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Can You Make A Hot Rod Deluxe Sound Good?
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Man, I love Olympic White strats with minty pick guards!
Yup got one faitly moded . Its my first guitar and first fender strat. Thing is 23 years old and still sounds good.
mee too but with a maple neck instead of rosewood because I prefer the feel off maple than rosewood
Mint pick guards just look good on anything
@@tendulkarificationI prefer maple too but for this strat I think rosewoods looks best
The need to drop the bass as the volume increases can also be explained by the "Fletcher Munson" curve. That curve describes the human ear's sensitivity to different frequencies at different volumes. It turns out the ear does not hear flat. When the volume is low we cannot hear the low end as well. That is why the old hifi stereos had a "loudness" button. It added back in the missing bass at lower volumes.
The brief chat about "bass dump" that starts about 8:55 and goes to about the end is something that should be taught to every guitarist before they start playing live. Complement the sound, don't compete with it! Bravo, Phillip! Awesome discussion.
I like how the title is "can you make a hot rod deluxe sound good".
The title should be "can you make it sound *BAD",* because everything I heard sounds amazing.
Or "how to make it sound how I like playing it"
I have one. Absolutely one of the best amps I've owned.
@@jerryhatrick5860 Have you tried Bassman reissue?
Agree. I have one of the early US tweed ones, and it always sounds good.
Wow, using an amp designer to discuss how to use a guitar amp - so simple that 95% of the guitar bloggers missed his point. Congratulations Mr. McKnight for being smart enough to understand this.
This was a lot of useful information delivered in 10 mins. I really appreciate how Phil dug a bit deeper to demystify things like why people who intuitively know to do things like drop the bass off when you're upping the gain actually do that.
It's really great to hear just straight facts rather than people waxing lyrical and fluffing around the actual science of what is happening with your amp when you're switching and dialing. IMO that's so important when you're considering adding pedals to your rig, if you're not sure what is happening to your signal at the amp, making even further changes upstream can just make it more confusing to arrive at a tone you're happy with except by accident, and then you need to take a pic of all your settings in case your kid wanders in and messes your tone up 😂
Ugh!!! Had this happen many times!!!
My main amp is a Hot Rod Deville and i love it!!! I have always just used the clean channel and used pedal distortions/overdrives and fuzzes. It's always sounded great!!!
Maybe they've improved. I used one for a few years and it was horrible. 2005 model I think. It fooled me into thinking the clean was good, but when I eventually compared to other amps, I found out how much it lacked. It made every guitar sound the same and my Strat never sounded good until I played it through the Orange amp I replaced the Deville with. Tone sucker. And the "Drive" channel. Lolololololololol
@@216trixieThe IVs have a better volume taper, a redesigned tone stack, better D/OD sounds and a different speaker - so yeah, they've improved. I still think they're using the wrong speaker … my fave for this amp is the Warehouse ET65. Treble 6.5, Bass 2, Middle 7 with Normal volume @ 5-7 through my P90 guitars is a killer sound - with the Warehouse. Stock, these settings were lacking.
Until you try a fender twin reverb....
@@slash2jimi Have tried them and I like the HRD better - both in terms of sound and cost. Twin Reverb is a great amp, but so is the HRD.
What's the difference between the Deluxe and DeVille?
Seriously? Lol. Can you make a Ferrari fast without any modifications? Can you make a fish swim in water without installing an engine on its tail?
Man, I love a rosewood strat with 3 different shades of white.
Been using my Hot Rod Deluxe III since 2012 and haven’t looked back since. One of the best amps I own!
I love mine !
They sound great, but watch out for problems with dry solder joint... These PCB amps are prone to it. Mine has been in for repair twice because of it.
@@bluesrocker91 Hi paranoid, what do you mean by that?
Sorry I'm semi begginer!!
The thing with this amp, it sounds great. I get so many compliments on my tone. Simple overdrive pedal I have all the gain I need for classic rock. The clean is rich and gorgeous on any eq setting. The overdrive isn’t what I was going for so I just use a Boss OD
"Dont quote me on this" lol. Says the man who's in charge.
Can You Make A Hot Rod Deluxe Sound Good? they come sounding great so YES ! if you know what you want!
of all people to be telling the truth in the comments, i didnt expect it to be poo ninja
Yeah sounding "good" is subjective. I mean can you make any amp sound pretty for a moment or two? Sure. Will it ever sound like a 65' blackface? Nope. Good is subjective. There is good and then there is GOOD. A great way to think about this is, steel string singers. Many a amp has sounded "good" while trying to sound like a singer, but there is good and then there is GOOD.
