I couldn’t disagree more, historically, coaches who wins 7gms with bad QB play are usually good, I can’t believe that Jets team won 7gms!? They were AWFUL..I would get him a real QB and stick with him, the Jets front office has obviously failed him, Brou was right…
@@IAmAbundunt How did the Jets front office fail him when he got the job primarily off of Aaron Rodgers wanting him to have the job? He has had to deal with the situation HE put himself in when he accepted the job. Robert Saleh is 18-33 in the regular season as a head coach, a 40 year old Aaron Rodgers isn't going to take them from 7 wins, to superbowl contenders LOL. The jets are a laughable franchise that are being bullied by a 40 year old that might play half the season next year.
@@MmaMadman85 Sad thing is , are all of the fans and hype machines that are ignoring how he had started to decline at the end of his time in GB, and are expecting him to miraculously become who he was before the decline ,at 40 and coming off a torn Achilles and a subpar OLine .
I'm from around KC and am a superfan but I felt that hard. I love redzone, I love following storylines, I hate the chargers but I kinda love them too. Sports are cool. SUE ME
@@COA5T The point isn’t how much more Lamar got. I have nothing more to add to this conversation, you’re a big boy, you can use whatever brain you have to dissect the meaning of my first reply.
@@hemijay7183 Not necessary. You replied to me while misunderstanding the context, when I specifically used the terminology "in the race". If you recall, the MVP discussion was already wrapped up in week 16 across all media platforms. Everyone was saying Lamar had already won it. So by the end of the season, it was exactly as I said. Have a great day.
Brou is right on the money with that boxing analogy... this year, we're definitely going to be seeing more than a few K/Os from Mahomes... it's gonna be a BLAST
Oh Nick, how can you forget the level of competition the Chiefs didn't face last year. The Bengals, The Browns, The Jets, at least three teams with good to great defenses who lost their starting quarterbacks last season. Not to mention how dismantled the Chargers were by injuries to literally all of their best players. The path couldn't have been any clearer to at least make it to the Bowl
funny how nick doesn’t think wins are a qb stat until he wants to point out how mahomes going 14-1 in 2020 means he should have been mvp over 48 TDs 5 INTs aaron rodgers that year
@@sprawlz6466Allen beats up on wildcard teams. Mahomes has the stats against conference championship and super bowl-caliber teams. Difficulty of opponent has to play a pretty big role in the playoffs.
Brou's weird obsession with the Jets is beyond, well, weird. It will be proven by week 10 that Nick is right. The Jets will start 2-5 and he'll get fired.
National Media had stopped talking about Derrick Henry and pretty much called him done when he was on the Titans, now he's in Baltimore and it's all about him lol Titans fans knew he wasn't washed.
Most of the media hasn’t made a big enough deal about the Ravens signing Derrick Henry. That’s why it’s ridiculous notions like Nick that the Ravens got “substantially worse” in reality Derrick Henry if he stiff arms Father Time for a few more years could be one of the biggest FA signings in NFL history
Better than being a fan of patty mcfroggy. 🤣🤣 Dude beat jimmy g and Brock 😂😂 I had fun watching the goat beat the brakes off that scrub in that Super Bowl 🤣🤣
If my life depended on it, it'd be hard to bet against KC when they somehow got better this offseason specifically at WR. They are just the gold standard organization right now with a great QB, elite head coach and best big game DC. The coaching of Andy Reid & Steve Spagnuolo is what gives them an edge over other AFC teams and NFL in general, there is not another coaching staff l'd pick over Reid & Spagnuolo in a big game. If they 3 Peat for ring 4 in 7 years they go down as the most dominant team of all time cause the Patriots 6 is greater than 4 but Brady & Belichick really had 2 different dynasties 10 years apart so the teams were different. This Mahomes, Kelce, Jones, Reid & Spags Chiefs team is just ridiculous
they also lost some defensive talent but having continuity of coaches can really never be understated in terms of a leg up. Same coaches every year while the whole league loses guys nonstop. Its like a cheat code.
I wouldn't buy into too much hype for the WR room tbh. Especially with a Rashee Rice SUS in the cards (spare me the "wait until legal proceedings," there is video of him doing the crime and his lawyer admitted it was him driving) Worried about their RZ offence like last year. Small WRs, aging Kelce and a smaller RB who isn't driving lineman/LBs forward. I think they're going to struggle there again. And obviously the loss of Sneed is huge. Agreed on staff tho, Spags and Reid are both world class.
