transmission services, fuel injection services (direct injection engines), spark plugs, etc. I am not talking about the run of the mill oil changes and engine air filters, as those are often performed by the customer or another shop, if not done by the dealer. Our customers, who usually know jack about cars, drive their cars to the ground and wonder why the engine or transmission needs to be replaced after only 150k miles, after they ignored every recommended service item on the list for 10 years straight.
It’s designed to the person only goes to the dealership 2 or 3 times before the cars out of bumper to bumper warranty and when your car has engine problems before 60k the dealer can decline your warranty repair due to lack of maintenance they’ll tell you that you had to follow the sever service interval.
I’ve spoken to a lot of mechanics over the years. Here’s what I’ve gathered. When it comes to oil and fuel filters, “just don’t fuck around.” And I live by that rule. You should too.
Oils exposed to short distance driving, driven hard, track use, heavy loads, heavily modified engines that run on e85, or city driving definitely would need 3,000 mile oil intervals. This only applies if you intend on having your car for the long run.
I have a 1995 f150 with 302 that was my dads and now mine it has 430k. My dad is a knitwit for 2000 mile oil changes, the only things to fail on the truck has been sensors, fuel pump and tranny. Engine still runs like new
The only way you should go up to 10k on an oil change is if you are doing a lot of continuous highway driving. Otherwise it should be 5k or 6 month on full synthetic, whichever comes first.
I change mine when the little reminder comes on it's usually around 5k miles so pretty much twice a year I don't want to push it I can even feel the sluggishness at around the 5k mile range and it goes away right after I change it
This myth is still very much alive. There are scores of online diy’ers and commenters who boast about changing their oil every 3-5k miles. They buy the expensive synthetic oil, on a car that has a sophisticated oil life monitor system just to forgo all of it and dump the oil when it still has 70% of its life left. I just don’t understand the logic. If you were to ask they would parrot Scotty kilmer’s quote of “oil is cheap engines are expensive” which doesn’t change the fact that modern conventional oil does not start to degrade until 7k miles, and synthetic much longer.
Tried changing full synth oil at one year/10,000 miles. Never again. Sludge all over the engine internals. Now change every 6 months/ 5000 miles. Even if just extracting oil from dip stick port.
I change oil every 10K , I use fully advanced synthetic, it's barely dirty when I drain it . Recently had my timing chain done ,when the top was took off the motor there was NO sludge build up.. so I believe what he's saying
Most people wait way to long to change their oil and now they will wait even longer. The reason you have so many people whose car falls apart is because people don't maintain their car. Your car absorbs carbon and breaks down as you drive. More frequent changes are always better than less.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. It's a good safety net, meaning you neglected your oil, you have a nice buffer and shouldn't be concerned, but it's better to change every 3k to 5k.
The problem isn't the miles, but how those miles were done. If you do servere duty operations, like stop start traffic, no. Are you doing low mileages and expecting your oil to last multiple years? No. And by modern oils, what about 0W-16 and 0W-20 oils? I wouldn't want to use these oils with fuel dilution or sheared oil. You're engine won't work for long if your oil is now 0W-8. I'll never understand why people try to save money on oil. It's cheap and you don't know something is wrong with your oil without testing it.
Not only our newer, higher performance motors, consuming more oil due to higher RPMs and less piston. Ring friction, more combustion fumes are contaminating the oil in new motors for the same reason. These fumes embed sludge, deposits and chemicals in the oil that will more rapidly breakdown, bearings, and seals that are critical to the function of the motor. Change your oil with high quality oil early and often.
3k oil changes haven't been a thing since conventional oil. Synthetic blends/full Synthetic good for 5k plus miles depending on the brand you use. But it's not actually about your oil! Or not entirely. All engines burn oil diffrent such as engines with turbos or gdi motors which do burn oil sometimes (depending on brand)before 3k miles. My advice is check your oil regularly if you have a dip stick that is. Some cars don't. If you begin to burn oil around 3k miles I recommend better oil and changing your oil as soon as it does to prevent slug build up in the engine block.
Followed my Acura service schedule for 10k oil changes and the engine started burning oil within 40-45k miles. Started doing 5k intervals on a CX5 and it burns a fraction of what the Acura did. Obviously not an apples-to-apples comparison but it hints at something. I’ll stick to 5k for peace of mind.
In general I like to change my oil every Tuesday or Wednesday, I feel like changing the oil weekly provides me with good protection and it's not really very costly as people think it is. I tried to push it sometimes and I'll do it once every 10 days instead of weekly but I just like to stay on the safe side😂😊
Oil is inexpensive compared to a engine rebuild. I drive a 6.7 Powerstroke and it takes 13 quarts of oil and filter is like 15-20$ so I’m in about 100$ to change the oil myself. Far cheaper than 10k for a new engine
10k and more??? Bro stop making people Damage their cars. I have a 2011 Corolla S , WITH 342k miles. Been using full synthetic oil since I bought it. Changed my oil and filter every 5k miles. still going
Big-rig diesel trucks get an oil change every 30,000 mi. and routinely go a million miles between engine overhauls. In a _gasoline_ engine the most important thing is to change your oil _sometime._
My vehicle specification says change the oil every 7,000 to 7,5000 miles. I put about 7,000 miles a year on my car, so I change my oil at least twice a year or every 5 to 6 months or every 3,500 miles depends on what comes first. I use synthetic oil for my vehicle. Whatever the manufacturer says about oil change mileage, I cut that in half. The real scam is what this guy is saying.
