Rock Shox Dart 3 Service & Repair, How To Tear Down Same as Dart 1/2 & many more
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- In this video I strip down the Rock Shox as they were getting really stiff, carry out a service and repair, a step by step guide to the job.
Also I explain and demonstrate how the lockout, rebound & preload work.
Link to RockShox suspension oil on Amazon , £6 amzn.to/38QBXeu
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This was perfect for rebuilding my Dart 3. It's on a Giant XTC2 I bought new in 2008. I never serviced the fork, and it ceased to work a couple years ago. When I disassembled it, there wasn't much oil in it. No chrome pitting, thankfully. Now it works perfectly. Thanks mate!
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Great video mate. Clear, concise and you managed to explain the functions of each component in plain English without getting overly technical as some others have a habit of doing. Therefore I found it very easy to understand as a newcomer to mountain bike specific parts and service. I now realise these things are not as complex as I had initially thought. Now feeling confident to give this a go on my own dart shocks, as they are behaving similarly to the way yours were previously. Many thanks for taking the time to make this video!
Thanks for the great comments, definitely worth giving it a bash👍🏻👍🏻
This guy is the proper stuffs, explains it properly and demonstrated properly, I've learnt alot from it! Really welldone and thank you mate.
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I want to give you a thanks for your video. I bit the bullet last night and completely stripped down the dart forks I have. They where completely jammed, and the chrome legs were pretty rusted up this was dealt with with some wet& dry and then wire wool. Once i had cleaned the lowers and the legs, greased them up and re assembled the forks work like a dream. So thanks. Much appreciated.
Well done sounds like you have done a great repair Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
While some of your practices were a little heavy handed and some I admit just wrong (pouring old oil back in? 🤔) you have demonstrated how many people will realistically do it for their first time (and in the kitchen too - classic 😂)
I respect your video and explanations, it will help some peeps that think a fork service is like rocket science! I hope those reading will take this advice but also watch a professional service video to find a nice balance 👍 for examples just having your bike in a stand (or like me, propped up using a couple of old chairs) would resolve some of the faffing and allows for a much easier dissemble & assembly. Also, tapping the bolts and sliding off the legs (lowers) first makes the rest of the job easier too.
Thanks man here's a like! 👍
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Thanks for this bud,I stripped the forks down following step by step,put new oil in forks checked seals etc, they are now working like new Thanks 😊
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Thanks for making this video. I used it as a guide for servicing my dart 3 which hadn't been opened in 12 years. Seems to have a much better action now. I did run into a small issue: the cap over the oil side lower reservoir flew off on my first compression of the fork. Not sure what I screwed up, but I refilled the reservoir and it has been fine since. Thanks again for the comprehensive guide
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From Argentina, thanks. Simple, easy and economic, fantastic.
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Thank you so much for this. I need to do mine but I was afraid to take it apart and not be able to get it back together. Feel confident after seeing you do it.
You can do it! Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Brilliant video! I will now tackle my RockShox Dart 3 forks (circa 2008).
Go for it! Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
FYI, the Dart 3 service manual says 93ml of oil - I followed this guide, added 100ml, and couldn't compress the forks more than 15-20mm. I emptied them, and put 93ml in, and they worked like new.
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I really enjoyed your video, so laid back, friendly, great pace and explanations, thank you!
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Super helpful video my dude; clear, concise information without trying to get me to download raid shadow legends. Much appreciated!
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Thanks for this video mate. It was very helpful. Soon I'll give it a try on my dart 2 fork.
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What a brilliant video. I was struggling to find examples with the same bike as me. Total beginner looking to service during the COVID isolation. Thank you loads.
Loving the lockdown maintenance, a small benefit in a crazy world, Thanks Rich for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Thanks from the Northwoods of Minnesota! Just had the dampner threads fail on a ride and this video is great and helps me understand my fork.
