Commander Cards That Used to be Good
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
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We are looking at commander cards that used to be good, cards from the earlier days of commander, we're talking 2010-2015, before wizards was producing all this directly for commander product. These cards have fallen out of favor and aren't as good as newer options, but they used to be close to auto-includes! Hope you enjoy our trip down memory lane!
Recounted and got 78 plus the 5 vivid lands
So that is 79 Beezy was right!
Noice
I like your content. The only thing I would ask if you could show the cards that you recommend. Not everyone knows the cards by the name.
Yes
@@milad8611 indeed
Krishan Grip is worth running entirely to see the sad look on Mr. Counterspell's face when you blow up his wincon and he can't respond.
When people play optimally grip is auto include split second is ungodly crucial
Exactly. Very Meta dependant
@@trashtronics1700 when people play powerfully it's too slow.
@@andrewp979 you still see it a lot in high level edh aside from lame cedh, which mainly consists out of the same people that EDH wanted to avoid before MTG started to milk it.
@@TheChill001 honestly, nothing you have said there is true.
I feel like maybe this is more of a "Cards that used to be auto-includes" vs. "used to be good". Many of these seemed like they are still used pretty frequently, but no longer have super clout.
Yeah I still run Capsize in at least 3 decks and it's fantastic
ya, two years later and im still using some of these.
The more I watch your videos, the more I realize that I personally don't find high power commander fun. I like the variance of lower power commander. I like the combat step mattering. I don't like winning games the same way every game.
You all have great content. Thanks for making me realize the style of commander I like the most.
same
I have PTSD from It that Betrays because back in the day I used to have a casual ramp deck that played this card and someone would always steal it from me and attack me since it was "flavorful"...
Lmfao that is a great flavor win!
The fact that harmonize exists is what pisses me off.
If green can get targeted removal out the ass and unconditional card draw, why can't white get some too?
Why do we have to play mentor of the meek, a garbage card, just to get some card draw.
Green's two biggest weaknesses, lack of removal and card draw, have been removed entirely, so why does white still get punished?
Harmonize was specifically printed as a colorshifted version of Concentrate for the Planar Chaos set. At this point, green has crazy good card draw tied to creatures, but Harmonize is unconditional because it was a blue card literally just made green as part of the set's big gimmick.
It's a year old Comment but hey white is getting there!
I started playing EDH around 2013 and I remember there being so many good stuff decks around that time, playing all the haymakers mentioned in this video. Every deck seemed to play the same wincons and answers. It felt like such a daunting format to get into, because nobody ever had any of these cards for trade. Nowadays decks feel much more diverse and as a consequence it's much easier to trade cards for EDH.
Gotta disagree specifically on Krosan Grip, Split Second allows Krosan Grip to work much better on artifacts and enchantments with activated abilities, so that they can't activate them in response to the removal. It's not what it used to be, but I think it certainly still has a place in EDH! With that said, great video. Keep it up!
We mention that pretty all these cards have homes but just aren’t as good as they once were. Thanks for kind words
@@NitpickingNerds grip is still an auto include
@@tatsuhirosatou5513 it really isn't though. In most situations costing less mana is going to be better than split second. Three Mana for 1-for-1 artifact/enchantment removal just not that good any more.
@@HomeCookinMTG maybe if I'm blowing up ramp but if I'm trying to not lose to combo like top or aetherflux res. Split second is a necessity
@@HomeCookinMTG I think the argument is the power level of your play group. Krosan is an auto include in metas that run food chain, winter orb, (that one red theros enchament that combos off the graveyard). These cards tend to just combo too easily and without krosan you usually get countered out. In middle to lower end casual games where these cards and combos are too expensive to see krosan ends up being too expensive or overkill.
I think people undervalue harmonize. Its true that green has a lot of cards that just draw more, but if I'm not also in blue I want that harmonize in there because its protection from being blown out. If I'm low on cards and get wrathed harmonize doesn't ask me to have a big creature or a big board, it just gets me back into the game. Just run it and a bunch of the other options, its not like your deck is going to suffer from too much card draw.
Krosan Grip has a home. It has helped me stop Sensei's Divining Top so many times.
It is the only way to answer top
@@Gulpathfinder they get the activation they did already but if dies and goes to the graveyard
u can always kill top in response to the draw ability, and if ur worried about the look at the top 3, id say there are generally scarier things
Thats a cEDH meta
@@aidankeyes5526 These guys play cEDH exclusively while pretending not to because they know cEDH players are a very tiny minority and they'd have no subs.
