We assembled this and it worked perfectly. Dropped the temperature by 35-40 degrees. But, we inserted first aid ice packs, instead of bagged ice, so they are re-freezable (and no melted water to drain). Thank you!
One thing to keep in mind, due to the lack of a seal, you won't get any airflow once your ice melts and the pipes are submerged in water. So adding a tap will also help in this regard in addition to easily draining the water.
No, he didn't improve the hack. He made it worse. As soon as the ice starts to melt, the blowing will cause humid air to blow into the room, effectively making it a swamp cooler. The best option is to use bottled water or gallon jugs, so you are only cooling air without increasing humidity. Generating cooler air means the ice will melt faster - if he had taken any physics or thermodynamics courses, he would know. In situations like this, it's best to prolong the cooling effect even if it means it cool a few degrees less. You'd have to think about how quickly your frig can make ice... to keep this setup running.
Feel that lol. Currently building a better swamp cooler for the truck I live in XD Has to have a different design from this one, but I still learned quite a bit from this video early on when I made my first one!
Also homeless... in florida... in summer. Haha. Gonna see if this will keep my car cold at night so I dont have to roll down the windows and get murdered. It's the little things.
I'm pretty sure salt INCREASES the melting temperature thus ice will melt faster... as for decreasing the temperature, I dont believe salt will make a difference
I made one of these like 20years ago when i worked in a snack stand on the 12th T at a golf course. With a small grill in there it would get up around 100degrees in there in the summer. I used a 5gal bucket with lid. Cut hole in the lid for a fan. Cut hole in the side of bucket for cold air to come out. Had 2 milk jugs filled with water. 1 in bucket 1 in freezer and as 1 melted swap for the frozen. Worked amazing, and the ingenuity got me some extra tips and compliments from the members lol
@@ryanleiderman9622 only reason i see for the pvc is to direct the air in the direction of your choice. If you dont mind the cold air just flowing into the room, then you dont need them. With my design in the 5gal bucket, the hole in the side is the exhaust so no need for pvc
Without the bottles, it is a swamp cooler. It's called swamp because it turns your room into a swamp moisture-wise. You could try suspending the bottles and filling them with a mix of water and isopropyl alcohol. This will bring down the temperature of the bottles when put in the freezer and keep the water from freezing solid. With that, you should get convection current inside each bottle to keep the temperature lower.
My thought was why not use some recycled food cans or soda cans with a stopper or seal them somehow to create a "cold cell" with thermally conductive shell rather than plastic since it tends to insulate a bit more.
I'm sure the reason Household Hacker used water bottles, besides the advantages you mentioned, was to prevent humidity from being added to the outgoing air. Regular a/c systems dry the air by condensing the moisture on the evaporator coils. Water bottles will accomplish the same thing, with moisture condensing on the surface of the bottles. Without the barrier of the plastic bottles, wouldn't the warm incoming air evaporate some of the water off the melting ice?
@@Θάνατος-ξ4ψ I kno it’s a been a year since ur comment but It struck my funny bone. Going thru all the scientific comments then reading yours….CLASSIC🤣🤣🤪🤪
Condensing moisture on evaporator coil removes latent heat, this is wasteful when you are trying to reduce sensible heat. Evaporative cooling does actually reduce sensible heat. All a bit confusing!
I just made my first cooler...and it works!!. Going to try all of his suggestions to see how much it will cool. Oregon/Washington are in a major heat wave. I have no airconditioning These instructions are very clear and its a great video. But I had to use a pair of pliers to remove the fan cover. All in all, it cost me $20 and took 10 minutes. Thankyou .
Found a flaw. I built one of these, this morning. It worked great for about a half hour, but then enough ice melted that the bottom of the pipes were submerged in water and wouldn't allow air flow. I would stick to the plastic bottles, or maybe freeze water in metal pipe segments.
Thanks so much for the idea. I just built mine on a bigger scale, using a Tupperware container. With the room sealed off (all the windows and doors closed), it actually does do something for the room temperature. Thanks so much! The idea works really well
Xarc what a deuchy comment, "just sit there with a calculator pausing and converting every 10 seconds! what's the fuss ay?!" lol. Let's see your attitude if it was celsius only. Deuche.
Onside Superior, I'm not sure if you're trying to be helpful or facetious? Anyone with half a brain is capable of converting it, the point is it's inconvenient and disrupts the flow of the video, furthermore it only takes HIM a brief second to press the button.
Some interesting tweaks to the original design minus the use of ice cubes. Polystyrene coolers sweat and do in fact leak liquids. Yes its very slow but they do still leak so its not something you want to use indoors if your putting ice cubes in it. Not to mention this thing will lose effectiveness once enough ice cubes melt and the waterline gets above your intakes at the bottom and you have to deal with a cooler full of water too. Cold packs or frozen bottles is the way to go.
Pretty impressive, though I believe one problem with the free ice cube design is that once the ice melts if the water rises to the opening of the PVC pipes the system doesn't work anymore.
I really like your videos but PLEASE add some kind of disclaimer that this project can NOT BE DONE WITH DRY ICE! There are so many dry ice fanatics in your community and I think it is a great risk not to mention the risk of asphyxiation that would come with dry ice due to the CO2! Great Video nevertheless!
This is my favorite video to share for summer help in ferret groups. They're so heat sensitive and I am always stressing people CAN do something to help them for cheap. Thanks for including your costs as well♡
Raw ice melts incredibly fast though. I use the thin freeze packs and did something similar to the grate at the bottom only instead of ice on top I made an array of the freeze packs so that they were barely separated from each other forcing the air between the packs. Used wooden rods to do the spacing like you did for the grate support. However I used a much larger foam chest and it would last at least five hours under the lowest fan setting before finally petering out. To refreeze I simply stuck the entire thing minus the fan into a chest freezer.
