I've suffered from Thoracic Outlet Syndrome for 3 years. This video is by far the most comprehensive and helpful. If I do these rehab techniques 5 times a week I'm cool, if I skip days I have issues. Thanks for the content.
All are great excercises if you haven’t let TOS get out of hand. Although, I don’t agree with stretching the scalenes. Strengthening the scalene muscles seem to be more effective.
So glad you liked it! Lots of great exercises to work on this! Definitely check out our program for the neck and midback to help to improve strength and mobility in this area, important for addressing first rib issues! Great thing about this program is that it's online and designed by Doctors of Physical Therapy for YOU! theprehabguys.com/neck-mid-back-program/
Hard to say without a thorough evaluation but it could be just a bit too much right now for the severity of your symptoms! Would definitely recommend checking out our Neck and Midback Rehab program through the app if you haven't already! bit.ly/tryprehabYT
Great exercises, stretches and glides! Super excited to try them out. For the neck mobilization exercise with the towel, when you say the soft tissue mass, should it be on the peak of the trap?
Hey Melissa! Dependent on each person and case but trying these every day if well tolerated is a good idea! Listen to your body however and take recovery as needed.
Very dependent person to person and the severity of their symptoms but these are a great start! Learn more about TOS here! theprehabguys.com/7-exercises-for-thoracic-outlet-syndrome/
I’ve noticed several videos for TOS on this account. (Which I love!) Do any of you have TOS? If so, was that the drive to create these videos? Or did you work with clients with TOS?
Hello, thank you for this question. We have not had it, but we try to create as much content as we can to help individuals dealing with different nagging injuries, ailments, etc. Here is an article on this topic to learn more! theprehabguys.com/7-exercises-for-thoracic-outlet-syndrome/
@@ThePrehabGuys thank you. I actually have NTOS and have put it in remission through tutorials like this, yoga for TOS, and posture correction. Super awesome that you are putting content out for this condition though. Much appreciated!
It usually will have pain that is down one arm either as numbness/tingling sensation and/or blood supply related symptoms (pallor, discoloration, heaviness of arm), etc. Upper back tingling/numbness is not as common as arm but there is potential for there to also be discomfort in neck, shoulder, and/or shoulder blade.
Man I've been weightlifting since I was 18, 2 years ago I was getting numb fingers, neck pain headaches and my arms were tired when raised. Read about tos an thought nah I dont have that lol got an xray they told me I have bilateral cervical ribs got a mri and it wasn't showing any pinched nerves my doctor says I have a Mechanical problem in my neck I don't think she has a clue tbh. I'm still having symptoms but not as bad since I started doing exercises I seen online. Could it be pec minor syndrome?
@@patricklogue2127 if you have cervical ribs and you are starting to get symptoms, that is almost a guaranteed surgical intervention. Don't let it get worse and worse over the years. There are like four or five high-level specialists in the world that perform the surgeries, so if you get to that point, move heaven and earth to get in network with them. Dr Greg Pearl, Dallas Dr. Dean Donahue, Boston Dr. Thompson St Louis Dr Heidi Freischlag Dr Lum, Baltimore Vascular surgeon is the only one you want to be seeing for diagnosis
Yes ...I have had rib and sternum issues for yeats, and more recently (over the last 3 years or so) have been dealing with TOS. Exercises are tricky, as is most any physical activity that involves lifting more than 10 pounds.
Dude, started w minor posterior shoulder pain/mid-upper thoracic behind my right scapula. Huge knot that never went away. Supinated external rotation w bands are my best friend. Subbed...
@@anynamez7048 yes sir... little crowley's. I have undiagnosed cervical dystonia and thoracic outlet syndrom w ribs that dont wanna stay from a car accident...
@@anynamez7048 really? I feeel when do push ups or pull up my scapula starts winging. I used to do heavy weight but stopped out of fear. Plus i think i was doing over head press way too heavy. Bad form
Hi! I tend to often wake up with a tightness on the right side of my neck all of my scaling‘s and both above and below my right collarbone. I also noticed that my right collarbone sits a little higher than my left one. Could this have anything to do with my back or my scapula? I noticed that my right scapula pops and grind sometimes when doing exercises that involve the arm going forward and backward.
