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Suspension fork settings - What they mean
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- This is an incomplete overview of air suspension forks, and what the settings mean on the vast majority of them. This video does not provide detailed instructions on how to set up your fork, but it does give you an idea of what to Google when you're digging in.
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Click on your fork and then go to the "service" tab. It's usually printed on the fork though.
When in doubt, Google it!
If you're looking for a transcript of this video, it was too long to paste here. Turn on closed captions and everything is there!
Seth, as a father who's kids are switching from BMX to MTB as their primary rides, I want to pass on my thanks. A Dad is meant to be the tech guru for their kids, they come to you for the things in life that thy do not understand. Now I have MTB air suspension covered, so thank you sooooo much. Very very helpful and informative video. Easy to see why "a bike guy on youtube" has almost 700k subscribers.
Adam, Melbourne Australia.
thanks Adam! That means the world to me
TheTorkerman-Adam my main man dad
DOUBLE R DIZZLE ha ha, go finish your homework!!!
it's cool to be able to sit on the couch and have the info spoon-fed to me so I appreciate it too but I mean, it's not like this is difficult info to figure out on your own if you wanted to lol
@@dummkompf yes, usually people can learn from trial and error if they want it, but you know, if "error" means your kids ending up injured, it's better to learn from someone that actually knows the stuff.
7:43
THAT JUMP!!!
Dude, it looks epic!
That was fucking crazy!
I clicked this expecting to go hella far forward or back in the video but as i clicked it, the video just hit 7:43
@@blanco2k yo I just did the exact same thing
Every time I start to have a problem with my bike. Seth instantly makes a video... I love this guy.
Thanks dude! This has got to be the simplest and easiest to understand explanation about suspension setup. I've always just relied on the bike shop to dial everything in for me, and then I just record everything they've done so that I can maintain those settings. Now I feel like I can start playing with those settings without fear of screwing everything up.
+Rene G my job here is done! Only YOU can find the perfect setting by tweaking it on the fly
Rene G Find the manufacturer's setup guides for your shock and fork model and use the recommended settings for your weight as starting point. Then ride a trail that has a little bit of everything and apply the concepts taught by Seth on this video to better tune your suspension to your preferences and riding style. Make sure you understand what is the effect of every setting and you'll be able to tweak the right settings without much guessing. If you don't really feel what you are doing, go and change one thing at a time go to the maximum and minimum of the range and do a short trail...these big changes will allow you to feel what each setting does. It is good to use full travel (bottom out) a few times on each ride but not feeling a hard hit when reaching full travel (harsh bottom out). No one cane better set your suspension up than you! You will feel rewarded after spending a few long rides tuning your suspension!!!
You forgot to mention that when setting the sag on your fork its best to be on the pedals and in an aggressive riding position or shoulders relatively over the bars. its key for getting proper sag readings.
Dude, that last clip of you jumping was absolutely SICK!
I have a coil fork,but I still watch this😂😂😂
Codrin Gogoasa same..
the compression and rebound settings will still be the same as explained in this video but to change how still your fork is would require ordering new springs with a stiffer spring rate (if your fork company offers them). Also means you cant change how progressive the fork is because springs for bike suspension are inherently linear
Codrin Gogoasa same
Codrin Gogoasa, suspensia mea este una foooarte simpla si deabea ca se misca
😂😂😂not me but I'm dead
Bro I searched forever for a simple video on what those caps on the suspension do and omg thank you
Love the explanation! You actually used real language everyone can understand (i.e. squishy). Awesome video!
One of the best vids I've seen on this topic Seth. Wonderful job!
Really good stuff!
Is training just pain or as you say 'pain and pleasure' while climbing slickrock?
v1d300 slickrock is fun ive ridden it probably 15 times its not that hard either its rather easy for me
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Clint's channel is great too. He's very meticulous and knowledgeable. Great stuff on bike repair and maintenance.
