@@Llanowar_Kitten no they certainly don't share cardinality. They are just both countable. one is still aa0 and the next bigger aa1, at least in this context. You gotta keep in mind that most set theory notation is context sensitive. And since we are only comparing countable infinities, you still use aleph notation to compare the two sets and possibly do arithmetic on them or whatever. Transfinite set theory gives me a headache though.
@@SeleenShadowpaw Yup, pretty solid Mathematical proof ,, infinity " is gibberish and only used for theoreticals and complex math equations that exist only to impress your physics teachers.
This was definitely entertaining to watch. Putting the bell sound on the Midnight Clocks really helped too. It's kind of a shame that the Approach of the Second Sun didn't end up showing up during your "infiniter" combo, but oh, well.
I don’t feel particularly guilty for killing some one with Gin Gitaxes playing this deck by playing a raider’s wake, then attacking them enough to put them at 2, making them die on the discard trigger on their key to the archive
Phil isn't only upgrading the editing, he also makes the best content on goldfish! I feel like he eventually might have surpassed the goldfishchannel's views, had he stayed by himself. Nonetheless, I love his videos :)
@@person3176 Presentation and voice acting are irritating to me, something I don't have with Brewer's Kitchen, liked him from his first videos before he went with Goldfish.
Even when you go infinite you need to decide where you stop. Infinite damage beats infinite life. I think attacking to win is fine. Even if they have 16 million life we would eventually win
Yep, especially since the deck is truly infinite with two Primal Commands to shuffle everything together. It would be another story if they weren't in the deck, though. The Midnight clocks exile themself
@@BrewersKitchen exactly what I think, if you can have infinite turns without ever decking yourself, you are able to do infinite damage. If that wasn´t the case I would ask the opponent if he wants the win and scoop if theyy say yes
While technically true, in tournament the match would almost certainly go to time and be declared a tie. The infinite loop from Phil’s list is non-determinate so it cannot be declared as infinite but he is advancing the board state so he could keep going without a dq. Without an approach, it all comes down to if the opponent is willing to give up the game in the face of a theoretical win or just hold out for the tie.
Yeah it's a weird situation anyhow, since currently the opponent if we go by they have infinite squirrels, and have 3 times infinity health, and 2 times infinity plus 1 damage . Where as the other deck, which just stole the two soul wardens would have 2 times infinity health. But that's just numbers that don't really exist, so it's weird and finite numbers would make a lot more sense.
@@lt422vorinclex says that if opponents would put counters on a permanent they control, they get half that many counters rounded down. this means that enemy-controlled sagas like binding the old gods don’t get lore counters and never trigger their abilities. ashaya makes all nontoken creatures on its side of the board forests in addition to creatures, including itself, so none of them can be targeted by “target nonland permanent” effects like banishing light.
I took a break from magic for a year, used to watch brewer on his own channel - it’s a pleasant surprise to see him on a big channel like goldfish! Congrats to him!!
@@BrewersKitchen Even my wife as a MTG newbie was in awe when you went berserk in Game 2. I had to explain a few steps and moves, but it all made sense to her, and I thank you and her for that.
What I think about infinite life in arena is you treat it as they have as much life as they have patience but I do think arena should have a feature that can loop combos infinitely if it is indeed infinite. If they just choose a number of times they want it to happen, I think that would be cool and that is how the rules for infinite combos in paper magic works too.
I feel like this deck goes into the category that I have in my brain of "decks that are fascinating to make but awful to play against so I'll never do it" lol
I know they are few and far between, but they are so worth it!! I love the editing quality, the smooth narration and great pacing. Take all the time you need!
Sick content as always! Love all of the editing, extra details (clock tower bell chimes), and whacky decks. Also think the game-play version of a deck-tech is a sweet idea! Worth the wait, keep the good stuff coming!
I have actually made this deck work in Bo3. 7 card wishboard with slight changes (Ugin mainly and a Tamiyo for more ways to get cards back from the yard to loop). Then I put some disputes and Shifting Ceratops in the non-wishboard slots since control is a real bad matchup unless you just happen to resolve Jin. Problem is Teferi, Hero of Dominaria isn't affected by Jin. Then in the main I made a few changes to the mana base and took out a Clock and a Primal Command to have 2 Nissa's for more fast mana and alternate win-con. It's been a ton of fun to play. A few opponents figured out how to waste bad spells to clear the way for their good ones, but for the most part when Jin resolves it's gg. Glad to have another video from you Phil! I'll take videos like this if it's 2-3 months in between. The quality is just...mmm...chef's kiss perfection.
