@urbangentry, that is not a ghost position. It is a feature/winding function. it is required to get the watch winding when it has run out of power. pulling it out and pushing it in emits a small charge that gets the seconds hand running, after which the watch can safely be wound. so it is not in fact, a ghost position.
Love the balanced review, TGV! I almost pulled the trigger on this piece, mostly because of the common perception that the power reserve on a GS dial is something of an ‘atrocity’ to a lot of people and that this model is an answer to those looking for more symmetry and cleanliness on the dial. But when it comes to GS, my first love is always the SBGA413 ‘Spring’, so I finally pulled the trigger on that one. I actually love the power reserve display as it breaks the symmetry and makes the dial more interesting. The case on the SBGA413 also has more of a presence on the wrist. I actually did try the SBGY007 on the wrist for comparison, and I find it underwhelming as it doesn’t grab my attention. But my eyes kept coming back to SBGA413 hahaha. But I do see why a lot of people would love it, though. On paper, it’s perfect (except for that splash proof part). But I always believe that I should try the thing on first because that’s when I know whether or not the watch is for me. Thanks!
Those are my two favorite GS too! I'm thinking of buying both eventually:) I think they're distinct enough that one can have both, one daily and one dress watch. First the 'spring' tho, on that I agree
I bought the limited edition (140 pieces) SBGW275 recently. It's one of the most beautiful pieces I own. Paid $4900 but am selling it for $8400. I bought it for my wife but when it arrived she said it was too big for her wrist (she's a miniature version of a real person). Going rate for that piece is $9k+ right now.
I have only recently seen this channel - now subscribed - but wanted to comment on the Date Ghost position. I have just checked my own example and it definitely does NOT have a ghost position, so either later models changed or there was a fault in the example reviewed. I am surprised however that the biggest drawback was not mentioned - the bulk of the clasp makes the watch feel much more bulky than it is. But the cure is simple and free, swap the strap arms about so the loose end is in the more conventional European 'outside' rather than the Japanese 'inside'. This trick courtesy of the retailer I viewed and purchased from. After looking at pretty much everything the store had, the Omiwatari is surely the true spirit of the movement and I was just blown away with it. I already have two other dress watches, but this was just too beautiful. I think your review was absolutely spot on. A classic case of less is more I feel.
I’m quite surprised TGV that value was one of the negatives. Believe this will rocket forward in years to come. But your conclusion is spot on. Best for 2022 to you/family and the channel, as it’s you that got me into serious collecting about 5 years ago and thank you for that.
While many have come and gone over the multiple years I've watched your channel, you remain my all-time favourite horological critic, Tristiano. Thanks for an absolutely fabulous intro, which set this polar piece up perfectly, and all the detail, plus honesty shared throughout. This is a GS I've had my eyes on, but must admit that it's priced higher than I'd like to go for a watch type I don't wear out all that often. I also agree with your assessment regarding size. I have a small collection of '50s and '60s era dress pieces, ranging from 34-36mm, and my vintage-style OrientStar Classic is starting to feel a bit clumsy by comparison. This has been my issue with most every dress watch in recent years, from the humble Bambino to pricier items from Tissot's Visodate, various FCs, and most GS models. They're just too big for my 6.5-inch wrist, which is why I've been enjoying vintage pieces so much, plus a few newer Timex Marlin Reissues, a lovely Mido Commander 1959, etc. Let's hope GS hears our call for something in the 36mm range. I think it would be a massive hit, especially in Seiko's home market. Anyway, I thank you for this review and the many others you've shared over the years, which have enhanced my watch collecting journey immeasurably. All the best to you and yours for 2022!
Thank you for great video and review. I am really impressed your deeply understanding our Japanese culture. I have original 44GS and reviewed in my channel, it's so sharp and brilliant which is exactly same as SBGY007. I hope you can travel to Japan this year.
Great vid TGV. There’s one main nagging doubt about jumping into GS for me atm, aside from many of the designs not quite hitting the sweet spot to my taste (of course very subjective, there are certainly some I like). That one thing being…. If an Omega/Zenith/Rolex/JLC etc similarly priced Swiss watch goes wrong, there is a service centre in the UK. It stays local (ish), the turn around is pretty quick if it has to go back. Anyone who’s collected watches for any time will know that even new ones occasionally have to go back under warranty. All the GS Spring Drive ones have to go back to Japan as far as I can tell. This seems a huge floor in their current set up. One I’m sure they will work to address. But knowing the company is there for me if things aren’t quite right is an important factor to me at least when buying new. If they want to compete with all the other brands, they need to up their game on not just the watches as a product but on their aftercare too.
I'm not familiar with UK, but in the US we have a service center in NJ that is able to service most GSs, including a "light polish" that falls short of zaratsu. Zaratsu polishing has to go back to Japan, and is an additional cost of around $700, not including insurance and import duties (which is significant). Pretty expensive considering typical GS prices, but the watch comes back essentially new. There was a thread on watchuseek where a jeweler sent a used Spring Drive to Seiko USA for a polish, then to Japan for proper zaratsu just to see the difference, and long story short, the additional $$$ seems to be worth the money, especially if done every decade or so. That being said, I believe the NJ service center has since updated their equipment and is able to get close enough to zaratsu that you can't tell the difference without macro. But still, I plan on getting mine serviced and refinished in Japan every 10y or so if it's still running fine. Thread is below. Original pics seem to have disappeared, but someone else has before/after pics of their own SD on page 6 which conveys the same the point. www.watchuseek.com/threads/the-zaratsu-journey-a-real-life-experience-with-grand-seiko-s-polishing-service-update-2-5.2371082/ I'm not sure if GS has exploded in Europe like in the US, but if sales start skyrocketing, I'm sure they will follow up with a EU service center as well.
There are several GS stores in UK plus the postal service back & forth from Japan is so good it usually arrives back the day before it's sent, (joke), especially when a shop has branches in Japan & a trade/postal corridor. I was once told by The Real Mccoy's UK that my in shop order would take just two days to arrive in shop from Japan I thought they were kidding until it arrived two days later...