@1:55 did you create the graphic for the progressive travel explanation? (Nicely done)
+ForbinColossus Thanks, and yes all the animations are original
@@SethsBikeHacks I love your videos and I cannot stop liking your bikes
I love both your and Clint's channels! You should absolutely do more collaborations together! Two guys making MTB easier to understand and more enjoyable! Or maybe even combine efforts and create a super mega awesome channel!! :)
I have a coil fork and I have no idea what the settings knob do.
7Tech coil forks like that are easy the adjuster is preload, it changes the progression of your fork
i cant remember if its + or - preload (look it up) but it winds the spring inside in or out, making it stiffer or softer (set it for your weight)
I have no suspension at all. It looks so complicated.
if it's a cheap coil fork set it to the lowest possible setting (turn towards the minus)
v1d300 what kind of fork is it
Actually the most in detail and understandable video I have watched for how to set up your forks. Thanks Seth 👍🏼
Just watched Clint's video before watching this, so good to see you giving him a shout-out on your channel!
For some reason I watch all of your videos even tho Iv never been mountain biking, the last bike I owned was when I was 8. I’m almost 18 now.
This week I reduced the pressure in my Rockshox. What a difference! I was a little reluctant to mess with it in the passed but now I have a little more confidence. Thanks again for the great info Seth.
Thanks for the intro to the suspension settings. Gives a nice big picture all at once so one can begin to understand what is going on and what the possibilities are.
I have a coil fork and the only thing I can control on it is the preload!
Cavan Goh you can also replace the spring in your fork to a different thickness, if that helps with anything
Sounds like you might have a lower end fork if all you have is pre load. On the nicer coil forks you can replace the spring as well as adjust your rebound and some of them even allowed you to add a small amount of air. You could replace the spring but you might have a pretty tough time finding one for that fork.
i cant even do that, the knob doesnt even fucking turn
jaakko200987654321 I have a Manitou fork. It's let's me change compression and rebound, on the manuel it says that it is also air assisted, but I cannot find where to add or remove air(I guess it is fixed), anyways it rides to firm so I'm ordering a new spring. Any suggestions, I weigh 140lbs. I don't want it too soft as I like to bunny hop and jump gaps. Thanks.
jaakko200987654321 same I might get a pliers at it
5:48 You Can Actually Hear His Heart Holy Shit LOL!!!
Finally a good and basic description of the suspension! It seems so logical it’s embarrassing to ask questions with other riders or bike shop mxs. It’s nice to be able to come here and get some clarification to start playing around. Thanks for the vid!
You never cease to amaze me with these videos.. Simplicity is key. You my friend have an art form for explaining things easily. Thanks from a Noob 😬
Seth that was perfect timing today I bought a downhill bike, and I needed to adjust the forks haha :)
Haha another badass video, very helpful! Im learning so much stuff off of your channel its great! Thanks brotha!
MtbFiend brother** 😂
Lukas Radzimski I like to say it as brothaaa haha Its a baseball thing my teammates and i had during the season haha
Seth you are killing it on the youtube views.. I would of never thought so many people are interested in tuning their fork
Great video Seth. I took my bike to a suspension specialist and they helped me understand all the different settings. I came out and my bike was way more lively, it felt like a new bike. I totally recommend playing with it even if it feels good, record what it's at and just play with it. You never know it could get better.
I have a pike 140mm and i like the rebound more to the faster side, but on my shock i like the rebound a little bit slower than on my fork
+The Pro Show same here
I was your 51st subscriber 😂😂 great videos by the way.
Seth you are such a great youtuber, you keep you’re videos nice and snappy and very well explained, while also making the video exiting to watch, keep up the good work, I’m loving the berm peak videos at the moment!
Best overall explanation of how, what all the parts related to a shock absorber are explained. Kudos!
Hi Seth.
Are these spacers reducing the travel of the fork? For example reduce a 140mm fork to 120mm, if using a 20mm spacer?
greetings from Germany, Heidelberg;) Great Videos by the way!
