well, dialogue doesn't get much better than this...
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- The Social Network (2010) is arguably the best film of the last twenty years, and that's thanks to it's superteam of David Fincher (director), Aaron Sorkin (writer) and Kirk Baxter/Angus Wall (editors). Let's take a look at how they made a movie that is essentially just two hours of people talking seem interesting.
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Sorkin is probably the go-to example for this, but who else comes to mind when you think of directors/writers who make dialogue feel that little bit more exciting???
Quentin Tarantino
Alfred Hitchcock, for that feeling that at any time the characters might snap and reveal something unspoken.
Nolan made me feel this way with Oppenheimer
Nora Ephron
David Mamet (Glengarry Glen Ross)
That bit at the end of Jesse Eisenberg realising he doesn't have anymore dialogue left to do is hilarious
haha i know, he's so shattered
i came here for that comment :D
he sounded so sarcastic hahaha
@@SceneItReviewsAre you the same guy that does SkillUp? You sound literally the exact same.
@@littleoldmanboydude! He absolutely does sound like Ralph (Skill Up) but I don’t think he is
when this movie was coming out in theatres, i kind of rolled my eyes at the concept of a facebook movie. i didn't really see much in the way of previews, but went because i was curious and maybe even going just to hate watch. i ended up loving it so much and saw it multiple times. it was obviously not at all what i thought it was going to be. such a great film!
So true. When it was released I assumed it was a cash grab kinda movie. The focus of the movie would be on how amazing the invention of facebook was and how it was changing lives all over the world.
Then seeing the actual movie; it is more of a court room drama about a central character who is obsessed with his own self image. I was blown away.
I have always hated it. just because it's well-made doesn't mean it deserves to be liked. it's a romanticisation of the birth of one of the worst entities in our present-day cultural landscape. it may be entertaining, well-written, well-directed etc (I've always rated Fincher), but I feel that this movie fed the techbro phenomenon to the detriment of all of us.
@@LeGronk *breaths in* I do not care.
@@bruhlol2744 "breathes".
@@LeGronk oh my mistake
*breathes in* I do not care.
What I like about Sorkin's writing is that listening to it makes my brain jump to a level where its neurons are firing faster and more efficiently than is normally required. It's like the very best sunny day after the tastiest caffeinated beverage where suddenly, as the world is coming at me from all angles, I can handle it and even enjoy it 'cause I'm fully alive and engaged and despite the high sensory input, I'm at ease.
this. omg we are the same person. I have a twin. thank you for existing lmao
@@zeragon7 Lol.
IMHO, The Social Network is Fincher’s best movie. And Garfield realising he’s been fucked over is easily the best scene.
Fax
I'm not sure, for me it's according to mood. _Zodiac_ and _The Game_ are my other go to films.
Curiously all Bay Area settings, likely why I always thought of _Se7ven_ being set in and around San Francisco.
Blud has not seen fight club
@@cadeb2044 I enjoyed _Fight Club,_ but to me it wasn't pure Fincher like the others.
I didn't know of Garfields acting before then, but I never forget his performance.
i've always seen memorability as the foremost hallmark of a good movie. i could have only watched the social network only once and retained a solid memory of the vast majority of its scenes. fincher beautifully encapsulated one of the most intriguing and seminal moments of the information age, and in the process created one of the most rewatchable films i've had the joy of experiencing
How did you get all the angles for the scenes?
You don't want to know how many answers that question could have. Welcome to Hollywood!
probably a circle formation of cameras and some zoom
wtf. hi ross
or dave, more likely
@@omarrouina3778 I assume that he meant "Get access" to all the angles and cut content from the production of the movie
I’ve worked in nightclubs for the past six years and I can promise you that the nightclub scene in the Social Network is the most realistic represent of a club I’ve ever seen. The volume, the lights, the atmosphere, bang on.
this might just be one of the greatest movies of all time. fincher takes a movie with no visual stunts at all besides the rowing, (which tbh isn't really that entertaining) and makes it so interesting and the viewer is so invested in a movie about a couple of law suits and a company starting. andrew and jesse possibly both give their best performances and i love every second of this film.