People like this guy and Pete Thorn can make almost anything sound good. My unique skill is I can make almost anything sound bad. Sadly I'm very under appreciated for that skill.
Yeah mine sounds amazing. Although the gain channel not so much...but plug in a Friedman BE-OD and BAM! you're in Marshall land.
I agree haha they are not bad amps at all.
Sounds like Guitar Center on a Saturday afternoon.
Definitely I'm one of those guys
hahahahahaha nailed it
Is great to see Rick addressing that the amp has a good sounding overdrive but you need to dial it in. He’s not just selling he’s explaining the good and bad of the amp.
Had one of these for years. Rarely had anything other than a tuner between it and my guitar.
I played one finally used at GC. Took me about 30 seconds until I realized the amp sounded incredible. I have owned/still own other amps such as the Blues Junior NOS Tweed , 5150, JCM 2000, etc etc. Definitely would love one.
Hell yeah! Hot Rod deluxe sounds great on its own
Dialling an amp to full potential is an art
I've had an original DeVille 4x10 since I bought it new - my big tip is to use the lower gain input (2), I find it makes the amp much more controllable and a bit sweeter🍬
I have the Fender Hot Rod Deluxe v.1 Corona,Ca
I play in a Beatles cover band and this amp coupled with a British tube emulator pedal [I use Aclam Dr.Robert]
recreates some of the best late 60s early 70s tones. Very close to Vox sound.
Then I'm able to get the crisp, accurate clean tones necessary for my Yacht Rock side project. It also rocks out when set to do so.
So versatile, I will never get rid of this amp.
5:43 LOL, Phil's face says it all.
@doobiewah357 LOL, don't push too hard!
Phill, this is one of the best interviews I have seen you do. I've seen anyone ask Rick Hines the depth of question from a player's perspective. This amp sounds like hell at home, but in a club with bass and drums it sounds great. It sits in the perfect spot.
Best way to make an amp sound better:
Play as well as Rick.
Also, I find it interesting that he didn't use the foot pedal to select the drive channel.
The thing I did that best improved the OD tone was disconnect the negative feedback loop (Grey wire) going to the speaker output. The clean is not as pristine but has an interesting vintage quality to it. I inserted a push/pull pot so I can insert the NFB loop if I still want, but honestly the OD sounds so much better without it. You won’t get the glassy clean tone, but if you’re ok with that, look this mod up
I changed the speaker to a Warehouse G12C/S, and the first tube to a 12AY7. Sounds much sweeter and more tamed. I can use the amp now at home. The 12AY7 really helped bring the volume control under control - because we all know the volume control sucks and goes from 0-60 in 1 second!
So helpful. I have a HRD 4, that has mostly ran silent due to me getting crap tone out of it. Now all has changed. Thank you Phil and Rick!
I have an American HRD and found a list of mods years ago that split the tone circuit so you don't drag bass up with every tweak. I also put switchcraft input jacks AND INSULATED THEM, that's a must. The intl. safety jacks suck. They only contact sleeve through a piece of thin sheet metal. It's been a pretty versatile amp ever since. The speaker that came with it was kind of flabby too.
Would you please share it?
I only watched this video because I used to have a hrd many years ago. I didn't care for it.
However, one time I was in 8th Street music and heard a cop playing a Strat into an hrd clean and finger picking. He sounded amazing!
I bought the Hot Rod Deluxe 1 by 12 combo in 1996 when it came out. I gigged the ship out of it and I still really love the tone. There's a reason this is one of the most popular amplifiers.
I've had a lot of compliments playing out in my rock band over the past 10 years and my main tone is the Drive Channel. Master is usually around 3, Drive 10, Treble 10, Bass and Mid at 6.5, Reverb between 3-5 depending on the room, and Presence always at 8. It's pure classic rock, AC/DC and Zeppelin tone. Having a guitar with great humbuckers is very beneficial. I also will push the clean channel with a MXR micro amp and it creates a great distorted drive tone. Underrated amps, you just have to know how to create good tone. With that being said, I loved my tone even more after putting in a Weber Legacy speaker, Russian groove tubes, and upgrading to a Monster internal speaker cable. The amp also sounds even better hooked up to a 2x12 running a total of 3x12's.
I gigged from 1996 to 2006+ with the first generation Hot Rod Deluxe, playing pop country and Blues. The only pedal I used was a boss compressor sustainer pedal. Still have that amp still love it.