As far as I know they do not need to go back to Japan if you are based in North America or Europe and can be serviced in local service centres. They do if you need the watch polished but not for mechanical or spring drive issues. FWIW, the spring drive does not appear particularly complicated. It uses clever components technically but a mechanical escapement on a traditional watch is just as complex .
@@UnknownUser-rb9pd I've been in forums where they had to go back, even heard of a Silver Birch (not Spring Drive) having to go back to Japan because it wasnt keeping time on the week of purchase.
The reason for the second ghost position in to be able to get a better stop hack at the 12 when setting the watch. If there were a ghost date you would feel the date mechanism when setting the watch. This is purely for time setting accuracy, imo its a really cool function.
I saw this watch and put it on yesterday at my local Grand Seiko dealer and its truly amazing in person. like a lot of watches pictures and videos don't do it justice.
I just wanted to say thank you for such a tasteful, informed, non-obnoxious grown up review, without a patronising thumbnail and one which doesn’t start with the camera facing the wrong bloody way round. It is greatly appreciated. May I ask your opinion please on a buying decision between the Omiwatari or the VC Fiftysix?
This is such a lovely piece. It's sad some people will never understand or appreciate the concept of wabi sabi. For me, it's such a fundamental concept in understanding Japanese art and design. As far as your next GS piece... imagine an SBGN003 with a spring drive, display caseback, and bi-directional bezel. Not to mention micro-adjustable clasp! A guy can dream.
Two years ago I started watching your channel, and went down the Seiko rabbit hole, bought six Seiko's and have my goal on a 1959 Alpinist, which will buy me the way out of the hole. But NOW THIS? definitely will never get out, amazing dial and the Spring drive is stunning, it's really magic on the wrist
Grand Seiko is breathtaking. This Omiwatari is another example of the symbiosis between GS and it’s surroundings. They respect nature and reproduce it in their products. That dial is mesmerising. Too bad about the ‘splash resistance’ but fine. The movement is a perfect merger of mechanical and electro mechanical engineering. I have a deep respect for this. Thanks for this lovely review and informative background information. I wish you the very best for 2022, lots of watch time and of course good health!
Terrific summation. What I love about this release from Grand Seiko mirrors my enthusiasm for the Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Control line; understated, refined elegance that is beautiful and classy without any ego-stroking “look at my expensive watch!” bloat. I really dig this watch. Well done!
Really love that Fortis. Would love to add a Grand Seiko at some point but drawn to the more vintage models. Having said that that dial is just amazing. Hope you and your family had a great holiday.
All the best to you and your family in 2022 sir. It's a stunning watch. I understand your reservations about the finishing. It's like being given a hypercar to test drive for everyday use but being told whatever you do don't scratch it. Far from comfortable. As you know I love Japanese watches so even given the negatives I'd love it, although I agree smaller size wouldnt go amiss. As with the many other previous years videos sublime video. Great production, knowledge. Look forward to another year of great videos and good health to you 🥂
That Grand Seiko is gorgeous. Love the comparisons with the SARB033. That watch still to this day remains my one and only watch because of this channel. I am lusting for more Seiko's (in particular the SPB143/SSC813) but I might just stick with my one watch collection forever and be happy. Keep up the good work TGV and Happy New Year!
Thank you Kevin, the SARB033 is indeed a classic. Thankfully it is in my wife's collection now so I still get to see it on the weekend 😉😂. Honestly it is the only watch you need as you can do everything with it. Enjoy and wear it with pride my friend, that watch really changed my life and my love for Seiko. Best regards, TGV
Brilliant intros. The quality of videos are soooo good. Content is good, too. I just realllly wish he’d stop gatekeeping horology and watch enthusiasm so much. The videos are sooooo good without that. Intros and music and production are always excellent.
@@theurbangentry Have you ever had a chance to wear the SARB021, or any of the other colorways? It was a tough decision for me, between the 033 and the 021. I chose the 021 for the case and hands/indices. I love how they float above the space-black dial.
Dear TGV, what I especially love about your channel: Your genuine interest in different countries' art, craftsmanship culture and history. I understand from your family background, you're especially interested in both Italian and German culture. (Beside English culture, that is.) Nevertheless, whenever discussing high quality watchmaking, you never fail to go the extra mile. You never forget to give a little extra info on the watchmakers' company, site, region or country. Quite lovely. Enough ingratiating myself, lol. Keep up the good work and all the best for 2022 and the following years. Many greetings from Germany.
Good afternoon TGV! That was one review I was waiting for! Thank you for the balanced review of the Grand Seiko, highlighting both the positives and negatives. For example, I would not have thought that the SBGY007 should be treated with such care, so thank you for the valuable advice! Have a great day! Best regards!
I think you may enjoy the SLGA007. A bit quirky with respects to case shape, bracelet and oversized crown, but dial is other worldly and the movement is superb. I agree with your assessment on this piece and enjoyed the journey you took us regarding the relevant history. Would love to see you review the SLGA007 and see what you think of it! Cheers and Happy New Year to you and yours!
Happy New Year TGV! Sitting in Germany at 10°C (50°F) I enjoyed the Japanese winter impressions in your Intro, once again perfectly introducing and framing the timepiece at hand.
TGV old chap, wonderful intro, your best yet. Almost detracted from the watch. As usual a very balanced and informative video. Another beautiful piece from GS. The dial colour and application of the indices are of the quality that we have all come to expect. The movement decoration is incredible. The dial texture softly reflects the light. Depending on the angle it shifts from a very soft pastel blue/grey to a creamy pearl white. The high polish cushion like case is beautiful but a finger print/scratch magnet. But I love it. Can't afford it but love it . Onwards and upwards.
Thanks TGV, you gave us deep insight and also your personal opinion about the positives and negatives of this GS spring drive watch. Very informative and I would like more of this. All the best to you!
Cheers for getting your hands on so many watches you love and feel passionately about! I feel the same about this Android AD384 lefty chronograph I just picked up, its wicked!