+Mo Weinhart No, they do not reduce the travel. They take up space inside the chamber, so there is less volume. So when you pump up the fork it takes less air to do it. Less air means less compressible gas, which means the fork will get firm quickly as it travels.
Thanks, Seth.
are spacers recommended to more aggressive styles?
Yes, it's probably more aggressive riders who are bottoming out their suspension and need it to ramp up more
Hi
The tokens would be a good thing to be 3D printed
Lachlan McNair wel no because 3d printed shit is pretty weak
Mr Cow no its not you just need the right filament and setting for your machine
Mr Cow the problem with 3dprinting the part wouldn't be it breaking it'd be the cost im pretty sure it's be cheaper to buy the part
Lord Reginald Peterson the parts cost alot
Lord Reginald Peterson 3 tokens cost over 15€... what a ripoff
I've been on a rigid fork for 4 years now with no hint of going back to suspension any time soon but man this was an enjoyable watch. Your videos are always very engaging and interesting to learn about new stuff even if I ride 99% skateparks and street.
I also find them very relaxing for some odd reason haha. Keep up the good work Seth!
Seth. I've recently had to semi-retire my running shoes for a more low impact pursuit, and have recently taken the plunge at a high end hard tail (Whyte 905). I've had mtb's in the past; most recently retiring my GT Aggressor XCR. A totally different kettle of fish! The bike is awesome, but what is equally inspiring are channels like yours and GMBN, et al. I like the way you simplify the techno-babble, and also pick apart the nitty gritty, plus give it to the viewer in layman' terms. I also enjoy watching your projects. Great channel. Keep up the good work dude 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
some guy came in to the bike shop I work at last year. Told me how he kept getting Peddle strikes while climbing. After discussing I found that as he didn't have a lockout he would just turn his rebound all the way open so his fork and rear shock would just sit at the bottum of their travel all the way up. I tried not to laugh so hard. he could benifit from this video for sure.
+Mike XT that's a perfect example of "packing up". His bike must have been riding like garbage!
Mike XT omg
wouldn't full open provide fast rebound, which is the opposite of packing down (closed rebound)?
you should do a water bottle holder video like which one is the best or comparison video please.
Thx mate. I’m almost 54 and just getting into off road riding my bike. Your info is invaluable to me.
Perfect! The visuals combined with the dialog made it the best fork how to I've ever seen.
I like to have my suspension a little bit softer, and have my rebound higher, it makes a really nice feel but if you don’t let it get soft enough it feels like a pogo stick with wheels.
Just curious what trail clint did in 2:58, it looks like the Vortex trail but was it the entire thing or just from the qualifier back to the freeride area? I'm down here now and want to see how fast I can ride the same trail, lol.
+robwas it's the little qualifier trail next to the wooden jumps!
Thanks, Seth. That was some really helpful stuff! I never really understood how the volume spacers worked til now.
One of the keys for me to understand things that cause me to shut down (because they feel overly technical) is to have it explained to me like I am a 5 year old. Thank you Seth! I really do appreciate this video
Thank you so helpful. I can't understand the preload until now. Btw I live on li and go to still well and bethpage state park
i see some guys say "I have a coil fork but im watching it" guys i dont have a fucking fork on my bike -_-
Guys, we have a winner here.
Wait, you don't have a fork on your bike?!?!
you must be good at wheelies
so.... are you using sporks?
He rides a unicycle
This is the best explanation of fork settings ive found so far. Just got a new fork with these knobs had no idea, I know understand them thank you so much.
Best suspension explanation on RUclips? Loved it!
I have a coil fork and want to upgrade to an air one, but I don't have 8 gazillion dollars. What do I do?
Y.S.M.2004 -MINECRAFT VLOGS AND MORE find one second hand that is well maintained
faster fork, slower shock works good for me on downhill. That way I dont get bucked as easily, and on steep stuff it slackens the angle.
vouch
Seth this is one of the most simple and comprehensive videos I've seen from basic suspension settings. Nice work ;)
I've been following this channel since 66000 subscribers and remember thinking at the time this guy is awesome. Every things explained so well and he has a real passion for his videos, not like some that just post to keep there income coming in. Thanks for all the great tutorials and info you've given us all, go Seth!