The Ravens were best team in football last year and the area where they self sabotaged in the playoffs with worse gameplan ever they fixed by adding one of the best players in history of the sport in Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry over Justice Hill is a far more massive upgrade than Marquise Brown over MVS. The Chiefs and the rest of the league is cooked if Lamar/King Henry stay healthy
Can you name a single head coach in the AFC (exclude Pierce, Callahan, and Mayo, as none of them have a full season’s worth of games under their belts as head coaches) whom Robert Saleh is better than? Because I can’t.
Nick is so good (like his father COLIN) at pulling real stats that fit his arguments well but really mean nothing. Like if anyone actually thinks the Chiefs had the hardest path to a Super Bowl in history, they don’t know ball
can you find another team that beat 4 11 or more win teams and also beat almost every team ahead of them in point differential? Please name one team that you think had a harder path.
Ravens are in a tough spot. They would have a ring if Mahomes didn't exist. It's the Jordan effect. Lamar is GREAT but he has to compete with the probable GOAT.🤷
@@khalilabdul-waheed6791 yea idk about that. Lamar has only lost once against the NFC during the regular season but he's like a different person in the playoffs so it's really hard to say
@@khalilabdul-waheed6791 we will see. It took a perfect storm for the Chiefs to win that game. And Lamar got valuable experience as well as the Ravens and from what I see they have corrected their mistakes in bringing in Henry and getting rid of those lineman. And added Wiggins their own speed guy in the secondary which no one mentions
Lamar is not a different person in the playoffs. John Harbaugh is a different coach in the playoffs. Every single year it the same story. They completely abandoned what got them there. Not all on Lamar at all. He can play better but he for sure isn't the reason they lost
@@iReply2Dummies facts but it was a few variables which Ravens knew all year like the o line not being strong and weak against the bigger d lines. And I don’t ever want to see Justice Hill pass pro he just need run a route. But Henry is excellent at pass pro
My favorite takes are where every other team is inherently worse with the passing of time and the chiefs aren't affected by time or personnel changes and only got better. No Nick, they can't lucky charm another superbowl.
? but who did they lose? They still have Andy Reid, they have Spags as defensive coordinator, they looked rough offensively after losing Bienemy as OC the year before but now have an extra year with Nagy so that would make sense things could be better. They had problems at WR last year and brought in two guys who should help. Defensively they lost one corner but overall brought back pretty much everyone else. So it's not every team inherently gets worse but when you can point out that they lost big pieces (like the Ravens DC or the Bills losing their only two good WRs) it would make sense you'd be a little worse. For the Chiefs, it's pretty much just that Kelce is a year older and they already showed last year they could win without him being the best TE in football (and just being very, very good).
Lucky charm when? They've literally won any every way possible. With ever situation possible so what are you saying. Don't be mad that they just know how to win through adversity
Wright and Cowherd's obsession and regular criticisms of Rodgers is starting to become similar to Bayless and Lebron James. The key differences are that while Rodgers is an all-time great, he isn't in the discussion for Goat QB for most people (nor were their Goat expectations when he was young) and is near the 18th hole of his career. Wright and Cowherd need to find better narrative(s) and new arguments. Wright doesn't like Rodgers' arrogance and ego. Wright himself is arrogant and has a huge ego. Fundamentally, when Wright looks at Rodgers, he's looking at himself in the mirror. What is the point?
No, there definitely was goat expectations when he was younger. Regular season he has the resume the issues have been the playoff success. He really needed 3 Superbowl wins to be in that conversation . No one expected Brady to win 7. So if there is a conversation Aaron would need 5 Superbowl wins and probably 2 more MVP's.
@Christopher._M Rodgers had Goat expectations when he was young? Lebron had those expectations in high school. Some believed James could have been the 1st pick in the NBA draft after his junior season of high school had he been eligible. Aaron Rodgers went to a junior college before transferring to Cal because he wasn't recruited by many schools. He was only all-conference his 4th year of college. Aaron was the 24th pick in the draft and then sat behind an aging Farve for 3 seasons. Yes, he won a title and MVP in his 3 year as a starter in 2011, but was he in the Goat or expected to be in the Goat debate after 6 years in the League with that experience and resume? Yes, he was really talented. But, nothing about his high school, college, or pro experience or resume had him in the Goat conversation when he was young. That conversation came in his thirties, and by then, Brady was starting to put that out of reach; playing at an elite level after the mid thirties was uncommon until recently. Also, remember he went from 2015-2020 before he got his 3rd MVP while sitting on 1 ring--playoff success and accolades matter. If you'd said Manning had those expectations when he was young, I would find that argument more persuasive.
Maybe it’s because Rodgers acts narcissistic and arrogant without the winning to back it up lol. He won the super bowl 14 years ago. That doesn’t make him immune to criticism for the rest of his career.
