Sage of Quay® - Mike Williams - The Beatles’ Rubber Soul Dilemma (Abridged - Apr 2024)
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- This video, 'The Beatles’ Rubber Soul Dilemma', is an abridged version of Mike's February 2024 presentation 'Rubber Soul - The Unofficial Narrative' 👉 • Sage of Quay® - Mike W...
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@earthsmoke9450 Haha. Boy, my video really got to you, huh? Relax. All is good 🙏 ruclips.net/user/livexAAaNiJ5PfY?si=hVYxFqWRzFWBs4NU
Mike, thanks for all the work you've done to help us see the truth about the Beatles. I grew up listening to them, was a big fan, I even belonged to their official fan club, and I started to play drums because of them. It's hard for many of us to embrace the truth as it's painful to hear, but I would rather know the truth in spite of the pain, than to cling desperately to a lie no matter how beautiful it was. Also, to see the big picture as to how we've all been lied to about so many things, not just the music industry. Thanks Mike, love your channel, all the best!
Trouble is whenever one mentions that it's possible they didn't write all their songs, or possibly not even the instrumental tracks, that it was all done in the background, out come the faithful pouring scorn on this view. We're weirdos and nutters et al, but as Mike has demonstrated many times, the official narrative is a probably a myth.
I express this view as a fan of the group for 60+ years, but as a grumpy old dude now, I'm a bit more cynical..
The official narrative is a myth. Tavistock not only created the Beatles but a cult as well. That's the reason for the triggered emotional response from the congregation.
Okay! You told me to come here. But first kindly enlighten me with the fake one’s full name, birthday (Month, day, and year), parents full names (maiden name of mother too), and I will begin researching. Don’t give me that it’s all “hidden” because I do genealogical research and am quite good at it. Thank you in advance.
@amj4 If you're quite good at it, then there are 297 videos with the entire backdrop presented. You can start there. Researchers conduct research themselves instead of requesting information from others and then 'investigate'. That's known as laziness. Furthermore, get familiar with the deep state (I have covered it many times in the 297 videos).
@@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel I would like to do some research to find out if this guy is real and not some made up person to fool people. I knew you wouldn’t even give me his full name and birthday since I might discover the guy, if real, is already deceased or not even real. I have seen a few of your videos and am not persuaded to believe this is true. Once you mentioned the “deep state,” I’m out, this all sounds like conspiracy theories to me. But good luck with your endeavor
@amj4 If you're interested in conducting research, start by reading Dr. Coleman's book on the Committee of 300 and Tavistock, as well as Daniel Estulin's book on Tavistock. Once you educate yourself and wake up to how the world really works, then come back. The channel is for critical thinkers, not sleepwalkers.
I learned Michelle on guitar and it’s very difficult and precise. The chord structure is complicated and intricate. I can’t even imagine writing a song like that and recording it in short order. The Beatles were limited as musicians and live performances show a huge difference from the recordings of the songs. Sloppy live performance and succinct and perfection on the recording of them.
Exactly. They didn't whip these songs up on the spot in the studio. Thanks for the comment.
And only in ONE TAKE?
Yeah, I skipped learning that one on guitar, rather difficult.
@@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel You’re probably correct and they didn’t “whip them up on the spot”. As a singer songwriter myself of some 40-odd years, I know a wee bit about how songs are written and how they progress from bare bones to gradually becoming more complex. Also, I have about 6-8 cassettes all of Beatles studio bootlegs and outtakes from home recordings and there’s like 10 different versions of some songs, each one slightly different to the rest as the song progresses.
edit: I’m not denying what Tavistock was all about, and I’ve been researching things like the committee of 300 etc etc LONG before there was an internet to do it on. But c’mon, this little echo chamber is ridiculous.
Do you reckon Bach was a Tavistock creation too……I mean, if complicated and intricate chord structures are the hallmark of Tavistock then surely……..
I think there needs to be some more investigation when the beetles broke up and Billy went off and wrote his own self named album and it was a full flop, how can that happen from half of the greatest song writer team in the world 🤔
Right. He was forced to prove himself again to his overlords.
@@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel I'm thinking they cut him loose cause he left the Beetles and all he had was maybe I'm amazed, which was recorded under George and not released, the rest he had a shot himself and failed, so that was embarrassing to his minders, so they picked him up and got Wings organised for him.
Can't believe I never wondered this before.
Bingo
Thanks for posting this. My guess is the same as Mike's answer. I've always questioned his oversized ambition after his Rift with Lennon.
