I wasn't aware of how cipher interacted here but I may visit that as additional value to my build! I did this commander as a storm build with Mind's Desire paying off. Another thing to consider for your build is Precognition field, which is like the reality Chip but it only casts instants and sorceries.
I love this commander! I have had the best luck with Plot & Adventure cards. Interesting point about the cipher, but I think it would just make Kellan an even bigger target.
6:10 I'm afraid you can't cast Gaea's Will for free off of Alaundo the Seer's activated ability. It reads: "Draw a card, then exile a card from your hand and put a number of time counters on it equal to its mana value. It gains “When the last time counter is removed from this card, if it’s exiled, you may cast it without paying its mana cost". Since Gaea's Will is mana value 0 it won't get any time counter to be removed and therefore it will become stuck in the exile zone.
@GerBessa Alaundo's ability allows you to cast the card "when the last time counter is removed." Gaea's Will has no mana cost, gets no time counters, and can therefore not be cast with Alaundo's ability. However, if it is suspended by it's own ability, Alaundo can "speed up" the effect.
I'm going to have an "old man yelling at clouds" moment. Whenever someone says they're playing a "value" commander, what I hear is: "Catch up on your emails and housework, my turn is gonna take a while." Prosper decks soured me on the whole value thing. If I wanted to binge season 3 of The Boyz while they take their turn, I would've stayed home. It's why I avoid decks that rely on my opponent's deck. More work that I want to deal with when I'm trying to relax.
I think yeah, it is very hard to. Find balance with this deck. I took a more adventure heavy creature deck. With wincons like mind dilation, hulk breaker, behemont, Akroma's will and True Conviction to end the game after having some creatures. Never thought of a sorcery and instant approach. Im going to try it and see
I also built an adventure heavy approach, only played two games but found it lacking in interaction. I want to integrate some more of stealing opponents cards
@@johnbobbryan well, there is a artifact vehicle that steals from opponents and Daxtos as well. What i do is that most of my adventure spells are interaction. Counter or removal. So i can get a big creature into the the exile to cheap hulk breaker or mind dilation in and just counter a big problem. All lots of protection
Alaundo is rough one to run because if you exile something big with him and then he gets removed it's gone forever because those cards don't remove their own time counters like suspend cards do
I pulled Kellan at a prerelease and I have LOVED playing him except I can never keep enough cards in my hand to make him valuable enough. I can build a board but kind of durtle a bit. I think making it more creature based is important, almost a Kinnan type.
Tsk tsk tsk. Another Kellan the Kid deck missing one of the best Kellan cards. Kellan is a Faerie Rogue meaning you can cast Knowledge Exploitation on curve to cast the most powerful spells from an opponents deck and drop your beefiest permanent into play. Not bad for 4 mana
430$ is considered budget for a commander deck? Have several friends trying to get me into playing mtg, specifically commander, and if a budget deck that's half a grand is considered budget, I'm gonna have to pass lol.
I was stressed trying to balance this deck, greatly appreciate you making this video!
Same here! But what made it easier for me was having Gonti. So I don’t need to be Mr. StealyoCards. So I’m going plotting and shiz
I wasn't aware of how cipher interacted here but I may visit that as additional value to my build! I did this commander as a storm build with Mind's Desire paying off.
Another thing to consider for your build is Precognition field, which is like the reality Chip but it only casts instants and sorceries.
This commander looks awesome! THX
This is great! I couldn't decide if I wanted to do adventures, foretell, suspend, and on and on.
This is pretty interesting build for sure. Well done manno
I've been waiting and hoping for this lol so glad you made a video for him!
I love this commander! I have had the best luck with Plot & Adventure cards. Interesting point about the cipher, but I think it would just make Kellan an even bigger target.
I hadn't thought of using ciphers with Kellan! Might have to try and put some in my list.
6:10 I'm afraid you can't cast Gaea's Will for free off of Alaundo the Seer's activated ability. It reads: "Draw a card, then exile a card from your hand and put a number of time counters on it equal to its mana value. It gains “When the last time counter is removed from this card, if it’s exiled, you may cast it without paying its mana cost". Since Gaea's Will is mana value 0 it won't get any time counter to be removed and therefore it will become stuck in the exile zone.