Great information. He is absolutly right about bringing down the bass volume. and get on your guitar equalizer zone only, and mind your own biz only.
(1.) Put a simple potentiometer volume knob in the *effects loop*. (2.) Turn that all the way down to zero to temporarily silence the amp (3.) push the amp volume and master channel level up high enough, even 7,8,9, say, to get what ever distortion and tones you would like, crank it, turn it up because you wont hear anything due to the new volume knob in the effects loop being at zero. (4) now with the amp driven hard, just turn that “new” volume knob in the effects loop up just to the sound level you want in the room, it can be fairly quiet. You will have that knob almost at one maybe if you are really cranking the amp. Then, because the amp is actually being heavily pushed, the rig will sound very driven and full of articulation and making beautiful tones but it won’t have to be loud in the room to get that great sound pallet. Then do every thing this guy in the video was talking about to find preamp settings that make you happy on a great foundation of a driven amp, Without the new effects loop sound level knob, the problem most people have with this amp is because they can’t drive the amp hard enough to get the sound they want because it would be very very loud and drive you of the room, piss off the neighbors, cover the entire band, etc. The amp sounds great loud and not great otherwise is the problem imo. Driving the heck out of the amp to get the great tones possible and then turning down the sound level in the effects loop is a super good hack,really it is. If you think this can’t work please don’t tell me about that unless you have done this and observed the thing work this way. Try it, it works really well and transforms using the amp. Fender should put a potentiometer on the effects loop thing in the first place I think. I have turned into a big HRD fan after years of really not liking the amp much and a couple of my friends have done this successfully as well. (Note that you could use a Dunlop volume pedal ( dont use a digital effects pedal) in the effects loop if you don’t have a knob potentiometer with a plug-in setup available. Its so simple and easy and effective that its hard to know why its not just the way one uses that amp, period. Hope that might help somebody having a disappointment HRD!! They are actually really good amps it turns out.
A lot of dudes out there are bashing the hot rod deluxe for years. They just expect something else I guess. I have always loved the overdrive channel. When you set it just for a little breakup, then the more drive doesn't go over the top and is very nice. My only complain would be that I would like to have the reverb footswitchable. Now I use a reverb pedal instead...
Let me add something. The stock eminence speaker on the older models are the best. I have tried like 4 other speakers because of some dudes saying they had "way better tone" with a swap, and each time I lost that Fender cristal tone. This amp is almost perfect. If you don't like it, by Vox or Marshall.
Of course! What kinda question is that?! They sound great, not just good. And they are one of the most selling amps of all time.
I agree with you, Space Alien. "What kinda question is that?!" I've always liked the Hot Rod Deluxe and I own some good amplifiers. For the money you can't beat a Hot Rod Deluxe.
@@Teachering Absolutely!
Love mine. I can’t believe I didn’t go with one in my high school days. I decided on lugging a half stack to school concerts like an idiot
After 15 years of owning the original version of the Hot Rod Deluxe came with the Fender Gold spkr. Got it" re- tubed" & it seems to sound better than ever! Was going to sell it. But after watching the video, I think that I'll keep it around for a while longer.
That fender amp on the right looks amazing and so tempting.
You bring lots of good content now Phil. Where will this end?
Great video. 🙏👋🏼
maybe i'm wierd but i played on one recently..and granted about 5 hours in one of the power tubes died...but before then...it sounded pretty good. shimmering cleans and smooth over driven tones...i liked it.
Phil, I would love to see a feature video on the Super Champ. I've owned both the XD and now the X2 and this is such a great amp for the money. I have never understood why the blues Junior out sells it when this is less expensive and more versatile.
I'm pretty sure when someone asked Joe Bonnamassa what amp one should buy if they can't afford something more premium, he said to find a Hot Rod Deluxe. These are great amps...
Love the original.
Ritchie. Did a amazing job.
Its kinda sad what they did to it.
Not everone needs a metal tone.
Short answer:
Yes. Yes you easily can.
Great video! Something I'd like to hear more about is how "Presence" differs from "Treble" or how it fits into the EQ in general. Thanks Phil!
@csguitars has a video on this
@@jonthehermit8082 its delightful if you want to be haired.
Matt Satterlee I look to Santa Claus for the best presence.
Treble increases high frequencies in the pre amp, presence increases treble through the transformer I think, so that you can increase treble without affecting tone.
