Some more notes: Single swing outs do put more weight on one end of the swingout. Dual swing outs help spread the load equally on both side of the bumper (if weight is on both sides). This really only matters when open and not latched. Dual arms have a shorter radius to swing, which also means they are smaller/have less surface to mount things + add tables. Single swing outs have a larger arm and usually provide more room to mount things. The longer swing arm is noticeable.
Hmm. Another thing to keep in mind is the swingout opening radius: A dual swingout will have enough clearance to open both arms and lower your tailgate . . . in the mall parking lot, you know? A single probably won't allow that
I'm going to redo it again with a new layout and film me putting together the 80/20. This way it helps out people understand how simple working with extruded aluminum can be.
@@socalexpeditions sweeeeeeet! cant wait. my vagabond is on schedule for December. Fingers crossed Covid doesn't mess that up. Did you take the material off the walls? Thanks for sharing your vids!
How about one that swings out towards the driver's side - that way when you are at camp you are not always walking around the swing-out. I think that is where the smart money is as almost always camps are located on the passenger's side.
I personally dont think it's better because you then have to always walk around the swingout to get into your truck from the back. Also when you open it (say parallel parked), you end up opening the swingout into traffic. Then the tire would be mounted on the drivers side as well which obstructs more of your view.
@@socalexpeditions When say "Parallel parked" - the swing-out swings out only 90 degrees - so how does it impede traffic (unless you irresponsibly have lost your mind and deploy it beyond 90 degrees into traffic)- opening your driver's door encroaches into traffic much more than opening the swing-out 90 degrees. I would rather walk around the swing-out occasionally to get to the driver's side than to have to walk around the swing-out all night long when you are enjoying a few days at camp. BTW - I just had an Alu Cab Canopy Camper installed on my Tacoma. This unit was designed and built in South Africa to swing out toward "their" driver's door side (RHD). (as are all bumper mounted swing outs in South A & Australia) Like here they typically camp to their passenger side - when Alu Cab ship the Camper's stateside they were too lazy to have the door re-engineered to swing to our driver's side (LHD). I had my installer have my back door swing towards my driver's side. I couldn't be happier with it not having to continually walk around the swing-out when at camp. It appears that American bumper makers look at the RHD country swing-out bumpers and just copy them without much thought as to function.
@@TerryManitoba I think it all depends on how you set up your awnings, camp, etc. For me, I'd rather not have my swingout opening towards traffic, because if I need to get something off of it while it's open, I'm standing in traffic. I just don't understand how putting it on the drivers side makes more sense as you have to walk around it every time to get to the driver door - it's all a personal preference thing and for me, it's more of a hassle as someone who camps alone.
@@socalexpeditions Well, I spend a shit ton more time camping from the back to the passenger side than I do going from the tailgate to the driver's door. .Ovoiusly you don't & As they say YMMV so knock yourself out (and beware of traffic...-:)
@@TerryManitoba I have a feeling that it's partly based on Japanese SUVs and the way their rear doors swung. First-generation Pathfinder and many others were never reeingneered to swing left when brought into countries that drive on the right. Funny enough the '86 Isuzu Trooper II my parents had featured a rear door that swung on the left, and it looks like Isuzu maintained that same system through all iterations of the Trooper. It was nice because it didn't obstruct loading at the curb.
Hmm, i was looking for used toppers for a tacoma and i think i just happened to see your rig for sale in craigslist LA 🤔. Planning to replace it already 😥?
Everything is always for sale. The reason it's up is because I want to build something from complete scratch again and film every single part of it for the RUclips channel to help grow. For now I'm keeping the truck and just going all out with mods and will film everything.
Some more notes:
Single swing outs do put more weight on one end of the swingout. Dual swing outs help spread the load equally on both side of the bumper (if weight is on both sides). This really only matters when open and not latched.
Dual arms have a shorter radius to swing, which also means they are smaller/have less surface to mount things + add tables. Single swing outs have a larger arm and usually provide more room to mount things. The longer swing arm is noticeable.
Great walkthrough, I like your music choices.
thanks for watching!
Love the color of your truck. I have a 2021 offroad cement taco
Super useful insights! Thank you!
Hmm. Another thing to keep in mind is the swingout opening radius: A dual swingout will have enough clearance to open both arms and lower your tailgate . . . in the mall parking lot, you know? A single probably won't allow that
Oops I forgot to add that clip in explaining that. You're 100% right
Have to take down the video to edit but I mention the shorter arms at some point in the video
Good looking rig,
can't wait to see what your changes are in the Vagabond!! it's killing me lol
I'm going to redo it again with a new layout and film me putting together the 80/20. This way it helps out people understand how simple working with extruded aluminum can be.