@@BrewersKitchen Yeah also +1 to dig if needed for a piece. Works well. This deck is a ton of fun. I was hating historic until this. It was all control, thoughtseize kroxa decks or cat/oven decks. This might be the Combo-Control deck Historic needed. Some version of it anyways. The play patterns are just very satisfying. It's a lot like your Junk Winder deck. Figuring out the sequencing and getting the pieces assembled is just very enjoyable.
@@savagesnadgaming7252 Thank you! Yeah the Junk Winder deck is still one of the most fun decks I've built in a while, it just feels so right when it all comes together xD
I live in Canada and I actually bought stuff from Card Kingdom JUST so I could use your code JUST so the editor could get some more money because god DAMN the editor does some great shit.
my favorite Jin Gitaxias moment was playing against it and them immediately scooping when I play a revitalize before my borrowed time to bait out the trigger and remove their Jin
Please keep giving Brewer's Kitchen money! I will be honest, I watched his channel before I watched this one. His editing and skill is right up there with LVD. I actually subscribed because of this video. Keep it up, MtG Goldfish.
Phil I’ve been watching goldfish for years and I’ve got to say your videos are by far the best content I’ve seen (and that’s saying something!) amazing editing hilarious jokes, bravo bravo bravo!
They should put in the work to have a popup where the AI recognizes you have an infinite combo in progress. You get to set a slider or type in a number 1-1mil and it gives you 1 token with that number on it, or that much mana, or that much life etc. Make it one clean animation instead of all these triggers. (obvi if opponent has interaction they should also get a fast menu)
Well this was definitely worth the wait! Very fun stuff I do think there should be a way for Arena to realize you have infinite, just to help speed up the process a little
Man. Ben_as2pik is a trooper for not scooping during that combo. I love that he allowed you to record this. I salute that person until he did scoop. Thanks for that.
Gotta love that heavy edited video. Worth the wait. I will say, tho, when I saw the documentary joke I could only feel for Phill... I know how long that must've taken
It's awe-inspiring to think about how much work you put into a 20 minute long video. I have to say, though, the new Jin Gitaxias is a good example of a Bad Mythic. It's miserable to play against, and you can't really have fun playing with it because people are going to scoop when they're on the receiving end (because it's miserable to play against). And it doesn't even set up a potentially-cool Protect The Queen subgame, because it's a 5/5 that blanks the first removal spell that gets flung at it each turn. That said... it was a sweet deck. May I suggest including some copies of Quandrix Apprentice in the mix? They give you some early-game blockers and some pretty sweet synergy with the Explore + Growth Spiral part of your ramp package.
If I were the opponent on the other side of the table there's no way I'd scoop to this, not because I'm salty, but because I absolutely love watching insane off the wall combos like this play out and I find it incredibly enjoyable to watch, even if it's my opponent doing it. If it were something like Splinter Twin or some other very common combo we've seen a million times obviously that's one thing, scoop and go on to the next game/match, but when it's something this out of left field I don't understand how you couldn't be enthralled and want to see the whole thing play out. Being able to do WILD stuff like this is what makes magic so great!
That's very similar to the Halting Problem in computer science. The main difference here is that we're not trying to predict for all possible inputs but for a set of inputs limited by the state of the game and all possible actions in the game, limited by the cards in the decks. Still, this is very nontrivial. Maybe there could be a way to bundle actions into a set and let the user input the number of times the set of actions be repeated... Still, I think it's much more complicated than it sounds unless for very trivial two-card combos
@@daktastik It might not be trivial, but it should hardly be impossible either. As a general rule, if a set of game rules can run on human brains, it should be able to run on computers. If humans can recognize an infinite loop, a computer should too. There also variations in the space of "infinite combos". Some are easier to implement than others. The Jin-Gitaxias combo shown here for example, might be a lot more difficult to implement for computers because of the variations of going infinite: it's not a simple cycle because you have some random variation on drawing the necessary Time Walk-like cards. That's not to say humans can comprehend this any better. If my opponent at a tournament explained the Jin combo, I'd still probably ask them to play through it because it isn't obvious that their infinite loop is guaranteed. So a computer not declaring infinite loop victory here is not any worse than a human. However, it should be relatively easy to recognize the life-gain squirrel infinite combo. You can just have a trigger to look for a cycle of similar inputs followed by a proportional change in board state that doesn't use up any finite resources. When this is detected, give the player a pop-up menu to ask how many iterations of the cycle they'd like to play. Now we come to the actual game-rules limitation here. If I remember correctly, in actual Magic rules, you can't have actually infinite life. Instead, you can declare any arbitrarily large (finite) number. Which is not gonna be possible with computers. You'll probably need to make sure "infinite" combos still work as expected when you simply declare enough cycles to give players the max number of whatever they want. Considering value overflows and all that stuff.