@@54fighting5 Haha! All he usually gives me is coal though.😖
As a bass player, I wish more guitarists knew to cut their bass frequencies. As a guitarist I love my G&L Legacy cos its passive treble bass circuitry lets me control that from the guitar.
Yep, love my G&L's for that same reason
Nikolaki A I suspect a big part of the problem is that guitar players spend a lot of time playing alone. Big bass end is kinda pleasing when the guitar is the only sound. If there’s a bass guitar, or a keyboard playing with you, you’re just muddying up the waters.
@@Newnodrogbob Quite right!
I was given a gift of a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe Mod 3 and I love it! Especially with my JBL I made. Now I want to split my 2 heads. From my pedal board in which my outputs are divided by my 2 heads. My Bugera (built to use EL-34) simular to Marshall's circuits and now my Fender and their 40watt system using 6L6's.
I am a metal guy, thinking about buying this amp for my headrush. But I have really been getting into blues lately. SOLD!
Great concept! I'd love to see this video format with the various settings for the HRD, clean, and a variety of pedal combos.
good and to the point explanation of how to work with a hot rod in case using the drive channel.
its not a high gain amp of course, and the "more drive " channel doesn t really make it for me,
but the first stage (channel) is pretty useful.
love the slightly cranked blues /rock tones from mine.
Rick Hines is so cool, just seems so down to earth and chilled, great player too.
Love the sound of mine type iv hot deluxe special edition ( tweed with sparkly grille cover looks perfect guitar center exclusive ) . Watched a video of speaker replacements ( about 7 of them ) Celestion creamback sounded awesome but it’s $320 speaker that clean was amazing but I doubt I’ll do it . Most other ones sounded equal or less to the factory which imho factory sounds great . But I definitely agree don’t bang out the knobs . Very clean and vibrant amp . There are a lot of Fender factory issues that they should address like get rid of the cheap capacitors . Pennies more for better ones . And upgrade the wattage of the resistors . Also lift the ceramic resistors up off the board so it doesn’t burn or melt the board . Swichcraft input jacks also . This costs lots of money for a amp tech to do but you’ll get 20 years out of it . Also tighten up the screws on it mine were all a turn shy of being tight especially the Handle ! I don’t get it fFender ? Charge an extra $50 bucks . I’m gonna get this all done to mine soon since it’s not a year old yet. Need to find a good tech in my area .
Very informative video. And it was nice meeting you at guitar center in Tempe this week Phil. Your videos are helpful.
I think I am going to buy a Fender Blues Deluxe and a matching 112 extended cabinet, put them together and have a Fender half stack.
I use a Fender Super Champ x2 Head through a Orange 1x12 Cab and it sounds fantastic. Best tone I’ve achieved in some time.
Clean channel, volume on 8, treb 6.5, bass 6.5, mids dead center, reverb 3. Great fender scream.
My HRD IV sounds great.
Turn it up to 4 1/2, Put a Fulltone OCD in the mix, Plug in a LP Junior, and you're golden!
been playing for decades and only now am understanding how to play fender amps lol
would love to hear him talk about dialing in vox and using other guitars like the jazzmaster, telecaster deluxe etc.
great video friend!
Great content Phil, I think you've really upped your game in the past few months! As a bass player, I really appreciate the part about eq and how each instrument should stay in their respective frequency range. So many guitar players do not understand this. They think bedroom tone = live group tone....this is usually far from the case.
Hot rods have too much low end, I ended puttin' an eq pedal on the preamp to tame it at 100hz and a bit under 250hz. I also diminished the volume on the eq to rise with a better control the volume on the amp. I wish I had know this trick earlier
I've played guitar for 25 years. I've owned Peavey 5150s, AC30s, a boutique Savage, and Marshalls. I built a little 5-watt Champ. I've played through Riveras, Soldanos, Matchless...you name it. You know why people hate the Fender HRD? Because they're accessible and they don't come with the requisite "street cred." That's why. They're great amps, and a fantastic value. Give Larry Carlton or Robben Ford a Hot Rod Deluxe and a Blueline overdrive pedal and I promise you it'll make you reconsider your world. Both have routinely used them as backline amps when they can't transport their Dumbles. Get a HRD and swap out the tubes and invest in a good speaker. You're set.
Good points. I don't play guitar but what tubes and what speaker would you recommend for an electric piano?
I would love a HRDLX head with no drive channel and no reverb. It’s a great pedal platform and that’s it and a wonderful one.
