In 1967 I bought a '63 split window with 340hp, and later that summer, I bought a '65 Corvette fuel injection unit, without the air cleaner, from a private party, for (believe it or not) $150. It was on an El Camino and seller started it up to show me that it worked . We removed it right then and there and shortly there after, I installed it in my '63 . I went to my local Chevy parts dealer to price the air cleaner and he was so shocked, he said. "OMG, it costs $75.00" !!! Needless to say, I passed on that, as $75. was like $500. now . The Fuelie worked pretty well, but was rather hard starting the car most of the time , and I ended up selling the set up about 6 months later . How I wish I had that now, and how I wish I still had my '63 now too !!!
When I was a kid my older brother had a 66. He use to let me drive it at 16 years old. I never thought I would ever own a corvette but I eventually did. I've got a 2002 C5. It is a great car. And it reminds me of my brother's C2. I miss not having a manual transmission but the car has so many great features. That C2 is still on my radar. I would like a small block 4 speed coupe with power steering. My brother's C5 didn't have power steering and it was a chore to drive it. But lots of street rods didn't have PS back then. I think my brother paid $1800 for it used. I paid $15k for my C5.
A original complete 1963-65 F.I. Aircleaner unit today is more like $4,000-6,000 if you could find one which you usually can't even if you wanted, as much of the time you can't find one to buy.
The Corvette Stingray is indeed a classic American sports car, one of my favorite!!! You did a great job reviewing this beauty Jay!!! Thanks for sharing this exciting video!!! 👍👍🙂
Thanks for watching I’m glad you did this episode there’s a comparison video later on tonight that’s going to premiere It’s an outside the box comparison and somebody else made this comparison back in the 60s beach boys comparison if your beach boys fan I’m sure you can figure it out
Thank you so much for that correction, for some reason I was thinking of Bendix electrojector which was in the 50s that was electronic fuel injection, and it was riddled with problems even tho I said Rochester lol
Jay, I think the vents in the pillar are exit vents for the flow-through ventilation. Also, I believe the switch marked "Headlights" was to be used when washing the car or to wash the headlights, and I don't think the headlights light up when switch is factory installed.
Great review...There are three pull vent cables under the dash the left and right are in foot wells the center one operates a cable and turns on a fan the is in the rear compartment that exits out the C-Pillar on only the drivers side. This feature was only on the 1964 and 65 Corvette. 1965 was also the first year to introduce 4 wheel disk brakes.
@@What.its.like. Weight looks about 500 lbs. too heavy for SBC 327 car... does that include driver, passenger, and test equipment? ... torque looks about 65 lb.-ft. too high at 800 RPMs too high for 250 HP engine... fuel injection was mechanical, not "electronic"... 4 bolt mains, not 4 main bearings, it has 5 main bearings... ALL the engines have 5 main bearings... hyper engines have 4 bolts holding each main bearing cap on...
those are factory wheel covers. The knock off wheels were not standard equipment The knock-off wheels were more expensive than the 396 cubic inch engine option. So it's not a huge surprise this fuelie doesn't have that option. Those wheels where 60% of the cost of the fuel injected engine: 322 dollars for the wheels, 538 for the fuelie engine.
"Forget about your Hemis and your GTOs I've got a new machine, and she really goes othin' can outrun my SS 396" That one is awesome. The fuel injection however is mechanical. There were a number of issues with the injection system if it wasn't matained or someone who didn't know worked on it. Many the time I've worked on a 327 - - -good memories.
1. Sting Ray or Mid Year, not C2 back in the day. 2 lights were operated by motors, not vacuum, that was 68-82 3. the knob closest to the door under the rotational light switch is for the vacuum air system of the cargo area on which the driver side gills blow hot air out of the car. The knob was 3 speed. You were right, those gills are functional. This was on 64 -65 coupes only and was before Astro-ventilation. Also behind the seats below the carpet panel are two buckets for tools and the car scissor jack. 4. under the car between the exhaust sits the spear tire tub. close so close!
@@What.its.like. - 08:55 ALL the engines have 5 main bearings but the 396 has 4 bolts holding the main bearing caps on instead of just 2 bolts like in the other engines...
