Fender Bassbreaker 30 vs. Hot Rod Deluxe - Battle of the Mid-Price Classics!
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A highly requested video, Rob & Lee pit two mighty Fender amps against one another; the Bassbreaker 30 and the Hot Rod Deluxe.
Fender’s latest addition to their popular Bassbreaker range, the 30R, is a mash-up of the Bassbreaker 15 and 18/30 models. Fender have taken the reverb and high-gain capabilities that made the 15 popular and put it in a 30-watt, two channel amp. With great clean tones and impressive higher gain sounds that you usually don’t expect with Fender, the Bassbreaker 30R is a true workhorse amp.
The Hot Rod Deluxe is one of the worlds most famous and popular amps and has been for a long time - and for good reason. What makes the Hot Rod Deluxe such a popular amp is the fact that it has enough headroom to get a fantastic clean sound at high volumes. In turn, this means it takes pedals incredibly well. It gives all pedals a great platform to truly shine and sound the way they were designed to sound.
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The pink cable sounds wayyyyyy better than the green one.
Oh no... Pretty much all my cables are black, so Iam I doomed??? PLS HELP!
more cables, less clerks
The pattern on the carpet has a pretty big impact too!
No way, the shrubbery close to the pink cable is affecting it
Rob’s “I enjoyed your playing man” was a really nice, genuine touch. Top man, Rob.
was about to make the same comment!! and gotta give a round of applause to Lee, his playing, as good as it was, has improved noticeably in the last couple years, so soulful, assertive and gutsy! kudos and thanks!
‘One mans crunch is another mans distortion ‘ 😂😂 tweed deluxe reissue thanks! Great intro.
Lee, your playing has become incredible, when you started stacking your pedals, the tone emitting from the HRD with that beautiful Tele in your hands, was just beyond words. Amazing job 👍!
couldn't agree more!
I got the V4 Hot Rod Deluxe and it’s just so great with pedals. Don’t even use the drive channel. Just the clean. And it sounds good at home or cranked.
Yeah I played one at the jam space and was VERY impressed with how well it took pedals and sounded great.
LOVE MY HRDX VERSION 3..
Can you play the deluxe at home with no volume problems? I’ve got the blues DeVille and it’s just so damn loud..
Why you go for that instead of deluxe reverb if you're not using the drive?
mikecantreed because it’s way cheaper?
I also don’t touch the drive channel on my Blues DeVille.
The „normal“ channel has more than enough thick Clapton style gain if you turn it up past 5.
I'm not sure if "spontaneous-lee" was entirely intentional but that was a really witty comeback
8:03 Halfway Clean on the Bassbreaker
10:33 Halfway Clean on the Deluxe
12:19 Distortion on the Deluxe
5:48 Distortion on the Bassbreaker
I have had the Bassbreaker 30r for a year now and I cannot recommend it enough. Not only is it great for the price, it gives you everything that you will ever ask from a tube amp
When I was in he market for a new amp I tested the HRDIV vs the III and the Bassbreaker 30. I'm a pedal guy, so the HDRIV won hands down. Love that amp. What suprised me though was the difference in the perceived build quality between the HDR and the BB was huge, the BB just felt way cheaper. Just me, or has anyone else noticed this?
That Tele and Bassbreaker are a killer combination. Mind-blowing stuff!
I've got the BB 30r. It's exactly what I wanted Fender to offer because I liked the BB 15w so much, and the 30r, imo, is an improved BB15w
Is it playable at home without annoying the neighbours?
@@KaizenOz Yes, it is. That was a worry I had about the amp, but i have no problem keeping the volume under control. It can get loud, but it's quiet enough to play without ticking people off
The captains playing is so much more fluid! Guys lessons with Justin are praying off! And chappers is just as great as ever. Thanks for these comparison videos guys!
Terry v I think it’s the Ariel lesson that made most the difference. Pete too. Justin is meh
When they tried to play surf its the first time I actually felt better about my playing while watching an Andertons videos
I get you, so freaking much...
Bassbreaker seems more versatile but I like both.
@Nintariz threw*
@Nintariz yeah, but heavy spring never really plays nice with heavy distortion, hall reverb does. On top of that your argument can also be used against you, look up analog spring reverb pedals and you can buy one of those. And cleans are subjective, if someone prefers the cleans in the other amp suddenly you have a sweep in favor of the other amp.
@@shaingustin3032 Throw.
Shain "Throw"!
I was looking for a new amp a couple months back and came across the first demo video from Anderton's of the bassbreaker 30 and i loved it. Bought one a week later (here in the US for $850) and cant be happier. Goes great with my tele, my gretsch hollow body, and anything else i plug into it!
