It's Neal's band he can do whatever he wants with the band and like all people he has to earn a living so he does everything to keep this band alive and they still fill up stadiums and the band sounds awesome!
@@mickb44 that's not why he left permanently. I had hip surgery and then went back to work. It didn't affect his singing and 'dancing', genius. And you consider yourself an adult? Sheesh.
Steve Perry deserves every nickel on the songs he wrote & sung as a member of Journey. IMO, I don’t think there would be a Journey today if it were not for him.
He gets royalties every time Journey or anyone plays his songs. Perry wants money from the current tour8ng proceeds even though he doesn’t sing anymore. Which is ridiculous
Perry gets royalties every time Journey plays his music. Nobody disputes his standard royalties, but he is not a band member today, so he does not get tour money proceeds (which he was asking for)
If Perry is still considered legally part of the band. For years Journey as a whole has said that they were band BEFORE Perry, and they will continue to be after. The “trip up” IS though (I think anyway), if they considered themselves to be a band BEFORE Perry why then is it that really all that they play in a live show is music from the time that Perry was in the band? Maybe I’m wrong but I feel like joining the original Santana lineup as a teen really boosted Schonn’s ego. 🤷🏼♂️
Perry deserves money for his songwriting, singing and performances. He gave the band a brand and sound. Since he's left they have tried to duplicate him with sound alikes, but there'll never be another Perry
My point exactly. If Neil Schon doesn't think Steve was that great then why doesn't he try to hire a new lead singer who has his own unique sound instead of just looking for a lead singer who can sound as close as possible to Steve? Even he must be aware that before Steve the band was going nowhere and it wasn't until Steve became the lead singer that the band became a rock and roll legend. Without Steve Perry people today would be asking "Neil who?"!
His voice made journeys songs sell , He definitely needs to be paid . If that’s the case Neal Schon shouldn’t get a dime from his years with The Santana Band !
No, they were above average. All of them were great musicians. They had a great fan base before Steve joined. The thing is, Steve caused them to become more than just a great band, but an international, household name brand that completely blew the roof off the house in a way the previous incarnation could not do. Schon is more controlled by his WIFE/MANAGER than Ozzy Osbourne is. All this strife Schon is spewing is really coming from his wife. Schon is. 🐈🐱 whipped.
@@christinebailey9935 How many records did perry had pre journey? None. How many records Journey had before la perry? 3 Uh...hello, are you still there?
Steve Perry was and always will be the voice of Journey they have had a great run with other vocalists but Steve Perry carried that band to unmeasurable heights no one was as successful a singer for Journey then Steve Perry . Don't forget that Journey . Let's be reasonable .
Schon wouldn't have plastic surgery funds if it wasn't for Steve Perry. It's unfortunate to see what a sad Journey cover band Neal has created, talk about an enormous ego.
WRONG..... I know both of them and Schon carried that band.
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@@csnide6702 I don't give a f if u do know both if he was in the band he deserves a share. What kind of dck move is that? And try to replace perry, it would not be the same AT ALL
@@csnide6702 - first, yes, neil is one of my 3 favorite guitarists of all time. however, if what yoiu're saying were true, the band would never have needed to find a lead singer. in reality, journey back in '77, was going to be dropped from their label UNLESS they found a good lead singer. it was perry who saved that band from being sent to the dustbin and who carried them to the big success.
How can somebody even think for one moment?That Steve Perry wouldn't deserve any money from journey.I mean, really?He was the face of journey with that voice.And it's just unbelievable the greed that people have
Perrys high notes are not easy to hit, he got a nice vibrato and Schon got a nice tone too but there are a lot of guitar players that had his tone and could replace him!
Neil must not have enough money to keep buying his latest GF material gifts. Maybe it is and will be her time to cling to another ego. What hollow lives wasting oxygen.
Journey without Steve. Chicago without Peter Cetera. Styx without Dennis DeYoung. Foreigner without Lou Gramm. All these bands did not have hits after their lead singers left. 😖
Schon was a nobody hired gun guitarist with Carlos Santana and didn't make bank and years later he takes it out on Perry, the big difference is Perry wrote much of the lyrics to the very songs that put Journey on the map...He very well deserves his royalties...That's how the music business works....
I would hardly call neal schon a nobody. As a kid he was recruited by Santana at age 14. He was a prodigy. At 17, Eric Clapton asked him to join Derek and the Domino's. He is considered one of the best guitarists of all time. Steve Perry was a huge part of Journey's success, but Neal would have gotten a great gig regardless of Steve joining the bans.
@@ericwaldron3599and many years later Schon nearly bankrupts the band with his and his wife’s frivolous credit card spending. No wonder he needs the Steve Perry royalty payout
@timo4040 My response to the comment was that Neal Schon is not a musical nobody, he is an incredible guitarist according to anyone who is great including Eric Clapton and Prince. His spending habits were not up for debate. He has been irresponsible, but Journey is a highly lucrative brand. Their music, merch and concerts generateva lot of money every year. They are far from bankrupt. A lot of that is from touring which Perry gets a piece of with no effort. Schon and crew do all the physical heavy lifting there. I think he has done OK by Perry.
The partnership of Steve Perry and Jon Cain was Journey. They took the band to heights they would never have reached had it not been for Perry/Cain song writing. Journey was a boring, faceless stoner band before Perry transformed them. The addition of Cain was icing on the cake. Some of the greatest rock music ever created.
