How to install a Cast Iron Table Saw on a Workbench - EP 1
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- Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2022
- After a year using my new Mobile Workbench with a table saw and router table, I’ve decided to swap the saw for one with a cast iron table and an induction motor. This is the first of two articles where I’ll be showing how to make this change.
With this new bench table saw I’ll have the same functionality and can do the same jobs as the previous Dewalt saw, but with the added advantage of a robust cast iron table and a silent and stable induction motor.
Plans for this Workbench: bit.ly/3iRfbd9
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Plans for this Workbench: bit.ly/3iRfbd9
For people wonderign why he changed the tablesaw:
The old dewalt is a brushed motor - extremely noisy as well as less power efficient - it's a "site saw" designed for occasional use. The new saw is designed for regular work and induction motors are considerably quieter and more efficient with both electric usage and power delivery - brushed motors can stop altogether when even medium load as they only have (usually) 2 points of contact for the "brushes" (carbon switches) and the spinning stator of the motor, through which to deliver power to the blade. An induction motor has a continuous ring around the stator making for a much smoother and stronger power delivery.
It looks like a great saw so compacted
I,ve had this saw for just over a year and its amazing. Never falls out of square. Nice idea about the table extension.
Looks like a really nice table saw. I'm sure it is a welcome upgrade to the portable jobsite saw.
Excellent work on the modifications. This work station is a thing of beauty!
Really a perfect Workbench 👏👏👏
Amazing! I have this saw (well, the previous model, Axminster Craft). The little corner extension on the fence is genius! I’m making plans to build this thing now that you have the same saw 😊
This is the mother of all workbench.
You should make a video/plan for the Compact SawStop Table Saw and this workbench. Would make my dreams come true.
Thank you! I bought your plans over the summer and bought a Delta 36-725t2. This will help!
I would love to see some photos of your version with that saw!
Fantastic. Ive just bought this saw!
Beautiful work sir 👍🏻
I have AW254ts; the model that came before the one you have. It is the same saw but with different colors. I also upgraded from dewalt and I never looked back :)
One upgrade I did on my saw is gluing small (ca 5mm in diameter) neodymian magnet in the slot for the fence handle and that way it doesn't close on itself when I am trying to fine tune the cut.
I have already had this problem, thanks for your idea Darko!
Another genius suggestion. I hate that the handle keeps falling down and auto locking it!
It will be very interesting to see what further changes or upgrades you do to this saw, i have the axminster ac216 ts which is the same as yours. I have a couple of issues with my saw it will be interesting to see if yours has them as time goes on, on a funny note i suspect axminster will be spitting feathers with your walk through on how to fit dado blades by filing spindle down.As always very informative and very well explained looking forward to part 2.
In the US from 1950-1970, you could buy a cast-iron saw with a narrow table and short fence rails; extension wings and long fence rails for sheet-goods and a superior rip-fence were available as upgrades not as standard features forced upon the customer. Axminster is following that retro base-model-with-upgrade-path approach. Axminster is also including a feature that normally doesn't appear on saws priced under $2,000. Its trunnions are mounted to the cabinet not bolted to the table top. Aligning blade with miter slots can be very difficult when the motor is hanging from the table top. And it is very compact! The Axminster puts an internal induction motor in a bench-top cabinet! There's nothing like it in the US today. When we are buying a new saw (to get one with a riving knife) our choice is between lightweight portable saws that don't want to stay aligned (if you can even get them aligned) and big saws with very wide rails optimized for sheet goods.
Great work.
Nicely done!
thanks!
Hello Suso, your workbench has reached such a level that it is more like a piece of art now!! Interesting little saw. My dream saw would be a jobsite saw with an induction motor as I don't care much about the flatness of the aluminum top (mine is terrible, same Dewalt as yours). Anyway, I digress.
Awesome job as usual, looking forward to watching your video comparing the two saws.
thanks Eric!
ESPECTACULAR,no, lo siguiente, no hay más palabras.👌🤓😜
I love it .. I love it .. I love it !!! .. I need this table saw!
but I'm not a ok with the modification made for the dado blade .. it's too approximate in my opinion
otherwise ... still as beautiful .. still as perfect .. sir playwood master
Looking good.👍👍
thanks!
Again your ingenuity comes through. I do understand the advantage of a cast iron top. My saw has an aluminum one and I have regretted that almost from day one but it was a gift. I am a little confused by the mods you had to make to the rails and fence. I am sure it will all clear up before you're done.
I dislike my Ridgid Cast Iron table saw, the casting wasn't properly rested so it cupped around the throat plate by 1/16" 1.5mm in certain avoidable situations it can cause half lap joints to inconsistently fit. I flattened it with a slab flattening jig since carbide can cut cast iron as seen on the channel "Cosmas Bauer" when he modified his saw with a router. I'd say bring a staight edge to check the floor models at the store. It's a product of skipping steps in manufacturing possibly to save space.
Makita has higher tolerances for aluminum table saw flatness. Makita often has greater value than others too, their track saw's, their hepa dust extractors.
Love it.
thanks!