Hey Stephanie! Lots of good questions here! We have a video on first rib mobility I want you to check out, another one on scapular mobility and one of neck tightness that was released a few weeks ago! All of those will be great tools for you to be able to tackle that neck discomfort you are having! Also, definitely check out our neck and midback program if you are really looking to tackle this discomfort! theprehabguys.com/neck-mid-back-program/
I've been having oain in the right trapezius area between neck and shoulder closer to neck ever since I hit my head on a low cieling. Doctor haven't been able to help me. I feel poping in side of my neck all the way going up to behind my eyes what do you advice I do
The numbness and tingling I'm getting is in my thumb and my pointer. I have bra strap syndrome so I'm not sure if that is exactly the same as thoracic outlet or costoclavicular syndrome? I thought these were basically all the same thing? Would these exercises help me even though my numbness and tingling is in my thumb and pointer? instead of ring and pinky?
Great question, Kallie! Depends on severity of symptoms and the individual situation, it's a bit different for everyone! Check out this really awesome blog to learn more! theprehabguys.com/7-exercises-for-thoracic-outlet-syndrome/
These exercises made me so much worse and then today i found out i have venous thoracic outlet sydrome . When they manourverd my arm the venous US showed full occlusion. I was hoping would be neurogenic tos and fixed with physio but since my autonomic dysfunction is worsening and now seeing its VTOS i need surgery. Am scared shitless as have so many widespread issues and autonmic autonmic dysfunction may complicate surgery.
What if I am dealing with Tietze Syndrome as well as Thoracic Outlet Syndrome? The rib pain makes exercises very difficult. I end up in a lot of pain for days or even weeks. :(
Hey Kit! Sorry to hear you are dealing with that discomfort! Due to legal reasons, we aren't allowed to give out individualized medical recommendations online, but we recommend talking to your primary care physician and local physical therapist regarding what is the best course of action to get you pain free!
@@ThePrehabGuys I do have a very knowledgeable chiropractor and when I can see her on a weekly basis, my symptoms lessen to a good degree. But I really want to maintain more functionality and be active again. Just to be able to take care of my house without having to be careful of lifting too much the wrong way (over 10lbs) would be amazing. I did some garden work (pulling weeds) and messed myself up for days.
Hi guys, I have been searching for my condition and I am sure I have this. I have been a sewing machinist for years and my arm was repeatedly go over to reach for items I was sewing. But my right hand side space in-between my collar bone and top rib is a lot smaller than my left and it seems my collar bone is thicker than the left. I have too much tightness, restrictions and deep aches, do you think these excercises would help and would I just need to excercise the right side only. Thank you
Perminder, thank you so much for reaching out! Often times, we can see a bit of a discrepancy in shoulder height based on one hand being more dominant than the other. With you sewing and using one side more than the other this can cause some asymmetries and some aches and pain! So sorry to hear you have been dealing with this! While we can't give you a specific diagnosis over this platform (we hope you understand) these exercises can certainly be of help and we are so glad you found us! We also have a great video on the first rib which can certainly help to alleviate some of that deep ache you feel. Check it out here! ruclips.net/video/BIL7qhCk4J0/видео.html
Not something to be overly concerned about! You may just need a different entry point and a good examination will help reveal what your baseline tolerance is to certain movements and how to build up - we recommend seeing a physical therapist! In the meantime, check out this blog to learn more about TOS: theprehabguys.com/7-exercises-for-thoracic-outlet-syndrome/
I've had TOS for 10 years. Several of these exercises are absolutely TERRIBLE suggestions. Don't press on the pec minor on the doorway, And don't do the towel thing. AND if you have pain and tingling, that's not normal and not encouraged with TOS. That means you're irritating the nerves.