Neil is a founding member of Journey, but the only reason people are still going to see them is because of the songs Steve Perry sang. If they were not allowed to play the songs Perry and Caine wrote, Neil wouldn’t be able to sell out a club.
There is a reason every subsequent singer for Journey after Steve has tried their darndest to sound like Steve. Journey is not Journey without that voice.
Doesn’t matter….he gets his publishing etc….he’s not entitled to anything else. Another thing, he’s a Primadonna who says “ he never felt accepted????” He literally took over and caused the jettison of Herbert WHO FOUNDED THE WHOLE THING, SMITH , VALORY AND ROLLIE!!!! If you knew people who were there you would see…..I know A BUNCH OF THEM!! He’s a nice guy and a fantastic singer/songwriter but impossible to work with long term.
@@jefflanham1080 By long term you mean like over 20 years? It doesn’t sound like uber spendaholic prima donna Schon is much easier to get a long with. Even Ariel ( AI Steve Perry) has had enough. You brought up all these ole founding members, but without Perry and Cain the entirety of those members existence ( just like pre Buckingham Nicks Fleetwood Mac) would have been very interesting story of “almost rans”. Nobody on earth was buying their junk music before Perry. He made them rich and gave them the careers they still have today. Dont stop believin’ that.
@@scrwwea_nhl_hut5288 nobody doubt’s the chemistry they had …but like Rollie he split. End of story. He can’t act like the victim…and in successful acts this is the norm.
@@scrwwea_nhl_hut5288 also, as great as he was Journey had the deal and without that vehicle we may have never heard the name Steve Perry. Personally I wish Rollie would have stayed because that a huge part of that great sound they had when Perry joined. Much like Van Halen it became two separate bands. The second with Cain very successful but they also became more pop and lost a certain edge…
Agreed. I never bought any Journey music, but wow, there’s only one Journey I remember. Steve Perry made journey. I had no idea who the other members were and still don’t.
Steve Perry is one of the most talented singers that has ever sung rock, he MADE journey. Meanwhile Neil Schon continues to make a fool out of himself with his perms and his silly wife, his plastic surgeries, and his fights with Cain over money, WHILE he and Cain are sharing a stage every night. Neal schon has shown he is just not a good guy, and he really should stop his constant smack talking, it makes him look terrible
I think Steve Perry is going to look at Journey now and they get what Neal deserves. Neal Schon knows that Steve Perry was a great singer and he and the band was making money hand over fist.Now they struggle to get by.Neal likes to spend like the good old days.Times has changed and money don't go far no more. That is just like people making comments about Steve is always in that green jacket.Steve seems to me that he is more conscience about his spending. I Love Steve Perry always.🥰😛💋💜🦋
@@janicealexander4432 They're still selling out their venues. Except now they're a notch higher than a cover band. It would be like Aerosmith continuing without Steven Tyler.
@@edbigtruck But he did have hits without Journey . What have they had without him . And why did Neal think it was so important to get a Perry sound alike . A good karaoke singer really .
@@marioaguileraiii8181 Exactly my point .Schon who has an overrated opinion of himself , can be replaced .They never really replaced Perry . No matter what Neal thinks
Like it or not, without Steve, there’s no Journey. Not taking away from the band but musicianship doesn’t create hits. That iconic voice got them all paid.
When you hear a Journey song the first thing you notice is Steve Perry’s voice that’s my opinion, as great as Schon it’s Perry’s voice on those iconic 80’s songs that made Journey immensely popular
This story is so sad. There is more than enough money to go around, yet these talented, iconic musicians fight with each other. Steve Perry was an amazing addition to Journey.
Neal should be thanking Steve like a grateful MFer for making him and Journey a legend. Without Steve, Journey probably would have disbanded, and not been very famous and/or successful!
Seems like every time I see something about journey, it’s always about Neal Schon, and money! He tried to screw Jonathan Caine out of money, and now Steve Perry! I have a great idea for this band……QUIT!
Perry ASKED to come back after 10 years. The band didn't want him back. So Schon got what he deserved. Perry MADE that band famous. Without him, Journey would've folded long before.
Perry got a great severance package when he left Journey and Neal is bitching about it decades after the fact. Neal is a lousy businessman and he’s trying to cover his expenses because they’re out of control. Several years ago he bought three Lamborghinis in the space of a year. It’s obvious he doesn’t have the resources to afford his lavish lifestyle. His wife is only with him for his money so when that dries up he’s heading for another divorce.
I always wondered why he would sell his main guitars , he used on Infinity and Escape . It all makes sense now . I think it's pretty safe to say Jon Cain is telling the truth with the lawsuit against Neal for the bands finances .
Steve perry made journey more famous n more hits then ant other members his voice made them big n not Neal steves singing will live way longer then Neal n the way he was treated shame on them steve perry will live on n on while Steve will shine Neal will fade into darkness
Steve Perry was the correct formula of rocket fuel to finally launch Journey off the ground and into the Cosmos... His voice is that of an Angel and full of soul and inspiration..... His vocal gifts were so iconic and awesome... As he sang.... you felt moved deeply and a beautiful sound that is healing and full of deep emotion.. As far as the business side goes? Money really began to flow and in huge amounts.... So he is due what should be coming to him. It's sad that Neil cannot understand this dynamic.... He should be Thankful to Steve and find a way to mend the fences and find forgiveness... We all need this to happen so that their Story i remembered as Beautiful and touching... As far as Cover singers? Some were okay... but none of them could match Steve and how he did it.... I only listen to the Music where steve is singing.... I never bought the stuff after Steve left... Same goes for Foreigner except i like Todd Michael Hall of Riot V who can really sing those tunes
Neal and Jon both sold their rights to those songs that Steve helped write. Steve held on to his rights. So who cares about the music and who cares about money?