Sounds lovely Northwood, thanks for the great comments 👍🏻👍🏻🛠
well done.. i've got a giant terrago with a dart 2 on it.. it will be helpful for sure..thanks
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Thanks a lot for posting this. Clear instructions and in plain English. I've just taken a Dart 2 apart and expected to see the same problem as you but I didn't. No sign of rust but the oil was quite dirty. It went back together OK but the problem is still there. I suspect the problem is in the lock out assembly. I'm reluctant to take this apart (even if it's possible) as I've no idea what's inside. One thing about the fork I don't like is the use of plastic to hold the whole thing together, I don't think this is very strong.
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Great video Anton. I have exactly the same , the Rockhopper in silver with seized forks. Was going to purchase new but now with your inspiration I’m getting stuck into a fork service. Many thanks.
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Great video man! good explanation about how to clean and service a fork! I really learned a lot.
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That was an excellent video. Thanks very much for taking the time to make it!
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Excellent video! Appreciate you brother. Hopefully after watching, I’ll manage to rebuild my RockShox instead of ponying $$$ at the LBS. Thanks!
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Nicely done. Most helpful 👍
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Brilliant mate. Mine have completley seized. Gunna go by some grease tmrw and set my self the challenge. Cheers brilliant video👍
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Just came across this video , I have the exact same forks , and mine are also seized , was going to just replace with upgrade , but may have a look inside now after seeing this video of the exact same shocks (Y) You get yours to work again ?
This is super helpful. I was planning on just eating the cost of a new fork this summer when my summer job starts but hopefully I can clean it out and get it running like new.
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nice video. Mine were really stiff too (float2). Followed your video and they were also full of cruddy grease. Cleaned it up, new grease and oil and they are as good as new. Cheers!
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Thank you for the great tutorial. It looks pretty straightforward now.
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Excellent video, the lock- out control also appears to control the compression damping by changing the oil orifice opening,(similar to the rebound circuit you mentioned )
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Brilliant vid. Thanks for putting it up. I'm going to give it a go on my Dart2 which are completely frozen.
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Same here. Will defo give it a go now.😁
Thanks. Just did mine and they are working again.
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I have the exact same fork / hydraulic break system as yours , Specialized Hardrock Pro 2011 ? . So , this video is perfect for me , They are seized at the moment and now I will give it a shot to see if they can be saved before buying new and improved lol . Had many good bikes but none compare to my Specialized HardRock Pro
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I found using a wilco bottle brush makes cleaning the old gunk out of the fork lowers a doddle, perfect size & length for the job, only a quid too.
No service kit should be without one😉
( Other bottle brushes are available)
2010 Kona Fire Mountain, Dart 2's
Great tip! Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Good video, it has helped me figure out what was wrong with my fork. Thanks
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Good video. When you emptied the oil out you only had oil coming out from one side. When you filled the oil up you put oil in both sides. Do I put the 93ml of oil in both sides or just one side? Many thanks for your time.
This was a comment made by Papadopoulos Sotiris • 2 years ago hope it helps
Hello , thanks for the video. We actually have the exact same fork AND fork technology. These forks are actually produced with different techlogys depending on actual model. Now i have also serviced me fork using your video and a lot of others. I should mention that i only had a minor "small bump" bad sensitivity. I serviced the the tubes and bumper but that didn't fix much the problem. So i bought a "spare part service kit" Turned out that many of the seals on the bumper side had gotten "flat" or in a bad shape so i changed them. Now it is ok .
I have seen a REALY big mistake in your video . On minute 30:00 you add the fork oil on the lower legs but you don't move the legs a bit . It's hard for me to explain so please see this video ruclips.net/video/F0ji4sGcCrE/видео.html , on minute 6:00 he show the right way. Also note that we have a coil on the left leg so theoreticaly we need not put fork oil on left leg. But i did put some 5ml anyway like you did.
Also something else, the fork on the video above have two foam fork seals. Our forks have the place to put them but no seals inside. I have ordered some from Ebay, i sugest you too.
This video explains in detail what to do to service ruclips.net/video/OmehC5MJDHE/видео.html
Cheers buddy. Stripping mine down now!!
Give it a bash, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Appreciated. Going to have a go at reconditioning mine after watching the video!
Its a nice little job, and will make a massive difference, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Thanks - I was able to get my old bike into ship shape.
