Possible $2 Solution To The ZIPPO Lighters Greatest Flaw...Fuel Evaporation!!!
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
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kind of ingenious. I never understood why Zippo never sold/made something like this standard
Many people have asked that over the years but they just have no need to make the zippo better, the same design has been around since 1932 with only minor changes I would love to see the classic zippo design stay the same BUT I wish they had a factory version similar to this with a sealed bottom of the insert and a fill area with a screw and o-ring to keep it sealed maybe sold as a special version or something they can make a KILLING if they did that even if they were $50 each they would sell...Even at $100 each plenty of collectors and some users would still buy one, haha
cutlerylover I would buy one just for the functionality. I am by no means a collector of zippos(I have a handful), but I personally prefer them over other lighters. Whether it’s the heritage, the ability to service them, or just the sound I love it! Hell, I’m not even a smoker besides the one or two cigars a month.
@@Johnny2Gats Many reasons to enjoy a Zippo )
Cause it's not original
Its not original and also it kinda forces you to buy/use more fluid.
I'm glad they have aftermarket accessories for Zippos yet they keep their originality and let the customer decide what they want. I love their simplicity and durability. Tip: you can keep flints under the felt pad as well 😉👍
better still keep the flint there but if you have one of those tiny aftershave sample bottles , you can keep some extra fuel in there too :)
How do you tell someone is a zippo lighter user?
They smell like gas and are asking you for a light
I have learned to always carry a backup bic if my zippo lets me down...
lol ,veteran zippo user will have spare plastic lighter
I have a keychain canister for some quick recharge. If you use your Zippo correctly(meaning not playing with it constantly), one fill will last you a week. Plus the little canister where you have 3/4 of a full recharge, people are asking ME for a light. For ten long ass years i have been a reliable source of ignition. Zippo all the way.
PS. WAAAAAY too much fluid in the video...
@@Juniek100 tooo much liquid Forsure, supposed to wait for it to drip down the wick then stop. Dude prolly smells like fluid all day every day😂 I keep mine with about half the amount of that and don’t even smoke..vape now but still love my zippo.. and I don’t smell like smoke or gas cuz I don’t act like this guy😂
@@Juniek100but playing with it constantly is just too fun :(
Two things:
You're WAY overfilling your Zippo. You need to stop before you see saturation in the cotton. If you do this and have it in your pocket, it will leak and leave you with a rash on your leg.
I would guess you're supposed to remove the felt pad at the bottom and replace it with the gasket. By packing it on top of the felt, you're squeezing the cotton below and essentially wringing it out, making the lighter hold less fluid.
i always filled my zippo till it ran out the wick not a big deal just light the lighter to burn off the excess I never had a rash from the fluid
I figured that when I saw the fill hole.
At the 5 minutes marks he also states he overfilled them. I believe he did it on purpose to prove the point of "Does the gasket hold the fluid "
Jeff Khoury want me to hold your purse
Jeff Khoury What do you mean by saturation in the cotton?
That's a comically large amount of lighter fluid.
especially for it just to evaporate
"ThE mOrE tHe MaRrIeR"
@@dozi3r that's why he's showing the product id say (evaporation )
that's how you fill a Zippo lol you're supposed to saturate the rayon so it lasts longer....
@@gunfuegosaturate, not drown.
They don’t have this brand in stock, but they have the same thing from YUSUD. I just now bought a metal one from YUSUD.
When I smoked I loved Zippos!
biggest problem for me with leakage in my pocket I would smell like lighter fluid and my leg would get a rash.
@yan chang lol yup
I've never had a problem with leakage.
*Zippo Butane Gas Lighter/ Zippo Arc Lighter = NO PROBLEM*
Jason Abbott just put less lighter fluid if the cotton looks wet then you put to much
Probably because u over filled
It usually just evaporates in a tropical climate, fully saturated (some pouring out upon refill at the bottom, even) in just 4 days. I wish Zippo would fix this almost 100 year evaporation problem and update their design.
I had to buy a pack of these 3 gaskets which has Zorro cotton + wick + 30 flints bundled (I something just like to make this spark for stress relieve- light or spark or fire is soothing).