@joshuahartman2555 Yes, Aaron is not immune from criticism despite his accolades. That is not the point. Rodgers hasn't played a full season in two years, yet there is almost at least one segment a week, even during the off-season, about him on both shows. Wright essentially says the same thing about him no matter how the question is fraised. Nick doesn't like Aaron. Ok, that is his perogative, although Wright has no credibility to do so since he has the same issue--the both usually think they are the smartest person in the room. What is the point of repeating that week after week for a player that hasn't played a full game since 2022?
they defiently did not get better it will be very hard for them to be better than last year rbs did not hurt them they were not a derick henry away from winning that game even if they ran the ball 1,000 times in that game they would have lost because patrick is there because he would have ran out the clock and he did
@@Truthteller01 well its true they are in the toughest division in football so they might as well kiss any home field adantage in the playoffs goodbye cause it aint happeining thats gonna go to kc or houston because of their division
@@Hannah-xi8yiyou don't think that the additional points and possessions from running the ball would have had a positive outcome for the ravens? Let's not forget the Raven shut down the Chiefs in the second half.
@@matthewarnold4557 shuttimg down the chiefs in the 2nd half is not enough because the chiefs controlled time of possesion when you dont let the other team have the ball that stops them from scoring the chiefs stopped scoring the chiefs dominating that game so as long as they did not make any mistakes they were not gonna lose chiefs defense is domiant so quit making excuses for the ravens they lost because chiefs are the way better team
@@joshuahartman2555 let’s be honest here… Nick’s takes are actually terrible in all sports. He’s right about the Chiefs because it’s his team. Every other take he has falls flat!
I really don’t understand how Nick Wright doesn’t understand that the Jets won 7 games with literally the worst Qb in the NFL, Aaron Rodgers can be the 15th best QB in the NFL & the Jets can make it to the playoffs, Nick Wright has always sounded like a hater to me when it comes to the Jets and I’m a Giants fan
@MarvyG23 yeah, we lost our qb, running back we didn't replace, and a defensive playcaller Except the defense is always good, we in fact didn't lose our qb, in fact he won mvp, and we got Derrick Henry. Are you okay sir?
And he said substantially worse. He’s absolutely delusional. Nick Wright is one of those media members that vastly underrates the signing of Derrick Henry and 2nd year in new offense for Lamar
@@MarvyG23 They did but honestly with all those losses, an altered gameplan and composure makes them a way more formidable threat than last year. Let's see if they can alter those things.
"Somehow Rodgers won MVP" Mahomes 14 wins 4,700 yards 40 TDs and 6 Ints 66%. Rodgers 13 wins 4,300 53 TDs and 5 ints 70%. Nick and Colin regarding Rodgers the Skip bayless to Lebron
Mahomes didn’t play week 17 that year cause we locked up the bye, Rodgers had to win week 17 to just make the playoffs. Mahomes should’ve won MVP that year, just like JA should’ve won it last year over the half field merchant Lamar feasting off 30 takeaways.
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"Even though I suggested this question... this is a ridiculous question" that's peak nick wright right there if I ever heard it 😂😂😂😂
One of the greatest to do it of all time. U ever get the hail mary in the video game? He did it twice in real life u wildn young g
Seriously though 😂
@@user-gg2lq5jo2s When tf did Nick threw a Hail Mary? hes not good at sports, never was unlike Brou
Just stealing that line from Wildes who suggests stuff all the time but then acts like it’s ridiculous 😂
@@rafaelisslaam1894I think you misunderstood his statement
Ok now “Robby” is just being disrespectful 😂😂😂😂
I’ve been a Robert, a Bob, and, in grammar school, a Bobby. But I’ve never been a Robby.
@@MrRufusRToyotabut have you been a Rob?
@@MrRufusRToyotathat’s wat I’m saying😂😂😂😂
the joe flacco mention was HILARIOUS
Bru's face when he got that Flacco mention thrown back on him and he realized he f'd up. lol
My favorite moments are at the end of an argument when Wildes steps in and tells one of them they blew it lol
Joe Flacco was much better than Zach. He was below average but at least kind of competent. That oline didn’t help him
“ we don’t have a chargers guy on the show, America doesn’t have a chargers guy “ 😭😭😭😭
NICK CALLED HIM ROBERT, BOB, BOBBY AND ROBBY 🤣🤣🤣
Robby killed me tho😂😂😂
Sure thing Nicky!
I love Nick's commitment to utilzing his vocal chords to form ANY sounds OTHER THAN "Robert."
Lmao😂😂😂
Last week with no first things first was brutal. These dudes chemistry is the best.