@@socalexpeditions sweeeeeeet! cant wait. my vagabond is on schedule for December. Fingers crossed Covid doesn't mess that up. Did you take the material off the walls? Thanks for sharing your vids!
The issue I have is adding more weight to your rig, but it looks nice!✌🏼🏜️🍻
I know brotha. Hate the weight but it's gotta be there.
Appreciate it bro! 🤙🏽
How about one that swings out towards the driver's side - that way when you are at camp you are not always walking around the swing-out. I think that is where the smart money is as almost always camps are located on the passenger's side.
I personally dont think it's better because you then have to always walk around the swingout to get into your truck from the back. Also when you open it (say parallel parked), you end up opening the swingout into traffic. Then the tire would be mounted on the drivers side as well which obstructs more of your view.
@@socalexpeditions When say "Parallel parked" - the swing-out swings out only 90 degrees - so how does it impede traffic (unless you irresponsibly have lost your mind and deploy it beyond 90 degrees into traffic)- opening your driver's door encroaches into traffic much more than opening the swing-out 90 degrees.
I would rather walk around the swing-out occasionally to get to the driver's side than to have to walk around the swing-out all night long when you are enjoying a few days at camp.
BTW - I just had an Alu Cab Canopy Camper installed on my Tacoma. This unit was designed and built in South Africa to swing out toward "their" driver's door side (RHD). (as are all bumper mounted swing outs in South A & Australia) Like here they typically camp to their passenger side - when Alu Cab ship the Camper's stateside they were too lazy to have the door re-engineered to swing to our driver's side (LHD). I had my installer have my back door swing towards my driver's side. I couldn't be happier with it not having to continually walk around the swing-out when at camp.
It appears that American bumper makers look at the RHD country swing-out bumpers and just copy them without much thought as to function.
@@TerryManitoba I think it all depends on how you set up your awnings, camp, etc. For me, I'd rather not have my swingout opening towards traffic, because if I need to get something off of it while it's open, I'm standing in traffic. I just don't understand how putting it on the drivers side makes more sense as you have to walk around it every time to get to the driver door - it's all a personal preference thing and for me, it's more of a hassle as someone who camps alone.
@@socalexpeditions Well, I spend a shit ton more time camping from the back to the passenger side than I do going from the tailgate to the driver's door. .Ovoiusly you don't & As they say YMMV so knock yourself out (and beware of traffic...-:)
@@TerryManitoba I have a feeling that it's partly based on Japanese SUVs and the way their rear doors swung. First-generation Pathfinder and many others were never reeingneered to swing left when brought into countries that drive on the right.
Funny enough the '86 Isuzu Trooper II my parents had featured a rear door that swung on the left, and it looks like Isuzu maintained that same system through all iterations of the Trooper. It was nice because it didn't obstruct loading at the curb.
Hmm, i was looking for used toppers for a tacoma and i think i just happened to see your rig for sale in craigslist LA 🤔. Planning to replace it already 😥?
Everything is always for sale. The reason it's up is because I want to build something from complete scratch again and film every single part of it for the RUclips channel to help grow. For now I'm keeping the truck and just going all out with mods and will film everything.
You should add a thin layer of rubber tape to prevent any rubbing or making any noise while you drive.
Where?
@@socalexpeditions The area where you latch it at, the resting area. You mentioned that once you had extra things on that side, it will weigh it down.
@@socalexpeditions it will also prevent any rust build up from metal to metal friction.
@@mmunoz5875 Ah yes. I'll just add a piece of non-hook velcro. Good idea!
Bruteforce fab in CA if u want a great HC bumper
Totally agree. I had a Bruteforce Fab High Clearance on order and had one on my 2nd gen. Billy makes rad products!
yew! thanks
Who in tacomaworld can we contact to modify our pelfreybuilt rear bumper to include the kit you have in your video?
GHOST SHIP ! That is his TW username, he is in Los Angeles area
Does he take a long time to reply back on tacomaworld? Does he have an Instagram account?
@@glennstock4573 Nope, he is always on TW. No idea about Instagram.
He has logged in and still no response from him. :(
@@glennstock4573 I sent him a text, hope he responds to you.
Sick taco truck