Read Alaundo again.
@GerBessa Alaundo's ability allows you to cast the card "when the last time counter is removed." Gaea's Will has no mana cost, gets no time counters, and can therefore not be cast with Alaundo's ability.
However, if it is suspended by it's own ability, Alaundo can "speed up" the effect.
Great video! I still will play adventure creature cards. But, I’ll adjust to this if my adventure creatures plus cascade won’t work.
I'm going to have an "old man yelling at clouds" moment. Whenever someone says they're playing a "value" commander, what I hear is: "Catch up on your emails and housework, my turn is gonna take a while." Prosper decks soured me on the whole value thing. If I wanted to binge season 3 of The Boyz while they take their turn, I would've stayed home. It's why I avoid decks that rely on my opponent's deck. More work that I want to deal with when I'm trying to relax.
Very cool introduction. It's hard to see where Kellen wants to be.
The click was Cast the inst/Sorc to cheat the Payoff
I think yeah, it is very hard to. Find balance with this deck. I took a more adventure heavy creature deck. With wincons like mind dilation, hulk breaker, behemont, Akroma's will and True Conviction to end the game after having some creatures. Never thought of a sorcery and instant approach. Im going to try it and see
You got yourself another subscriber. This is my favorite commander so far
I also built an adventure heavy approach, only played two games but found it lacking in interaction. I want to integrate some more of stealing opponents cards
@@johnbobbryan well, there is a artifact vehicle that steals from opponents and Daxtos as well. What i do is that most of my adventure spells are interaction. Counter or removal. So i can get a big creature into the the exile to cheap hulk breaker or mind dilation in and just counter a big problem. All lots of protection
Alaundo is rough one to run because if you exile something big with him and then he gets removed it's gone forever because those cards don't remove their own time counters like suspend cards do
I pulled Kellan at a prerelease and I have LOVED playing him except I can never keep enough cards in my hand to make him valuable enough. I can build a board but kind of durtle a bit. I think making it more creature based is important, almost a Kinnan type.
This commander was also difficult for me to build, I decided to go more of a landfall route
Tsk tsk tsk. Another Kellan the Kid deck missing one of the best Kellan cards. Kellan is a Faerie Rogue meaning you can cast Knowledge Exploitation on curve to cast the most powerful spells from an opponents deck and drop your beefiest permanent into play. Not bad for 4 mana
That's sick.
Dude. That is awesome!
No need for Vega the Watcher? Seems like a perfect match to keep your hand full.
Any chance you're gonna do a budget version of this anytime soon?
After I knock out some bloom burrow decks 😁
I haven’t forgotten just bad timing
I use those powerful cheat spells as well as all the good landfall creatures
Hmm, looks awesome but not seeing the moxfield link!
Oops it’s there now thank you 😁
did you do the budget version of this?
Not yet it’s in the works :)
Couldn't you do some type of cascade build? Cast stuff for free from your deck and your hand?
You sure could, it works and is probably pretty good
Can you do Akul O.O
So correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t this work really well in the maelstrom wanderer deck you made not too long ago?
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where the moxfield link?
Oops it’s there now thank you 😁
No MOX link in the description
Oops it’s there now thank you 😁
@@decktechsfordecks thank you 😊
the 6cmc kodama?
Kodama of the east puts them onto the battlefield instead of casting, not bad but not perfect
WHERES MY BUDGET VERSION
i wonder if Kellan is a good pair with pantlaze
Who in the world says Shorikai like that?
430$ is considered budget for a commander deck? Have several friends trying to get me into playing mtg, specifically commander, and if a budget deck that's half a grand is considered budget, I'm gonna have to pass lol.
You may have misunderstood this isn’t budget but I’m going to build a budget version 😁
@@decktechsfordecks That's on me , I definitely misunderstood lol. So there's hope for me yet when it comes to playing 🤣
@@EnVisionZs oh 100% there’s some pretty budget decks I’ve built for the channel that can hold their own vs none budget deck. 😁
3k views and less than 500 likes is criminal
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Love your stuff man keep it up, could you do one on takeen I know it’s simple
I didn’t even realize there was one already