My car is 18 years old and at 209k miles, been through a few owners before me. Oil seems to have been the only thing maintained. I’m not going to deal with an engine blowing while I’m still working out the other issues. I’ll stick to my owners manual and do my changes at every 3k miles.
I do oil changes every 3k mainly because I have a sludge prone engine, but also because I want it to last, it’s already 25 yrs old and going strong at 185k miles
I usually go 5-7000km with full synthetic. EGR, turbos, VCT, and all that high tech stuff dirties the oil more, and I don’t drive that much so I usually get 3-5 months on an oil change
@@aidanbrooks771 15000km is not a longer interval, if anything can also be considered far more often than needed. 7000 is just ridiculous and wasting money.
@@riba2233 15000km is way too long on an oil change, I’m sorry but that is far far too long. 7-10000km is a reasonable range and I only go shorter on my engine because I want it to last and the engines genuinely have sludge problems if they go with longer intervals. I ran it once till about 12k because I was doing a ton of long drives because of family stuff and the oil that came out of it was beyond dirty. I don’t care if I end up spending 30$ more over a year doing an extra oil change if it means that I am not running some Spider-Man symbiote looking shit through my car to “get the max life out of the oil”
@@riba2233 "and wasting money." For my car only 55 Euro DIY with premium brand oil and filter. 55 Euro is what a mechanic costs to drive your car into the shop and zip coffee.
You're just simply wrong. Yes, oil lasts longer these days, but it is about ridding your engine of contamination in the oil with every oil change.
He just needs some reviews
What about changing your filter at 5k and oil at 10k?
@@perryr4516good luck changing your filter without losing a bunch of oil. Change both at 5K my man - most filters aren’t even designed for more than 5-7k MAX
You are correct .
If you want your engine to run well. Into high kms every 5k. You have a rock solid Toyota let’s say take that baby up to easy 500,000 km. I had a car that sounded new on 500,000km as I changed every 5k. Purred like a kitten. You go to sell it and say hey I change the oil frequently pull out the receipts . Bingo
The question is why push it though when it's an easy, pretty inexpensive process to ensure a good life of the motor?
There's people out there dropping $150+ on dealership oil changes
I change my own with full synthetic Mobil 1 and wix or Napa gold every 3k for 40-45$ you can't put a price tag on peace of mind
@@Fastcarsslowwmoney how come you don’t do it every 1k or 2k miles?
Inexpensive? 😂
Not everyone has the money. $50 or $100 is still money and lots of ppl drive 3k miles in 2 months.
The Car Care Nut has taken countless engines apart I think I’ll take his word for 5k intervals
Agree, a master tech with a lot of experience.
The “Im a Jeep fan” shirt explains a lot.
YEP, only a certain type of person buys this crap today and then runs 10k or more oil changes
Exactly. this kid knows nothing about engine longevity. Stelantis products jeeps etc. are now junk. The idiot greenies and globalists forced direct injection upon us which clogs intake valves with carbon buildup, engine life Will suffer once again. My parents used to change their oil at 3k 50 years ago and they would get over 300k miles with non-synthetic oil Due to frequency of changes.
That was my 1st thought.
He's an absolute idiot and still a kid. What does he know?
3-6k oil changes make 200k+ mile motors. Seen it myself many times. Bought multiple vehicles that were changes religiously every 5k miles and I’m still driving them at 230,247, and 248k miles
I do oil changes every 2,000 miles. Sitting in my car at 251244 right now. Only costs me $27 and 15 minutes cuz i do em myself 🤷🏾♂️
Some idiot oil place lied to my gf and was like “🤪 ur good for 5,000 miles”… she drives a Nissan… the next time i road in her car she needed an oil change and it sounded like a damn lawn mower…
Yall folks need to understand that these oil changing places will lie to u to make them seem better than competitors so u come back. They dgaf bout ur car cuz they will never drive it 🤦🏾♂️
Rooster, you're the idiot....I changed oil on 530i every 15,000 miles and the car has 400,000 miles and runs great.
Random....BS. But keep wasting your money!
my 200k mile crv w 10k mile OCI since 0 miles says otherwise
Changing oil above 5000 miles is a scam from the manufacturers. There is a video on youtube where i guy changed his oil every 10k on his Toyota from the Toyota dealer. It blew up around 130k. He should easily get 200k plus out of a Toyota with proper maintenance. They found because of his lack of maintenance and changing oil so long is what cause the issue. Oil is cheaper then blowing up an engine. They have never figured out how to keep oil from breaking down with very long maintenance intervals. Thats because the oil gets contaminated with fuel over time. Change your oil
We have a 2013 Silverado with 290k miles changed every 10k on the oil
Are you sure that particular Toyota wasn’t one of those mediocre V6 turbo engines?
@Kylewraps I also have a 2013 Silverado. I change my oil every 4k miles and will continue to do so. The inside of your engine is probably filled with sludge and gumming up. Also you'll see signs on the cylinder walls and pison skirts with oil changes like that. No thanks. I have gotten over 330k miles on two older Chevy pick ups and will on this one
@@pineychristian 293k miles now on the 2013 still runs like new
My 2014 Silverado has 189,000 miles too
The guy with the million mile Tundra changed his oil in 10k intervals
@@PQR5CHE the guy with million mile tundra obviously did 98% or more highway driving
Cars with 10,000 mile oil changes will never last to over 200,000 miles engine will end up with alot of blow by
Seen 450,000 miles on ml500 2006, 10k intervals
@@ccarlock8537 If the engine has barely any blow by thats surprising whats even more surprising is a ml500 with 450k miles.. wonder what the cost to get that thing to that mileage ends up being
@@ccarlock8537 Are u certain the engine was never changed?