Robert, Bob, Bobby, Big Robert, Robby Saleh 😂
"Strategically, the Joe Flacco thing was a mistake on your part" 😂😂
This is the best sports show on TV 😂
I think I can speak for all Chief fans, and say that it would be a treat to see a behind the back pass.
Oh yeah 🤣😃😅💯💯💯👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
It would legit be the last thing to cross off on my chiefs bucket list lol well that and the 3peat lol
They absolutely shredded Brou over the Jets lmao
They told the truth. Jets fans are in for a ride - as usual😂😂😂
I couldn’t disagree more, historically, coaches who wins 7gms with bad QB play are usually good, I can’t believe that Jets team won 7gms!? They were AWFUL..I would get him a real QB and stick with him, the Jets front office has obviously failed him, Brou was right…
@@IAmAbundunt How did the Jets front office fail him when he got the job primarily off of Aaron Rodgers wanting him to have the job? He has had to deal with the situation HE put himself in when he accepted the job. Robert Saleh is 18-33 in the regular season as a head coach, a 40 year old Aaron Rodgers isn't going to take them from 7 wins, to superbowl contenders LOL. The jets are a laughable franchise that are being bullied by a 40 year old that might play half the season next year.
@@MmaMadman85 Sad thing is , are all of the fans and hype machines that are ignoring how he had started to decline at the end of his time in GB, and are expecting him to miraculously become who he was before the decline ,at 40 and coming off a torn Achilles and a subpar OLine .
@@MmaMadman85
They failed to add a capable backup and they’re not smart enough to know when a QB is too old, the front office is terrible
“ I love sports🤷🏼♂️”😂😂hilarious
I'm from around KC and am a superfan but I felt that hard. I love redzone, I love following storylines, I hate the chargers but I kinda love them too. Sports are cool. SUE ME
Every offseason: "Josh Allen one of the favorites for MVP"
End of the regular season: Not even in the race anymore.
Factually incorrect, Allen was the only person who received a first place vote for MVP besides Lamar.
@@hemijay7183
1st place - 49 of 50 votes
2nd Place - 1 of 50 votes
That's still being "in the race", huh?
@@COA5T The point isn’t how much more Lamar got. I have nothing more to add to this conversation, you’re a big boy, you can use whatever brain you have to dissect the meaning of my first reply.
@@hemijay7183 Not necessary. You replied to me while misunderstanding the context, when I specifically used the terminology "in the race". If you recall, the MVP discussion was already wrapped up in week 16 across all media platforms. Everyone was saying Lamar had already won it. So by the end of the season, it was exactly as I said. Have a great day.
@@COA5T Please go away and never comment anywhere ever again. While I am still alive at least.
The end of this talking about Joe Flacco is my favorite Nick Wright-Chris Broussard moment ever 😂
Who's coming back to this after the FTF preshow conversation??🤣🤣
Thank god the show is back. And God Bless Football 🫡 🏈
Bro I been binge watching the (NFL THROWBACK) RUclips channel pay couple weeks for football😂😂
💯💯💯👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽😅😃🤣😁😁😄
So glad teams are reporting to camp! We made it, fellas!
Now the intro makes sense 😆😆
Hahaha
Brou is right on the money with that boxing analogy... this year, we're definitely going to be seeing more than a few K/Os from Mahomes... it's gonna be a BLAST
Not possible to overrate Isaac Newton. THE DUDE INVENTED CALCULUS, just for fun.
Before him people were just floating around.
@@RD-zx6pyyou win the internet for today
This Leibniz erasure will not be tolerated
Leibniz*
You can’t invent any form of mathematics 🤣🤣🤣
"everyone is better than Gase" made me LOL
Let's start every show with a chiefs segment 🎉
Good idea!
Yeah 🎉🎉😄😁🤣😃😃😅👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Robert, Rob, Bob, and Bobby Saleh😂😂
This show needs to be on from 12-4 this is what we call entertainment
Bru lost as soon as he mentioned Joe Flacco
Flacco wasn’t that bad
How does this affect Nick’s legacy?
Classic category 1s are always good for the legacy
Nick said wemby should be 2nd pick to scoot Henderson in nba drafy
He has been on point so far about buffalo
@@titvngaming7693no he didnt
@@nathanmulchandani2869 tf u mean he didnt
the last minute was just pure joy
Isaac Newton slander AND a shoutout might be the boldest take possible. Wildes has cemented his status as a national treasure.
Even if Rodgers told them he was not going to be there it doesn't mean it was approved or excused.
Loved that last segment, so funny. Nick got Bru good with the Flacco stuff.
Brou was about to spit out his drink when Nick said “Robby Saleh”🤣🤣🤣🤣
Karen Rodgers and Nat Can’t-hack-it, are a match made for the XFL.
