Funny that you ask if anyone has ever drilled a 3D Offset! When the original 3D Offset came out, Paul Renteria laid out the ball for me, while JB drilled it! I still have that ball to this day (unusable: weight hole). The shape it had was great, and the remake as well as the 3D Offset Assault are very similar to this. The back end pop isn’t as violent as a Black Widow, but is more in line with the Scandal/S and the Hazmat, making it a really good replacement for the Hazmat. This is not a ball to sleep on!
i had the 1st 3d off set when they redid the og and it was alright but for my 1 hand game not enough ball unless the lanes was burnt / now for 2 hand its a go to ez to use.
A user can only judge a ball and its reaction when the reviewer throws a ball in a style similar to their own. A two hander with a higher rev rate really doesn't tell this one hander with slower ball speed and a lower rev rate much. I would garner just as much information that I could apply to my game watching EJ Tackett. The pro's are entertaining, but very few bowlers in actuality can actually relate to their style.
I would infinitely disagree with you. I considered all of that before going two handed. The reality is that you think that because it’s different than your own. The facts are that everyone has a different PAP period so no one’s reaction is gonna be “similar” but cause they throw similar to you. So you have less ball speed and rev rate? Move everything right and boom there it is. Have less speed and more revs? Live everything left lol all you have to do is figure out what I’m saying in relation to your game and there’s the really not complicated answer lol
@LuisNapoles I bowl in three different leagues and not one uses a two handed style. Now do a majority of kids and a lot of younger players use it. Yes, but not the majority that actually purchases the balls and the balls overall reaction is different with a two handers rev rate compared to a one handers. I know two handers that can make urethane hook out of the building while other speed dominant with a low rev rate use them as spare balls. It's just physics.
@@LuisNapoles It's just a reality, the vast majority of bowlers that purchase bowling balls are one handed and the way a ball reacts for a two hander is physically different than the way it performs for a one hander. The vast majority of bowlers are one-handed; while two-handed bowling has become more popular in recent years, the traditional and most common method is to bowl with one hand only.
@ that’s what I’m saying lol it’s not a reality. It’s not as one sided as you’re claiming. Just cause your leagues don’t have any doesn’t mean that’s the reality all over the country
Nice one, Luis. For the transition, I have a weak asymm solid in the Black Venom. For the medium hybrid, I am looking into getting a Track Stealth Hybrid. Maybe a comparison video?
I have the first remake of the offset. Honestly I never had a very good look with it in my house. I bowled some good games with it other places but I never could use it in my league. It was too unpredictable. If it was fresh it was really over under and if it was burn it was just to much ball so it still ended up hard to control. It made me sad because I really wanted to like it but it just wasnt usable. I even tried polishing it and a few different surfaces. It looked good if the pattern had enough dry on the edge to send it wide and really hook the lane, but our league shot doesnt allow for that. There isnt any miss room to the right. Sadly it mostly sits in the closet, yet here I am wanting to buy another one. I just really want to try out the HK22 stuff.
Hey question u stop comparing the balls is it just not ya thing anymore ? I think u said something awhile back bout reframing from comparing balls 😢 I think that’s wat kinda got me here but over all still enjoy your content !!!
It seems it’s difficult to control this ball. I would like to buy a heavy oil and fresh conditions . Which one I should prefer ? Onyx or physics black out or 3D Assault Love from India 🇮🇳.
Cool video talk tech bowling ball hammer 3d offset assault bowling ball with dot technology drill anywhere technology and hk22c technology in the bowling ball more strikes and spares hitting power at times Luis napoles
Well I used to like your reviews and when you went free agent i was glad, but since you changed to 2 handed they really are of no use to me because the reaction of a ball 2 handed is completely different than what i want to see. Really sorry you changed.