Excellent video. The Omiwatari is my goal for 2022. For all the reasons you’ve listed and more. Everything about this piece screams (or rather whispers) understated elegance for those in the know. Thanks for another great review. 😎👍🏼
Classic design but for me a 38 mm would have been better, glad they have now put the power reserve pointer on the back as it makes the dial look a lot cleaner Great review as always and happy new year
The production quality of the start of the video is just another level of brilliant. I do truly believe GS is fabulous but would like to see them do some more complications, I like busy, interesting dials.
Mate, truly appreciate your videos for deviating from the usual talk. Adding the cultural and artistic information to what I can see when going to the AD myself (size, movement, etc) is making your reviews value added and enjoyable. Keep up the great work.
Great video, thanks. I've watched a lot of videos featuring various GS models, and I have just bought the SBGE269 Toji. One observation - a lot of comments complain about the size, but none of the reviewers make the point that the marvellous Spring Drive is very complex and needs the room. The model you've reviewed here does not have the automatic movement, so one piece of thickness can be removed, but spring drive is always going to take up space.
I would love to see you review the new omega aqua Terra small second. That aqua Terra line has been used by omega so many times to bring back their older seamaster designs and would love to hear your opinion on it
I understand your point about price and resale and is a valid and reasonable point of view (unfortunately in my opinion this is the way society works). I'm an outlier and always asses anything for what it is and not for what other tells it should be. Would this approach cost me money, well some times, but the feeling of being the only judge of what I really appreciate is priceless.
Mr. TGV, speaking of watch price is not vulgar its part of the hobby and everyone knows that it is probably one of the most important part of the hobby.
Just bought one for my wife and myself. Having been a big Rolex guy (6), this is a very refreshing time piece that screams class, vs a sub, or even a datejust. We are not rich but can have a few nice things. Will it be my favorite everyday driver? Probably not. When I put on a blue or black sport coat, it will be my choice.
Very nice review TGV. I treated myself for Christmas with an omiwatari and have to say I love it. I had not noticed the 3 positions of the crown but you are right, it wasn’t a fluke. Now I cannot unsee it but it doesn’t bother me all that much. I am not a fan of the strap though and will be looking for something else, a softer grey perhaps.
Thank-you again for a great video and it is apparent how much time and effort you put into making and editing these videos. As well, I admire you...you display, class and humility and have a way of discussing the pros and cons of watches explaining your reasons as you go in a direct but polite manner...best watch channel by far...best wishes for health and prosperity in 2022!
Really top notch way to start the year, TGV! Excellent production and introduction as always. Never cease to impress. Totally agree about the logo and branding shtick. They will never go with just GS on the dial though. Love the dial aesthetics but the shape and size are overwhelming for the piece. 38 would have been nice but 36 would be perfect. You did a very fair review. I learned a great deal especially about the polishing. That could put one off a GS for quite a bit. Thank you as always. Very very well done. Hope the new year finds you and yours well. Onwards and upwards, my friend!
Great review. The lack of skeletonization on the movement is such a bummer on these! There's so much to see back there, but all we get is a big ol' bridge plate. Beautiful dial, of course, but there's more to a watch at this price point. Bravo!
Another great and honest review and video! I of course disagree with some observations (eg size doesn’t matter to me), but love the subtlety and style of Grand Seiko including spring drive, automatic/mechanical and quartz!
It's surprising to see as many negatives as you did, but after you explained them, i must agree. I love Seiko and really would love to see a GS in the metal, there is a boutique in Toronto Canada that i have hopes in visiting this coming summer, i will go with a pocketful of money ( haha, i can't say that without laughing... ;) ) I still feel if you get the right GS it is a lifetime watch, but there are so many good ones out there one really can't be reserved by one brand. TGV i want to say thank you for all the amazing information you have shared, it has made my journey into watches so much better. You exhibit class and decency at every turn, and i know it has taught us to be better people, kinder, wiser, and to show grace instead of being crass and ugly. I hope 2022 is the year of your dreams, i send you peace and friendship.
TGV - what a beautiful timepiece, the 30 metre water resistance is fine for me, I wouldn’t swim or take it on the boat. It is SO Nice, you must remember also that in Japan a lot of luxury watches sold are given as gifts and if this was received as a gift, it would be an honour to wear it! It is still a tradition also by small to larger companies to present these watches to employees for service given. If you think a rolly, brietling or panerai is luxury it just may well be a perspective not based on total craftsmanship. This particular model may have started out as a JDM piece and it evolved into other markets. GS - Grand Seiko May not be seen like other brands to westerners, but is utmostly respected and honoured in its home country 🤗🇯🇵- ....average Joe ain’t buying a Grand Seiko but that’s ok because the real watch lovers are buying them!!
For a dial to be that clean under that level of macro... astounding! These are fully hand finished and assembled in pretty small numbers, putting them on the level of JLC or steel Patek. I guarantee they have a smaller profit margin than either! Great watches, still overlooked in the west.
Great intro ! Wow ! Very nice. Rest of the video was excellent also. Thanks for honest opinions. Love Seikos, never will be able to afford a GS, but they are just exquisite 👍😎.
The Spring Drive movement simply does not get enough recognition for its incredible timekeeping mechanism. An electromagnetic feedback loop is a horological marvel that I wish I could see on more watches.
Great video, learned a lot as always. You do a great job of mixing a lighthearted approach to keep things interesting. Finding the balance between not sounding like you’re lecturing us, but at the same time point out it’s horological significance in multiple manners is very impressive. Not many can pull it off without putting the listener to sleep. But that’s why you are who you are💯🥇
Lovely review thank you. Must say, this is a bucket list watch for me, been admiring it for some time!! Along with the Safari it would be a great addition to my collection. Awesome production of the video btw. Absolute class!
I've been watching your reviews for a while now and thoroughly enjoy your stylish presentation. This episode is excellent and the background history of the GS watches will hopefully entice those who don't know to look further. I recently purchased the Shirakaba (SLGH005). Otherwise known as the White Birch. I wore it today for the first time... it is truly stunning on the wrist. A masterpiece in watch making. Surely this will be a future classic. An 80 hour time reserve too. The dial reflects the light in such a way as to subtly change colour depending on the light and its surroundings.. from silver to gold. And it was Mens Watch of 2021 at the recent awards. No, it's not cheap. But it is in the same league as watches 3 or 4 times its cost. Like you, I have a collection of 60s Constellations and Seamasters and love their size and classical lines. Sure the White Birch is large at 40mm but it wears really well and I have small wrists. Check one out if you can find one.