Steve Perry made journey ,Steve’s unique voice,how can you say he didn’t deserve to be paid,he deserved every bit of gratitude and money he got ,he is truely a talented man.Steve Perry is a legend❤❤
They never really tell the whole story, do they. This is something else from that interview Neal said: QUestion: Do you get tired of it being defined by his [PERRYS] presence or his absence? Neal: Um-no. I think he contributed so much to the sound of the band, obviously, to where those songs are gonna be embedded in everybody’s heads and hearts forever. And I think that we accomplished a lot together.
Yeah I remember that interview. He actually admitted that Steve has such a unique voice that they can really work with him in making so many different song types. Which is why he made the band successful. I'm at least glad neal admitted that.
My God! Journey would never had risen to the level they once were without Steve "The Voice" Perry! He wrote or co-wrote most of the bands greatest hits. He deserves EVERYTHING he can get. They are touring today with Arnel based on their past success.
Serious this is fucking absurd.... Neil is ruining journey. Or the ultimate journey tribute featuring Neil schon.... He's money hungry and honestly journey lately sounds terrible... And the cover bands are sounding better than the actual journey..... Which is ridiculous
This is interesting. First of all, this is the deal( contract) they made when they kicked Steve out of the band in 1998. If Steve had decided to keep singing, Journey without Steve Perry would have been nothing. Most fans would have bought tickets to see Steve and not Journey without Steve Perry. Steve Perry made Journey a success. The record label was going to drop them after 3 albums and the record label wanted a singer to put them on the radio and that's what Steve did for Journey. Plus, he co wrote almost all of the hit songs they continue to play on stage today. Look at the set list! All songs Steve Perry made famous. PLus the replacement singers were/are Steve Perry sound alikes. So, as a fan, I think Steve Perry deserves every penny he receives from the Journey tribute band that is on the road today!
Steve Perry deserves every single penny he gets from this band. Journey would be nothing without him and that is reality. He took it to a level that for 50 years people have been curious about them. Thanks to Steve Perry, people know who Journey is and want to listen to their music because of that voice.💯
Facts. The very first journey song I heard as a kid was from the Tron legacy movie. Separate ways worlds apart. Ever since that day I discovered steve Perry's voice.
@dave3805 Yes you are correct, and I have listened to and loved Journey and Santana since 1972. But Neal Schon has searched the planet for a Steve Perry replica, at one time even found someone with a similar name with Steve Augeri. So Neal himself knows how important Steve was and still is, so he should never complain about the amount of money Steve is still being paid.
And this is why bands with the perfect lineups break up. Look at a band like Loverboy. They are still together, have always been together, no breakups, nothing, because everyone is treated as equals. Journey had their best singer with Steve Perry and the egos of certain members destroyed the cohesion.
Don't know the legalities of it all but I do know this as a teenager from the 80's, if it weren't for Steve Perry as the front man with that voice, that hair, that smile, my friends and I would not have had the T-shirts, albums, or any future merch. Journey without that voice would have been no competition for the other 80s rock bands. They would have been air supply with no air. Unless you tell me Perry was at a Diddy Party, I am always going to be team Journey with Perry.
Not to be disrespectful to Neal Schon (and I think he's a great guitarist and at one time there was a magical chemistry between the boys) but who was Journey before Steve Perry? Who are they now? Cover band? I think Arnel is great but ... Steve Perry put his heart and soul into it - truthfully I think Steve has been short changed. Who's whining- Steve? Neal? - think you both wanted different things, so it seems
@@phillipmarlowe0525 If Journey had not discovered Steve Perry, Journey would have been in the infinite space of universal non-existence, Journey was known after Esteve arrived. 🤣😂😂
Disagree. They would have found someone else or evolved into bigger band anyway. Perry was nothing before Journey. Journey at least has a strong following. Perry sucked then and now.
@@phillipmarlowe0525yeah, right. They were about to get dropped by the record company before Steve Perry joined them. Steve is the reason Journey became so popular. Neal didn’t mind all the money Steve was making him, though. He’s still making money because of Steve. Neal has always been an arrogant, whiny a**. That’s why he couldn’t get along with any of them. He’s still doing the crap and that’s why Jonathan Cain is suing him. Neal thinks he deserves all the money. Steve was smart to leave the group. He got away from all the drama.
There you go, as soon as you mentioned a wife was involved it is clear what the driving force was. Despite the musicians indicating they were the founders it was Perry and his amazing vocals that made the band.
Perry came out on top. He got away from Schon's ego and petty schoolyard bs, while still making huge money off of his years of hard work. This obviously lives rent free in Schon's head.
Schon was in a second-class band before Steve Perry joined. Period. Their success only flourished when Perry joined the band. Whether or not Perry penned the song, the band enjoyed success only by Steve Perry's amazing vocals. The previous stylings of the band may have appealed to the locals, Perry broke them out to national success.
Journey now cover band The band for money 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
Right!
