I have had the 2023 honda rebel 1100 manual for 2 months, brand new. No wobble until i hit 1000 miles and went over 93 mph. Took it to the dealership, they replaced the front dunlop tire. They said it had a hump in it. Ok.The warranty provided a new dunlop front tire. Took it for a test drive, when i hit 90 mph, the wobble was worse. I found your video. Took a risk on the Metzler cruistecs,they just installed it today. Took it up to 100 mph 5 times. NO WOBBLE. I said all that to say...thankyou bro. Metzler needs to cut you a check. Blessings to you and your family.
@shellyrodrigues9661 both tires are belted bias. You wanna know something crazy, last week, the wobble came back everytime I hit about 87 mph. I dont even know what's going on at this point
It's me, everyone. I am the one who takes his bike to Mexico to ride it. I use most of my free time to film his segments in Mexico. It helps being a dual citizen. You're welcome, Burch.
Yes. My wobble happened between 70-100kph, smoothing out at higher speeds. The problem disappeared when I swapped out the stock Dunlops for Michelin Commander 3's.
Considering I never even get to high enough speeds to worry about the wobble, which I never have had at high speeds. I won't worry about getting new tires till my stock are worn out. Glad you and Gus for sure found a fix though!
Yea once your stock ones are cooked these will be a serious upgrade even if you still won’t be mobbing at high speeds! These are the ones that Gus put 9k miles on and they still looked new 😳
I have had the wobble happen, and it's slightly terrifying when going over bumps at high speeds. I just resigned myself to not needing to go that fast and left it there. If I do change my mind, this will likely be the tires I get. Thanks for your vid and info!
@@randyhorseyI can't say what speed mine started at, because all I did was get on the throttle in sport mode so as I picked up speed...maybe between 70-85 mph it started for me.
Hi i have a Honda Rebel 500 2019 i had the same problem with speed wobble tried all sort of things but when i changed the tyres after 1000 miles still no dreaded wobble. Now Running on Mitchel Commander 2. thanks for the brillant video
Thanks for this video. I have been kind of just dealing with the speed wobbles for the 8k miles i have put on my rebel. I honestly was wondering if it was the winds on the roads in Arizona. Ironically, I just made an appointment to get a service and new tires. The shop im going to only had the metzeler Cruisetechs in stocl , so without doing much looking into the metzelers, that's what I choose. Then I watched this video as soon as you said tires were the solution. I held my breath, hoping you were about to say the cruisetechs. Scared my dog awake when I shooted hell yeah upon your reveal lol. 😅
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Tires are always a good place to start. I thought mine was immune till 2 weeks ago I joined some naked bike, group riders and did some sustained pulls past 178kp/h and that issue occurred to me for the first time. those oscillations are a bit off putting. In this nanny state those speeds get you in jail and automatic loss of license, so is a rare effort. I will keep the factory tires till they are due to be replaced. However this is almost a recall problem. If you look at the center line grove on the front tire it is molded with small offset blocks in the line of the groove, almost designed to wobble at certain harmonics (speed).
I have experienced wobble at low speed, concretely at 43-49 mph / 70-80 km/h. The problem appears only when my hands are not on the handlebars. Have you experienced some similar?
love the videos man. I'm finally getting one soon after waiting over 7 months for a dealership on the west coast to have a manual. I plan on taking it on a round the country trip after i get it set up for it.
@45K miles on the Rebel 1100 DCT I've now been thru 2 sets of Dunlop/Sumitomo OEMs and now on second set of Pirelli Night Dragons. She absolutely loves her Italian shoes. Even got her a new gold chain Friday in addition to a third set of front/rear wheel bearings which I replace every 15K. Had rear ones blow out southbound on I-95 at 70 MPH and suffice to say it required a whole new back end for the bike - covered by Honda so . . . Great bike and not sure what I'm getting next. Can't see selling her or trading her in - just needs a sibling I think. I don't have much speed wobble issue except for perhaps it settling too hard on the back when accelerating at speed on interstate. stiffened suspension couple of times and I think she rides much better.
Wow you’re really putting the miles on!! 🤯 I haven’t even done half that between EVERY vehicle I own in the past 2 years! That’s wild that your rear wheel bearings went out. Did Honda say what could’ve caused it?
@@LifeOfBurch I think all motorcycles need wheel bearings replaced every now and again? It's one of those things they could last a long or not so long time so I change em out every 15K front/rear both and avoid issue altogether. They're relatively cheap parts and can easily be put on when getting tires. IDK specifically what caused it but it could have been an f'd up evening had it been worse or on the front. Honda ended up replacing back wheel, ABS, rear brakes, etc. Definite show stopper and screwed up my weekend plans but thankful it wasn't a real problem so much as a nuisance.
@@RobertGPriceLLC All the drops on camera and off camera were not done by done LOL it's not about if, it's when we'll drop the bike, simple physics LOL Thank you for sharing your experience with the community, i'll be keeping a close eye on the bearings and will replace them soon based on your recommendation!