You mean "Nancy Can't-hack-It" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Anyone who changes names trying to be funny and disparaging only say one thing. They never made it past 3rd grade.
@teamtakeover7317 I know you cried while you typed that.
😂
They shouldn't have won last year. If San Francisco doesn't miss the PAT or that punt doesnt.go off that ankle..San Fran. Wins
Oh Nick, how can you forget the level of competition the Chiefs didn't face last year. The Bengals, The Browns, The Jets, at least three teams with good to great defenses who lost their starting quarterbacks last season. Not to mention how dismantled the Chargers were by injuries to literally all of their best players. The path couldn't have been any clearer to at least make it to the Bowl
Nicks right.. as always,,
“Bobby Saleh” took me out man🤣🤣🤣🤣
That was some of the best debating I've seen yet. Until the point you said Joe Flacco. You never say Joe Flacco...
"they stay terrible!" is killing me
cant say it enough...best sports show on television period. need another full hour daily
What a couple of segments!! so glad the shows back
funny how nick doesn’t think wins are a qb stat until he wants to point out how mahomes going 14-1 in 2020 means he should have been mvp over 48 TDs 5 INTs aaron rodgers that year
QB wins don’t matter and are a terrible stat. Anyway, let me bring up Patrick’s win-loss stats in the playoffs every chance I get…
@@brianogrady3185It helps when Mahomes also has the best per-game stats of any QB ever in the playoffs.
@@joshuahartman2555no Allen probably does. But Mahomes is securely top 5
Nick is a clown
@@sprawlz6466Allen beats up on wildcard teams. Mahomes has the stats against conference championship and super bowl-caliber teams. Difficulty of opponent has to play a pretty big role in the playoffs.
Being the best is not good enough because the chiefs know how to beat the best.
Brou's weird obsession with the Jets is beyond, well, weird. It will be proven by week 10 that Nick is right. The Jets will start 2-5 and he'll get fired.
This show would be even better if they’re 5-2
Yelling it louder doesn’t make you right
Rogers still should have been at every second of team practice since he didn't play more than 3 minutes last year
National Media had stopped talking about Derrick Henry and pretty much called him done when he was on the Titans, now he's in Baltimore and it's all about him lol
Titans fans knew he wasn't washed.
Situations matter
Nobody said hes done. He just got hurt and he still had a good season for a player that was hurt. He just played on a bad team.😂
Most of the media hasn’t made a big enough deal about the Ravens signing Derrick Henry. That’s why it’s ridiculous notions like Nick that the Ravens got “substantially worse” in reality Derrick Henry if he stiff arms Father Time for a few more years could be one of the biggest FA signings in NFL history
Only time will tell. Seems a change of scene could work here
A 30 year old running back isn’t changing the outcome of a team, this isn’t fantasy football.
Dropping hot Isaac Newton takes….pun intended. 😂😂
Imagine being an Aaron Rodgers fan in 2024 😂😂😂
Better than being a fan of patty mcfroggy. 🤣🤣
Dude beat jimmy g and Brock 😂😂
I had fun watching the goat beat the brakes off that scrub in that Super Bowl 🤣🤣
@@Heatpad.Murray1he’s considered the GOAT behind Brady by most so your very alone in your ridiculous statement
@Heatpad.Murray1
In 2023 Rodgers lasted as long as a virgin on his wedding night.
@@alexanderdumas-that is simply not true he has 4 more super bowls to win first
No thanks you he's a trash person. All about himself and conspiracy b.s.
Robbie Bob Bobby 😂😂😂😂
If my life depended on it, it'd be hard to bet against KC when they somehow got better this offseason specifically at WR. They are just the gold standard organization right now with a great QB, elite head coach and best big game DC. The coaching of Andy Reid & Steve Spagnuolo is what gives them an edge over other AFC teams and NFL in general, there is not another coaching staff l'd pick over Reid & Spagnuolo in a big game. If they 3 Peat for ring 4 in 7 years they go down as the most dominant team of all time cause the Patriots 6 is greater than 4 but Brady & Belichick really had 2 different dynasties 10 years apart so the teams were different. This Mahomes, Kelce, Jones, Reid & Spags Chiefs team is just ridiculous
they also lost some defensive talent but having continuity of coaches can really never be understated in terms of a leg up. Same coaches every year while the whole league loses guys nonstop. Its like a cheat code.
They have also been ridiculously lucky.
@@natureredux1957 they have recovered 6-8 fumbles in superbowls since Mahomes has been there. That is pure luck of the bounce.