It's Neal's band he can do whatever he wants with the band and like all people he has to earn a living so he does everything to keep this band alive and they still fill up stadiums and the band sounds awesome!
Just remember that Steve caused it. He bailed on the band suddenly forcing them to adjust on the fly.
@@FredPena-rd5cf bullshit he was thrown out because of health issues
@@mickb44 that's not why he left permanently. I had hip surgery and then went back to work. It didn't affect his singing and 'dancing', genius. And you consider yourself an adult? Sheesh.
Steve Perry deserves every nickel on the songs he wrote & sung as a member of Journey. IMO, I don’t think there would be a Journey today if it were not for him.
He gets royalties every time Journey or anyone plays his songs. Perry wants money from the current tour8ng proceeds even though he doesn’t sing anymore. Which is ridiculous
@@Jimmy-Legs since he wrote the song & they are still singing them, imo, he is entitled to royalties. That’s why it called royalties.
@@jeanneanderson3367 That’s what I said. 😂😂😂
@@jeanneanderson3367 He wants more than royalties. Which he isn’t entitled to. Perry has always been a bit of a whiny little thing.
The replacements they get sound like Perry, not Rollie...
And yes Steve has a right to get paid for his contributions whether Neal Schon likes it or not.
Totally agree 👍
Perry gets royalties every time Journey plays his music.
Nobody disputes his standard royalties, but he is not a band member today, so he does not get tour money proceeds (which he was asking for)
Schon let his wife/manager/WIFE destroy his relationship with Steve.
Schon is more loony than Eddie Van Halen was.
If Perry is still considered legally part of the band.
For years Journey as a whole has said that they were band BEFORE Perry, and they will continue to be after. The “trip up” IS though (I think anyway), if they considered themselves to be a band BEFORE Perry why then is it that really all that they play in a live show is music from the time that Perry was in the band?
Maybe I’m wrong but I feel like joining the original Santana lineup as a teen really boosted Schonn’s ego. 🤷🏼♂️
@@TammyCreswell-l7h YES! Takes an ENTIRE band to tango
Perry deserves money for his songwriting, singing and performances. He gave the band a brand and sound. Since he's left they have tried to duplicate him with sound alikes, but there'll never be another Perry
Very true.Nowadays,even Perry cant do Perry.
My point exactly. If Neil Schon doesn't think Steve was that great then why doesn't he try to hire a new lead singer who has his own unique sound instead of just looking for a lead singer who can sound as close as possible to Steve? Even he must be aware that before Steve the band was going nowhere and it wasn't until Steve became the lead singer that the band became a rock and roll legend. Without Steve Perry people today would be asking "Neil who?"!
@@SusanWard-f9k ask Neal about alllll the zero hits on the albums before Perry. Even the guy that wrote Wheel in the Sky couldn’t touch Steve.
I think Steve deserves money from all the songs he helped write.
As do all people who remember Journey when they were actually Journey.
He still gets he's royalties!
He does, it’s called publishing and it is substantial….that doesn’t give him rights to future proceeds though. ie: touring, merch etc.
Obviously
He already gets it
His voice made journeys songs sell , He definitely needs to be paid . If that’s the case Neal Schon shouldn’t get a dime from his years with The Santana Band !
Journey was an average rock band until Steve Perry joined the band he is one of the greatest vocalists in rock and roll!
No!!!! his voice is coming out from his nose......that's cheating.
No, they were above average. All of them were great musicians. They had a great fan base before Steve joined. The thing is, Steve caused them to become more than just a great band, but an international, household name brand that completely blew the roof off the house in a way the previous incarnation could not do. Schon is more controlled by his WIFE/MANAGER than Ozzy Osbourne is.
All this strife Schon is spewing is really coming from his wife.
Schon is.
🐈🐱 whipped.
@@BeyondOurSolarSystem They were great musicians but a forgettable band until he joined.
@g.garcia7151 true story , they were a jazz infusion band , only appealed to a certain genre
@@edieiyonWTH??? 🤷🏻♂️😂🤦🏻♂️
Journey fame shot to the HEAVENS when Steve Perry came aboard. I had no clue Journey existed till that moment. He has earned his portion of the loot.
now they have a hong kong singer named *“sum dum phuc”*
@@Muttlnchopsforever My comment was solely directed at Meal Shiton. Pineda is a Hired Singer, and actually pretty good.
There would have been no Journey without Steve Perry. He was magic on stage and recordings.
Funny how the same kind of situation developed with their later front men?
Really? Why wasn´t he successful by himself before Journey then? He could have used all his magic by himself and saved all the trouble
@@gfexc how many records did he have post Journey? A couple at least. How many records did the band have pre Steve Perry? Uh,…hello? You still there?
@@christinebailey9935 3 recods without la madame perry
@@christinebailey9935 How many records did perry had pre journey? None. How many records Journey had before la perry? 3 Uh...hello, are you still there?
Steve Perry was and always will be the voice of Journey they have had a great run with other vocalists but Steve Perry carried that band to unmeasurable heights no one was as successful a singer for Journey then Steve Perry . Don't forget that Journey . Let's be reasonable .
Schon wouldn't have plastic surgery funds if it wasn't for Steve Perry. It's unfortunate to see what a sad Journey cover band Neal has created, talk about an enormous ego.
Absolutely right man! He looks pretty ridiculous trying to avoid aging... Steve on the other side - the absolute opposite.
