Tommy Burns was the Canadian Heavyweight Champion. The 1st man that took the Heavyweight Title all over the planet and fought any and everybody. Old school as it gets. Became a preacher and protested segregation after Boxing.
Or they have big show muscles but weak tendons, average bone size.. but definitely at a first glance a big body can be deceiving as to what is really there
Playing football... we called guys from out on the farm ,'country strong' never put up huge numbers in the weight room, but try & block or tackle em, and you felt it!
I'm a MIG welder by trade and some of my colleagues kind of have that same sort of strength you described as farm strength. Maybe not to the same extent as those doing manual farm work but some of these guys are a lot stronger than they look. A while back one of the new guys at my place who was a regular gymgoer and had even used steroids in the past but as an inexperienced welder he required assistance to lift a two man jig. Some of the more experienced guys at my place who've been doing the job for years have never even set foot in a gym or even lifted weights yet are able to lift two man jigs by themselves completely unaided without any problems. Another time I'd been given a misshapen bracket for one of the parts I was working on. I asked my manager what to do with it. He told me to manipulate it. I was new and inexperienced at the time and didn't quite know how to go about it (this is a small workshop that normally only does welding, no fabrication). He placed the bracket in a vice, slid a piece of box section over it and bent it into the correct shape using brute force. Bear in mind these brackets are not hollow they're made from solid steel bar. I've also heard of other tradesmen being similarly strong particularly boiler fitters, brick layers and masons have a reputation for being extremely strong even in old age.
I gotta say the average man has definitely gotten stronger in a fight over time. My logic is this: We actually have people that train to fight in a lot of styles these days, and I believe it's a LOT more common than it was in the 1950's. We have BJJ, muay thai, wrestling, boxing, kickboxing MMA, among of a host of other fighting styles. I mean it's not uncommon for me to talk to guys at the gym I work at who do BJJ or some type of of martial art. We simply didn't have those things in the 1950's, aside from wrestling, boxing, and maybe some Judo. Hell, I box and do MMA, and the only reason I do those things at all, is because of how common it is in society, how often it's advertised and shown on television, and how readily accessible training facilities are. I remember 20 years ago if I ended up fighting some guy in a bar, he was just some drunk guy at a bar. I feel like these days if I fought some guy at a bar, I wouldn't be surprised if he's trained in boxing, MMA, or BJJ. On top of that, I don't think we had NEARLY the amount of people who were physically fit and lifted weights in the 1950's. Now to counter that statement we also didn't have nearly the amount of overweight out of shape people either. But regardless, usually if you're bigger, you're going to be stronger than if you would be if you were smaller. You couple that with the larger bodied, stronger, possibly more skilled fighters of today, and you are looking at the average man winning fights more often than not against the average man in the 1950's.
That's an interesting theory regarding the country vs city boys, but in my experience it doesn't bear out. Explanation: I grew up in the suburbs, and then halfway through High School my parents moved us to a "transitional area" where the new suburbs were being built in a traditionally country area. There was a huge rivalry between the guys who grew up there farming and the transplants from the city. I witnessed a lot of fights in the two years I was there. It was about even between the city boys and the country boys. No background had a clear advantage. Farm strength is real - I used to discuss with the people I did strength training with. The whole "city street tough" is real as well, though. They could both fight.
Interesting anecdote. Psychological toughness and durability are as important as strength/explosivity in the broader outcomes of fights and they're not exclusive to any region. There are bad mofos walking around everywhere and it's best not to test anyone over petty shit.
The average guy is a heavyweight by 1910s standards but the average regional mma heavyweight today is 6'4 235 with slight love handles. I originally said 1930s but guess what, guys like James Braddock were over 6'2
One very important aspect which will be very different ist the ability just to move. Stand on one leg, shift weight, make a step exactly where you want it to. I see a massive difference in 'young' people being born in different decades. "So the question comes down to: Can the smaller nerd utilize his ability of moving his body?" In my experience I'd say "it will be very very hard" and I'd bet my money on the heavier dude still.
Your title got me to thinking that when I watch MMA, I like watching welterweights more than anything because you see a lot more technique than the heavies. Especially those flying armbars! 👍💪👊
Idk about other organizations but the most famous flying armbar in the UFC is from a flyweight. And Flyweight through Bantamweight have the most technique and skill generally speaking
Hey coach, given your other occupation with dance, would you fancy doing any dance related content? Maybe you could go talk about some dance fundamentals that apply to any dance, solo or partnerwork stuff?
Depends on what era of heavyweight back in jack johnsons time he was a giant at 6’1 and 200lbs. I think the commentator was referring to the American average which is 69 in tall(5’7-5’8) and 199-200lbs which would have been a heavyweight back almost 100 years ago.
@@user-ci2mn1oy3w actually via conversion its 5.75 feet just rounded up. Same as how 70 in is actually 5.83333333 feet. Height isn’t exact when converted especially when you go from metric to imperial.
@@user-ci2mn1oy3w Thats not how the decimals nor conversions I’m specifically talking about work and you know it. While 3/4 of 12 is 9 not all conversions are even or fit properly. Turn off the debate brain you have no leg to stand on here
Speaking of weight class, I've always wondered why in boxing, despite having almost twice as many weight class as MMA, there aren't any weight class between 175 lb (light heavyweight) and 200 lb (cruiserweight) while there are 15 between 175 and 105. Are boxers that would be middleweight in mma just screwed and forced to fight at a suboptimal weight class?
Boxers don’t cut as much in general, but it really doesn’t make sense. Cruiser weights are generally at least 6’2 and walk around +220. Light heavyweights can walk around anywhere from 185-200.
Weight means less the heavier you are, because it's a smaller percent increase. Combine with a lack of grappling and there isn't as big a difference as there is in MMA, and then consider that the weight classes were made when people were lighter.
