Is Lars To Blame For Metallica's Big Fails?
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Is Lars To Blame For Metallica's Big Fails?
This video is an observation on some opinions expressed in the Channel @Heavi 's video "The victims Of Lars Ulrich" which you can view here:
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Lars Ulrich and Metallica's Wreckage
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@Masterlessmusic "The wreckage..." is an infuriating manipulative piece of clickbait crap taking things out of context deliberately turning things on Lars, whether he had part in it at all, tried to prevent stuff or whatever. It does not have enough credibility to take up space on the internet. You'll definitely hear a VERY different story from Flemming Rasmussen, I'll tell you that much. From Jason also. And then they conveniently left out the part in the Napster suit of it being leaked unreleased studio material (I disappear)
There are PA-LENTY of videos out there with all of the involved parties speaking up for themselves and all of their wants and wishes... at least half of the shit flung at Lars just doesn't stick.
I have heard a "fix" of St. Anger... ummm it doesn't sound bad. Not at all actually. But it just sounds wrong. In a lot of key places anyway. I'm not exactly sure what it is, but there is something to that raw unfiltered sound that just makes it... visceral... they keyed into something.
I prefer the official remix of some kind of monster. All the internet attempts at it mostly suck except perhaps those guys who did a complete re recording. I think it's called Stanger 2015 or something like that. That wasn't a bad attempt.
The bands production team did the best one but they only did it with one track.
There are some positives to the original but for me the negatives outweigh the positives and my ears just can't tolerate it. 😂 Anyway, it's up to each listener I suppose but for me Lars' dad said it best. "There's a musicality to Metallica" St Anger for me, pissed all over that.
@Masterlessmusic One of the exact points , for me, is the intro to Dirty window, done with a regular snerre and cleaned up guitars... it just doesn't work. It's supposed to sound the way it does on the album.
@@martinpoulsen6564 we're just going to have to disagree on that one I'm afraid. The "poong! poong! " is bad enough with the other instruments over it, but isolated with loads of repetitive hits in that pattern... Just does my head in. Each to his own though as they say.
Hetfield wouldn't let Lars walk all over him? Have you seen Some Kind of Monster? The entire movie is just James being Lars' bitch.
@@GrindBass86 I think your interpretation of that is off a little. Try and remember who's in rehab under threat of divorce and who isn't.
When you're fighting for your kids and marriage, you tend to re prioritise your life somewhat.
So no, I don't agree. Even in the scene where Lars gets up in his face, Hetfield is actually very calm and in control in that moment. Un phased you might say. Whereas earlier in the process it's just escalation. They'd both get a pissed off at each other. Often.
Again, this stuff is well known. Those two used to fight over all kinds of stuff, all the time.
Nobody in the band metallica knows who you are.. and while you make some valid points
I don’t think they care one bit
I don’t know how close the celebrity net worth website is
But it says that large is worth 350, million I doubt he cares what anyone else thinks
@@janiterinadrum1627 yeah. I'm sure you're right. Don't forget what the video is about. Everyone is getting wrapped up in the criticisms of the band. However the video is actually more about Heavi's original video which places responsibility solely on Lars' shoulders and in my view makes him into more a villain than he deserves.
I couldn't give a damn if Lars knew me or not. It's simply a set of observations following my viewing of their video. It's not that they make false claims, simply that they place all of it on Lars for dramatic effect.
The band have made mistakes. I'm simply saying they've done so at the very least with James and Lars operating as a partnership and I'm sure Kirk is consulted at the very least.
Hope that makes sense.
Hey there! We were just talking about Lars with a friend and how he's the bogeyman. He has gotten a lot of shit (deservedly) but he's just a dude whose whole life is that band. Same as all of them. I have full respect for the man. And I still talk shit about him. :D Also consider your camera angle man. Camera should be on the eye level for the subject not to appear a) Giant b) Retarded C) Retarded Giant
This is not an industry secret.