I wish I fit in a Corvette, I'm too tall... I always put seat extension plates or cut and weld the seat mount to acccomadate my long legs. My Lebaron, Olds Toronado, 409 Chev, '57 Cadillac etc
How tall are you I’m 6 foot two and I fit in perfect.. my boss bought a lotus Europa and I had to get it and started my boss is a little bit bigger than me I’m like how the heck do you fit in the car because I’ve barely fit.. I wouldn’t be able to own that car it’s too small.. it’s too customized to do an episode on the engine was relocated to the front and it’s a Chevy Chevette engine.
Uh, oh. This was NOT Electronic Fuel Injection. This was mechanical fuel injection which operated like Bosch CIS K-Jetronic F.I. Bosch lays claim to the Rochester fuel injection, claiming that they developed it. All the fuel injectors sprayed fuel anytime there was fuel pressure. Like Bosch CIS, Rochester F.I. had an airflow mechanical sensor to regulate how much fuel was delivered to the fuel injectors. Correct, in 1982 the Corvette C3 had Cross-fire E.F.I. which continued into the 1985 model year. You could also get this E.F.I. in the Camaro. 1965 was the first year that Corvette had front disc brakes. The C3 added rear disc brakes. If you look at the ignition distributor, you will see that it has 2 auxiliary drives, one for the mechanical tach and the other for the fuel injection's high pressure fuel pump.
Thanks for the correction I thought I corrected them all but a few must have slipped through.. you’ll get a kick out of this one of the sources said it was direct fuel injected.. I know it was mechanical I don’t know why I said it was electronic.. probably because that’s what the sources said and I was reading it straight from A script that I made from the source.
@@What.its.like. Yep, a little too early for that, unless it was diesel. Then, in diesel passenger car engines, injection was considered indirect as fuel was injected into pre-chambers and glow plugs were used.
Yes I’m hoping to hit all of them we have A c8 I was thinking about comparing it to the c1 in an out of this world out of this box comparison just because most people don’t have both of them under the same roof compare how far Corvette has come I haven’t seen a C7 to do one but I will look for one =)
I just watched it there was one little part that I was speaking over myself because it didn’t edit right but it was sound the whole way through.. I like to watch them back to make sure that everything or most everything’s right it’s too hard to fix it after the fact anyway I have access to a desktop computer but I hate using the desktop computers anymore they’re so slow
@@What.its.like. actually I'm here for dental work, and I'm traveling on the cheap, so having a nice time, and it's impoverished, but the way I like it!
I had a 65 Vette soft top. Weird car as it was ermine white, white top, white interior (the dash and carpet was black). 327/250 horse with a 3 speed saginaw on the floor. Think that's weird ..... It had disk brakes, and the factory AM/FM radio. I had a love/hate relationship with the car. Decided to sell it after 9 months owning it. Much later in life, had a 65 El Camino that I made into a street rod. Was much more fun that the Corvette and easier to get in and out from!
I had a couple friends that had the Caprice. One was a '65 and the other a '66, Both with the 396 cubic inch. Pretty formidable cars both of them. Beautiful cars.
Here is where I get most of the specs from I guess this episode was before we did all that.. www.automobile-catalog.com/make/chevrolet_usa/corvette_c2/corvette_c2_coupe/1965.html www.conceptcarz.com/s217/chevrolet-corvette-c2.aspx
No one can explain to me why the Corvette coupe didn't continue the roof-pillar exhaust vent fan. In fact, there should have been one on each side - then you could ventilate the car on the move with the windows closed.
I can explain why the 66 didn't have it. It didn't really work as intended, it really wasn't that necessary, it wasn't very accessible for service, and removal of the feature simplified production on a car body that was supposed to cease production. The 1967 Corvette was supposed to be the first year of the 'mako shark' C3 body, 66 was supposed to be the last C2. No way were they re-introducing the vents for 67.
Back in the 60s and 70s, people expected their cars to start falling apart at 100,000 miles. Maybe not the Corvette, which had a higher skilled assembly line crew and the line moved much slower than a standard assembly line.
Panama would have worked too. Be still "me" heart @ 17:40. That NASA Blue makes this car even MORE "X" EEEE! That teak wheel and chrome + that "fat fiberglass" is how you got all of the weight! Even @ today's conversion price is cheaper than a new one. LOL! What will the current ones fetch 25 yrs. from now? Maybe we'll have those flying cars by then.