That Tenet clip exemplifying unintelligible dialogue was hilarious. The fact that the soldier sounded Scottish made it even more likely that American audiences won't understand a single word, even if the sound *was* balanced properly!
Anybody watching this just before they watch The Killer that came out today on Netflix? FINCHER IS BACK! My favorite director of all time. Great video btw. Social Network is a masterpiece, Sorkin + Fincher make a dreamteam!
It's cool how you listed all the subjects they talk about at 8:30, it's an efficient way to structure a dialogue scene
still really gotta see this movie
one of my faves! it's probably worth watching for the soundtrack/score alone :)
The social network is my comfort movie.
Great Vid!
thanks buddy :)
I don’t mean to be a hater but can anyone pick a different scene from this movie to discuss? There’s already very well made, very well edited videos about this movie and they all open with this scene or focus on it for the whole video. The social network is probably in my top 5 movies of all time but it’s tiring to only see this scene and this style of video editing
FRIENDLY TIP!
For amazing funny "hidden gem" dialog, check out the show "Mr In-between", a relatively short show that has the most natural talk I have experienced in any show or film before
"finally willing to listen"
✌️
wow I had no idea that this was how they did it. That is true movie art!
oh man time for another rewatch
this is rad
YESSSS THANK YOU FOR YOUR CHANNEL I LOVE YOUR TASTEDE
fine i'll watch the social network again
amazing breakdown. loved it
My mom is a professor at B.U and she laughed really hard at the line "Because you go to B.U!" ☺️
Did not need to take a shot at Tenet like that 💀
absolutely did the dialogue in that movie sucked major ballss
I didn't really think about how much the editing in a movie does.
i had to write 10 pages about this movie for my film final.
That first clip was the 99th take?!?? Damn...
I got halfway through this incredibly detailed and exquisitely edited video before I realised I don't give a fuck about Jesse Eisenberg
I got half way through this incredibly detailed and exquisitely edited video before I realised I don't give a shit about Jesse Eisenberg
I disagree about the dialogue sound mix -- in the theater I found the opening scene dialogue almost indiscernible. It made it really hard to get into the movie. To be fair, it was an old, historic movie theater, so maybe the sound system wasn't well matched for the mix.
Interesting! To be fair that is some of the contention around a lot of Nolan's movies - he makes them mainly for IMAX theatres and systems, so audiences in "smaller" theatres get punished.
I love this so much
Lol the Tenet burn
La fruta exótica rompiendo as usual
How about Bohemian Rhapsody? Those cuts were _________________?
Wonderful
SkillUp?
so... It's just a multicam shoot?
Sorkin is the best.
SORRYYYYY MY PRADA IS AT THE CLEANERS!
Jesse Eisenberg bugs me so much. Every single role I've seen him do is the exact same character with a different name and story. That's not good acting in my opinion
yep
I'm gonna be honest, I always thought that was Erica's improv of "asshole" and I never quite got it lol I'm even more confused why he wanted it whispered like that. Maybe I'm missing something, but I always felt like the whisper was either forced or a bad take.
oh and for the record, I fucking LOVE the social network.
4:39 lmao
Love your content. It feels like the old DVD days when they would do a documentary on the making of/behind the scenes
haha yeah, i spent a lot of time watching special features as a kid - love all the behind the scenes stuff.
I miss that SO much about DVD's! 😀
The death of home DVD killed the low budget movies, early 2000’s comedies, & prevented studios from taking risks on movies that would eventually become classics & sell well on DVD post-theatre release
Love your profile pic
The dialogue evokes such strong emotions and layers of complexity you just couldn't wrap your head around the moment you begin analyzing the littlest details of what these actors are attempting to get across to their audiences. Pretty sure they're impactful by all means necessary.