Thank you for the idea, I really appreciate it and all your videos about the Rebel. 👍 I've just bought one and waiting for some better weather to ride it. Btw. some 20 years ago I had a Honda CB 1300, which had the same problem at the speed about 60 km/h. It also had Dunlop tires from the factory and the wobble almost disappeared when I changed the tires. Greetings from Hungary 🤗
My brand new 2024 rebel 1100 dct has the wobble. It seems to be a little bit better after putting on a windscreen but will still look into it more and see about checking the tire balance and getting new tires.
How good is the suspension? Does it bottom out and hammer your spine when you hit a pot hole? If it does is there an aftermarket shock available that will fix the problem?
Hello, friend. You then recommend putting on both the front and rear Metzeler Cruisetecs. Sorry for asking, but not being a native speaker I have some difficulty ... Do any Metzeler Cruisetecs fit, or are there particular models?
I have been preaching for years that the stock Dunlop D404 found on a lot of bikes as stock absolutely suck. They are the most numb feeling tire I've ever rode on in terms of feedback. They aren't good in the rain. And they feel squirrelly if you try to chuck it in the corners. Should call them dunFLOPs. Most of the good reviews are from people that have never put a different tire on and never tried actual good performing tires. Michelin, pirelli, metzler are all upgrades. I recommend Michelin commander 2 for cruisers. And the road 6 for sport bikes. They feel glued to the road, even in the rain
Hey Burch, listen dude, no judgement here, it's just my opinion being a much older guy and going all the way back to my first motorcycle rides in 1978, it was actually a Moped but I was only 11 and boy I was totally addicted and all through these years I've had quite a few bikes but almost always Naked Roadsters/Street Bikes or Cruisers and I cannot fathom the idea of putting a cell anywhere on my bike ... In fact I miss the days when Cruisers didn't even have the time or a gas gauge, I don't wear a watch (Wild Hogs) ... it's true but I admit that if you get in a jam it's really handy to have a cell in your pocket. I just bought the Rebel 1100 and am picking it up from the dealer in 3 days but I've seen so many vids of all kinds of complaints on the 1100 as opposed to the Rebel 500 which I had for a very short time but it didn't disappoint me it was just too slow in acceleration. What's your take, did I choose poorly? Now I'm worried.
If the factory tires were bias that would explain the high speed wobble. EDIT: I looked up the Dunlop tires and they are American Elite tires which are a bias tire. Bias tires stretch at high speed causing the speed wobble. Buy a radial tire!
@@LifeOfBurch Originally I wasn't sold on the styling of them but its growing on me. And it's kinda ironic that you sold your VFR to get it because my last bike, which I sold in August was an 06 VFR800. I'm definitely going to be keeping up with your channel!
@@hauntingzero damn, great minds think alike! If you liked the VFR I think you’ll love the Rebel 1100. I feel like personally one of the things I loved the most about my VFR was the fact it was a “do anything and have fun in the process” bike. It could do twisties, touring, hopping cafe to cafe, ANYTHING you threw at it. And the Rebel 1100 is the same way. They’re both jack of all trade bikes, just with different styling 🤘🏻
Nice video as always. Is this windscreen color "black" or "smoked"? Just curious cause I'm looking at your link on Amazon and it appears solid black (non see through). Thanks....
Makes sense. I was thinking it was going to be suspension. But I mean... tires are still somewhat part of the whole suspension system. So I guess if the stock ones were a bit softer it makes sense. I'm guessing at speed when the tire gets bumped and then unloaded any instability (like bumps on the road, or those snacking cracks) would be maximised and leading to the wobble, just like in regular soft front suspension issues. Legit of you to acknowledge that it wasn't fully gone. I had seen some forums quoting you about the wobble, and am glad you went a bit more into details here.
You’re exactly right! And yea I figured I had to expand on this more since I KEPT seeing people referencing that old video as the “end all be all” solution. That video was barely getting views anymore, but obviously was still unintentionally misleading people. I’m just glad that it’s finally ACTUALLY fixed and hope that this video helps lead people in the right direction 🤘🏻
Maybe its a quality and balance issue and I am lucky... mines never wobbled. I have done the 100mph max a lot, but I haven't removed to go over it. Replacing my tires soon, and I'll make sure to NOT get these same tires... I won't get lucky twice.
Could it be Honda tested this bike at high speed and they found out the tires were the problem? They probably had a tire contract with the OEM and it would have cost a fortune to replace all the tires they committed to. Much cheaper to put in a Rev Limiter and call it a day and a buck saved. Plus the benefit of saying we don't want our buyers to go faster than 99MPH which should let them get around a 18 wheeler safely. Safety for our customers is our MAIN CONCERN. YEAH RIGHT
Hey Burch, is that the same front cowling as the bagger/touring version of this bike? I’m getting my bagger next month, I love that windscreen. If it is, what’s the link to your windscreen?
Thank you so much for keeping me informed! I have a 2021 Rebel 1100 DCT that is going to need new tires in a few months. I’m going to follow your advice.