Lee's country/blues playing is getting really nice!
Man, there is just something to the appearance of the Bassbreaker that really puts me off, but man, those crunch and driven tones are great. Dig it man, sounds like a winner to me!
I’ve owned several Fender amps including the Hot Rod Deluxe and the only one I’ve kept with no plan to part with is the Bassbreaker. I loved the Hot Rod clean tones but was never able to dial in a useable overdrive tone. Bassbreaker has both.
It’s a pedal platform amp.
Now please do Marshall DSL vs Fender Bassbreaker.
They cant do that as the Marshall DSL sounds better for the dirt AND the clean AND its cheaper ;-)
Yes please guys do this review. .
they are completely different amps and its very simple to determine which one to get. If you want a marshall, get the marshall, and if you want the fender, get the fender.
In the blues just did DSL vs BB
i did an A/B in a shop with those 2 amps, the dsl was by FAR inferior in EVERY department! which was a shame, because i really wanted to get the dsl! it even looked crap with it's gloss finish! i also A/B/C it with a blackstar ht, the fender sounded better, but because it sits under a desk, i went with the blackstar as the controls were on the front and ended up getting that. but ive now had 2 of them go down on me, so i will now get the fender
I’ve been watching these for a couple of years now. Captain’s playing just gets better and more enjoyable all the time. Great guitar Rob!
To me, Rob's lead tone at 15:48 is absolutely perfect.
I have a Jensen voiced HRD and it's the most versatile amp I''ve ever owned. Wonderful cleans and a perfect pedal platform. There's a reason why it's a best seller - and the spring reverb is just sweet as anything. It'll do basically what you want. I don't think I'll ever want to change it.
The smiles on Rob's face throughout this episode. Golden.
In the opening jam, would that Rob’s cleanest sound ever show on RUclips?? 😆😆😆
Weird thing here: With the new Mustang GTX out, I pulled out my old GT 200 and started making up presets. When I tried out the Bassbreaker models, I was drawn to them instantly. They reminded me of my old Traynor twin, not so much the sound itself but the tubey matter-of-fact openness of the clean sound. Oddly, none of the factory presets are based on any of the Bassbreakers. I like the sound of this amp (in the video). Unfortunately, I already have "too many" amps, so happy trails to anyone who buys one.
HRD majority of time, love that amp with pedals.. for the other times I feel a little more aggressive, straight into a PRS MT-15.
I have both of these amps. My HRD is a USA 90’s model. Since getting my 30r the HRD is collecting dust. That said I still like the HRD; particularly with my pedal board. It’s just a pure sounding classic Fender clean. BUT the 30r is just so musical sounding...it inspires me to play differently every time I plug in which for me is the hallmark of a good piece of gear. I also have the BB15 which as Lee says doesn’t have a lot of clean headroom but I still love it too...
I just love the spring verb
Picked up a Fender HotRod 2nd hand last week. Will be using it at next gig with GT100 for my gain/effects 👍
first time in a while i've seen rob go without gain for more than a minute, good job chap
Would love to see the SuperSonic 22 comparison with those 2 amps🤟🏻
Not even really close piece wise but those amps are killer. I would say the supper sonic takes the best of hrd and the bass breaker. You get those classic cleans on the vibrolux/baseman Chanel. And then you get those sweet juicy gain tones. I’m looking to buy the 60 I would get the 22 but I don’t think the clean Chanel has enough headroom to play with a drummer.
Man you guys have a video for every bit of guitar gear I have ever wonder about I have learned so much from this channel and pretty much watch everyday keep up the good work 👍 😃
7:39 "...mega affordable tele"
*checks link*: £3779.00
@Mark Seymour Our UK sense of humour.
obvious sarcasm is obvious
Cheap as chips
Imagine what it must have cost before it got damaged.
mel obrien right I cant believe anyone would be so careless with such an awesome and expensive guitar ..😉...yeah I’m one of those guys , I can’t see buying a used guitar as a new and paying extra for it to be abused . They can make the neck and fretboard feel played in without making it look like a posers guitar
That intro was very Blind Melon-esque. Nice!
"Like a fender bassman and a Marshall bluesbreaker had a baby"
Actually a very apt description of the "bassbreaker"!
Great video guys I have to say the gain tone on the bass breaker is awesome !! It would be my choice out of the 2 amps here
Who doesn't like a nice big round bottom end?..........with headroom!
Why oh why does your glorious comment remind me of The Smiths' Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others?
I had the most fantastic idea for Chappers & The Captain! Have you seen any of these Sound Healing videos out there on the youtubes? Tuning forks, singing bowls?