@@ccarlock8537 I've seen Sasquatch...... Or at least that's what I say on the internet.
Every time I hear shit like this and ask them to prove it they end up being liars or don't know what the fuck they are talking about.
@@ccarlock8537 large oil capacity
🤡🤣 people just come online, and suddenly they're experts. If you want your engine to last DO NOT listen to this guy
I do mine every 5000 miles just because it give me time to inspect and do maintenance
100% I’m the same..maybe a max of 7000 if company car
Makes sense
conventional oil every 5k miles ....
If you're on synthetic 7k is fine.
@user-pv3qh8mo4n If you replace oil yourself, buy synthetic online for the price of conventional in stores. I get synthetic oil and oil filter for $30. I do synthetic every 5k
This BS propaganda and basic misunderstanding of what the job of the oil does is why so many people have *early engine failure.*
The first thing that should always be discussed/disclosed is the fact that a "10,000 mi." oil change is based on *ideal driving conditions." If you hardly ever engage in stop and go driving (city driving), only operate your car in moderate climates (40°f - 80°f temps, max), never pull trailers and or don't drive on steep grades (stay out of the mountains) and don't use your car for commercial purposes (taxi, Uber or food delivery) then you can *possibly* get by with 10k mi. changes, as outlined by the oil manufacturers. An oil analysis will confirm the serviceability of the oil.
Great, the oil lasts longer and cleans better *but,* the oil still manages to pick up and contain all the contamination, carbon and metal particulate mater...
The oil, itself may not break down as fast as old tech oils, lasting longer in service life, etc. *but...* This does not mean that the oil magically dissipates all of the engine contaminates, carbon build up and metal particulate that accumulates in the oil, which inturn creates negative effects in the engine's functions.
It's the *wear of the engine,* not the ability of the oil to "keep going without breaking down" that determines when your oil should be changed. Oil breakdown is only *one element* to consider in its function to protect the engine.
Regardless of what the oil manufacturers and car manufacturers try to tell you, countless certified, independent automotive technicians, like myself, after years upon years of experience (I started working on cars in 1974) and observing the results of different oils and the milage and type of service the engine is used for, the vast majority of techs will agree that more frequent oil changes (much less than the 8k-10k mi. recommended life) is the *number one thing* that a vehicle owner can do to lengthen the service life of their vehicle, *period.*
There is too much imperial evidence to deny this and people keep looking at the wrong thing when trying to figure this all out. Don't look at the predicted life of your oil, look at the wear and tear on friction surfaces and carbon deposit build-up in your engine. With modern oils, great as they are, *5,000 miles* IS the best service cycle for an oil change in modern, combustion engines, 3,000 in older vehicles because the components aren't as durable as modern production parts and design. And if nothing else, why not err to the side of caution and spend a few dollars more to *guarantee* your best engine life rather than try to hope and gamble that the oil will miraculously last 2-3 times longer *without allowing any extra wear* and not allow any wear/damage to your engine. Why save a few bucks just to possibly end up spending *thousands* in premature repair costs?? That makes *no* sense.
Just put all the questions and debates and arguments aside, listen to the thousands of experienced (I'm talking decades, not people in the business for a few years who still function on what they are told is right) technicians who have learned from *hard observation* and just change your damned oil!! 😊
*Ford 3.5 Ecoboost enters the chat*
The longer interval has been linked to the phaser and chain wear issues.
Oh how I miss doing phasers every day at work for months just one after the other
That’s why you buy a Chevy and change it at 10k miles no issues now at 290k miles on our 2013
@@Kylewraps so long as the DoD doesn't fail and wipe out the engine 👀
@@208Concepts my 2014 Silverado has 187k miles it has a lifter ticket but still runs fine has had it since 115k
The whole lifter tick worry is over exaggerated as hell
My dads 2018 has 115k miles no issues
As a senior master ford technician I approve this comment
Turbocharged engines need more often oil changes. Direct injected engines need more often oil changes simply because of the fuel mixing into the oil fairly quickly.
You are absolutely correct. 3,000 to 4,000 miles full synthetic is the way to go
@BenzinoGreed-zq1jrgot a turbo GDI VW, factory called for 0W-20 every 10k. Noticed it will literally burn off half a quarter every 1,000 miles because of how thin it is for a turbo application. I started running 5W-30 and now it’ll go 5k without burning a drop.
I change my oil and rotate my tires every 5,000 miles. 3,000 seems a little excessive unless you run your car/truck really hard. Changing oil is not that expensive nor difficult, so even if I can stretch it to 10,000, I would rather be safe and do it every 5,000.
Its not the oil breakdown that is the problem. Its the contamination of water and excess fuel accumulating in the oil and never getting burned off because people tend to drive short distances of only a few miles and the engine never gets a chance to heat up and burn off the excess fuel and naturally occurring condensation. The oil itself is fine its the build up of fuel that naturally gets past the rings into the oil and the water tha build up in the oil and contaminates it there by compromising the lubricity of the oil. If you do highway driving and longer distances than 2 miles to the store and back then you can go longer. Easiest way is pull the dipstick and simply smell the oil for excessive smell of fuel!
