That's very similar to what I tell my clients, which is "nothing can be gained by your deposition." I signal to them that the less they say, the better. Answer the question asked and keep it short.
in the end, the brothers got paid and then invested the money and became billionaires, so by being smart the lawsuit turned out extremely well for them
I think he excluded that coz of what he said about the whole Saverin part of the deposition: It didn't make sense. In retrospect, I also think the company shares % part was revealed for the audience to empathize (or sympathize) with Garfield's version of Saverin (in truth he got the boot from FB for a very different reason) since The Social Network is told through four distinct perspectives - Zuckerberg, Saverin, Winklevoss twins & Divya (as co-storytellers), and Parker - and Saverin seemed the most sympathetic character to write.
@@thatfilmydesaikid "in truth he got the boot from FB for a very different reason" you literally have zero evidence to back that up, you sound like a zucker fanboy
@@thatfilmydesaikid What Zuckerberg did was a complete violation of SEC law as saverin was not informed of the 7 times that his shares were diluted. Zuckerberg created the Delaware corporation on his own and then diluted saverins shares down after the old company was bought over.
The Courier New font family could be used because that is one of the only fixed-width fonts. This means that every character is just as wide as the others. Take these lines from example: "iiiiiiiiii" "WWWWWWWWWW" These lines appear different lengths although they are both ten characters long. This property of a font family can make it quite easy to make tables / charts with solely text.
Yes. Mechanical typewriters (and probably electric ones) placed the letters one at a time, moving a fixed distance between them. This is still used in TV, stage, and movie scripts to make it easier to estimate the run-time of a scene at a glance. Maybe the stenographers use that font for a similar reason?
I came here to say precisely this. As a research scientist, we also use this in sequence alignments when looking at conservation amongst different organisms to see precisely if and where deviations occur in both their coding sequence and translated protein sequence.
It's not just its monospaced nature, it's also because each character looks distinct: There's little issue determining the different between uppercase "i"s and lowercase "L"s, or the number 1, for example.
a big reason for why courier is so common is because all the letters are exactly evenly spaced from each other. programmers use this font sometimes too, for that reason
I'm a programmer and I can say most important thing is the indention and when using a monospace font, lines align perfectly. There are many amazing monospace fonts but I've never seen a programmer code in a normal font (not monospace).
FINALLY I HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE TO OFFER THIS CHANNEL!!! Courier is used in screenplays (and probably courts) because the letters are all equidistant from one another, contrary to most other fonts which have a varied width depending on the letter (consider "l" versus "m"). Because of that, it's very easy to estimate the length of a transcript by evaluating how many pages there are. One page of screenplay is about one minute of screen time. I suspect it's something similar here. You can very easily estimate the number of characters per page of transcript because the font is uniform. Unfortunately, this also makes it slightly harder to read, as you pointed out, because there are bizarre gaps between letters that don't usually exist.
@@JayJonahJaymeson It does resemble a typewriter font, however the reasoning behind its use is that the columns will always be uniform due to the equal width of each letter, which gives a page of text a predictable length.
It might be touchy to some, but you gotta admit that the entire case is fascinating as hell to look at. Couldn’t write the amount of shit that went on during that entire thing.
YES! MY useless education in graphic design finally pays off! Courier font is a monospaced font, which means that all characters have the same width, it is more practical in documents which contain aligned columns of text so they can all be legible across various platforms and mediums. There are several other more useful monospace fonts available but a trend has already been set.
Another possible reason as to why this movie is really accurate is that both of Aaron Sorkin’s siblings are lawyers and that he has shot a lot of legal dramas. His sister was the person that advised him to write the script for his first movie A few good men
Wasn't he also heavily involved with the series The West Wing? I loved that show, even though there was a hell of a lot of talking and waking going on. Lol
I dunno, that might have come across as bullying. I mean the statement taken literally would be naive and taken in it's obviously sarcastic tone would be common knowledge. Implying that saying that was because he was lying under oath would be implying someone is a criminal because they knew a crime exists. I know murders happen, suggesting I am a murderer because of that would be absurd.
@@Jartran72 But if you know what my secrets are they will no longer be secrets but you'll still know what secrets are even though they aren't...I'm sorry, I think I just created a hole in reality via paradox.
Its like that for a lot of the top jobs. Being a surgeon cant be easy when youre on hour 16 of an operation, you really need to take a whizz and you've just realised that one of the clamps you had on isn't accounted for. Or how about the person in charge of the McFlurry machine at McDonald's? That's a pretty... high-octane environment. No room for error with those Oreo crumbs! Plus you gotta turn it off for a few hours each night to wash it and then what if someone orders a mcflurry then? Well you're stuffed then, aren't you? So not everyone has an easy time of it at work...
@@swine13 At least doctors and lawyers don't get treated like the dirt under somebody's boot for the abhorrent crime of... hmm let me see here... being poor. Of course! Lazy, filthy, poor people am I right? Oh you can't afford to college so you have to work in the service industry? Lol, your fault, should have gone to med school loser. Please, you sound like Mr. Burns dude. Give it a rest.
@@rammsteinrulz16 i'd rather be the fry guy at McDonald's than practice family law. ANY practice area is trying as a lawyer, but Family Law has to be the worst...
Just some quick support: I used to work in publishing, and courier was often used in transcripts because (A) it's serif, which means there are no 'I/l' errors in reading, and each character has a fixed width (IE if you have a row of Is and a row of Ms, they will fill with the same number of characters), which means that the length of the transcript can be more accurately gauged by the page count. Courier was based off of typewriters, which shunted the roller forward with every key press and so each letter had to take up the same amount of space, which is why it's unique--most fonts you see have variable width, so narrow letters will look more 'smashed-together' and can mess with your page-based word count.The fixed width also makes it much more 'neat' if you're manually justifying, which is handy for formatting screenplays or drawing little pictures or patterns with the letters (like Jack Torrance's manuscript in Kubrick's The Shining). For stenographers, I imagine page count isn't that important, but I imagine from the clip that formatting is important, and at-glance readability is far more important than aesthetics.
i guess, for a stenographer using the font that allows for more accurate page length is important for the same exact reason it's important in screenwriting - there they actually use page length to count out the approx. screentime (and by approx. i mean down to some 5 minutes, so YEAH). You can imagine, time is a big deal in movie making. It may as well be so in court procedures? upd: It's actually down to a minute (or at least it is in screenwriting, not sure about court transcripts).
Growing up both of my parents were lawyers, my dad still is (my mom is a judge now) and yet I’ve never learned and actually understood so much about our US legal system than I have from watching your videos.
Courier is monospaced and every symbol is clearly distinct from other. So There can be no confusion between I and l or 0 and O. That also makes it the best font to digitize a physical page with OCR software accurately and map the coordinates in the text.
The monospacing is typically the most important part in the screenwriting side at least, as it allows the average translation of a page of dialogue to a minute of film.
The original Courier font is more distinct than Courier New. In Courier New, the 1 and l are indeed different, but are very similar, whereas, in the original Courier font, the difference between 1 and l and I is very obvious.
For anyone wondering, im fairly certain the "movie star" referred to in the deposition by the twins is Natalie Portman. She attended Harvard at the time.
So some other suggestions -Legal Eagle Plays Ace Attorney - Trial scenes from the British series "Broadchurch" -The trial from the Bee movie. -The movie "Legal Eagles"
I think I’m most disappointed that you didn’t review and comment on the actions that zuckerberg’s lawyers took to screw Ed out of his shares. And how he thought they were his lawyers too; I’d be really interested to see what an attorney thinks of what they did
That scene where Zuckerberg talks to the second year associate at the end is my favorite! "It doesn't matter. I asked the question, now they're thinking about it." Pure gold!
13:34 the movie star is Natalie Portman. She was interviewed by the author of the book that inspired the film. She was a senior on campus when Facebook was founded
Not an objection, just a note for the record. The description you've given about court reporters is accurate. Although in the movie, from the way they were stroking the keys, I could tell they were not real court reporters. And I've never seen a court reporter put their steno machine on top of a table. It's usually on a tripod about waist level to the reporter. Typing with arms and hands up that high, as depicted in the movie, would cause great muscle strain to the arms and back. I'm guessing the reason the steno machines were on the table must have been so it would be visible on camera.
