thanks for all the info, a friend of mine gave me a craftsman generator with the same engine as yours, he also gave me the carb but didn't know how to adjusted. I'm going to try this myself. What an awesome explanation of the reps and hertz. God bless you and thank you.
Just found your channel. Have same generator which just went through engine. I did fail to note or photo the governor spring setting, but you were kind enough to show a lighted close up of just what I needed.
I have older like this. 10 hp. tecumseh. Your tips on adjusting the hertz up made a big difference. Spring was in proper position . Thank you very much. Have a great day.
Right before you said it, I was thinkin', if he's waiting to get that to 60 ALL DAY, that's how long he'll be there. That's a sweet "new" generator. Kudos
I have a very similar generator that I got from a neighbor also. It has sat for who knows how long, and I’m replacing the carb so this video will help once I get to the point of dialing it in.
i just got me a used Coleman Powermate 3500 with a very bad surging condition when in "idle control" mode. Normal (idle control off) mode seemed to work fine, although engine ran a bit fast (putting out 135 volts from outlet). Many RUclips vids say surging is due to the carburetor that's dirty inside and not delivering fuel consistently, but it wasn't the problem that caused surging in my case. After cleaning the shit out of the carburetor with Gumout carb cleaner and other means (cleaning jets with wire, etc), it turned out my issue was a small electric solenoid/actuator that needed adjusting via loosening/retightening the adjustment nuts on its' small metal bracket. This actuator is located right on top of the carburetor in my case and its' function is to basically limit the RPM to 2000 via the carburetor when idle control is turned on at the front panel (Eco mode to save gas, polar bears and baby seals up north, no doubt). A simple 30 second fix that cost me almost a day to figure out. Coleman instructions were useless in the so-called "manual", by the way. It said to "adjust the solenoid/magnet to correct idle control that won't latch" (whatever that means!), but no picture or description of the actual adjustment mechanism/procedure was provided. I guess only small engine repair techs buy Coleman, huh?
Good stuff, did you test under load to see if the mechanical regulator kept it linear enough? I have seen it before where underload the mechanical regulator will result in higher and lower speed (and corresponding voltage output), just because of the hysteresis of the mechanical system.
Nice to know just picked up 3 like gen sets w/small gas tanks however. Problem is they all run fine for a while, then shut down. You pull start them again, same thing. Run a while then shut down. Do you think it could be the coil over heating in all 3, causing this?? What are the odds?? Please advise. By the way just found you today. 5/16/2021 Good luck and waiting to here from you.👍✌
This video was very helpfull i have 2 questions witch whole on carburator did u end up using and i have same generator i bought new carb and it has what looks like a second fuel spikit on it. Is this an overflow or for primer or vacuum. Hopefully u can help thank u
When adjusting the governor nut on the spring arm, do this. Adjust it under a load, say 15 amps worth. Get it to 60 Hz and it will come in about 122 volts. When you take the load of completely, you will get a slightly higher volt reading around 130 and Hz will be about 63 Hz or so. Don't be concerned at all with those numbers, when there is no electrical load on it. Be concerned of the right numbers when it's under load. Hope that helps someone.
OMG pple everything you complain about that he did not show you right granted he not take your little hand & walk you thru EVERY little detail (1) you can see clearly what whole he put it in, use that thing between your ears other than hat rack, you can do it
Would of been nice if you showed adjustments or at least explained what you did to get rid of that surging also what hole you put the governor rod in. THANKS FOR NOTHING!!!!
Exact problem that brought me here. I won't say "thanks for nothing" because it helped me understand the governor but yeah, an explanation of the surge correction would have been nice.
thanks for all the info, a friend of mine gave me a craftsman generator with the same engine as yours, he also gave me the carb but didn't know how to adjusted. I'm going to try this myself. What an awesome explanation of the reps and hertz. God bless you and thank you.
Just found your channel. Have same generator which just went through engine. I did fail to note or photo the governor spring setting, but you were kind enough to show a lighted close up of just what I needed.
I have older like this. 10 hp. tecumseh. Your tips on adjusting the hertz up made a big difference. Spring was in proper position . Thank you very much. Have a great day.
Right before you said it, I was thinkin', if he's waiting to get that to 60 ALL DAY, that's how long he'll be there. That's a sweet "new" generator. Kudos
Thanks! I bought this same generator cheap, but it has a governor problem. Now I can try to make it right
Very clear, great explanations, covered my exact problem.
Thank you!
I have a very similar generator that I got from a neighbor also. It has sat for who knows how long, and I’m replacing the carb so this video will help once I get to the point of dialing it in.