Your research is astounding, Mike. I've been watching your videos for years, and I've learned so much from you. It all totally fits the time line. I can easily accept they didn't write their own music. I watched The Monkey's TV show every week as a kid. Davey Jones even admitted the Beatles were a manufactured band like The Monkey's were. I really enjoyed this video! 😊 Happy Easter to you & your loved ones ❤
Nailed, rather apt for an Easter show.
Thank you. In hindsight I only gave them my energy until 1967. Sgt Pepper left me cold of course now I know why. Well paid hypocrites.
I’ve never like Pepper. It’s a dreary album.
I liked a few songs after '66, but even as a kid I didn't like the change that I perceived in their song structures. Never could have guessed what really happened.
Truth always hides in plain sight.
Always love your videos! Right on point as always❤
Thank you so much!!
When bio Paul says that they aren't very good musicisns.... I just think about how good Billy has been
Same. Billy is a trained musician. But I love bio Paul more.
The Cheatles
can't argue those wonderful vocals......
@@PaulFormentos
Paul was a good singer. John sang with emotion but wasn’t that good. Same for George. And Ringo is a clown.
John had a great voice far more feeling and edge than Paul or Billy
Mike, you’re the TRUE star of RUclips! xoxo The Clarences
Hey Mike. Can’t wait to watch this later. Thank you!
Enjoy
Amazing presentation,
as always!!!!
Thanks for everything you do!!!
My pleasure!
Thanks Mike!
I must admit it, at this point just the sight of Billy fills me with disgust. 🤮
None worse than what my eyed were subjected to yesterday. Billy in a swimming pool or the sea, just emerging from underwater. His lanky hair hanging all over his face. He looked demonic.
@@shonabeggs4640
He looked that way because he is that way. Demonic indeed
4 years ago today. wow! damn time flies.
Very well presented, Mike, even I understood the date process on first watch. Thanks also for the end video of how the actual records were made. I always thought they started out as cut out from flat/sheets of vinyl.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Mike I think this version was well worth it. Your coverage of the recording process along with the production run was laser sharp and seems like an even bigger "no brainer" than your longer version. Thank you!
This is the 'See Spot Run' version to help those who have been indoctrinated break through 60 years of brainwashing.
Wow, you sure nailed it. This video is painstakingly detailed, meticulously and methodically put together in a logical timeline. You would make an excellent trial lawyer, Mike!
Mike is incredible
Need to include and highlight, AS A SEPERATE ACTIVITY - after final MIXDOWN to mono or stereo Tape Machine : The 'Mastering' Process. This is critical to ensure all the songs have a 'global' sonic flavour and perceived loudness. (back in the day : compression, EQ, limiting/leveling). This is time consuming and eats further into the NARRATIVE time line! Splendid, forensic work, Mike. ❤❤
Yes, absolutely correct. Maybe in another video. It's hard enough getting people to break through the conditioning on the writing, learning, reheaarsing, arranging and recording process.
chatgpt summary: Considering these estimates, the entire mastering process for a 14-song album in the 1960s could typically range from a few days to a week or more,
A lot of logic and reasoning here that can’t be refuted. Outstanding research!
what makes you think that a group who recorded the majority of their first album (Please please me) in ONE DAY, would take 30 days to do only vocals???
So you believe the story that they recorded 10 out of the 14 songs for PPM in one day? 🙄 Good grief. PPM is also a lie. Start here: The Beatles Conspiracy 101 ruclips.net/video/1DdfSl3LO5Q/видео.html
Hi Mike, another masterpiece in are awaken mindset your research to these presentations are truly amazing hope the eyes are getting better thanks again Keith and Christopher Carrot 🥕🥕🥕🥕eating Scous ers
Thanks again for the education..wow, the lies never end.
Billy rewriting history again.
Fact is they weren't good musicians. They were actors playing musicians.
So why would it be so unbelievable to see bio Paul's as just another actor taking his place. I believe they're called understudys.
Great 🥂
Yes .Adequate seems to be a self disparaging word to describe their great songs but listen to some of their throwaway material that sound totally formulaic and lesser covers and you can see what he means. When I used to buy albums and cassettes and then cds to a lesser degree it was rather disappointing to spend my hard earned money on all kinds of different bands that would mostly be 75% filler junk. You’d occasionally find those gems that were full of classics but those were few and far between. Then it degenerated to record companies releasing single CDs then NOW that’s what I call music collections and now they don’t even try ANYTHING. We were always looking for the next Beatles but that never came to pass. I guess we are stuck with this sad state of affairs! I love guitar music still and always will.
Thanks Mike how the grand baby doing!?