I loved to see her waving her hands at the steno machine and watching words appear on the laptop screen. In general, when using computers, movies are very often not overly accurate. People hit a button, mash a couple of keys and within about 2 seconds the computer is fully activated, a program is opened and the screen is filled with several windows full of outputs from that program. Very amusing xD
@@indigowendigo8165 Overruled! What she has mentioned is completely irrelevant to the topic within the video. As is your response to defend her action. I'll let you both off with a warning. But if either of you go off the subject at hand again. I will place you both in contempt of court.
I'd be very interested in hearing your take on the legal ramifications of the Theranos and Elizabeth Holmes fraud scandal. How would you approach this case if you were the defense and what potential consequences could there be for all the board members involved with the company?
There was this one scene later on where Eduardo finds out his shares were diluted to almost nothing and he confronts Mark about it. He also tells him to lawyer up because he’s coming back to take over the company. I was wondering how much of that would be possible legally.
Well, the deposition that we see is a result of that lawsuit, and as Rashida Jones' character indicates, if the suit had gone to trial, Zuck could have lost and yes, Eduardo could have basically gotten the whole company. Obviously, Eduardo was perfectly happy to just take an unknown settlement but he could have declined and taken it to trial if he wanted, but at a certain point it's just not worth the risk for either side
Objection: There is a Supreme Court case that pertains to addressing a person by their first name. In Hamilton v. Alabama, the court ruled that a African-American witness is entitled to be address using a honorific (Miss/Mrs./Mr.) if white witnesses are.
In film school we learned that currier is used because every letter takes up the same amount of space on the page, meaning that every page contains the same number of characters. They've clocked it and each page equals 1 minute of screen time so if you have a 90 page script it will be a 90 minute movie.
The reason that courier is often used is because it is a public domain font due to it never being trademarked by its creator, IBM. It is monospaced and installed on virtually every operating system, so when GUI's were not as common on computers it was important to have usable font. This made it very useful in the past, but today it is still used because nobody can seem to be bothered to change to a more modern font.
I dont think you can trademark fonts. I mean you can, youcan trademark anything, but it being enforcable is another question. The only placewhere such a thing would be enforcable is if the font is used in someones company logo and even then only if that logo can be confused for the trademark holders logo. Trademarks exist to do one thing and one thing only, prevent customers from confusing two products. And if i trademark a name for a handcreme you can still use that name for anything unrelated to beauty products.
TaliOrion I think the biggest reason it’s used is the monospacing and has a serif. Most modern monospaced fonts now are all sans serif, but serif is said to still be (debatable) easier to read. But yeah, a mix of tradition, cross platform, serif and monospace.
@@ScottLongwellR Hm.Got to say it is a bit surprising that the average font would rise to the creative level of being copyrighted (but thats different from place to place, for instance, while germany is not as puritanical as the US german courts dont typicly recognise a copyright for porn) - if theyare, by the way, you dont have "to copyright" it. It is protected with creation, you can file a copyright for the record but all thats for is so you can easier proof that you are indeed the creator.
@@rtg5881 There are three main ways to protect a typeface: 1. Trademark; 2. Copyright; 3. Patent; In the U.S., typefaces (the design of the letters) don't receive copyright protection, although they do in most other countries. However, in the US, fonts can be copyrighted as computer files or programs that tell your computer how to display or print the typeface. IBM invented the Courier typeface and protected it with a design patent and a invention patent (for the means of producing it.) Howerever, *they neglected to trademark the name of the typeface* and so once the design patent expired other people could sell Courier typefaces and call what they were selling "Courier" typefaces. This means that a regulation or policy can specify "Courier" typeface and not be locked into a particular vendor for that typeface -- since "Courier" is not a trademarked name and it has passed into general usage like the term "Escalator". ----------------------------- You're right that under current law copyright attaches upon creation. But if you don't register your copyright within three month of creating the work of art then (under US federal law) people are (legally) free to use your work without having to pay you damages. The best you can do is register the copyright and then get an injunction against future use and sue for damages (and attorney fees) that accrue after the date you registered the copyright.
Courier is used because it's an "evenly spaced" typeface, every character takes up the same vertical and horizontal space, making the font easy to read and consistent across the page. It also makes it much easier to write notes in the margin. It's used a lot in lit mags to make slush readers lives easier
The Wire reaction please (Omar testifies against Bird and Clay Davis takes the stand). Season 2 Episode 6 (plus maybe S2 Ep5 - explains part about Omar's clothes) and Season 5 Episode 7 (plus maybe S5 Ep4 - Clay Davis Grand Jury testimony).
You should include the episode name or season/episode number if you want him to consider it. He may or may not be familiar with the show and your comment is far too vague for someone that hasn't seen it. (I mean this in a constructive way, not trying to be a jerk).
That show is scarily true to the reality of what is happening on the streets of Baltimore. The bigger plot points though do have a degree of cinematic license, but nevertheless I feel like since David Simon was a reporter in the area for many years he has a very good understanding of the reality of what is happening in the city. Plus a huge pro-union pro-newspaper bias, like seasons 2 and 5 seem like they are the point of the whole show, with the rest of the seasons being corroborating evidence from his perspective. Regardless it's a great show and I'd love to see it covered.
Re: Courier typeface I imagine the reason stenographers use it is the same reason screenwriters use it. It’s a monospaced font, meaning each character takes up an equal amount of space (as opposed to proportional fonts where smaller letters like “i” take up less space than bigger letters like “w”) and this makes the text layout much more predictable and easier to reference across different platforms.
That movie star part is about Natalie Portman, who actually studied at Harvard around the same time Zuckerberg did (she started few years before him I believe) and was providing some inside for Fincher and Sorkin for this movie.
I would love to see more movies set in deposition meetings, _Social Network_ did it so well, especially in how director David Fincher and writer Aaron Sorkin managed to craft an interesting narrative structure to it.
@@bossmorris1 das nicht trotzdem noch ein bisschen zoophil das nicht der vorgesehene Empfänger sein ist jede natürliche Person ist das denn für eine Rolle spielt sie mir die Rechnung von ihnen erhalten wie ich das Gefühl das zu spät für dich auch nicht viel verändert die ganze Woche zu kommen falls das für sie da war der erste große Freude gemacht eine Rolle spielt sie mir die Rechnung von ihnen erhalten wie ich es anders nicht geht aber nicht haja ich das nicht trotzdem noch nicht einmal eine Mail von Frau macht es ist ein megakolon das nicht der vorgesehene Empfänger sein ist jede natürliche Person ist das denn was die Absicht war doch auch ein bisschen Interesse entwickle kommt ihr mit der hand das nicht trotzdem ein paar Monate alt ich habe ich mich nicht 4
There is nothing better than one lawyer trying to tell the stenographer to stop typing, and the other lawyer telling the sonographer to keep typing to keep it all on the record. P.S. I was usually the lawyer telling the stenographer to keep typing to keep everything on the record. So often, lawyers want to go off the record to say things that opposing counsel really would want to be on the record ;-)
That's happened to me. I was reporting a deposition. One counsel told me to go off the record. The other counsel immediately responded by telling me not to go off the record. And then about 5-minute argument ensued with the attorneys going back and forth arguing about whether I should keep typing or not. I kept everything on the record, taking down their argument, but felt so uncomfortable. It was only about 5 minutes, but felt more like a half hour to me.
Tlz Tlsrz haha! Classic! Lawyers always go off the record to say something that they would never dare say on the record. I try never to give them that opportunity. As far as I’m concerned, nothing should ever be “off the record” except settlement discussions.
@@3ngin33r7 If another party behaves in an abusive or harassing manner during a deposition you can try calling the judge to get an order as to certain behavior or questioning, or you can continue the deposition until such time that you can get in front of a judge.
Courier may be used in legal documents, as well as screenplays and such, in part just because it was very common in olden times (a few decades ago) but also because it's what's called a "monospaced" font, meaning that each character uses the exact same horizontal space as any other. I'm not entirely sure why this would be useful for legal documents, except perhaps for creating makeshift tables using the space key to separate items in such a way that they align properly. Really, the fact that characters align from one line to the next is the only useful feature that I can think of.
It’s called a stenographer machine. We don’t call it typing, we are “writing”. We use different combinations of keys to record syllables and also “briefs” which are abbreviations for standard phrases.