I'll always say this about movie making: Good writing, good acting, and good directing will beat a movie with a $100B budget any day of the week.
And if all those elements come together WITH a $100B budget? We get an all time classic, like The Social Network. These studios make it way too complicated
Think you meant an M instead of a B lol
@@MojitoMatt
It's called overexaggeration.
@@j.a.greene3523bro 100 billion for a movie is more than an over exaggeration. Theres only 130 companies in the world worth more than that amount.
@@twent19
...and Disney is one of them 😛
love this analysis. i know directors get final say on the edit, but it’s cool how much coverage fincher does and then TRUSTS the editors to do right by him. yes, he has a distinct style that can guide them; yes, the coverage informs the edit; but still - editing is a lot harder than most people think and includes a lot of nuance that takes true skill to understand and takes talent to flow seamlessly, even with the best director.
Of course! Plus there's 60 takes to choose from for the same shot and from what I've seen Angus Wall do, he cuts bits and pieces of different takes in each angle to bring the best out of the performance. Considering these many cuts, to Fincher's precision is just mind-blowing. This film and Zodiac had the best editing I've seen and the names behind: Angus Wall & Kirk Baxter.
Editors deserve a lot of praise. Having worked on several students films as an editor I can tell it's a very unique skillset that demands a lot of observation & intuition.
That’s why it’s the hidden art
It helps that fincher got his start as an editor, so he films the movie the way he wish it'd be filmed as an editor. Pretty cool of him.
I've always loved how it seems that Sean is trying to but into the argument, either to protect Mark or more likely for his own ego but Eduardo shuts him down every time. The scene is actually about the final end of a friendship, Sean becomes just an accessory
Yuhp... Succession has the same vibes. Just a bunch of people talking, to normal people, half of it is gibberish, yet somehow it all works out to be the best series to come out in the last ten years.
well, and some dic pics and logan gorrilla yelling. and wealth fantasy shots. not quite... normal people.
Best series to come out in the last 10 years is ridiculous when mr robot exist
@barbywithapostit too many to mention. Boar on the floor. Shiv’s mom saying she basically didn’t want them. Logan mocking them. Connor’s wedding as a whole. Roman’s conversation with Maddison at the retreat thing after Logan’s death. Love it.
i had no idea that so many of my favorite movies were written by the same guy. that explains why moneyball and tsn are my comfort movies. ive always loved the way sorkin writes dialogue and ive just never put it together that that is the thing that draws me to those films! great video 🧡
The fact that this movie can stand up now and still be so relevant is impressive. It transcends the subjects in a way that this will be forever watchable. Mark Zuckerberg becoming more public has made him so much easier to dislike that you wish he was actually Jesse Eisenberg. What a weird twist of fate that the character in your bio pic is better than yourself.
This is one of my favorite movies of all time. The cinematic style, the dialogue, the original score. It’s just… so so good
The casting👏👏👏
Academy voters took the day off when they inexplicably left Andrew off the nominations decisions.
He is just as essential to this movie being seen as one of the best movies of its decade as Jesse is.
I think I agree! Looking at the list, only Christian Bale's performance and win for Supporting Actor has lasted over the years, and even that felt like they were finally giving him an award for something. There's absolutely room for Garfield's performance to have been nominated.
That "f@ck you flip-flops" line is one of the greatest in all of movie history.
"you PRETENTIOUS douchebag"
A movie about Facebook left in the hands of just about anyone else but Fincher and Sorkin would have been awful. Instead, it’s brilliant
The West Wing in its entirety is my favorite show and is Sorkin’s definitive masterpiece. Great video!
This is my favourite film of all time but otherwise I'm not really that familiar with Sorkin. I've been deliberating over watching The West Wing and I think the sad news about Matthew Perry means I'm finally going to give it a go.