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"my infinite combo is better than yours"
Sun Tzu, the art of war
Love me some random sun tzu quotes
Props to the one guy for sticking around as long as he did.
I did not know how much I needed the bell sound effect on Midnight Clock until today.
When someone says they don’t understand that some infinites are bigger than others, show them this video
Granted, these infinities are the same size (Aleph_0).
It's not about bigger, it is about faster.
Once they wrap their mind around that one, you can introduce them to the idea of multiple sets of infinity.
@@Llanowar_Kitten no they certainly don't share cardinality. They are just both countable. one is still aa0 and the next bigger aa1, at least in this context.
You gotta keep in mind that most set theory notation is context sensitive. And since we are only comparing countable infinities, you still use aleph notation to compare the two sets and possibly do arithmetic on them or whatever.
Transfinite set theory gives me a headache though.
@@SeleenShadowpaw
Yup, pretty solid Mathematical proof ,, infinity " is gibberish and only used for theoreticals and complex math equations that exist only to impress your physics teachers.
Anakin: “the video is 20 minutes, but he plays 3 games”
Padme: “so each game is about 7 minutes, right?”
Anakin: * smirks menacingly
Padme: “right?”
Very strange comment.
@@Infamous_V.I.P Strange that this got two likes
Does Anakin smirk menacingly in that meme? I don't recall him 'smirking menacingly'.
@@Infamous_V.I.Pmhmmmmmmmmmmm
This was definitely entertaining to watch. Putting the bell sound on the Midnight Clocks really helped too. It's kind of a shame that the Approach of the Second Sun didn't end up showing up during your "infiniter" combo, but oh, well.
The editing on this video is amazing. A+ for memes alone.
"Another one!"
Now THIS felt this an actual wizard duel.
I HAVE INFINITE POWER! I AM IMMORTAL!
YOU FOOL! I HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD TO DEFEAT YOU!
They see him playing, they hating. They see him doing videos, they loving.
I don’t feel particularly guilty for killing some one with Gin Gitaxes playing this deck by playing a raider’s wake, then attacking them enough to put them at 2, making them die on the discard trigger on their key to the archive
I started reading this like "Ridin Dirty" but realized that's not where it was going.
@@FlawlessRhythmGG just did the same
@@jamescampbell2353 e3eeeee33e33eēē3eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee³³33
@@FlawlessRhythmGG LOL same. That song was so overplayed that it's burned into the back of my brain now lol
Finally I know ur busy upgrading the editing on goldfish but we need these vids
Phil isn't only upgrading the editing, he also makes the best content on goldfish! I feel like he eventually might have surpassed the goldfishchannel's views, had he stayed by himself. Nonetheless, I love his videos :)
@@keep7smiling I honestly don't watch any other content on this channel but Brewer's Kitchen.
@@keep7smiling Stability is more important!
@@Orvieta you're missing out, against the odds is so fun.
@@person3176 Presentation and voice acting are irritating to me, something I don't have with Brewer's Kitchen, liked him from his first videos before he went with Goldfish.
7:30 bell sound fix SATISFYING AF 😌 🎶 👌🏿
Even when you go infinite you need to decide where you stop.
Infinite damage beats infinite life. I think attacking to win is fine. Even if they have 16 million life we would eventually win
Yep, especially since the deck is truly infinite with two Primal Commands to shuffle everything together. It would be another story if they weren't in the deck, though. The Midnight clocks exile themself
@@BrewersKitchen exactly what I think, if you can have infinite turns without ever decking yourself, you are able to do infinite damage. If that wasn´t the case I would ask the opponent if he wants the win and scoop if theyy say yes
While technically true, in tournament the match would almost certainly go to time and be declared a tie. The infinite loop from Phil’s list is non-determinate so it cannot be declared as infinite but he is advancing the board state so he could keep going without a dq. Without an approach, it all comes down to if the opponent is willing to give up the game in the face of a theoretical win or just hold out for the tie.
@@CenJohan not rlly since things like the second sun let the deck win just by cycling out cards with infinite turns
Yeah it's a weird situation anyhow, since currently the opponent if we go by they have infinite squirrels, and have 3 times infinity health, and 2 times infinity plus 1 damage . Where as the other deck, which just stole the two soul wardens would have 2 times infinity health. But that's just numbers that don't really exist, so it's weird and finite numbers would make a lot more sense.