I wouldn't buy into too much hype for the WR room tbh. Especially with a Rashee Rice SUS in the cards (spare me the "wait until legal proceedings," there is video of him doing the crime and his lawyer admitted it was him driving)
Worried about their RZ offence like last year. Small WRs, aging Kelce and a smaller RB who isn't driving lineman/LBs forward. I think they're going to struggle there again. And obviously the loss of Sneed is huge. Agreed on staff tho, Spags and Reid are both world class.
The Ravens were best team in football last year and the area where they self sabotaged in the playoffs with worse gameplan ever they fixed by adding one of the best players in history of the sport in Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry over Justice Hill is a far more massive upgrade than Marquise Brown over MVS. The Chiefs and the rest of the league is cooked if Lamar/King Henry stay healthy
2:17 let them know Nick
Nick never misses a chance to hate on Allen😂😂🤥
And lets be real: the win against the Bills last season was not the Jets winning, it was the Bills losing.
Can you name a single head coach in the AFC (exclude Pierce, Callahan, and Mayo, as none of them have a full season’s worth of games under their belts as head coaches) whom Robert Saleh is better than? Because I can’t.
Andy Reid
I’m not sure if you could find an NFC coach that’s worse than him.
@@williamallen7984 Dennis Allen and arguably Matt Eberflus.
@@williamallen7984Dennis. Allen.
Aaron Rodgers is the Homelander of the NFL.
You mean goat
Last 8 minutes is about Rodgers, but they still know to put him in front of Mahomes in the title. 😉
Brou is right (he usually is)
I hope Broussard takes over Undisputed.
21:22 Nick and Wildes in sync today, Brou in shambles bringing up Joe Flacco 💀
Brady is the GOAT, but Mahomes is the best qb I’ve ever seen as far as a collection of physical and mental traits.
Nick is so good (like his father COLIN) at pulling real stats that fit his arguments well but really mean nothing. Like if anyone actually thinks the Chiefs had the hardest path to a Super Bowl in history, they don’t know ball
Name a harder path
Name a team and year that had it tougher and explain why since you apparently know football better.
can you find another team that beat 4 11 or more win teams and also beat almost every team ahead of them in point differential? Please name one team that you think had a harder path.
He's at the RNC cause RFK left him of the ticket 😂
Management: “How bright do you want the studio?”
Wildes: “Yes”
How many teams are you going to try to adopt, Wildes?! 😂
The Ravens got everyone fooled. They really think Lamar and the offense going to be worse in their second year in the offense
Ravens are in a tough spot. They would have a ring if Mahomes didn't exist. It's the Jordan effect. Lamar is GREAT but he has to compete with the probable GOAT.🤷
@@khalilabdul-waheed6791 yea idk about that. Lamar has only lost once against the NFC during the regular season but he's like a different person in the playoffs so it's really hard to say
@@khalilabdul-waheed6791 we will see. It took a perfect storm for the Chiefs to win that game.
And Lamar got valuable experience as well as the Ravens and from what I see they have corrected their mistakes in bringing in Henry and getting rid of those lineman. And added Wiggins their own speed guy in the secondary which no one mentions
Lamar is not a different person in the playoffs. John Harbaugh is a different coach in the playoffs. Every single year it the same story. They completely abandoned what got them there. Not all on Lamar at all. He can play better but he for sure isn't the reason they lost
@@iReply2Dummies facts but it was a few variables which Ravens knew all year like the o line not being strong and weak against the bigger d lines.
And I don’t ever want to see Justice Hill pass pro he just need run a route. But Henry is excellent at pass pro
How is Nick upset that Rodgers won MVP in 2020 over Mahomes? He had 48 TDs to just 5 picks???????
You ain’t wrong
4,300 passing yards and a 48/5 td/int Is “somehow” winning the MVP.
4,300 passing yards and a 48/5 td/int Is “somehow” winning the MVP like it was some egregious error.
Nobody is allowed to win anything over Mahomes...
If anything, Brady should've won it
It’s almost football season because I’m almost back to watching first things first everyday lol
When Brou says that was cute 😭
My favorite takes are where every other team is inherently worse with the passing of time and the chiefs aren't affected by time or personnel changes and only got better.
No Nick, they can't lucky charm another superbowl.
Okay bet against them
Already am.
You’re really calling it luck? Man it’s ok. They have medication for delusional disorders
? but who did they lose? They still have Andy Reid, they have Spags as defensive coordinator, they looked rough offensively after losing Bienemy as OC the year before but now have an extra year with Nagy so that would make sense things could be better. They had problems at WR last year and brought in two guys who should help. Defensively they lost one corner but overall brought back pretty much everyone else. So it's not every team inherently gets worse but when you can point out that they lost big pieces (like the Ravens DC or the Bills losing their only two good WRs) it would make sense you'd be a little worse. For the Chiefs, it's pretty much just that Kelce is a year older and they already showed last year they could win without him being the best TE in football (and just being very, very good).