Does this apply for natural gas vehicles.? I have a car that runs on natural gas.
A lab tests cost the same as an change. With fuel dilution becoming a bigger problem nowadays I don't think better oil is a solution.
5000 mile oil changes are the sweet spot between protecting your engine and economy IMHO. Sure you can go longer but there are plenty of people with proof that 10,000 could create more problems long term.
According to Scotty Kilmer, I "drive like a maniac". For much of my Lightnings life, I do synthetic oil, change the filter ever 3-5k miles topped off the oil, def full change before 10k. I have driven the thing super hard. I think a regular car wasn't designed to handle muscle car changes. This one was designed with full intent people are going to abuse the f out of it. Dad says the 15 years of salt frame damage will kill it before anything else. It will keep going and I want another one.
every 5k miles !!!!
the issue is most cars over 10-12 years old with 150,000+ miles will burn 1 qt of engine oil every 1,500-2,000 miles and if you go 10,000 miles, your engine will be so low on oil, it will blow up....NO ONE CHECKS OIL LEVELS ANY MORE!!! at least at the 3,000 mile oil change-it was only 1-2 quarts low.
Exactly
Those are the PhD students that just drive Hondas into the ground. They might change the oil but I doubt it.
I have a 20-year-old close to 200k car that burns no oil whatsoever.
yes, not all will, I have a 1990 F150 300-six that uses no oil, but most older cars should not alarm the owner if the oil level goes down some between changes-best practices says to check it often@@moshet842
How often do u check your oil
It's a machine. Change the oil. People who keep their cars and trucks longer than 60000 miles know this.
That was the old oil and outdated info, With new synthetic you don't have to change as often. Save money and waste less good oil
@@outlawedmedia4336you’ve also got to remember that yes, oils have improved-but engines have changed. They are running thinner oils, in thinner clearances, under high heat and boost pressure, in addition to direct injection, cam timing- all contributes to oil wear. Most of the time, going over 7k on a modern vehicle oci could be detrimental.
U forgot to mention the oil filters, that plays a huge role in oil change intervals.
No because that’s parts of the oil change
Couldn’t agree more big homie
@@LegacyLife_555 Honda says to change the oil filter every other oil change, which baffles me. I change it every oil change.
@@jerradwilsonif you re on it might as well.. a filter isnt really expensive wth
This guy will never help u once your engine is clog up! Oil changes are cheap, cars and engine are expensive,
With diesels, maybe otherwise change your oil frequently people!!!! 10-15k km/mile oil intervals are for frequently used highway driving vehicles. Frequent stop&start, city driving, vehicles that sit idle or/and unused extended periods of time will need 3-5k miles/ 7-10k km 6 months-1 year intervals.One last thing even tho oil is way more robust than before it still cannot with stand common contaminants like moisture(cars that sit unused alot are especially at risk), fuel( gasoline is a strong solvent that will breakdown your oil and with direct injection its even worse) and combustion gasses(especially CO2, it will drop your oil's pH and if you keep your interval long, your oil will become acidic and accelarate wear inside the engine)
I am in the 3000 mile oil change interval camp. My 2017 Ford Edge 2.0 Ecoboost is driven 90% short trip under 40 mph. If I go 5000 miles between oil change, the oil level will rise above full mark on oil dip stick from fuel dillution.
Change your oil every 10,000 miles if you want your car to only last 100,000 to 150,000 miles. Don’t care how much oils have improved in the past 15 years, always change it every 3,000 miles, your car will thank you for it. Same thing with transmission fluid changes, if it’s changed every 2 years, your transmission will last a long, long time. If you go the preventative maintenance route, your car will last a good while. If you go by the maintenance intervals in your owner’s manual, don’t expect the car to last more than 150,000 miles. Reason why they say that is they purposely want you to wear the car out as soon as possible so they can sell as many cars as possible since it’s in their business plan.
you are straight up lying bro. Any car with at least one 10k mi change wont even make it to 50k miles. and that fact that you still believe in the 3k oil changes is histarical.I dont go more than 1,500mi without a change.
I change my trans fluid every 10,000 miles. If it starts to not shift the way it should, even less.
@@highlymedicated2438had a 2011 mazda with 282k km on the clock when i sold her. i changed the oil every 20k km (13k? miles)
Just like Big Pharma. No $$ in a cure.
Direct injection is tougher on oil, and higher temperatures may shorten oil life as well. Cant go wrong doing synthetic every 5k. If i was gonna go longer i would run amsoil signature and do oil analysis. Also dont use diesel oil in direct injection gas engines, it can result in preignition. Theres a good video on here somewhere that talks about gas direct injection oil differences.
100% 5000 should be standard
Caterpillar will tell you modern emissions controlled engines with peg and doc and DPF. Will have 7% fuel dilution. Diesel is a lubricant solvent. It does not help. It destroys oil life.
Some engines can get away with higher mileage intervals. Some engines are prone to sludge, poor oiling, sensors clogging. 5.4 3v - 3.6vvt - 5.3 AFM - ECOTEC 2.4 and many more just don’t put up well with poor maintaince.
It's not a myth that you change your oil at 5k. Oil might provide adequate lubrication past that mileage, but it won't provide optimal lubrication. Not to mention things like most filters clogging and going into bypass around that mark as well. No, a 10k oil change won't kill your engine (immediately) but if you want it to last a long time, 200k miles plus, change your oil frequently, around 5k miles depending on your type of driving, highway obviously isnt very hard on anything, so if you're only doing that maybe you can extend it a bit.