You can tell that alot of guys are inflated beyond what their natural frame would want to be carrying, especially gym lifter types. It’s a big difference between that and somebody who naturally has huge bones and structure. Then again some people are able to handle being puffed up or fat, like Daniel cormier.
ha ha the title of the video alone is so spot on. all people are heavy as in fat. obesity does people in faster than a right cross these days. thanks for another good video ramsey.
I watch a lot of content from a lot of different types of creators, from a ton of really well educated people, and you are the first outside of agriculture to mention anything about soil depletion. Not saying you are uneducated but it is kind of wild that its the dude who makes MMA content instead of the nutritionist with a doctorate.
Hey coach, you want to talk about the sneako vs Sean Strickland sparring fight? Idk if that's up your alley, but would be nice to hear your thoughts on it. Thanks.
Hey Ramsey I live here in Florida in America I'm a millwright which means I build industrial equipment I did powerlifting for years it came easy because of physical labor I did in my trade we always called it job strong it the millwright world fast forward I train BJJ and I'm always told how wide or strong I am and people ask how much I bench you should see they're eyes when I say I don't I don't go to the gym or powerlift just work hard and grapple so I completely agree with that portion of your video I love how you cover all the areas of a subject in your videos thanks
I’m a carpenter with country boy friends, done powerlifting, do strongman now, know bodybuilders, my younger brother fights mma. It’s crazy how different the physical strengths and types of toughness are in those different realms. I’m stronger in every measurable way than my little brother, but I’m a helpless child when he gets his hands on me. You can call it technique, or body/positional awareness, but either way the strength application difference is shocking. I feel utterly “overpowered” when we grapple.
It’s athletic specificity. Moving barbells is easily measurable. The athletic crossover from lifting weights to combat sports exists, and it is important, but it’s not the same application of strength and power as doing combat sports. The body will adapt to the specific demands placed upon it.
Try old-school lumberjack vs city slicker. Lumberjacks used to burn 7000 Calories per day from manual labor. A guy like that could rip your head off with his bare hands if he had some fighting experience.
Hi coach, bouncing off another comment about the average by the WHO's reckoning, with the male being in the area of 175cm, what would be the ideal muscle mass and body fat to be healthy, functionally strong and fairly lean? A sort of general jack-of-all-trades athletic shape rather than a specialised one like a powerlifter for example.
@@ricciardoricciardi You’re shorter than me, about the same weight, and you admittedly don’t know how to fight. So, tell me, why do you believe you have such massive advantages that beating me in a fight would be easy?
The most common Chinese desserts normally contain bean paste and are just slightly sweet. I'm speaking of traditional deserts not the Western desserts that are sweeping Asia.
you accurately described the MODAL* man as being a han chinese workman, but definitely not the AVERAGE man; the AVERAGE male, per the World Health organization (they're the people I would trust to know this kind of thing) is 5'9" and 199.8lbs. Note that the "western" male is both taller (5'10") AND lighter (176lbs)
Average typically means mean. And he did not describe the mean man, he described the mode man. I.e. most common, or most likely of what you'd get if picking guys at random.
If I were to enter thd UFC it would have to be in the heavyweight division. Though I would be at a disadvantage at the lower end of it. The point about the food is well taken. I recently spent 3 weeks in the Philippines. I ate similar amounts of food to what I normally eat, but lost weight. I think it is not just sugar, but the chemical, additives, and preservatives in our mostly processed foods.
@@RamseyDewey a mix of home-cooked meals (my wife is Filipina and we were staying with family) , fast food, and local restaurants. Not much different from what I eat at home. Just less processed food in general. The main difference seemed to be food quality and freshness. Fortunately since I have been back in the USA I seem to have found all the pounds I lost overseas. #sarcasm
More than likely not he viewed the heavyweight title is the most prestigious over all the other weight divisions so yes he could have made it but it would have been really impressive to see him do it since the fact only 6'2 220lvs is not a small guy but still by heavyweight standards not a monstrous individual either
How has being religious affected your time in the martial arts community? Have u ever been bullied or experienced discrimination based on what you believe within the gym or your local martial arts community?
I have known a number of farmers. Some of them are quite strong and some are very weak. These days, some of them spend more time with a keyboard and joystick than hauling bails of hay. I noticed Joe Rogan saying the most absurd things about his fantasies of "old man strength", as though all or most "old men" are strong. Obviously, they aren't, and it's also not necessarily the case with farmers, builders or road workers. 🤔
I think the closest I've ever heard of athletes coming to that sort of farm strength have been old school judoka, which kinda makes sense, since judo involves A LOT of throwing around dead weight. Sure, momentum is a huge part of it, but at the end of the day you're still throwing a dude your size or even bigger over your shoulder like a sack of flour.
Dont know about rural, but the slander of "city slickers" not onowing an honest days work when me among many guys work 10-12hr shifts and anecdotely I've grappled with farm folk. Its technique and the application of strength.
A possibly controversial opinion: aikido and ninjutsu can be 95% as effective as MMA and boxing for self defense all things considered. This is because if the goal is to defend yourself from harm and death, any sport, when done intensively enough, is very effective against heart problems and excess weight. And those are way more dangerous and common than street violence. Ofc. the actual martial arts are way more effective in a fight, but tbh that is not where most people's priorities should be.
Do you think it would be silly to compete in 160lb weight class for judo if im 5'6" or should i cut down to 145 before competing? Im basically between the two. Id like to gain muscle but the competetiveness of 160 is way higher. Thoughts?
I found a Bubble Tea Place when I was out for a Haircut. Of Course I had to try one. it was very Weird. I don't understand why someone would Tapioca Balls in Tea. Id drink it again but it was just weird. I hope that Everybody is doing Well in the Dewey Clan.