Where did you get that headlight fairing on that 1100? I want one. EDIT: I actually found that fairing, its the GAUNTLET FAIRING FOR 2021 - 2023 HONDA REBEL 1100 from Memphis Shades. But now i need to know if a fairing for the 1100 will fit on the Rebel 500. If anyone knows, please let me know.
Hey Burch, Was wondering what fairing you have on, I checked the link in the description but that is definitely not the one in the video, and I checked Honda's website and it isn't theirs either?
Hey Burch! Hope the issue is forever fixed. Same thing happened to my buddy who has a DCT 2023 version. We first thought it could be the fairing and what not since thats the only difference between his bike and mine ('21 DCT). But no it kept happening even without the fairing. A mechanic said the handle bar felt loose after a test ride and he tightened the bolt (the one in the center under the digital gauge). He tightened it a little more than a quarter turn. I thought it might be a useful information to others who might be still experiencing this infamous issue. Ride safe!
love the windscreen you have - tried to follow the link in the description to buy it and it takes me to a different one though :( got a link to the real one?
I have a speed wobble in my 2007 Goldwing, my friend has a speed wobble in his new 21 Goldwing. To supposedly fix my warble I have to change the castle bearing on the tree. To change the bearing is a pain and to pay someone else to do is an arm and a leg. Might as well rebuild the forks while at it at that point. I think it’s a Honda thing. But I don’t know. But I’m here thinking about switching my Goldwing to a Rebel 1100
My wife has a Honda Rebel and the original mounted tire is Dunlop Radial and the wobble is terrible. What “Brand and Type” of tire will I put to remove the terrible wobble? Thank you!
thx for the video, i got those tires wrote down from my buddy at "On the Rebel 11", I'm planning to buy those whenever mines are due for a change :) thx and seeya
OMG...as I mentioned, I purchased mine less than a month ago. Well, I took it on a lil distance ride about an hour or so and on this 2-lane highway, I've had to pass a few trucks and cars in the oncoming lane. In sport mode when I get on it that thing started doing the Humpty Dance on me which forced me to immediately get OFF the throttle causing significant danger ☠️💀 to life, with oncoming traffic approaching and me not passing fast enough since I'm forced to slow down. At first I thought it was something I did, so I moved my phone mount as well. Told the dealership about it and they told me to add stabilizers to the bike, (which I didn't). Tried passing on these two-lane highway roads other times and boom, same Humpty Dance wobble. This scared me so bad that one time I audibly said in my helmet "ooh LaWD, please not like this..., I'll remove my OMWTFYB license frame!! 😳😫🤥!! I'm so happy to know that this manufacture defect is the problem. Honestly, due to the safety risks this poses to riders and other motorists, Honda, Dunlop or someone should make this a manufacture recall and THEY should fund these tires that resolve the issue. You have no idea how thankful I am, that I'm learning it's not just me having this issue that really gave me HUGE concerns about riding and keeping this new bike. I also thought it was because of the stock hard saddle bags or the batwing fairing with the low windshield, but again, it's the tires!!?? WOW-Shamwow-, Great Scott! So with your platform and following, I believe you have the juice to bring this safety issue to Honda because obviously this is not an isolated problem. 🤷🏼👍🏼. Thank you 🙏🏼🤝
I've always had good luck with both Metzelers and Pirellis of course Pirellis have the hardest side wall and is a pain to break the bead so I run Metzelers on my HD's
All tires have a speed rating. Probably honda went with a all around tire that would just qualify for what the bikes speed was capped for. Every time the bike is being enhanced something else left stock will surely be overwhelmed.
@@LifeOfBurch I changed my tires before the start of this season and then realized and subsequently forgot that my bike doesn't feel like it's gonna kill me when I go fast 🤣 because the wobble stopped
@@fourtenlife1731 Tell us what you got! I love my Rebel 500 too, and it came second hand with Metzelers, and I have had no problems so far on the rare occasions of 160km+.
my first bike was a honda shadow spirit 750. i got rid of it real quick due to that issue. that and that i couldn't get over 85 mph with it and truck were passing me on the highway, causing more wobble from the wind drag. i'm thinking about the rebel 1100 as my next bike.
No, it's not the tires either. It's because the rebel is a tubular frame cruiser style bike. End of story. Tubular frames simply have a lot of flex, and that's the underlying cause of the wobblieness at higher speeds. _All_ tubular frame bikes have this "characteristic" - just give any of them a quick jab on one of the handlebars at speed, and you'll see the PIO (Pilot Induced Oscillation). That's why sport bikes have the much stiffer monocoque frames - to reduce (but not entirely eliminate) this flexing at high speeds. There's nothing wrong with the bike, since bikes have been made with tubes since the beginning of time. But they are not designed to go that fast. So the only "right" way to "fix" this shimmy is to simply not go so fast on it that it becomes unstable. There's really no other safe option. You can find the speed where this oscillation enters "negative stability" (stays the same or increases in magnitude) experimentally by testing the amount of it at various speeds. When you find the speed where it just begins to lose "positive stability" (shimmy shows no tendency to remain at the same amplitude or increase), that's your new "Vne" (Velocity Never Exceed) for your bike for the remainder of your two lives. Keep it at or below that speed for your own safety. Sorry to be a bubble-burster on this. Just don't go 100+ on the bike is really the only safe answer....
