Hey guys love the channel! Wondering why Survival of the Fittest didn't make the list. Before the reserve list buyouts it was already approaching $100 and for good reason. That card doesn't just end games it destroys games.
Okay there have been a lot of comments about random enchantments but here is one we actually definitely missed 😅 Whoops! Survival of the Fittest is insane
@@NitpickingNerds Mh yeah, as soon as I saw the title of the video I though "ok, Survival of the Fittest must be like number 1 or 2". But I've also been thinking a lot about Survival lately, cause I would really like to get one but it's sooo expensive 😅
On my group-hug-but-stab-on-the-back Meletis duo, I run: Search for Azcanta, Mirri's Guile, Sylvan Library, Sensei's Divining Top, Land Tax and Scroll Rack. Bad drawing? No more.
Fun interaction with Song of the Dryads: you can use Vesuva to copy the Song'd permanent, and it comes in as the original permanent, so it's effectively a Clone effect that can't be countered.
@@hiddenleaf414 yes it works with imprisoned in the moon as well. All that matters is that the enchanted permanent is a land. Thesbian Stage/Vesuva will be able to copy it. Side note when using song of the dryads as removal, any multicolored deck can potentially get rid of it with a bounce land.
Since it wasn't even in your honorable mentions, I can now officially say that evolutionary leap is the most underrated enchantment in all of commander
Beast whisperer, lets you draw the card even if the spell gets countered. Also, song of the dryads has an awesome interaction with vesuva and thespian stage.
Landtax is kinda always good since there will be at least one green deck ramping across the table, even if you got first. It's kinda a soft ancestral recall.
@@baconoftheark Not sure if it's the best idea to slow your own game plan down just so the Land Tax guy doesn't draw his/her lands. In the end, it's not ramp, just card advantage. But for Remora, Rhystic Study and the like, I totally get the point.
Don't forget the powerful Land Tax + Zuran Orb interaction. These two also make Armageddon ten times more effective, and one good land sweep is enough to flip a game in your favor.
Land Tax enables a lot of ridiculous draw engines if you combine it with effects that put cards back in your deck. I play it with Scroll Rack to turn my lands into cards and then get the lands back to do it again next turn.
I think some that could have made the list in no order: 1. Moat- in right shell 2. Earthcraft 3. Survival of the Fittest 4. Burgeoning 5. Defense of the Heart (if 2 piece combo) 6. Stasis- Can be CEDH.... HM- I quite like Wild Growth. 0 cost dork if 2 lands in play
This is a good comment, I can understand not including 500 dollar reserved list cards as this list then wouldn't be useful for the average player learning about new cards to add to the deck, but cathars crusade, reclamation and dictate of erabos is fantastic to add
@@TheSynisterMinister well, dictate is decent but not amazing, as many decks either run very few creatures, or a ton of sac fodder. Crusade is also good, but it's just good, it does't do much apart from make big dudes. you need a way for them to get through. Grave pact is great though, same with season
I'm a little surprised that Concordant Crossroads wasn't on the list. That card is a banger in my play group, but it is no where near the power level of cards like Rhystic Study and the like.
Good to see you guys safe and sound. Great video as always. I was really hoping there would be Phyrexian Reclamation, atleast as a honorable mention. I find that card is super good, regardless how innocuous it might seem. Totally agree with the rest of you guys' list. Looking forward to more of these kinds of videos. Keep up the good work!!
Nice list. Next to the before mentioned Survival of the Fittest I was probably missing Sneak Attack. Cheating creatures on the board with haste for one Mana is increadibly strong - keeping these creatures with a commander like Obeka, Brute Chronologist or cards like Sundial of the Infinite for super value. It's usually kill on sight and probably at the power level of Pattern of Rebirth.
Had a random thought for a potentially fun topic: good decks that play bad cards. Like, good commanders that have synergy with otherwise unplayable cards. Also, glad to finally see people putting Smothering Tithe above Rhystic Study. I’ve been saying it.
LOL That would be my Mogis Slug-chantment deck in a nutshell. So many horrible Rakdos ''stax'' enchantment effects with MLD as a finisher so you get left with my board of horrible Enchantments and Mogis, which does kill me also because misery loves comfort. I don't always win but it is sure funny.
One thing you can do with sylvan library is play it while you have abundance down and it basically turns into draw three cards during your draw phase. Since if you trigger abundance's ability it bypasses the pay life cause on sylvan library.