What about fat? We are talking about sugary foods and drinks but what about food high in fat? Examples, French fries, fried chicken, ice cream, all the oils we use while cooking. Fats are 9 calories per gram while sugar aka carbs are 4 calories per gram. I don't understand why carbs get the bad repetition
Because sugar is being consumed in far greater quantities than fat. Using your example: a single serving of vanilla ice cream contains about 7 grams of fat and about 30 grams of sugar. But that’s not even the worst perpetrator. Most obese people are obese from drinking a consistent stream of pure sugar water. It’s not from fried chicken (a single serving of which has about 14 grams of fat, 40 grams of protein, 2 grams of carbohydrates (zero sugars).
Fat isn't that bad. Fat got such a bad rap in the 90s, food companies swapped fat for sugar, but the calories in packaged food stayed the same. Obesity didn't reduce. IMO fat is more filling than sugar, this is wrong approach. Meanwhile the added sugars in everyday foods keeps rising and rising because "sweeter" is better in taste tests. Even bread in other countries tastes different, it's weird.
@@MaaveMaave, fat is bad. Just like carbs isn't bad. Everything in moderation. But I am personally on a low fat diet. I don't cook with oils. I don't eat fried foods and I keep natural foods with high fat content to a minimum. It helps me a lot. It is simple math. Less calories equal more weight loss
man these are some weird questions. I'm out of shape at 235 and should be 185. When I was 185 and healthy I could beat heavyweights in a full contact "close to no rules" fight. I think this question is about western men over-eating carbs and sugar and crap processed food. A 167lbs Canadian beating a heavyweight is impressive, but not unheard of. If you can beat the heavyweight in your sport you may as well do it to prove it though in a catchweight class.
in the US he is! lol. Most 6 ft tall men weigh WELL over 200 lbs, when a healthy weight for them is sub 180 lbs, and that's if they are quite muscular As lacking in muscles as most US men are, a healthy weight for them is 165 lbs.
Id say that if you are between 6 ft and 6ft 3 a healthy weight is anywhere between 170 and 210 with 210 being big and muscular. People have gotten deceived with all the juicehead gymrats and fat people raising average weight
Sorry for the spam, but I just want to make sure you saw my question (If the topic doesn't interest you, just ignore this): Could you make a video about the sparring session between Sean Strickland and Sneako? Would love to hear your thoughts.
I mentioned this in one of the community polls, but I figured it might be something to explore further: Why do you think some forms of bullshido persist in the Muay Thai community? Obviously not "pressure points and chi balls"-tier stuff, I'm talking more along the lines of "knee/elbow strikes shut down *all* grappling" (and its goalpost-moving cousin "just learn to sprawl,") or the utterly dismissive attitude some display towards other striking arts (EG boxing or Dutch kickboxing.) I guess I find it especially perplexing when martial artists call out idiotic takes from BJJ or boxing purists all the time, but seem to give Muay Thai purists more of a "moron pass" for some reason. (For clarity, none of this is meant as an attack on Muay Thai as a martial art; just that some Nak Muay have a "Dunning-Kruger" problem that doesn't seem to get called out much.)
@@NDOhioanLook Knee can beat Grappling but it's rare look at Masvidal vs Askren, Body Power>>Fists, Elbow, Legs Grappling use the entire body power against the opponent.
You are thinking of Bob Fitzsimmons as the lightest heavyweight but confusing him with Tommy Burns, who I believe was Canadian. Fitzsimmons was born in New Zealand and grew up in England. Maybe he lived in Canada at some point. Burns did lose to Jack Johnson, but Fitzsimmons lost to Jim Jeffries, who retired undefeated without facing Johnson and then came back as the Great White Hope in the original fight of the century where Johnson demolished him.
In boxing today, almost everybody looks the same, both at beginner and the very top levels. But in older matches from say around the 1990s if I'm right, a lot of fighters had a lot more style and variation to their boxing. Why the change?
@@RamseyDewey I'm not very well-versed but looking at canelo, anthony Joshua, ryan Garcia, etc, they look relatively similar, and look like they try to stay textbook as much as possible. Older boxers seem like they weren't as devoted to staying to the basics, and were a lot more flashy, also they moved around the ring a lot more--the boxers today keep their feet planted most of the time from what I see.
No way Coach, the 147lb nerd from the 50's had to have much thicker skin and deal with corporal punishment at home and at school. He'd clown stomp a 200lb zoomer who's worst punishment was being put in front of a screen.
Ah the real question. Could the average AMERICAN woman, (170 lbs) beat the snot out of the 1950s untrained, low cardio, 147 lbs, low muscle, MALE . Fine fine, probably not, but what if the nerd male was 5'4 115 lbs, which plenty do exist? A 55 lbs untrained difference, both 5'4.
I don't know, I thought average was 5 foot 9 160. Wouldn't that put you at light weight? Cause you're not gonna fight 10 pounds heavier. You're just gonna cut the 5 pounds. Or even 145 featherweight.
I think a lot about soil depletion, and all that wasted land that could be used for cattle... We would all be much healthier if we ate more grass fed animals instead of artificial food and plants! The food industry is evil for sure!
Hey, I grew up in the 2000s. I wasn't fat but did get squashed by someone who was fat 😅🤣😂. I never understood why in American films, the fat kids get picked on. In my school, fat kids ran the school yard😂 they weren't athletic or fit, but they can squash 😂
What do u think about mud wrestling? Also what was thing you dismissed the most or thought was silly band tried it and it worked? The opposite sort of when talk about something being silly
The fat dude got it if they are equally skilled, but i wouldnt count the skinny guy out that simple. If the skinny guy becomes more aggressive and mentally breaks the fat dude up to the point that he gives up. Ive seen it plenty of times in Panama, short guys become vicious like chihuahuas. In fact one of our best boxers, Roberto Duran was known to take fights against bigger opponents and be the bully.