Curious if you could modify it so that it sprays water at you at the same time, similar to how an air brush works, or the shampoo sucked up the house when using carpet cleaner attached to the tap
Problem with ice cubes instead of bottles is that, once the ice starts melting and water fills the gaps between the cubes, air can no longer circulate around the cubes but only over the top surface of the ice and water mixture. Together, the AREA of the cooling-surface and the temperature differential between the cooling-surface and the flowing air, determines the rate at which the cooling-surface absorbs heat energy from the air. So, you will get a bigger cooling effect at first, but the cooling effect will drop off rapidly as the surface area over which the air can flow decreases. Once all of the ice is floating in water, you'll get almost no cooling effect even tho the mix of ice and water remains at 32F and still has the capacity to absorb a lot of energy. The outflow temp might continue to be a degree of so less than the inflow temp, but not enough to be noticeably cooler. At that point, you'll need to start over again with fresh ice. With the ice and water contained in bottles, the area of cooling-surface remains constant. Therefore the system should continue to cool at pretty much a constant rate until ALL of the ice has melted. So, although at first you get less of a cooling effect with the original system, I think that it will provide more overall cooling (i.e., temp drop x length of time). If 10 degrees of cooling is enough to make your space reasonably comfortable, the original system is probably better. And, a problem with the final system shown in the video (where the vent tubes down to an air gap between two layers of ice) is that if the upper layer contains much ice, as it melts it could raise the water level up to the bottom of the vent tubes. At that point, air won't be able to circulate at all! The bottom line is that the amount of heat energy that the ice will absorb as it melts is a CONSTANT and depends only upon the amount of ice that you start with. Cold water can then absorb a much smaller amount of heat energy until it reaches ambient air temperature. Again, this is a CONSTANT amount that depends on the amount of H2O you start with and the just how hot the air is. You can do things to make the ice and cold water absorb energy more quickly and thus cause a bigger initial temperature drop, but you can't make it absorb more energy except by using more ice. Thus, the more "cooling effect" you get (i.e., the bigger the initial temperature drop), the less TIME the system will continue to cool.
I tried this on a 5 inch by 5 inch box. I used a 3 inch fan and the 2 inch pipes on the side (it kinda looked like it had horns.) I filled it half way with ice (the ac doesn’t reach my top bunk where my sister sleeps so she’s always sweating to death) it cooled down my entire room and I have the second biggest room in the house. I think the small scale works best, being small, cheap and convenient. It works really well and cools down a whole room. I’m sure the big one works though. I think this one is cuter though because I painted it like a ram (duh pink fur) and gave it a really chibi face.
Speaking from experience, one problem with using direct contact of air to ice is that it actually increases the humidity of the air in the room you're trying to cool, making it more difficult to cool. Stick to using re-freezable containers like gel-packs, small water bottles, pill bottles, fake ice cubes, etc. Perhaps using some kind of metallic mesh might also help cool more air in the same time interval. Optimum performance is going to be some compromise of how fast the airflow is (slower makes cooler air) and what you can tolerate as a delta-T.
Reusable ice cube making bags. Makes it easier for regular use and creates the larger surface area exposure you get fro the cubes. Just ordered a bunch and going to make something similar for indoor grow space. Have been having real temp control issues in there and this udea is going to save a fortune. Whilst also allowing me to upcycle materials I already gave. Thanks for sharing this x
I read a description in the a book about adobe buildings in Iran . The building was designed with water storage in a basement and a wind catching structure ( like a chimney) reaching above the building.
@@TrevinBoyce Why would you require an air conditioner live at North Michigan where the temperature never soars above 76°F? I mean that is the mean temperature in the middle of December in India!
Niladri Manna actually, I live there too and over the past few weeks we have had a heat wave and it has basically been above 90 degrees every day. It just recently cooled down to mid 80’s.
the design is only suppose to work with bottled ice/water, hence preventing a mess or for the pipes to get covered by water. I use to use ice before and honestly it melts to quick and only works for a little bit , bottled big jugs of water last longer. But the biggest advantage IN MY OPINION is that it wont create so much humidity as much as using ice does. I live in one of the most humid places in this earth and using bottles is the best way to go
Right my tough as well, I guess there is no fix for that, maybe using frozen tin cans or metal bottles below and a metal container on top that will hold the water
@@NeoBlueBearZchannel I did the same thing, plus you have to make or buy enough ice every day and then dump the water out. Frozen water bottles work way better. You just have extras freezing and rotate them.
If you use ice cubes, they'll melt. The water level will rise over your PVC downtubes and then they won't function. It's better to make it the way Household Hacker did and leave it un-modded in my opinion.
Or even COARSE salt. Wintertime Ice Melt salt (calcium chloride) for extra-cold cold air. But using any kind of salt is also more of a mess, and can't easily be re-used, unless you use the salt solution in plastic bottles. Then you will need a 'deep freeze' to freeze them.
Dad always used dry ice and taped it around the cooler so the lid wouldn’t pop off from filling it to the top. It works great. Dad did use regular ice too but we found the dry ice works way better. This is coming from Arizona idk about your area but it’s honestly a basic swamp cooler. Try it out I’m in wpb now and I still use it for the dogs in the summer and it helps loads
You don't want to drain the water the cold water works to keep the rest of the ice cold. After the ice is melted you're still left with cold water. If you dump the water the ice will melt faster.
I actually used this in my car for the 2 weeks I had no AC in the summer lmao I had to rig a car outlet adapter on it and it the very bottom i used dry ice with regular ice on the top and there was an incredibly noticable dif. I have a black car with black interior. During the summer it gets hot enough that the metal part of the seat belt will actually burn you and if your wearing shorts the seats are very uncomfortable for a while. It was recently with the heat index 116 where I live so you can imagine how hot the car gets when 100 degree days arnt at all uncommon in the summer. Now I will admit the fan I used while roughly the same size only a little bigger was considerably more powerful and instead of the styrofoam box I used an actual igloo cooler that really holds the cold in better. And I didnt use ice cubes I used those packs kids put in their lunch box that have a lower freezing point than water. And I did have dry ice in the very bottom but it worked very well infact on the top setting on the fan after about 20 mins you'd start getting cold. I'd recommend this in your car if your ac goes out in the car. As for a whole room.. doubtful, a closet would work though lol or if your room was harry Potter's broom closet xD
Great modifications! I made one like the original when our AC broke. Keeps a room at least tolerable. I gave mine away after awhile, but now I want to make another one. Lol!