Anyways keep it up dude. The talk is on point. Respect
@@jussiniemi9560 😂 retarded Giant... Yeah, so after recently having my 3rd child it's become very difficult to impossible to film at home as I normally would.
So what happens is sometimes my boss decides he needs to save on labour costs and stars sending people home. So on those occasions I run into an old church hall my mates and I purchased for our Kendo club.
Sometimes I have a camera mount with me but on this occasion I did not. So I just made the best of it hand held. So yeah, absolutely would film it completely differently if I had the time and space right now but until the wife goes back to work this is how I'm having to roll.
Unscripted, short notice and working with whatever is to hand at the time 😂.
Thanks for kind words on the topic discussion though. I'll take that any day. With only 149 subs and such a divisive topic this video has over performed compared to my expectations. I thought I'd be doing well breathing life back into the channel after time out for the birth to 6 months period if it reached 3 or 4 hundred views. Maybe a comment or two...
So having read your comment and knowing someone actually listened to the crux of what I was on about. I'll take that as a success and more than I was hoping for.
Hopefully back to hone setup with pro audio and pop guard etc soon. Maybe a month or two now.
Cheers! Appreciate you stopping by.
@@Masterlessmusic Hey, glad you weren't offended. Was just banter. :D
I realized that you also play a wicked guitar so i will not call you neither retarded or giant or any combination of those. You do play really good.
Yes sure, why not?
My brother worked as a hunting guide in the 90's in Wyoming and James and a few of his friends booked a tour. They wanted to pouch out of season and when he threatened to pull their permits and report them to Fish and Wildlife Hetfield acted like an entitled asshole about it.
@@NPK476 That's disappointing to hear. I don't disagree with hunting when it's done right and the kill provides a few meals for a family and so on. Poaching is on another level and simply taking animals down for the challenge only bugs me as well. Unless perhaps a cull is required maybe... Even then, it's a shame it has to be done.
The prima Donna thing really is disappointing though.
@@Masterlessmusic I grew up around it, but when someone like James goes to a foreign country to shoot a hibernating bear in a cave as portrayed in the film Some Kind of Monsters and think they're entitled to pouch, those people are the absolute worst. It's not for food or to preservation at that point.
I'll take things that never happened for $800
...and then +.... it's just too easy. Hetfield is the big frontman nothing sticks to, whereas Lars is just the fkn foreigner drummer... I mean... come on...
Metallica lyrics are gone from Spotify again. Lars back to his old tricks I see.
@@jxbane I'm not in the loop on this. What do you mean ? Usually the distributor sorts that out by the way. Lyrics updated. It goes through a third party company that provides lyrics to all streaming platforms.
@@Masterlessmusic Metallica lyrics on Spotify have been occasionally removed such as right now. Then they strangely reappear.
I don't know why it happens so I just blame Lars lol
@@jxbane 😂
whar you're discussing is not a matter of opinion. The facts have already been established on who wrote what btwn Hetfield and Mustaine for Kill'em all and Ride the Lightning. Same thing for how, why the bass has been muted on AJFA and who's to blame for it. You should do your research... they are plenty of interviews and videos if you want to know the facts
So basically you're saying you don't agree and it's all Lars? Hetfield just sat by and said okay dude? I know who's credited for what by the way. I also think there's a lot of "he said this and he said that" and the truth is probably somewhere in between. I've been following these guys for 30 years now and read and watched so many interviews with them and Mustaine.
A recent interview with Hetfield where he talks about the sonic direction of load and reload being something he wasn't comfortable with for example. Does that mean Lars forced it or simply that Hetfield signed off at the time and has since come to regret it? Lars sure as shit didn't bring country influences into the band. I'm damn sure he didn't directly force everyone to cut their hair and put on makeup.
Thing is, a lot has been said over the years and people's stories have changed somewhat over time as well.