If you added a few candles, put on some 2112 robes, and put someone on a massage table with a couple marshall stacks aimed at them... "well we tried the vox ac30 with a Brian May special but we could tell it wasn't hitting the 3rd chackra so now we're running a les paul through a fuzzface into a 200w marshall. We're pretty sure this is going to clear any chakra blockages..." Brrrrrrrrrrang!!!!!!
Cut to the poor subject between 2 massive amps with Chappers & Captain to either side (soft ASMR voice...) "sometimes rotovibe therapy is neccessary to clear away sharp cutting chi" and they both blast away each randomly changing their rotovibe pedal positions causing massive My Bloody Valentine phasing.
So many possibilities! A triumphant Anderton's sound healing video could very well break the internet itself!
Watch one of these "tuning fork healing" videos that are out there and you'll see what I'm talking about.
HRD drive channel secret-drive no higher than 3. Then crank the master to 6 and up. Sounds tons better.
I’ve owned 3 HRD amps over the years.
Tubes make a big difference.
Got the cash? NOS RCA Blackplates make a difference in the preamp. Currently I have one with 12ax7’s v1+2 and the other has 5751’s in v1+2.
Power tubes- I’m using the GT6L6GE tubes that sound excellent.
Don’t forget to play with their rating system. I’ve used every thing from #1 (quick breakup) to #10 (super clean).
You can hear the difference. Never had a power tube failure. Great tubes.
I play HRD4 with 12at7 in V1.. volume really usable.. I can play at home until 5 or 6.
Beautiful clean and with kind of plexitone pedal, it s the right deal.
Bought a BB15, sent it back..lots of hiss, poor reverb and not great clean. Got a Hot Rod Deluxe v4 and absolutely love it. Amazing clean, great drive and amazing with pedals..no competition.
Just wanted to put something out there. I got a BB30R because I loved the 15 so much but I wanted the foot switch options. It is not the same sounding amp. The 15 can get killer tones at low bedroom volumes while the 30 sounds fizzy and just off at minimum volumes. I do the occasional show so I was really wanting this to work for gig and bedroom, maybe if it had a half wattage switch I could make it work but bedroom players be aware.
Aaron Adams You’re right, good bit of advise.
JHS's Little Black Box? Looks like a worthy fix.
@@EddieOtool That is just like putting a volume pedal in the FX loop unfortunately, which still had it fizzy sounding at low volume. The only true fix is a full attenuator. I have one now, but I already have my heart set on another amp..
@@aaron_768 Yeah, of course if the fizzyness comes from the power tubes I guess that's helpless. I don't know a lot about attenuators, but I thought they were quite expensive (nearly as much as that amp itself) so it kinda defeats the purpose of the rig...
@@EddieOtool It depends on how many bells and whistles you want. I went with the bugera PS1. Phillip McKnight compared it against a full on product and for 100 bucks this thing is great.
HRD for me ,thanks guys !
Maybe you guys shoud try to use room mics more often when demonstrating amps, I feel like it helps better with getting an idea of the amp's sound (sorry if my english don't (doesn't ?) make sense)
You nailed it dude no worries. Good idea!
Moreover, while using the room mics, they should talk over them when discussing volume levels. Humans are designed to be able to judge the volume of human voices by their sounds, and, as such, having a comparison between amp level and unamplified voice level would be immediately instructive.
@@gmofftarki Sounds interesting, that could add something new to guitar/amp demos :)
5:14 Rob plays a riff that I can't explain the emotions I feel hearing it
You guys should do most expensive squire telecaster versus most expensive fender telecaster you guys have done les Paul’s, Stratocasters, and even SG’s I think it’s time to give tele some love
That opening playing you guys did really took me to a nice place beautiful.....
The cleans on the Bassbreaker sounded really flat initially, but when it was “half wayed” it came alive
I just got a Fender BandMaster VM 40 Watt head, I love it!
BuccaneerDave I have one and it’s awesome. Very different from my tweeds.
12:56 made me smile, great playing!
I still want both amps!
...here Rob, you can use My Jim Dunlop stubby 3.0.......( tosses plectrum at computer screen.....)
My mandolin pick.
@@9999plato ...
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works great for flat top's and tele's as well....my son came home with one, I'd never seen one, but had noticed myself waiting for my nylon pick to snap back while picking.....
...doubled my picking speed overnight.....
"For someone who wants a nice big round bottom-end with head room" - Lee 2019
I have a fender bass breaker and my only complain is the issues with the reverb. Mine I had to spend a lot of money to repair and it was almost brand new. The reverb was bringing a lot of noise to the sound.