With forced induction and egrs, oil is bound to get dirty
As heavy equipment mechanic seeing oil samples on a daily basis. Modern oil is pretty garbage. All the good stuff has been removed to lubricate critical parts. The biggest being the additive package burning. Off by 250H or common 5000km mileage. The greatest advance has been aluminum faced bearings. They polish your crank and the embbedability of it is great.
This guy knows. YES- 3K miles It all depends on how long you want your engine to last.
I change every 5k just so I can rotate my tires at the same time. I don't care if it's advertised as a 10k life oil. An oil change is cheaper than an engine.
Just because the oil can last 10,000 miles- doesn’t mean there will be oil in the engine for that many miles.
Got to check them weekly almost hahahaha
I would DEFINITELY leave out the word MUCH. Better, yes, MUCH, heck no. I'm not going expand on this, it's been done to the point of obscene redundancy. Did Mythbusters really put to rest everything they put to the test? No, they left out way too many real life variables in everything they tested. THE SAME APPLIES HERE. Example, as a mechanic with 25 years of shop experience/ownership in 4 different states (AZ,FL,TX, and CO), I can not fathom advising anyone on machine lubrication knowing that my very SW, S, SE USA experience with thousands of motor vehicles, motorcycles, and heavy equipment is going repeat in a shop in Fairbanks Alaska. It won't. And then add in the human factors that will always be an uncontrollable variable. 3k to 5k miles to Bob and his pick em up truck could be 5k to 7k in reality, and 10k miles to his wife and her Mini Cooper could be 15k to 20k miles in reality, and they will argue until blue in the face about it. "Bob, did you take your truck through any water crossings or go overlanding in Australia" "NO, THAT IS ABSURD" "Well Bob, i just noticed the family of beavers residing your crankcase, so...." The synthetic oils now are good, too good, and also good at hiding any problems to the naked eye so oil testing is a must to truly know WTH is going on(and that is assuming Bob doesn't work as an oil tester, because im not trusting anything he says). So what you told Bob about changing oil every 3k miles would be an arrogant assumption, because BOB needs to be changing his oil every time he goes underwater spelunking with his truck or every 1.5 to 2k miles if he doesn't, but who knows if he really does or not. Bob probably needs to just stick to conventional oil, for many reasons, not just because the beavers prefer it, and change it, and gear axle, transmission, transfer.... TO SUM IT ALL UP, depending on the year, make, model, driving conditions, atmospheric conditons, geographic location, if SYNTHETIC is used, one may be able to get 5k to 10k miles. AND ANY MECHANIC THAT TOLD ME MY NEXT OIL CHANGE IS OVER 10K MILES AWAY SHOULD GO WORK WHEREVER BOB DOES, because that is a flat out untrustworthy mechanic to avoid like the plague. And with conventional oil on a older vehicle, 3k to 5k is fine! The Ol School Jeep guys I tell this to. Not a single customer has came to me saying their engines blew up because I told them to change their oil every 5k to 10k miles(synthetic users). I can't count how many times I have seen a catastrophic failure because Jo Schmucks Drip n Drive shop advised them to do oil changes every 10k, 15k, 30k miles. Non mechanically inclined individuals are very quick to think the better deal is the Main Vein Drip on the Strip, with their 5 minute 30k mile oil changes instead of Dave's NO Bull or Drip under 10k mile oil change because they don't see the $ savings immediately. I would put every dime I have ever earned on the fact that Dave has the most trustworthy, more knowledgeable, and overall conscientious view with longevity of my vehicle and overall cost of ownership in mind and Jo be on that quick buck BS. And we already know what the Stealorship, I mean dealership, is about. Overall long term $$$$$, any way they can get it. Mechanics have a little proverb/mantra and it goes PAY ME NOW, OR PAY ME LATER. Later is NEVER the better option.
he said" high performance applications ford focus st". 🤣
My rule of thumb for daily drivers, in other words not exotic performance cars is: 5000 miles on mineral oil, 7500 on semi synthetic, 10000 miles on full synthetic. This is the maximum I would go. No more
My own cars 5000 miles on conventional, 7500 on full synthetic. Oil filter changed at every oil change. Air filters and fuel filters every second oil service. Never had a engine failure in 26 years. I also change my car's other fluids regularly.
My car is almost 19 years on long life oil change - every 30.000 km and never had a problem with the engine.. 1.9 TDI VW
Yeah and that's why the manufacturers themselves, the people who made the damn car, say to change roughly every 3k-5k miles. Listen to your manufacturer people and look in your owners manual to see when you should change your oil
My 22 Colorado diesel manual says change at 7500 miles. For me 5k miles max on a oil change regardless of oil type.
In case you didn't notice, every MFG is different is vastly different with their intervals. BMW for example recommends 15k intervals for loads of their cars. Ford recommends 7500 - 10k intervals for their 6.7L Powerstroke. Toyota lists 10k for lots of their vehicles. The list goes on and on.
Naaaa still going to change my oil every 4000 miles tops
The auto manufacturers, struggling to meet more and more stringent emissions standards, have high-tech, fine tolerances and fine-tuned their engines to the point where they are fragile. Constant new designs, unproven by time, very thin oils with light fraction that quickly burns off and evaporates, internal sensors that easily get clogged and become inaccurate and fail, all these result in engines that are the opposite of robust. The pre-1995 engines were tough and proven. The muscle car era engines from Detroit were super-butch, very strong and reliable -- but inefficient and short-lived.