As for AJFA, I can say from experience that it's audible to me that the drums are certainly way up in the mix sure, but it's also clear to me that the guitars are taking up low end that they have no business occupying. They also lack general mid range. If you mix in bass at this point normally the guitars go back in the mix not through level but through lack of separation. It sounds like a guitar player who doesn't know how to mix eq'd it. And they're too loud. Actually now I think about it Hetfield is even on record saying "The guitars are really loud, the drums are really loud, it's really clear who's mixing it". So I'm pretty sure he's on record with that one. Might be the Black Album VH1 documentary or one of those older clips. Can't quite recall exactly which. Pretty sure he's said the same elsewhere though.
I did say in the video as well that Metallica should have been more transparent about what Dave contributed but that Dave fans tend to treat it as if Metallica completely ripped off everything on the first two records. Granted, I perhaps wasn't explicit in that and perhaps I should've been. That's what I meant when I said his contribution is sometimes overstated in some ways but understated in others ( ie. Particular riffs and arrangement ideas)
I also don't dispute Flemming Rasmussen's account. I simply think those two acted together rather than it resting only on Lar's shoulders.
As for Napster, Kirk had his back... No one else in the band stopped him either.
My issue isn't even with what's been said by whom. It's simply the slant that Heavi puts on it. Which is the point of the video. That is just Lars and Hetfield gets away squeeky clean.
Sorry, but I just can't buy that.
@@neutronstar7803 so regards the point on AJFA mixing and production Time stamp 5.35 here : ruclips.net/video/wz2JNNCsVt0/видео.htmlsi=AxoX-o8yj8c2wD1g
what big fails?
@@user-xb6fl9ri6g 😂...letting a record go to the pressing plant with no bass is just fine then?
Releasing the absolute turd that was St Anger...? Which by the way, could've been a decent record. It's got some good things going for it but it's not a good mix, and it really needed tightening up in the editing room.
The fact that the rehearsal DVD that came with the album sounded better in some ways than the album speaks volumes. In that, even in their objective to capture the sound of Metallica just jamming "in a garage" failed somewhat by them taking the concept too far. I also think that how the band themselves look back on it and are prepared to admit that it could've been handled better supports this. On the plus side, the process itself probably saved the band from complete self destruction. So I get it in that sense.
Firing Dave was the right call at the time and as Dave acknowledged that he "fucked up", I think deep down he knows that too. How they handled crediting his contributions to the first two albums in those earlier years wasn't so great. Not only from a inter personal perspective, but had Dave been really thorough in protecting his IPs better, it would have exposed the band to a potentially career ending law suit.
They got away with that and dodged a bullet and probably enjoyed a lot of press coverage over the years as the Megadeth Vs Metallica thing played out in magazines and radio interviews over the years. That being said, as I state in the video, some Megadeth fans take it too far and present an image that Dave basically wrote the majority of the first two records and without him they'd have had nothing. That's a step too far. Again, could've been handled better.
The Load and Reload Era is for me a creative choice and I don't hate those records. They're not my favourites but I still think they're good records mostly. I simply don't think Lars should take responsibility on his own for the change of direction.
That's the crux of the video. Heavi's video sets out to blame all of these things squarely on Lars' shoulders and I don't think that's right. Hetfield and Ulrich are a partnership and nothing gets through the gates without mutual agreement from the pair of them.
Did they disagree on things? Yeah, because they used to fight a lot in the studio. However I what comes out at the end of the process is what is a result of the final agreement, not Lars winning an argument by silencing Hetfield.
Regards Napster, Lars was absolutely right and no one took him seriously. At least Kirk had his back publicly by appearing at the hearings with him. I can't imagine Kirk doing so if Hetfield didn't at least support in principle. He most likely was happy for Lars to speak for the band as he often did in those days. Lars is pretty thick skinned, and it's served him well over the years.
I wouldn't have that crazy little Danish guy any other way.
To say they haven't made any big blunders though is naive. Everyone makes mistakes. In Metallica's case they simply had great songs that are hard to argue with as Bob Rock said once, and they made mostly good calls on most things.