Thank you so much for watching we had three beach boys car episodes last of the three premiers tonight at seven this vs that shutdown 1962 Plymouth savoy vs 1965 corvette stingray
For a HALO car ..rather too many exposed screw heads in the interior..and deleting the division in the rear window I somehow thought you were being robbed ..it would have been cool if they could have made the glass with a little ridge to continue the character line without a stop.
@What.its.like. No biggie. Lots of info regarding the classic cars that we all love. Even though I know a lot of these facts, I sometimes suffer from brain fade! Unfortunately it's gotten worse as I've gotten older! 😉🤣
Thank you so much plus this was an early episode I didn’t know where to get information from.. We cover a lot of cars on this channel a lot of off the beaten path cars
The F.I. WAS NOT DESIGNED BY BOSCH-Its was designed by Arkus Duntov the head Corvette engineer, racer and legend. That switch is for the headlight buckets to flip up or down and they were NOT vacuum operated they each have an electrical motor ( know because I have rebuilt dozens of them-a tip put very little grease in on the gears or they will bind and operate too slowly) from 1963-1967. Went to the less reliable vacuum system in 1968. Both of those pulls under the dash are for vents LF one for left side and Rt one for passenger vent. + Conv's came with soft top only or for zero cost you could get a hardtop Conv top only car or (for $237 if my memory services me) both tops.This car has the optional teak wheel, but 60 years later who knows if it was added but considering its a fuel car I bet the owner paid for this option from the factory. Wrong again the side vents behind the side window ARE FUNCTIONAL-before you make anymore video's you should do some research, as these cars were proudly designed and made in America and many people poured their heart and souls into these cars so you should feel obligated to get it right.
Wow sorry i offended you I did a total of research clearly got the wrong information and since it was 2 years ago.. I had to go back and relisten it doesn't say anything about Bosch. It's a Rochester fuel injection unit and it's mechanical not electronic... that was my bad but you really need to work on addressing people in the comment section it's possible to correct someone without coming off as a total douche.. do better
Too easy - Unchained Van Halen
You got it =)
In 1967 I bought a '63 split window with 340hp, and later that summer, I bought a '65 Corvette fuel injection unit, without the air cleaner, from a private party, for (believe it or not) $150. It was on an El Camino and seller started it up to show me that it worked . We removed it right then and there and shortly there after, I installed it in my '63 . I went to my local Chevy parts dealer to price the air cleaner and he was so shocked, he said. "OMG, it costs $75.00" !!! Needless to say, I passed on that, as $75. was like $500. now . The Fuelie worked pretty well, but was rather hard starting the car most of the time , and I ended up selling the set up about 6 months later . How I wish I had that now, and how I wish I still had my '63 now too !!!
Awesome story thank you so much for sharing those memories =)
When I was a kid my older brother had a 66. He use to let me drive it at 16 years old. I never thought I would ever own a corvette but I eventually did. I've got a 2002 C5. It is a great car. And it reminds me of my brother's C2. I miss not having a manual transmission but the car has so many great features. That C2 is still on my radar. I would like a small block 4 speed coupe with power steering. My brother's C5 didn't have power steering and it was a chore to drive it. But lots of street rods didn't have PS back then. I think my brother paid $1800 for it used. I paid $15k for my C5.
A original complete 1963-65 F.I. Aircleaner unit today is more like $4,000-6,000 if you could find one which you usually can't even if you wanted, as much of the time you can't find one to buy.
The Corvette Stingray is indeed a classic American sports car, one of my favorite!!! You did a great job reviewing this beauty Jay!!! Thanks for sharing this exciting video!!! 👍👍🙂
Thanks for watching I’m glad you did this episode there’s a comparison video later on tonight that’s going to premiere It’s an outside the box comparison and somebody else made this comparison back in the 60s beach boys comparison if your beach boys fan I’m sure you can figure it out
@@What.its.like. I look forward to seeing your next video!!! 😁
The 375hp was mechanical fuel injection, not electronic
Thank you so much for that correction, for some reason I was thinking of Bendix electrojector which was in the 50s that was electronic fuel injection, and it was riddled with problems even tho I said Rochester lol
Thanks, we know.