In the scene where the lawyer is deposing her own witness, the testimony (or similar testimony) might actually be from an affidavit, and the filmmakers decided to present it as a deposition for cinematic effect.
In high school a technical college talked to the seniors about jobs they probably didn't know about. Since I was a _total nerd_ that had a computer (mid to late 90's where very different) who typed like 290 GWAM (*edited*)I thought that court reporter really sounded interesting. I waited until after the class was done to ask her about it so I didn't seem like an even bigger nerd, then actually followed through with it. Until I was given a CD that had lessons and a cardboard Stenotype. I couldn't even begin to function with it and couldn't get used to the single stroke methods or phonetic aspects. In all these legal shows/movies I focus on them because of that experience and knowing how hard a skill it actually is.
I imagine it might've been particularly difficult for you specifically because you were so good at typing on a regular keyboard. Switching to something like a DVORAK would also be incredibly challenging because of the muscle memory you developed to be able to type 290 wpm (I looked it up and world record is 216 wpm, but I'll just assume you were misremembering and you typed at a rapid but realistic speed, like 120-150, which is still 3-4x faster than average). Learning a stenographer's keyboard is like relearning how to speak with one of those Steven Hawking voice boxes. Similar outcome (recording information or communicating verbally), but very different methods.
@@osmium6832 As far as all those "quick brown fox" type of programs can be accurate. But yeah, re-reading my message it was GWAM not WPM. When you where done with your assignment 5-10 minutes into the 45 minutes they gave you in typing classes back then they'd just have you screw around with the teaching software. The only thing that could slow you down was when you had to reach for numbers really.
6:30 OBJECTION! Im studying audiovisual comunication And in script they teached us that we must write in courier or courier new because its an standar In theory 1 page of script in courier its equal to 1 min in the real world I suppose that they use courier so you can get an aproximation of the time of the speach
You talking: volume accurate. Movie clips: volume too low. Exam grade tune: volume too high! That scared the shibeebus out of me and it looked like an annoying ad.
Also, if you want another amazing legal movie based on a true story (AKA more background, depositions, etc.), please do one of these for The Insider. It stars Russell Crowe, but some of the real attorneys from the real situation got to be in the movie, and a lot of the deposition scenes were filmed where they happened in real life.
@@LegalEagle Dr. Mike is a sensationalist. If you must collaborate with a medical professional, please find someone else! The only one I know of is Dr. Ed Hope of Sick Notes, but he is in the UK, so it's not feasible. Please not Dr. Mike!
@@kayehenry3737 I second this. Dr Mike and Ed had a little dispute and within that, Dr Mike had a very slandering response to Ed whom was polite. It all could be found in the video of 8 to 9 months ago of Ed's.
I really found this video interesting and some comparison to Canadian law: 1. In Canada (or at least Ontario) we call depositions Examination for Discovery. 2. Opposing parties are allowed to sit in on other party’s discovery but it is pretty rare. 3. After a discovery (or disposition) we don’t go to summary judgment motion… we go to mediation if mandatory and then pretrial and trial (years later). I really liked this video and found it very interesting to see the differences and similarities!
It's so funny to me that in some countries classes are cancelled. In Finland, classes aren't cancelled even when it's freezing cold outside (-20 Celsius).
7:33 Im reminded of the court martial scene in Blackadder goes forth where Baldrick has to testify against captain Blackadder and is told to "deny everything" . He then denies his own name, rank and when the defense lawyer (Percy, his squadmate) says "Come on Baldrick it's me" he replies "no it isn't" .
I've always been mystified by shorthand and stenographers' machines. After the brief discussion here of the modern version that hooks up to a laptop, I'm even more mystified. If the stenographer is typing things out phonetically, I don't get how they make sure the record is accurate. I suppose the software must use like spell-checking on steroids? And do they switch to their normal keyboard if they need to spell something out letter by letter? (And how did that work with the old mechanical systems?) I'd definitely watch a video dedicated to this weird specialized tech. Also, objection: you didn't show yourself reacting to the "Full Movie". 😜 P.S. Thanks for the recommendation of NYT's "Verbatim: What Is a Photocopier? | Op-Docs" - that was truly hilarious.
I'm not a stenographer but I work in a law firm so take this with a grain of salt. A stenographer doesn't take down what people say in deposition/court exactly as they say it. There's a lot of shorthand, abbreviations, and tricks to ensure everything gets written accurately to be remembered for future use. Also, stenography machines (I believe it's called a stenotype) aren't built like a standard keyboard: a typical machine has fewer letters and is shaped more like piano keys. I hope this is helpful, and I'm open to being corrected if I'm wrong.
Thanks. Yeah, after I posted my comment, I came across some video of a stenographer with a decent view of the keyboard, and I see now that it's what's called a "chording keyboard", where multiple keys need to be pressed simultaneously to generate each piece of text. Perhaps there are chords available that allow them to individually generate letters A-Z when they have to, for parts of testimony that're spelling-critical.
There was once a time in school where we needed to study a local police report for a cosed case so we would learn how police reports looked like and what the police did. It was elementary school. Fun fact: The entire thing was typed in Courier font.
In my civics class I remember we had a mock trial and the main reason why I won it was because I in the pre-trial got into a whole thing about the color and writing on a school bus with the main witness that made his testimony questionable
I just wanted to say thank you. I'm going to be finishing my business degree next year(I'll be an accountant). After watching your videos I think I'm going to go to law school in the coming years
Objection! I've got a question about purjury. By the nature of human communications people make mistakes all the time. For instance, my nephew asked how old I was, and I told him 37, but my wife corrected me that I'm actually 38. I had no intention to deceive. If I had made a similar mistake during a deposition, could I be facing purjury? What is the threshold between "mistakes" and "lies"?
The key point of perjury is "willful". Prosecution would have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that your intention was to mislead them when you gave an incorrect age. I suspect that's why you see the "I can't recall" statement used in a lot shows where the person being questioned might be withholding information. It's difficult to prove someone can or can't recall something without being that person unless they've said something previously that indicates they do have the recollection on the specific question. (Side note: I'm not a lawyer)
@@omegachaos32 Yes. Willful + material. If you willfully lie about your age out of vanity, and the lie is not material to any question before the court --then there is no criminal perjury. So if you even if you purposely say you're 37 when you're really 38 it is unlikely to be perjury.
@@ScottLongwellR Lawyers (I know family law so correct me if I am wrong) will usually tell you to just say i don't know or I can't remember if you are at all not sure about your memory of the event or item in question.
@@joer8854 : You're right. Both on and off the stand, saying "I don't know" is a great answer when you're unsure. And, especially on the stand,"I don't remember" is much better than giving an answer and being wrong. Because even if it doesn't rise to the level of perjury -- being caught in even an innocent untruth can bring doubt on the rest of the person's testimony.
My aunt works as a court stenographer and she used the Courier font as well. Apparently, it has become a sort of standard in stenography. She doesn't know the exact reason of using Courier but she personally likes the font. It makes the record easier to read, she said.
Courier font is mono-spaced, every character has the same width, which means every line has the same amount of characters. It looks weird because 'w' and 'm' are the same width as 'i' or 'l', but it has some uses, it is helpful especially in programming (the spaces are as wide as characters so you can have nice hierarchic structure of the code), though I can see how it could be useful to screenwriters too. Not sure how it is useful to stenographers, but I assume they find it handy for similar reasons.
It's probably useful to be able to gauge timing for any exerts that you plan to read out at trial etc as planning out the timing of your presentation is likely to be important especially to make sure that you don't end up losing momentum by running up against the end of a sitting at a critical stage in the testimony etc. I can see this being even more important when planning things like cross examinations especially if they are going to be long and run over multiple sittings, being interrupted by a recess in a key line of questioning on cross is probably going to turn out badly, not only do you lose momentum but you could easily end up tipping your hand to your opponent and then give them time to think over their response to the rest of your line of questioning.