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My son has the Metzler cruise tec on his idian scout rogue. I've rode his bike several times and I think there the best tire out there. They handle turns really well and feel grippy which I like. I'll be getting then put on my rebel 1100 shortly.
Back to the point in my comment. If it were that simple why didn't Honda, with some of the best engineering talent in the automotive/motorcycle world, would figure it out at the factory before they shipped it.
Hey I was wondering if you could help me. I am wanting to learn to ride. I watch your video from about a yr ago on your friends automstic rebel 1100 bike. I do like the look and such, I was just wondering if you could point me to a cheaper on that would be good for a beginner. I just don't have the knowledge you do so I wanted a second opinion so I don't get something to big because I heard it's better to start small. If you could help that would be amazing! I enjoyed your video!
The stock tires don’t have a super high speed rating, but the wobble started well before approaching the speed rating. The speed rating is higher than the 100mph limit put on the bike from the factory.
Wow ok. Well they may just be bad tires but I don't know what else it could've been. Like i said at least you didn't eat pavement. Keep the videos coming brother.
They’re not rated for super high speeds, but the issue started well before reaching the speed rating of the tire. So not sure if that plays a role or not 🤔
I have had the 2023 honda rebel 1100 manual for 2 months, brand new. No wobble until i hit 1000 miles and went over 93 mph. Took it to the dealership, they replaced the front dunlop tire. They said it had a hump in it. Ok.The warranty provided a new dunlop front tire. Took it for a test drive, when i hit 90 mph, the wobble was worse. I found your video. Took a risk on the Metzler cruistecs,they just installed it today. Took it up to 100 mph 5 times. NO WOBBLE. I said all that to say...thankyou bro. Metzler needs to cut you a check. Blessings to you and your family.
did you use the bias belted or the radial tires
@shellyrodrigues9661 both tires are belted bias. You wanna know something crazy, last week, the wobble came back everytime I hit about 87 mph. I dont even know what's going on at this point
It's me, everyone. I am the one who takes his bike to Mexico to ride it. I use most of my free time to film his segments in Mexico. It helps being a dual citizen. You're welcome, Burch.
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6:05 - Answer: He got new tires.
Thanks
Thanks. I detest all the gibberish and stringing out these videos.
I guessed tires but enjoy his story since he's funny.
Thank you
Thanks! Da real MVP. Such a tallent talking random stuff not getting to the point. Thanks for time saved.
Yes. My wobble happened between 70-100kph, smoothing out at higher speeds. The problem disappeared when I swapped out the stock Dunlops for Michelin Commander 3's.
Considering I never even get to high enough speeds to worry about the wobble, which I never have had at high speeds. I won't worry about getting new tires till my stock are worn out. Glad you and Gus for sure found a fix though!
Yea once your stock ones are cooked these will be a serious upgrade even if you still won’t be mobbing at high speeds! These are the ones that Gus put 9k miles on and they still looked new 😳
I have had the wobble happen, and it's slightly terrifying when going over bumps at high speeds. I just resigned myself to not needing to go that fast and left it there. If I do change my mind, this will likely be the tires I get. Thanks for your vid and info!
I’m about to buy one, at what speeds does this start to happen?
@Randy Dowling 91ish for me
I have just replaced the worn out rear Dunlop tire with the Metzeler cruisetec, and voilá, the wobble does not happen any more.
@@randyhorseyI can't say what speed mine started at, because all I did was get on the throttle in sport mode so as I picked up speed...maybe between 70-85 mph it started for me.
Hi i have a Honda Rebel 500 2019 i had the same problem with speed wobble tried all sort of things but when i changed the tyres after 1000 miles still no dreaded wobble. Now Running on Mitchel Commander 2. thanks for the brillant video
Thanks for this video. I have been kind of just dealing with the speed wobbles for the 8k miles i have put on my rebel. I honestly was wondering if it was the winds on the roads in Arizona. Ironically, I just made an appointment to get a service and new tires. The shop im going to only had the metzeler Cruisetechs in stocl , so without doing much looking into the metzelers, that's what I choose. Then I watched this video as soon as you said tires were the solution. I held my breath, hoping you were about to say the cruisetechs. Scared my dog awake when I shooted hell yeah upon your reveal lol. 😅
Strangers always coming in clutch for high speed runs! 👌
Bro, you should always let people borrow your bike to check out its performance. 🎉
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Tires are always a good place to start. I thought mine was immune till 2 weeks ago I joined some naked bike, group riders and did some sustained pulls past 178kp/h and that issue occurred to me for the first time. those oscillations are a bit off putting. In this nanny state those speeds get you in jail and automatic loss of license, so is a rare effort. I will keep the factory tires till they are due to be replaced. However this is almost a recall problem. If you look at the center line grove on the front tire it is molded with small offset blocks in the line of the groove, almost designed to wobble at certain harmonics (speed).