Coolest thing about Sylvan Library - you don’t have to put cards back if you had draw-replacement effects for all cards you drew that turn (maybe you had an upkeep step draw), such as dredge or Underrealm Lich.
The Abyss, Parallax Wave, Parallax Tide, Survival of the Fittest, Humility, Stasis, Frozen Aether/Kismet, Moat and his younger brother Teferi's Moat, Mirari's Wake, Detention Sphere/Oblivion Ring, Island Sanctuary, Defense of the Heart, Sterling Grove, Opalescence, Leylines (pick one really, I prefer black and white ones), Trade Routes, Dream Halls, Solitary Confinement and Mind over Matter are some quick ones that poped up in my head that would trump most stuff in this list, but... you might also want to include all of the color shut down ones, Back to Basics, Blood Moon, Choke, Chill, Karma, and such.
Joe: "Necropotence is Bonkers", soooo... Insane Totally insane Bonkers.... we need a Joe Cherries 1-10 power scale rating system for cards. Bonkers is 10 :)
On of my all time favorite enchantments is Rite of the Raging Storm, love making interactions between players, i feel the card is just missing a "the lighting rager must attack each combat" function tho
...And that, guys, is why Feed the Swarm is the best card ever printed for grixis lol Anyways, I haven't seen the video yet, that's my top15, let's se how much it differs from yours :) (Also i'm only including enchantments, not auras or creature enchantments and things like that, i dunno if you included those in the video) 1) Rhystic Study 2) Smothering Tithe 3) Zendikar Resurgent 4) Land Tax 5) Search for Azcanta 6) Leyline of the Void 7) Sylvan Library 8) Doubling Season 9) Exploration 10) Rhytm of the Wild 11) Blood Moon 12) Sanguine bond 13) Dictate of Erebos 14) Felidar Retreat 15) Pernicious Deed (My list is based only on my personal experience -mostly AGAINST those enchantments- and preferences)
Pattern of rebirth - if sword to plowshared; it's exiled not killed, therefore no trigger. Likely most will run exile on this one, it eats up their path or sword. But still would consider running with enchantment recursion.
LOL In my CEDH group Sylvan Library was great till they realized that my Xenagos deck deals an average 30+ damage, yes I got countered but when I finally hit someone on the 95% blue board...Fatality. Greater Good brings back memories of younger me making my mono green Urza Saga block deck with Weatherseed Treefolk, sacrificing to draw 5, keep 2, Weatherseed returns to hand rarely did my opponent permanently remove a Weatherseed Treefolk. I was buying Itlimoc's at 5-7$ now its 20$+, I mean it is just a fixed Gaea cradle... Aura Shards is a must in Ghave, the abuse oh the abuse... BTW did you see that Grave Titan is being printed in a Secret lair?
"I think the rhystic part is the Blue" there was a rhystic cycle for each color, it's the Study that's blue haha. Love the video guys. Get it, study? Blue? Oh nvm lol
Was kind of expecting Survival of the Fittest to be among these cards. Any reason it was left out? I feel it is much better than a guardian project or sylvan library, but that could just be me?
Once I realized Survival wasn’t on the list it definitely made me question some of the choices even more. Guardian Project and Growing Rites are clunky and only good in combo groups with 0 or limited interaction. Song of the Dryads is good, but arguably not as good as something like Oblivion Ring. Grasp of Fate is MILES better than Song of the Dryads.
One of my favorite enchantments as a creature based player is Asceticism. The first time I saw that card it was everything I wanted on an enchantment. I used to think Land Tax wasn’t a good card. Put it in my Dragonlord Ojutai Voltron/Control edh deck. The last 3 times I played Land Tax it cleared out all my basics so I was only drawing/anticipating gas.
Besides the Survival snub this is a pretty good list - albeit it focuses more on solid staples than maybe just really powerful enchantments? Maybe there's a case for cards like Intruder Alarm, Mind Over Matter, Stasis etc. for sheer game-warping, winning you the game as quickly as possible from the moment you play them-power (well, except Stasis for that - but it's obviously incredibly powerful).
I love Song of the Dryads. If all your creatures have forest walk, not only does this card serve as a Trojan horse, you can also remove the greatest threat on the table. Kill two birds with one stone.