We were promised that synthetic oils would give us 10k miles between changes. Maybe it did then, but now these modern engines fry and destroy the synthetics.
Over the extended life of a modern, strictly maintained vehicle - say 200,000 miles - that is 67 oil changes. At $130 each oil change that is $8710. If you have 3 vehicles in your family, that is $26,130 over ten years, and $2,613 a year == thus $217.17 a month. With a shrinking middle class income that’s a painful bite, and the trend is towards ever more high-strung and hysterical vehicles coming off the robotic production line, cars that no “mechanic” actually understands. More failures, more obscure error codes, more $$ components needlessly replaced because no “mechanic” can logically diagnose an issue and repair it -- they just replace part after part until the code goes away. Sooner or later they get lucky and one or the other components was actually at fault. Ruinously expensive for the owner. Oh, well. It all goes on the credit card at 26% APR - thus your modern car drives you to ruin
i had this conversation w a 30-year toyota master tech. i’m team 7500 miles. he’s team 3,000. he said the only reason he recommends it isn’t because the oil can’t take it, but because a lot of people don’t check it.
This is true now more than ever
@@jasonhooey5677 if people would chdck their oil every little while and appropriately top off, i bet people could go 12,000 miles/change if their commute is mostly highway!
@@MCatwar i drive a 2011 ford e250 for work with the 4.6 v8. I routinely drive 15000km on some off brand semi synthetic oil with a napa gold or motorcraft oil filter.
It's a loaded work van, very heavy and sometimes pulls a 5000lbs trailer. I probably add about 4 to 5 litres of oil in that oil change interval. I also drain and fill the trans every 50000km.
It has 450,000km and running strong on all original parts. I just replaced the factory alternator.
@@MCatwar i drive a 2011 ford e250 for work with the 4.6 v8. I routinely drive 15000km on some off brand semi synthetic oil with a napa gold or motorcraft oil filter.
It's a loaded work van, very heavy and sometimes pulls a 5000lbs trailer. I probably add about 4 to 5 litres of oil in that oil change interval. I also drain and fill the trans every 50000km.
It has 450,000km and running strong on all original parts. I just replaced the factory alternator.
Classic Toyotas burning oil haha
I have a 2014 Nissan Altima SL. I change my oil every 10,000 mile intervals with synthetic oil - 40k, 50k, 60k, 70k, etc etc. It make it a lot easier for me to remember when to change the oil. I am almost at 220,000 miles 😮. Hoping to reach 250,000 - 300,000.
How's that CVT transmission holding up? Are you doing transmission fluid exchanges?
@@dougn2350 The original cvt transmission was bad so the first owner sold it back to the dealer at 37k. Nissan then put in a brand new cvt and I took a chance as the second owner. I didn't know I was supposed to change the cvt fluid, a mechanic then said don't change it.
My Canadian Honda user's guide says I should not go over 16k km tops. The iMid alerts me to change the oil at 8k km regularly, but laziness and weather (winter) makes me change it normally at 10 or 11k km.
I use generic 0W20 synthetic oil for the reference accordingly to manual and engine oil lid detail.
This is absolutely false you run any car past 7k oil change in the long term you will ruin that engine delete this video this is false information.
My man don't worry, your first clue was that hes wearing a jeep shirt 😂
Your comment is false information. Full synthetic oil can easily go over 7k miles. It's a fact. People are brainwashed into thinking it's still the 60s
Wow you're really smart... NOT. Miles don't mean a thing it's about hours. If you have a car that's for all highway work, you can put 10k on it in 150 hours or so. Most engines are rated for 200-500 hour oil change intervals. FооІ
@@nortonman5238lmfao 🤣🍻
Take this with a grain of salt if you care about your engine 5k should be the max interval, 7500 with the best oil such as amsoil.
Or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. Amsoil and that are the two absolute best
Man, just change your oil. It takes 15 minutes
Says the guy wearing a Jeep T-shirt! You're gonna believe him or spend a little bit of money and make sure you do it more timely. It is good insurance no matter what.
Never go 10k between oil changes.
5-6k and rotate the tires. An engine has NEVER failed because of good maintenance.
I used the Mobil-1 oil that claims to last 20,000 miles and I pushed it to the full 20,000. My engine is still running like new.
2002 Chrysler PT Cruiser. 135,000 miles. Oil last changed at 115,000.
I pull my dipstick and from experience can tell when it's time to change it. The oil change intervals are more for warranty.
5k absolutely! 10k NO! It’s not just oil breaking down. It’s DIRTY!
Exactly, they washed this guys’ brain pretty good
But I still aint pushing it. My vehicles are 33 and 25. 1's just old And was abused before I Owned it It deserves at this point and one has higher mileage.
Well the saying goes proof is in the pudding!!! Show me 2 of the same engine one that has been changed every 3k-5k miles vs the other one at 7500k+ miles and see which one is better. I for one will not regardless of oil type go past 5k miles on a oil change. I own a diesel and diesels are very picky when it comes to oil change intervals.
No Way Jose.
Oh, ok. The higher tolerance motors break down the oils faster. He said "high performance, like the st." This as a great video. 👍
Oil changes aren't just about the oil breaking down, it's also about having cleaner oil. Your oil filter can only filter down to such a small degree, and smaller particulates flow through. These can still cause wear inside the engine, and will do more damage the longer they are left. The oil may last longer, but there are still some of the same valid reasons to change your oil every 3-5 thousand miles.