Lucky charm when? They've literally won any every way possible. With ever situation possible so what are you saying. Don't be mad that they just know how to win through adversity
Wright and Cowherd's obsession and regular criticisms of Rodgers is starting to become similar to Bayless and Lebron James. The key differences are that while Rodgers is an all-time great, he isn't in the discussion for Goat QB for most people (nor were their Goat expectations when he was young) and is near the 18th hole of his career. Wright and Cowherd need to find better narrative(s) and new arguments. Wright doesn't like Rodgers' arrogance and ego. Wright himself is arrogant and has a huge ego. Fundamentally, when Wright looks at Rodgers, he's looking at himself in the mirror. What is the point?
No, there definitely was goat expectations when he was younger.
Regular season he has the resume the issues have been the playoff success.
He really needed 3 Superbowl wins to be in that conversation . No one expected Brady to win 7.
So if there is a conversation Aaron would need 5 Superbowl wins and probably 2 more MVP's.
@Christopher._M
Rodgers had Goat expectations when he was young? Lebron had those expectations in high school. Some believed James could have been the 1st pick in the NBA draft after his junior season of high school had he been eligible.
Aaron Rodgers went to a junior college before transferring to Cal because he wasn't recruited by many schools. He was only all-conference his 4th year of college. Aaron was the 24th pick in the draft and then sat behind an aging Farve for 3 seasons. Yes, he won a title and MVP in his 3 year as a starter in 2011, but was he in the Goat or expected to be in the Goat debate after 6 years in the League with that experience and resume? Yes, he was really talented. But, nothing about his high school, college, or pro experience or resume had him in the Goat conversation when he was young. That conversation came in his thirties, and by then, Brady was starting to put that out of reach; playing at an elite level after the mid thirties was uncommon until recently. Also, remember he went from 2015-2020 before he got his 3rd MVP while sitting on 1 ring--playoff success and accolades matter. If you'd said Manning had those expectations when he was young, I would find that argument more persuasive.
Maybe it’s because Rodgers acts narcissistic and arrogant without the winning to back it up lol. He won the super bowl 14 years ago. That doesn’t make him immune to criticism for the rest of his career.
@joshuahartman2555
Yes, Aaron is not immune from criticism despite his accolades. That is not the point. Rodgers hasn't played a full season in two years, yet there is almost at least one segment a week, even during the off-season, about him on both shows. Wright essentially says the same thing about him no matter how the question is fraised. Nick doesn't like Aaron. Ok, that is his perogative, although Wright has no credibility to do so since he has the same issue--the both usually think they are the smartest person in the room. What is the point of repeating that week after week for a player that hasn't played a full game since 2022?
Oh my brother. Testify!@@chestermallory395
Saying the last year's Chief's had the toughest season in NFL history is CRAZY.
Glad I am not a jets fan RT lmao😂
WILDES and NICK are CLEARLY BIASED against Rodgers, and it's getting a little pathetic to watch guys.
Probably because he’s overrated at this point in his career and lives for being a distraction for his team.
They've been like that. Brou included..
@@austinmcdonald876that's your opinion. His teammates and coaches haven't said that.
Brou isn’t nearly as bad as nick and wildes.
The media will never get off the Ravens and Lamar 😅.
Im a Ravens fan, and I can't really blame them
I love how Nick said “I don’t mean to disrespect him by calling him a different name..anyways…WHY DOES THIS MAN HAVE A JOB??”
Ravens Winning The Superbowl And Lamar Jackson Winning His Third MVP
Mahomes is the best player in team sports and will eventually be considered the consensus goat when it all said and done
No he isn't and no he won't lol
Ravens did not take a major step back in personnel lol if anything they added depth to positions that hurt them in the title game
they defiently did not get better it will be very hard for them to be better than last year rbs did not hurt them they were not a derick henry away from winning that game even if they ran the ball 1,000 times in that game they would have lost because patrick is there because he would have ran out the clock and he did
Ssh! Let Nick stay delusional and be surprised. Haha
@@Truthteller01 well its true they are in the toughest division in football so they might as well kiss any home field adantage in the playoffs goodbye cause it aint happeining thats gonna go to kc or houston because of their division
@@Hannah-xi8yiyou don't think that the additional points and possessions from running the ball would have had a positive outcome for the ravens?
Let's not forget the Raven shut down the Chiefs in the second half.