U could use raze or cleansing wildfire to destroy your creature with song of the dryad on it. These cards are essential if your opponant uses maze of ith and similar lands anyway
Sylvan library + a deck that can consistently shuffle every turn, all for 1G, is pretty phenomenal. If it’s a cascade deck or miracles or has a lot of life gain etc, this is one the best value cards in the format. I play a lot of maelstrom wanderer and Omnath, LoC so maybe I’m just bias having experienced the ceiling of sylvan library so often.
It's not top 15 but Kaya's ghostform is really good to. Prob top 45? Idk for sure. It's an amazing protection piece and can sometimes let you take control of enemy creatures DEFENSE OF THE HEART?!?!?
Kismet and Frozen Aether are strong contenders against the taxing effect of Blind Obedience. 1 additional mana to hit lands, but you lose the Extort ability is worth it. Personally, I love seeing my opponents fetches come in tapped, and turning dual lands into slow lands.
I would love there would be a white Narset/hullbreacher type enchantment. Or something close to opposition agent. It is crazy that white is supposed to be the enchantment color and the stax color and it doesnt have the bests enchantments or stax cards.
No love for green huh? Survival of the fittest, birthing pod, defense of the heart, etc...... Oh well, at least you chose pattern of rebirth. Great list guys!!
Land Tax & Sylvan Library should be higher on this list. While they don’t have the raw power that Necropotence has, they’re effects add up really fast. Sylvan Library is especially good since green probably has more incidental shuffle effects than any other color, so you continually reset your library. An early and unanswered Library often runs away with games.
I like how you guys can disagree about something like aura shards and then the topic gets sussed out even more. I feel like most other content creators shy away from discussions like that, at least on camera. You guys have a knack for contradicting each other without making it awkward. My wife and I could take a lesson from you 😂
One of my favorite memories of EDH is my Orzhov Aristocrats deck not having a good day at all and falling asleep through everyone's turns while I was stacking 2, 3... then 9 treasure with Smothering Tithe, nobody had enchantment removals, nobody bothered. Then at 9 I threw down Revel in Riches and suddenly everyone was struggling to pay the extra mana Do you... pay 2?
I thought Burgeoning would be in for sure. 1 drop whenever an opponent plays a land you play a land from your hand, is so much ramp for so little cost. If you drop it turn 1 and you started the game if you had 3 lands in hand it would be you are on turn 5 while everyone else is in turn 2.
I run Mystic Remora entirely in the hopes that someone, somewhere will worry about giving me cards and just not pay. The deck that uses it has essentially nothing to do turn 1 normally, but turn 2 or 3 it normally ramps, so sometimes I just hope to delay people's ramp for a turn and move on. Edit: That same deck uses Necropotence to find combos, but it's Zur, so he uses it the worst way (doesn't pay for it, and then abuses it). Then Zur fetches the other half of the combo.
I've played both in my Muldrotha deck, but i think I prefer Defense of the Heart over Pattern of Rebirth. There's just that feel bad that your opponents have when they realize they just gave you the game by playing creatures. Definitely not "better" due to the drawbacks and conditions, but still so much fun
I play Aura Shards in my Big Cat's Tribal deck and my favorite card to run with it is Nacatl Warpride. Every time you attack you basically just blow up all the artifacts on the board that aren't yours and everyone just gets pissed lol
I won't disagree. If you guys ever wanna just go over a topic I would love to see what the best reanimation cards just in general. I must say I have been playing for only a few years but I'm glad I found this gem of a RUclips channel. Thank you for replying means a lot!
I feel like sylvan library is infinitely better with fetches, after every fetch you get to see the top 3 again, benefits more from multicoloured decks I suppose, running more shuffles seems to benefit it way more.
Aura shards is in token generation colors... it is perfect for removal with token generation. It shuts down enchantment heavy decks. Especially when paired with your cathars crusade to make the beefy tokens, and wipe out all your opponents enchantments and artifacts.
Isn’t there a card that makes all lands or all lands opponent controls islands? I think not only is that a dirty dirty lock out but would combo that ramp enchantment.
Mystic Remora and Eon Hub? Or better yet, Eon Hub and ****** (with CMC = 6) by turn 3? .... oh wait not gonna give away ******* in my deck THAT easily, but it's what I usually play with and DO get them both out by turn 3, or 4. PM if curious... Love Rhystic Study..... SOOOO glad I opened two foil versions so long ago when Prophecy came out and kept them.
Hey guys love the channel! Wondering why Survival of the Fittest didn't make the list. Before the reserve list buyouts it was already approaching $100 and for good reason. That card doesn't just end games it destroys games.