That fuelie is the holy grail of 65 vettes!!! And 758 rear end of 4.56 for drag racing!!
Jay, I think the vents in the pillar are exit vents for the flow-through ventilation. Also, I believe the switch marked "Headlights" was to be used when washing the car or to wash the headlights, and I don't think the headlights light up when switch is factory installed.
Awesome information thank you so much for sharing =)
Great review...There are three pull vent cables under the dash the left and right are in foot wells the center one operates a cable and turns on a fan the is in the rear compartment that exits out the C-Pillar on only the drivers side. This feature was only on the 1964 and 65 Corvette. 1965 was also the first year to introduce 4 wheel disk brakes.
@@What.its.like. Weight looks about 500 lbs. too heavy for SBC 327 car... does that include driver, passenger, and test equipment? ... torque looks about 65 lb.-ft. too high at 800 RPMs too high for 250 HP engine... fuel injection was mechanical, not "electronic"... 4 bolt mains, not 4 main bearings, it has 5 main bearings... ALL the engines have 5 main bearings... hyper engines have 4 bolts holding each main bearing cap on...
Headlights are not vacuum operated, they have electric motors.
Thank you for that correction
Loved everything...except those wheels. The early 60s vettes were my favorites
those are factory wheel covers. The knock off wheels were not standard equipment The knock-off wheels were more expensive than the 396 cubic inch engine option. So it's not a huge surprise this fuelie doesn't have that option. Those wheels where 60% of the cost of the fuel injected engine: 322 dollars for the wheels, 538 for the fuelie engine.
"Forget about your Hemis and your GTOs I've got a new machine, and she really goes othin' can outrun my SS 396" That one is awesome. The fuel injection however is mechanical. There were a number of issues with the injection system if it wasn't matained or someone who didn't know worked on it. Many the time I've worked on a 327 - - -good memories.
Awesome story I would love to compare 396 to the 409 from what I’ve read the 396 was better in every way
Beautiful car, the color is fantastic!:🤩
1. Sting Ray or Mid Year, not C2 back in the day. 2 lights were operated by motors, not vacuum, that was 68-82
3. the knob closest to the door under the rotational light switch is for the vacuum air system of the cargo area on which the driver side gills blow hot air out of the car. The knob was 3 speed. You were right, those gills are functional. This was on 64 -65 coupes only and was before Astro-ventilation. Also behind the seats below the carpet panel are two buckets for tools and the car scissor jack. 4. under the car between the exhaust sits the spear tire tub. close so close!
Thank you so much for those corrections =)
@@What.its.like. - 08:55 ALL the engines have 5 main bearings but the 396 has 4 bolts holding the main bearing caps on instead of just 2 bolts like in the other engines...
I wish I fit in a Corvette, I'm too tall... I always put seat extension plates or cut and weld the seat mount to acccomadate my long legs. My Lebaron, Olds Toronado, 409 Chev, '57 Cadillac etc
How tall are you I’m 6 foot two and I fit in perfect.. my boss bought a lotus Europa and I had to get it and started my boss is a little bit bigger than me I’m like how the heck do you fit in the car because I’ve barely fit.. I wouldn’t be able to own that car it’s too small.. it’s too customized to do an episode on the engine was relocated to the front and it’s a Chevy Chevette engine.
@@What.its.like. I'm 6.0, and long legs!!!
@@CORVAIRWILD Hmm, I am 6'5" and fit comfortably in my 65 Roadster L79
I bought it in 1973
Is it yours
No it was at Jkgalleria
Do you still have?
Uh, oh. This was NOT Electronic Fuel Injection. This was mechanical fuel injection which operated like Bosch CIS K-Jetronic F.I. Bosch lays claim to the Rochester fuel injection, claiming that they developed it. All the fuel injectors sprayed fuel anytime there was fuel pressure. Like Bosch CIS, Rochester F.I. had an airflow mechanical sensor to regulate how much fuel was delivered to the fuel injectors.
Correct, in 1982 the Corvette C3 had Cross-fire E.F.I. which continued into the 1985 model year. You could also get this E.F.I. in the Camaro.
1965 was the first year that Corvette had front disc brakes. The C3 added rear disc brakes.