You should have used a pipe with the fan only. (Just like blowing in a straw.) That way the fan is blowing into the ice, and when it melts you don't have to drain the water. (Like a swamp cooler) You could have gotten lower temperatures that way. Also use a stronger fan that has a concentrated air flow.
@Criminal Scum think of a cup with water and a straw, then blow into the straw. The fan is blowing into a tube that goes in the ice water the same way. Air is flowing through the water and comes out cooled. You'll hear bubbles.
I recommend using coldpacks (reusable icepacks) and arrange them in a radiator style in the box like [|||||||] so air can flow between them. They stay colder longer and are much more cost-effective than ice cubes.
It would also solve the condensation problem. Using frozen water eventually causes a buildup of condensation in the room which could make matters worse. Using a gel based ice pack would significantly lessen that problem.
Everyone needs to understand that if you use ice made in a freezer that’s INSIDE your house, you will end up INCREASING the temperature overall. This is why real a/c units always release their heat outside. If you use a garage to freeze ice and then bring it inside, that would work. But thermodynamics says the overall heat in the system will increase while running a motor to freeze ice and another motor to power a fan. And one more thing, the cooler the air, the shorter it will last. Getting colder air does not mean it’s any more “efficient”. Another way of thinking about it is that the room will heat the ice up faster, the better your design lets the hot air flow through the ice.
Trey Moore What if the "ac" container is placed within a container of dry ice that is sealed to the diy "ac"? By sealed i mean so the Co2 doesn't escape in the room, it could have a hose leading outside to leak out the Co2. Does this make any sense?
Yes and no. Air dissipates and with it the heat it carries. You will make the kitchen hotter, big deal. That extra heat and air will be negligible in the next room already.But if you put ice to cool the air that is directly next to you and blow directly on your skin, that is a difference that you can feel.
The only problem with using bare ice cubes is that you'll also be blowing humidity into the room which, once the ice runs out, will make the room feel warmer in a hurry
i think replacing the PVC pipes with copper pipes touching the ice will decrease temperature significantly, if there is copper pipes with that size in the market!!!!
You can just wet a towel and put it inside. The process of water evaporating removes heat from the surroundings, it's how a so-called swamp cooler works. No ice needed!
Just so ya know. If u do enclose a medium size room, and keep it semi dark.... It definitely does help alot. Its not a true ac of course, but hey if youre in need in a camper, or if your electrics out, or just wanna do it.... Try one out. Two of them is perf in my opinion❤✅💥
One trade-off of frozen bottles vs loose ice is the duration of cool air you can make. Loose ice makes colder air because it's exchanging heat with the incoming air more quickly. This means ice will melt more quickly.
So 2 questions, you mention it "lasts for a while" but how long is a while, i mean the hot air intake will melt the ice but how long are we talking? secondly, how about possibly making a mini version that might be more desk friendly, not sure what you could use as a container, thinking maybe an insulated small bucket, the kind you would get for the beach with maybe some sort of small computer fan, could even rig up a battery bank for it seeing as the fan would use a lot less power etc
You could use a paint can but have the exhaust port cut in the bottom and the fan in the opening for the lid. I would recommend water bottles for that though so that water doesn't leak onto your desk.
One thing to note this is actually an evaporative air cooler i.e. a swamp cooler. Because it works by adding cool moisture to hot dry air it will not be very successful if you live in a humid climate. An actual air conditioner works by removing moisture from humid the air thus lower the air temperature and humidity. If you live in a dry heat area this cooler unit will work well enough. If you live in a humid place this unit will not be very useful since the air is already very saturated with hot moisture and adding a wee bit of cool moisture will not improve the temperature at all.
Kara Nguyen while similar it wouldn't add nearly as much moisture as an evaporative cooler, those work with average temp water soaked pads, this is using ice to cool off the air flowing through the styrofoam box.
No idea what the original poster of this thread had in mind for an AC unit, but real AC unit are heat pumps. They take a pressurized gas, compress it, and that compressed gas/(now liquid) heats up. That hot fluid passes through a cooler to remove the heat. That's why the outside of an AC units venting system is hot. That now cooled liquid enters and expansion chamber where it expands, and in that process of expansion, consumes heat. The opposite process of the compression cycle. Inside air is circulated through a radiator with that cold gas/liquid and chills the room. Humidity of the room makes no difference in how cold it gets, just how long it takes to get cold.
Thanks for this! I live in my car a few days a week when I'm working, and it gets incredibly hot inside. The only way to cool it is to open the door with a fan by the door. But when I'm sleeping, I don't like leaving the door open. So I'm doing a version of this but using ice blocks, ice packs, and plastic ice cubes as I don't want any accidental spillages. I can also keep it running while I'm asleep too.
Send the cold air through a tube in the center and up and out the sides. That way it self cools the intake tube and forces all the cold air out. Also you can put more ice in the box without worrying about water getting into the exhaust tubes.
All of these DIY ice foam cooler air conditioners are actually closer to swamp coolers than true A/Cs. In other words, they humidify the room while they cool it. This is fine for dry desert climates, where humidifying the dry air is preferred. But it is absolutely NOT fine for places with humid summers. Not only will it be more uncomfortable (cold and clammy feeling), but you are also providing optimal conditions for mold to grow on surfaces (wet and cool air). Modern window A/Cs have the downside of being noisy, kinda expensive to purchase, expensive to operate, and expensive to fix if they break. But they are designed to cool your room while also drying the air, especially of they are sized correctly (meaning that they aren't too powerful so that they cool the whole room before they can fully dehumidify the air). The DIY swamp coolers are simply BS and useless for all but the driest summer conditions. In fact, any A/C that claims it can cool your room through evaporating cold water is nothing but a swamp cooler. This includes this DIY ice foam cooler as well as those mini desk A/C's that you see advertised of FB and other social media. If the A/C does not have a drain to either send water outside or into a container that you need to periodically empty out, it is not drying your room. In fact, it's making your room wetter.