Okay there have been a lot of comments about random enchantments but here is one we actually definitely missed 😅 Whoops! Survival of the Fittest is insane
@@NitpickingNerds Mh yeah, as soon as I saw the title of the video I though "ok, Survival of the Fittest must be like number 1 or 2". But I've also been thinking a lot about Survival lately, cause I would really like to get one but it's sooo expensive 😅
Survival of the Fittest is dirtier and more powerful than Necropotence, in my opinion. I've seen a lot of both and I would have put that #1
There are several enchantments that are FAR more powerful than half this list at least. Dream Halls and Mind Over Matter just as a couple examples.
@@123darkdeal those are good but slow to get out.
Land Tax lets you shuffle, which means you get to see 3 new cards every turn if you also have Sylvan Library :D
C-C-C-COMBOOOOO
Same with scroll rack. Which basically just makes it card draw for 1 white.
Land Tax + Scroll Rack = Ancestral Vision. 1 mana to draw 3 cards, aka. best Power Nine every single turn.
On my group-hug-but-stab-on-the-back Meletis duo, I run: Search for Azcanta, Mirri's Guile, Sylvan Library, Sensei's Divining Top, Land Tax and Scroll Rack. Bad drawing? No more.
@@jonassilva2099 ooh idk, time walk is pretty nuts. Lotus is ridiculous as well. Those 3 are totally the top 3 though
You're wrong, top enchantment is clearly grave titan.
GET OUTTA HERE
@@NitpickingNerds Look at the bright side, then Acidic Slime could kill Grave Titan.
Haha, Kieran, you are my kind of people.
Animate Dead makes Grave Titan an enchantment
Fun interaction with Song of the Dryads: you can use Vesuva to copy the Song'd permanent, and it comes in as the original permanent, so it's effectively a Clone effect that can't be countered.
That's actually hilarious 😂
Does it work with Imprisoned in the Moon too?
@@hiddenleaf414 yes it works with imprisoned in the moon as well. All that matters is that the enchanted permanent is a land. Thesbian Stage/Vesuva will be able to copy it. Side note when using song of the dryads as removal, any multicolored deck can potentially get rid of it with a bounce land.
Will you guys do a tour of your own decks/collection?
Defnitely happening in the near future!
Do iiiiit!
@@NitpickingNerds yessss, been waiting for that one!
Yeeeees do it do it!!
Since it wasn't even in your honorable mentions, I can now officially say that evolutionary leap is the most underrated enchantment in all of commander
It's a good card and sac outlet but it doesn't quite overtake these crazy cards!
I really like Evolutionary Leap. The fixed Survival of the Fittest :)
That's just a worse survival of the fittest for most decks, yeah? Unless you're specifically playing a _green_ sacrifice deck
Wow just checked that out and it’s nuts! In korvold it’s even arguably better than survival
Beast whisperer, lets you draw the card even if the spell gets countered.
Also, song of the dryads has an awesome interaction with vesuva and thespian stage.
Yes it does, it's really funny
Landtax is kinda always good since there will be at least one green deck ramping across the table, even if you got first. It's kinda a soft ancestral recall.
Especially with looting effects!
@@baconoftheark Not sure if it's the best idea to slow your own game plan down just so the Land Tax guy doesn't draw his/her lands. In the end, it's not ramp, just card advantage.
But for Remora, Rhystic Study and the like, I totally get the point.
Don't forget the powerful Land Tax + Zuran Orb interaction. These two also make Armageddon ten times more effective, and one good land sweep is enough to flip a game in your favor.
Land Tax enables a lot of ridiculous draw engines if you combine it with effects that put cards back in your deck. I play it with Scroll Rack to turn my lands into cards and then get the lands back to do it again next turn.
Going through my random commons and Uncommons the other day and I found a mystic remora!
I think some that could have made the list in no order:
1. Moat- in right shell
2. Earthcraft
3. Survival of the Fittest
4. Burgeoning
5. Defense of the Heart (if 2 piece combo)
6. Stasis- Can be CEDH....
HM- I quite like Wild Growth. 0 cost dork if 2 lands in play
We missed Survival which should be on the list somewhere, the rest are good maybe not quite there
So suprised you didn't add doubling season, cathar's crusade, moat, phyrexian Reclamation, or grave pact.