They are holding on to his coat tails....have not had a hit since Steve left.....would not be Journey without Perry
Jon does Christian music on the side he is trying to prove that you can be a rocker and still live for Jesus
@@aprilgosa5779 Yep can't serve 2 masters....
Without Perry there would have been no Journey.
100%! Neal Schon is just MAD b/c his plastic surgery looks like garbage!..
WRONG..... I know both of them and Schon carried that band.
@@csnide6702 I don't give a f if u do know both if he was in the band he deserves a share. What kind of dck move is that? And try to replace perry, it would not be the same AT ALL
@@csnide6702 - first, yes, neil is one of my 3 favorite guitarists of all time. however, if what yoiu're saying were true, the band would never have needed to find a lead singer. in reality, journey back in '77, was going to be dropped from their label UNLESS they found a good lead singer. it was perry who saved that band from being sent to the dustbin and who carried them to the big success.
And with No Journey and Herbie Herbert there never would’ve been a SP.
Journey was a band not a man.
How can somebody even think for one moment?That Steve Perry wouldn't deserve any money from journey.I mean, really?He was the face of journey with that voice.And it's just unbelievable the greed that people have
The problem here is Neal's Gold-digger wife. She is the Yoko Ono of Journey.
I can hardly wait for the day when she files for divorce and claims her share of Neal's money 😉
Amen
"The Yoko Ono of Journey" doesn't sound like a compliment in ANY WAY.
Cain's wife is a golddigger as well. A preacher of the wealth and prosperity gospel.
100
.. perfectly articulates why Neal is hated by so many people.
Neal Schon is a whiny baby. Without Perry, Schon is nothing but a Botoxed, has been guitar player, who s 15 minute was up a long time ago.
Perrys high notes are not easy to hit, he got a nice vibrato and Schon got a nice tone too but there are a lot of guitar players that had his tone and could replace him!
Neil must not have enough money to keep buying his latest GF material gifts. Maybe it is and will be her time to cling to another ego. What hollow lives wasting oxygen.
its spelled Slong. Neal Slong. ...😉😉😉👊👊
Steve must be pretty important, because moving forward they Journey find singers that mimic Steve.
Exactly
Because most known songs were written for steve’s voice, and so the singer must have a voice that resembles steve’s.
He deserves everything he gets ...so get over ur selfs ...
Perry was why I listened to Journey. Jealousy and greed from the rest of the band are the reasons why Journey is no more.
Blame Neal Schon. Leave the rest o the band out of this.
@@ssmouse77you're right because neal is the only co founder still in the band so he would be the one in charge.
Journey without Steve. Chicago without Peter Cetera. Styx without Dennis DeYoung. Foreigner without Lou Gramm. All these bands did not have hits after their lead singers left. 😖
Kansas without Steve Walsh
So true. I miss all those great singers.
You are wrong about Chicago they had 5 top tens 7 top 40' on the charts after Peter left.
Spinal Tap without Nigel
@@chestrockwell7023 Lmao! Well played my friend
Schon was a nobody hired gun guitarist with Carlos Santana and didn't make bank and years later he takes it out on Perry, the big difference is Perry wrote much of the lyrics to the very songs that put Journey on the map...He very well deserves his royalties...That's how the music business works....
I would hardly call neal schon a nobody. As a kid he was recruited by Santana at age 14. He was a prodigy. At 17, Eric Clapton asked him to join Derek and the Domino's. He is considered one of the best guitarists of all time. Steve Perry was a huge part of Journey's success, but Neal would have gotten a great gig regardless of Steve joining the bans.
@@ericwaldron3599and many years later Schon nearly bankrupts the band with his and his wife’s frivolous credit card spending. No wonder he needs the Steve Perry royalty payout
@timo4040 My response to the comment was that Neal Schon is not a musical nobody, he is an incredible guitarist according to anyone who is great including Eric Clapton and Prince. His spending habits were not up for debate. He has been irresponsible, but Journey is a highly lucrative brand. Their music, merch and concerts generateva lot of money every year. They are far from bankrupt. A lot of that is from touring which Perry gets a piece of with no effort. Schon and crew do all the physical heavy lifting there. I think he has done OK by Perry.
The partnership of Steve Perry and Jon Cain was Journey. They took the band to heights they would never have reached had it not been for Perry/Cain song writing. Journey was a boring, faceless stoner band before Perry transformed them. The addition of Cain was icing on the cake. Some of the greatest rock music ever created.
And Jonathan Cain wrote most of the music to their biggest hits
Neal wouldn't have a dime had he not crossed paths with Steve. It was a great combination. Be thankful it was. Let it rest.
Without Perry, there would never have been Journey . Period .
you know NOTHING about music.
@@csnide6702 How do YOU KNOW? I know NOTHING about Music? What is Steve Perrys' Daughter name? 🤔
@@BiolimitlessVideos i met him before he had kids ... so i wouldn't know..... or care.....
There still would have been the band, Journey. Period. However, it would not have been as popular.
@@csnide6702 the shit they did before steve was not that good or they would not have ot him
Journey was going nowhere until Steve joimed the band.... je wrote, or co-wrote ALL their hits.... he deserves every F*ing penny.
Neil is a founding member of Journey, but the only reason people are still going to see them is because of the songs Steve Perry sang. If they were not allowed to play the songs Perry and Caine wrote, Neil wouldn’t be able to sell out a club.