Yet another great video, TGV! Watching your last video, I saw you featured a glimpse of your DVD collection, something you've done before. I, and I'm guess most other here too, am a huge cinema lover; it would be fantastic to hear more about your clear love for it. If talking about films you like sounds of interest, perhaps making a 'DVD SOTC' (state of the collection) video could be fun? In any case, I wish you, and everyone too, a fantastic 2022!
Beautiful! I'll never understand why Seiko insists in putting their straps backwards. I know it is related to the buckle being easier to operate that way , but it looks odd when wristed. Easy fix though
Not just Seiko, but other Japanese brands too (Orient Star). It's a JDM thing, apparently it's so the tail-end and keepers are not visible to others. Gives those around you the cleaner presentation, rather than yourself. I keep them that way, as the clasp is backwards and awkward to close. Easy "fix" by swapping the buckle or entire strap.
@@smokincooks7661 Yes I know it's not exclusive to Seiko. The easiest fix would be to just change both strap positions. It is a little bit more "awkward" to close, but I actually think it is just a matter of getting used to it. The backwards "GS" doesn't bother me. The keepers and tail on the wrong side definitely bothers me more. I'm just so used to the regular strap position, don't see a need to change it. But it's not that big of a deal, of course. I'm sure some people prefer it and there's nothing wrong with that.
Absolutely maddening. I don't want to reverse the strap because then the signed buckle is upside down, and for the money these command, I shouldn't have to purchase a new strap. The tail should be secured away from me, not obtrusively on the inside of my wrist. A deal breaker? I can't decide... but probably.
U nailed it talking about monetary value VS name brand, certainly if I have 8-9G that I can spend on a time piece it would be on the Milgauss blue with green crystal after some saving for sure. I do have a request though TGV, Alpina is on the rise especially after being bought by Citizen, would u be able to make an overall Alpina review with some focus on the new turtle/cushion style models. Thanks a ton my friend and happy new year to you. Mohamed
Excellent video TGV. I do love my Grand Seiko Spring Drive. I understand all the negatives here, particularly the water resistance. The delicate polishing is what it is I suppose. The size is likely a negative for some but a positive for others. With an 8" wrist I have a preference for the larger size. The ghost position is a mystery, maybe there is a technical reason for this particular movement. 🤔. The dial is a beautiful thing to behold. And yes, for that price it should have a higher water resistance number and they should at the very least explain what the ghost position is for. I can't imagine it being a fault considering how few of these watches are made, but definitely worth finding out. Finally having had an extremely active weekend trekking in the Taurus Mountains with my G-Shock Mudmaster, there's nothing better than relaxing with a cup of freshly ground Nicaraguan coffee in front of the TV watching your video. Happy New Year and looking forward to seeing your 2022 videos.
I was looking at watches this afternoon, in a few jeweller's in my local city. They had just got in a display of Hamiltons, many of which were really nice.
Love your videos, but what I like the most is the sound! Very well recorded. I went to a local shop here in Brazil to see the GS in person. This particular watch of this video, very well made, but as we say here: unsalted. Among the GS in the shop, the GMT with dark blue dial was the most beatiful. What a watch! I know it is a high end watch, but here in Brazil its price is very close to a Rolex, what is a problem, specially for a first luxury watch buyer. GS brand has not the same weight out side of Japan as a Rolex.
Love that clean dial without a date window another excellent video brotha 🇮🇹. I am definitely going to add a Fortis B-42 or Stratoliner chronograph at some point
@urbangentry, that is not a ghost position. It is a feature/winding function. it is required to get the watch winding when it has run out of power. pulling it out and pushing it in emits a small charge that gets the seconds hand running, after which the watch can safely be wound. so it is not in fact, a ghost position.
He didn't even read the manual
Love the balanced review, TGV! I almost pulled the trigger on this piece, mostly because of the common perception that the power reserve on a GS dial is something of an ‘atrocity’ to a lot of people and that this model is an answer to those looking for more symmetry and cleanliness on the dial. But when it comes to GS, my first love is always the SBGA413 ‘Spring’, so I finally pulled the trigger on that one. I actually love the power reserve display as it breaks the symmetry and makes the dial more interesting. The case on the SBGA413 also has more of a presence on the wrist. I actually did try the SBGY007 on the wrist for comparison, and I find it underwhelming as it doesn’t grab my attention. But my eyes kept coming back to SBGA413 hahaha. But I do see why a lot of people would love it, though. On paper, it’s perfect (except for that splash proof part). But I always believe that I should try the thing on first because that’s when I know whether or not the watch is for me. Thanks!
Those are my two favorite GS too! I'm thinking of buying both eventually:) I think they're distinct enough that one can have both, one daily and one dress watch. First the 'spring' tho, on that I agree
A great video to kick off the year. The effort you go into to produce and edit your videos to such a high standard is really appreciated.
I’m not typically a dress watch guy but this is one of my favorite watches to come out this year! Amazing video quality as always!
I bought the limited edition (140 pieces) SBGW275 recently. It's one of the most beautiful pieces I own. Paid $4900 but am selling it for $8400. I bought it for my wife but when it arrived she said it was too big for her wrist (she's a miniature version of a real person). Going rate for that piece is $9k+ right now.
Even with all the “negatives” I think this is the GS i’ve been looking for. Thanks for the detailed review TGV 👍🏽
You're living up to your channel name.
The editing in that intro was incredible! Watch reviews don’t require any of that extra work but you always go above and beyond
I have only recently seen this channel - now subscribed - but wanted to comment on the Date Ghost position. I have just checked my own example and it definitely does NOT have a ghost position, so either later models changed or there was a fault in the example reviewed.