Bob Fitzsimmons? Is that the boxer you’re thinking of? BTW, the average U.S. male is 200 (199.7) lbs and females are 171 (170.8)! Crazy, huh? UPDATE: I don’t know if these “average” weights are mean, median, or modal averages and can’t find the info that would shine more light, but I’m assuming these are means and therefore can be “weighted” (see what I did there?) or skewed towards higher weight because there are so many very obese folks in the U.S. Generally speaking though, most of us old timers are observing that Americans are quite heavier than they were just 50 years ago. Just look at old photos and you’ll see. Too much sugar, corn syrup, and empty calories in the diet these days, fewer jobs requiring manual labor, and generally fewer people living active lives - IOW people eat lots of garbage and sit around way too much.
Today has more soil depletion and more endocrine disruptors. That gives the edge to old school men. Until American football and other sports got bigger during the Cold War, there used to be boxing gyms on every corner in the US. Those American men really knew how to fight. However, these days jujitsu and mma are getting more common, even though they're so far nowhere nearly as big as boxing used to be a century ago. Those skills are more important than boxing by itself, but the average boxer back then was way more physically fit than today, even though we have better knowledge about nutrition and training. Size only matters a lot up to a point. A 50 weight difference against a 100 lb opponent isn't the same as a 50 lb weight difference against a 200 lb opponent. The latter match up is a lot closer because a 250 lb fighter will burn out faster trying to keep up with the 200 lb fighter. A smaller guy with strong legs has a lower center of gravity, too. So size can basically be compensated for as long as the smaller guy isn't *too much* smaller.
He's going by America obviously, average women, 5"3, 180. Man 5' 9, 200. Average person, not a training fighter. It's obvious people are walking around bigger, 1960 women 5'3 , 140. Male 5'9 160.
Neither your nor I know where the viewer is from. I’m a British citizen. I spent my childhood and early adult life in the USA. I have lived half my life in other countries. Only 4% of the world’s population is American. I haven’t lived in the USA for a very long time. American averages are not the first thing to come to mind mid conversation.
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Tommy Burns was the Canadian Heavyweight Champion. The 1st man that took the Heavyweight Title all over the planet and fought any and everybody. Old school as it gets. Became a preacher and protested segregation after Boxing.
Hello? Lennox Lewis Canadian Tommy Burns was shortest 5'7" Bob Fitzsimmons was the lightest 167lbs
Trevor Berbick was Canadian champ then WBC champ. Also Canadian
Alot of people are what we call "fake heavyweights" no heavyweight strength or power but they 200 at a very unfit figure
Or they have big show muscles but weak tendons, average bone size.. but definitely at a first glance a big body can be deceiving as to what is really there
@@slothmode3590 eh bodybuilders are heavyweights not heavyweight martial artists but heavtweights
I've gone from 280lbs to 175lbs. About ready to compete in boxing.
Playing football... we called guys from out on the farm ,'country strong' never put up huge numbers in the weight room, but try & block or tackle em, and you felt it!
We used to call them 'Corn-fed'.
I'm a MIG welder by trade and some of my colleagues kind of have that same sort of strength you described as farm strength. Maybe not to the same extent as those doing manual farm work but some of these guys are a lot stronger than they look. A while back one of the new guys at my place who was a regular gymgoer and had even used steroids in the past but as an inexperienced welder he required assistance to lift a two man jig. Some of the more experienced guys at my place who've been doing the job for years have never even set foot in a gym or even lifted weights yet are able to lift two man jigs by themselves completely unaided without any problems. Another time I'd been given a misshapen bracket for one of the parts I was working on. I asked my manager what to do with it. He told me to manipulate it. I was new and inexperienced at the time and didn't quite know how to go about it (this is a small workshop that normally only does welding, no fabrication). He placed the bracket in a vice, slid a piece of box section over it and bent it into the correct shape using brute force. Bear in mind these brackets are not hollow they're made from solid steel bar. I've also heard of other tradesmen being similarly strong particularly boiler fitters, brick layers and masons have a reputation for being extremely strong even in old age.
Learn from those movements and translate those to your own custom gym equipment. Being a welder you already have an advantage.
The increased sugars is only part of the problem. People are a lot less physically mobile, less physical in general.
I gotta say the average man has definitely gotten stronger in a fight over time. My logic is this: We actually have people that train to fight in a lot of styles these days, and I believe it's a LOT more common than it was in the 1950's. We have BJJ, muay thai, wrestling, boxing, kickboxing MMA, among of a host of other fighting styles. I mean it's not uncommon for me to talk to guys at the gym I work at who do BJJ or some type of of martial art. We simply didn't have those things in the 1950's, aside from wrestling, boxing, and maybe some Judo. Hell, I box and do MMA, and the only reason I do those things at all, is because of how common it is in society, how often it's advertised and shown on television, and how readily accessible training facilities are.
I remember 20 years ago if I ended up fighting some guy in a bar, he was just some drunk guy at a bar. I feel like these days if I fought some guy at a bar, I wouldn't be surprised if he's trained in boxing, MMA, or BJJ. On top of that, I don't think we had NEARLY the amount of people who were physically fit and lifted weights in the 1950's. Now to counter that statement we also didn't have nearly the amount of overweight out of shape people either. But regardless, usually if you're bigger, you're going to be stronger than if you would be if you were smaller. You couple that with the larger bodied, stronger, possibly more skilled fighters of today, and you are looking at the average man winning fights more often than not against the average man in the 1950's.