@@Masterlessmusic Don't forget about Lulu and changing their image and sound in the 90's. Not sure if the corporate greed is Lars or the management, but it's disgraceful at this point.
@@NPK476 yeah Lulu... Grim... However this video was specifically addressing the video by Heavi which never raised Lulu.
If I had to guess I'd say that's the band not management. It's not like they need to collaborate to stay relevant. They're a bigger draw than Lou Reid. As far as I can tell they're genuine fans of the guy so that's why they did it.
The you had the Lady Gaga thing... 😆
@@Masterlessmusic In the US a few politicians actually called out Metallica over the ticket scandal in 2019. They (or a single metallica employee) colluded with Live Nation and were buying their own tickets and selling on the black market at a higher price. I'm not sure what metallica's involvement was or if they knew about it but seeing how they now charge 3,000 USD for paid meet and greets when only 2 members show up, it wouldn't surprise me.
@@NPK476 now that's the sort of thing that sounds like management. That wouldn't surprise me at all. Like I'd be surprised if the band has any clue what their actual take home is these days and there are so many revenue streams. They generally have no time for sorting that out so it's up to management to sort it out.
They just get told when they're supposed to go here or there. At least for a band operating on that financial level. It'll be the case that they barely make any changes unless there's a problem. Like in the Some Kind of Monster DVD when they're talking contracts with Rob and the shares come up. The guy from management says "you get 15 votes you get 15,you get 15 (James Lars and Kirk) and you get 10 (Rob). I'm speculating here but I'm guessing that was the way it was the last time they sat down to do that which was when they on boarded Jason. That would mean the band had a 55 percent voting power. Enough to override management but not enough to steam roll them. At that point though Metallica didn't have leverage over any AnR company or label to ask for more. At the point of St Anger (ie post Black Album), no one in their right mind is going to drop Metallica over equity right. Lars is wise to this and has likely discussed it with James and Kirk by that point and pipes up with "how about he gets 25,he gets 25,he gets 25,I get 25 and Q Prime (the management company) is the type writer". The guy literally shrinks in his chair and just says "okay".
That's how big that machine is by the early 2000s. That's probably a good example of Lars doing something smart though 😂.
Lars is a fail as it is... So, yes.
@@ejv.96 depends by what metric he's measured : If it's his bank balance, then he's succeeded pretty well 😂, if it's his credibility within the metal community, then yeah, you're probably right.
I think 🤔, if I'm being completely fair to the guy, he's also made his fair share of really good decisions as well. Whether it's on Song arrangements or marketing things like which song to pick for singles or track sequencing and titles... He's got an instinct for that stuff.
When it's steering the overall direction though I think he's too commercially minded. So he's chasing adoration. Thinking about how they'll be perceived, rather than making a killer record that sounds immense
I think once they went over the cliff of mega stardom and became sheltered in their own bubble then things really went into the area of second guessing themselves and trying to "stay relevant" which was really just another way of saying "maintain this level of success".
That's not to say they didn't do stupid shit before that but it wasn't as blatant.
Lars would seem to be the worst for it but honestly, I think James isn't too far behind.
Post 90s, Kirk's spirit is basically broken after his "blues oddessy". He gives his opinion and no one listens. The other two just fight over the top of him...
No, it sounds better for not having bass. It sounds comparatively bloated with bass. A fraction if any more bass, but beyond that and certainly according to norms it would not have the snap or the swagger. There are plenty of other records that also sound great without that instrument and it's associated frquencies.
@@Whiskel we'll put that one down to personal preference and we'll have to agree to disagree.
The technical reason is because the mids are scooped out of the guitars with top and bottoms likely boosted so the guitars are what's actually causing the bloat when you add in any kind of real low end. Same goes for the kick. The snares too loud but I personally don't mind it that much because it's a nice snare sound.
So I can respect your preference but, if it was properly adjusted with all stems available it wouldn't sound bloated and it would retain clarity and separation. Something they could do since they got all their masters back.
@@Masterlessmusic Fair enough.