I mean, there are a lot of good enchantments that prob wouldn’t make it
This is a good comment, I can understand not including 500 dollar reserved list cards as this list then wouldn't be useful for the average player learning about new cards to add to the deck, but cathars crusade, reclamation and dictate of erabos is fantastic to add
@@TheSynisterMinister well, dictate is decent but not amazing, as many decks either run very few creatures, or a ton of sac fodder. Crusade is also good, but it's just good, it does't do much apart from make big dudes. you need a way for them to get through. Grave pact is great though, same with season
I'm a little surprised that Concordant Crossroads wasn't on the list. That card is a banger in my play group, but it is no where near the power level of cards like Rhystic Study and the like.
Crossroads is a top 30 enchantment for sure
Good to see you guys safe and sound. Great video as always.
I was really hoping there would be Phyrexian Reclamation, atleast as a honorable mention. I find that card is super good, regardless how innocuous it might seem.
Totally agree with the rest of you guys' list. Looking forward to more of these kinds of videos. Keep up the good work!!
The card is very strong but nit quite as good as these cards
Nice list. Next to the before mentioned Survival of the Fittest I was probably missing Sneak Attack. Cheating creatures on the board with haste for one Mana is increadibly strong - keeping these creatures with a commander like Obeka, Brute Chronologist or cards like Sundial of the Infinite for super value.
It's usually kill on sight and probably at the power level of Pattern of Rebirth.
Had a random thought for a potentially fun topic: good decks that play bad cards. Like, good commanders that have synergy with otherwise unplayable cards.
Also, glad to finally see people putting Smothering Tithe above Rhystic Study. I’ve been saying it.
LOL That would be my Mogis Slug-chantment deck in a nutshell. So many horrible Rakdos ''stax'' enchantment effects with MLD as a finisher so you get left with my board of horrible Enchantments and Mogis, which does kill me also because misery loves comfort. I don't always win but it is sure funny.
LOVE the "Glitch" on 4:11 LOL awesome!
I've seen the glitch like 25 times :D LOL so hilarious!
One thing you can do with sylvan library is play it while you have abundance down and it basically turns into draw three cards during your draw phase. Since if you trigger abundance's ability it bypasses the pay life cause on sylvan library.
So many of these are EXACTLY why I run Krosan Grip as often as possible.
Terribly overcosted card though
Coolest thing about Sylvan Library - you don’t have to put cards back if you had draw-replacement effects for all cards you drew that turn (maybe you had an upkeep step draw), such as dredge or Underrealm Lich.
My favorite effect is abundance.
@@ygaudreault That would work, too. I’ve never used that one, m’self, though.
@@crawdaddy2004 I've pulled it off a few times, not much you can do feel's that powerful. You can choose how much land you need to draw, it's crazy.
Yo how r my favorite nerds doing today?
We're doing great, very excited to get back to our 3-4 video grind!
Kinda suprised breach isnt here, red yawgmoths will is fun
Glad to hear you guys are safe and healthy!
Should be back to our normal schedule next week!
I love how excited they are in every video
The Abyss, Parallax Wave, Parallax Tide, Survival of the Fittest, Humility, Stasis, Frozen Aether/Kismet, Moat and his younger brother Teferi's Moat, Mirari's Wake, Detention Sphere/Oblivion Ring, Island Sanctuary, Defense of the Heart, Sterling Grove, Opalescence, Leylines (pick one really, I prefer black and white ones), Trade Routes, Dream Halls, Solitary Confinement and Mind over Matter are some quick ones that poped up in my head that would trump most stuff in this list, but... you might also want to include all of the color shut down ones, Back to Basics, Blood Moon, Choke, Chill, Karma, and such.
No demonitized yet, I got not one, but two ads before it :P
Whew! Gotta make that sweet sweet ad revenue
Joe: "Necropotence is Bonkers", soooo...
Insane
Totally insane
Bonkers.... we need a Joe Cherries 1-10 power scale rating system for cards. Bonkers is 10 :)
Imagine if you had Gaea's Cradle, Itlimach, AND Circle of Dreams Druid^^
AKA Gaea's Cradle, Budget Gaea's Cradle, and Gaea's Cradle on an Elf.
On of my all time favorite enchantments is Rite of the Raging Storm, love making interactions between players, i feel the card is just missing a "the lighting rager must attack each combat" function tho
There is little reason for a person to not attack with Raging Storm tokens. It works well in Thantis the Warweaver decks.