I tried to watch it and while it has very, very good writing I just simply cannot cope with the 90s american presidential fantasy. After Trump, that kind of character makes little sense to me. Also I'm not from the US so. lol
@@AlexMcMonnies A Possible alternative from Sorkin to watch would be The Newsroom. Only 3 seasons so less of a commitment. Only thing is I don't know how it holds up culturally/politically these days since it came out 10 years ago. But I remember the writing being excellent, and my two favorite characters on that show have strong Jim and Pam vibes.
@@augustosarmentodeoliveira3023 I can see where you're coming from, hang in there, Bartlet does get more gray and complex.
@@shiven513 interesting! I'll try to bounce back
I know this is all about dialogue, but I love seeing how much of a role color grading plays in a final product. As shot, the early bar scenes are so much more brightly lit than what we get in the end.
Sorkin has become a bit of a byword for schmaltz and Capra-esque dialogue in more recent years, but his Oscar was well deserved for The Social Network. (And this film was robbed of Best Picture by the totally-good-but-hardly-best-film-of-the-year King's Speech).
I usually imagine the actors working when I see a movie and wonder about thecamera placement and rehearsal and editing but this doesn't feel like acting, so good
I feel that The Social Network is criminally underrated. I don't like Jesse Eisenberg but Fincher made everyone shine in this movie.
Why don’t you like Jesse Eisenberg?
Who’s underrating it?
its fincher's best in my opinion
My friends who’ve nvr watched it b like Oh it’s just a movie about Facebook. And my response is always, No it isn’t.
In my opinion, Jesse makes the movie work. His rapid fire pace of dialogue is genius at work.
Damn. 13 years have passed but still there are new videos about this film posted every week. One of the finest films I have ever watched in terms of dialogues and also I have re-watched this film the most times.
Huh… I am a pretty big stickler for continuity. So all the mistakes from 3 billion dollar movies like Endgame stick out to me, but was surprised at out smooth this film was at many times. I can’t believe I never realised it was just more than one pov being recorded simultaneously, and editors just switching between the takes. Really cool. Probably insanely expensive and hard to convince companies to do.
What a treat - not every day that RUclips serves up a top-notch channel with a not-yet-massive audience! Great analysis and discussion, look forward to hearing more from you! (Couldn't agree more, this movie and Few Good Men are two of my all-time favorites; it's because I am a sucker for impeccable dialogue and NO ONE does it like Sorkin. I had to laugh at his brief comment you included about improv, you could practically see his disgust at the idea of anyone improvising his script!)
IMO a perfect film. Maybe my favorite film of all time.
This dialogue is so fantastic that I often struggle on an personally deep internal level. I live with ADHD, ASD, and extreme CPTSD, and Sorkin is at a pace that is coming to close to mt own actual dialogue speaking patterns n pace. The reality is too close. Its brilliant
Having rewatched the opening scene probably 50 times editing this, I feel you haha. There’s sooo much going on
I love Aaron Sorkin’s writing on The west wing
I feel like I learned more from this video than I did with my entire Digital Media degree
It probably helps that this is focused in on something very specific, and can be more thorough, whereas a class on something like that has to cover a wider scope
i watched The Social Network on a school movie trip and everyone was laughing at the movie but i really enjoyed it. i rewatched it about 5 years later and it did feel like an "action movie" but you have to pay attention to be able to appreciate this film which i feel like people don't like to do anymore. i don't even mean to be offensive, it's just how it is i think. i can see by what movies and especially TV series are trending that 80%+ of them is stuff i imagine people just play in the background so they can be up do date.
"The Social Network (2010) is arguably the best film of the last twenty years"
No, it isn't...
“Arguably” ~ subjective ~ not objective ~ opinions can’t be wrong ~ let people enjoy what they want
@@SceneItReviews Arguably is usually when a bunch of people say it is the best movie of the last twenty years and some don't. People would say Ocarina of Time is arguably the best game of all-time.
No one has ever said The Social Network is the best movie of the last twenty years except for you and some people who figured out what poorly written expository dialogue is on tiktok.