Objection, Zucc wasn't refusing to answer that he answered "yes" to a prior question, he was mocking the use of the phrase "the affirmative" to mean "yes." "Do you remember answering in the affirmative?" (i.e Do you remember answering yes?) "The affirmative" (i.e. yes)
IDK if you got a comment about this but: Courier is beloved of stenographers, screenwriters, and computer programmers because it's what's called a "monospaced" font. Every letter takes up the same space as every other letter. So you will get consistent-width columns, you have a consistent-width page, and in stenography or screenwriting, it will generate a document with a length that is correlated to the amount of time it takes to speak (in screenwriting, one page of a script equals one minute of screen time, so when we talk about a ninety-page script in screenwriting, we're talking about a script we anticipate will turn into a roughly 90-minute movie (actual runtime somewhere around 88-92 minutes, w/e). (it's used in computer programming because it generates predictable columnar widths, which makes things easier if you're missing a close-parenthesis somewhere) Thank you so much for the work you've done around the 2020 election, btw, you made a lot of complicated legal issues MUCH simpler to understand!
Objection: As someone with dyslexia and who works in tech, I personally find courier to be easier to read. The zeros have dashes where the letter O does not. The shapes of the capital I and lowercase l are different making it easier to read without error. I assume that is why it is used. Less chance of a mistake being made when revisiting the notes.
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One of the best quotes from this movie. "You can't win in a deposition, but you can lose."
He said it was from a movie not this movie
@@shailygupta5849 ok which movie
That's very similar to what I tell my clients, which is "nothing can be gained by your deposition." I signal to them that the less they say, the better. Answer the question asked and keep it short.
Yea
in the end, the brothers got paid and then invested the money and became billionaires, so by being smart the lawsuit turned out extremely well for them
just as an aside, the “movie star” is natalie portman who was actually attending harvard at the time.
Holy SH1T. Thanks for not making me go to google 😅
I also remember reading that she gave David Fincher a guided tour of the campus so he could get a feel for "Harvard Life" in the pre-production phase.
I always assumed it was a reference to Matt Damon's time there, but Natalie Portman was a student at the time so I guess that makes more sense
Henry Campbell youre 17 years off.
Only 17 years. You almost had it. Almost.
Damn, Natalie Portman got into Harvard?
so sad the scene of “.03%” wasn’t included. such a hard hitting scene.
SORRY MY PRADA’S AT THE CLEANERS
garfield is so good
I think he excluded that coz of what he said about the whole Saverin part of the deposition: It didn't make sense.
In retrospect, I also think the company shares % part was revealed for the audience to empathize (or sympathize) with Garfield's version of Saverin (in truth he got the boot from FB for a very different reason) since The Social Network is told through four distinct perspectives - Zuckerberg, Saverin, Winklevoss twins & Divya (as co-storytellers), and Parker - and Saverin seemed the most sympathetic character to write.
@@thatfilmydesaikid i mean i understand why he didn’t put it but still i enjoy that scene and kinda wanted to see his reaction.
@@thatfilmydesaikid "in truth he got the boot from FB for a very different reason" you literally have zero evidence to back that up, you sound like a zucker fanboy
@@thatfilmydesaikid What Zuckerberg did was a complete violation of SEC law as saverin was not informed of the 7 times that his shares were diluted. Zuckerberg created the Delaware corporation on his own and then diluted saverins shares down after the old company was bought over.
I like to believe you're not actually wearing any pants in these videos, just a suit jacket and shirt and tie.
HAHAHAHA that would be really funny if true
We'll never prove he doesn't, so...
That always happen to my friend.. he's an online teacher.... hahahahaha.....
Objection! This is speculation.
@@Meep_Sheep the other side has not given any evidence in the first place. Contradicting or otherwise.
Lawyer: Let's break for lunch
LeagleEagle: That's EXACTLY what a lawyer would say!
969 likes ... nice almost at 1K.
It is 999 likes for me rn but I’m not gonna like
@@morganruiz7097 lol I liked it, when it was on 999
@@morganruiz7097 And now I've unliked lol because why not ... I was technically the 1000th like, but I just retracted it.
A+ for legal realism.
Zuckerberg: I’m not a bad guy.
Narrator: He was.
now the story of a wealthy family who lost everything
For a second there I almost convince myself that Zuckerberg was played by Michael Cera.
n00n and one lawyer that had to make sense of all this nonsense...this is the Social Network
Matrim42 except how he bought that guys stocks illegally
Really ?
I enjoy this format.
A real professional talking about his field in a non-condescending manor to my semi understanding brain.
Good job, sir.
Manner, not manor :)
You might like Dr Hopes Sick notes
@@jacob8565
YES, omg. You can tell he loves to teach and learn about the field he is so passionate about (said field being medicine, of course.)
You should try Dr Mike
@@vicmartone He might be in a manor. You don't know where his office is.
My fav line in this movie is where one of the twins says
“I’m 6ft 5, 220 and there’s two of me”
I'm pretty sure Ty said it.
Cringey
VoltGe it’s well written. They’re supposed to sound like rich stuck up Harvard boys with good genes. It makes sense
@@DeuPKay Well said!
Very cool also mine
The Courier New font family could be used because that is one of the only fixed-width fonts. This means that every character is just as wide as the others.
Take these lines from example:
"iiiiiiiiii"
"WWWWWWWWWW"
These lines appear different lengths although they are both ten characters long.
This property of a font family can make it quite easy to make tables / charts with solely text.
Thank you! That is fascinating! :D
It could also be because typewriters typically used a font that looked like that
Yes. Mechanical typewriters (and probably electric ones) placed the letters one at a time, moving a fixed distance between them. This is still used in TV, stage, and movie scripts to make it easier to estimate the run-time of a scene at a glance. Maybe the stenographers use that font for a similar reason?
I came here to say precisely this. As a research scientist, we also use this in sequence alignments when looking at conservation amongst different organisms to see precisely if and where deviations occur in both their coding sequence and translated protein sequence.
It's not just its monospaced nature, it's also because each character looks distinct: There's little issue determining the different between uppercase "i"s and lowercase "L"s, or the number 1, for example.
Objection! Despite always complaining about Judges not ruling on objections, I almost never see you actually rule on objections in the comments.
I take it that means the objection is not overruled.....!
What up cadaver?! Vish objection!!!
He sticks around for 1 hour after publishing the video and does that.
a big reason for why courier is so common is because all the letters are exactly evenly spaced from each other. programmers use this font sometimes too, for that reason
It's called a monospaced font and, yes, programmers usually use them when writing code because it makes everything line up nicely.
I love your channel man.
I'm a programmer and I can say most important thing is the indention and when using a monospace font, lines align perfectly. There are many amazing monospace fonts but I've never seen a programmer code in a normal font (not monospace).
Well, you are someone I didn't expect here😅
I’m a programmer and could care less what the font is the indentation is the important part
The legal stuff is interesting and all but the true brilliance of this channel is the pure love and passion for the law
Rico: "LLLLAAAAAAAAAUUWWWWWW!!!!"
@@JaelinBezel I am… the luh!
FINALLY I HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE TO OFFER THIS CHANNEL!!!
Courier is used in screenplays (and probably courts) because the letters are all equidistant from one another, contrary to most other fonts which have a varied width depending on the letter (consider "l" versus "m"). Because of that, it's very easy to estimate the length of a transcript by evaluating how many pages there are. One page of screenplay is about one minute of screen time. I suspect it's something similar here. You can very easily estimate the number of characters per page of transcript because the font is uniform. Unfortunately, this also makes it slightly harder to read, as you pointed out, because there are bizarre gaps between letters that don't usually exist.
The font was designed to resemble that of a typewriter, so I assume stenographers just kept using it so their records remained fairly consistent.
Yes!!!
Came here to say this. Up voted your correct answer instead.
@@JayJonahJaymeson It does resemble a typewriter font, however the reasoning behind its use is that the columns will always be uniform due to the equal width of each letter, which gives a page of text a predictable length.
It's called a monospace font, programmers always use a font which has that quality.
"Not uncommon to have the entire room packed with attorneys" Gotta get those billable hours in.
Hey man, I would like to see you review The People v O.J Simpson: American Crime story show.
Yes!
Agreed
Omg YES.
ooooh that’s a good one
It might be touchy to some, but you gotta admit that the entire case is fascinating as hell to look at. Couldn’t write the amount of shit that went on during that entire thing.
YES! MY useless education in graphic design finally pays off! Courier font is a monospaced font, which means that all characters have the same width, it is more practical in documents which contain aligned columns of text so they can all be legible across various platforms and mediums. There are several other more useful monospace fonts available but a trend has already been set.