God bless.
I like this video and it's very interesting . Where the evaporation of the fuel occurs is the seam where the lid meets the body . Common bicycle inner tube works GREAT and Ronsinol fluid is superior to Zippo fluid . An eye dropper bottle holds enough fluid for at least 4 refills . Old Army Ranger . ATB
I bet there will still be a small amount of evaporation through the wick end
Dood Bro it’s not meant to stop it completely, just prolong the process versus having no seal plate at all.
There was a guy who used old used bicycle intertubes for this to make a tight seal around the entire case when not in use. Im guessing the bottom plate leaks a bit due to the door it needed a screw in plug and as for sealing the whole thing well they aint like the peanut lighters and so they actually need an airproof case to fit around them ideally
Yes, even a 1920s style oil lamp will run dry just through evaporation from the wick alone within maybe a month.
@@edi9892 yep your right thats why alot of peanut lighters encapsulate the entire thing air tight. Due the tiny bit they can hold is what they intend to keep till ya use it. you can get sevral short burns out of one fill however its not an ideal lighter for most people. Its an emergency lighter that works in cold conditions where a bic won't work without a few tricks to heat it up due to the nature of liquid butane speaking of encapsulated lighters they got a forever match that works on the same idea . zippo is cool for those who use a lighter alot tough some people dont like the fuel taste everything has its highs and lows a propper sized elastic band around the seam of the zippo is the best your gona do for a classic Zippo unless you do the butane retrofit
Probably
True story: while in the Navy as a flightline crew, one guy was bragging on his new Zippo. After a week came time to refill we all told him the JP-5 we took from the planes for fuel samples was a great replacement. He left it in the lineshack and we filled it everyday without him knowing. For several weeks. After he finally commented it seemed to never run out and how happy he was, we started emptying it especially if he refilled it. For him it never worked got so pissed he gave it away. 🤭
I had a buddy that did the same thing to a coworkers car
I carry Zippo lighters, despite having quit smoking (except while drinking beer on Fridays) a few years back. I keep a regular Zippo insert with extra flint and a can of fluid in the house and all my vehicles, travel and camping bags, and so on for backup, but switched to butane torch-style inserts for general use, mostly because of fuel evaporation. Interesting...
😱 You mean I might actually be able to use the Zippo as an everyday lighter? I love mine, except for the fact that I fill it up and it’s out of fuel within a day, regardless of whether I even use it.
a day? swap your cotton.
Ya I carry one in my edc bag and same story every time I needed it was dry. So I bought a butane insert and never looked back
Some fuel will still escape from the wick end but they do decrease fuel evaporation so you will be able to go a little longer between refuelings. Love your channel bro.
Just what I was thinking.
My old man always kept an extra flint in the spring area.
I use a Zippo daily and it works well for it's intended purpose. Evaporation is a issue for those that don't actually smoke. Granted the Zippo is a high maintenance device needing refueling every other day, wick pulled about 2 weeks and wick replaced 1.5 months. Lighting requires an up/down motion because of the nature of fuel/gas.
A plug/gasket will lessen the flame to the point of not being wind proof. More complication makes for more issues down the road. Simply put the Zippo is a good lighter for it's intended purpose.
So what’s the result?
Though it's a neat idea, I don't have high hopes for it. It may reduce the rate at which the fluid evaporates by sealing up the bottom, but the fluid will still evaporate through the wick. In fact, I'd say most lf the evaporation happens through the wick. The fuel might last longer, but I'm not counting on the difference being large enough to be worth the purchase.
Nice experiment, I can't wait to see the results!
Gotta zippo. Haven't had any problems. Thought about getting the gasket. But I mean it's gunna evaporate, the fuel isn't expensive, and my lighter always clicks over for me. It seems like a nice idea, but I feel zippo did a great job as is.
hey cutlery I'm an old fan from like 7 years ago I used to love your Zippo videos, thanks for making vids and congrats on the sub count
In my experience, after completely filling a Zippo with fluid, it takes about a week for the fluid to completely evaporate. This is if you just let the lighter sit there with absolutely no usage. My Zippo now has a Zippo branded butane insert that doesn't allow fluid evaporation.