I’m coming back after not playing for a few years and cried exactly 79 times during this video
I finally cut the sick textless harmonize from my decks recently, hardest decision I've ever made.
The more of your content that I watch, the more I realize I agree with both of you. It's easy to forget that this is a list of cards that are outclassed and not cards that are useless (for the most part anyway), but with that difference in mind I really can't argue for any of the cards mentioned. I'm going to start using Arcanis again though; he's one of the earlier cards that I had, so he feels super nostalgic, and I kinda want him to be a pet card because he's so bad lol
Playing the cards you want to play is way more important than winning in edh
I started playing Commander in 2012. This video is depressing and also true.
The format is an ever evolving beast
I feel the same way too! I figure eventually we will have throwback commander formats. Like commander 2016 everything before the partner commanders.
The format is fundamentally broken and basically unplayable now.
I feel you. So many cards I used to play so much in this list haha.
You guys have become one of my new favorite channels, really been enjoying your content. Keep up the good work!
Very glad to hear that! Hope you continue to enjoy our stuff :)
Regarding Skyclave Relic:
Brudiclad is a cool deck for it. If you kicker the relic you then can make all your tokens into indestructible mana rocks which is fantastic in my opinion.
Brudiclad loves janky stuff like that 😂
Steel Hellkite and Duplicant are still relevant in a mono red, mono red struggles with creature removal. in addition Duplicant can go well in a flicker deck especially if you're playing Ranar the ever watchful, when you flicker you get 2 separate exile triggers getting yourself 2 spirits.
I still love running "It That Betrays" because spells that say an equivalent of "win the game" are super boring to me and they almost never lead to memorable games, because the game just ends right then and there. And nothing is more fun that killing people with the things you just forced them to sacrifice.
pair it with Cataclysm ;)
I dunno chief
I absolutely love getting off a doomsday combo
Whether it be doomsday altar of bolas aetherflux black sun
Doomsday thoracle
Hivemind opposition agent doomsday
Etc
Its VERY satisfying to combo off and see your engine work as intended
You guys should totally do a video on the best planes walkers! It’ll be a challenge seeing as so many just aren’t worth any attention.
Wanted to post this. This list of S class planeswalkers. Poop tier would also be interesting
We have done “top 10 planeswalkers” fairly recently! We might get a tier list done eventually
Ha, if you think Capsize is bad, try getting down to 1 vs 1 with a Talrand deck using it. It's not fun, it's not fun at all.
Edit: I once tried to get a guy to consider pulling Temple of the False God out of his 28 land Esper deck. He insisted it gave it real gas when the games went long, and he hit +5 lands. I moved on with my life. I use the card in a 45 land Tatyova deck, where it's one of the combo pieces that make up almost the entire deck, it's almost all combo or tutor.
Awesome work guys. The devotion to the game and format you guys have is very apparent, and greatly appreciated by the viewers. Thanks for putting so much effort into these extremely informative videos:)
Thank you! We really try and communicate our real life opinions, and we follow our own advice!
@@NitpickingNerds no problem guys, always happy to give out well-deserved praise
I think that Mentor of the Meek is still a staple in white/boros/even some mardu decks, precisely because there are no better options for this effect.
It is sad 😢
I run mentor in my daughter Kudro deck, it does its thing for sure
Its still a side option in my kykar deck. The spirits can pay for themselves so it turns into draw.
I play with soo many of these cards. :'( and you are right
You don’t even have to stop playing with them :D
Think the commandzone would have something to nitpick with claims of the best. There are 4 channels I watch for my magic fix and you guys are definitely one of them.
Tell the Command Zone we challenge them to 2 head giant for the title of best!
It is a crime that necro ever got slept on. EDIT: Mainly because it was slept on when it came out. We failed to learn from history!
Worst card in ice age! 😂
The thing that makes me the most sad is, you guys keep ripping on not caring about combat. All of my decks care about combat :(
I have 16 decks and all but 4 absolutely care about combat
Eric Wollam yeah, lol - I'm the same, lots of combat decks with lots of answers. It's amazing how often I beat the combo/aristocrats/control/landfall decks and then the pilots yell about combat being silly and irrelevant, lol! Love it.
Combat decks can be very strong. It just takes a bit more work
My favorite replacement for relic is scavenger grounds. It's a spell in your land slot!