You dont even give reasons why you just talk bullshit. The towel Ex is great bbecause it braces the scalen down as well as the sternocleidomastoid and allows you to stretch it. 2 neck muscles which get highly innervated and TIGHT due to TOS. It also allows you to immobilize and lower the 1st rib which has a myriad of problems wis TOS. If you have had TOS for 10 fkn years you must be shit at fixing it.
Yes when i do it symptoms worsen but from some testimony from people that's normal you have to stick with it and eventually the symptoms will lesson. But yes gentle stretches
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I've suffered from Thoracic Outlet Syndrome for 3 years. This video is by far the most comprehensive and helpful. If I do these rehab techniques 5 times a week I'm cool, if I skip days I have issues. Thanks for the content.
I am also physical therapist from india... 👌👌 Great work
thanks, great to hear!
How often should we do this and sets?
Ma'am inspite of TOS I also have extra bilateral cervical rib
Thank you!
In regards to the scap push-ups. What is the purpose exactly and what return are you looking for besides minimizing pain?
All are great excercises if you haven’t let TOS get out of hand. Although, I don’t agree with stretching the scalenes. Strengthening the scalene muscles seem to be more effective.
Strengthening also plays a big role! Need to strengthen that new length!
Hello! thanks for the video. How long and how often should I do these exercises to see improvement? thank you!
Hello! Here is an article that can provide you more insight!!
theprehabguys.com/7-exercises-for-thoracic-outlet-syndrome/
Best exercise against first rip problems.
What is your favorite exercise after visit a chiro...thx from Germany...perhabs facepulls???thx a lot
So glad you liked it! Lots of great exercises to work on this! Definitely check out our program for the neck and midback to help to improve strength and mobility in this area, important for addressing first rib issues! Great thing about this program is that it's online and designed by Doctors of Physical Therapy for YOU! theprehabguys.com/neck-mid-back-program/
Is it normal to get severe pinching burning pain at top of shoulder and down arn
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Hard to say without a thorough evaluation but it could be just a bit too much right now for the severity of your symptoms! Would definitely recommend checking out our Neck and Midback Rehab program through the app if you haven't already! bit.ly/tryprehabYT
Great exercises, stretches and glides! Super excited to try them out. For the neck mobilization exercise with the towel, when you say the soft tissue mass, should it be on the peak of the trap?
As long as it feels comfortable yes! Let us know how these exercises go for you!
Great exercises Very Well explained
How many times a week should you do? And any stretches in between daily?
Hey Melissa! Dependent on each person and case but trying these every day if well tolerated is a good idea! Listen to your body however and take recovery as needed.
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hello, will the disease be completely cured with just these exercises?
Very dependent person to person and the severity of their symptoms but these are a great start! Learn more about TOS here! theprehabguys.com/7-exercises-for-thoracic-outlet-syndrome/
I’ve noticed several videos for TOS on this account. (Which I love!) Do any of you have TOS? If so, was that the drive to create these videos? Or did you work with clients with TOS?
Hello, thank you for this question. We have not had it, but we try to create as much content as we can to help individuals dealing with different nagging injuries, ailments, etc. Here is an article on this topic to learn more!
theprehabguys.com/7-exercises-for-thoracic-outlet-syndrome/
@@ThePrehabGuys thank you. I actually have NTOS and have put it in remission through tutorials like this, yoga for TOS, and posture correction. Super awesome that you are putting content out for this condition though. Much appreciated!
@@lyphillips88 I believe I've got ntos. Still waiting to get diagnosed after 3 yrs.What were your main symptoms?
@@silverfullbuster9177 I have a video talking about my journey that answers your question. Search: MY JOURNEY with Thoracic Outlet Syndrome TOS
@@lyphillips88 what videos would you recommend? I just got diagnosed with TOS
Does thoracic outlet sydrome also have upper back tingling/numbness as one of its symptoms
It usually will have pain that is down one arm either as numbness/tingling sensation and/or blood supply related symptoms (pallor, discoloration, heaviness of arm), etc. Upper back tingling/numbness is not as common as arm but there is potential for there to also be discomfort in neck, shoulder, and/or shoulder blade.