Oh. Nice to know I'm not the only one who has evaporation problems. I never even thought to look into it until this showed up in my Recommendations.
The best thing I've found for my Zippo lighter was a butane insert. I hate the taste of lighter fluid and this butane insert solves that. Got mine on Amazon
Practical , but takes away the originality of the zippo feel , fueling up , changing flints is all part of the zippo experience :)
I've never had a problem with the fuel in my older zippos I've had in the past evaporating. It's only been a couple of newer ones I've received as gifts that have been doing that.
Ive used the ranger band method and it held for a month but for an everyday use option this seems as a better option
I have a Douglas field lighter which solved this and has a spare sealed container of fuel built in. Check it out, you can let it sit for years and get it started right away
I always carry my Zippo but hate that the evaporating naphtha irritated my skin and had to refill after a couple of weeks. I bought a Butane insert for the Zippo case and now can carry it for months with no irritation and no loss of fuel. The butane insert always lights.
Jeff, along time ago, you reviewed the plasmatic zippo style. Which instantly caused me to purchase one so i could use the insert in my zippo. At the time i was just getting into collecting, and i have an okay collection now. mainly of rare numbered ones. but the zippo i used this in was my grandads harley zippo, i believe from the 70s, i cant quite remember. This is because it was stolen along with the insert. My grandad now has dementia, and can just about remember me, but i always make sure to bring zippos to show him. and i was wondering if you still had the plasmatic insert, and if youd be willing to sell it as he always found it interesting, and he was the first person i showed it to too. so im hoping it might spark some memory, alike the zippos do.
Thank you
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That's an interesting experiment and possible solution. I am wondering how much fuel/air transfer happens through the wick and the lid, and why Zippo has never corrected the problem (because they sell the fuel?),
05generic there probably is no fix. Other than their new butane insert
So whats the verdict? B4 i buym 🤷🏼♂️🥃
I think it may slow the evaporation of the fuel, but the wick still allows vapors to escape. However, it may very well be an improvement!
Most of the fuel is lost through the wick anyway. Bottom is actualy sealed quite well as it is, you even hear the "pop" when you pull it out. So i call BS, this gadget will not help at all.
I've once wrapped the zippo with electrical tape around the hinge and seam where it opens. and i was able to light it after several months when i unwrapped it. But most of the fuel was gone anyway. I beleive if you can find zippo-style lighter which has screw-on cap with o-ring, it will work for much longer time, but it will be awkward to use.
@@harviecz older zippos don’t have that *pop* as they are worn down, so they’d leak more from the bottom than a brand new one
I never really had an issue with the evaporation. I carry a Zippo as my main lighter and use it for most things I need a lighter for and I carry a Bic as a backup in case my Zippo runs dry or to let other people use it in case they either don't like the smell of a Zippo or they decide to walk off with my lighter.
Best. Video. Ever. I've never smoked, but have always loved Zippo lighters. I stopped carrying them when one leaked fuel inside my pocket and onto my thigh, giving me a nice chemical burn. If this thing can keep the fuel in, then yee ha!!
overfilled :)
So what was the result? I'm interested as I bought these gaskets also.
It looks like he ultimately used different Zippos in test, but here is a follow up: ruclips.net/video/DfLx2PTiK24/видео.html
I just bought a brand new Zippo in the last year or so and I've been pretty disappointed how shoddy they're making the insides now. The cotton batting used to FILL UP the tank to the point that the absorbent end-pad just barely fit back in. Now there's a solid quarter inch of extra space at the end... this video just educated me as to why. Apparently Zippo is manufacturing their lighter to take this evapo-trapper device without making it such a tight fit.
Makes me wonder why they don't just create it themselves... They'd probably sell a lot more lighters lol.
@@Camelotsmoon Because Zippo wants you using more fuel. I bet Zippo makes more money on fuel than lighters.
Yo, you're supposed to take the felt pad out and discard it. That's why you had to force the orange rubber plug in. The way he did it the fluid won't absorb as well. The flint hold down screw was not seated properly. I'm surprised no one caught that.
Yeah, I was wondering why he left the felt pad in. It had looked like he may have punches a hole through it or something.