Doing well! And, we have another on the way 😊
Congratulations. My daughters married in their 30s so I waited a long time to be a granny.I have two grandsons 10 years and the other is 7 months. Happy for your news about a new baby.
I luv critics who still buy the phony official narrative then criticize the reality when it hurts their feelings. 😉
The indoctrination has been profound after 60+ years of brainwashing. Fans are unaware that they are part of a cult with a cult mindset.
@@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel I wonder what makes us different? Why do we see the forrest through the trees and yet many still don't or won't? Could it be the old time human insecurity of "go along to get along"?
The human mind is malleable, Lou. A constant bombardment of lies, deception, trauma, etc. can lead to the programmed belief in anything. Tavistock's technique involves making the adult mind think like a child. This is why when they released the Now and Then video, it was like an episode from Sesame Street.
@@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel Agreed. However we all fell for this in our childhood and shaped us adults I agree. However some of us still had our third eye (pineal gland) to see above it. I guess? believe me Mike, JL was my all time childhood/early adult years hero.
@@louiscalabrese9945 I must be one of the odd ones Louis. I've never bought into the "official" story of pretty much anything. We can be led down blind alleys chasing our tails but generally I think we've been lied to our entire lives...
When British people say they say not very good musicians they are being humble, c'mon listen to those harmonies, their playing, their energy & stage presence. Give credit where its due, clearly you do not understand the English temperament.
I clearly recognize comments from the indoctrinated. Now, watch the entire presentation instead of becoming triggered 15 minutes into the video and leaving a comment to reinforce your conditioned belief system.
As I’ve said, just coming up with the hook to Day Tripper had to take some time. That’s one of the best guitar hooks in history. So, they just pulled that out of their asses on the spur of the moment?
Fans will say that John and Paul are making music in their heads all the time and that Paul said those things about the batch of songs to look super cool, like, yeah, we have a week to write a new album! Great! About the process of the sleeve, label, vinyl cut, etc. they will say: Duh! It’s the Beatles! Of course the companies are going to please them working way way faster than usual!
Mike, I think the Stones had songs written for them also. Jagger and Richard’s first song they wrote together is said to be As Tears Go By. Does that sound like a song they would write?
The Stones were also created by Tavistock. The Beatles were the good boys and the Rolling Stones were the bad boys, both of whom were bookends.
@@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel but I don’t hear anyone saying the Stones had songs written for them.
@@JerryMungoThere’s an opportunity for you.
The FABricated Four.
dang
The musicianship on RS is sloppy to say the very least. It's unlikely that studio musicians would play that way.
No, it's not 🙄 Norwegian Wood? Girl? In My Life? If I Needed Someone? Regardless, that lads did not write the songs for the album or play on the recorded tracks.
The musicianship is top notch: Nowhere Man, In My Life, Girl.
Where does your information about manufacturing timings come from?
In the 1960s the EMI pressing factory employed c14,000 people with in-house printing. They could have easily pressed the first copies in time.
In the presentation, I made it clear where my information came from. The first copies could not be printed in time if sequencing was done on November 16th and the record needed to be in retail by December 3rd. The drying time for ink alone took a week. It was not possible.
This is good and interesting work - however, I still think it's more likely they did it! That doesn't invalidate your research, it just highlights that the Beatles were most likely "in the zone" for the years they were together, had an unwritten work ethic that was as based on fear and 'just doing it' (I have been in bands and artistic groups that produce little and others where it just flows) and not having any outside influence able to 'slow them down'. I hear the musicianship throughout their career and hear 'them' not session musicians. But ultimately the valid questions you pose are "was it possible?" and the crazy timetables and schedules literally seem to come apart at this point (the Rubber Soul sessions) but it IS possible - Let It Be shows you that, and in 1965 the palette ofmusical choices were thankfully (for them) more limited and they 'seem to be' a unit dedicated to churning it out when their backs were to the wall - it seems crazy but its possible and for me, more likely. The interviews you use to aid your narrative need to be questioned with the same veracity that we question the actual narrative - exaggerations, tired answers, etc. Scepticism is good overall, its valid and good work - BUT it IS still possible. I think the trauma of 6-8 hour gigs in Hamburg was the Beatles schooling, both artistically, in terms of bloody-mindedness (Lennon's rejection of outside writers for example), preparedness to be tough and 'get on with it in the face of squalor and lets face it, bad planning - and to be extremely quick in tune in getting songs out there (tougher a few years later, as I said, once the form of their work expanded).