@@ThePrehabGuys thanks. Ive had tingling between my shoulder blades for 2 years now ffs still looking for ways. Guess ill try these for a week or two
Man I've been weightlifting since I was 18, 2 years ago I was getting numb fingers, neck pain headaches and my arms were tired when raised. Read about tos an thought nah I dont have that lol got an xray they told me I have bilateral cervical ribs got a mri and it wasn't showing any pinched nerves my doctor says I have a Mechanical problem in my neck I don't think she has a clue tbh.
I'm still having symptoms but not as bad since I started doing exercises I seen online. Could it be pec minor syndrome?
@@patricklogue2127 no clue man :(
@@patricklogue2127 if you have cervical ribs and you are starting to get symptoms, that is almost a guaranteed surgical intervention. Don't let it get worse and worse over the years.
There are like four or five high-level specialists in the world that perform the surgeries, so if you get to that point, move heaven and earth to get in network with them.
Dr Greg Pearl, Dallas
Dr. Dean Donahue, Boston
Dr. Thompson St Louis
Dr Heidi Freischlag
Dr Lum, Baltimore
Vascular surgeon is the only one you want to be seeing for diagnosis
Search for costochondritis syndrome some might also have that problem as well
Thank you!
Yes ...I have had rib and sternum issues for yeats, and more recently (over the last 3 years or so) have been dealing with TOS. Exercises are tricky, as is most any physical activity that involves lifting more than 10 pounds.
Dude, started w minor posterior shoulder pain/mid-upper thoracic behind my right scapula. Huge knot that never went away. Supinated external rotation w bands are my best friend. Subbed...
bro did you have tingling there aswell?
@@anynamez7048 yes sir... little crowley's. I have undiagnosed cervical dystonia and thoracic outlet syndrom w ribs that dont wanna stay from a car accident...
Have you improved at all? I been dealing with this for like 2 years. Don't even lift now
@@vaughny7258 if your asking me, no, however im still experimenting, one thing for sure is to not stop lifting tho
@@anynamez7048 really? I feeel when do push ups or pull up my scapula starts winging. I used to do heavy weight but stopped out of fear. Plus i think i was doing over head press way too heavy. Bad form
what about venous TOS???
theprehabguys.com/7-exercises-for-thoracic-outlet-syndrome/
Hi! I tend to often wake up with a tightness on the right side of my neck all of my scaling‘s and both above and below my right collarbone. I also noticed that my right collarbone sits a little higher than my left one. Could this have anything to do with my back or my scapula? I noticed that my right scapula pops and grind sometimes when doing exercises that involve the arm going forward and backward.
Hey Stephanie! Lots of good questions here! We have a video on first rib mobility I want you to check out, another one on scapular mobility and one of neck tightness that was released a few weeks ago! All of those will be great tools for you to be able to tackle that neck discomfort you are having! Also, definitely check out our neck and midback program if you are really looking to tackle this discomfort! theprehabguys.com/neck-mid-back-program/
I've been having oain in the right trapezius area between neck and shoulder closer to neck ever since I hit my head on a low cieling. Doctor haven't been able to help me. I feel poping in side of my neck all the way going up to behind my eyes what do you advice I do
Look into this for me and chat with your doctor about if this is a good solution for you! theprehabguys.com/neck-mid-back-program/
The numbness and tingling I'm getting is in my thumb and my pointer. I have bra strap syndrome so I'm not sure if that is exactly the same as thoracic outlet or costoclavicular syndrome? I thought these were basically all the same thing? Would these exercises help me even though my numbness and tingling is in my thumb and pointer? instead of ring and pinky?
theprehabguys.com/how-to-relieve-nerve-pain-understanding-neurodynamics/
Can this issue actually be fixed or just managed?
Great question, Kallie! Depends on severity of symptoms and the individual situation, it's a bit different for everyone! Check out this really awesome blog to learn more! theprehabguys.com/7-exercises-for-thoracic-outlet-syndrome/
Thank you! Will read 😊
Are the exercises different if it is vascular TOS?