Runs great and performs fantastically. But it’s lacking the soul of a real cruiser. That’s why I chose the Indian Scout Rogue.
You sound like yammie noob
I have experienced wobble at low speed, concretely at 43-49 mph / 70-80 km/h. The problem appears only when my hands are not on the handlebars. Have you experienced some similar?
love the videos man. I'm finally getting one soon after waiting over 7 months for a dealership on the west coast to have a manual. I plan on taking it on a round the country trip after i get it set up for it.
@45K miles on the Rebel 1100 DCT I've now been thru 2 sets of Dunlop/Sumitomo OEMs and now on second set of Pirelli Night Dragons. She absolutely loves her Italian shoes. Even got her a new gold chain Friday in addition to a third set of front/rear wheel bearings which I replace every 15K. Had rear ones blow out southbound on I-95 at 70 MPH and suffice to say it required a whole new back end for the bike - covered by Honda so . . . Great bike and not sure what I'm getting next. Can't see selling her or trading her in - just needs a sibling I think. I don't have much speed wobble issue except for perhaps it settling too hard on the back when accelerating at speed on interstate. stiffened suspension couple of times and I think she rides much better.
Hey Robert! 45k miles man? WOW! you definitely hold the record! RESPECT!!
Wow you’re really putting the miles on!! 🤯 I haven’t even done half that between EVERY vehicle I own in the past 2 years! That’s wild that your rear wheel bearings went out. Did Honda say what could’ve caused it?
@@LifeOfBurch I think all motorcycles need wheel bearings replaced every now and again? It's one of those things they could last a long or not so long time so I change em out every 15K front/rear both and avoid issue altogether. They're relatively cheap parts and can easily be put on when getting tires. IDK specifically what caused it but it could have been an f'd up evening had it been worse or on the front. Honda ended up replacing back wheel, ABS, rear brakes, etc. Definite show stopper and screwed up my weekend plans but thankful it wasn't a real problem so much as a nuisance.
@@ontherebel11 we're holdin steady at 3 crashes and 7-8 drops - depending on how we count a "drop" LOL . . . Love ur chan BTW
@@RobertGPriceLLC All the drops on camera and off camera were not done by done LOL
it's not about if, it's when we'll drop the bike, simple physics LOL Thank you for sharing your experience with the community, i'll be keeping a close eye on the bearings and will replace them soon based on your recommendation!
Like is said in the post, it feels like a new bike with the Metzeler Cruisetec's! Thanks again to everyone! Helped me make a great decision.🤙
Thank you for the idea, I really appreciate it and all your videos about the Rebel. 👍 I've just bought one and waiting for some better weather to ride it.
Btw. some 20 years ago I had a Honda CB 1300, which had the same problem at the speed about 60 km/h. It also had Dunlop tires from the factory and the wobble almost disappeared when I changed the tires.
Greetings from Hungary 🤗
So good to see the Rebel out and about😏
Only thing missing is you on the back 😏😏😏
I watched Gus’ video before seeing yours so I knew it was the tires :) great vid man!
Picking up an 1100T DCT sometime this week.
All the research I've done all lean towards the Rebel
Vulcan S was a pretty close 2nd
Im psyched!!
My brand new 2024 rebel 1100 dct has the wobble. It seems to be a little bit better after putting on a windscreen but will still look into it more and see about checking the tire balance and getting new tires.
How good is the suspension? Does it bottom out and hammer your spine when you hit a pot hole? If it does is there an aftermarket shock available that will fix the problem?
There is an adjustment on the rear shocks to helps dampen this
Hello, friend. You then recommend putting on both the front and rear Metzeler Cruisetecs. Sorry for asking, but not being a native speaker I have some difficulty ...
Do any Metzeler Cruisetecs fit, or are there particular models?
Hi Burch, I really enjoy your videos. I am planning to pick up a rebel 1100 Base this weekend. How are the Metzelers holding up? Still no wobble?
If new tires don't solve your problem, correct air pressure and oil level in your forks is critical, if your bike is so equipped.
Yeah man, my Cruistecs were expensive on my Sportster, but they changed the bike. Glorious.
I have been preaching for years that the stock Dunlop D404 found on a lot of bikes as stock absolutely suck. They are the most numb feeling tire I've ever rode on in terms of feedback. They aren't good in the rain. And they feel squirrelly if you try to chuck it in the corners. Should call them dunFLOPs. Most of the good reviews are from people that have never put a different tire on and never tried actual good performing tires. Michelin, pirelli, metzler are all upgrades. I recommend Michelin commander 2 for cruisers. And the road 6 for sport bikes. They feel glued to the road, even in the rain
Hey Burch, listen dude, no judgement here, it's just my opinion being a much older guy and going all the way back to my first motorcycle rides in 1978, it was actually a Moped but I was only 11 and boy I was totally addicted and all through these years I've had quite a few bikes but almost always Naked Roadsters/Street Bikes or Cruisers and I cannot fathom the idea of putting a cell anywhere on my bike ... In fact I miss the days when Cruisers didn't even have the time or a gas gauge, I don't wear a watch (Wild Hogs) ... it's true but I admit that if you get in a jam it's really handy to have a cell in your pocket. I just bought the Rebel 1100 and am picking it up from the dealer in 3 days but I've seen so many vids of all kinds of complaints on the 1100 as opposed to the Rebel 500 which I had for a very short time but it didn't disappoint me it was just too slow in acceleration. What's your take, did I choose poorly? Now I'm worried.