That's an interesting theory regarding the country vs city boys, but in my experience it doesn't bear out.
Explanation: I grew up in the suburbs, and then halfway through High School my parents moved us to a "transitional area" where the new suburbs were being built in a traditionally country area. There was a huge rivalry between the guys who grew up there farming and the transplants from the city. I witnessed a lot of fights in the two years I was there. It was about even between the city boys and the country boys. No background had a clear advantage.
Farm strength is real - I used to discuss with the people I did strength training with. The whole "city street tough" is real as well, though. They could both fight.
Interesting anecdote. Psychological toughness and durability are as important as strength/explosivity in the broader outcomes of fights and they're not exclusive to any region. There are bad mofos walking around everywhere and it's best not to test anyone over petty shit.
The average guy is a heavyweight by 1910s standards but the average regional mma heavyweight today is 6'4 235 with slight love handles.
I originally said 1930s but guess what, guys like James Braddock were over 6'2
Don't forget Lennox Lewis - He was a Canadian HW. (born in UK, but represented Canada in the Olympics)
truly enjoys your videos brother, greetings from Syria.
One very important aspect which will be very different ist the ability just to move. Stand on one leg, shift weight, make a step exactly where you want it to. I see a massive difference in 'young' people being born in different decades.
"So the question comes down to: Can the smaller nerd utilize his ability of moving his body?"
In my experience I'd say "it will be very very hard" and I'd bet my money on the heavier dude still.
Your title got me to thinking that when I watch MMA, I like watching welterweights more than anything because you see a lot more technique than the heavies. Especially those flying armbars! 👍💪👊
Idk about other organizations but the most famous flying armbar in the UFC is from a flyweight. And Flyweight through Bantamweight have the most technique and skill generally speaking
Hey coach, given your other occupation with dance, would you fancy doing any dance related content? Maybe you could go talk about some dance fundamentals that apply to any dance, solo or partnerwork stuff?
Thank you for entertaining that ridiculous question, if you hadn't it would of bothered me haha
Yes, all other things being equal, size is what matters - which is why so many people tried to make things other than size unequal. I was entertained.
Hey Ramsey, when are you doing the Red Chucks fight breakdown?
Depends on what era of heavyweight back in jack johnsons time he was a giant at 6’1 and 200lbs.
I think the commentator was referring to the American average which is 69 in tall(5’7-5’8) and 199-200lbs which would have been a heavyweight back almost 100 years ago.
5 ft is 60 ", bro. So 69" is 5 ft 9". you're off by quite a bit.
@@user-ci2mn1oy3w actually via conversion its 5.75 feet just rounded up. Same as how 70 in is actually 5.83333333 feet. Height isn’t exact when converted especially when you go from metric to imperial.
@@Banished-rx4ol yes, 9" is 3/4 of 12", aint that wonderful?
@@user-ci2mn1oy3w Thats not how the decimals nor conversions I’m specifically talking about work and you know it. While 3/4 of 12 is 9 not all conversions are even or fit properly. Turn off the debate brain you have no leg to stand on here
@@user-ci2mn1oy3w probably 5ft 9 in to 5 ft 10 in
The American average guy might weigh close to 200 pounds but he’s not a heavyweight. He’s a lightweight who’s 45 pounds overweight.
Speaking of weight class, I've always wondered why in boxing, despite having almost twice as many weight class as MMA, there aren't any weight class between 175 lb (light heavyweight) and 200 lb (cruiserweight) while there are 15 between 175 and 105. Are boxers that would be middleweight in mma just screwed and forced to fight at a suboptimal weight class?
Boxers don’t cut as much in general, but it really doesn’t make sense. Cruiser weights are generally at least 6’2 and walk around +220. Light heavyweights can walk around anywhere from 185-200.
Weight means less the heavier you are, because it's a smaller percent increase. Combine with a lack of grappling and there isn't as big a difference as there is in MMA, and then consider that the weight classes were made when people were lighter.
Yes.
I am currently a LHW. Im preparing each and everyday to fight Alex Pereira ( ._.)
...need to do more cardio.
I'm a 58 year old Black American man. I'm not a heavy weight, I am fat. Period. Full stop.
Could you link to the study comparing nutritional content? I’ve heard a few things about the issue and I’m interested in learning more.
You can tell that alot of guys are inflated beyond what their natural frame would want to be carrying, especially gym lifter types. It’s a big difference between that and somebody who naturally has huge bones and structure. Then again some people are able to handle being puffed up or fat, like Daniel cormier.
ha ha the title of the video alone is so spot on. all people are heavy as in fat. obesity does people in faster than a right cross these days. thanks for another good video ramsey.
I watch a lot of content from a lot of different types of creators, from a ton of really well educated people, and you are the first outside of agriculture to mention anything about soil depletion. Not saying you are uneducated but it is kind of wild that its the dude who makes MMA content instead of the nutritionist with a doctorate.
Hey coach, you want to talk about the sneako vs Sean Strickland sparring fight? Idk if that's up your alley, but would be nice to hear your thoughts on it. Thanks.
Hey Ramsey I live here in Florida in America I'm a millwright which means I build industrial equipment I did powerlifting for years it came easy because of physical labor I did in my trade we always called it job strong it the millwright world fast forward I train BJJ and I'm always told how wide or strong I am and people ask how much I bench you should see they're eyes when I say I don't I don't go to the gym or powerlift just work hard and grapple so I completely agree with that portion of your video I love how you cover all the areas of a subject in your videos thanks
I’m a carpenter with country boy friends, done powerlifting, do strongman now, know bodybuilders, my younger brother fights mma. It’s crazy how different the physical strengths and types of toughness are in those different realms. I’m stronger in every measurable way than my little brother, but I’m a helpless child when he gets his hands on me. You can call it technique, or body/positional awareness, but either way the strength application difference is shocking. I feel utterly “overpowered” when we grapple.