Don't listen to this guy 3-5 no more got it...
Also depends on are you city driving or highway. Also when its winter and you idle to warm the car to warm up more it breaks down much faster. Its not just about miles. Idle time is very damaging.
I change mine at 5k with synthetic and have 260k on original Chrysler motor😦. My brother changed his at 10k synthetic on his Toyota, oil burning by 170k. I refuse to believe.
If it's a toyota engine that's known for that issue, no amount of oil changes would have helped this.
@@NoName-gv6nmThought Toyota was known for thier EXCELLENT ENGINES.....
Just don't change your oil it will be fine also fill your car with the gas nozzle with green handle bc its eco friendly.
You are wrong
It really depends on your specific motor. Newer vehicles with direct injection and slapped with turbos definitely need more frequent oil changes. That oil is being beat up far more than your typical 90s to early 2000s naturally aspirated engines.
This is misinformation. Ask any engine designer and you will get the same answer: if you want to maximize the life of the engine change oil every 3-5k, use the cheapest synthetic oil per your spec and you can opt to change your oil filter every OTHER oil change. This is no longer controversial.
5000 kms oil change or 4 months interval whichever comes first is still the GOLDEN RULE if you want your car to do half a million kms from your engine.
Most people use full synth oil these days but the thing that a lot of people dont do is use high mileage oil filters that are rated for 3k+ miles
160k on a '14 silverado 5.3... zero leaks and zero oil burn, even with active DOD still going on it. For me, 4 months or 4k miles. Just because it doesn't get driven doesn't mean the oil can't get contaminants from the atmosphere over time. Your crankcase isn't 100% sealed from natural aspiration while parked.
Oh by the way the maintenance intervals that are in your owers manual is the MINIMUM REQUIREMENT to maintain your vehicles warranty. There is no manufacturer going to punish you for changing your oil earlier..... like way before 10k intervals
I use the paper towel and sniff tests, if it looks good and smells good I leave it alone a little longer.
If it starts getting darker or smells bad I change it.
What mileage interval has that settled on for you?
Something interesting I've noticed is after i pushed an interval from 6 to 8k my new oil got dark almost immediately
@@bwatt1383 depends on the car too a lot.
The large oil capacity engine like the v8 SUV can go for that 8k miles no problem, but I also don't drive it as hard for groceries.
But my little 4 cylinder sports car that I drive like a madman I usually land on 3.5-5k miles.
I've been changing my synthetic oil at 5K with ~80-90% city driving but switched to 7.5k with 75-80% highway driving.
I work at a Benz dealership. Our cars take 10k oil changes all around, on 5w40, 0w40, and 5w30 viscosities. This is never what kills our engines. It's almost always going to be a lack of scheduled maintenance paired with operator error. That being said, I change my oil in all my vehicles at 5k miles, simply because they are all aging vehicles that accumulate a lot of mileage over short periods of time (500-600 miles/week).
Lack of schedule maintenance, dude that covers it all dude if ur missing an air cap they are slapping one on for 30 bucks or else ur warrantee sell ur blinker fluid elsewhere
@@chrisfalx3251 my guy, I'm talking about major services, like differential and transmission services, fuel injection services (direct injection engines), spark plugs, etc. I am not talking about the run of the mill oil changes and engine air filters, as those are often performed by the customer or another shop, if not done by the dealer. Our customers, who usually know jack about cars, drive their cars to the ground and wonder why the engine or transmission needs to be replaced after only 150k miles, after they ignored every recommended service item on the list for 10 years straight.
It’s designed to the person only goes to the dealership 2 or 3 times before the cars out of bumper to bumper warranty and when your car has engine problems before 60k the dealer can decline your warranty repair due to lack of maintenance they’ll tell you that you had to follow the sever service interval.
I’ve spoken to a lot of mechanics over the years. Here’s what I’ve gathered. When it comes to oil and fuel filters, “just don’t fuck around.” And I live by that rule. You should too.
Only issue with not changing the oil in your car more frequently than stated by manufacturer specs is running into trouble with dealer warranty.
Oils exposed to short distance driving, driven hard, track use, heavy loads, heavily modified engines that run on e85, or city driving definitely would need 3,000 mile oil intervals. This only applies if you intend on having your car for the long run.
I have a 1995 f150 with 302 that was my dads and now mine it has 430k. My dad is a knitwit for 2000 mile oil changes, the only things to fail on the truck has been sensors, fuel pump and tranny. Engine still runs like new
The only way you should go up to 10k on an oil change is if you are doing a lot of continuous highway driving. Otherwise it should be 5k or 6 month on full synthetic, whichever comes first.
I change mine when the little reminder comes on it's usually around 5k miles so pretty much twice a year I don't want to push it I can even feel the sluggishness at around the 5k mile range and it goes away right after I change it
Every 6 months or 4,000-5,000 miles
Don't do this if you have a turbo
This myth is still very much alive. There are scores of online diy’ers and commenters who boast about changing their oil every 3-5k miles. They buy the expensive synthetic oil, on a car that has a sophisticated oil life monitor system just to forgo all of it and dump the oil when it still has 70% of its life left. I just don’t understand the logic. If you were to ask they would parrot Scotty kilmer’s quote of “oil is cheap engines are expensive” which doesn’t change the fact that modern conventional oil does not start to degrade until 7k miles, and synthetic much longer.