I just pick up my Rebel 1100T last week from Salisbury, MD, I live in DC area see you around.
When I replace my front tire with another Dunlop American elite I'll let you know if those tires have the same issue.
Yea definitely keep me posted on that! Definitely be interesting to see 🤔
But why didn't honda find this problem and fix it ? I'm glad you did. Honda decided to just govern it instead of fixing it ...
If the factory tires were bias that would explain the high speed wobble. EDIT: I looked up the Dunlop tires and they are American Elite tires which are a bias tire. Bias tires stretch at high speed causing the speed wobble. Buy a radial tire!
I have been binging your rebel 1100 vids for like the past 2 days! Keep them coming!
Ayyy glad you’ve been digging the content man!! I have TONS more Rebel 1100 videos to come this season! 😎🤘🏻
@@LifeOfBurch Originally I wasn't sold on the styling of them but its growing on me. And it's kinda ironic that you sold your VFR to get it because my last bike, which I sold in August was an 06 VFR800. I'm definitely going to be keeping up with your channel!
@@hauntingzero damn, great minds think alike! If you liked the VFR I think you’ll love the Rebel 1100. I feel like personally one of the things I loved the most about my VFR was the fact it was a “do anything and have fun in the process” bike. It could do twisties, touring, hopping cafe to cafe, ANYTHING you threw at it. And the Rebel 1100 is the same way. They’re both jack of all trade bikes, just with different styling 🤘🏻
Nice video as always. Is this windscreen color "black" or "smoked"? Just curious cause I'm looking at your link on Amazon and it appears solid black (non see through). Thanks....
Makes sense. I was thinking it was going to be suspension. But I mean... tires are still somewhat part of the whole suspension system. So I guess if the stock ones were a bit softer it makes sense. I'm guessing at speed when the tire gets bumped and then unloaded any instability (like bumps on the road, or those snacking cracks) would be maximised and leading to the wobble, just like in regular soft front suspension issues.
Legit of you to acknowledge that it wasn't fully gone. I had seen some forums quoting you about the wobble, and am glad you went a bit more into details here.
You’re exactly right! And yea I figured I had to expand on this more since I KEPT seeing people referencing that old video as the “end all be all” solution. That video was barely getting views anymore, but obviously was still unintentionally misleading people. I’m just glad that it’s finally ACTUALLY fixed and hope that this video helps lead people in the right direction 🤘🏻
I would assume head bearings
Maybe its a quality and balance issue and I am lucky... mines never wobbled. I have done the 100mph max a lot, but I haven't removed to go over it. Replacing my tires soon, and I'll make sure to NOT get these same tires... I won't get lucky twice.
CHARACTER That's what you have, and thank you for the follow-through and sharing the fix.
Could it be Honda tested this bike at high speed and they found out the tires were the problem? They probably had a tire contract with the OEM and it would have cost a fortune to replace all the tires they committed to. Much cheaper to put in a Rev Limiter and call it a day and a buck saved. Plus the benefit of saying we don't want our buyers to go faster than 99MPH which should let them get around a 18 wheeler safely. Safety for our customers is our MAIN CONCERN. YEAH RIGHT
Hey Burch, is that the same front cowling as the bagger/touring version of this bike? I’m getting my bagger next month, I love that windscreen. If it is, what’s the link to your windscreen?
Thank you so much for keeping me informed! I have a 2021 Rebel 1100 DCT that is going to need new tires in a few months. I’m going to follow your advice.
Happy to help! Gus has 12k miles on his Cruisetecs already and they still have TONS of life left! You won’t be disappointed.
Where did you get that headlight fairing on that 1100? I want one.
EDIT: I actually found that fairing, its the GAUNTLET FAIRING FOR 2021 - 2023 HONDA REBEL 1100 from Memphis Shades. But now i need to know if a fairing for the 1100 will fit on the Rebel 500. If anyone knows, please let me know.
Hey Burch, Was wondering what fairing you have on, I checked the link in the description but that is definitely not the one in the video, and I checked Honda's website and it isn't theirs either?
Hows it man!
Question? Where’d you get that windscreen?
Hey Burch! Hope the issue is forever fixed. Same thing happened to my buddy who has a DCT 2023 version. We first thought it could be the fairing and what not since thats the only difference between his bike and mine ('21 DCT). But no it kept happening even without the fairing. A mechanic said the handle bar felt loose after a test ride and he tightened the bolt (the one in the center under the digital gauge). He tightened it a little more than a quarter turn. I thought it might be a useful information to others who might be still experiencing this infamous issue. Ride safe!