I knew pretty much all of this coming in but thought I'd watch cus i love your vids. I gotta say this has got to be one of the best you have done. Absolutely everything was covered in prefect detail but i didn't feel that any of it was dragging on and the visuals were excellent.
Great job Seth, that's why you're the king
lol i don't even have suspension i just like your videos
I like my suspension semi squishy and fast rebound :)
NinjaGamer 443 me too
I like it a little squishy
As i always say to anybody who ask me about suspension; playing with them is something really important thing if you're looking to grow like a rider for real. Excellent video Seth.
From age 7 to 25, i've been riding all types bicycles.
I had a certain amount of knowledge about repairing and unmounting but your videos made me discover more on todays bicycles, functions and hacks.
Thank you!
Hey Seth what's your opinion about rigid forks?
+Lucas Nogueira by far, the most reliable forks out there
nice video thank you
i love it when its return slowly
True, I've never heard anyone saying their rigid fork had issues with air leaks and other stuff like that.
I don't have that rubber band for the Sag. What can I do?
+iGorka 935 zip tie!
Zip Ties - 'Ultimate Seth's Multi Functional Item'
v1d300 loool😂😂
Seth's Bike Hacks Thanks!
iGorka 935 just remember to not leave The zip tie on since it can scratch your fork
Good job, one of the best and thorough videos on the subject I have seen.
Great video. Such clear and helpful explanations. The best bit is the guide for how to find the right settings.
I ride bmx so I'm like so confused rn lmao
Lol, why am I watching this video.....
My MTB dont even have suspension fork settings
Movie
@Lionel Ibarra
what?
Oh yeah yeah
Just got my first air shock. Nice quick overview so now I know how to go out and play with it a bit to see what suits me best. Well done.
Seth - loves these videos. Every one I watch is like school in session. Keep up the great work.
My rockshox have next to none of this
Chimmy Chaunga same, rockshox recon?
XTUB gt Nope, rockshox argyle
Chimmy Chaunga I have recons and I have none of the things he has except remote lockout
My shocks are dirtjump shock so i can't lock mine, all i have is rebound damping and a dial with 7 options which are soft as crap, softish, soft, good, hard, hardish, and hard as crap
the rebound adjustment on my 2006ish recon fork is located on the bottom of the right fork.
1dislike=1hater xd
darkness fallen dabbin on dem haters lol
What a very good presenter this young man is.
I didn't even know this was a thing... I've only been out on trails for probably a total of 12 times over two years, with real life and mental health getting in the way of going me really getting out there. Before this video I was waaaay too scared to even touch my fork, thinking I'd somehow break it, but after watching this I plan on dicking around with it when the snow goes away!
Thanks for all the great content, I'm still a complete novice at mountain biking but thanks to some of your videos I feel more confident in my ability to improve. :D
This is extremely helpful. I'm about to buy a full suspension and I knew almost none of this. I knew it had the different settings for climbing descending etc and knew I'd need to have to adjusted for my weight. But I didnt know you could dial it in like this.
Thank you Seth and Clint for simple explanation of how suspension settings work on MTB.
It’s fun to see your older videos. Still helpful!
Seth, thank you for properly referring to it as "damping" and not "dampening"!
im getting a new bike for my birthday which has all these fancy twisty things like the ones you have shown now i know what they are i can PROPERLY adjust them rather than just turning them and hoping for the best this video has really helped thanks :)
the practical test with XC is very good to understand the settings. good explanation! thanks!
Love your channel man. Was a mtb biker in late 2000’s. Lost it after then. Very informative and educational. I judge a lot of my purchases on your review’s.
I just rebuilt my fox 36 float today with new seals/oil and i still need to tune it! The seals had dried, then started leaking on me as i was riding. I thought i was gonna kill my poor 36.
This has been very useful. Thanks seth!