I am surprised however that the biggest drawback was not mentioned - the bulk of the clasp makes the watch feel much more bulky than it is. But the cure is simple and free, swap the strap arms about so the loose end is in the more conventional European 'outside' rather than the Japanese 'inside'. This trick courtesy of the retailer I viewed and purchased from.
After looking at pretty much everything the store had, the Omiwatari is surely the true spirit of the movement and I was just blown away with it. I already have two other dress watches, but this was just too beautiful. I think your review was absolutely spot on. A classic case of less is more I feel.
Beautifully made review T, I loved it! The dials on these things are absolutely amazing! A Grand S is coming in the collection one day!!!
I’m quite surprised TGV that value was one of the negatives. Believe this will rocket forward in years to come. But your conclusion is spot on. Best for 2022 to you/family and the channel, as it’s you that got me into serious collecting about 5 years ago and thank you for that.
The relaxed, detailed and consice way, you analyse a watch, is behond reproach.
While many have come and gone over the multiple years I've watched your channel, you remain my all-time favourite horological critic, Tristiano. Thanks for an absolutely fabulous intro, which set this polar piece up perfectly, and all the detail, plus honesty shared throughout. This is a GS I've had my eyes on, but must admit that it's priced higher than I'd like to go for a watch type I don't wear out all that often. I also agree with your assessment regarding size. I have a small collection of '50s and '60s era dress pieces, ranging from 34-36mm, and my vintage-style OrientStar Classic is starting to feel a bit clumsy by comparison. This has been my issue with most every dress watch in recent years, from the humble Bambino to pricier items from Tissot's Visodate, various FCs, and most GS models. They're just too big for my 6.5-inch wrist, which is why I've been enjoying vintage pieces so much, plus a few newer Timex Marlin Reissues, a lovely Mido Commander 1959, etc. Let's hope GS hears our call for something in the 36mm range. I think it would be a massive hit, especially in Seiko's home market. Anyway, I thank you for this review and the many others you've shared over the years, which have enhanced my watch collecting journey immeasurably. All the best to you and yours for 2022!
Thank you for great video and review. I am really impressed your deeply understanding our Japanese culture. I have original 44GS and reviewed in my channel, it's so sharp and brilliant which is exactly same as SBGY007. I hope you can travel to Japan this year.
wow, what an intro. the king strikes yet again. I have paused at 0:46, left speechless for such beauty.
Great vid TGV. There’s one main nagging doubt about jumping into GS for me atm, aside from many of the designs not quite hitting the sweet spot to my taste (of course very subjective, there are certainly some I like). That one thing being….
If an Omega/Zenith/Rolex/JLC etc similarly priced Swiss watch goes wrong, there is a service centre in the UK. It stays local (ish), the turn around is pretty quick if it has to go back. Anyone who’s collected watches for any time will know that even new ones occasionally have to go back under warranty. All the GS Spring Drive ones have to go back to Japan as far as I can tell. This seems a huge floor in their current set up. One I’m sure they will work to address. But knowing the company is there for me if things aren’t quite right is an important factor to me at least when buying new. If they want to compete with all the other brands, they need to up their game on not just the watches as a product but on their aftercare too.
I'm not familiar with UK, but in the US we have a service center in NJ that is able to service most GSs, including a "light polish" that falls short of zaratsu. Zaratsu polishing has to go back to Japan, and is an additional cost of around $700, not including insurance and import duties (which is significant). Pretty expensive considering typical GS prices, but the watch comes back essentially new.
There was a thread on watchuseek where a jeweler sent a used Spring Drive to Seiko USA for a polish, then to Japan for proper zaratsu just to see the difference, and long story short, the additional $$$ seems to be worth the money, especially if done every decade or so. That being said, I believe the NJ service center has since updated their equipment and is able to get close enough to zaratsu that you can't tell the difference without macro. But still, I plan on getting mine serviced and refinished in Japan every 10y or so if it's still running fine.
Thread is below. Original pics seem to have disappeared, but someone else has before/after pics of their own SD on page 6 which conveys the same the point.
www.watchuseek.com/threads/the-zaratsu-journey-a-real-life-experience-with-grand-seiko-s-polishing-service-update-2-5.2371082/
I'm not sure if GS has exploded in Europe like in the US, but if sales start skyrocketing, I'm sure they will follow up with a EU service center as well.
There are several GS stores in UK plus the postal service back & forth from Japan is so good it usually arrives back the day before it's sent, (joke), especially when a shop has branches in Japan & a trade/postal corridor. I was once told by The Real Mccoy's UK that my in shop order would take just two days to arrive in shop from Japan I thought they were kidding until it arrived two days later...
As far as I know they do not need to go back to Japan if you are based in North America or Europe and can be serviced in local service centres. They do if you need the watch polished but not for mechanical or spring drive issues. FWIW, the spring drive does not appear particularly complicated. It uses clever components technically but a mechanical escapement on a traditional watch is just as complex .
@@UnknownUser-rb9pd I've been in forums where they had to go back, even heard of a Silver Birch (not Spring Drive) having to go back to Japan because it wasnt keeping time on the week of purchase.
The King of DAYZ loves a cheeky watch vid!!
The reason for the second ghost position in to be able to get a better stop hack at the 12 when setting the watch. If there were a ghost date you would feel the date mechanism when setting the watch. This is purely for time setting accuracy, imo its a really cool function.
Non clicking is not considered a position.
I saw this watch and put it on yesterday at my local Grand Seiko dealer and its truly amazing in person. like a lot of watches pictures and videos don't do it justice.
How much is it?
I just wanted to say thank you for such a tasteful, informed, non-obnoxious grown up review, without a patronising thumbnail and one which doesn’t start with the camera facing the wrong bloody way round. It is greatly appreciated.
May I ask your opinion please on a buying decision between the Omiwatari or the VC Fiftysix?
This is such a lovely piece. It's sad some people will never understand or appreciate the concept of wabi sabi. For me, it's such a fundamental concept in understanding Japanese art and design. As far as your next GS piece... imagine an SBGN003 with a spring drive, display caseback, and bi-directional bezel. Not to mention micro-adjustable clasp! A guy can dream.