Here is an article we wrote that can provide more insight for you!
theprehabguys.com/7-exercises-for-thoracic-outlet-syndrome/
These exercises made me so much worse and then today i found out i have venous thoracic outlet sydrome . When they manourverd my arm the venous US showed full occlusion. I was hoping would be neurogenic tos and fixed with physio but since my autonomic dysfunction is worsening and now seeing its VTOS i need surgery. Am scared shitless as have so many widespread issues and autonmic autonmic dysfunction may complicate surgery.
Sounds like you are getting the help and answers you need which is important! We are rooting for you!
@@ThePrehabGuys thankyou
How often do we do these?
depends! typically start with 3x/week and adjust accordingly
@@ThePrehabGuys thanks
What if I am dealing with Tietze Syndrome as well as Thoracic Outlet Syndrome? The rib pain makes exercises very difficult. I end up in a lot of pain for days or even weeks. :(
Hey Kit! Sorry to hear you are dealing with that discomfort! Due to legal reasons, we aren't allowed to give out individualized medical recommendations online, but we recommend talking to your primary care physician and local physical therapist regarding what is the best course of action to get you pain free!
@@ThePrehabGuys I do have a very knowledgeable chiropractor and when I can see her on a weekly basis, my symptoms lessen to a good degree. But I really want to maintain more functionality and be active again. Just to be able to take care of my house without having to be careful of lifting too much the wrong way (over 10lbs) would be amazing. I did some garden work (pulling weeds) and messed myself up for days.
Hi guys, I have been searching for my condition and I am sure I have this. I have been a sewing machinist for years and my arm was repeatedly go over to reach for items I was sewing. But my right hand side space in-between my collar bone and top rib is a lot smaller than my left and it seems my collar bone is thicker than the left. I have too much tightness, restrictions and deep aches, do you think these excercises would help and would I just need to excercise the right side only.
Thank you
Perminder, thank you so much for reaching out! Often times, we can see a bit of a discrepancy in shoulder height based on one hand being more dominant than the other. With you sewing and using one side more than the other this can cause some asymmetries and some aches and pain! So sorry to hear you have been dealing with this! While we can't give you a specific diagnosis over this platform (we hope you understand) these exercises can certainly be of help and we are so glad you found us! We also have a great video on the first rib which can certainly help to alleviate some of that deep ache you feel. Check it out here! ruclips.net/video/BIL7qhCk4J0/видео.html
@@ThePrehabGuys Hi, thanks for your reply, the clip is brilliant and I will be trying the routine, it seems to be spot on. 😀
My hands go numb when I do this is this bad
Not something to be overly concerned about! You may just need a different entry point and a good examination will help reveal what your baseline tolerance is to certain movements and how to build up - we recommend seeing a physical therapist! In the meantime, check out this blog to learn more about TOS: theprehabguys.com/7-exercises-for-thoracic-outlet-syndrome/
In front of my shit chest XD
Your hurting me just watching you😭😆
Lol!
I've had TOS for 10 years. Several of these exercises are absolutely TERRIBLE suggestions. Don't press on the pec minor on the doorway, And don't do the towel thing. AND if you have pain and tingling, that's not normal and not encouraged with TOS. That means you're irritating the nerves.
Thanks for that! I've had tos for almost 2 years, is there anymore advice you could offer?
My dr wants me to do some pt before surgery.
You dont even give reasons why you just talk bullshit. The towel Ex is great bbecause it braces the scalen down as well as the sternocleidomastoid and allows you to stretch it. 2 neck muscles which get highly innervated and TIGHT due to TOS. It also allows you to immobilize and lower the 1st rib which has a myriad of problems wis TOS.
If you have had TOS for 10 fkn years you must be shit at fixing it.
If you've had it for 10 years why should we heed your wisdom?
Yes when i do it symptoms worsen but from some testimony from people that's normal you have to stick with it and eventually the symptoms will lesson. But yes gentle stretches