I love that there are 3 comments in a row about this exact thing! Thanks for your added clarification of this issue.
I fell asleep half way through your comment.
TLDR makes me weep for future generations.
Courier is an elegant tool used for crafting formal documents. Courier New is trash I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy.
.... are we seriously going apeshift over a minor difference in fonts.
Thank God, something to distract me from my homework.
Instead of being distracted by Facebook, you were instead distracted by a pleasant reaction video of a deposition of... Facebook.
If you're studying law you can excuse this as research.
@@tricksterhuaun This is my excuse.
Zuckerberg is a lizard we all know it.
@@tricksterhuaun unfortunately not. I'm a nursing student
Another possible reason as to why this movie is really accurate is that both of Aaron Sorkin’s siblings are lawyers and that he has shot a lot of legal dramas. His sister was the person that advised him to write the script for his first movie A few good men
Wasn't he also heavily involved with the series The West Wing? I loved that show, even though there was a hell of a lot of talking and waking going on. Lol
@Saint Lenny, Sorkin created The West Wing
he also has a particular style of writing. basically making the characters say stories that circle back to the point they are trying to prove
interesting that he comes from a family of lawyers, I never knew that!
The lawyer missed a trick with the "I'm sure that's the first time someones lied under oath" to respond "Is that from personal knowledge?"
I dunno, that might have come across as bullying. I mean the statement taken literally would be naive and taken in it's obviously sarcastic tone would be common knowledge. Implying that saying that was because he was lying under oath would be implying someone is a criminal because they knew a crime exists. I know murders happen, suggesting I am a murderer because of that would be absurd.
@@GriffinPilgrim Who did you murder? I know what trust is so you can trust me with your secrets :)
@@Jartran72 But if you know what my secrets are they will no longer be secrets but you'll still know what secrets are even though they aren't...I'm sorry, I think I just created a hole in reality via paradox.
he chose his words pretty well, “guess” and “first time” implying he doesnt know about lying under oath and that its his guess
@Zoomer My point exactly; his position is weak and it would only have improved his situation if she had attempted a weak insinuation.
man being a lawyer worth any salt has to be taxing on sanity, i give proper lawyers credit for putting up with all the crap
100%. Take a look into family law, see how long you would last XD
Its like that for a lot of the top jobs. Being a surgeon cant be easy when youre on hour 16 of an operation, you really need to take a whizz and you've just realised that one of the clamps you had on isn't accounted for.
Or how about the person in charge of the McFlurry machine at McDonald's?
That's a pretty... high-octane environment. No room for error with those Oreo crumbs! Plus you gotta turn it off for a few hours each night to wash it and then what if someone orders a mcflurry then? Well you're stuffed then, aren't you?
So not everyone has an easy time of it at work...
@@swine13 the person stuck at McDonald's likely goes through worse hardships outside of work than the doctor or lawyer
@@swine13 At least doctors and lawyers don't get treated like the dirt under somebody's boot for the abhorrent crime of... hmm let me see here... being poor. Of course! Lazy, filthy, poor people am I right? Oh you can't afford to college so you have to work in the service industry? Lol, your fault, should have gone to med school loser.
Please, you sound like Mr. Burns dude. Give it a rest.
@@rammsteinrulz16 i'd rather be the fry guy at McDonald's than practice family law. ANY practice area is trying as a lawyer, but Family Law has to be the worst...
Objection! No one actually leaves their comments in the form of an objection, therefore they should all be invalid!
Sustained.
I used to try to keep mine in the form of an objection.
*Objection!*
I've left plenty of objection-styled comments on various *LegalEagle* videos!
Objection! Argumentative!!
I prefer to leave my comments in the form of an amicus brief.
Just some quick support: I used to work in publishing, and courier was often used in transcripts because (A) it's serif, which means there are no 'I/l' errors in reading, and each character has a fixed width (IE if you have a row of Is and a row of Ms, they will fill with the same number of characters), which means that the length of the transcript can be more accurately gauged by the page count. Courier was based off of typewriters, which shunted the roller forward with every key press and so each letter had to take up the same amount of space, which is why it's unique--most fonts you see have variable width, so narrow letters will look more 'smashed-together' and can mess with your page-based word count.The fixed width also makes it much more 'neat' if you're manually justifying, which is handy for formatting screenplays or drawing little pictures or patterns with the letters (like Jack Torrance's manuscript in Kubrick's The Shining).
For stenographers, I imagine page count isn't that important, but I imagine from the clip that formatting is important, and at-glance readability is far more important than aesthetics.
William Hull it’s monospaced.
@@borismuller86 Right! That's the word. I only recall like half of the typography terms I probably ought to know.
There are lots of monospaced fonts more legible than Courier tbh...
i guess, for a stenographer using the font that allows for more accurate page length is important for the same exact reason it's important in screenwriting - there they actually use page length to count out the approx. screentime (and by approx. i mean down to some 5 minutes, so YEAH).
You can imagine, time is a big deal in movie making. It may as well be so in court procedures?
upd: It's actually down to a minute (or at least it is in screenwriting, not sure about court transcripts).
Objection! Your ad transitions are too smooth for RUclips.
lol. my thaught exactly
Overruled 👨⚖
@@rogelioabraham3642 why?
@@rogelioabraham3642 you mean sustained
Rogelio Abraham Objection, Relevance?
OBJECTION:
This man’s tie is FAR too fabulous.
Sustained
Growing up both of my parents were lawyers, my dad still is (my mom is a judge now) and yet I’ve never learned and actually understood so much about our US legal system than I have from watching your videos.
I'd say that's a matter of if they are trying to teach, and how well jargon is broken down into layman terms, both of which he seems to do well.
Courier is monospaced and every symbol is clearly distinct from other. So There can be no confusion between I and l or 0 and O. That also makes it the best font to digitize a physical page with OCR software accurately and map the coordinates in the text.
Actually, lowercase L and 1 are very similar in Courier New font.
The monospacing is typically the most important part in the screenwriting side at least, as it allows the average translation of a page of dialogue to a minute of film.
Is that i and L or L and i.
The original Courier font is more distinct than Courier New. In Courier New, the 1 and l are indeed different, but are very similar, whereas, in the original Courier font, the difference between 1 and l and I is very obvious.
'0' isn't slashed in Courier....
That tie is so dope
Came here to say the same thing! Really nice tie.
my tie doesn't have to be dope. i am dope
How about the American Crime Story series The People vs. OJ Simpson? I imagine it's EXTREMELY accurate, but I'd still like your critique.
This is a great idea!
If you look at the real footage of the trial the show is a 100% recreation of them with tiny dramatic liberties in things like voice tones and such.
"the glove didn't fit" :D
David Fincher said in his dvd commentary that the actress who plays Gretchen (Eduardo's lawyer) is an actual lawyer who also picked up acting!
For anyone wondering, im fairly certain the "movie star" referred to in the deposition by the twins is Natalie Portman. She attended Harvard at the time.
She actually was that very movie star!
I’m fairly certain that the reason why the question went unanswered in the film was so the audience would go “duh”.
@@sarahhopper8891 Well, Natalie Portmans alumni wasn't common knowledge for me, so I looked it looked up lol
So some other suggestions
-Legal Eagle Plays Ace Attorney
- Trial scenes from the British series "Broadchurch"
-The trial from the Bee movie.
-The movie "Legal Eagles"
I can't see David Tenant as anything other than the 10th Doctor.
@LegalEagle
While I really want you to review Broadchurch, I could not think of a better response. Also his name has two Ns
LegalEagle Amen
Jesse Schoedel He's also in the new Rooster Teeth show gen:LOCK.
He did review the first case of Ace Attorney - it was the anime version, but it's basically the same as the game.
You should cover the deposition on The Office between Jan and Dunder Mifflin Inc!
What episode is that?
@@LegalEagle season 4 episode 12
@@higginsandrew11 I don't think Mr legal eagle is prepared for such advanced and complex cases!
@@vincent6845 thats what she said
@@higginsandrew11 Netflix says it's Season 4 Episode 8 titled "The Deposition"
I think I’m most disappointed that you didn’t review and comment on the actions that zuckerberg’s lawyers took to screw Ed out of his shares. And how he thought they were his lawyers too; I’d be really interested to see what an attorney thinks of what they did
Clearly unethical.