The design of the preators are my favorite, they really do feel brutal. Being on the receiving end of one of those bad Bois is inevitable death.
Praetor is the new Phyrexian :)
Jin-Gitaxias reminds me of the number of times people would play Binding of the Old Gods to try and kill my Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider. Good times.
Don't forget people trying to use Binding on Ashaya, Soul of the Wild.
@@AaronRotenberg ashaya has gotten me multiple times when i've tried to play banishing light effects on it
Why doesn't it work?
@@lt422vorinclex says that if opponents would put counters on a permanent they control, they get half that many counters rounded down. this means that enemy-controlled sagas like binding the old gods don’t get lore counters and never trigger their abilities.
ashaya makes all nontoken creatures on its side of the board forests in addition to creatures, including itself, so none of them can be targeted by “target nonland permanent” effects like banishing light.
once I played Elspeth Conquers Death in my Yorion deck hoping to exile an enemy Vorinclex. Damn, I got beat up so hard i can still feel the damage
'I activate my infinite combo aleph null times'
'In response, I activate MY infinite combo aleph one times!'
Ben is a good sport to let you do as much as you did. I hope he got a good laugh at it.
I love watching people pop off. I enjoy getting attacked by 10 million 100/100 tokens almost as much as I like attacking with them.
That midnight clock sound is soooo satisfying!! Great job dude
I took a break from magic for a year, used to watch brewer on his own channel - it’s a pleasant surprise to see him on a big channel like goldfish! Congrats to him!!
Thank you! And welcome back to Magic :)
Gotta be some of the crispest editing I've ever seen for Magic content!
Thank you! Game one was probably the hardest game to edit in any of my videos. There was just so much going on xD
@@BrewersKitchen Even my wife as a MTG newbie was in awe when you went berserk in Game 2. I had to explain a few steps and moves, but it all made sense to her, and I thank you and her for that.
@@Orvieta Oh wow this is great to hear! I always worry that I'm going a bit too fast with my editing xD
What I think about infinite life in arena is you treat it as they have as much life as they have patience but I do think arena should have a feature that can loop combos infinitely if it is indeed infinite. If they just choose a number of times they want it to happen, I think that would be cool and that is how the rules for infinite combos in paper magic works too.
I feel like this deck goes into the category that I have in my brain of "decks that are fascinating to make but awful to play against so I'll never do it" lol
If you don't want to spend infinite turns getting pecked by birds, don't gain infinite life
I know they are few and far between, but they are so worth it!! I love the editing quality, the smooth narration and great pacing. Take all the time you need!
Sick content as always! Love all of the editing, extra details (clock tower bell chimes), and whacky decks. Also think the game-play version of a deck-tech is a sweet idea! Worth the wait, keep the good stuff coming!
The bell sound intensifying in pitch for each counter together with the drum and bass beat - A+++ You've got the crispest editing on MtG tube!
Hahahaha that “Who wants to be a Millionaire” music was a good touch
Great video!
When you stopped to explain the finisher, I had instant flashbacks to Guenther Jauch. Great choice of music!
The pace, style, and editing on this video is incredible. Great work!
Great video great content. Fun (even if crazy/long) deck...This was entertaining. Thank you for taking the time to produce it!
I have actually made this deck work in Bo3. 7 card wishboard with slight changes (Ugin mainly and a Tamiyo for more ways to get cards back from the yard to loop). Then I put some disputes and Shifting Ceratops in the non-wishboard slots since control is a real bad matchup unless you just happen to resolve Jin. Problem is Teferi, Hero of Dominaria isn't affected by Jin. Then in the main I made a few changes to the mana base and took out a Clock and a Primal Command to have 2 Nissa's for more fast mana and alternate win-con. It's been a ton of fun to play. A few opponents figured out how to waste bad spells to clear the way for their good ones, but for the most part when Jin resolves it's gg.
Glad to have another video from you Phil! I'll take videos like this if it's 2-3 months in between. The quality is just...mmm...chef's kiss perfection.
Sounds interesting! Tamiyo seems great in the sb, good call!
Thank you :)
@@BrewersKitchen Yeah also +1 to dig if needed for a piece. Works well. This deck is a ton of fun. I was hating historic until this. It was all control, thoughtseize kroxa decks or cat/oven decks. This might be the Combo-Control deck Historic needed. Some version of it anyways.