I like the sound of these amps but everyone I’ve known who’s had one has had problems with it (twin reverbs too) sometimes they sound great, sometimes they don’t know what’s going on haha. But I do love some gnarly fuzz into the clean channel
How to make a hot rod deluxe sound good.
1.Plug it into the wall
2.plug it into your guitar
3. Make sure the knobs arnt all cattywompus
4. Turn it on
5. Play something
If you follow these instructions down to the letter and don’t make a single mistake, you can make the hrd sound good
It’s both a pro and con with these channels.
Pro, learning SO MUCH, about tone, EQ, volume control for FREE. Things I had no idea were so important and critical to being a great guitar player
Con, these videoes and channels have barley been out for the world to see for about 1-3 years. From 2009-2016 ive been playing like sh*t
I used a Hot Rod Deluxe for years with no pedals. Loved the clean, 90% happy with the OD. COMPLAINTS: too heavy for me now, (63 years old?) Hard to control in small clubs, goes from too quiet to too loud in a tenth of a turn. I hope they fixed that with the new model.
I heard the MK IV is now easier to dial in. Wish I get one in the following year. I plan to tame it through a volume pedal into the FX loop if it's still too loud.
@@EddieOtool I down sized to Super Champ XD about 10 years ago.
I built a master volume pedal(very easy) and plug it into the effects loop on my HRD. Best thing I could have done for it
I did that too, then came the Dr.Watson Lion Tamer. I think it’s like 25.00.
Same here 🙂
So I just bought a 2nd hand one, with the chrome control plate. The distortion is much saggier but if you refer to the manual it tells you how to dial in an Austin Strat tone. It's loud!
I have a Old Hot Rod Deville that I put Ruby Tubes in and that thing will not cave in on itself when cranked, I believe the setup changes the DNA of the sound.
I have 2 HRD's the II and the III. After some slight mods being done I am not going anywhere else for amps and I have had Marshall and other Fenders in the past to compare to. I find the OD channels are quite usable and sound great to me with lots of sustain for lead playing even when using single coils. Even before the mods they sounded pretty good although the modifications have solved the global EQ problem when going from dirty to clean sounds.
Can you elaborate on the mods?
@@jbognap I only changed out the speaker in the HRD III for another Fender speaker I had laying around, that speaker was a happy accident. In the older HRD II there is a Celestion speaker installed,; also when the thing crapped out due to cheap original Fender parts I took it to a tech that is a friend of mine. He is well known in my city as a guru amp tech/builder. It was in his shop where I got to try a Dumble OD Special he was working with. I'm not sure if he planned to make some clones or if it belonged to some rich dude. Anyways long story short I paid him for the fix and afterwards he said sort of slyly something to the effect of you are going to want to keep this amp. I didn't ask what he all did but the amp is set it and forget it for the global EQ, whereas before I could only find that sweet spot one channel at a time. Everything is more alive and dynamic and the reverb actually sounds good now. Maybe that will give you a clue as to what he has done but like I said I didn't ask I was only hugely surprised when I got it home! In the past I gave him an old Jenson speaker he really liked the sound of I couldn't use it anyway so might be he was returning the favor??
@@stratorarious It's cool to have an amp tech as a friend ;)
I have never turned my Blues Deluxe up past 3 live but i might try that bass dump thing.
I have a first generation hotrod deluxe and I get some of the darkest tones without pedals.
Okay! You convinced me to take my HRD out of storage and try again. It's version III.
Mine has that same hiss on the overdrive channel, even louder when you press the “more drive”
Why the title? I don't know about the ht rod, but the Deville 2 x 12 60 wattsounds unbelievably amazing. The same family of amps. The eq on this amp is not really the point, it's superfluous, and does nothing haha. The sound is perfect at 12. it probably the best pedal amp around, that's what it's known for. It's so fn loud, I've never turned it up beyond 2. And, it goes from jazz cleans (very close to the Fender Twin) all the way through blues crunch, hard rock overdrive to a damn metal tone. The loudest metal drummer I know told me to turn it down at 2
I bought one in 97 and used the clean channel alone with a pedal board of modded tubescreamers , and 3 or 4 high quality pedals, this amp seems to flourish then
I love my HRD and my bass and mid stay really low, around 8 or 9 o'clock with treble set just after lunchtime.
To be fair I stay on the clean channel and add a little bit of hair with a blues driver. But that's perfect for me.