That scene where Zuckerberg talks to the second year associate at the end is my favorite! "It doesn't matter. I asked the question, now they're thinking about it." Pure gold!
13:34 the movie star is Natalie Portman. She was interviewed by the author of the book that inspired the film. She was a senior on campus when Facebook was founded
Not an objection, just a note for the record. The description you've given about court reporters is accurate. Although in the movie, from the way they were stroking the keys, I could tell they were not real court reporters. And I've never seen a court reporter put their steno machine on top of a table. It's usually on a tripod about waist level to the reporter. Typing with arms and hands up that high, as depicted in the movie, would cause great muscle strain to the arms and back. I'm guessing the reason the steno machines were on the table must have been so it would be visible on camera.
they’re called “actors”.
@@cerebrumexcrement. Thank you for that clarification
@@gjb520 I love you
I loved to see her waving her hands at the steno machine and watching words appear on the laptop screen. In general, when using computers, movies are very often not overly accurate.
People hit a button, mash a couple of keys and within about 2 seconds the computer is fully activated, a program is opened and the screen is filled with several windows full of outputs from that program. Very amusing xD
Objection! I very randomly saw you at Howard Law today and fangirled endlessly but no one outside of law school understood my joy
Overruled! That has nothing to do with this video.
@@symbiotegod2069 You mean Overruled: Irrelevant.
@@MasterChiefSamus same thing
Hey, let the fan girl have her fun. :p
@@indigowendigo8165 Overruled! What she has mentioned is completely irrelevant to the topic within the video. As is your response to defend her action. I'll let you both off with a warning. But if either of you go off the subject at hand again. I will place you both in contempt of court.
OBJECTION!!!!!! I do not believe you have legs!!
Ambrose lmfao, maybe he doesn’t wear pants...
I'd be very interested in hearing your take on the legal ramifications of the Theranos and Elizabeth Holmes fraud scandal. How would you approach this case if you were the defense and what potential consequences could there be for all the board members involved with the company?
There was this one scene later on where Eduardo finds out his shares were diluted to almost nothing and he confronts Mark about it. He also tells him to lawyer up because he’s coming back to take over the company. I was wondering how much of that would be possible legally.
Well, the deposition that we see is a result of that lawsuit, and as Rashida Jones' character indicates, if the suit had gone to trial, Zuck could have lost and yes, Eduardo could have basically gotten the whole company. Obviously, Eduardo was perfectly happy to just take an unknown settlement but he could have declined and taken it to trial if he wanted, but at a certain point it's just not worth the risk for either side
None of it
I would love for you to analyze the To Kill a Mockingbird trial!
YES!
It's on the list!
Objection: There is a Supreme Court case that pertains to addressing a person by their first name. In Hamilton v. Alabama, the court ruled that a African-American witness is entitled to be address using a honorific (Miss/Mrs./Mr.) if white witnesses are.
Agreed but when they request their client be called mr. But refer to zukerberg as mark. Kind of negates the request as being " fair".
Coming from the legal eagal law firm : we'll allow it
OBJECTION: Do the Office episode with the deposition for Jan's firing. Thanks. You rock!
I thought of the exact same thing when I was watching this!! Glad someone else thinks this too haha :D
You two should get married
You three should get married
You four should get married
You five should get married
In film school we learned that currier is used because every letter takes up the same amount of space on the page, meaning that every page contains the same number of characters. They've clocked it and each page equals 1 minute of screen time so if you have a 90 page script it will be a 90 minute movie.
OBJECTION! You did not call the twins the “Winkelvi”.
I think they'd actually be the Winklevoi.
The reason that courier is often used is because it is a public domain font due to it never being trademarked by its creator, IBM. It is monospaced and installed on virtually every operating system, so when GUI's were not as common on computers it was important to have usable font. This made it very useful in the past, but today it is still used because nobody can seem to be bothered to change to a more modern font.
I dont think you can trademark fonts. I mean you can, youcan trademark anything, but it being enforcable is another question. The only placewhere such a thing would be enforcable is if the font is used in someones company logo and even then only if that logo can be confused for the trademark holders logo. Trademarks exist to do one thing and one thing only, prevent customers from confusing two products.
And if i trademark a name for a handcreme you can still use that name for anything unrelated to beauty products.
TaliOrion I think the biggest reason it’s used is the monospacing and has a serif. Most modern monospaced fonts now are all sans serif, but serif is said to still be (debatable) easier to read. But yeah, a mix of tradition, cross platform, serif and monospace.
@@rtg5881 He meant copyrighted. Most fonts are copyrighted by their creators.
@@ScottLongwellR
Hm.Got to say it is a bit surprising that the average font would rise to the creative level of being copyrighted (but thats different from place to place, for instance, while germany is not as puritanical as the US german courts dont typicly recognise a copyright for porn) - if theyare, by the way, you dont have "to copyright" it. It is protected with creation, you can file a copyright for the record but all thats for is so you can easier proof that you are indeed the creator.
@@rtg5881 There are three main ways to protect a typeface:
1. Trademark;
2. Copyright;
3. Patent;
In the U.S., typefaces (the design of the letters) don't receive copyright protection, although they do in most other countries.
However, in the US, fonts can be copyrighted as computer files or programs that tell your computer how to display or print the typeface.
IBM invented the Courier typeface and protected it with a design patent and a invention patent (for the means of producing it.)
Howerever, *they neglected to trademark the name of the typeface* and so once the design patent expired other people could sell Courier typefaces and call what they were selling "Courier" typefaces.
This means that a regulation or policy can specify "Courier" typeface and not be locked into a particular vendor for that typeface -- since "Courier" is not a trademarked name and it has passed into general usage like the term "Escalator".
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You're right that under current law copyright attaches upon creation. But if you don't register your copyright within three month of creating the work of art then (under US federal law) people are (legally) free to use your work without having to pay you damages.
The best you can do is register the copyright and then get an injunction against future use and sue for damages (and attorney fees) that accrue after the date you registered the copyright.
13:32 It's Natalie Portman, for those wondering.
Flavio Fernandes Matt Damon and rashida jones too (the woman who plays the junior associate in this movie)
@@ArjonRahman Neither of them was at Harvard in 2004.
Yeah, she was in Star Wars during this time
I bet he doesn't wear pants
and he is reading this comment right now and is saying "And you will never know"
Would you?
@Rippingthosecheeks Hey trousers in UK, pants in US
😆
It is known!
“This is one of the most accurate legal dramas I’ve ever seen in my entire life”
“I give it an A-“
how does one get a perfect score
The bar was pretty low
Ryan Sperling -- Check out his review of "The Rainmaker," which he gave an A+.
By being My Cousin Vinny
Courier is used because it's an "evenly spaced" typeface, every character takes up the same vertical and horizontal space, making the font easy to read and consistent across the page. It also makes it much easier to write notes in the margin. It's used a lot in lit mags to make slush readers lives easier
Yes, but an affidavit doesn't make good viewing.
Maybe it's actually an affidavit, but it was dramatized as if it was a deposition.
The Wire reaction please (Omar testifies against Bird and Clay Davis takes the stand). Season 2 Episode 6 (plus maybe S2 Ep5 - explains part about Omar's clothes) and Season 5 Episode 7 (plus maybe S5 Ep4 - Clay Davis Grand Jury testimony).
yes, finally someone else demanding The Wire
You should include the episode name or season/episode number if you want him to consider it. He may or may not be familiar with the show and your comment is far too vague for someone that hasn't seen it. (I mean this in a constructive way, not trying to be a jerk).
@@omegachaos32 Yeah, you're right, thank you.
That show is scarily true to the reality of what is happening on the streets of Baltimore. The bigger plot points though do have a degree of cinematic license, but nevertheless I feel like since David Simon was a reporter in the area for many years he has a very good understanding of the reality of what is happening in the city. Plus a huge pro-union pro-newspaper bias, like seasons 2 and 5 seem like they are the point of the whole show, with the rest of the seasons being corroborating evidence from his perspective. Regardless it's a great show and I'd love to see it covered.
I said the same, OP. Would love that. Davis' scene is s5e7.
Re: Courier typeface
I imagine the reason stenographers use it is the same reason screenwriters use it. It’s a monospaced font, meaning each character takes up an equal amount of space (as opposed to proportional fonts where smaller letters like “i” take up less space than bigger letters like “w”) and this makes the text layout much more predictable and easier to reference across different platforms.
software engineers use it too for the same reason. it's the default font on most command line terminals and code editors.