We assembled this and it worked perfectly. Dropped the temperature by 35-40 degrees. But, we inserted first aid ice packs, instead of bagged ice, so they are re-freezable (and no melted water to drain). Thank you!
How long before you have to replace the ice packs?
how long did the packs last?
But did it drop the temperature of the room?
How long did it last?
How long it lasted depends on the ambient temperature at the time so we’d have to know that as well
One thing to keep in mind, due to the lack of a seal, you won't get any airflow once your ice melts and the pipes are submerged in water. So adding a tap will also help in this regard in addition to easily draining the water.
or a valve that opens after a certain weight
No, he didn't improve the hack. He made it worse. As soon as the ice starts to melt, the blowing will cause humid air to blow into the room, effectively making it a swamp cooler. The best option is to use bottled water or gallon jugs, so you are only cooling air without increasing humidity. Generating cooler air means the ice will melt faster - if he had taken any physics or thermodynamics courses, he would know. In situations like this, it's best to prolong the cooling effect even if it means it cool a few degrees less. You'd have to think about how quickly your frig can make ice... to keep this setup running.
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My thoughts exactly
Ok, I have the cooler, I have the bottles, and I have the ice and plastic screen. Now all I need is a house...............
Feel that lol. Currently building a better swamp cooler for the truck I live in XD Has to have a different design from this one, but I still learned quite a bit from this video early on when I made my first one!
😂😂😂 u and me both im homeless
@@DirtyInvestor87 Yikes, you have it worse than I
Also homeless... in florida... in summer. Haha. Gonna see if this will keep my car cold at night so I dont have to roll down the windows and get murdered. It's the little things.
@@angelapiccolella1491 I was actually only joking and I am sorry if you really are homeless.
I'm making one right now. Adding salt to the ice with make the melting point lower so the air will be even colder.
wait a minute doesn't salt dissolve the ice? and I'm just going by from wintertime putting salt out on Ice floor.
It makes it colder but also melts it quicker 🤔
I'm pretty sure salt INCREASES the melting temperature thus ice will melt faster... as for decreasing the temperature, I dont believe salt will make a difference
Salt kills houseplants just sayin
@@rajnbull I believe she's freezing salt water which does require lower temperatures to freeze. Because it is colder the ice will melt faster however
I made one of these like 20years ago when i worked in a snack stand on the 12th T at a golf course. With a small grill in there it would get up around 100degrees in there in the summer. I used a 5gal bucket with lid. Cut hole in the lid for a fan. Cut hole in the side of bucket for cold air to come out. Had 2 milk jugs filled with water. 1 in bucket 1 in freezer and as 1 melted swap for the frozen. Worked amazing, and the ingenuity got me some extra tips and compliments from the members lol
Is there any benefit to using the pvc pipes then?
@@ryanleiderman9622 only reason i see for the pvc is to direct the air in the direction of your choice. If you dont mind the cold air just flowing into the room, then you dont need them. With my design in the 5gal bucket, the hole in the side is the exhaust so no need for pvc
Yeah but did it get u laid
Without the bottles, it is a swamp cooler. It's called swamp because it turns your room into a swamp moisture-wise. You could try suspending the bottles and filling them with a mix of water and isopropyl alcohol. This will bring down the temperature of the bottles when put in the freezer and keep the water from freezing solid. With that, you should get convection current inside each bottle to keep the temperature lower.
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My thought was why not use some recycled food cans or soda cans with a stopper or seal them somehow to create a "cold cell" with thermally conductive shell rather than plastic since it tends to insulate a bit more.
Big brain time
or buy plastic coated re-usable ice cubes!!!
it's inside of an insulated cooler though... not running a fan through a towel soaked in water
I'm sure the reason Household Hacker used water bottles, besides the advantages you mentioned, was to prevent humidity from being added to the outgoing air. Regular a/c systems dry the air by condensing the moisture on the evaporator coils. Water bottles will accomplish the same thing, with moisture condensing on the surface of the bottles. Without the barrier of the plastic bottles, wouldn't the warm incoming air evaporate some of the water off the melting ice?
wow u guys are real scientists
i be like : open frigde and place a fan in front of it
Whitbypoppers you're quite right.
@@Θάνατος-ξ4ψ I kno it’s a been a year since ur comment but It struck my funny bone. Going thru all the scientific comments then reading yours….CLASSIC🤣🤣🤪🤪
@@micheleromaine7782 lol right
Condensing moisture on evaporator coil removes latent heat, this is wasteful when you are trying to reduce sensible heat. Evaporative cooling does actually reduce sensible heat. All a bit confusing!
I just made my first cooler...and it works!!. Going to try all of his suggestions to see how much it will cool. Oregon/Washington are in a major heat wave. I have no airconditioning These instructions are very clear and its a great video. But I had to use a pair of pliers to remove the fan cover. All in all, it cost me $20 and took 10 minutes. Thankyou .
This is a brilliant idea! Now I can make an AC for my dog when I'm out for work! That wouldkeep her cool :)
Found a flaw. I built one of these, this morning. It worked great for about a half hour, but then enough ice melted that the bottom of the pipes were submerged in water and wouldn't allow air flow. I would stick to the plastic bottles, or maybe freeze water in metal pipe segments.
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Who else has the hottest room in their house 😂
Me. My ps4 gets to hot and shuts itself off
Same with me, my xb1 gets sizzling frickin hot
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Thanks so much for the idea. I just built mine on a bigger scale, using a Tupperware container. With the room sealed off (all the windows and doors closed), it actually does do something for the room temperature. Thanks so much! The idea works really well
Simple. Cheap. And effective.
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Could you always include Celsius for your international viewers please? I think a lot of people would appreciate it.
Joel Fletcher just covert it. It's not that hard.
Xarc what a deuchy comment, "just sit there with a calculator pausing and converting every 10 seconds! what's the fuss ay?!" lol. Let's see your attitude if it was celsius only. Deuche.
snakeshit oh well it is what it is.
Onside Superior, I'm not sure if you're trying to be helpful or facetious? Anyone with half a brain is capable of converting it, the point is it's inconvenient and disrupts the flow of the video, furthermore it only takes HIM a brief second to press the button.