There is a reason every subsequent singer for Journey after Steve has tried their darndest to sound like Steve. Journey is not Journey without that voice.
1000% and that is what eats at him.
That's the truth, Perry was the band.
Steve's voice is Journey, like it or not Neal. You(neal) can be replaced but the voice of Steve can't. Bitter pill to swallow, the TRUTH huh neal!
Sounds to me like Neal is jealous and envious of Steve
He's always been jealous of Steve from when Herbie brought Steve to Journey.
Neal is a nasty, imature brat and thief.
Bottom line is Journey was going to be dropped from their label had Perry not joined.
Without his vocals, nobody would know or care who Neil Schon is.
Right on.
Doesn’t matter….he gets his publishing etc….he’s not entitled to anything else. Another thing, he’s a Primadonna who says “ he never felt accepted????” He literally took over and caused the jettison of Herbert WHO FOUNDED THE WHOLE THING, SMITH , VALORY AND ROLLIE!!!! If you knew people who were there you would see…..I know A BUNCH OF THEM!! He’s a nice guy and a fantastic singer/songwriter but impossible to work with long term.
@@jefflanham1080 By long term you mean like over 20 years?
It doesn’t sound like uber spendaholic prima donna Schon is much easier to get a long with. Even Ariel ( AI Steve Perry) has had enough.
You brought up all these ole founding members, but without Perry and Cain the entirety of those members existence ( just like pre Buckingham Nicks Fleetwood Mac) would have been very interesting story of “almost rans”. Nobody on earth was buying their junk music before Perry. He made them rich and gave them the careers they still have today.
Dont stop believin’ that.
@@scrwwea_nhl_hut5288 nobody doubt’s the chemistry they had …but like Rollie he split. End of story. He can’t act like the victim…and in successful acts this is the norm.
@@scrwwea_nhl_hut5288 also, as great as he was Journey had the deal and without that vehicle we may have never heard the name Steve Perry. Personally I wish Rollie would have stayed because that a huge part of that great sound they had when Perry joined. Much like Van Halen it became two separate bands. The second with Cain very successful but they also became more pop and lost a certain edge…
Without Steve Perry there would be no journey! Just like there ain’t one now !
Perry put Journey on the map. They were nothing before Steve Perry
Although I do like Journeys first three albums.
There are 10 year olds who can play like Neil Schon but there is only one Steve Perry voice. He deserves it all !
No there isn't.
Schon is a much better guitarist than any ten year old.
Or you.
@@David-j1xbro I just watched an 11 year old on Americas got talent who might take issue with what you just said 😂
@@David-j1x10yr old or not. Guitarists are a dime a dozen. There is and will ever be only one Steve Perry.
James is a Guitar Hero God!!
Agreed. I never bought any Journey music, but wow, there’s only one Journey I remember. Steve Perry made journey. I had no idea who the other members were and still don’t.
Steve Perry is one of the most talented singers that has ever sung rock, he MADE journey. Meanwhile Neil Schon continues to make a fool out of himself with his perms and his silly wife, his plastic surgeries, and his fights with Cain over money, WHILE he and Cain are sharing a stage every night. Neal schon has shown he is just not a good guy, and he really should stop his constant smack talking, it makes him look terrible
I think Steve Perry is going to look at Journey now and they get what Neal deserves. Neal Schon knows that Steve Perry was a great singer and he and the band was making money hand over fist.Now they struggle to get by.Neal likes to spend like the good old days.Times has changed and money don't go far no more. That is just like people making comments about Steve is always in that green jacket.Steve seems to me that he is more conscience about his spending. I Love Steve Perry always.🥰😛💋💜🦋
@@janicealexander4432 They're still selling out their venues. Except now they're a notch higher than a cover band. It would be like Aerosmith continuing without Steven Tyler.
Well said. Neal is a disgrace to what was a great band. Steve deserves as does Ross all they gave to make Journey what it became.
Steve Perry made Journey!!!
With Steve Perry Journey songs dominate radio play. Post Steve Perry new Journey songs ZERO radio play.
I didn't even know that Journey recorded any new songs without Steve Perry. They must not be very good songs.
journey would be a distant memory without Steve Perry...
And nobody would’ve ever known about SP without Journey.
His solo stuff while he had two hits is just okay.
@@edbigtruck But he did have hits without Journey . What have they had without him . And why did Neal think it was so important to get a Perry sound alike . A good karaoke singer really .
@@TheJukeboxjimcuz those songs demand that kind of voice.
@@marioaguileraiii8181 Exactly my point .Schon who has an overrated opinion of himself , can be replaced .They never really replaced Perry . No matter what Neal thinks
@@TheJukeboxjim uh they replaced Perry years ago!
Doubtful people would have even remembered Journey if not for the contributions of Steve Perry.
Like it or not, without Steve, there’s no Journey.
Not taking away from the band but musicianship doesn’t create hits.
That iconic voice got them all paid.
When you hear a Journey song the first thing you notice is Steve Perry’s voice that’s my opinion, as great as Schon it’s Perry’s voice on those iconic 80’s songs that made Journey immensely popular
This story is so sad. There is more than enough money to go around, yet these talented, iconic musicians fight with each other. Steve Perry was an amazing addition to Journey.
Neal should be thanking Steve like a grateful MFer for making him and Journey a legend. Without Steve, Journey probably would have disbanded, and not been very famous and/or successful!