If you look at the ignition distributor, you will see that it has 2 auxiliary drives, one for the mechanical tach and the other for the fuel injection's high pressure fuel pump.
Thanks for the correction I thought I corrected them all but a few must have slipped through.. you’ll get a kick out of this one of the sources said it was direct fuel injected.. I know it was mechanical I don’t know why I said it was electronic.. probably because that’s what the sources said and I was reading it straight from A script that I made from the source.
@@What.its.like. - Might consider running your script past someone from back in the day before doing the video...
Source said direct injection I knew it wasn’t that lol
@@What.its.like. - They likely meant direct injection into a port rather than TBI...
@@What.its.like. Yep, a little too early for that, unless it was diesel. Then, in diesel passenger car engines, injection was considered indirect as fuel was injected into pre-chambers and glow plugs were used.
Will you be featuring the C7 descendant of this car on your channel?
Yes I’m hoping to hit all of them we have A c8 I was thinking about comparing it to the c1 in an out of this world out of this box comparison just because most people don’t have both of them under the same roof compare how far Corvette has come I haven’t seen a C7 to do one but I will look for one =)
The rochester fuel injection was vacuum not electronic
Thank you for that correction =)
@@What.its.like. the reason why it was discontinued it was a very expensive option around 500 dollars.
That Rochester fuel injection unit goes for $10,000 on eBay now
Jay, it was mechanical fuel injection not electronic
Thank you for that correction I’m sorry I put electronic fuel injection I thought I fixed it everywhere that I put it but evidently I didn’t.
No sound???
No sound where
@@What.its.like. I played video, is soundless. I played Lehto's Law, he plays fine
I just watched it there was one little part that I was speaking over myself because it didn’t edit right but it was sound the whole way through.. I like to watch them back to make sure that everything or most everything’s right it’s too hard to fix it after the fact anyway I have access to a desktop computer but I hate using the desktop computers anymore they’re so slow
@@CORVAIRWILD - May have to turn the sound on at the video...
This looks more like Marina Blue than Nassau Blue. Is it the lighting? Beautiful car regardless.
It’s definitely the lighting fluorescent lights will do that
1st view from Cabo San Lucas Mexico! Vacation!
Awesome you having fun on vacation=)
@@What.its.like. actually I'm here for dental work, and I'm traveling on the cheap, so having a nice time, and it's impoverished, but the way I like it!
I had a 65 Vette soft top. Weird car as it was ermine white, white top, white interior (the dash and carpet was black). 327/250 horse with a 3 speed saginaw on the floor. Think that's weird ..... It had disk brakes, and the factory AM/FM radio. I had a love/hate relationship with the car. Decided to sell it after 9 months owning it. Much later in life, had a 65 El Camino that I made into a street rod. Was much more fun that the Corvette and easier to get in and out from!
Awesome story =) thank you so much for sharing
Disc brakes were standard in 65 and believe you could get white seats and door panels with the dash and carpet in black, red or blue.
The song is Eye in the Sky by Alan Parsons
Yep =) love that song mysterious undertones
Engine output for torque is usually expressed as pound feet not foot pounds.
For decades it was foot pounds then about 10 or 15 years ago you hear pound feet. So take your pick but old school guys will say foot pounds.
95 corvette is my dream car
Sweet
@@What.its.like. do you still have it
I’m not sure I don’t work there anymore
@@What.its.like. oh you used to work there
I’m a Free lancer now I don’t work for any of these dealers
You forgot the caprice at the top of the chevy lineup in 65
Awesome thank you for that correction =)
I had a couple friends that had the Caprice. One was a '65 and the other a '66, Both with the 396 cubic inch. Pretty formidable cars both of them. Beautiful cars.
Sting Ray
Two words
And sorry if am bothering you but what are the specs
Here is where I get most of the specs from I guess this episode was before we did all that..
www.automobile-catalog.com/make/chevrolet_usa/corvette_c2/corvette_c2_coupe/1965.html
www.conceptcarz.com/s217/chevrolet-corvette-c2.aspx
@@What.its.like. ty
Is it yours
No
The best color on the best American car for 1965
I totally agree
No one can explain to me why the Corvette coupe didn't continue the roof-pillar exhaust vent fan. In fact, there should have been one on each side - then you could ventilate the car on the move with the windows closed.