Did you skip the parts where he showed both or something...?
Can we use this for a cheap gaming setup?
Vanderley5974X yeah you can play fortnite at 666fps
Vanderley5974X Lol air cooled noob. just keep your pc in a bucket of ice water ez cooling
Someone CC Linus
Vanderley5974X Ice one probably not it would melt over time which would make it humid destroying your gaming setup
Vanderley5974X lol I was just thinking that
Some interesting tweaks to the original design minus the use of ice cubes. Polystyrene coolers sweat and do in fact leak liquids. Yes its very slow but they do still leak so its not something you want to use indoors if your putting ice cubes in it. Not to mention this thing will lose effectiveness once enough ice cubes melt and the waterline gets above your intakes at the bottom and you have to deal with a cooler full of water too. Cold packs or frozen bottles is the way to go.
Pretty impressive, though I believe one problem with the free ice cube design is that once the ice melts if the water rises to the opening of the PVC pipes the system doesn't work anymore.
You could install a drip tray inside the cooler and small pipe to allow the water to flow out the cooler
I really like your videos but PLEASE add some kind of disclaimer that this project can NOT BE DONE WITH DRY ICE!
There are so many dry ice fanatics in your community and I think it is a great risk not to mention the risk of asphyxiation that would come with dry ice due to the CO2!
Great Video nevertheless!
uppp, those retards need to know this
Nah dont, if those retards dont know How dangerous that is then its basically mother-nature rolling out some natural-selection :^)
yakes,true
How about using pycrete ice blocks to make the ice last longer? It may not be as cold but I think it double the time that it keeps you cool.
@@Recomeçar-Denovo well instead of saying retards educate them some people don't know that dry ice is Co2
This is my favorite video to share for summer help in ferret groups. They're so heat sensitive and I am always stressing people CAN do something to help them for cheap. Thanks for including your costs as well♡
Raw ice melts incredibly fast though. I use the thin freeze packs and did something similar to the grate at the bottom only instead of ice on top I made an array of the freeze packs so that they were barely separated from each other forcing the air between the packs. Used wooden rods to do the spacing like you did for the grate support. However I used a much larger foam chest and it would last at least five hours under the lowest fan setting before finally petering out. To refreeze I simply stuck the entire thing minus the fan into a chest freezer.
You could even install a small tap near the bottom of the cooler so that you can get ice cold water as the ice melts.
I sure love me some dust filled cold water in the summer! Yum!
OR, just to get the water out since it'll block the tubes.
M-T how when the tube is in the top
KYLAN oh makes sense forgot he added a tube down
Curious if you could modify it so that it sprays water at you at the same time, similar to how an air brush works, or the shampoo sucked up the house when using carpet cleaner attached to the tap
*THIS IS VERY USEFUL IN THE PHILIPPINES!*
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Longswordx9 GT exactly lol, theres like, two typhoons already in 1 week
Next year summer
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ShawnOrillosa my family is from the Philippines
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Problem with ice cubes instead of bottles is that, once the ice starts melting and water fills the gaps between the cubes, air can no longer circulate around the cubes but only over the top surface of the ice and water mixture. Together, the AREA of the cooling-surface and the temperature differential between the cooling-surface and the flowing air, determines the rate at which the cooling-surface absorbs heat energy from the air. So, you will get a bigger cooling effect at first, but the cooling effect will drop off rapidly as the surface area over which the air can flow decreases. Once all of the ice is floating in water, you'll get almost no cooling effect even tho the mix of ice and water remains at 32F and still has the capacity to absorb a lot of energy. The outflow temp might continue to be a degree of so less than the inflow temp, but not enough to be noticeably cooler. At that point, you'll need to start over again with fresh ice.
With the ice and water contained in bottles, the area of cooling-surface remains constant. Therefore the system should continue to cool at pretty much a constant rate until ALL of the ice has melted. So, although at first you get less of a cooling effect with the original system, I think that it will provide more overall cooling (i.e., temp drop x length of time). If 10 degrees of cooling is enough to make your space reasonably comfortable, the original system is probably better.
And, a problem with the final system shown in the video (where the vent tubes down to an air gap between two layers of ice) is that if the upper layer contains much ice, as it melts it could raise the water level up to the bottom of the vent tubes. At that point, air won't be able to circulate at all!
The bottom line is that the amount of heat energy that the ice will absorb as it melts is a CONSTANT and depends only upon the amount of ice that you start with. Cold water can then absorb a much smaller amount of heat energy until it reaches ambient air temperature. Again, this is a CONSTANT amount that depends on the amount of H2O you start with and the just how hot the air is. You can do things to make the ice and cold water absorb energy more quickly and thus cause a bigger initial temperature drop, but you can't make it absorb more energy except by using more ice. Thus, the more "cooling effect" you get (i.e., the bigger the initial temperature drop), the less TIME the system will continue to cool.
I tried this on a 5 inch by 5 inch box. I used a 3 inch fan and the 2 inch pipes on the side (it kinda looked like it had horns.) I filled it half way with ice (the ac doesn’t reach my top bunk where my sister sleeps so she’s always sweating to death) it cooled down my entire room and I have the second biggest room in the house. I think the small scale works best, being small, cheap and convenient. It works really well and cools down a whole room. I’m sure the big one works though. I think this one is cuter though because I painted it like a ram (duh pink fur) and gave it a really chibi face.
Lol😂
whats the ambient temperature in your room? and whats the after temperature?
Awesome! Thanks emma!
Speaking from experience, one problem with using direct contact of air to ice is that it actually increases the humidity of the air in the room you're trying to cool, making it more difficult to cool. Stick to using re-freezable containers like gel-packs, small water bottles, pill bottles, fake ice cubes, etc. Perhaps using some kind of metallic mesh might also help cool more air in the same time interval. Optimum performance is going to be some compromise of how fast the airflow is (slower makes cooler air) and what you can tolerate as a delta-T.