Hi seth, i have been binge watching all your videos idk why
Great vid. Your explanation is the most clear and concise I have heard.
Finally, a suspension set up video that actually makes sense. I'm no longer too scared to fiddle with the forks and probably add some spacers. I'm running the fork at 30% sag but it bottoms out on bigger hits and compresses just a bit too much to preload into jump transitions. Looking forward to the vid on the rear shock.
Hi seth this is ron from the philippines im always watching your blog and clint and your other friend with the mastash i forgot the name, i realy like the way you explaine everything in the bike and specialy you show the cons if first time on the bike or in the tricks etc. and i learn alot to you bcz the other bloger they show only the perfect trial or attemp they didnt show the failed attemp , you know what i mean ., and for that i realy look up to you coz you show and explaine everything and your voice is clearly hear you know i am filipino so most of the time when i here fast or too much accent i domt understand. Anyway thanks alot for the nice clear and giving a trueth and cons on bikes. Thanks seth your an idol!!!
And hope your understand my english hahaha thanks
Thank you for this thorough, informative, descriptive, and entertaining video.
Well done Seth. Super cool that you are linking up with Clint a Brian to do some of the viseos. Good job.
Thanks for making this video! It explained a lot to me. Up til now, my shocks have been a bit of a mystery.
Wow I like to learn simple short and sweet and find out more advanced details later. This really satisfied my needs!!!
Mtb newbie and new subscriber here, and this video is REALLY HELPFUL! Thanks!
I recently bought a dirt jumper from one of my school teachers and it has Fox Talas air forks on it. This helps so much! Big thanks Seth!!
John Bracher make sure you set sag ect on the biggest talas setting :) and with fox keep maintenance done well
Carbon cricket FX what do you mean on the biggest setting?
John Bracher with talas the longest travel option
Carbon cricket FX oh yeah thanks i have it on the biggest travel
Great explanation and a shout out to Clint.
I’ve been watching vids all night and this one, for some reason, just made it all make sense. Thanks for the outstanding video.
the best bike wshing video ever is made by clint
Great video - one of the very few that explain a complex topic well
Thanks for the only understandable explanation on utube, just got a 2016 process(kona) 153(not a dl) and have left the suspension untouched, cant wait to play around!
Nice one Seth, best explanation I've found on suspension settings. I just botched mine until it rode how I liked (running 2004 marzocchi drop offs with air pump adjustment) which basically means I only ever bottom out on the heaviest of hits.
I Didn't realise how unorthodox that was until someone I rode with commented on how 'pingy' it was. Barely any sag with fast compression/rebound, resulting in a very lively front end. I love popping random nollies all over the place and hit stair gaps/wall rides on my way back through the city, so find with the 'correct' amount of sag/rebound compression, the front is a little too slow and wallowy to ride aggressively.
100% THANKS!!!! For years, many years, I thought assumed fork settings was a marketing ploy, I have a set of Rock Sox SID that almost never move, but I never tripped, I love MTB's but I mainly ride on bike trails and ride in the city. I just think mountain bikes look so cool, so do many of my friends but I can't see them actually see many of them going out to the mountain outback to ride either.
Thanks, I learned something here!😃
Thank you for making such a clear, concise and easy to follow video!
I came here for information about my front suspension but I left here with a cool idea for a bike stand! Thanks!
Great video! Simple straight to the point. Thanks
The best video I've seen on fork settings.
Excellent, for the first time I have understood what the settings are for. Thanks a lot !
I've got a Marzocchi Bomber DJ3 on my Dirt Jump Bike and it's got air chambers on both sides. That's the only adjustable part of it, and despite it probably being a little soft for riding the pump track (energy absorption) I run it with no air pressure. The springs alone provide what feels like just the right amount of damping to me.
Awesome video, man! I am a roadie and always saw all this crazy adjustments on MTB forks which to me were a can of worms. Thanks for explaining it so well. I really liked the part about linear and progressive travel, and also volume spacers. Thanks for the knowledge!