Two years ago I started watching your channel, and went down the Seiko rabbit hole, bought six Seiko's and have my goal on a 1959 Alpinist, which will buy me the way out of the hole. But NOW THIS? definitely will never get out, amazing dial and the Spring drive is stunning, it's really magic on the wrist
Enjoyed the balanced take on this stunner. Despite the negatives, this one is on my list as a dress piece. Thanks for the vid!
Grand Seiko is breathtaking. This Omiwatari is another example of the symbiosis between GS and it’s surroundings. They respect nature and reproduce it in their products. That dial is mesmerising. Too bad about the ‘splash resistance’ but fine.
The movement is a perfect merger of mechanical and electro mechanical engineering. I have a deep respect for this.
Thanks for this lovely review and informative background information.
I wish you the very best for 2022, lots of watch time and of course good health!
Love the video TGV! Just bought one and look forward to wearing it at my wedding in October!
That intro was incredible. Better than what the actual watch brands produce. Had to watch it twice.
Terrific summation. What I love about this release from Grand Seiko mirrors my enthusiasm for the Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Control line; understated, refined elegance that is beautiful and classy without any ego-stroking “look at my expensive watch!” bloat. I really dig this watch. Well done!
Your review and choice of words are so balanced and unbiased. Thank you for a great review.
That intro just pulls me in. Great visuals. Grand Seiko just moves something in me. Maybe. One day.
Really love that Fortis. Would love to add a Grand Seiko at some point but drawn to the more vintage models. Having said that that dial is just amazing. Hope you and your family had a great holiday.
Fortis is one of the most underrated Swiss brands, love the color themes and the clear white contrast they always have on their dials.
Looks like playwatch compered to the GS!
Thank you for this complete , clear presentation
Classic urban gentry
Good show TGV
Happy new year HUGO🦖
Tristano your video editing is getting continually better! you're clearly passionate about it and I enjoy your music, intros, and and edits.
What a timepiece, perfect balance of fine finishing and engineering, looks like I’ll definitely consider getting one in the near future
All the best to you and your family in 2022 sir. It's a stunning watch. I understand your reservations about the finishing. It's like being given a hypercar to test drive for everyday use but being told whatever you do don't scratch it. Far from comfortable. As you know I love Japanese watches so even given the negatives I'd love it, although I agree smaller size wouldnt go amiss. As with the many other previous years videos sublime video. Great production, knowledge. Look forward to another year of great videos and good health to you 🥂
That Grand Seiko is gorgeous. Love the comparisons with the SARB033. That watch still to this day remains my one and only watch because of this channel. I am lusting for more Seiko's (in particular the SPB143/SSC813) but I might just stick with my one watch collection forever and be happy. Keep up the good work TGV and Happy New Year!
Thank you Kevin, the SARB033 is indeed a classic. Thankfully it is in my wife's collection now so I still get to see it on the weekend 😉😂. Honestly it is the only watch you need as you can do everything with it. Enjoy and wear it with pride my friend, that watch really changed my life and my love for Seiko.
Best regards,
TGV
Brilliant intros. The quality of videos are soooo good. Content is good, too. I just realllly wish he’d stop gatekeeping horology and watch enthusiasm so much. The videos are sooooo good without that. Intros and music and production are always excellent.
@@theurbangentry Have you ever had a chance to wear the SARB021, or any of the other colorways? It was a tough decision for me, between the 033 and the 021.
I chose the 021 for the case and hands/indices. I love how they float above the space-black dial.
I have an 033 too and it’s my go too watch
Anyone know the intro music?
TGV consistently kicking it off with bangers...
Happy New Year, TGV and welcome back. Great video to kick off 2022!
Dear TGV, what I especially love about your channel: Your genuine interest in different countries' art, craftsmanship culture and history. I understand from your family background, you're especially interested in both Italian and German culture. (Beside English culture, that is.) Nevertheless, whenever discussing high quality watchmaking, you never fail to go the extra mile. You never forget to give a little extra info on the watchmakers' company, site, region or country. Quite lovely. Enough ingratiating myself, lol. Keep up the good work and all the best for 2022 and the following years. Many greetings from Germany.
Good afternoon TGV! That was one review I was waiting for! Thank you for the balanced review of the Grand Seiko, highlighting both the positives and negatives. For example, I would not have thought that the SBGY007 should be treated with such care, so thank you for the valuable advice! Have a great day! Best regards!
This model compelled me to buy a dress watch after I sold all my previous dress watches when I retired. Beautiful.
Your intros are amazing TGV. Sending some love ❤️
you’re such a cultured gentleman, i greatly appreciate your content!
Cheers, mate. Thanks for covering this. I'm about to be $8300 poorer...
Your show and the topic of watches always calms my nerves. Here's to a hopeful new year!
Thank you TGV! What a stunning watch review! Stay healthy and well in the new year! Nicholas Letser
I think you may enjoy the SLGA007. A bit quirky with respects to case shape, bracelet and oversized crown, but dial is other worldly and the movement is superb. I agree with your assessment on this piece and enjoyed the journey you took us regarding the relevant history. Would love to see you review the SLGA007 and see what you think of it! Cheers and Happy New Year to you and yours!
Haven’t they already all been spoken for? Or can they actually be found at any ADs/boutiques?
I have to say the SLGA007 is breathtaking.
My giddy aunt, what an intro TGV! Fantastico.
That sarb on the green crocodile strap “chef kiss”
Beautiful watch and a really great review; I so appreciate the objectivity and enthusiasm. Great intro here too!
Stunning intro, TGV. You're really doing some great work at the moment.
The intros keep getting better and better, awesome editing work!
Always a joy to see a new video from you. Once again, very well presented and argumented.
Happy New Year TGV! Sitting in Germany at 10°C (50°F) I enjoyed the Japanese winter impressions in your Intro, once again perfectly introducing and framing the timepiece at hand.
TGV old chap, wonderful intro, your best yet. Almost detracted from the watch. As usual a very balanced and informative video.
Another beautiful piece from GS. The dial colour and application of the indices are of the quality that we have all come to expect.