Dobrý den, prosím od jakého výrobce máte opěrku záda na zadní straně sedačky?! Předem děkuji 😊
So which tires are the best for the Rebel 1100? Metzler (which ones exactly?) or Michelin Road 6?
did you use the bias belted or radial metezler cruise tech
Can you tell me where you got your fairing? It does not seem to be the one you listed here under "windscreen".
love the windscreen you have - tried to follow the link in the description to buy it and it takes me to a different one though :( got a link to the real one?
This
I have a speed wobble in my 2007 Goldwing, my friend has a speed wobble in his new 21 Goldwing. To supposedly fix my warble I have to change the castle bearing on the tree. To change the bearing is a pain and to pay someone else to do is an arm and a leg. Might as well rebuild the forks while at it at that point. I think it’s a Honda thing. But I don’t know. But I’m here thinking about switching my Goldwing to a Rebel 1100
I wonder if they used balance beads in the Dunlops
My wife has a Honda Rebel and the original mounted tire is Dunlop Radial and the wobble is terrible. What “Brand and Type” of tire will I put to remove the terrible wobble? Thank you!
Metzeler Cruisetec is the way to go!
Has Honda changed the tires in the newer models?
Same Dunlop tires, I've checked yesterday at least in the dealership here in Manila PH
Awesome video. Unfortunately, for me, Honda has not yet brought the Rebel to Brazil. 😂😂
thx for the video, i got those tires wrote down from my buddy at "On the Rebel 11", I'm planning to buy those whenever mines are due for a change :) thx and seeya
These tires are DEFINITELY the way to go whenever you’re due for new ones! They seriously transform the bike! 🙌🏻
I do want a Rebel 1100 dct, and I am learning about all the necessary upgrades needed like the seat
Thanks!
Thanks so much James!! You da man! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
OMG...as I mentioned, I purchased mine less than a month ago. Well, I took it on a lil distance ride about an hour or so and on this 2-lane highway, I've had to pass a few trucks and cars in the oncoming lane. In sport mode when I get on it that thing started doing the Humpty Dance on me which forced me to immediately get OFF the throttle causing significant danger ☠️💀 to life, with oncoming traffic approaching and me not passing fast enough since I'm forced to slow down.
At first I thought it was something I did, so I moved my phone mount as well. Told the dealership about it and they told me to add stabilizers to the bike, (which I didn't). Tried passing on these two-lane highway roads other times and boom, same Humpty Dance wobble. This scared me so bad that one time I audibly said in my helmet "ooh LaWD, please not like this..., I'll remove my OMWTFYB license frame!! 😳😫🤥!!
I'm so happy to know that this manufacture defect is the problem. Honestly, due to the safety risks this poses to riders and other motorists, Honda, Dunlop or someone should make this a manufacture recall and THEY should fund these tires that resolve the issue. You have no idea how thankful I am, that I'm learning it's not just me having this issue that really gave me HUGE concerns about riding and keeping this new bike.
I also thought it was because of the stock hard saddle bags or the batwing fairing with the low windshield, but again, it's the tires!!?? WOW-Shamwow-, Great Scott!
So with your platform and following, I believe you have the juice to bring this safety issue to Honda because obviously this is not an isolated problem. 🤷🏼👍🏼. Thank you 🙏🏼🤝
I've always had good luck with both Metzelers and Pirellis of course Pirellis have the hardest side wall and is a pain to break the bead so I run Metzelers on my HD's
All tires have a speed rating. Probably honda went with a all around tire that would just qualify for what the bikes speed was capped for. Every time the bike is being enhanced something else left stock will surely be overwhelmed.
thinking about getting my first bike not sure which way to go?
That’s crazy … I had speed wobble on my VTX 1300, I changed the tires from dunlop to michelin and NO more wobble.
Hey. I have a rebel 500 and get a speed wobble above 90mph on freeway bends? Any suggestions?
Can’t wait to get my rebel 1100. Just waiting for the dealership to get it in. Only Manual I found and it’s in the Bordeaux red 😎
Is there a way to remove the top speed and reverse limiter yet? Or fix the speed wobbles?
Ha! I knew it wasn't the phone mount! Yes, the new tires make a world of difference.
I wonder if this is still a thing with the 23 1100? My scl500 reads over 95. Ive hit 97 a few times.
I was going to say new tires because I lost the speed wobble on my 500 with new tires too!
Maannn where were you with this info months ago?! 😂😂😂
@@LifeOfBurch I changed my tires before the start of this season and then realized and subsequently forgot that my bike doesn't feel like it's gonna kill me when I go fast 🤣 because the wobble stopped
@@fourtenlife1731 Tell us what you got! I love my Rebel 500 too, and it came second hand with Metzelers, and I have had no problems so far on the rare occasions of 160km+.
Did you go with the same size as the stock tires or did you change that?
Same size as stock 🤘🏻
@@LifeOfBurch thanks bro
The new Rebels olso have the same problem with rabble? What year is yours?