Yes if u live in high desert like mine the humidity there is 16%
chaka
this saved my life last summer it's amazing
Reusable ice cube making bags. Makes it easier for regular use and creates the larger surface area exposure you get fro the cubes. Just ordered a bunch and going to make something similar for indoor grow space. Have been having real temp control issues in there and this udea is going to save a fortune. Whilst also allowing me to upcycle materials I already gave. Thanks for sharing this x
Aussie kids where we all at? Being from Straya in the middle of.summer with no aircon I'm literally making this now. Thanks
Did you make it yet. Please let me know how it turned out. For how long does it provide cooling?
Put a keg spout at the bottom that way you keep cool and get ice water
refreezable icecubes should solve the "not reusable" problem nicely. since cubes work better than bottles. and no leaks .
@@GuillaumeB7 A big part of the idea was for this to be cheap. Metal bottles wipe that notion out, unless, like the fan, you already have them.
a refreezable icecube is literally just a waterbottle without a cap. the shell stops the cold from transferring to the air the same.
That's a better idea, since it won't soak the air in your room with water vapour.
@@greenaum There's not much water vapour coming off even a melting ice cube.
@@bpj1805 Assuming you change it, the minute it finally melts.
I read a description in the a book about adobe buildings in Iran . The building was designed with water storage in a basement and a wind catching structure ( like a chimney) reaching above the building.
If my ambient was 72 F I wouldn't any of these
LOL I was thinking the same, such an unrealistic test I want to cool a room that is at 80-90 degrees, not 72 duh
Mine is at 102 HELP
My room is at 40c or about 104f or so and it’s like this again tomorrow and the day after
@@eman210rocks2 itll work. My house was similar temp today. Close all doors and stay in one room. Multiple coolers as well
@@junkman4126 I mean they drop the air temp almost 30 degrees. If u want it it cooler make more
3:00 a cute lil frog is staring at me ;v;
Yess 😁😄😆😆😆😆
Lol!
I don’t even have air conditioning in my house. I just have a heater and a fan. This will help me!
Where do you live that you require both a heater and an air conditioner?
I live up north in Michigan
@suqargum Well living around the equator I have four air conditioners and no heaters, go figure.
@@TrevinBoyce Why would you require an air conditioner live at North Michigan where the temperature never soars above 76°F? I mean that is the mean temperature in the middle of December in India!
Niladri Manna actually, I live there too and over the past few weeks we have had a heat wave and it has basically been above 90 degrees every day. It just recently cooled down to mid 80’s.
This is very informative idea for the million people spcially in the tropical country. Thank you very much for sharing this video.
Imagine if everything had rubber seals, it would work even better. Great video.
Sideshow The Game Freak he could use the puddy to plug hole!
I'm confused as to how this design would work when the ice melts and the 2" pipes are then below the waterline.
the design is only suppose to work with bottled ice/water, hence preventing a mess or for the pipes to get covered by water. I use to use ice before and honestly it melts to quick and only works for a little bit , bottled big jugs of water last longer. But the biggest advantage IN MY OPINION is that it wont create so much humidity as much as using ice does. I live in one of the most humid places in this earth and using bottles is the best way to go
I would use ice cube sheets for coolers, personally. In tandem with water bottles.
Right my tough as well, I guess there is no fix for that, maybe using frozen tin cans or metal bottles below and a metal container on top that will hold the water
@@NeoBlueBearZchannel I did the same thing, plus you have to make or buy enough ice every day and then dump the water out. Frozen water bottles work way better. You just have extras freezing and rotate them.
@@hypat1aawhat are sheets
Next time heat your knife in a toaster to help it cut the foam easier ;)
South Main Auto Repair If Knife touches the toaster's metal shielding? Wouldn't be there is current in knife?
He just did a video sticking a knife in a toaster is why I mentioned it. Just being silly is all.
Eric O. What's up man?
South Main Auto Repair 😂😂😂
Hey! Aren't you supposed to be showing me how to keep my car on the road?! :)
If you use ice cubes, they'll melt. The water level will rise over your PVC downtubes and then they won't function. It's better to make it the way Household Hacker did and leave it un-modded in my opinion.
I was waiting for him to address the moment when it becomes the guy who exhales into the bong lmao
Do a Video of how long the AC lasts. Like the affect of the temperature coming out after an hour
Nicholas Nielsen it’s not gonna change the room all that much. However I put it at the end of my bed and it definitely keeps me much more comfortable!
@@Rap1stt I'd like to know how long the ice lasts. I like the water bottles because they are reusable. And less mess dumping water.
Make a rocket that has colored smoke when it launches. Or when it's coming down it has colored smoke as it's coming down.
Λ C C Ξ N D I U M I think he might have down that already
I like the step-by-step modifications done. Great video!!
Thank you very much 🙏
Spread course salt over the ice to dramatically lower the temperature of the melt water.
Or even COARSE salt. Wintertime Ice Melt salt (calcium chloride) for extra-cold cold air. But using any kind of salt is also more of a mess, and can't easily be re-used, unless you use the salt solution in plastic bottles. Then you will need a 'deep freeze' to freeze them.
In exchange of the ice melting 10 times faster😂😂
Dad always used dry ice and taped it around the cooler so the lid wouldn’t pop off from filling it to the top. It works great. Dad did use regular ice too but we found the dry ice works way better. This is coming from Arizona idk about your area but it’s honestly a basic swamp cooler. Try it out I’m in wpb now and I still use it for the dogs in the summer and it helps loads
Where do you buy dry ice?
@@72planes our k mart sold it I’m sure you could get it in a number of different places now
What would happen if you put copper pipes spiring in the pvc pipes? Perhaps even cap the copper off and fill it with coolant... maybe?
A Excellent Video.. Highly Recommended.. Thank You Very Much Bro. For Sharing..
Who else is watching from Australia during these bushfires?
My great aunt is
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Needs a way to drain the melt water... perhaps re-use the spigot from a cheap box of wine.
How about just dump it
@@rob4mma the wine or the water?
@@spidercubed9718 I'll take the water and not he wine
tubing attached to the side into a gallon.
You don't want to drain the water the cold water works to keep the rest of the ice cold. After the ice is melted you're still left with cold water. If you dump the water the ice will melt faster.