@@matthewguile8485 The reason might be that your 3 oppoments knows what your intentions are with the card and deside to not attack eachother with it
...And that, guys, is why Feed the Swarm is the best card ever printed for grixis lol
Anyways,
I haven't seen the video yet, that's my top15, let's se how much it differs from yours :)
(Also i'm only including enchantments, not auras or creature enchantments and things like that, i dunno if you included those in the video)
1) Rhystic Study
2) Smothering Tithe
3) Zendikar Resurgent
4) Land Tax
5) Search for Azcanta
6) Leyline of the Void
7) Sylvan Library
8) Doubling Season
9) Exploration
10) Rhytm of the Wild
11) Blood Moon
12) Sanguine bond
13) Dictate of Erebos
14) Felidar Retreat
15) Pernicious Deed
(My list is based only on my personal experience -mostly AGAINST those enchantments- and preferences)
We had a few of the same picks! I will say that Felidar Retreat was actually close to making the list, I'd say it might be a top 25 enchantment!
Pattern of rebirth - if sword to plowshared; it's exiled not killed, therefore no trigger. Likely most will run exile on this one, it eats up their path or sword. But still would consider running with enchantment recursion.
Sylvan Library + Underrealm Lich = Good Times
sylvian library and abundance.
stasis, energy flux, moat, land equilibrium, concordant crossroads, blood moon, back to basics, humility, overwhelming splendor. just to name a few
burgeoning and underworld breach are two I would consider putting somewhere in this list
I like Burgeoning more than exploration
LOL In my CEDH group Sylvan Library was great till they realized that my Xenagos deck deals an average 30+ damage, yes I got countered but when I finally hit someone on the 95% blue board...Fatality.
Greater Good brings back memories of younger me making my mono green Urza Saga block deck with Weatherseed Treefolk, sacrificing to draw 5, keep 2, Weatherseed returns to hand rarely did my opponent permanently remove a Weatherseed Treefolk.
I was buying Itlimoc's at 5-7$ now its 20$+, I mean it is just a fixed Gaea cradle...
Aura Shards is a must in Ghave, the abuse oh the abuse...
BTW did you see that Grave Titan is being printed in a Secret lair?
great video! only thing - cyclonic rift can't even deal with song of the dryads if its attached to your permanent xD. my favorite enchantment for sure
"I think the rhystic part is the Blue" there was a rhystic cycle for each color, it's the Study that's blue haha. Love the video guys. Get it, study? Blue? Oh nvm lol
Was kind of expecting Survival of the Fittest to be among these cards. Any reason it was left out? I feel it is much better than a guardian project or sylvan library, but that could just be me?
Once I realized Survival wasn’t on the list it definitely made me question some of the choices even more. Guardian Project and Growing Rites are clunky and only good in combo groups with 0 or limited interaction. Song of the Dryads is good, but arguably not as good as something like Oblivion Ring. Grasp of Fate is MILES better than Song of the Dryads.
One of my favorite enchantments as a creature based player is Asceticism. The first time I saw that card it was everything I wanted on an enchantment.
I used to think Land Tax wasn’t a good card. Put it in my Dragonlord Ojutai Voltron/Control edh deck. The last 3 times I played Land Tax it cleared out all my basics so I was only drawing/anticipating gas.
You don't know how Smothering that Tithe is until you risk your ship and crew to go Treasure Cruise and HE creates 3 treasure tokens
That was hilarious, you two must be so much fun to play in a real game. Well, except for the glaringly obv fact that you would kill all my decks
Aren't you actually supposed to decide who goes first before opening hands? Unless multiplayer is different than standard one on one
How embarrassing for Joe!
You know whats pretty great with aura shards? Grave Titan!
Just play Weaponcraft Enthusiast!
@@NitpickingNerds goddamnit...... GET OUT OF HERE!
Missing the card draw engine that Land Tax enables. I'm playing Land Tax plus Scroll Rack in Daxos the Returned to turn my basics into other cards.
Besides the Survival snub this is a pretty good list - albeit it focuses more on solid staples than maybe just really powerful enchantments? Maybe there's a case for cards like Intruder Alarm, Mind Over Matter, Stasis etc. for sheer game-warping, winning you the game as quickly as possible from the moment you play them-power (well, except Stasis for that - but it's obviously incredibly powerful).