Did you ever end up giving us an update on these?
Same wick in mine for the last 30 years and it works fine.
You Can Also zeal the case with a piece of rubber from a bicycle, it keeps most air from leaking into the case.
I use both. Zippos last about a week and a half. Still sucks. I just bought a gallon of white gas and fill it up every week.
I have multiple flints and a extra wick inside my zippo. Nice product.
Definitely let us know if it works. I really wanna carry a zippo with my edc. If the gasket doesn’t work then I may try that Thunderbird insert. Have you reviewed the Thunderbird insert?
He has some older videos on them I believe. The fuel in those lasts indefinitely and i think is a much-needed upgrade. My Zippo keeps fuel for months until it runs out from me playing with it, haha.
I don't have Thunderbird brand but I use a double jet in an Armor series case for edc and its been excellent. They don't always fit perfectly depending on brand and quality but they're reliable and don't run out
I got a monogrammed slim series at my best friends wedding and I'd kill for a gasket or an insert for it
Darth Croll Ok, thanks for letting me know. I saw nick shabazz’ review on the Thunderbird insert, but I’ll watch his video as well.
Josh Rowlison It’s butane fueled?
Can you pin a link here to the follow up video? I would like to know how long they lasted?
same here
I feel like it evaporates from the top not the bottom... good idea though
It does threw both the zippo just doesn't perfectly seal anywhere . they could up their game with some well placed o ring groves with o rings . may not sound like rocket science but apparently it is.
@Bobo yes thats why they worked so hard at makeing it the only airline aproved lighter and fuel still they have other sellers of naptha fuel
@Bobo now that is the cold hard truth...accept it people.
Cut a piece of bicycle inner tube and place it over the outside of the Zippo. Roll the inner tube down when you need to use the lighter. Roll it back up when you are done. Mine keeps the fluid for about a month that way. (Even out here in the dry higher altitude of the Rocky Mountain States.)
Eric White you’re an idiot. Other gases don’t work the same as the liquid fuel does.
At altitude or in freezing temperatures propane and butane stop working.
Zippos and MSR gas stoves are the only sources of fuel that are used on Mount Everest summits.
Offhand this seems like a good idea, there's nothing wrong with trying to make the most out of your fuel. I've come at this problem from another angle, I use inexpensive naptha gas in my Zippo, I bought a gallon of Brand X camp stove fuel years ago for about 10 bucks and I'm still using that same gallon, so fuel economy isn't an issue, cost-wise, but there's still nothing wrong with trying to maximize your fuel economy.
I don't smoke but I believe in always have one or two sources of fire on me and they do come in handy more than folks who don't carry a fire source might realize. I like flipping open a Zippo but as a non-smoker who just wants the fire to be there if I need it I am annoyed with the rapid fuel loss of Zippos. I found something the other day at a local Walmart (haven't seen it at all local Wally locations, just the one) that I like. It looks like a small Zippo body complete with the lid, etc. but inside it is house a mini Bic lighter. When I need to refill I will just replace the mini Bic. Not only does it have at least some portion of the 'cool' factor of a Zippo but it also solves a couple of the problems sometimes inherent in Bic lighters. Because it is enclosed the fuel button cannot be accidentally depressed allowing the fuel to leak out and there is less chance of the striker wheel or flint being wet and not sparking when I need it. I also carry a small peanut lighter on my keychain. It uses the same fluid as a Zippo and is filled in a similar manner. However, I haven't filled it in six or eight months. I just checked to be sure before I posted this and it lit right up.
Is there a follow up of this video? I’m curious to see the results. :)
It looks like he ultimately used different Zippos, but here is a follow up: ruclips.net/video/DfLx2PTiK24/видео.html
Great video thanks for sharing but I would never tighten with a screwdriver finger tighten only those threads will strip out.
Agree. Also, use the case or lid if you must.
A genuine zippo lighter fits very snugly in its shell. I doubt this'll make a big difference to the rate of evaporation, especially as the top side isn't sealed. I think the thing that'll make the biggest difference is to not keep it in a pocket close to your body so it isn't heated. That's my prediction. Now I need to find the results of your experiment.