It’s people liking a movie dude. It’s not that deep.
i honestly thought that the title was a joke and that this video was about how terribly the scenes are shot until 30 seconds in
title: "dialogue doesnt get much better"
video: spends WHOLE ASS time talking about where the cameras are, and whehter or not they move. not a single word about dialogue
Am I the only one who thinks the social network is wildly overrated?
“Snappy” dialogue is kind of overrated. Not that dialogue has to be realistic to be good, but this stuff is so overtly deliberate and unnatural it feels like you’re watching a play. To be clear if you’re going to make a Facebook movie then you probably should use this style, it just makes it less realistic
Honestly, fuck shaky cam.
When I was a teen I said to myself "okay I'll bite" and now that I'm 30 I just see shaky cam and I immediately turn the movie off.
If you want to show me something, you're gonna have to let me see it... preferably not at the cost of a headache.
Films that are dialogue heavy have always been my favorite. I want to know the characters as well as I know myself.
Great content, could you tell where did you find all the BTS images?
Bro fr we don’t need to talk about social network anymore 😂 is that just me?
what's the first song? I do wish youtubers would at least say what songs they use in the description of their videos
I like the emphasis on acting and reacting capturing those moments
the art of the dialogue is very interesting in itself but knowing how to capture the whole experience, with soundtrack, cameras and editing thats art.
One of the best movies ever made
i absolute loved this movie
God this film is just so so good. Just in every way. I adore it.
Not a fan of the final line of the movie
I thoroughly enjoyed this movie and it’s dialogue but the parts about how they wanted it to sound like a real conversation.. it doesn’t. Its not how people talk. It’s too fast and too smart. It’s more like how people wish they sounded. It sounds like a conversation someone took the time to write and prepare. It’s how I sound when I’m in the shower redoing a conversation thats already taken place 😂
I think he meant the overlapping of the dialogue and not the cadence or quips.
Lmao
It’s because Aaron working is a dialogue God
Ironic that the real Zuckerberg could never deliver his own dialogue in this movie
Amazing analysis! Great work
Would anyone be so kind to tell me what is the song playing during 3:53?
That conversation is horrible. Sorkin and Fincher have done a ton of stuff better than this. People that like this movie, and this kind of subject matter, are weird. What's your second favorite movie, Air?
why's it horrible? form an argument
Yea this and The Killer are the worst Fincher movies. I love Panic Room and The Game personally
Awesome video I gotta go watch some more fincher movies
Fantastic. For anyone wondering the editors interview is from the DP/30 interview
Aaron sorkin is my hero
I wish garfield got more work
I'm not a film buff or some kid in college with a passion for screenplays and directing but this was very informative and very entertaining. I love it
thanks for this. i'd love to see you tackle the way characters in Yorgos Lanthimos' movies talk
The "novelty" of two actors actually having a conversation without having to break down the cameras and lights to reset from one side to the other just makes me want to say... that's what actors do on stage in theater. Show after show, multiple times a week. Can more movies shoot like this please? Actors making eye contact and playing off of each other isn't "new" or "revolutionary". It should be the norm. Thank you David Fincher and Aaron Sorkin for using it in many of your films.
i watch this film every year and I just can't get enough. the war of words might be my favourite conflict in a film, over the most boombastic action sequences. Getting harder to come by these days ;)
god i fucking love this movie
I don't know why, but I don't really like the Social Network. Maybe it's all about Jesse Eisenberg's acting who always mumbles, or dialog which sound pretentious and unnatural to me, as if these were not real people talking, but just a brilliant screenwriter trying to complicate spoken language. Story itself pretty interesting, but after the leaks about Cambridge Analytica, genocide in Myanmar, and other dark pages this film is just soo naive
this was the best video i've watched this week, very happy it popped into my recommendations! my favorite movie of all time, subscribed to your channel immediately after i finished it. thank you for this :)
Great great video