This AC BLOWS!! Great Job!! :) :) :)
This might save my life, thanks for the tutorial/ experimenting!
Wow this project is so *cool*
I actually used this in my car for the 2 weeks I had no AC in the summer lmao I had to rig a car outlet adapter on it and it the very bottom i used dry ice with regular ice on the top and there was an incredibly noticable dif. I have a black car with black interior. During the summer it gets hot enough that the metal part of the seat belt will actually burn you and if your wearing shorts the seats are very uncomfortable for a while. It was recently with the heat index 116 where I live so you can imagine how hot the car gets when 100 degree days arnt at all uncommon in the summer. Now I will admit the fan I used while roughly the same size only a little bigger was considerably more powerful and instead of the styrofoam box I used an actual igloo cooler that really holds the cold in better. And I didnt use ice cubes I used those packs kids put in their lunch box that have a lower freezing point than water. And I did have dry ice in the very bottom but it worked very well infact on the top setting on the fan after about 20 mins you'd start getting cold. I'd recommend this in your car if your ac goes out in the car. As for a whole room.. doubtful, a closet would work though lol or if your room was harry Potter's broom closet xD
Great modifications! I made one like the original when our AC broke. Keeps a room at least tolerable. I gave mine away after awhile, but now I want to make another one. Lol!
jedichocccake Nice! How big was the room, and how long did it stay cool?
That's a great idea for people that do tent or van camping 👍.
You should have used a pipe with the fan only. (Just like blowing in a straw.) That way the fan is blowing into the ice, and when it melts you don't have to drain the water. (Like a swamp cooler) You could have gotten lower temperatures that way. Also use a stronger fan that has a concentrated air flow.
@Criminal Scum think of a cup with water and a straw, then blow into the straw. The fan is blowing into a tube that goes in the ice water the same way. Air is flowing through the water and comes out cooled. You'll hear bubbles.
I recommend using coldpacks (reusable icepacks) and arrange them in a radiator style in the box like [|||||||] so air can flow between them. They stay colder longer and are much more cost-effective than ice cubes.
Exactly what I was thinking about. Radiator style or even staggered.
It would also solve the condensation problem. Using frozen water eventually causes a buildup of condensation in the room which could make matters worse. Using a gel based ice pack would significantly lessen that problem.
Everyone needs to understand that if you use ice made in a freezer that’s INSIDE your house, you will end up INCREASING the temperature overall.
This is why real a/c units always release their heat outside. If you use a garage to freeze ice and then bring it inside, that would work. But thermodynamics says the overall heat in the system will increase while running a motor to freeze ice and another motor to power a fan.
And one more thing, the cooler the air, the shorter it will last. Getting colder air does not mean it’s any more “efficient”. Another way of thinking about it is that the room will heat the ice up faster, the better your design lets the hot air flow through the ice.
You could have ice you bought. So a couple of hours of cool for a couple bucks? Not too bad.
Trey Moore
What if the "ac" container is placed within a container of dry ice that is sealed to the diy "ac"?
By sealed i mean so the Co2 doesn't escape in the room, it could have a hose leading outside to leak out the Co2.
Does this make any sense?
That's risky if there are any leaks.
Yes and no. Air dissipates and with it the heat it carries. You will make the kitchen hotter, big deal. That extra heat and air will be negligible in the next room already.But if you put ice to cool the air that is directly next to you and blow directly on your skin, that is a difference that you can feel.
None of this matter if your trying to cool down a room other than the one your refrigerator is in😂😂
Very Very Nice 👍 👍
All, of this, and not once did you decide to add salt to decrease the temperature?
It will decrease the temperature and the working time before the ice melts. Much more work and cost.
The only problem with using bare ice cubes is that you'll also be blowing humidity into the room which, once the ice runs out, will make the room feel warmer in a hurry
i think replacing the PVC pipes with copper pipes touching the ice will decrease temperature significantly, if there is copper pipes with that size in the market!!!!
Not pipes, tubing.
1/2" OD copper tubing.
Those would be $$$$
Small copper tubing. The more copper coils the more it conducts
There are at my local hardware store although it's around 20 bucks for that size each lol.
Why not throw ice cubes all over your room and turn on the fan?
jason, thanks for making me laugh
@@g.sabatier5352 actually that would work better since the room is uniformly cooled
Freeze your room
Because if you do, you will wake upnwith every singel electronic in your room wet
Why just buy a ac
Working at a hardware store has its perks right about now. We literally sell everything (except the ice, but we do sell ice makers lmao) needed
this is a great video with unique ideas for improving an already useful DIY
Thank you so much for this video. Saves me alot of trial and error. Weekend project 💪🏾
That moment you switched to °c 😱😮😱
(I don't understand °f)
Melvin Holwerda yeah same 😂
Same
Same
Yeah, when he said "Let's switch it to Celcius, for anyone who wants that", I was like "YEAH HOW 'BOUT THE REST OF THE GOSH DARN WORLD!?"
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A suggestion is to use metal bottles instead of glass or plastic bottles.
You can just wet a towel and put it inside. The process of water evaporating removes heat from the surroundings, it's how a so-called swamp cooler works. No ice needed!
Not in high humidity.
Follow all the instructions and it will keep you cool. Great product. I recommend it.
Can you make experiments with Molotow Cocktails?
Mario cool idea
Would be cool af
epic find, perfect for the summer time!
Totally made one and using it right now! I'm finally comfortable in this 80 degree house. Gonna slept this thing LOL
Does it cool your entire home?
How long does it last? 1hr a few hours? I've been thinking of making one but I'm not sure if its worth the effort if it doesn't cool for very long.
Truly super cooler you made. I do it.
Just so ya know. If u do enclose a medium size room, and keep it semi dark.... It definitely does help alot. Its not a true ac of course, but hey if youre in need in a camper, or if your electrics out, or just wanna do it.... Try one out. Two of them is perf in my opinion❤✅💥
If your electric is out, the fan wont work. 🤦♂️
Batteries exist lol @tonygov
One trade-off of frozen bottles vs loose ice is the duration of cool air you can make. Loose ice makes colder air because it's exchanging heat with the incoming air more quickly. This means ice will melt more quickly.