So what were the results?
Can't find the follow up video, how well did it work?
Is plastic piece a replacement for top felt pad, or added too felt pad as you did? Resulting in tight fit. Maybe exact fit replacing pad rather than adding too it?
Not bad, but better create a gasket for the parts above. Much fuel seems imho evaporate over the wick anyways so the lid is more important but of course much more difficult.
Still a nice idea though, especially the flint storage.
I, too, have been frustrated w/the fuel evap. I don't smoke so even though edc it's not for that purpose. That said, I don't have occasions to use it much but still carry it in a great leather belt holder. By using a ranger band I can extend the time to empty by about half. The test I would love to see you do is fill both and never use. Just test it every (name a day of the week) week and see how many weeks you can go before dry. Test would be to just see if it ignites. Don't need the 60 second burn for my purposes (or yours) as you stated you don't use it everyday anyway so i assume you don't smoke and light up 10 or more times a day. To truly test for the evaporation aspect....I think you should only light it to see if it will light. If you keep it going for 60 sec. it kind of defeats the purpose of an evap. test? Thanks! and I agree the extra spot for the flint is great.
Wrapping a bit of Teflon tape around the end of the lighter (the side with the cotton) works great for me
That's pretty kool, if it actually shows significant lack of fuel evaporation I might have to get some
I stick the nossle into tnt hole of the pad and fill mine that way. It's easier than lifting it to me. I'm just happy that I finally got to use mine after roughly 4 months
Good day. I saw your videos. I have 3 Zippo. Please were can I find this red plastic for my Zippo? I come from Athens Greece. Thank you.
Nice test one of the reasons I don't have any Zippos
Subbed. I periodically buy myself a zippo and even gave one away in the box to a good friend as a bday gift (everyone loves them, makes a great gift) so anyway, in my collection, I have old ones, new ones etc the new ones have that little hole in the bottom of the cotton that old ones didn't have and I know from experience that little hole contributes to fuel evaporation, all my new ones run out faster (when not using)
I love the concept. Ill have try the gasket with with a ranger band. Itll probably still evaporare but take a lot longer.
This is a great thing, if it does work. There is also a butaine insert I have found online, that fits in the zippo casing, that I got and use. The butaine does last quite a long time too. If this gasket does work, I may switch back to the lighter fluid insert. Thanks for this video.
Damn if those work that should be a default inclution on all zippo lighters. Love the spare flint cubby
best way to prevent fuel evaporation is to cut up the thumb off of a nitrile glove so you have a 1-1.5" sleeve. slip that over the zippo case and roll it down to use and roll back up to seal. the fuel lasts for weeks, and i use the lighter multiple times a day to light my tobacco pipes. another benefit is it will help lessen the scratches to the zippo if you keep it in your pocket with other things like keys or loose change.
I think a gaskets would be the standard for this type of Zippo if they just had a bigger hole, like as big as possible so it takes the least amount of time to fill. In fact they could just remove that flint hole since you can already put flint in the cotton. But the price is certainly right, you get a few for around $6 or more.
They make some really cool zippo logo plastic flames that fit right where the wick goes.
@cutlerylover So what was the result? Is it any good?
Interesting idea. I winder about the evaporation from the wick, though. I’ve toyed with the idea of using an Amish mix in my Zippo. Rather than 100% naphtha, which is as light as gasoline and evaporates just as fast, mixing the naphtha with kerosene. The naphtha would make it light quickly, but the kerosene evaporates much more slowly.
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How did that work out bro just got a few zippos and was wondering about this to
Something about the smell of a fresh Marlboro lite with my zippo lighter back in the day. A distinct smell, that you never forget. I quit 31 yr ago.
I use a piece of bicycle inner-tube around where the lid and body meet works great.
is there a product like this for the top part of the lighter? I feel like as much or more fluid is evaporating off the wick and through the seem.
Bought and use these. Not a fantastic product but my lighter does hold fuel for about an extra 3-4 days making this product worth it in my personal non professional opinion.
Have you tried the gas powered inserts you can buy on amazon. They basically turn your zippos into bics. I think they're called thunder something. They are a bit expensive though.