It's nice tech, you can even pack a few extra deserts for more exiles
I agree with all of these except krosan grip. I play in an awful meta of sac outlets and counter spells😂
Grip is insanely good on paper, but despite knowing about it I never end up putting it in any decks. It really is just that it costs 3 mana. I can see how a meta with lots of on-stack interaction would promote that card though.
I was thinking that same. Krosan grip is so good in my meta.
Same my meta is pretty competitive and the split second mechanic is worth the payout when everyone is running blue
With most of these cards meta can change how playable they are.
@@abderianagelast7868 i mean interaction heavy metas hate it even more because
I could run a 3 mana split second card
Or i could swan song your response to my natures claim
Would agree! You guys are one of my new favorites!
So glad to hear it!
Great Video. Some constructive feedback, I think you would be better served if you did each of these categories in separate videos and showed and explained replacements for each card. Just a lot easier to digest and easier to go back to recall information. Keep up the great work!
Fortunately, creatures are still super relevant in my meta. Spore Frog is the most hated card in my Tayam and Muldrotha decks.
Edit: I'm really enjoying your topics and takes. You two have quickly become my favorite source of MtG content. My only gripe; I wish you would show the images of the non-topic cards that get mentioned so I don't have to look them up.
Cheers!
Venser, the Sojourner is one of the greatest spells in my Brago, King Eternal deck. I minus one it to make my creatures unblockable. I swing with Brago, blink it. Then I plus one it in my second main phase to blink one permanent (Can also be lands)
Praetor’s Grasp an excellent card even today. It can steal away a wincon from any opponent.
I know this vid is about 9 months old, but "people are sleeping on necropotence"?!? I took a break in 2012, heard EDH is huge, got back in a couple months ago.. and this video is like watching a fallen commemoration tribute.. sadge. I remember a discussion with my playgroup before we stopped, about the future of EDH and how Necropotence is gonna be $100+ even with 10 reprints lmao
Love this channel. Most of the content is a primer for what I missed in the past 8-9 years. Keep up the great work!
@Nitpicking_Nerds
So, I definitely run wurmcoil engine, duplicant and it that betrays in my Feldon deck.
Am I evil?
Yes, I am
Yes!! Finally another feldon player. Those cards are a house in that deck and the value pays off
I play solemn in a green deck: Animar
I play solemn in my glissa the traitor, trading post, birthing pod, bow of nylea, mimic vat
My Muldrotha deck enjoys sad robot, multiple times even.
Steel hellkiye is amazing with Kalia because you do get immediate value and can kill their entire board almost immediately.
Started playing EDH around 2009, I miss those times 2009-2013. Still like EDH, but the old days were more iconic to me. I have tried to rebuild my decks, and my favorite decks my friends played, but they just arent up to par with newer decks. Cards get outclassed. Fair video yall made. Alot of good points.
Great video guys i used to use some of these now I add other better cards keep up the great work
Concordance Crossroads was definitely on people's radar, I just cost too much because reserved list... When primal surge was printed CC tripled in price.
Crossroads isnt reserved list.
I’ve always disliked Simulacrum, but I’ll concede that it does fit in my Jarad deck.
man, I’d love there to be a mtg newspaper like the one on the thumbnail
So much nostalgia in one video
"Oh no, Kokusho! at least it's not Chulane..." That joke cracked me up 😂😂😂
I just saw venser double ultimate for the win on neonmushroom, and works wellwith niv reborn
What level of EDH are we talking about here? I still see plenty of these cards in various stores.
I assume they only play at fully optimized, like just below cedh level.
@S V you probably should check out some other videos, like BZs empyrial archangel decktech. You come across as a casual-elitist jerk
@S V they are just stating the fact they got outclassed by card printed in the last half decade. and as i mentioned, they still play those janky underpowered, but fun cards (like empyrial archangel). get off your high horse
Really like the longer videos!
I feel like when I make decks nowadays, I have to force myself to use the "lesser" powered cards (ex. Corrupted Grafstone instead of Arcane Signet). Wonder how long it's going to be before I have to net deck everything
Well, you’ll never have to net deck if you don’t want to!
Truly depends on the people you play with. The group I typically play with really does only have decks at the highly optimized level, so even if I’m trying not to netdeck, it feels like I am
Capsize is hilarious in a Kalamax deck with Seedborn Muse.