Tried changing full synth oil at one year/10,000 miles. Never again. Sludge all over the engine internals. Now change every 6 months/ 5000 miles. Even if just extracting oil from dip stick port.
Every 3000 is smart more than that is you’re not gonna have your engine last long time
What's cheaper? Oil change or a new engine?
I change oil every 10K , I use fully advanced synthetic, it's barely dirty when I drain it . Recently had my timing chain done ,when the top was took off the motor there was NO sludge build up.. so I believe what he's saying
Most people wait way to long to change their oil and now they will wait even longer. The reason you have so many people whose car falls apart is because people don't maintain their car. Your car absorbs carbon and breaks down as you drive. More frequent changes are always better than less.
Oil changes are cheap, a new block is expensive
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. It's a good safety net, meaning you neglected your oil, you have a nice buffer and shouldn't be concerned, but it's better to change every 3k to 5k.
The problem isn't the miles, but how those miles were done.
If you do servere duty operations, like stop start traffic, no. Are you doing low mileages and expecting your oil to last multiple years? No.
And by modern oils, what about 0W-16 and 0W-20 oils? I wouldn't want to use these oils with fuel dilution or sheared oil. You're engine won't work for long if your oil is now 0W-8.
I'll never understand why people try to save money on oil. It's cheap and you don't know something is wrong with your oil without testing it.
Not only our newer, higher performance motors, consuming more oil due to higher RPMs and less piston. Ring friction, more combustion fumes are contaminating the oil in new motors for the same reason. These fumes embed sludge, deposits and chemicals in the oil that will more rapidly breakdown, bearings, and seals that are critical to the function of the motor. Change your oil with high quality oil early and often.
3k oil changes haven't been a thing since conventional oil. Synthetic blends/full Synthetic good for 5k plus miles depending on the brand you use. But it's not actually about your oil! Or not entirely. All engines burn oil diffrent such as engines with turbos or gdi motors which do burn oil sometimes (depending on brand)before 3k miles. My advice is check your oil regularly if you have a dip stick that is. Some cars don't. If you begin to burn oil around 3k miles I recommend better oil and changing your oil as soon as it does to prevent slug build up in the engine block.
Followed my Acura service schedule for 10k oil changes and the engine started burning oil within 40-45k miles. Started doing 5k intervals on a CX5 and it burns a fraction of what the Acura did. Obviously not an apples-to-apples comparison but it hints at something. I’ll stick to 5k for peace of mind.
In general I like to change my oil every Tuesday or Wednesday, I feel like changing the oil weekly provides me with good protection and it's not really very costly as people think it is. I tried to push it sometimes and I'll do it once every 10 days instead of weekly but I just like to stay on the safe side😂😊
Totally lazy and irresponsible waiting 10 days
@@GDavis49 😂😂😂😂
Why taking the risk?
Even leading companies like Amsoil
Recommend changing more often if some kind of risk you are facing with your engine
Oil is inexpensive compared to a engine rebuild. I drive a 6.7 Powerstroke and it takes 13 quarts of oil and filter is like 15-20$ so I’m in about 100$ to change the oil myself. Far cheaper than 10k for a new engine
10k and more??? Bro stop making people Damage their cars. I have a 2011 Corolla S , WITH 342k miles. Been using full synthetic oil since I bought it. Changed my oil and filter every 5k miles. still going
Metal shavings is not a normal thing if the engine is well kept. Only reason to go past 5k miles is if it’s full synthetic
Big-rig diesel trucks get an oil change every 30,000 mi. and routinely go a million miles between engine overhauls. In a _gasoline_ engine the most important thing is to change your oil _sometime._
No I feel fine with every 3k miles
My vehicle specification says change the oil every 7,000 to 7,5000 miles. I put about 7,000 miles a year on my car, so I change my oil at least twice a year or every 5 to 6 months or every 3,500 miles depends on what comes first. I use synthetic oil for my vehicle. Whatever the manufacturer says about oil change mileage, I cut that in half.
The real scam is what this guy is saying.
My car is 18 years old and at 209k miles, been through a few owners before me. Oil seems to have been the only thing maintained. I’m not going to deal with an engine blowing while I’m still working out the other issues. I’ll stick to my owners manual and do my changes at every 3k miles.
I do oil changes every 3k mainly because I have a sludge prone engine, but also because I want it to last, it’s already 25 yrs old and going strong at 185k miles
I usually go 5-7000km with full synthetic. EGR, turbos, VCT, and all that high tech stuff dirties the oil more, and I don’t drive that much so I usually get 3-5 months on an oil change
Far to often
@@riba2233 Ecoboost engines have problems with sludge going with longer oil change intervals, sorry for taking care of my engine
@@aidanbrooks771 15000km is not a longer interval, if anything can also be considered far more often than needed. 7000 is just ridiculous and wasting money.
@@riba2233 15000km is way too long on an oil change, I’m sorry but that is far far too long. 7-10000km is a reasonable range and I only go shorter on my engine because I want it to last and the engines genuinely have sludge problems if they go with longer intervals. I ran it once till about 12k because I was doing a ton of long drives because of family stuff and the oil that came out of it was beyond dirty. I don’t care if I end up spending 30$ more over a year doing an extra oil change if it means that I am not running some Spider-Man symbiote looking shit through my car to “get the max life out of the oil”
@@riba2233 "and wasting money." For my car only 55 Euro DIY with premium brand oil and filter. 55 Euro is what a mechanic costs to drive your car into the shop and zip coffee.