The play patterns are just very satisfying. It's a lot like your Junk Winder deck. Figuring out the sequencing and getting the pieces assembled is just very enjoyable.
@@savagesnadgaming7252 Thank you! Yeah the Junk Winder deck is still one of the most fun decks I've built in a while, it just feels so right when it all comes together xD
Been missing the Brewer’s Kitchen content. Good to see ya in a few months. Looking forward to more :).
Excellent deck my guy! Love busted jank decks! Great narration and production as well!
Absolutely terrific content. I’ve been watching Goldfish for years now, and these are still some of the best videos that’ve come from them.
I'm not sure if you yourself edit these videos but I love the way your videos are edited. they're so fluid and funny I live it.
"Is he wearing pants?"
The editing shown here is insane! Almost as insane as the rest of your videos are fun to watch!
You are the reason I subscribed to this channel, to be honest. Good to see more gameplay from you!
I love your style, the editing and the commentary. Thanks for brightening my day and welcome back!
You're videos are sooo well edited. it's still enjoyable rewatch even after several months
I live in Canada and I actually bought stuff from Card Kingdom JUST so I could use your code JUST so the editor could get some more money because god DAMN the editor does some great shit.
I love this guy! Please keep him around! I don't usually enjoy gameplay videos very much. Something about this guys charm just gets me good
The ad read with the Arena timer. 👌Perfect.
my favorite Jin Gitaxias moment was playing against it and them immediately scooping when I play a revitalize before my borrowed time to bait out the trigger and remove their Jin
woah the animation has improved so much
"Let me just freeze you in time for a second..."
Shoutout to the bloke for staying in the game as long as he did hahahaha legend
The editing in these videos is always great, but the arena fuse on the ad read is an especially nice touch.
Ohhh, Phil, total schön, eine eigene Folge mit Dir sehen zu dürfen!! :) :) :)
Danke sehr! :)
This has to be the greatest video ever thank you for that love seeing someone with a life loop get countered right after worth watching every second
Always love your videos!
P.s. ima need that synthwave track title 👀
Thank You ☺ Overdrive - Corbyn Kites
@@BrewersKitchen the man, the LEGEND 🤙🔥🤌
Dude, your content is stunning. Love your editing. My top 3 fav Magic content creator, hands down
I love the editing, keep up the great work.
This is extremely entertaining!
Finally another Phil video, amazing as always 😍
Please keep giving Brewer's Kitchen money! I will be honest, I watched his channel before I watched this one. His editing and skill is right up there with LVD. I actually subscribed because of this video. Keep it up, MtG Goldfish.
I love the production value of your videos. Looks so smooth and the memes are on point
Kamigoochi Neon Poochie feels like the best regular set of 2022
Great video once again. Always a must watch right now when your videos shoe up in my feed!
I really love the pace of these videos, super dense high quality stuff
I always do a little head bop to that Goldfish/Kitchen hybrid intro. Straight swaggin'
Phil I’ve been watching goldfish for years and I’ve got to say your videos are by far the best content I’ve seen (and that’s saying something!) amazing editing hilarious jokes, bravo bravo bravo!
Thank you!
Always killing it with the amount of time and effort poured into each video. Loved it!
MY FAVORITE DAY HAS ARRIVED! A NEW BREWERS KITCHEN VIDEO!!!
They should put in the work to have a popup where the AI recognizes you have an infinite combo in progress. You get to set a slider or type in a number 1-1mil and it gives you 1 token with that number on it, or that much mana, or that much life etc. Make it one clean animation instead of all these triggers. (obvi if opponent has interaction they should also get a fast menu)
Easily my new favorite creator, more videos!
Well this was definitely worth the wait! Very fun stuff
I do think there should be a way for Arena to realize you have infinite, just to help speed up the process a little
This was masterfully edited, excellent work 👍
Man. Ben_as2pik is a trooper for not scooping during that combo. I love that he allowed you to record this. I salute that person until he did scoop. Thanks for that.
That bell chime everytime midnight clock gets a counter LUL
You're videos are just pure madness :D. I'm still sitting and laughing about the changing life deck (which i built directly) xD. Go on =D
"And we get slightly less infinite life"
.... Hey, Michael, Vsauce here.
Almost made that edit in this scene 😅
Amazing production quality mate!
These must take forever to edit, you put so much insane detail into everything!
I love how he seems to gain turns not loose them XD
Gotta love that heavy edited video. Worth the wait.