The amount of times I've seen people misspell kroger grip in these comments
I think Arcanis is still a niche card in the right deck. Besides Wizard tribal, he's good to discard in Mairsil the Pretender, then exile him with Mairsil for 4 mana. And since you should be playing ways to give Mairsil haste, you should be able to tap to draw 3 right away. I play Akroma's Memorial in my Rienne deck because the green helps to ramp into it, it gives all of my creatures pro-red in addition to haste since I play Chain Reaction and Blasphemous Act. But it also helps me with the creatures that I recast after getting them back after one of my many board wipes. Baloths + Avenger are still good for landfall decks, but that's about it.
My play group has been burnt out on CEDH because of slow progression its a constant week to week back and forth as far as which deck wins the most .. So we came up with our on rules no more then 100$ and no infinite combos . ( obviously when not ply CEDH ) and a lot of these cards are powerhouses in our budget format and its been so much fun being able to play cards again that other wise are pretty bad in higher power games
Only deck I love Stell Hellkite in is in xenagos god of revels. Haste does a huge difference.
Praetor's Grasp is still played in a lot of cedh decks. Plus it doesn't make much sense that it'd be worse with the introduction of Gonti. In fact it gets better with Gonti because it serves as redundancy to that deck's strategy.
Also, Steel Hellkite? It's a generic mana sinking 5/5 for 6 with flying that can scale in damage and can pick apart someone's board. I don't know of any other creature that comes close to replacing that kind of role. At the very least it's solid in creature-based decks that don't have access to removal.
Venser shaper savant did see a resurgence thanks to a lot of wizard decks getting traction
Would like to preface with, I love the content and really agree with the deck building ideas.
It's interesting that creatures are valued over enchantments and artifacts for the same effects (which I agree with). I just have to go the opposite direction so many times because my pod is pretty board wipe happy 😂 maybe I should build some graveyard shenanigan or flicker decks... As it is now, enchantments and artifacts mostly stay on the battlefield, but creatures go away within a round or two.
I still run Steel Hellkite. But it's usually in a deck that could possibly easily afford to cast it OR a deck where you could cheat it out. It is really good in my Karn, Silver Golem deck, where I can possibly cast it on the end step before my turn due to Shimmer Myr or Vedalken Orrerry.
Seeing this makes me wanna play 2012 EDH with tucking and everything. Good times.
I Love this channel you guys have helped me with many Deck building options and advice keep up the great work guys.
Thank you! Glad to make your magic experience more enjoyable!
I remember back in 2013 one of the crazy curves that I had a hard time beating (with boros) was rampant growth, into explosive vegetation, into boundless realms, untap and cast genesis wave for thirteen lol.
just wanna say that i prefer krosan grip because my play group has an urza stacks player and its the only way to really stop that deck from going off
You know you can play with fleshbag marauder and all them other cards in the same deck because they are all black and do the same thing. Which is good. If this is your thing. So you get more copies of the same card in your "I'm gonna get whatever thing you sacrifice"-deck. Effin good card.
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SEVENTY-NINE?! WHOA. This'll be a nice hour.
beans!!!!!!!!
BEANS!!!
Y'all!
Funny that they marketed the "box of rocks" Secret Lair as a "must-have" for Commander players, and then it's full of obsolete rocks such as Darksteel Ingot and Gilded Lotus...The only good one is Arcane Signet :)
It often feels like they don’t know the format lol 😂
Venser is my mono blue commander. Got to use him in a 2v2v2! I don't get to bring him out ever but bounce is my favorite thing to do in mono blue. It all started with my mono blue land destruction deck in standard. I agree with everything they say too bout him. Just thought I'd share :)
*looks at Meren deck
"Why you make me play BAD cards?"
Relic of progenitus is pretty good in volo decks so that you can run a few that match creature type in a sac splash variant
Liliana, Dreadhorde General completely blows Harvester of Souls out of the water.
Power Creep at its finest!
This channel is also suffering from power creep
skyshroud claim is the poster child for 4 mana ramp spells for me. getting those lands untapped is huge
I think your wrong if your playing meren or muldrotha type decks and aren't playing spore frog. I get that combat isn't what determines much it still saves your life at times and is almost free. One mana and gives you death triggers and can save your life several times in a single game
Remember when decree was on the best board wipes list. The good ol days 😢😄😢
It’s sooo cool and splashy
One day this type of video will be talking about how Grey Merchant use to be good
Best commander channel in the world! 🥰
Too nice!!! :P
Krosan Grip is extremely good for removing artifacts that are normally impossible to remove with artifact destruction. Playing a graveyard deck? Stop your opponent from popping that Tormod's Crypt by Krosan Gripping it. They can't even remove your GY in response.