Without Steve Perry they are not Journey.
Whether Neal likes it or not, Steve made Journey!
JOURNEY WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN BIG WITHOUT STEVE.
Let me put it like this: without Steve Perry there wouldn’t have been any royalties to be shared.
They specifically looked for a singer who sounded like Steve, so yeah, they're "hanging on to his coat tails".
Great point!!
No Perry. No Journey. That simple. Give him what he is entitled to.
Seems like every time I see something about journey, it’s always about Neal Schon, and money! He tried to screw Jonathan Caine out of money, and now Steve Perry! I have a great idea for this band……QUIT!
Neil Schon is the most ungrateful person there is! Steve Perry made millions of dollars for him!
Perry ASKED to come back after 10 years. The band didn't want him back. So Schon got what he deserved. Perry MADE that band famous. Without him, Journey would've folded long before.
What are you talking about? Steve went back and they made their last album in '97. Did he try again ten years later?
Journey would not be remembered without him. His voice pushed them to greatness.
It sucks that all of these guys MADE IT. They made it to the top. And this will be their legacy. A feud.
Hey Neal, without Steve Perry no one would know who you are.
Perry got a great severance package when he left Journey and Neal is bitching about it decades after the fact. Neal is a lousy businessman and he’s trying to cover his expenses because they’re out of control. Several years ago he bought three Lamborghinis in the space of a year. It’s obvious he doesn’t have the resources to afford his lavish lifestyle. His wife is only with him for his money so when that dries up he’s heading for another divorce.
The Lambos can cover some of the divo...
I always wondered why he would sell his main guitars , he used on Infinity and Escape . It all makes sense now . I think it's pretty safe to say Jon Cain is telling the truth with the lawsuit against Neal for the bands finances .
Wasn't for Steve Perry, Journey wouldn't have been the band they were. Neil should shut the hell up,and be grateful that Perry came along when he did.
Without Perry Journey would NOT exist!
I can't imagine Journey without Steve Perry's smooth vocals, I think he deserves credit for his contribution to the band.
God Bless Steve Perry! He deserves every penny! He got me through many rough times!
Steve perry made journey more famous n more hits then ant other members his voice made them big n not Neal steves singing will live way longer then Neal n the way he was treated shame on them steve perry will live on n on while Steve will shine Neal will fade into darkness
Steve Perry was the correct formula of rocket fuel to finally launch Journey off the ground and into the Cosmos...
His voice is that of an Angel and full of soul and inspiration..... His vocal gifts were so iconic and awesome...
As he sang.... you felt moved deeply and a beautiful sound that is healing and full of deep emotion..
As far as the business side goes? Money really began to flow and in huge amounts.... So he is due what should be coming to him.
It's sad that Neil cannot understand this dynamic.... He should be Thankful to Steve and find a way to mend the fences and find forgiveness... We all need this to happen so that their Story i remembered as Beautiful and touching...
As far as Cover singers? Some were okay... but none of them could match Steve and how he did it....
I only listen to the Music where steve is singing.... I never bought the stuff after Steve left...
Same goes for Foreigner except i like Todd Michael Hall of Riot V who can really sing those tunes
Same.
Neal and Jon both sold their rights to those songs that Steve helped write. Steve held on to his rights. So who cares about the music and who cares about money?
Steve is Journey’s reason for popularity. He deserves to be paid.
Steve Perry made journey ,Steve’s unique voice,how can you say he didn’t deserve to be paid,he deserved every bit of gratitude and money he got ,he is truely a talented man.Steve Perry is a legend❤❤
They never really tell the whole story, do they. This is something else from that interview Neal said:
QUestion: Do you get tired of it being defined by his [PERRYS] presence or his absence?
Neal: Um-no. I think he contributed so much to the sound of the band, obviously, to where those songs are gonna be embedded in everybody’s heads and hearts forever. And I think that we accomplished a lot together.
Yeah I remember that interview. He actually admitted that Steve has such a unique voice that they can really work with him in making so many different song types. Which is why he made the band successful. I'm at least glad neal admitted that.
My God! Journey would never had risen to the level they once were without Steve "The Voice" Perry! He wrote or co-wrote most of the bands greatest hits. He deserves EVERYTHING he can get. They are touring today with Arnel based on their past success.
Journey would not be what it is without Perry's contributions.
Serious this is fucking absurd.... Neil is ruining journey. Or the ultimate journey tribute featuring Neil schon.... He's money hungry and honestly journey lately sounds terrible... And the cover bands are sounding better than the actual journey..... Which is ridiculous
This is interesting. First of all, this is the deal( contract) they made when they kicked Steve out of the band in 1998. If Steve had decided to keep singing, Journey without Steve Perry would have been nothing. Most fans would have bought tickets to see Steve and not Journey without Steve Perry. Steve Perry made Journey a success. The record label was going to drop them after 3 albums and the record label wanted a singer to put them on the radio and that's what Steve did for Journey. Plus, he co wrote almost all of the hit songs they continue to play on stage today. Look at the set list! All songs Steve Perry made famous. PLus the replacement singers were/are Steve Perry sound alikes. So, as a fan, I think Steve Perry deserves every penny he receives from the Journey tribute band that is on the road today!