Reverb sounds like a bit problem when it's working
When Chappers leans his head forward he looks more like Elvis Costello ever year. Lee's playing is my favorite style. I could listen to Lee and/or Pete for an hour. Then want the tabs to learn what they played!
The 6L6s definitely put out more bottom end.
Yes, and the el34’s more sparkle
Request to do Fender Blackface vs Tweed amps and Fender Mexican Deluxe vs Fender American Elite Strats and Teles!
Daniel Poe deluxe is no more in production
@@enricoamadori2800 Not true. The Deluxe series (first released around 2016 I think) are the high end Mexican guitars that are still in production and for sale. I own a HSS one in candy apple red and I love it!
shop.fender.com/en/intl/electric-series/deluxe/guitars/
Bass Breaker is much nicer clean IMO… Has tons of sparkle yet still warm… The Deluxe is too dark but rounder sounding but lacks that sparkle. NO comparison distorted
My favorite amp WAS the Deluxe… Now it’s the Bassbreaker
Love my bassbreaker 15r, but I wish it had spring reverb. I'm considering a Hot Rod Deluxe, actually. I don't like pedals. But the bassbreaker is so close to a bassman that it has an awesome out of hte box tone.
Why the heck dont you like "pedals" ? There are so many different pedals oit there that do gorgeous spring reverbs. And they are very different. I think its stupid to buy an extra amp just to get spring reverb... When in reallity pedals can do it just as well
I'm getting some Angus Young vibes. Damn the Hot Rod Deluxe is sweet!
Guys keep up the great work, really enjoy your reviews.Very educational and entertaining. Watching from MI in USA
I'm definitely a two channel, get your drive from the amp kinda guy (with maybe a tube screamer in front to push it a little), so the Bassbreaker appeals to me more. I had one of the early Hot Rod Deluxes and it certainly didn't do much for my hard rock tendencies at the time.
i prefer'd the amp gain on the hot rod deluxe over the pedals on the clean channel
I own both guys and personally I’d take the Bassbreaker over the HD! It does have less power (30w opposed to 40w) but I feel the sound is better! The only complaint I have of the Bassbreaker is that there is no Level Control for the High Gain feature. I find when you have the Normal Gain Level where you want it then kick in the HG for Leads it’s TOO MUCH VOLUME!! I’ve spoke to Fender and they told me that’s the Number One Complaint they’re getting. So I use an Overdrive instead of the HG in the Amp. Other than that I LOVE the Bassbreaker and would choose it anytime over the HRD. Nice Demo! Please keep up the Good Work and Cheers from the US!
Personally overdrive and distortion pedals or multiple overdrive in front of any amp is far more useful and better now there are amp like Marshall etc etc that the gainis great fender need help
So the clean is better on the deluxe and the distortion is better on the bassbreaker? We need an in between of the two.
Buy the Bassbreaker. Plug nice reverb pedal in effects loop. Reverb problem solved for equal money.
Clayton Duguay when I was looking at the blues jr, I ended up going with the bass breaker in part because, despite it being digital, I actually prefer the reverb. It’s not “authentic” but it is an enjoyable bit of depth on low settings. I love it
Do a comparison video of all the 65 reissue and 68 Custom Fender Amps! The Vibrolux 68 is mega awesome
The more I listen, I really enjoy Lee's playing and note choice.
Battle of the Fender open backs. Kinda depends where you like to get your dirt from. Pedal platform vs overdriven rock machine.
The audio taper volume potentiometer is the key to the improved volume response... or so I've heard!
Yes they fixed it with the new version..i use a volume pedal on my version 3...
I love a nice, big, rounded bottom end, with headroom.
The tweed bassbreaker is my favorite amp ever
I'm planning on buying a fender amp all month long, I cut down the options to these 2 models. this seems like a weird mind reader witchcraft to me.
I was looking at a particular Schecter guitar. They include it in a little shootout & like it the most, lol. Unusually convenient!
Why choose?
I own both!
Bassbreaker is great grab and go and skip the pedals kind of thing and the HRD is the bringing the whole rig amp.
I put Warehouse ET65s in both amps and pair them with a Seismic 1x12 with a Warehouse Veteran 30 ... improves the tone immeasurably.
I vote for the amp with the max clean headroom and bottom end. Could care less about distortion or the spikey 'Marshall' clean trebles, but that's just my personal tastes. Bassbreaker does win on distortion, but... :-)
Hot Rod Deluxe is THE sound. Definitely the winner in my eyes.... but... Fender, attenuators are the way of the future. If you're listening (which you shouldn't be because I'm just an idiot on the internet), it'd be great if you made it easier to put one in-line with the internal speaker, via external jumpering to connect the internal speaker or something similar. You can pull something off, sort of, by ripping off the back panel and pulling the jack from off of the internal speaker jack and putting one in line, but, even so, the leads are just about too short, even after you cut off the zip ties.