Really sorry I did what’s best for my game? Really sorry that I’m happy again bowling? Really sorry that this is keeping me bowling instead of hanging it up? Got it
Well as someone who has been bowling since 1967, yes I am old 72 now. I stopped bowling for 21 years and just picked it up again at 69 now 3 years into it. My body doesn't work like it did at 40 but I still average 209 and my body hurts the next day. I am not giving up until I can't walk. Don't understand the comment give it up, you either love bowling or you don't. If you don't average 20 pins more 2 handed than 1 handed then this is just an excuse to join a fad. I have watched many of your videos and you have a good style, don't over rev the ball, fairly consistent and can play 5 board or 20 board, that is what is important, you can move around the lane, not just swing. Consistency is much more important than the increased revs you get 2 handed. Like I said if it is not a 20 pin increase, then you just joined a fad. Again yes sorry you switch (1 handed righty until I die )
So I added a lengthy reply and it didn't post, hopefully you can see it, jest is you are too talented to go 2 handed, you don't shoot 857 just being a hack.
@ what does shooting 856 one time on a house shot have anything to do with being a hack? My ball roll is not good one handed. My timing is not good one handed. These aren’t opinions
My point was you can't shoot 856 throwing the ball bad. I have seen your videos and you throw it well. You don't need a ton of revs to be considered throwing the ball well, look at Walter and norm. Be confident in your ability and don't let others influence you to what it takes to score.
okay sounds good see ya later! If you are un subbing because I am two handed that means you never really supported me and I am okay with that! Thanks for the comment and your time here!
Ran 18 out of 20 strikes with this ball yesterday at a demo. Others were also blasting it with this ball. 🔥
Dam! Thats good to hear!
Funny that you ask if anyone has ever drilled a 3D Offset! When the original 3D Offset came out, Paul Renteria laid out the ball for me, while JB drilled it! I still have that ball to this day (unusable: weight hole). The shape it had was great, and the remake as well as the 3D Offset Assault are very similar to this. The back end pop isn’t as violent as a Black Widow, but is more in line with the Scandal/S and the Hazmat, making it a really good replacement for the Hazmat. This is not a ball to sleep on!
Oh wow! thats awesome to hear!
I have the 3D High Rev Offset and I do like it.
Nice!
Just ordered DH Lab spinner off your link!!!
Thanks so much! I really appreciate that!
i had the 1st 3d off set when they redid the og and it was alright but for my 1 hand game not enough ball unless the lanes was burnt / now for 2 hand its a go to ez to use.
A user can only judge a ball and its reaction when the reviewer throws a ball in a style similar to their own. A two hander with a higher rev rate really doesn't tell this one hander with slower ball speed and a lower rev rate much. I would garner just as much information that I could apply to my game watching EJ Tackett. The pro's are entertaining, but very few bowlers in actuality can actually relate to their style.
I would infinitely disagree with you. I considered all of that before going two handed. The reality is that you think that because it’s different than your own. The facts are that everyone has a different PAP period so no one’s reaction is gonna be “similar” but cause they throw similar to you. So you have less ball speed and rev rate? Move everything right and boom there it is. Have less speed and more revs? Live everything left lol all you have to do is figure out what I’m saying in relation to your game and there’s the really not complicated answer lol
@LuisNapoles I bowl in three different leagues and not one uses a two handed style. Now do a majority of kids and a lot of younger players use it. Yes, but not the majority that actually purchases the balls and the balls overall reaction is different with a two handers rev rate compared to a one handers. I know two handers that can make urethane hook out of the building while other speed dominant with a low rev rate use them as spare balls. It's just physics.
@ because your three different leagues doesn’t have any two handers that means that it’s only kids who bowl two handed? Lol
@@LuisNapoles It's just a reality, the vast majority of bowlers that purchase bowling balls are one handed and the way a ball reacts for a two hander is physically different than the way it performs for a one hander. The vast majority of bowlers are one-handed; while two-handed bowling has become more popular in recent years, the traditional and most common method is to bowl with one hand only.
@ that’s what I’m saying lol it’s not a reality. It’s not as one sided as you’re claiming. Just cause your leagues don’t have any doesn’t mean that’s the reality all over the country
Luis, could you compare the effect tour to the 3D offset assault
yes!
I knew Luis was joining Hammer 🔨 staff
I am not on hammer staff LOL
@ they should put you on staff as many balls as you’re selling for them
@ I don’t want to be on staff with anyone. I like being a free agent and reviewing all the brands!
How’s your ball speed looking after the transition to 2 hand?
Feels higher somehow LOL
Need to try the 3D attack . Skid snappy
Nice one, Luis. For the transition, I have a weak asymm solid in the Black Venom. For the medium hybrid, I am looking into getting a Track Stealth Hybrid. Maybe a comparison video?