Yeah I don’t know why that’s not a feature like in the 67 mustang fastback those vents are functional
I can explain why the 66 didn't have it. It didn't really work as intended, it really wasn't that necessary, it wasn't very accessible for service, and removal of the feature simplified production on a car body that was supposed to cease production. The 1967 Corvette was supposed to be the first year of the 'mako shark' C3 body, 66 was supposed to be the last C2. No way were they re-introducing the vents for 67.
$26,000 for a new Corvette? Where do I sign? No wonder people would buy a new car every year or every few years.
Cars were cheaper and built better.. and were made to be fixed
Back in the 60s and 70s, people expected their cars to start falling apart at 100,000 miles. Maybe not the Corvette, which had a higher skilled assembly line crew and the line moved much slower than a standard assembly line.
Panama would have worked too. Be still "me" heart @ 17:40. That NASA Blue makes this car even MORE "X" EEEE! That teak wheel and chrome + that "fat fiberglass" is how you got all of the weight! Even @ today's conversion price is cheaper than a new one. LOL! What will the current ones fetch 25 yrs. from now? Maybe we'll have those flying cars by then.
Flying cars idk will ever happen just think about it anyone that gets upset will program their flying car into that persons house
:)
Nassau blue
Okay....A show of hands of those who identified the Crosly Hotshot.....
Even that’s not the first it’s the first American car tho
Excellent!!
Thank you so much for watching we had three beach boys car episodes last of the three premiers tonight at seven this vs that shutdown 1962 Plymouth savoy vs 1965 corvette stingray
first year 4 wheel Disc Brakes cool as ice Shark Gills for Louvers. cool as ice Living in the years 63 - 65 Hey Look at the new vettes ********======
That should bring in a good 25,000 of course that would be at the high end
They sold that car for $125,000
Mechanical fuel injection.
Thank you for that correction
For a HALO car ..rather too many exposed screw heads in the interior..and deleting the division in the rear window I somehow thought you were being robbed ..it would have been cool if they could have made the glass with a little ridge to continue the character line without a stop.
=) I still corvettes are over rated this one is cool but over rated a Plymouth savoy 413 is faster and was almost half the price
@@What.its.like. A stretched Valiant was never going to look like a Corvette though😄
Cost
this is sick. my grandfather has this year of corvette and it has factory air conditioning which makes it a very uncommon car
Mechanical fuel injection in '65, not electronic.
Thank you for that correction
@What.its.like. No biggie. Lots of info regarding the classic cars that we all love. Even though I know a lot of these facts, I sometimes suffer from brain fade! Unfortunately it's gotten worse as I've gotten older! 😉🤣
We need to give Jay a break. He’s way too young to know everything there is to know about the mid year Corvettes.
Thank you so much plus this was an early episode I didn’t know where to get information from.. We cover a lot of cars on this channel a lot of off the beaten path cars
Sting Ray
2 words
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@@What.its.like.
Stingray came in 1969
The F.I. WAS NOT DESIGNED BY BOSCH-Its was designed by Arkus Duntov the head Corvette engineer, racer and legend. That switch is for the headlight buckets to flip up or down and they were NOT vacuum operated they each have an electrical motor ( know because I have rebuilt dozens of them-a tip put very little grease in on the gears or they will bind and operate too slowly) from 1963-1967. Went to the less reliable vacuum system in 1968. Both of those pulls under the dash are for vents LF one for left side and Rt one for passenger vent. + Conv's came with soft top only or for zero cost you could get a hardtop Conv top only car or (for $237 if my memory services me) both tops.This car has the optional teak wheel, but 60 years later who knows if it was added but considering its a fuel car I bet the owner paid for this option from the factory. Wrong again the side vents behind the side window ARE FUNCTIONAL-before you make anymore video's you should do some research, as these cars were proudly designed and made in America and many people poured their heart and souls into these cars so you should feel obligated to get it right.
Wow sorry i offended you I did a total of research clearly got the wrong information and since it was 2 years ago.. I had to go back and relisten it doesn't say anything about Bosch. It's a Rochester fuel injection unit and it's mechanical not electronic... that was my bad but you really need to work on addressing people in the comment section it's possible to correct someone without coming off as a total douche.. do better