It’s athletic specificity. Moving barbells is easily measurable. The athletic crossover from lifting weights to combat sports exists, and it is important, but it’s not the same application of strength and power as doing combat sports. The body will adapt to the specific demands placed upon it.
4:05 - Medical correction/clarification -- Not sugar; total calories.
Hope you’re doing well Ramsey.
Try old-school lumberjack vs city slicker. Lumberjacks used to burn 7000 Calories per day from manual labor. A guy like that could rip your head off with his bare hands if he had some fighting experience.
Hi coach, bouncing off another comment about the average by the WHO's reckoning, with the male being in the area of 175cm, what would be the ideal muscle mass and body fat to be healthy, functionally strong and fairly lean? A sort of general jack-of-all-trades athletic shape rather than a specialised one like a powerlifter for example.
Yo dewey just curious. How tall are you? Love your pod man, been watching it for years now...keep on keepin on soldier...salute
185cm , 6’1”. Why? Are you getting a suit tailored for me?
@@RamseyDewey im a untrained 183 cm 102 kg whit 196 reach i can beat u ez
@@ricciardoricciardi You’re shorter than me, about the same weight, and you admittedly don’t know how to fight. So, tell me, why do you believe you have such massive advantages that beating me in a fight would be easy?
@@RamseyDewey
youtube deleted my comment for violence, this should make you understand how violent and crazy I am, you have no chance against me
The most common Chinese desserts normally contain bean paste and are just slightly sweet. I'm speaking of traditional deserts not the Western desserts that are sweeping Asia.
And Chinese people still complain that red bean paste is too sweet!
you accurately described the MODAL* man as being a han chinese workman, but definitely not the AVERAGE man; the AVERAGE male, per the World Health organization (they're the people I would trust to know this kind of thing) is 5'9" and 199.8lbs. Note that the "western" male is both taller (5'10") AND lighter (176lbs)
Average typically means mean. And he did not describe the mean man, he described the mode man. I.e. most common, or most likely of what you'd get if picking guys at random.
@@GenericPurpleTurtle blurg. Fixed it.
@@GenericPurpleTurtlewouldn’t they be Indian then and not Han Chinese?
The mean average man has 1.99999 eyes and 1.99999 testicles
Wondering about the weight classifications. I remember when 90,718 kg (200 lbs) was the limit when heavy weight began.
If I were to enter thd UFC it would have to be in the heavyweight division. Though I would be at a disadvantage at the lower end of it.
The point about the food is well taken. I recently spent 3 weeks in the Philippines. I ate similar amounts of food to what I normally eat, but lost weight. I think it is not just sugar, but the chemical, additives, and preservatives in our mostly processed foods.
I just got back from the Philippines too. What were you eating there?
@@RamseyDewey a mix of home-cooked meals (my wife is Filipina and we were staying with family) , fast food, and local restaurants. Not much different from what I eat at home. Just less processed food in general. The main difference seemed to be food quality and freshness.
Fortunately since I have been back in the USA I seem to have found all the pounds I lost overseas. #sarcasm
Crocop fought at heavyweight and he said he could have made middleweight had he wanted I wonder if he wishes he had
More than likely not he viewed the heavyweight title is the most prestigious over all the other weight divisions so yes he could have made it but it would have been really impressive to see him do it since the fact only 6'2 220lvs is not a small guy but still by heavyweight standards not a monstrous individual either
I used to go to a gym that had an area with machines, and kickboxing. The KB coach was NBA tall, probably weighed around 130 kg (and wasn't fat).
That’s a large man.
How has being religious affected your time in the martial arts community? Have u ever been bullied or experienced discrimination based on what you believe within the gym or your local martial arts community?
I have known a number of farmers. Some of them are quite strong and some are very weak. These days, some of them spend more time with a keyboard and joystick than hauling bails of hay. I noticed Joe Rogan saying the most absurd things about his fantasies of "old man strength", as though all or most "old men" are strong. Obviously, they aren't, and it's also not necessarily the case with farmers, builders or road workers. 🤔
what combat sport do you think makes the best atlhetes?
"I'm not your typical American" - The Goats
I think the closest I've ever heard of athletes coming to that sort of farm strength have been old school judoka, which kinda makes sense, since judo involves A LOT of throwing around dead weight. Sure, momentum is a huge part of it, but at the end of the day you're still throwing a dude your size or even bigger over your shoulder like a sack of flour.
Dont know about rural, but the slander of "city slickers" not onowing an honest days work when me among many guys work 10-12hr shifts and anecdotely I've grappled with farm folk. Its technique and the application of strength.
At 2:30 Ramsey's getting up there with Bolo Yeung ....😁 All jokes aside size of people reflects on the Agriculture they are surrounded by ......
Bolo is a tiny barrel chested man. The dude is 5’6”
@@RamseyDewey He still looks pretty spry for his age and imagine he will accept your challenge .😄
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What challenge?
A possibly controversial opinion: aikido and ninjutsu can be 95% as effective as MMA and boxing for self defense all things considered. This is because if the goal is to defend yourself from harm and death, any sport, when done intensively enough, is very effective against heart problems and excess weight. And those are way more dangerous and common than street violence.
Ofc. the actual martial arts are way more effective in a fight, but tbh that is not where most people's priorities should be.
How tall are you coach?
Do you think it would be silly to compete in 160lb weight class for judo if im 5'6" or should i cut down to 145 before competing? Im basically between the two. Id like to gain muscle but the competetiveness of 160 is way higher. Thoughts?
Depends on if it’s fat or muscle but 160 5’6 isn’t bad
bro i fight at 125 and i'm also 5'6
Go up a class.