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You could use strong tarp, leather or some other flexible material to cover the bottom of the saw. For better dust extraction.. Well done..Greets from Germany
I think saw comes with bottom cover but it is embossed and because of that total height of the saw would be greater and I think he would have hard(er) time fitting it in the bench...
Paoson 0:00:02 to 0:00:05 - I would love it if you would do a video on how to effectively make a "pop-up" table. Many of us are working out of a garage, and learning how to make a level pop-up table top like this would be amazing for many of us!
ruclips.net/video/0iJI7U_Ymmo/видео.html
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Great video as always!!!! this saw is pretty good for the price, I have the previous model and it works great, dust collection tho, not so much, pretty bad actually!!! do you know if this one is any better?? thank you
thanks! I'll talk about this issue in the next video
Is the material you use for the top a composite material?
Nice.....😲👍
Great video, thanks very much. I have the same saw (older Craft version in red), and I’d like to change the riving knife. Are you using a custom made riving knife in your saw? Thanks again.
it's the riving knife from the other Dewalt saw, I want to buy another one to use with the Axminster saw
ficou top máquina muito boa essa sua sera que vende para brasil
Só o frete dá mais de 4 mil, fora impostos quando bater aqui na receita federal...
Happy to hear that some of you have good feedback with this axminster cast iron table. I had the previous version AC254TS that was red but mechanically they didn't change evena a screw. I had a really bad experience with this product:
1. Cast Iron top not flat
2. Bad tolerances on the T-Tracks
3. Really bad extension panels on the side and back
3. Mechanical vibration on the riving knife
For the last listed problem, I had to send it back two times and the technical team didn't find the root cause. Probably there is some eccentricity on the motor shaft.
My overall opinion is that the product is good for noise reduction but it is not really an upgrade respect to some really decent job site table saw like the Dewalt.
It is manufactured in China so the Quality of the product can be very variable from time to time. Maybe I got two times a bad piece :(
At the end I finished buying the DWE7492 as a replacement.
At least I can say that the Axminster support is great.
Hi. Good work :) It seems that the riving knife is shorter than the one in the axminster saw web site. Is it homemade or do you have a reference to share ?
It's the one from the Dewalt saw
Great video. I have the same saw and noticed you have changed the original riving knife. Which did you use to replace?
I'm using the Dewalt 7492-QS riving knife, I've bought a replacement to use with this Axminster saw
Great project! How is the dust collection and noise level with the new saw? Also I noticed it's 50Hz, any idea if the motor is compatible with 60Hz or if there are additional options available for US power frequency? I haven't seen many bench top cast iron options out there.
Cheers!
I'm editing a new video where I will explain these issues. I think it's impossible to buy this saw in the US, but here's something similar:
www.paoson.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1940#p9250
@@Paoson_Woodworking Similar? Hardly.
No! You can't update your working bench, I did not start the orginial design and just received my Dewalt table saw... ;-)
Thanks for all your videos, always very interesting the way you're explaining and doing!
Hi, great videos first and foremost! I am very interested in your workbench, and will probably try to build one in 2023. But I'll need to modify mine for the slightly smaller Axminster 216 model saw. So, I'll be looking to purchase your plans at some point in the near future. Do you by any chance intend on creating a modified set of plans for the Axminster saw? If not, any considerations not mentioned in this video on things not mentioned?
I think you can use that saw without modifying the the bench frames, just modifying the tops, just like I did in this video
btw, I will show how to modify the tops in the next video
Where did you get the longer fence rail from?
I have decided the quieter more efficient motor wins over the DeWalt, but i really need the 600mm+ cutting capacity.
www.paoson.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1940#p9229
Hi, Did you add a third party riving knife to the Axminister saw ? or mod the included ? I was put off buying the saw due to the riving knife not allowing part through cuts. Thanks
it's the knife from my other Dewalt saw DWE 7492-qs
hi, very nice. Good Job like it. where did you buy the top melamine white sheet. i am in US.
bit.ly/3mspGGB
Hi! May I ask which short riving knife you are using with the saw? Axminster seem to not sell one at their shop website. Thanks a lot!
I am using a spare part from my other Dewalt saw: www.paoson.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1940#p11285
Thanks a lot!
Perfectly well done job, but I had would installed a SawTop table saw
thanks! it is not possible in Europe, a pity!
Will you not miss the extra power (500W) of the dewalt? I had bought the dewalt 7492 based on your excellent table design that I'm starting at the moment. I do wish I'd shopped around a little more for something with a cast iron top, especially as I live very near an axminster store and this saw with the Black Friday discount is currently cheaper than what I paid for the 7492...on the other hand the rack and pinion fence system on the dewalt, once calibrated, is really excellent, I'd probably only change it for an Incra system which is a very expensive upgrade. The other thing was the Dado blade which the 7492 can take, it never would have occurred to me to modify the axminster machine to fit one!
Do you find the cast iron top and induction motor to be a significant upgrade?
I increasingly think Axminster or Felder or someone like that are going to make their own version of your table. Combination type machines/benches are so much more convenient for most hobby woodworkers than the current offerings, even the felder/hammer combination machines aren't really designed in a way that can be operated without having 360 degree access, which is hard to get in a small 1 garage workshop.