The movement decoration is incredible.
The dial texture softly reflects the light. Depending on the angle it shifts from a very soft pastel blue/grey to a creamy pearl white.
The high polish cushion like case is beautiful but a finger print/scratch magnet. But I love it. Can't afford it but love it .
Onwards and upwards.
Thanks TGV, you gave us deep insight and also your personal opinion about the positives and negatives of this GS spring drive watch. Very informative and I would like more of this. All the best to you!
Cheers for getting your hands on so many watches you love and feel passionately about! I feel the same about this Android AD384 lefty chronograph I just picked up, its wicked!
Excellent video. The Omiwatari is my goal for 2022. For all the reasons you’ve listed and more. Everything about this piece screams (or rather whispers) understated elegance for those in the know. Thanks for another great review. 😎👍🏼
Did you get it
Classic design but for me a 38 mm would have been better, glad they have now put the power reserve pointer on the back as it makes the dial look a lot cleaner
Great review as always and happy new year
The production quality of the start of the video is just another level of brilliant. I do truly believe GS is fabulous but would like to see them do some more complications, I like busy, interesting dials.
Mate, truly appreciate your videos for deviating from the usual talk. Adding the cultural and artistic information to what I can see when going to the AD myself (size, movement, etc) is making your reviews value added and enjoyable. Keep up the great work.
Great video, thanks. I've watched a lot of videos featuring various GS models, and I have just bought the SBGE269 Toji. One observation - a lot of comments complain about the size, but none of the reviewers make the point that the marvellous Spring Drive is very complex and needs the room. The model you've reviewed here does not have the automatic movement, so one piece of thickness can be removed, but spring drive is always going to take up space.
I’m impressed with your knowledge and story telling. Great video.
so close to beat 500k!!!congratulations sir and wish the best in new year....
Another talented and classy intro. Not to mention the content. TGV your education shines through. Love it!
🙏🙏🙏 Mission complete. Thank you so much, that makes it all worth it.
Best regards,
TGV
I would love to see you review the new omega aqua Terra small second. That aqua Terra line has been used by omega so many times to bring back their older seamaster designs and would love to hear your opinion on it
I understand your point about price and resale and is a valid and reasonable point of view (unfortunately in my opinion this is the way society works). I'm an outlier and always asses anything for what it is and not for what other tells it should be. Would this approach cost me money, well some times, but the feeling of being the only judge of what I really appreciate is priceless.
Mr. TGV, speaking of watch price is not vulgar its part of the hobby and everyone knows that it is probably one of the most important part of the hobby.
Just bought one for my wife and myself. Having been a big Rolex guy (6), this is a very refreshing time piece that screams class, vs a sub, or even a datejust. We are not rich but can have a few nice things. Will it be my favorite everyday driver? Probably not. When I put on a blue or black sport coat, it will be my choice.
Very nice review TGV. I treated myself for Christmas with an omiwatari and have to say I love it. I had not noticed the 3 positions of the crown but you are right, it wasn’t a fluke. Now I cannot unsee it but it doesn’t bother me all that much. I am not a fan of the strap though and will be looking for something else, a softer grey perhaps.
Thank-you again for a great video and it is apparent how much time and effort you put into making and editing these videos.
As well, I admire you...you display, class and humility and have a way of discussing the pros and cons of watches explaining your reasons as you go in a direct but polite manner...best watch channel by far...best wishes for health and prosperity in 2022!
Lovely watch, great review....debating a GS in the meantime when I wake up in the morning and squint at my SNKL41 I too get that GS vibe....
tgv back again with his insane intros. No idea how he makes such interesting videos but he does it every damn time
Really top notch way to start the year, TGV! Excellent production and introduction as always. Never cease to impress. Totally agree about the logo and branding shtick. They will never go with just GS on the dial though. Love the dial aesthetics but the shape and size are overwhelming for the piece. 38 would have been nice but 36 would be perfect. You did a very fair review. I learned a great deal especially about the polishing. That could put one off a GS for quite a bit. Thank you as always. Very very well done. Hope the new year finds you and yours well. Onwards and upwards, my friend!
Great review. The lack of skeletonization on the movement is such a bummer on these! There's so much to see back there, but all we get is a big ol' bridge plate. Beautiful dial, of course, but there's more to a watch at this price point. Bravo!
Another great and honest review and video!
I of course disagree with some observations (eg size doesn’t matter to me), but love the subtlety and style of Grand Seiko including spring drive, automatic/mechanical and quartz!
Back to your very best here - good work
That watch is incredible under the closeups...truly remarkable.
It's surprising to see as many negatives as you did, but after you explained them, i must agree. I love Seiko and really would love to see a GS in the metal, there is a boutique in Toronto Canada that i have hopes in visiting this coming summer, i will go with a pocketful of money ( haha, i can't say that without laughing... ;) ) I still feel if you get the right GS it is a lifetime watch, but there are so many good ones out there one really can't be reserved by one brand.
TGV i want to say thank you for all the amazing information you have shared, it has made my journey into watches so much better. You exhibit class and decency at every turn, and i know it has taught us to be better people, kinder, wiser, and to show grace instead of being crass and ugly. I hope 2022 is the year of your dreams, i send you peace and friendship.
TGV - what a beautiful timepiece, the 30 metre water resistance is fine for me, I wouldn’t swim or take it on the boat. It is SO Nice, you must remember also that in Japan a lot of luxury watches sold are given as gifts and if this was received as a gift, it would be an honour to wear it!
It is still a tradition also by small to larger companies to present these watches to employees for service given. If you think a rolly, brietling or panerai is luxury it just may well be a perspective not based on total craftsmanship. This particular model may have started out as a JDM piece and it evolved into other markets. GS - Grand Seiko May not be seen like other brands to westerners, but is utmostly respected and honoured in its home country 🤗🇯🇵- ....average Joe ain’t buying a Grand Seiko but that’s ok because the real watch lovers are buying them!!
For a dial to be that clean under that level of macro... astounding! These are fully hand finished and assembled in pretty small numbers, putting them on the level of JLC or steel Patek. I guarantee they have a smaller profit margin than either! Great watches, still overlooked in the west.