I love Song of the Dryads. If all your creatures have forest walk, not only does this card serve as a Trojan horse, you can also remove the greatest threat on the table. Kill two birds with one stone.
Confounding Conundrum is my pick for one of best enchantments in edh
It's a really good one
Land tax in orzhov reanimator is also great. Discard engine without discard effect.
U could use raze or cleansing wildfire to destroy your creature with song of the dryad on it. These cards are essential if your opponant uses maze of ith and similar lands anyway
That number 3 fake out got me 😂
Sylvan library + a deck that can consistently shuffle every turn, all for 1G, is pretty phenomenal. If it’s a cascade deck or miracles or has a lot of life gain etc, this is one the best value cards in the format. I play a lot of maelstrom wanderer and Omnath, LoC so maybe I’m just bias having experienced the ceiling of sylvan library so often.
It's not top 15 but Kaya's ghostform is really good to. Prob top 45? Idk for sure. It's an amazing protection piece and can sometimes let you take control of enemy creatures
DEFENSE OF THE HEART?!?!?
Kismet and Frozen Aether are strong contenders against the taxing effect of Blind Obedience. 1 additional mana to hit lands, but you lose the Extort ability is worth it.
Personally, I love seeing my opponents fetches come in tapped, and turning dual lands into slow lands.
Growing Rites doesn't actually flip. It transforms. Flip cards were printed in Kamigawa block, and won't ever be used as a returning mechanic.
The thing with mystic remora is that drawing a card is good but not pay 4 mana to prevent it good
I would love there would be a white Narset/hullbreacher type enchantment. Or something close to opposition agent. It is crazy that white is supposed to be the enchantment color and the stax color and it doesnt have the bests enchantments or stax cards.
Very surprise to not see Sunbird's Invocation in your list guys. That card get so much value...
"I play Covid-19" "Okay in response I play mana drain" = extra saucy
huh?
No love for green huh? Survival of the fittest, birthing pod, defense of the heart, etc...... Oh well, at least you chose pattern of rebirth. Great list guys!!
Birthing pod is an artifact but survival was something we just missed
Land Tax & Sylvan Library should be higher on this list. While they don’t have the raw power that Necropotence has, they’re effects add up really fast. Sylvan Library is especially good since green probably has more incidental shuffle effects than any other color, so you continually reset your library. An early and unanswered Library often runs away with games.
Nobody else in my meta plays Rhystic Study and none of them have quite caught on to it yet. Very often I have 10+ cards in hand.
I like using Greater good in my hydra deck with the Ozlith. To keep passing counters to draw more.
I use Sylvan Library for the payoff of drawing 3 cards for things that trigger on draws (Ominous Seas for example) but it requires work
You can choose to not play land for turn when you have land tax. This means the next person goes first.
I like how you guys can disagree about something like aura shards and then the topic gets sussed out even more. I feel like most other content creators shy away from discussions like that, at least on camera. You guys have a knack for contradicting each other without making it awkward. My wife and I could take a lesson from you 😂
One of my favorite memories of EDH is my Orzhov Aristocrats deck not having a good day at all and falling asleep through everyone's turns while I was stacking 2, 3... then 9 treasure with Smothering Tithe, nobody had enchantment removals, nobody bothered.
Then at 9 I threw down Revel in Riches and suddenly everyone was struggling to pay the extra mana
Do you... pay 2?
I think you are missing some of the old but really strong enchantments like Moat, Nether Void, The Abyss and drop of honey.
I thought Burgeoning would be in for sure. 1 drop whenever an opponent plays a land you play a land from your hand, is so much ramp for so little cost. If you drop it turn 1 and you started the game if you had 3 lands in hand it would be you are on turn 5 while everyone else is in turn 2.
Kismet > blind obedience. Hitting lands in addition is strong, doesn't gain aggro early from the life stealing. Looks amazing.
Necropotence number 1? I would have never guessed. The only hint was in every time they've mentioned draw in black.
Very good Entchantments, but im still suprised Survival of the fittest didnt even reach the Top 15.
18:26 the answer to that question is not Gaea's Cradle, correct answer is "Island"
Gaea’s Cradle > island
@@NitpickingNerds lies, stop misleading the Timmys out there. Blue decks far more OP than any green deck with cradle! :P
@@NitpickingNerds also, if i may "nitpick" (ehhhh, ehhh!) I think leaving underworld breach off the list is an oversight!
I think they kept necropotence unbanned because they banned Yawgmoth’s Bargain.