Rockler rock steady tables can be used as modular frames to start but I haven't yet seen prefab modular workbenches yet.
yes, I think it's a significant upgrade. I'm about to finish editing a new video review of the two saws! Jobsite VS Cast Iron Table Saw
@@joe_ferreira I think it's not so much the modular element as the workbench type layout that makes it so convenient; it can easily fit against a wall and rolled out when you need it, it's allowed me to fit so many other machines into my workshop that I never could really do before; e.g. a free standing 10" planer thicknesser that can fit next to this bench along a wall. The modular aspect you mentioned where it can fit together with a regular workbench or mft table is just icing on the cake really. Tbh you don't even need the outfeed extension on this if you can use your workbench as one.
If you want a normal tablesaw with similar capacity and functionality you basically need a panel saw or largish contractors saw which just isn't space efficient at all. This great table is such a magnificent bit of problem solving, it gives you that contractors saw capacity, with a carriage, while fitting in the router table, I'm such a huge fan of it as a designer. I'm trying to get a 6mm steel top made for my router table and table extension surfaces, I wonder if long term I should have something similar made for my Dewalt 7492 too.
@@Paoson_Woodworking damn...wish I'd held off now and got this axminster one! oh well, it will do the job I guess, maybe in 10 years I can justify changing it haha.
@@Paoson_Woodworking looking forward to/dreading it!
Amizing, were i can found some drawings how to make work bench
Why did you change the machines? A belt drive is of course something fine. Did you just want something new? Or is the Dewalt not good?
Greetings from Germany
You state in the video about providing a link for how you made the insert plate, but i cannot see it.
www.paoson.com/blog/en/how-to-make-a-router-table-insert-plate/
Hi Suso,
First my compliments, love your workbench series. I have also ordered the AW254TS and it arrived today. For your informatieontsluiting, you decided not to mount the baseplate, because of the bulge on the outside. But the bulge should be on the inside. See figure 08 at page 9 of the manual.
I realize that this is an entree level cast iron saw. But is your cast iron plate flat? Mine has a bow downwards towards the middle. The difference is almost 1mm.
hi Rob! that bulge hits the midrail of the workbench. I think I'm going to put cloth or plastic in its place.
Mine too, but it doesn't reach 1mm, it's about 0.5mm. From what I've read, all low to medium budget cast iron saws have this problem. Send me some pictures of your worktop please. You will find my email at the bottom of the web.
1mm seems too much to me, you should consider returning it to the store
Hi Suso, Have you checked the manual at page 9? The bulge should be facing inside. No interferance with your midrail.
I think the bulge should be facing outside to allow room for the motor when tilting the blade to 45 degrees!
I will measure exactely with a feeler cauche. If the deviation is more than 0,5 mm I will contact Axminster.
Does anyone know if/where Compacmel can be found in the US?
I think it's not possible, you can also use HPL
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I didn't understand why you decided to chance the table saw. The other one didn't work properly? Did you think this could work better than that Dewalt table saw on this workbench?
The old one is a brushed motor - extremely noisy as well as less power efficient, induction mototrs are considerably quieter, and more efficient with both electric usage and power delivery - brushed motors can stop altogether when even medium load as they only have (usually) 2 points of contact for the "brushes" (carbon switches) and the spinning stator of the motor, through which to deliver power to the blade. An induction motor has a continuous ring around the stator making for a much smoother and stronger power delivery.
The new one was given to him. Lol. I'd change my saw too someone gave me a saw. 😂
Где купить данный стол или модель подскажите?
Где и у кого купить такое чудо? , какая цена?
saw gauge reference ? :)
the dial support is homemade!
Bonjour pourquoi avoir changé de machine ?
je t'expliquerai dans la prochaine vidéo!
@@Paoson_Woodworking c'est gentil d'avoir répondu merci.
Great work as always Suso!
I am wondering... I take it, you have a dedicated miter saw station. Concerning your mobile workbench with the cast iron saw and router table - could a portable miter roll stand be added/connected to the end of the bench and use the same track guides and top for cuts? Similar to this (ruclips.net/video/hmXx7R8VBPM/видео.html) but with a better design typical of your work. Thanks!!
could be done! I have in mind designing a new bench dedicated to the miter saw
Amazing work, but why not just upgrade to an actual cabinet saw? A cabinet saw would require less modification, would keep its warranty, would fit a dado stack without having to modify the arbor, and would overall probably cost about the same as what you’ve spent here…
But what's the fun in that?
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Man with all this work you should of casted a iron table for the Dewalt easier
Wait, when you filed down the end of the axle to use the dado blades, didn't that change the center of your single blade? Wouldn't your zero clearance plates and all the other changes you made be different now?
I refer your table saw workbench to maked one many month ago, and it can be adjust high when we replace the table saw.
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could you send me some photos by email? I think your idea will help other people. You will find my address at the end of the web: www.paoson.com
@@Paoson_Woodworking Please check email.