Very beautiful watch!! Great video my friend! Cheers. Hope you have a prosperous 2022!
I think GS IS OUTRAGEOUS - LOVE
it- I’m with you 37mm is spot on for me - thanks for bring size to the table.
Great intro ! Wow ! Very nice. Rest of the video was excellent also. Thanks for honest opinions. Love Seikos, never will be able to afford a GS, but they are just exquisite 👍😎.
Beautiful intro. These videos and reviews get better every time.
Thx TGV for the video!!! Very nice, like always!
The Spring Drive movement simply does not get enough recognition for its incredible timekeeping mechanism. An electromagnetic feedback loop is a horological marvel that I wish I could see on more watches.
It's a fancy, overcomplicated quartz movement, calm down.
@@Schleberger No.
Great video, learned a lot as always. You do a great job of mixing a lighthearted approach to keep things interesting. Finding the balance between not sounding like you’re lecturing us, but at the same time point out it’s horological significance in multiple manners is very impressive. Not many can pull it off without putting the listener to sleep. But that’s why you are who you are💯🥇
Lovely review thank you. Must say, this is a bucket list watch for me, been admiring it for some time!! Along with the Safari it would be a great addition to my collection. Awesome production of the video btw. Absolute class!
I've been watching your reviews for a while now and thoroughly enjoy your stylish presentation. This episode is excellent and the background history of the GS watches will hopefully entice those who don't know to look further. I recently purchased the Shirakaba (SLGH005). Otherwise known as the White Birch. I wore it today for the first time... it is truly stunning on the wrist. A masterpiece in watch making. Surely this will be a future classic. An 80 hour time reserve too. The dial reflects the light in such a way as to subtly change colour depending on the light and its surroundings.. from silver to gold. And it was Mens Watch of 2021 at the recent awards. No, it's not cheap. But it is in the same league as watches 3 or 4 times its cost. Like you, I have a collection of 60s Constellations and Seamasters and love their size and classical lines. Sure the White Birch is large at 40mm but it wears really well and I have small wrists. Check one out if you can find one.
Yet another great video, TGV! Watching your last video, I saw you featured a glimpse of your DVD collection, something you've done before. I, and I'm guess most other here too, am a huge cinema lover; it would be fantastic to hear more about your clear love for it. If talking about films you like sounds of interest, perhaps making a 'DVD SOTC' (state of the collection) video could be fun?
In any case, I wish you, and everyone too, a fantastic 2022!
Absolutely gorgeous watch... Some day maybe I'll get a grand seiko....
Once again the production quality is that much better than most. Excellent music selections.
Thank you Steve, I always appreciate that. O&U!
Best regards,
TGV
Beautiful! I'll never understand why Seiko insists in putting their straps backwards. I know it is related to the buckle being easier to operate that way , but it looks odd when wristed. Easy fix though
Not just Seiko, but other Japanese brands too (Orient Star).
It's a JDM thing, apparently it's so the tail-end and keepers are not visible to others. Gives those around you the cleaner presentation, rather than yourself. I keep them that way, as the clasp is backwards and awkward to close. Easy "fix" by swapping the buckle or entire strap.
@@smokincooks7661 Yes I know it's not exclusive to Seiko. The easiest fix would be to just change both strap positions. It is a little bit more "awkward" to close, but I actually think it is just a matter of getting used to it. The backwards "GS" doesn't bother me. The keepers and tail on the wrong side definitely bothers me more. I'm just so used to the regular strap position, don't see a need to change it. But it's not that big of a deal, of course. I'm sure some people prefer it and there's nothing wrong with that.
Absolutely maddening. I don't want to reverse the strap because then the signed buckle is upside down, and for the money these command, I shouldn't have to purchase a new strap. The tail should be secured away from me, not obtrusively on the inside of my wrist. A deal breaker? I can't decide... but probably.
U nailed it talking about monetary value VS name brand, certainly if I have 8-9G that I can spend on a time piece it would be on the Milgauss blue with green crystal after some saving for sure. I do have a request though TGV, Alpina is on the rise especially after being bought by Citizen, would u be able to make an overall Alpina review with some focus on the new turtle/cushion style models. Thanks a ton my friend and happy new year to you. Mohamed
I like the explanation of Japanese culrure within this review 👍🏻
Excellent video TGV. I do love my Grand Seiko Spring Drive. I understand all the negatives here, particularly the water resistance. The delicate polishing is what it is I suppose. The size is likely a negative for some but a positive for others. With an 8" wrist I have a preference for the larger size. The ghost position is a mystery, maybe there is a technical reason for this particular movement. 🤔. The dial is a beautiful thing to behold. And yes, for that price it should have a higher water resistance number and they should at the very least explain what the ghost position is for. I can't imagine it being a fault considering how few of these watches are made, but definitely worth finding out. Finally having had an extremely active weekend trekking in the Taurus Mountains with my G-Shock Mudmaster, there's nothing better than relaxing with a cup of freshly ground Nicaraguan coffee in front of the TV watching your video. Happy New Year and looking forward to seeing your 2022 videos.
what a intro!! So classy!
I was looking at watches this afternoon, in a few jeweller's in my local city. They had just got in a display of Hamiltons, many of which were really nice.
Love your videos, but what I like the most is the sound! Very well recorded. I went to a local shop here in Brazil to see the GS in person. This particular watch of this video, very well made, but as we say here: unsalted.
Among the GS in the shop, the GMT with dark blue dial was the most beatiful. What a watch!
I know it is a high end watch, but here in Brazil its price is very close to a Rolex, what is a problem, specially for a first luxury watch buyer. GS brand has not the same weight out side of Japan as a Rolex.
Love that clean dial without a date window another excellent video brotha 🇮🇹. I am definitely going to add a Fortis B-42 or Stratoliner chronograph at some point
Lovely review, keep up the good work. Gotta get a spring drive one day, really fascinating movement and piece of engineering.
Awesome review. I love my GS SBGA415 Winter dial! I got it last year, my daily driver!