My favorite enchantment is Burgeoning. I play it over exploration.
Burgeoning is also really good, especially with card draw too
I run Mystic Remora entirely in the hopes that someone, somewhere will worry about giving me cards and just not pay. The deck that uses it has essentially nothing to do turn 1 normally, but turn 2 or 3 it normally ramps, so sometimes I just hope to delay people's ramp for a turn and move on.
Edit: That same deck uses Necropotence to find combos, but it's Zur, so he uses it the worst way (doesn't pay for it, and then abuses it). Then Zur fetches the other half of the combo.
Grave Pact, Goblin Bombardment, Impact Tremors, Exquisite Blood, Earthcraft, Prosh as Commander and lose all your friends:)
I've played both in my Muldrotha deck, but i think I prefer Defense of the Heart over Pattern of Rebirth. There's just that feel bad that your opponents have when they realize they just gave you the game by playing creatures. Definitely not "better" due to the drawbacks and conditions, but still so much fun
So, are we thinking the top 5 of each of these videos can be autoincluded in any deck where they are legal?
"rhystic study isn't a fun card."
To me, it's fun when I'm the one playing it! Mwahahaha!
Great vid, friends!
itlamoc is actually better than cradle. it taps for 1 mana. so when someone immediately board wipes it isn't a dead land.
I play Aura Shards in my Big Cat's Tribal deck and my favorite card to run with it is Nacatl Warpride. Every time you attack you basically just blow up all the artifacts on the board that aren't yours and everyone just gets pissed lol
I bought both these cards for a Jetmir deck a week apart and when I was sleeving them up it occured to me how frustrating this card is going to be
May I ask what do you guys think of doubling season ? Loved the video honestly just was thinking for commander that would bd in top 10 lol.
It might be top 25 or something like that, but it's kinda clunky
I won't disagree. If you guys ever wanna just go over a topic I would love to see what the best reanimation cards just in general. I must say I have been playing for only a few years but I'm glad I found this gem of a RUclips channel. Thank you for replying means a lot!
No love for Repercussions? It's amazing in any sort of Red burn deck, especially given all the tribal decks used in EDH.
Welcome back papa Joe!
We're glad everyone is covid-free!
I feel like sylvan library is infinitely better with fetches, after every fetch you get to see the top 3 again, benefits more from multicoloured decks I suppose, running more shuffles seems to benefit it way more.
When playing aura shards, get ready to be called the fun police.
I strongly prefer “paperweight” effects, like Song of the Dryads or Reprobation over Oblivion Ring or detainment cards like Arrest.
An enchantment I love to use is Tranquil Grove. It answers other enchantments and stays on the table.
It is solid
Doesn't come in foil - dead card. :)
Aura shards is in token generation colors... it is perfect for removal with token generation. It shuts down enchantment heavy decks. Especially when paired with your cathars crusade to make the beefy tokens, and wipe out all your opponents enchantments and artifacts.
Isn’t there a card that makes all lands or all lands opponent controls islands? I think not only is that a dirty dirty lock out but would combo that ramp enchantment.
Great video love most of these Enchantments keep up the great work
Now I'm curious which ones you don't love
I find the lack of Shared Fate... disturbing. Haha great list knew for sure Necropotence was gonna be number 1
Mystic Remora and Eon Hub?
Or better yet, Eon Hub and ****** (with CMC = 6) by turn 3? .... oh wait not gonna give away ******* in my deck THAT easily, but it's what I usually play with and DO get them both out by turn 3, or 4. PM if curious...
Love Rhystic Study..... SOOOO glad I opened two foil versions so long ago when Prophecy came out and kept them.
Survival of the fittest is one I’m surprised to not see in this list. I feel like it wins most games is higher power level metas
We are pretty annoyed that somehow, we missed Survival. I think it should be between #4 and #5 :(
Aura Shards + Enchanted Evening..... add in Archon of Sun's Grace for the most ridiculous one sided board wipe you'll find in an enchantress deck.
You should do the Top 15 cards in the Meta
My favorite combo is, dump kozilek great distortion turn 1 to grave, animate dead turn 2, necropotence turn 3, infinite counters turn 3
Thank you for the loud noise warning. I have earbuds in.
The number 1 enchantment is grave titan clearly.
Necromancy on it
Ominous Seas and Greater Good combo is nasty
Land tax example is wrong. You choose turn order, then resolve mulligans in turn order.