Do bias vs radial ply matter? Honda doesn't seem to specify. More importantly what works better with the cruisetecs
did you get the radial or bias belted tire for the front?
my first bike was a honda shadow spirit 750. i got rid of it real quick due to that issue. that and that i couldn't get over 85 mph with it and truck were passing me on the highway, causing more wobble from the wind drag. i'm thinking about the rebel 1100 as my next bike.
No, it's not the tires either. It's because the rebel is a tubular frame cruiser style bike. End of story. Tubular frames simply have a lot of flex, and that's the underlying cause of the wobblieness at higher speeds. _All_ tubular frame bikes have this "characteristic" - just give any of them a quick jab on one of the handlebars at speed, and you'll see the PIO (Pilot Induced Oscillation). That's why sport bikes have the much stiffer monocoque frames - to reduce (but not entirely eliminate) this flexing at high speeds.
There's nothing wrong with the bike, since bikes have been made with tubes since the beginning of time. But they are not designed to go that fast. So the only "right" way to "fix" this shimmy is to simply not go so fast on it that it becomes unstable. There's really no other safe option. You can find the speed where this oscillation enters "negative stability" (stays the same or increases in magnitude) experimentally by testing the amount of it at various speeds. When you find the speed where it just begins to lose "positive stability" (shimmy shows no tendency to remain at the same amplitude or increase), that's your new "Vne" (Velocity Never Exceed) for your bike for the remainder of your two lives. Keep it at or below that speed for your own safety.
Sorry to be a bubble-burster on this. Just don't go 100+ on the bike is really the only safe answer....
I've extensively studied this post and after much consideration I believe it is 100% true. This is based on the undeniable fact that this is by far the post with the most words. Some of these words even required googling. In case you doubt me, rest assured that I am a bachelor of science.
Interesting bro. Very interesting
My son has the Metzler cruise tec on his idian scout rogue. I've rode his bike several times and I think there the best tire out there. They handle turns really well and feel grippy which I like. I'll be getting then put on my rebel 1100 shortly.
Hello there. New Rebel owner here. I have a 2023 1100 DCT. Looking for advice on shocks. Any resources anyone knows to dial them in? I weigh 245 lbs.
Can you drag it out any longer?
Yes
Great video! Also Red Hot and Blue is amazing!
Their brisket is on point! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
I’m in Montana. I feel like with the wind here you will get a bit of a wobble going that fast
What tire pressure do you have them set "cold", and how high to they go when "hot"?
Factory recommended setting is 33 PSI, or around 2.35 bar
My fav RUclipsr out there ❗️
Ayyy I appreciate you!! 🙌🏻🙏🏻🤘🏻
yes, new tires did the trick for me as well
Glad to hear it! Sounds like they’ve been the culprit for a bunch of people!
The tire tread is backwards on the stock tires. They should be recalled.
Back to the point in my comment. If it were that simple why didn't Honda, with some of the best engineering talent in the automotive/motorcycle world, would figure it out at the factory before they shipped it.
What a nice stranger to help you out like that 👀
Hey I was wondering if you could help me. I am wanting to learn to ride. I watch your video from about a yr ago on your friends automstic rebel 1100 bike. I do like the look and such, I was just wondering if you could point me to a cheaper on that would be good for a beginner. I just don't have the knowledge you do so I wanted a second opinion so I don't get something to big because I heard it's better to start small. If you could help that would be amazing! I enjoyed your video!
HAPPY SUNDAY ITS FINALLY REBEL 1100 CONTENT DAY
LET’S GOOO!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
I had the exact same issue on a 2018 Goldwing. It was the Dunlop tires. I’ll never purchase that brand again.
How did you cut you governor off??
Yo! Please tell me where you got your windscreen. Amazon aint it lol
The stock tires may not be rated for that speed. Either way at least you didn't eat pavement before you figured it out.
The stock tires don’t have a super high speed rating, but the wobble started well before approaching the speed rating. The speed rating is higher than the 100mph limit put on the bike from the factory.
Wow ok. Well they may just be bad tires but I don't know what else it could've been. Like i said at least you didn't eat pavement. Keep the videos coming brother.
When are you getting a Honda ruckus!?
G'day mate I've done 40000 Ks on my Rebel now and I totally agree with you it was the tires
Where did you get the fairing and sissy bar?
Wait...didn't you switch out your tires some months ago because you wore the rear one out for burn-outs for a hip-hop video??
It's possible the stock tires were trying to climb a bit, but I'd still think it's the aerodynamics of the bike that's the main factor 🤔
Not, sure but stock tires might not be rated for high speeds
They’re not rated for super high speeds, but the issue started well before reaching the speed rating of the tire. So not sure if that plays a role or not 🤔
How did you get rid of the speed limiter?
Lol, I just made a comment on another video about your wobble to move your phone. and this video addresses just that issue, thanks
Great video Burch !!! 🤙🏽
Thanks Marvin!! 😬🤘🏻
Is that a Memphis Shades Gauntlet Fairing on your Bike???