@@sirnuggets9666 Never heard of it. I'll check it out though.
@@willywood6508 found it, its called the thunderbird its on amazon look it up
Not seeing a follow up video for this. Did it work or what?
Since i switch to permanent matches, i’m rid of this problem too. I know it’s about Zippo but its 25 years to late for me. Thanks anyway. I leave a like.
WTF is a permanent match?
Did we ever make a follow up video on the Zippo time test with the controlled lighter with no gasket? Curious 😮
I love Zippos, and have one for around the house, for when we do campfires in our backyard, but unfortunately this is a serious flaw. For those of us who do winter activities like camping, this problem is a very big deal.
Just bring some fluid with you
Like it but I bet it doesn’t make much difference but I would like to know because I think most los will evaporated from the wick
cool!! how come no one has thought of this before also the since word you were looking for is control .
What was the result of the experiment? Did this work or not?
Had 1 for years. Dosnt stop evaporation
after watching this video I wanted to subscribe to your channel but I was subscribed already lol 😂😂😂
Do you know that lighter fluid, is Naphtha thinner? It is a LOT cheaper by the gal.
Prolly not nearly as easy to fill a zippo with tho, but I might check it out.
Refill your lighter fluid bottle???????????? Then Fill The Lighter!
Coleman fuel works good too.
@Bobo I use petrol in my peanut. A friend of mine who is a smoker and has a zippo, fills his up with avgas from the little glass bowl under the wing of a cessna (it's there to let the water out).
Uras Tus 😂 not sure avgas is a good idea. Avgas is also known as 100LL, and ‘LL’ stands for low-lead. So it’s essentially high-octane, leaded petrol. Not something you really want to breathe in 😬
YES
I thought it, we've all thought it but someone finally did it.
really sucks how you didnt include how long they lasted for in this video...not even in the description?
Donde venden ese plástico protector buen video grasias 👍🏼
That is one practical little gizmo, gonna order a few
That's neat I'd like to see how long it lasts too since i don't smoke
This is the main reason why I don't carry a zippo regularly anymore.
They have a brass bottom now with a nice hatch for the fluid
just a thought. you could put the inserts on a scale and tare. fill with same ammount of fluid. weigh in housing full, and just weigh daily to see which goes empty first.
is there an update vid on how well that gasket performed? please leave me the link thx
Paused the video before I reached the end, so I could make a prediction. My guess would be that most of the evaporation actually happens via the top, through the wick. The base of the insert is already shoved at the bottom of the case, fairly cut off from the open air as it is. I would think that to be a success, you would need to enclose both the top and bottom of the insert. Or rather, the zippo case itself would need to have an air-tight seal... Could be wrong, just my guess! :)
Update - Reached the end of the video and discovered that I paused for no reason =P I am now clicking the next, REDO video haha
Haha this is why I prefer the old "ronson standard" lighters instead. Tight cap over the wick fill hole sealed with a cap that screws on. Lasts way longer than any zippo I own in terms of keeping fuel without use.
how come you didnt take out the felt before installing the rubber gasket
He should have taken out the felt
Can't wait for the results.
Is there a follow-up video? I couldn’t find it.
I think it will still evaporate out the top where the wick is, you might get a bit longer out of the one with the gasket tho but i still think it will evaporate, just a little slower 👍🏴
yes very possible/probable , Im curious if this does extend the life of the fuel or not, well see...It might show how much fuel is evaporated through the insert base and out the case as apposed to through the wick....
Yeh id say you will get a little longer out the one with the gasket, it will be interesting to see the difference, to be honest i think you will lose about 75% of what evaporates just out the top tho, hope to see a update
Hey, your cotton top piece seems like it sits lower than all my zippos. Should I take the cloth piece you usually lift to fill OFF before adding this? Seems like that would help you refuel easier with this plastic piece in, too.
Just got mine today.
Haven't had time to see fuel consumption comparison.
However, did find that in a Zippo insert, it's a tight fit. It will fit in a Japan Continental/LDL model, not as tight of fit due to more rounded style but will seal enough to keep fluid from going to the bottom of the case. For those with that question.
any update?