My concern also. But JHS's Little Black Box might be the missing link here.
I genuinely enjoyed that crunchy rock tone on the hot rod, sweet playing!
HRD and a Tele…a match made in Heaven.
I have the BB 15 and I agree it does not get loud enough on the clean but man does it sound good
Just ordered a Reissue '59 Bassman. Cannot wait to plug in my Tele.
The BB 15 should be used with a 100db or more speaker to give it more clean headroom and the same for the BB30.Eminence have high sensitivity speakers.
i closed my eyes for the bass breaker tones
Maybe the solution is HRD with a bluesbreaker type pedal.
Thanks Guys for the reviews of the Bassbreaker 30r. I was looking for a combo-replacement for the Marshall JCM2000 50W half stack, because I was tired to carry them around. Rob and Lee made me very interested of the bassbreaker. Now I have bought one, and I could not be happier. The amp is so versatile. I´m playing rock from 60s to modern rock, and the amp suits for everything. The Marshall stack is on sale :D
Do you still have the Bassbreaker? I have a JVM and might be going down this route myself.
Went in to my local guitar store and played both the bass breaker 30 and Marshall origin 20 with the idea that I wanted a fender sounding amp. The bass breaker was way to fuzzy. Ended up with the Marshall with a good spring reverb pedal. Wins over the fender in my opinion.
I have played the Bass Breaker and just didn’t like it.
I love the Hot Rod for the great cleans. Just put an overdrive or distortion pedal for your dirt and you have a great amp.
Hotrod for me. I recently part exchanged a Bassbreaker 45 head for the latest Hotrod
Cuts through the band sound everytime. Last gig I stayed on the clean channel and used pedals. Im so pleased with my set up now.
Have a Katana Head going through the BB212 cab. Amp nirvana for me at this time...
So you mean the Bassbreaker 45 didn't cut through the mix?
Moritz Lienhard The BB45 is a great amp but it needed a lot of tweaking everytime i set it up. The Hotrod has been gigged 3 times now and sounds great straight away everytime.
Thats my experience
I also have the amp on a tilted stand which helps im sure!
i know im not the only one that heard that fender clean amp almost perfectly match the tone of angus shook me all night long
Lee, my goodness! You put some goosies on my arms with that emotional piece there. Honestly man that was great!
Just to preface, in saying that Rob is an amazing player and never ceases to amaze. But c'mon, Lee was on point in this
Deluxe sounds great too. Chimier. Great with pedals. Had the Deville. Could not wait to get rid of it. Was jumpy. Not like a Twin at all. Like the natural tone of the instrument to stand out.
One of your very best comparison videos.
“Spontaneous Lee” or
Spontaneously
Gotta say I like the out of the box gain sounds on the BB.
I am a sucker for a great clean that takes pedals. So definitely HRD for me. But the gain channels on the BB sounds killer
I had heard demos of the smaller Bassbreaker and didn’t like it at all. This one sounds great.
A good versatile amp should be able to do clean, crunch, and balls out. And loud enough for gigging. IMO, of course. I have a 6101LM and 6100LM
Played HR Deluxe for years,1st version, massive headroom and great reverb but it was always too loud, played medium sized clubs with knob on 3 and was asked to turn down every time and thats with lower output Fender Mustang. For me the drive out of the amp was usable but not great, grainy and harsh. Sold it and tried Rivera - better drive but no character whatsoever, sterile. Tried Mesa, similar problem,Fender clean is Fender clean. Tried 5e3 point to point, clean is there and drive is there but...with 12w and Jensen volume is just not there for playing with the band, too expensive for me for just studio and home use. Long story short, R30 has perfect wattage, its not too heavy and for the first time affordable workhorse with good cleans and good drive. We all want twin reverb and JTM with vintage ac30 in between, in light and small but not to boxy sounding combo and played many amps this is the closest it gets. Put it in a Dumble cabinet and 99% people would drool in 100 000eur ave haha...
I really enjoyed both amps for different sound&tone reasons.
Could you do a Fender Bassbreaker 30 vs a Marshall Bluesbreaker Reissue
If bluesbreaker isn't sold , they have only one.
I will buy both and run them in a lovely stereo!
Peter Y...I am too..yee haaaa
The BB 30R might be my first valve amp. Ive only owned solid state but always wanted a tube amp, and am in no hurry to get one, but this one calls to me, only other one that beckons is a Vox AC15 maybe.
Andrew Aviles Marshall dsl range is another to check out :)