I will say, tho, when I saw the documentary joke I could only feel for Phill... I know how long that must've taken
I think more than anything this demonstrates how broken alchemy is
RUclips fed me this recommendation, and it's never wrong to recommend me a Brewer's Kitchen rewatch. Cheers!
“Nice infinite combo, lemme show you mine”
Playing against this deck is not dumb! Its glorious and everyone should feel honoured to witness its MAGIC!
Nice deck. Love to see more of your stuff moving forward.
Commander Clash is the reason I started watching MTGGoldfish content, but Phil is the reason I stayed :D Keep up the great work!
Best thing on this channel. You're the King!
After this game you have the obligation to play Progress Tyrant in a future Commander Clash episode
Episode dropping tomorrow ;)
Yes Phil!! This video was amazing, thank you for your work
Great deck. Great editing 👌
My gosh... I would pay gems for those bell sounds to be real.
MTGA has some incredible content creators.
Really loved this video! Hope to see more stuff like it and more stuff from Phil in general soon
I love Phil's humor!! So hyped for this!! Moar plz
I had someone with a deck like this, I just left the game unattended so the guy can have some fun
It's awe-inspiring to think about how much work you put into a 20 minute long video.
I have to say, though, the new Jin Gitaxias is a good example of a Bad Mythic. It's miserable to play against, and you can't really have fun playing with it because people are going to scoop when they're on the receiving end (because it's miserable to play against). And it doesn't even set up a potentially-cool Protect The Queen subgame, because it's a 5/5 that blanks the first removal spell that gets flung at it each turn.
That said... it was a sweet deck. May I suggest including some copies of Quandrix Apprentice in the mix? They give you some early-game blockers and some pretty sweet synergy with the Explore + Growth Spiral part of your ramp package.
The bonus game totally got me. Funny video love you content.
If I were the opponent on the other side of the table there's no way I'd scoop to this, not because I'm salty, but because I absolutely love watching insane off the wall combos like this play out and I find it incredibly enjoyable to watch, even if it's my opponent doing it. If it were something like Splinter Twin or some other very common combo we've seen a million times obviously that's one thing, scoop and go on to the next game/match, but when it's something this out of left field I don't understand how you couldn't be enthralled and want to see the whole thing play out. Being able to do WILD stuff like this is what makes magic so great!
I love how cheeky his commentary sounds. This deck seems fantastic.
Your video title alone made me click it immediately. 😁
When you have a winning move but you have to wait for your opponent playing a loop 1000 times...
Your videos are always so well edited this was great fun
Finally! I'm glad to see your videos 10/10
They should implement it to have infinite combos, or some kind of way to detect it
That's very similar to the Halting Problem in computer science. The main difference here is that we're not trying to predict for all possible inputs but for a set of inputs limited by the state of the game and all possible actions in the game, limited by the cards in the decks. Still, this is very nontrivial.
Maybe there could be a way to bundle actions into a set and let the user input the number of times the set of actions be repeated... Still, I think it's much more complicated than it sounds unless for very trivial two-card combos
@Zach, Bro How so? Do players not have to manually work through each step of the combo an arbitrary number of times, limited by timing out?
@@daktastik they do
@@daktastik It might not be trivial, but it should hardly be impossible either. As a general rule, if a set of game rules can run on human brains, it should be able to run on computers. If humans can recognize an infinite loop, a computer should too.
There also variations in the space of "infinite combos". Some are easier to implement than others. The Jin-Gitaxias combo shown here for example, might be a lot more difficult to implement for computers because of the variations of going infinite: it's not a simple cycle because you have some random variation on drawing the necessary Time Walk-like cards. That's not to say humans can comprehend this any better. If my opponent at a tournament explained the Jin combo, I'd still probably ask them to play through it because it isn't obvious that their infinite loop is guaranteed. So a computer not declaring infinite loop victory here is not any worse than a human.
However, it should be relatively easy to recognize the life-gain squirrel infinite combo. You can just have a trigger to look for a cycle of similar inputs followed by a proportional change in board state that doesn't use up any finite resources. When this is detected, give the player a pop-up menu to ask how many iterations of the cycle they'd like to play.
Now we come to the actual game-rules limitation here. If I remember correctly, in actual Magic rules, you can't have actually infinite life. Instead, you can declare any arbitrarily large (finite) number. Which is not gonna be possible with computers. You'll probably need to make sure "infinite" combos still work as expected when you simply declare enough cycles to give players the max number of whatever they want. Considering value overflows and all that stuff.
This man is one Hilarious, Two explains the decks so well, Three Has a soothing AF voice.