@@LeadGRuaidri is 5'6 that tall for flyweight?
I found a Bubble Tea Place when I was out for a Haircut. Of Course I had to try one. it was very Weird. I don't understand why someone would Tapioca Balls in Tea. Id drink it again but it was just weird.
I hope that Everybody is doing Well in the Dewey Clan.
SW Idaho,i grew up in Mtn.home Idaho,small world.
What about fat? We are talking about sugary foods and drinks but what about food high in fat? Examples, French fries, fried chicken, ice cream, all the oils we use while cooking. Fats are 9 calories per gram while sugar aka carbs are 4 calories per gram. I don't understand why carbs get the bad repetition
Because sugar is being consumed in far greater quantities than fat. Using your example: a single serving of vanilla ice cream contains about 7 grams of fat and about 30 grams of sugar. But that’s not even the worst perpetrator.
Most obese people are obese from drinking a consistent stream of pure sugar water. It’s not from fried chicken (a single serving of which has about 14 grams of fat, 40 grams of protein, 2 grams of carbohydrates (zero sugars).
Fat isn't that bad. Fat got such a bad rap in the 90s, food companies swapped fat for sugar, but the calories in packaged food stayed the same. Obesity didn't reduce. IMO fat is more filling than sugar, this is wrong approach. Meanwhile the added sugars in everyday foods keeps rising and rising because "sweeter" is better in taste tests. Even bread in other countries tastes different, it's weird.
@@MaaveMaave, fat is bad. Just like carbs isn't bad. Everything in moderation. But I am personally on a low fat diet. I don't cook with oils. I don't eat fried foods and I keep natural foods with high fat content to a minimum. It helps me a lot. It is simple math. Less calories equal more weight loss
man these are some weird questions. I'm out of shape at 235 and should be 185. When I was 185 and healthy I could beat heavyweights in a full contact "close to no rules" fight. I think this question is about western men over-eating carbs and sugar and crap processed food.
A 167lbs Canadian beating a heavyweight is impressive, but not unheard of. If you can beat the heavyweight in your sport you may as well do it to prove it though in a catchweight class.
in the US he is! lol. Most 6 ft tall men weigh WELL over 200 lbs, when a healthy weight for them is sub 180 lbs, and that's if they are quite muscular As lacking in muscles as most US men are, a healthy weight for them is 165 lbs.
Yeah exactly. People have no clue how big even middleweights are. Heavyweights are like dinosaurs lol.
Id say that if you are between 6 ft and 6ft 3 a healthy weight is anywhere between 170 and 210 with 210 being big and muscular. People have gotten deceived with all the juicehead gymrats and fat people raising average weight
Now that the average man is basically a heavyweight. LOL!
Jack Dempsey.
Meanwhile here I am having to eat a ton of food just to have a body weight of 170. And thats on my best day. Usually I top out at around 165-169.
Unpatriotic
If it's Britain the average man is a heavyweight. If it's America the average man is a super heavyweight.
I am a damn brit myself.
No they are not.
You just hang around with fat asses and have a selection bias lmao.
Hey coach, how’s your knee?
The same.
@@RamseyDewey sorry to hear that, I’ve got two torn menisci so I can sympathize 😂🥲. Sorry if this is a dumb question, have you considered surgery?
These cuts are absurd. Khabib cut from 190 and fought 155
buen video aunque yo no me preocuparia por el agotamiento de los suelos
Sorry for the spam, but I just want to make sure you saw my question (If the topic doesn't interest you, just ignore this): Could you make a video about the sparring session between Sean Strickland and Sneako? Would love to hear your thoughts.
Nope
I mentioned this in one of the community polls, but I figured it might be something to explore further: Why do you think some forms of bullshido persist in the Muay Thai community?
Obviously not "pressure points and chi balls"-tier stuff, I'm talking more along the lines of "knee/elbow strikes shut down *all* grappling" (and its goalpost-moving cousin "just learn to sprawl,") or the utterly dismissive attitude some display towards other striking arts (EG boxing or Dutch kickboxing.) I guess I find it especially perplexing when martial artists call out idiotic takes from BJJ or boxing purists all the time, but seem to give Muay Thai purists more of a "moron pass" for some reason.
(For clarity, none of this is meant as an attack on Muay Thai as a martial art; just that some Nak Muay have a "Dunning-Kruger" problem that doesn't seem to get called out much.)
That sounds like more of a “things dumb people say on the internet” than a Muay Thai problem.
@@RamseyDewey Fair counterpoint!
@@NDOhioanLook Knee can beat Grappling but it's rare look at Masvidal vs Askren, Body Power>>Fists, Elbow, Legs Grappling use the entire body power against the opponent.
@@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying it can't be done, just that it's not some sort of "magic bullet" technique.
@@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lhI mean an uppercut can too but we all make fun of boxers for that argument
You are thinking of Bob Fitzsimmons as the lightest heavyweight but confusing him with Tommy Burns, who I believe was Canadian. Fitzsimmons was born in New Zealand and grew up in England. Maybe he lived in Canada at some point. Burns did lose to Jack Johnson, but Fitzsimmons lost to Jim Jeffries, who retired undefeated without facing Johnson and then came back as the Great White Hope in the original fight of the century where Johnson demolished him.
Burns was the shortest, though. He had crazy reach for his height though. 5'7" with a 74" reach
Ramsey I can go to know the story of the old man who survived both world wars
Haha that's rich. That reminds me of Max Hollowa, guy fights at 145 lbs but walks around at 210. People have no idea.
In boxing today, almost everybody looks the same, both at beginner and the very top levels.
But in older matches from say around the 1990s if I'm right, a lot of fighters had a lot more style and variation to their boxing.
Why the change?