Venser, Shaper Savant is sometimes still played in cEDH, he's a win condition with infinite mana combos that involve repeated flicker.
i run disallow and voidslime in mimeoplasm it help me protect my graveyard!.
I just clicked "play all" so i guess that's how i'm gonna spend my day ;)
Woo! I’m sure it was a great day!
I think the morale of the story is less that those cards got bad but more that the decks had to get more synergetic. Wormcoil or Myr Battlesphere e.g. is still totally playable if you pay 0 mana thanks to, say Saheeli. Coincidentally, decks that cheat mana cost by one way or another (reanimator, artifacts, things involving Ashnod's altar) have become my favourites as they still allow me to play some of those splashy spells mentioned
Hate to see how the format has evolved, the power creep is real and has taken with it some of the casual aspects off the format, I have lived it in my group how some decks have just fallen off, and lost any actual chance to take a game.
That's what happens when cards are being printed specifically for this format. I liked the format because there were no cards specifically for it; that way you ran into interesting and underplayed cards that didn't really make it in standard or extended. Even though there are many more cards now than there were back then, it seems the decks have become increasingly homogenized and boring.
Mana reflections is still a staple in most of my decks simply for doubling on things like Nykthos, plus unlike Nyxbloom is a creature and subject to more forms of removal.
You guys should post your deck lists and maybe a video of cards that are playable cause this is hilarious
All these cards are playable just as good as they once were.
Great video and super nostalgic and sad to see how much EDH has changed from when I started playing. Some of my favorite generals either cant compete anymore or are so well known they're easily countered at a table
It's a little sad about the decks as a whole, nobody likes when their general gets worse :(
LOL Me and my rinse and repeat land destruction/Removal abuse with Acidic Slime, Capsize...I feel so old.
Awakening Zone is my budget option instead of Bitter Blossom in my Korvold, gets me mana and sacrifice fodder.
When you use the ''Pokedex'' bestiary with Guardian project, Soul of the Harvest, Beast Whisperer in the same deck: IT LIKES TO DRAWS ALL THE CARDS
Is it OK to typically hate Sorceries?
Sad Robot gets sadder :(
LOL My buddy loved Praetor counsel till I wheeled their massive hand and milled them out
Arcanis: Agreed never liked that card.
Doubling Season: My Ghave deck says hello.
Praetor Grasp is a great card for control, check their deck pull out something crazy for later BUT your are right I have stolen many Sol Rings with this card LMAO
Birthing Pod vs the new Pyre of Heroes?
Great choices, I think most of these cards fall in the over hyped EDH card staples category. I also think that these cards are less threatening now a days due to power creep, which can allow a player to slide under the radar and not be the focus of other players immediate ire using them, ex: using Awakening Zone instead of Bitter Blossom: People don't like 1/1 fliers to 0/1 mana sac dorks and leave you alone #PlayerPsychology :P
Cabal Coffers will be on this list by the end of 2021.
„Lands are the least relevant thing to kill...“ that does sound right - saying that as someone with a jund/ sultai lands meta
I wish i could cut my harvester of souls but I got the timeshifted version of it and it looks so cool :(
krosan grip is amazing solely for split second. it can stop instant speed win cons in green
How often are people playing win cons that involve artifacts and enchantments, that you couldn't just interrupt with natures claim? I'd assume that you are talking about two card combos, and so you can just destroy it in response to them playing the other combo piece?
If you are saying that they play a creature first and then play their artifact/enchantment win con, well creature removal is even more common in edh.
PS. This is exactly what they were talking about referring to confirmation bias. 1 out of 10 times it might do something like that and feel really good. Which in your mind will make up for the fact that the other 9/10 times it was a worse natures claim. You will forget the times when the game slowly spiraled away because your artifact removal was too expensive to play, since its a small detail with often unseen consequences. Or you will play the expensive removal and be unable to play the creature you wanted that turn as well, also a small detail that might be missed. But you will see when you don't lose the game once, and that one time will be enough to make you completely forget the bad times.