@@matthewarnold4557 shuttimg down the chiefs in the 2nd half is not enough because the chiefs controlled time of possesion when you dont let the other team have the ball that stops them from scoring the chiefs stopped scoring the chiefs dominating that game so as long as they did not make any mistakes they were not gonna lose chiefs defense is domiant so quit making excuses for the ravens they lost because chiefs are the way better team
Once Skip is officially off tv in the fall, FTF will be the prioritized sports debate show on television, as it rightfully should be.
0:25 Wilde’s better really know his calculus
Nick's takes on his Chiefs are actually getting WORSE. Didn't think it could happen...
Were they bad when he correctly said they’d win the last two super bowls?
@@joshuahartman2555 let’s be honest here… Nick’s takes are actually terrible in all sports. He’s right about the Chiefs because it’s his team. Every other take he has falls flat!
@@joshuahartman2555so by your argument the chiefs will win the next 30 Super Bowls just because nick said so
I really don’t understand how Nick Wright doesn’t understand that the Jets won 7 games with literally the worst Qb in the NFL, Aaron Rodgers can be the 15th best QB in the NFL & the Jets can make it to the playoffs, Nick Wright has always sounded like a hater to me when it comes to the Jets and I’m a Giants fan
It’s ironic because it’s literally the exact argument he makes for why the Bears will be better with Caleb Williams.
Because our of the seven wins they got were 5 were against the worst teams in the league
Prediction: Aaron falls running out of the tunnel for the first game, and is out for another 10 weeks.
I’m in need of your prayers and healing vibes. Please keep me in your thoughts as I work towards better health.
Wildes might be the guy to end up on the board lmao😂😂
already over these 4 Chiefs segments a day
Gooooood, gooooooooooood. Let your anger fuel you.
Bye Felicia‼️
The Ravens did not get worse lol
they did
lamar was horrible in the postseason,
there is a lot of doubt in that locker room rn.....
@MarvyG23 yeah, we lost our qb, running back we didn't replace, and a defensive playcaller
Except the defense is always good, we in fact didn't lose our qb, in fact he won mvp, and we got Derrick Henry. Are you okay sir?
And he said substantially worse. He’s absolutely delusional. Nick Wright is one of those media members that vastly underrates the signing of Derrick Henry and 2nd year in new offense for Lamar
@@MarvyG23 They did but honestly with all those losses, an altered gameplan and composure makes them a way more formidable threat than last year. Let's see if they can alter those things.
The Flacco debacle was hilarious
I got ZERO complaints...im a Chiefs fan who CARES LESS bout MVPs.
All I care about?
1. Reg Season Ws.
2. Advancing in AFC Playoffs.
Mahomes is not talented control yourself he really isn’t. He just spoiled by Reid more than purdy is by Shanna Han
You sound double stupid.
Hate to say it but you're right. Dak has had just as good numbers as Pat over the last few years...
Ried has had success with other quarterbacks, has never reached the heights he did with them because mahomes is just a better quarterback.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I see your comments a lot, you hate Mahomes.
I like Nick but his fanboy stuff gets in the way of the analysis, I end up shutting it off. It's annoying and kind of unprofessional
As an eagles fan I will ask you, is he wrong though?
I agree; it's very aggravating
@@hattyhat he is definitely not wrong
You can’t have this take while they are the defending two-time Super Bowl champs
Stop hating if it was your team you would be okay with it 🫵🏾🫵🏾😂😂😂
Nick just lowkey admitted Purdy is elite
"Somehow Rodgers won MVP" Mahomes 14 wins 4,700 yards 40 TDs and 6 Ints 66%. Rodgers 13 wins 4,300 53 TDs and 5 ints 70%. Nick and Colin regarding Rodgers the Skip bayless to Lebron
Mahomes didn’t play week 17 that year cause we locked up the bye, Rodgers had to win week 17 to just make the playoffs. Mahomes should’ve won MVP that year, just like JA should’ve won it last year over the half field merchant Lamar feasting off 30 takeaways.
Ravens don't have derrick henry i guess
How was it the hardest path if by nicks own words “the chiefs have the best defense in the NFL”
Hardest path is talking about the teams they played, not the quality of the Chiefs themselves.
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit huh
Are you implying the chiefs should have played against themselves to have an actuallly hard path?
Plus his doodoo division is still doodoo. I don't know what the heck he's talking about.
@@neetrab yes because the AFC East was such a dominant power house when the patriots ran their divison....
21:41 Nick smoked brew in this argument
Wildes should absolutly be the villain that Mahomes needs in sports media.
Bobby Salah 😂😂😂
“They had Zach freakin’ Wilson.”
Don’t disrespect Seth Rollins like that!
I’m not on the Bengals train, but they do deserve some respect
Saying ‘Isaac Newton is overrated’ is conclusive evidence that Wildes DOES NOT know ball 🗣️🗣️🗣️