Steve Perry deserves every single penny he gets from this band. Journey would be nothing without him and that is reality. He took it to a level that for 50 years people have been curious about them. Thanks to Steve Perry, people know who Journey is and want to listen to their music because of that voice.💯
Schon is greedy.
Never heard of Journey until Steve joined them.
Facts. The very first journey song I heard as a kid was from the Tron legacy movie. Separate ways worlds apart. Ever since that day I discovered steve Perry's voice.
Perry was Journey. Without him they would have been nothing.
Steve Perry was JOURNEY. Without him, you can never fly....
Journey was very good pre-Perry. Different, but quite good. With Steve Perry they became commercial giants. Schon’s ego has been hurt since.
Neal Schon picks a lot of fights. He could do Journey a favor by ending the malicious negativity and moving on.
Without Perry Journey is nothing.
When I think of Journey, the first person I think of is Steve Perry. It certainly isn't Neil Schon.
But it’s Steve Perry’s voice that put them over the top….Thats why you have a lot of guys that try to perfect or imitate Steve’s iconic sound
Wtf......maybe the most destinctive voice in music.Neal should be paying and saying thank you to Steve
Ah yes, Neal Schon and his Journey cover band. They weren't jack shit before Steve Perry and the Escape album.
Naw the classic journey sound is when Rollie was with the band that’s journey
Steve was in the band before Escape. Jonathan joined on the Escape album and fundamentally changed the sound.
@@ManuelHerrera-v7oagreed
@dave3805 Yes you are correct, and I have listened to and loved Journey and Santana since 1972. But Neal Schon has searched the planet for a Steve Perry replica, at one time even found someone with a similar name with Steve Augeri. So Neal himself knows how important Steve was and still is, so he should never complain about the amount of money Steve is still being paid.
Perry was the band. Steve put them on the map. The rest of the band was good also, but Perry was the name and voice
And this is why bands with the perfect lineups break up. Look at a band like Loverboy. They are still together, have always been together, no breakups, nothing, because everyone is treated as equals. Journey had their best singer with Steve Perry and the egos of certain members destroyed the cohesion.
Don't know the legalities of it all but I do know this as a teenager from the 80's, if it weren't for Steve Perry as the front man with that voice, that hair, that smile, my friends and I would not have had the T-shirts, albums, or any future merch. Journey without that voice would have been no competition for the other 80s rock bands. They would have been air supply with no air. Unless you tell me Perry was at a Diddy Party, I am always going to be team Journey with Perry.
You nailed it with every single word ❤️
Making $$$ and not dealing with neils BS. I say thats a winner.
STEVE DESERVED THE MONEY. HE SAVED YOUR BAND!!!!
And when they looked for a new singer, they picked one who sounded exactly like Perry.
Journey wouldn't be nothing without him
Not to be disrespectful to Neal Schon (and I think he's a great guitarist and at one time there was a magical chemistry between the boys) but who was Journey before Steve Perry? Who are they now? Cover band? I think Arnel is great but ... Steve Perry put his heart and soul into it - truthfully I think Steve has been short changed. Who's whining- Steve? Neal? - think you both wanted different things, so it seems
Who was Perry before Journey? He gave up music and went back to the turkey farm. If not for Herbie who Perry backstabbed Perry would be a no body.
@@phillipmarlowe0525 If Journey had not discovered Steve Perry, Journey would have been in the infinite space of universal non-existence, Journey was known after Esteve arrived.
🤣😂😂
Disagree. They would have found someone else or evolved into bigger band anyway. Perry was nothing before Journey. Journey at least has a strong following. Perry sucked then and now.
@@phillipmarlowe0525yeah, right. They were about to get dropped by the record company before Steve Perry joined them. Steve is the reason Journey became so popular. Neal didn’t mind all the money Steve was making him, though. He’s still making money because of Steve. Neal has always been an arrogant, whiny a**. That’s why he couldn’t get along with any of them. He’s still doing the crap and that’s why Jonathan Cain is suing him. Neal thinks he deserves all the money. Steve was smart to leave the group. He got away from all the drama.
@@phillipmarlowe0525 sounds personal if you ask me. You can't deny Journey IS Journey bc of Steve Perry, c'mon.
Journey would have not been successful without Steve Perry
There you go, as soon as you mentioned a wife was involved it is clear what the driving force was. Despite the musicians indicating they were the founders it was Perry and his amazing vocals that made the band.
Perry came out on top. He got away from Schon's ego and petty schoolyard bs, while still making huge money off of his years of hard work.
This obviously lives rent free in Schon's head.
Without Perry’s voice Journey would have went nowhere. That voice was magic.
Journey would be nowhere without Steve’s voice .
Jon and Neil forget they wouldn't have what they have if not for Steve.
You had no band without Steve Perry.
Journey without Steve Perry is like Styx without Dennis DeYoung. They can still use the name but they're not the same band.
Steve Perry may have been The New Kid on the Block, but became everybody's favorite member!
Neil Schon is a brilliant guitarist, but Steve Perry is even more astounding as a singer (IMO of course).
Steve sang toured for years, his voice made the band
Thanks to their petty bickering, Journey has gone from one of the greatest pop rock bands of all time to the best Journey cover band of all time.
Schon was in a second-class band before Steve Perry joined. Period. Their success only flourished when Perry joined the band. Whether or not Perry penned the song, the band enjoyed success only by Steve Perry's amazing vocals. The previous stylings of the band may have appealed to the locals, Perry broke them out to national success.