Who are you watching in boxing right now?
@@RamseyDewey I'm not very well-versed but looking at canelo, anthony Joshua, ryan Garcia, etc, they look relatively similar, and look like they try to stay textbook as much as possible. Older boxers seem like they weren't as devoted to staying to the basics, and were a lot more flashy, also they moved around the ring a lot more--the boxers today keep their feet planted most of the time from what I see.
Which older boxers are you comparing them to?
@@RamseyDewey Thomas hearns, naseem, Tyson
The differences between these ones are so much more obvious than with the modern boxers
Interesting. When you said “older”, I was thinking early 1900’s, as opposed to the guys who were fighting when I was growing up!
No way Coach, the 147lb nerd from the 50's had to have much thicker skin and deal with corporal punishment at home and at school. He'd clown stomp a 200lb zoomer who's worst punishment was being put in front of a screen.
The heavy weights in the US are feather weights
Computers, it just made us lazy
Nice answer. Now let's talk about the average woman.😎
Ah the real question. Could the average AMERICAN woman, (170 lbs) beat the snot out of the 1950s untrained, low cardio, 147 lbs, low muscle, MALE . Fine fine, probably not, but what if the nerd male was 5'4 115 lbs, which plenty do exist? A 55 lbs untrained difference, both 5'4.
I don't know, I thought average was 5 foot 9 160. Wouldn't that put you at light weight? Cause you're not gonna fight 10 pounds heavier. You're just gonna cut the 5 pounds. Or even 145 featherweight.
That’s right below welterweight so not lightweight
I think a lot about soil depletion, and all that wasted land that could be used for cattle... We would all be much healthier if we ate more grass fed animals instead of artificial food and plants!
The food industry is evil for sure!
Most dudes I know are 200+ pounds. That said, a lot of them aren't fit.
It’s pronounced: Shang-high
Not in the US. Middleweight at least in UFC.
Hey, I grew up in the 2000s. I wasn't fat but did get squashed by someone who was fat 😅🤣😂. I never understood why in American films, the fat kids get picked on. In my school, fat kids ran the school yard😂 they weren't athletic or fit, but they can squash 😂
The average man is American
As for nutrition I've read about the collagen content, way higher back then. Makes for tough joints and tendons.
America makes up 4.2% of the world’s population.
What do u think about mud wrestling? Also what was thing you dismissed the most or thought was silly band tried it and it worked? The opposite sort of when talk about something being silly
Stupid question
The fat dude got it if they are equally skilled, but i wouldnt count the skinny guy out that simple. If the skinny guy becomes more aggressive and mentally breaks the fat dude up to the point that he gives up. Ive seen it plenty of times in Panama, short guys become vicious like chihuahuas. In fact one of our best boxers, Roberto Duran was known to take fights against bigger opponents and be the bully.
Average man is overweight, not heavy weight
Good to see Ramsey is back on a run.
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@@RamseyDewey Back to making good content.
Did I stop making good content?
@@RamseyDewey LOL. It seemed like it for a while after the big collaboration trip. Your new content is the best yet.
India is now tied with China for population so its not the most accurate to say the average man is han chinese.
Bob Fitzsimmons? Is that the boxer you’re thinking of?
BTW, the average U.S. male is 200 (199.7) lbs and females are 171 (170.8)! Crazy, huh?
UPDATE: I don’t know if these “average” weights are mean, median, or modal averages and can’t find the info that would shine more light, but I’m assuming these are means and therefore can be “weighted” (see what I did there?) or skewed towards higher weight because there are so many very obese folks in the U.S.
Generally speaking though, most of us old timers are observing that Americans are quite heavier than they were just 50 years ago. Just look at old photos and you’ll see. Too much sugar, corn syrup, and empty calories in the diet these days, fewer jobs requiring manual labor, and generally fewer people living active lives - IOW people eat lots of garbage and sit around way too much.
No women are like 140 or 145
@@DENVEROUTDOORMAN where are the women 140 so I can move there
Today has more soil depletion and more endocrine disruptors. That gives the edge to old school men.
Until American football and other sports got bigger during the Cold War, there used to be boxing gyms on every corner in the US. Those American men really knew how to fight.
However, these days jujitsu and mma are getting more common, even though they're so far nowhere nearly as big as boxing used to be a century ago. Those skills are more important than boxing by itself, but the average boxer back then was way more physically fit than today, even though we have better knowledge about nutrition and training.
Size only matters a lot up to a point. A 50 weight difference against a 100 lb opponent isn't the same as a 50 lb weight difference against a 200 lb opponent. The latter match up is a lot closer because a 250 lb fighter will burn out faster trying to keep up with the 200 lb fighter. A smaller guy with strong legs has a lower center of gravity, too. So size can basically be compensated for as long as the smaller guy isn't *too much* smaller.
He's going by America obviously, average women, 5"3, 180. Man 5' 9, 200. Average person, not a training fighter. It's obvious people are walking around bigger, 1960 women 5'3 , 140. Male 5'9 160.
The USA is only about 4% of the world population.
Yes sir. I was referring to America. Sorry didn't specify that. Assumed the question was given by an American. Sounds American. Ty
Wierd how Ramsey is pretending to not know the guy is talking about the average American when he's from america
Neither your nor I know where the viewer is from. I’m a British citizen. I spent my childhood and early adult life in the USA. I have lived half my life in other countries. Only 4% of the world’s population is American. I haven’t lived in the USA for a very long time. American averages are not the first thing to come to mind mid conversation.
@@RamseyDewey while I can only speculate the video creator can actually see where the viewers are from 🤷♂️
Nope.
first bruh
First view!
Pin please?
No little girlie you re not first and got nothing worth saying so you don't count..
And we don't care about little babies clogging comments for attention pathetically