Fantastic Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Great job!
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Very Useful tutorial👍👍👍
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Great video thanks
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Thanks for a great video very good very good guide well told 👍
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Thanks for this. I understand how it works now
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This video is very helpful! My son got a used mtb with rockshox and I see what is wrong with his. It kinda works but the preload doesn’t turn. I think it is seized and the knob is cracked. I didn’t know enough when we bought the bike. Grrr. Oh well. It was a good deal, is there places to get replacement parts?
You can Fix it, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Thank you!
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Was great I need to do mine and never done it before.
its not a bad job, you will be ok, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
That is the issue of my reba too, i thinknyou are doing wrong. That friction you said is not caused by rubbing parts , its because there is a rubber cap inside, the best thing to do is adjust the tension of the spring
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Watching bro and thanks
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New big fan x
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Hello, what kind of oil should I put in the dart 2?
Link to RockShox suspension oil on Amazon , £6 amzn.to/38QBXeu Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
thanks
Thanks for watching 👍🏻🤪
Also watching this now
Thanks bro
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Hello mate! When you re-enter 100ml on the lockout sticks, is it possible to insert the RockShox 15wt ? like the bottom two? Thank you so much for your videos!
yes that should work no problem, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Great video really useful
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15 weight is ok in the bottom but according to the biketechtools website, the 100ml Inthe top should be 5 weight, it was helpful to see the forks being dismantled
The oil grade is not too important on these forks, as long as they have some in there😂 Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠
SRAM service for this specific model guide says 15 weight.
It’s really great video. Thanks for filming. My dart 2 is not working. It’s not moving even milimeter. I guess, i have similar problems with spring side which u solved in this video. Lockout mechanism is working, i checked. There’s oil in suspenssion side, nothing looks wrong. What do u think ? My suspicions about spring side is true? If u comment, i will be really greatful. Thanks.
You will need to strip it down to look for corrosion Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I did service to my dart2. Spring was full of dirt and rust. I cleaned and lubricate with gres. It’s really working now. Thanks for your help by filming this video.
Many thanks!
You're welcome! Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I have some questions, which oil you are using? you mention that is a pretty standart oil which one did you use in the video?
Link to RockShox suspension oil on Amazon , £6 amzn.to/38QBXeu Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Hi, do you think, that servicing the damper is important for smoothness of the fork ? I was servicing my 11 years old seized Dart 3 this week and didn't do the damper service, because I didn't have the suspension oil and the fork isn't running smooth at all, even tho i cleaned and lubricated everithing (except the damper...).
Did you have any corrosion on the spring side like on mine, this is the most probable cause, I don’t think changing the oil will help, could be wrong tho 👍🏻👍🏻🛠
@@aaanton11 yes, i have corrosion on both legs...
Watching bro
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good job, for a home bike mechanic.
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Thanks, very good!
BRASIL!
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Hello friend, my dart 2 boots that piece at the time of traveling the 100mm, sorry for the English I am using google translator, min 28:10
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Very helpful video, I found it after noticing oil/grease was passing my preload side, stanchion seal
on my Rockshox Recon Silver TK coil forks. Is a new a new seals kit available for my forks? The compression of my forks still feels smooth to me, but that stuff passing the seals makes me think it needs a bit of a service. On the 100ml of oil you put back in.....will any 15 weight fork oil do for that?
Thanks again
it works for me👍🏻 Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Had a question for you if you could help? I’m following this step by step and am at the point where I’m supposed to pull the leg off. It doesn’t seem to want to move past maybe four inches down the shaft. I’ve tried putting a good amount of force behind it with no luck. Any idea what I’m doing wrong?
Give it a good bash, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
You got any idea where you can get hold of a top cap ( left side ) cheers
You might get one off the rock Shox web page, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I have a Dart 2 with V-brakes that doesn’t have the lockout. One of my friends just gave me another Dart 2 with a lockout, but doesn’t have nubs for V Brakes. Would I be able to just swap the hollow legs?
Give it a try, it will go one of two ways, no harm done if they don't fit, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Is it possible to install the rebound damper into a set of dart 1s or are the legs different? Thank for the video.