I keep the bass completely off and the mid and treble anywhere between 6 and 10 depending on the room. Clean channel only with the bright switch off and presence off.
@@billducas nice, I'll give it a try
I usually have the bass just under 8 with the mids just above 6 and treble just below 4. But my guitar has lots of treble. Sounds great for distortion n fuzz tho
I used to have a Hot Rod Deluxe and a Hot Rod Deville 2x12. With my Tele (humbucker at neck and Lindy Fralin bridge) I ran the red light all the time and controlled the volume at the guitar. It always sounded great. I only sold them because they became too heavy to move.
I had one for 20 years when it broke, for the money of the repair I built a tweed deluxe. The modern deluxe sounded "good" everywhere I went, but the tweed sounds "much better" if you can make it sound good because its much more sensitive to the way you hit the strings. Much more interesting IMO.
If you're into KAELO, Gary Clark Jr and that kind of "in our face" rock and roll, a Hot Rod Deluxe alone is all you need!
On my Tweed deluxe to deal with the bass "flubberiness" I got Weber to build a speaker with a ribbed cone to tighten up the bass. Huge improvement.
The flavor of the "cheese" is important, but Let's not forget that half of the tone comes from the player's hands and imagination.
Right off you know that so much tone is in your hands, listening to that guy play.
Thanks for the info as I am looking for lighter gear to play out with with minimal pedals. However I wish you had an example with hotter humbuckers to see and hear that too.
Yes. With a couple cap and resistor changes and using other preamp tubes. Oh - check the bias of the power tubes. And change the volume pot to an audio taper from logarithmic.
I played a "Buggywhip" with the brown tolex and special speaker version a few months ago at Mass Street Music in Lawrence, KS and it was amazing. Volume is your friend on this ... but tho it's not "high" gain, the sound of this amp is so good at what it does. It snarls with this high end bliss that is amazing. I love mine!
Absolutely! I freakin love the drive of the hot rod!!!
funny just came across this from 4 yrs ago yup still using it ,,,
I have a version IV like in this video. Et90 speaker, 230-240 voltage change and nos Philips power valves just gave it another dimension. Very addictive amp, gives me inspiration when writing and once I start playing I can't stop. Hard to believe for the price I paid. It sounded good stock. Sounds Stella with the mods.
I put 12ay7 tubes in my hot rod deluxe and it sounds great not so ice picky
“Everything at noon, with a little bit of reverb”? It’s Mark Agnesi with a wig on!!
Best hod rod tone I heared
It’s a great amp, I miss mine after it was stolen but I just don’t have the need to spend that much money anymore
Yes you can … and if you pull out the crappy speaker it comes with and replace it with a Warehouse ET65 it sounds even better! For straight up rock and blues I pair it with the matching 1x12 cabinet loaded with a Warehouse Veteran 30 and use the Normal and Drive Channels. For my punk rock gigs I stick to the Normal channel and use my pedal board (custom 2-channel boost - Xotic EP Booster - MXR Micro Amp - Fulltone OCD … yeah, I like to gain stage!) and run it into either an Avatar 4x12 (Warehouse Invaders/Veteran 30s) or a Seismic 2x2 (Warehouse Veteran 30s) - depending on how my back feels that day.
i finally understand the presence knob lol
The Fender Hot Rod Deluxe was always criticized for having a bad overdrive sound.
didnt sound bad here
The Fender Lion Tamer may be in order. Just plug it into your amp.
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The Hot Rods and earlier 'blues' models are like paper tigers when it comes to their cleans. When played alone or in the store, you get what seems like the ultimate Fender Cleans...scooped in the mids, swirly and complex in the bass, shimmering reverb. Nice when played alone, but in a band setting a lot of it disappears and you end up trying to turn up more and more. Many will find that a 22watt Deluxe Reverb will cut through a mix better than the 40watt Hot Rod Deluxe.,..and the Deville's don't even come close to cutting through like Super Reverb or Bassman reissue which have 20 less watts. And I've always found the Peavey Clasic series to be much more useful even on the clean channel in live band settings. You would think that with all the features and power this amp line offers that it would do better. That said, there's probably something in the drive channel with mid boost that makes it a better live amp, but that's quite different from that classic Fender Clean that the amp portrays in the guitar store or in etc corner of your room.
I skip the preamp altogether on mine, when I’m playing through my interface and iPad. I play through the clean preamp when plugged into analog pedals.
The treble affects what is going inside the preamp, and therefore changes what part distorts. Presence is a treble effect that happens after the preamp.