Thanks. This is exactly what I needed to see.
Thanks for sharing your generator fix. Kudos on scoring a 4KW freebie!
The loud noise alerts are appreciated.
When I finish rebuild these I set the Hertz at 62-63 hertz so when you put the load on and it naturally drops its about the proper hertz of about 60
Great explanation and "teaching" Thanks
Wow very beautiful generator specially the Tecumshe engine 😍
i just got me a used Coleman Powermate 3500 with a very bad surging condition when in "idle control" mode. Normal (idle control off) mode seemed to work fine, although engine ran a bit fast (putting out 135 volts from outlet).
Many RUclips vids say surging is due to the carburetor that's dirty inside and not delivering fuel consistently, but it wasn't the problem that caused surging in my case. After cleaning the shit out of the carburetor with Gumout carb cleaner and other means (cleaning jets with wire, etc), it turned out my issue was a small electric solenoid/actuator that needed adjusting via loosening/retightening the adjustment nuts on its' small metal bracket. This actuator is located right on top of the carburetor in my case and its' function is to basically limit the RPM to 2000 via the carburetor when idle control is turned on at the front panel (Eco mode to save gas, polar bears and baby seals up north, no doubt). A simple 30 second fix that cost me almost a day to figure out.
Coleman instructions were useless in the so-called "manual", by the way. It said to "adjust the solenoid/magnet to correct idle control that won't latch" (whatever that means!), but no picture or description of the actual adjustment mechanism/procedure was provided. I guess only small engine repair techs buy Coleman, huh?
When you first crank the engine it was surging, how did you correct the surging?
Great video. Had the same problem
Great stuff here, thanks for the video
Excellent vid!...david
Good stuff, did you test under load to see if the mechanical regulator kept it linear enough? I have seen it before where underload the mechanical regulator will result in higher and lower speed (and corresponding voltage output), just because of the hysteresis of the mechanical system.
Nice to know just picked up 3 like gen sets w/small gas tanks however. Problem is they all run fine for a while, then shut down. You pull start them again, same thing. Run a while then shut down. Do you think it could be the coil over heating in all 3, causing this?? What are the odds?? Please advise. By the way just found you today. 5/16/2021 Good luck and waiting to here from you.👍✌
This video was very helpfull i have 2 questions witch whole on carburator did u end up using and i have same generator i bought new carb and it has what looks like a second fuel spikit on it. Is this an overflow or for primer or vacuum. Hopefully u can help thank u
Very informative.
When adjusting the governor nut on the spring arm, do this. Adjust it under a load, say 15 amps worth. Get it to 60 Hz and it will come in about 122 volts.
When you take the load of completely, you will get a slightly higher volt reading around 130 and Hz will be about 63 Hz or so.
Don't be concerned at all with those numbers, when there is no electrical load on it.
Be concerned of the right numbers when it's under load. Hope that helps someone.
I missed it or maybe that's another video but how did you stop it from surging? I have a similar generator and problem?
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Good one
Nicely done !
Now that's an educational video unlike some other clowns that do nothing but blah blah blah farrrrrrrt blah blah blah .Thank you Sir Mister
When the generator is off the carb is at full throttle will that cause the carb to flood?
no
Thanks for the info !!!
I know its been a while but would you happen to know the part number of the carburetor used on that unit? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I put new carb on
And all it wants to do is over rev. The govnner should close it but it's not. I've adjusted the linkage by bending it random ways.
I got same one. I just can't figure it out wants to over rev
I got a new carb
Love free.
Where did you get a large fuel.tank like that?
Would have been really helpful to show which hole was used on the carb!
At 9:18 you can see which one he used
What is the Tecumseh model number on that engine? I have the same unit but my tag is rusted.
It is HM80 if I remember correctly. I have the same generator. I want to know where he got the fuel tank for it.
I have this exact one an mine wants to surge occaisionally
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OMG pple everything you complain about that he did not show you right granted he not take your little hand & walk you thru EVERY little detail (1) you can see clearly what whole he put it in, use that thing between your ears other than hat rack, you can do it
Don't anyone ask him the time....we don't need to know how to build a watch......
PS 4 .8 kilowatt
talk,talk, but no clue what you are doing, you make things so complicated .
Too long winded...
Would of been nice if you showed adjustments or at least explained what you did to get rid of that surging also what hole you put the governor rod in. THANKS FOR NOTHING!!!!
Rob Smith the surging was probably due to the thing being set below the operating range of the governor.
Exact problem that brought me here. I won't say "thanks for nothing" because it helped me understand the governor but yeah, an explanation of the surge correction would have been nice.