I think it would be possible, but I would not bothe to go to that much effort, a second hand pair of pneumatic forks would be better, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Nice bro!!
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Hi Anton! Thanks for this video! I make my video's on exactly the same bike as you have :-D Love it! One question though, when you dismantled the fork, there was a lot of oil coming out of it, way more than 2x 10ml. Can you tell why? Because now it looks that you put too less oil back in it!
maybe it looks more than it was? Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
@@aaanton11 Thanks for your reaction. But you said it was 100ml, so that's more than 2x 10ml. It's at 7m50s. So i'm a bit confused about that.
Hi my man, can you use the shimano mineral oil in the forks the stuff you use in your hydraulic brakes
Different stuff, I wouldn't, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Luckily mine are not connected to the bike :) thanks for the video im watching in 2020
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One question: can you upgrade a DART 1 fork to 2 or 3?
Of course we like a good upgrade Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Great video, did you ever replace the forks? If so which set did you buy?
Not yet! these are still working fantastic, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
This fork will probably keep going for a long time, since it is a spring fork
do these fork need foam rings?
They do have rings in them Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Uff Full Ok Gracias
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What type of oil is used?
Its in the video description Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
i didn't notice when did you add new oil ? what kind of ?
Link to suspension oil on Amazon , £6 amzn.to/2QjiKeP , Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I bought 7WT oil before knowing i needed 15WT, do i need 15 WT?
It won’t make much difference Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
does it help if the fork is wiggling a bit ? and what was the name of the oil ? thanks in advance
The more they wear the more they wiggle, the oil is fork oil, thanks for the great comments 👍🏻👍🏻🛠
@@aaanton11 thanks for the reply man ,the video was great and helpful:)
Wire wool to clean sanctions... Reusing the old hacky damping oil... Cheap grease.... Perhaps these are the reasons you have stuff seeping through the seals 🤔
Also not sure you need to inject the additional oil into the bottom of the legs. That filthy oil you poured back in is the damping oil.
Useful disassembly / reassembly vid but you're not coming anywhere near my bike with that wirewool!! 🫣
The legs are old, a bit of wire wool wont hurt 😂 Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Thanks very much, but can makes my lockout not to work
Strip it down and have a look, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Is this the same as a rockshox Judy 4
It’s very similar, thanks for the great comments 👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I dismantle my own shox but couldn't fix it again
Try again you can do it, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I cant get the outer legs off pls help
is it the lower part? Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I thought this was satire at first, but this guy thinks he's brilliant! Who does a fork service with the wheel on and the fork installed in the bike?!?! Oh, this guy does... Horribly done, unless you were joking. If so, this is brilliant.
I definitely don't think I am brilliant, what gave you that impression 😂😂 Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Hello , thanks for the video. We actually have the exact same fork AND fork technology. These forks are actually produced with different techlogys depending on actual model. Now i have also serviced me fork using your video and a lot of others. I should mention that i only had a minor "small bump" bad sensitivity. I serviced the the tubes and bumper but that didn't fix much the problem. So i bought a "spare part service kit" Turned out that many of the seals on the bumper side had gotten "flat" or in a bad shape so i changed them. Now it is ok .
I have seen a REALY big mistake in your video . On minute 30:00 you add the fork oil on the lower legs but you don't move the legs a bit . It's hard for me to explain so please see this video ruclips.net/video/F0ji4sGcCrE/видео.html , on minute 6:00 he show the right way. Also note that we have a coil on the left leg so theoreticaly we need not put fork oil on left leg. But i did put some 5ml anyway like you did.
Also something else, the fork on the video above have two foam fork seals. Our forks have the place to put them but no seals inside. I have ordered some from Ebay, i sugest you too.
This video explains in detail what to do to service ruclips.net/video/OmehC5MJDHE/видео.html
Wow thanks for the great comments and information 👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Вилке хана, после такой переборки
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Working with a dirty bike and dirty parts... Your hands and tools are shaking, man ! :) Nice job, though. Cheers.
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Quarantine Porn here
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