That movie star part is about Natalie Portman, who actually studied at Harvard around the same time Zuckerberg did (she started few years before him I believe) and was providing some inside for Fincher and Sorkin for this movie.
Lawyers and Coders can collide together in celebration of how accurate this movie portrays their work!
Businessmen and businesswomen too thanks to the whole Eduardo fiasco
Oh wow, I didn't know Facebook was real! What a surprise!
smh
@@Iukeafk joke.wav
@@Matt_10203 r/woosh
What
It's real in the same sense that a psychosomatic illness is real.
I would love to see more movies set in deposition meetings, _Social Network_ did it so well, especially in how director David Fincher and writer Aaron Sorkin managed to craft an interesting narrative structure to it.
OBJECTION - Do you object to things in a deposition, or just say "my client isn't answering that"?
The movie star was Natalie Portman, if anyone else has wondered.
What
@@allsmightykill Natalie Portman was the movie star Mark Zuckerberg went to school with.
@@GerryBolger thanks
If I'm correct, they couldn't mention it in the film for legal reasons.
@@akmonra She was consulted and gave info on Harvard at her time for the movie to use......which is why they made that line of dialog :-)
OBJECTION : "Intolerable Cruelty", the Coen Brothers movie for a next video. That would be fun and instresting.
Good you havethe kids this is doordash o
It's an AAAAWEEEEESOOOOOME movie!!!! Brilliant and cynical!!!
@@bossmorris1 das nicht trotzdem noch ein bisschen zoophil das nicht der vorgesehene Empfänger sein ist jede natürliche Person ist das denn für eine Rolle spielt sie mir die Rechnung von ihnen erhalten wie ich das Gefühl das zu spät für dich auch nicht viel verändert die ganze Woche zu kommen falls das für sie da war der erste große Freude gemacht eine Rolle spielt sie mir die Rechnung von ihnen erhalten wie ich es anders nicht geht aber nicht haja ich das nicht trotzdem noch nicht einmal eine Mail von Frau macht es ist ein megakolon das nicht der vorgesehene Empfänger sein ist jede natürliche Person ist das denn was die Absicht war doch auch ein bisschen Interesse entwickle kommt ihr mit der hand das nicht trotzdem ein paar Monate alt ich habe ich mich nicht 4
Very funny movie sir, i like it a lot
Sustained.
There is nothing better than one lawyer trying to tell the stenographer to stop typing, and the other lawyer telling the sonographer to keep typing to keep it all on the record. P.S. I was usually the lawyer telling the stenographer to keep typing to keep everything on the record. So often, lawyers want to go off the record to say things that opposing counsel really would want to be on the record ;-)
How much can that be abused? 'Cause I can see myself as a lawyer adding 10 hours to a deposition for no reason other than to be difficult.
That's happened to me. I was reporting a deposition. One counsel told me to go off the record. The other counsel immediately responded by telling me not to go off the record. And then about 5-minute argument ensued with the attorneys going back and forth arguing about whether I should keep typing or not. I kept everything on the record, taking down their argument, but felt so uncomfortable. It was only about 5 minutes, but felt more like a half hour to me.
Tlz Tlsrz haha! Classic! Lawyers always go off the record to say something that they would never dare say on the record. I try never to give them that opportunity. As far as I’m concerned, nothing should ever be “off the record” except settlement discussions.
@@3ngin33r7 If another party behaves in an abusive or harassing manner during a deposition you can try calling the judge to get an order as to certain behavior or questioning, or you can continue the deposition until such time that you can get in front of a judge.
lol damn
Courier may be used in legal documents, as well as screenplays and such, in part just because it was very common in olden times (a few decades ago) but also because it's what's called a "monospaced" font, meaning that each character uses the exact same horizontal space as any other. I'm not entirely sure why this would be useful for legal documents, except perhaps for creating makeshift tables using the space key to separate items in such a way that they align properly. Really, the fact that characters align from one line to the next is the only useful feature that I can think of.
The Social Network, a movie that actually borrowed heavily from a deposition, got the same grade as Lionel Hutz.
It’s called a stenographer machine. We don’t call it typing, we are “writing”. We use different combinations of keys to record syllables and also “briefs” which are abbreviations for standard phrases.
In the scene where the lawyer is deposing her own witness, the testimony (or similar testimony) might actually be from an affidavit, and the filmmakers decided to present it as a deposition for cinematic effect.
In high school a technical college talked to the seniors about jobs they probably didn't know about. Since I was a _total nerd_ that had a computer (mid to late 90's where very different) who typed like 290 GWAM (*edited*)I thought that court reporter really sounded interesting. I waited until after the class was done to ask her about it so I didn't seem like an even bigger nerd, then actually followed through with it. Until I was given a CD that had lessons and a cardboard Stenotype. I couldn't even begin to function with it and couldn't get used to the single stroke methods or phonetic aspects. In all these legal shows/movies I focus on them because of that experience and knowing how hard a skill it actually is.
I imagine it might've been particularly difficult for you specifically because you were so good at typing on a regular keyboard. Switching to something like a DVORAK would also be incredibly challenging because of the muscle memory you developed to be able to type 290 wpm (I looked it up and world record is 216 wpm, but I'll just assume you were misremembering and you typed at a rapid but realistic speed, like 120-150, which is still 3-4x faster than average). Learning a stenographer's keyboard is like relearning how to speak with one of those Steven Hawking voice boxes. Similar outcome (recording information or communicating verbally), but very different methods.
@@osmium6832 As far as all those "quick brown fox" type of programs can be accurate. But yeah, re-reading my message it was GWAM not WPM. When you where done with your assignment 5-10 minutes into the 45 minutes they gave you in typing classes back then they'd just have you screw around with the teaching software. The only thing that could slow you down was when you had to reach for numbers really.
Were not where
I could do single stroke methods because I'm horrible at typing the proper way.
Random person : Legal eagle won't ever do a legally blonde or bee movie video
Me: OBJECTION!
Still waiting for Legally Blonde...
@@sarasamaletdin4574 Same
These transitions in to sponsors at the end of the videos are always good. If someone compliments you on ads, you're doing pretty well. XD
"based on a real person"
I'm glad the lizard people finally have human rights.
6:30 OBJECTION!
Im studying audiovisual comunication
And in script they teached us that we must write in courier or courier new because its an standar
In theory 1 page of script in courier its equal to 1 min in the real world
I suppose that they use courier so you can get an aproximation of the time of the speach
You talking: volume accurate.
Movie clips: volume too low.
Exam grade tune: volume too high!
That scared the shibeebus out of me and it looked like an annoying ad.
True
I literally had to turn on closed captions to understand the movie clips.
Also, if you want another amazing legal movie based on a true story (AKA more background, depositions, etc.), please do one of these for The Insider. It stars Russell Crowe, but some of the real attorneys from the real situation got to be in the movie, and a lot of the deposition scenes were filmed where they happened in real life.
I watched the "what is a photocopier" video and completely recommend it. It made me laugh so hard😂😂🤣
Thank you for making me watch “What is a photocopier”. Amazing
OBJECTION! 2:28 you missed a perfect opportunity to say, "The tip of the Jesse Ice-enberg."
I rest my case.
Music & Whistle msk stfu
@Music & Whistle msk Yea, stfu
@Music & Whistle msk Overruled, stfu.
@Music & Whistle msk Guilty
Objection! Your shirt wrinkles in a weird way.
lmao
Overruled that has nothing to do with the case
Objection! He simply cannot stop his great manly body from trying to get out of that shirt.
crap now i cant unsee it
It's too tight/tailored incorrectly. Hence the whiskering.
I'm liking this before I even watch the video, because I feel this will be awesome! Ever think about collabing with Dr. Mike?
Go tell Dr. Mike!
There are many medical dramas where they are being sued in am episode.
This is a very good idea.
@@LegalEagle He told me to reach out to you! Now what?
@@LegalEagle Dr. Mike is a sensationalist. If you must collaborate with a medical professional, please find someone else! The only one I know of is Dr. Ed Hope of Sick Notes, but he is in the UK, so it's not feasible. Please not Dr. Mike!