Stealth Hybrid is going to be cleaner and more angular down lane than the 3D Offset.
Those balls are way to different to do a video on ya know
I have the first remake of the offset. Honestly I never had a very good look with it in my house. I bowled some good games with it other places but I never could use it in my league. It was too unpredictable. If it was fresh it was really over under and if it was burn it was just to much ball so it still ended up hard to control. It made me sad because I really wanted to like it but it just wasnt usable. I even tried polishing it and a few different surfaces. It looked good if the pattern had enough dry on the edge to send it wide and really hook the lane, but our league shot doesnt allow for that. There isnt any miss room to the right. Sadly it mostly sits in the closet, yet here I am wanting to buy another one. I just really want to try out the HK22 stuff.
So what does that 5.5x4.5x4 layout doe for you on an asym?
And is it 2ls?
threw my first 300 with the 3d Offset
Nice!
Which version? OG or remake? (Sorry that's sort of like asking if you are old)
What’s it smell like
Its VERY citrus-y
A clean shave for the new year?
Yea! We shall see how long this lasts LOL
Hey question u stop comparing the balls is it just not ya thing anymore ? I think u said something awhile back bout reframing from comparing balls 😢 I think that’s wat kinda got me here but over all still enjoy your content !!!
Still going to compare some as I get through all these reviews!
SkinnyLou!
Getting there dawg!
Hey next time your on league tell em wait it struck Brooklyn I don't want it kinda ok but I guess I'll take it 😂😂😂😂😂😂
lmao!
It seems it’s difficult to control this ball. I would like to buy a heavy oil and fresh conditions . Which one I should prefer ? Onyx or physics black out or 3D Assault Love from India 🇮🇳.
Of those balls you mentioned physix blackout for sure. IMO
Of those three, the Onyx is what I'd go with.
@ I feel you there. It’s just that motiv is trash
Honestly, all 3 of those options are viable for fresh. Kind of depends on your house, style, and angle you like to start at
Onyx for me
Cool video talk tech bowling ball hammer 3d offset assault bowling ball with dot technology drill anywhere technology and hk22c technology in the bowling ball more strikes and spares hitting power at times Luis napoles
Well I used to like your reviews and when you went free agent i was glad, but since you changed to 2 handed they really are of no use to me because the reaction of a ball 2 handed is completely different than what i want to see. Really sorry you changed.
Really sorry I did what’s best for my game? Really sorry that I’m happy again bowling? Really sorry that this is keeping me bowling instead of hanging it up? Got it
Well as someone who has been bowling since 1967, yes I am old 72 now. I stopped bowling for 21 years and just picked it up again at 69 now 3 years into it. My body doesn't work like it did at 40 but I still average 209 and my body hurts the next day. I am not giving up until I can't walk. Don't understand the comment give it up, you either love bowling or you don't. If you don't average 20 pins more 2 handed than 1 handed then this is just an excuse to join a fad. I have watched many of your videos and you have a good style, don't over rev the ball, fairly consistent and can play 5 board or 20 board, that is what is important, you can move around the lane, not just swing. Consistency is much more important than the increased revs you get 2 handed. Like I said if it is not a 20 pin increase, then you just joined a fad. Again yes sorry you switch (1 handed righty until I die )
So I added a lengthy reply and it didn't post, hopefully you can see it, jest is you are too talented to go 2 handed, you don't shoot 857 just being a hack.
@ what does shooting 856 one time on a house shot have anything to do with being a hack? My ball roll is not good one handed. My timing is not good one handed. These aren’t opinions
My point was you can't shoot 856 throwing the ball bad. I have seen your videos and you throw it well. You don't need a ton of revs to be considered throwing the ball well, look at Walter and norm. Be confident in your ability and don't let others influence you to what it takes to score.
Wish you did reviews being 1 handed. I will unsubscribe. I am out
okay sounds good see ya later! If you are un subbing because I am two handed that means you never really supported me and I am okay with that! Thanks for the comment and your time here!
I cant folow you any more now when you play 2 hand.😢
Bowling is bowling! I needed to do what was best for MY game and that was removing the thumb
@ na go and get coaching by mark baker and you Will dominate the lane whit the thumb 👌👍