I did this in a tent when I went camping and it works amazing except for the fact that it humidifies air so much you're nice and cool and clammy lol
Thank you so much! This design and all the suggestions below are going to make life SO much happier.
Increase the efficiency of the fan by sinking the fan into lid so less air escapes, this will decrease the temperature (I belive)
So 2 questions, you mention it "lasts for a while" but how long is a while, i mean the hot air intake will melt the ice but how long are we talking? secondly, how about possibly making a mini version that might be more desk friendly, not sure what you could use as a container, thinking maybe an insulated small bucket, the kind you would get for the beach with maybe some sort of small computer fan, could even rig up a battery bank for it seeing as the fan would use a lot less power etc
Cypherous then make it yourself
You could use a paint can but have the exhaust port cut in the bottom and the fan in the opening for the lid. I would recommend water bottles for that though so that water doesn't leak onto your desk.
The hotter the air going in the faster the ice melts.
Why dont you inovate the idea to make a mini version
The result will be much better if we use ice and chilled water for the lowest layer of ice...I bet
I love that my 12-year-old can watch your show and recreate :-) look what he did... Well I can't figure out how to send a picture but he did it!
Congo
email them
@@Gwynbleiddsanity who would he email?
You can post it on imgur and send a link:) How's it been working for you?
Nice! You are awesome. Thanks so much.
You can use salted water to lower the freezing temps and also keep you cooler longer as well!
Can you guys try expanding the idea of the hover craft and actually make one with cheap options?
You should modify a portable ice machine with a fan so that you dont have to keep adding ice. just water occasionally.
CandymanSEHTx713 great idea but wouldn’t that be almost the same price as a portable AC unit?
@windows_x_seven that would be fukcin hilarious.
Just cut a round hole in the side of ur fridge and mount a fan that blows outward and get realy chill air..brrrrrr 😂
We're going to build this for our kids two-story tree fort. Thanks for the great video!
what would happen if you add salt to the ice
Salt to lower the freezing point of the ice...?
rom65536 yes
You would get 10 minutes of freezing air.
Remi King Perfect for 104° 70% humidity weather
I add a little salt to the similar portable ac that I use for camping. Makes a huge difference.
You literally just overcomplicated saying it lowers the freezing point lol
One thing to note this is actually an evaporative air cooler i.e. a swamp cooler. Because it works by adding cool moisture to hot dry air it will not be very successful if you live in a humid climate. An actual air conditioner works by removing moisture from humid the air thus lower the air temperature and humidity.
If you live in a dry heat area this cooler unit will work well enough. If you live in a humid place this unit will not be very useful since the air is already very saturated with hot moisture and adding a wee bit of cool moisture will not improve the temperature at all.
Kara Nguyen while similar it wouldn't add nearly as much moisture as an evaporative cooler, those work with average temp water soaked pads, this is using ice to cool off the air flowing through the styrofoam box.
U can say it’s a evaporator or a cooling tower
It doesn’t transfer heat constantly
Then, what is the solution for Humid Climates in this design?
No idea what the original poster of this thread had in mind for an AC unit, but real AC unit are heat pumps. They take a pressurized gas, compress it, and that compressed gas/(now liquid) heats up. That hot fluid passes through a cooler to remove the heat. That's why the outside of an AC units venting system is hot. That now cooled liquid enters and expansion chamber where it expands, and in that process of expansion, consumes heat. The opposite process of the compression cycle. Inside air is circulated through a radiator with that cold gas/liquid and chills the room. Humidity of the room makes no difference in how cold it gets, just how long it takes to get cold.
I will do this with solar panel that comes with a fan!! Excited
Can you make something similar to the DIY A/C, but instead make a DIY Heater for the upcoming winter?
Make a hover craft from leafblowers or other materials that you can get on and use. Thanks
Mrbeast
DBOSS TV That's actually nice
This was a cool project!
As you may be able to tell, pun intended!
Thanks for this! I live in my car a few days a week when I'm working, and it gets incredibly hot inside. The only way to cool it is to open the door with a fan by the door. But when I'm sleeping, I don't like leaving the door open. So I'm doing a version of this but using ice blocks, ice packs, and plastic ice cubes as I don't want any accidental spillages. I can also keep it running while I'm asleep too.
Send the cold air through a tube in the center and up and out the sides. That way it self cools the intake tube and forces all the cold air out. Also you can put more ice in the box without worrying about water getting into the exhaust tubes.
Try this with salt on the ice!!!
Yes! Placing salt over the ice, or ice in salt water will make the ice melt faster, thus cooling the air even further.
Yes, and get salt dust everywhere for feee.
"Salt dust"
Table salt is granulated. It doesn't suspend into the air to make dust.
R&T: melt, dissolve & evaporate.
Im pretty sure salt doesn't evaporate with the water
Going to have to try this while camping on a hot day
The only diy AC video that I was smart enough to follow.
All of these DIY ice foam cooler air conditioners are actually closer to swamp coolers than true A/Cs. In other words, they humidify the room while they cool it. This is fine for dry desert climates, where humidifying the dry air is preferred. But it is absolutely NOT fine for places with humid summers. Not only will it be more uncomfortable (cold and clammy feeling), but you are also providing optimal conditions for mold to grow on surfaces (wet and cool air).
Modern window A/Cs have the downside of being noisy, kinda expensive to purchase, expensive to operate, and expensive to fix if they break. But they are designed to cool your room while also drying the air, especially of they are sized correctly (meaning that they aren't too powerful so that they cool the whole room before they can fully dehumidify the air). The DIY swamp coolers are simply BS and useless for all but the driest summer conditions.
In fact, any A/C that claims it can cool your room through evaporating cold water is nothing but a swamp cooler. This includes this DIY ice foam cooler as well as those mini desk A/C's that you see advertised of FB and other social media. If the A/C does not have a drain to either send water outside or into a container that you need to periodically empty out, it is not drying your room. In fact, it's making your room wetter.