@@kayehenry3737 I second this. Dr Mike and Ed had a little dispute and within that, Dr Mike had a very slandering response to Ed whom was polite. It all could be found in the video of 8 to 9 months ago of Ed's.
OBJECTION: Mark Zuckerberg is not that cool.
Evidence: Watch him host Saturday Night Live.
It's a cringe fest.
That's because Mark Zuckerberg is actually a lizard man in real life
I really found this video interesting and some comparison to Canadian law:
1. In Canada (or at least Ontario) we call depositions Examination for Discovery.
2. Opposing parties are allowed to sit in on other party’s discovery but it is pretty rare.
3. After a discovery (or disposition) we don’t go to summary judgment motion… we go to mediation if mandatory and then pretrial and trial (years later).
I really liked this video and found it very interesting to see the differences and similarities!
I love this channel, I just discovered some days ago and I always surprised all the movies and series he already analyzed, it's awesome!
Class was canceled today because of the cold weather but this is a far more entertaining substitute.
I'm in love with you
@@donkeyhobo34 well this escalated quickly
@@CandidLynn marry me?
It's so funny to me that in some countries classes are cancelled. In Finland, classes aren't cancelled even when it's freezing cold outside (-20 Celsius).
@@donkeyhobo34 Im not ready for that kind of commitment, lol
I hope you’ll try Philidelphia (1993)
Having just rewatched this on TCM, I was thinking the same thing.
Can you react to the 1996 Film "The People vs. Larry Flynt"
I love this movie
7:33 Im reminded of the court martial scene in Blackadder goes forth where Baldrick has to testify against captain Blackadder and is told to "deny everything" . He then denies his own name, rank and when the defense lawyer (Percy, his squadmate) says "Come on Baldrick it's me" he replies "no it isn't" .
I can't be the only one who got "Did you know that Ryan Reynolds is also a lawyer?" from the thumbnail
I need a movie about Deadpool going to law school
Looks more like
John Krasinski to me
I've always been mystified by shorthand and stenographers' machines. After the brief discussion here of the modern version that hooks up to a laptop, I'm even more mystified. If the stenographer is typing things out phonetically, I don't get how they make sure the record is accurate. I suppose the software must use like spell-checking on steroids? And do they switch to their normal keyboard if they need to spell something out letter by letter? (And how did that work with the old mechanical systems?) I'd definitely watch a video dedicated to this weird specialized tech.
Also, objection: you didn't show yourself reacting to the "Full Movie". 😜
P.S. Thanks for the recommendation of NYT's "Verbatim: What Is a Photocopier? | Op-Docs" - that was truly hilarious.
I'm not a stenographer but I work in a law firm so take this with a grain of salt. A stenographer doesn't take down what people say in deposition/court exactly as they say it. There's a lot of shorthand, abbreviations, and tricks to ensure everything gets written accurately to be remembered for future use. Also, stenography machines (I believe it's called a stenotype) aren't built like a standard keyboard: a typical machine has fewer letters and is shaped more like piano keys. I hope this is helpful, and I'm open to being corrected if I'm wrong.
Thanks. Yeah, after I posted my comment, I came across some video of a stenographer with a decent view of the keyboard, and I see now that it's what's called a "chording keyboard", where multiple keys need to be pressed simultaneously to generate each piece of text. Perhaps there are chords available that allow them to individually generate letters A-Z when they have to, for parts of testimony that're spelling-critical.
The real question should be why aren't stenokeyboards more widespread? Imagine the content of youtube if everyone used a stenotype?
There was once a time in school where we needed to study a local police report for a cosed case so we would learn how police reports looked like and what the police did. It was elementary school. Fun fact: The entire thing was typed in Courier font.
I've always wondered how the Stenographer could type so fast. How does the machine work exactly?
You put in symbols who are translated to phonetic syllables.
In my civics class I remember we had a mock trial and the main reason why I won it was because I in the pre-trial got into a whole thing about the color and writing on a school bus with the main witness that made his testimony questionable
You should do a “‘the social network’ broke the law” video. Plenty of laws that are broken.
I just wanted to say thank you. I'm going to be finishing my business degree next year(I'll be an accountant). After watching your videos I think I'm going to go to law school in the coming years
Objection! I've got a question about purjury. By the nature of human communications people make mistakes all the time. For instance, my nephew asked how old I was, and I told him 37, but my wife corrected me that I'm actually 38. I had no intention to deceive. If I had made a similar mistake during a deposition, could I be facing purjury? What is the threshold between "mistakes" and "lies"?
The key point of perjury is "willful". Prosecution would have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that your intention was to mislead them when you gave an incorrect age. I suspect that's why you see the "I can't recall" statement used in a lot shows where the person being questioned might be withholding information. It's difficult to prove someone can or can't recall something without being that person unless they've said something previously that indicates they do have the recollection on the specific question. (Side note: I'm not a lawyer)
@@omegachaos32 Yes. Willful + material. If you willfully lie about your age out of vanity, and the lie is not material to any question before the court --then there is no criminal perjury.
So if you even if you purposely say you're 37 when you're really 38 it is unlikely to be perjury.
@@ScottLongwellR Lawyers (I know family law so correct me if I am wrong) will usually tell you to just say i don't know or I can't remember if you are at all not sure about your memory of the event or item in question.
@@joer8854 : You're right. Both on and off the stand, saying "I don't know" is a great answer when you're unsure.
And, especially on the stand,"I don't remember" is much better than giving an answer and being wrong. Because even if it doesn't rise to the level of perjury -- being caught in even an innocent untruth can bring doubt on the rest of the person's testimony.
Sustained
8:47 Automatic subtitles: "... the plaintiff's lawyer is asking questions of sucker" :D
My aunt works as a court stenographer and she used the Courier font as well. Apparently, it has become a sort of standard in stenography. She doesn't know the exact reason of using Courier but she personally likes the font. It makes the record easier to read, she said.
Can you do “The Deposition” episode from The Office next?
Courier font is mono-spaced, every character has the same width, which means every line has the same amount of characters. It looks weird because 'w' and 'm' are the same width as 'i' or 'l', but it has some uses, it is helpful especially in programming (the spaces are as wide as characters so you can have nice hierarchic structure of the code), though I can see how it could be useful to screenwriters too. Not sure how it is useful to stenographers, but I assume they find it handy for similar reasons.
It's probably useful to be able to gauge timing for any exerts that you plan to read out at trial etc as planning out the timing of your presentation is likely to be important especially to make sure that you don't end up losing momentum by running up against the end of a sitting at a critical stage in the testimony etc. I can see this being even more important when planning things like cross examinations especially if they are going to be long and run over multiple sittings, being interrupted by a recess in a key line of questioning on cross is probably going to turn out badly, not only do you lose momentum but you could easily end up tipping your hand to your opponent and then give them time to think over their response to the rest of your line of questioning.
Objection, Zucc wasn't refusing to answer that he answered "yes" to a prior question, he was mocking the use of the phrase "the affirmative" to mean "yes."
"Do you remember answering in the affirmative?" (i.e Do you remember answering yes?)
"The affirmative" (i.e. yes)
He wasn't refusing to answer, nor was he actually saying "yes". He was mocking the attorney for his choice of words.
I've been binge watching these videos and by gosh they're all so entertaining.
IDK if you got a comment about this but:
Courier is beloved of stenographers, screenwriters, and computer programmers because it's what's called a "monospaced" font. Every letter takes up the same space as every other letter. So you will get consistent-width columns, you have a consistent-width page, and in stenography or screenwriting, it will generate a document with a length that is correlated to the amount of time it takes to speak (in screenwriting, one page of a script equals one minute of screen time, so when we talk about a ninety-page script in screenwriting, we're talking about a script we anticipate will turn into a roughly 90-minute movie (actual runtime somewhere around 88-92 minutes, w/e).
(it's used in computer programming because it generates predictable columnar widths, which makes things easier if you're missing a close-parenthesis somewhere)
Thank you so much for the work you've done around the 2020 election, btw, you made a lot of complicated legal issues MUCH simpler to understand!
Objection: As someone with dyslexia and who works in tech, I personally find courier to be easier to read. The zeros have dashes where the letter O does not. The shapes of the capital I and lowercase l are different making it easier to read without error. I assume that is why it is used. Less chance of a mistake being made when revisiting the notes.