@@trumpetperson11 i play natures claim, natural state, abrupt decay and and vandalblast too (i play in a very stax heavy meta) but if their is a an artifact you dont want them activating, krosan grip is king. in a range of power levels, it stops food chain, vadalken orrery, tormods cript, phyrexian altar, alter of dementia, sensais divining top and oblivion stone. not to mention the fact it cant be countered also makes it great for key threats like natures will, rhystic study, sword of feast and famine, mystic remora, lightning greaves, sylvan library, druids repository, carpet of flowers, jeweled lotus, skull clamp, stony silence, torpor orb tons of other stax cards that they would normally counter. the thing is 9 times out of 10 artifacts and enchantments are the best cards in the deck
@@moxopal675 You can't stop someone from activating a card on their turn unless they inexplicably pass on priority... That's not what krosan grip does. Krosan grip's main power comes from being uncounterable.
@@alslayer18 if you are referring to tormods cript and oblivion stone that I used for example. Usually the best thing you can do with them is not use them automatically but hold them over people's heads. With the alter cards, to win, you need to pass priority unless the field is super stacked. Same does with food chain. That being said I knew About holding priority but I should have made that more clear in my examples
@@moxopal675 Kind of? I just meant that many of your examples were of cards that your opponents will activate immediately, but will need to wait for it to resolve, before trying to activate it again. You could just as easily use nature's claim or any of the other cheaper destroy artifact/enchantment spells. The corner cases where you could justify krosan grip over cheaper cards would be more for other things you mentioned like tormod's crypt or oblivion stone, sure. The more sweeping answer to point to would be to just note that its uncounterable though.
3:25 if you care about getting Blown out By a counter to any of the things I just listed, before they combo off to win, get Grip. Better to pay a bit more to make sure you stop the treat then to play something that can get counted by 95% of all counters played in a game.
Well we aren't looking to avoid counters per say is the thought we have :)
@@NitpickingNerds Then that would mean you are not looking to stop their gaming winning combo. Remember that even Opponents tapping out to play their combos doesn't mean that they don't have a counter in head to play to play for free.
These cards are playable, if you are intentionally powering down your deck. Which is healthy to get down to that 7 power level fair magic. Avoids the powerful card arms race.
Definitely agree. Some of these are only viable in very certain decks. Maze is also only good in certain metas. I personally don't run it too often.
We just think it got completely replaced by Thaumatic Compass if it would have seen play elsewhere
The only deck I have Decree of Pain in is my cycling deck... I MAY have cast it twice, ever. But it’s really fun when you cycle it for 0 mana.
*please note that I’m not saying the card good in general, because of this; I’m saying that my deck is one of the corner cases that it’s good. And even there, it doesn’t actually do what it was intended to do.
Still, in my kenrith budget deck, Chromatic lanter is soooo good, but I see your point
I still play plenty of these, but it's because I choose to power down my decks and up the fun factor. I agree with many of the comments that EDH was probably more fun when WOTC wasn't supporting it (wasn't playing MTG much those years). The cycle of City of Guilds/GP/DN two-color legends for example are so fun (Tibor and Lumia, Ulasht, etc.) As for Necro, we older players lost so many times to it, got so tired of reading about it taking down tournaments that some probably assumed it was banned in every format ever. Again, just looking for more varried and fun versions - though I'll agree that even Greed and Arena are starting to feel boring. Overall, though I liked the video. Too much content tells you which cards you "must play" without any idea as to what should be cut. When I first switched from 60-card the deck size seemed massive. Now I never have enough slots for all the jank I want to include!
as somebody who plays in a group thats heavy on utility lands and heavy landfall combo decks I always run acidic slime. I am tired of dying to crucible of worlds and valakut....Also I run crucible of worlds and valakut...so i know how dangerous they can be.
I think you did Psychosis Crawler dirty. You gave three different options that were all only related to discarding cards and not a single one for what Crawler actually cares about.
If you play a deck that does draw a billion cards, like Aesi or whatever, its an absolute house.
You guys are very wrong about atraxa. The only reason I can think to have not ever cared about that card is that: it came out right around the time that the power level of decks started going up drastically.
Mentor of the meet? Why didn't you mention Welcoming Vampire it draws cards and is a flyer
Pernicious deed is imho a bit of a house in the right deck.
Preators Grasp is one of those weird cards thats way better at a competitive level than casual. In CEDH, most people play Oracle/Consultation. So you can essentially steal the piece you are missing from your opponent and win. Weird how some cards be like that