I came back to say just that, this video literally put easily 50-75 feet on my drive without reps. Instantly. The weight shift video has been extremely helpful as well.
Fantastic video. I love that you are breaking this down for those of us who think we have it! You are so correct about knowing something vs. having your body DO something. Reps Reps and more Reps. Thank you!
If you pause at 1:08, the left shot your wrist is above your elbow and there looks to be a lot rounding/pocket collapse. I have struggled with this problem. For some context, my longest recorded drive is 430, but I don't consistently throw over 400. I am more in the 360-380 range. Would you say that you fixed this with the mental cue you mentioned of keeping your left shoulder back?
So I never actively tried to fix this and it still happens sometimes. But I found that when I loosened my arm and stopped trying to pull with a tense arm instead keeping it loose and just shifting my weight it happened a lot less. I’m not sure that it’s a huge problem seeing as pros like Paul Macbeth and Calvin Heimburg do it to an extent. I would for sure have to look farther into it to tell you 100%
This is great. I like the "I think about" language. It's not as simple as "do X with body part Y," sometimes you have to think about it in a particular way to get your body moving how you want. Thanks for your tips!
Great info, man the reach back is killing my middle back, for some reason i cant twist my back like that, need to modify my reach back so it dosent reach all the way back.
Curious for the left arm/ off arm are you actively driving it forward or down? Or mostly just using it to help coil? Oh wait.. after rewatching it. Sounds like you keep tension in your left shoulder/ coil the whole time instead of actively uncoiling it ? Almost like… keeping the left shoulder back like resisting back while the right arm goes forward?Hopefully that makes sense… 😅
Thank you. I could throw around 420 the year i started but the more i practice the shorter my throws . I was at 380/390 now and this video made me realise what i forgot. I was always looking for the tension in my first year and after watching alot of youtube videos i got into a bad habit to turn my hips with my shoulder during the Xstep. This video reminded me to change that and now im over 400 in distance again not back to 420 but a big step up
I'm figuring this out about myself now too! I was a 430 guy after about 4 months of serious practice (after playing 3 years). Now a year later I'm capping out around 380-390 with "better" form, but it was all because I wasn't listening to my body seek out that tension. Hopefully knowing that helps me get back on track.
Really clever tips, I’ve been plateaued at that 430-450 consistent distance with multiple PBs at 470s and one fluke 490. My coil has been jacked for about a year and I know im about tacked out distance wise with my form. Always hard to make big changes when it’s working but gotta ride the wave! Steeler Nation!!!
Thanks. Your other video helped, but like you I struggle to take what I understand and actually do it. My form was terrible when I videoed it the other day. I am actually taking my form way back now. I am just going to walk through with good form over and over again and slowly build speed.
The one tip of throwing the back shoulder "against the wall" (I really think more of driving it toward the basket itself) may completely change my throw. After one day it feels pretty good, hasn't hurt my distance, and seems to help with my timing as it adds a tiny bit of lag giving time for the front foot to get planted (I sometimes rush that), which in turn helps consistency/accuracy. Also keeps my upper body more upright/centered between my feet so I'm not leaning back aiming at the sky with unwanted hyzer.
Your cue of ‘putting your back shoulder against a wall’ is genuinely phenomenal. Instantly made me understand what coiling is supposed to feel like.
I came back to say just that, this video literally put easily 50-75 feet on my drive without reps. Instantly. The weight shift video has been extremely helpful as well.
Fantastic video. I love that you are breaking this down for those of us who think we have it! You are so correct about knowing something vs. having your body DO something. Reps Reps and more Reps. Thank you!
This is insane how well you explained the shoulder wall thing
Going to try thinking about the left shoulder tip. Nice video!
This is the exact stage that I'm at rn. I found this very helpful, ty!
Glad I could help!
If you pause at 1:08, the left shot your wrist is above your elbow and there looks to be a lot rounding/pocket collapse. I have struggled with this problem. For some context, my longest recorded drive is 430, but I don't consistently throw over 400. I am more in the 360-380 range. Would you say that you fixed this with the mental cue you mentioned of keeping your left shoulder back?
So I never actively tried to fix this and it still happens sometimes. But I found that when I loosened my arm and stopped trying to pull with a tense arm instead keeping it loose and just shifting my weight it happened a lot less. I’m not sure that it’s a huge problem seeing as pros like Paul Macbeth and Calvin Heimburg do it to an extent. I would for sure have to look farther into it to tell you 100%
Thanks for all the work you put in to learn and explain this!
Yessir glad I could help!
This is great. I like the "I think about" language. It's not as simple as "do X with body part Y," sometimes you have to think about it in a particular way to get your body moving how you want. Thanks for your tips!
Great info, man the reach back is killing my middle back, for some reason i cant twist my back like that, need to modify my reach back so it dosent reach all the way back.
You really improved my form sooooo much. My Reachback is really looking somewhat like that of the Pros for the first time!!!
Heck yea! I love to hear that I’m glad I could help!
Ya hip/shoulder separation is huge. Something ive been working on myself. Ive noticed ive been hitting my lines way more and with more velocity.
Curious for the left arm/ off arm are you actively driving it forward or down? Or mostly just using it to help coil?
Oh wait.. after rewatching it. Sounds like you keep tension in your left shoulder/ coil the whole time instead of actively uncoiling it ? Almost like… keeping the left shoulder back like resisting back while the right arm goes forward?Hopefully that makes sense… 😅
Thank you. I could throw around 420 the year i started but the more i practice the shorter my throws . I was at 380/390 now and this video made me realise what i forgot. I was always looking for the tension in my first year and after watching alot of youtube videos i got into a bad habit to turn my hips with my shoulder during the Xstep. This video reminded me to change that and now im over 400 in distance again not back to 420 but a big step up
I'm figuring this out about myself now too! I was a 430 guy after about 4 months of serious practice (after playing 3 years). Now a year later I'm capping out around 380-390 with "better" form, but it was all because I wasn't listening to my body seek out that tension. Hopefully knowing that helps me get back on track.
Really clever tips, I’ve been plateaued at that 430-450 consistent distance with multiple PBs at 470s and one fluke 490. My coil has been jacked for about a year and I know im about tacked out distance wise with my form. Always hard to make big changes when it’s working but gotta ride the wave!
Steeler Nation!!!
Thanks. Your other video helped, but like you I struggle to take what I understand and actually do it. My form was terrible when I videoed it the other day. I am actually taking my form way back now. I am just going to walk through with good form over and over again and slowly build speed.
"If that makes sense"? Yeah it makes lots of sense. Almost too much sense. Now I'm kind of insecure about how much sense I can make. Whatever dude
Can I ask where your pressure points are on your grip? are you more front loaded or backloaded.
Yes, so good, so true. Thanx man
I need help keeping my off arm down and not following through with the pull through or hit.
The one tip of throwing the back shoulder "against the wall" (I really think more of driving it toward the basket itself) may completely change my throw. After one day it feels pretty good, hasn't hurt my distance, and seems to help with my timing as it adds a tiny bit of lag giving time for the front foot to get planted (I sometimes rush that), which in turn helps consistency/accuracy. Also keeps my upper body more upright/centered between my feet so I'm not leaning back aiming at the sky with unwanted hyzer.