The Rubber Soul timetable was not possible. To believe it was is rationalizing. Let It Be proved what they were not capable of. They were supposed to write, rehearse, and record 14 new songs in 2.5 weeks, and do two live shows that would segue into a TV special (Billy's commentary at the beginning of the presentation admits that it was impossible.). After 30 days, they played 5 songs on a rooftop to no one, and released a grainy, uninspired movie. They couldn't do it in 1969 and they didn't do it in 1965.
Good grief. You didn’t have the patience even to watch & listen.
Mike’s “big presentation” is over four hours elapsed once edited. Imagine the effort involved in creating it?
Please honour that effort with a proportionate effort in evaluation. You’ve not done so. Not as of your comment. Thanks.
Three people can keep a secret when two are dead.
And many more when they are in the brotherhood.
Four can keep a secret when three are gone.
Hundreds know the truth, including large numbers in the music business.
I play devil's advocate. So what if they didn't write and record their own songs. As long as they sang and played the songs while touring the screaming fans didn't care. The number 2 group at the time, The Supremes, only added the vocals to the songs written and played for them in a recording studio. Fans didn't care how it was done so long as their faces were on the album covers and they performed the songs live. Sames goes to the Beatles. The fans just wanted to see them on TV or live on stage and hear their voices on records.
It's important to think in a wider and deeper way. They were a massive Tavistock psychological operation to social engineer the world, helping to fundamentally change the morals, beliefs, and values of society and culture. Start here 👉 Did The Beatles Write All Their Own Music? Part 1: tinyurl.com/bde8t475 and Part 2: tinyurl.com/2w58w9hv
@@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel I agree with you on that. I am wondering was getting President Kennedy out of the way first was part of it. Their records were being played over here in America in 63 with little fanfare. Dick Clark had introduced their song the teenagers in his show circa August of 63 even showing a picture of them but received chuckles and low reviews. George Harrison made a trip to America in August of 63 to visit his sister in Benton Illinois even playing singing a Hank Ballard song with a local VFW band at a hall in Benton with tge encouraging of his sister. George then visited NYC. He was then a nobody with long hair to Americans in 63 but that changed only 5 months later
The Beatles on Rubber Soul were like The Beach Boys on Pet Sounds: Here! Learn the song! Now sing! Actually Rubber Soul “inspired” Pet Sounds.
When Paul died , John and Paul had All Ready a large collection of songs , enough to put out quite a few more Albums ' enough to keep the band going for many moor years, so they agreed to keep the band going, They just had to replace Paul with a very good dubel ...
I recommend waiting to comment until after watching the presentation.
Sorry man, you're wrong. They worked well under pressure, but when allowed to indulge themselves they did-- hence the White album. Pretty sure they wrote all the time, and didn't other times. When faced with a deadline, they scrambled to shore up snippets they'd worked on in the previous weeks, and whipped things into shape on the studio floor. Creative people often work that way.
Don't be sorry. Watch the presentation which you clearly did not do.
Great quote mate!
How many hits have you written?
I luv sofa critics who never experienced anything.
jimmy is fully vaxed and wears 3 masks.
@@Junctionist
Probably true, sadly
Sorry man, they were the New Kids on the Bloke of the 60s.
Even the harmonies they sang as teenagers marked them out as very good musicians. Not to say others may not have been involved up to Revolver. I like your show Mike, but I feel you do yourself a disservice when slowing the voices down, it’s unnecessary. Peace
Slowing down the audio is very effective. Take it from a retired master hypnotherapist (me). I know what I'm doing. After they released Revolver and toured, they did not play any tracks from the album. Why is that? Because they did not know how to play the songs, they were not taught. It's time for people to come to terms with reality. Peace.
Paperback Writer recorded during those sessions was played, and not very well@@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel
@user-fu2mi1nd5l Paperback Writer was allegedly recorded during the Revolver sessions, but it was not included on the album. They played nothing from the album when they toured afterward.
That is so weird, not a freaking song from Revolver. From Rubber Soul they played Nowhere Man, a good one, but no In My Life? Day Tripper, good! If I Needed Someone??
@@tt-du6vcNot weird when it’s understood that they didn’t write the songs & never learned them. George and Ringo presumably knew them like we did. From the record in the shops.
Here's the thing you got travistock that created the Beatles and the rolling stones you got look out mountain that created the doors and the birds all coming out in 1963 64 at the same time got the same look both rock bands both ain't war what's the odds
Tavistock"
Byrds*
The doors formed in 1965, not 1963/64
They looked nothing like the byrds
They were not particularly "antiwar" apart from the unknown soldier
The byrds were folk pop, the doors were hard blues rock, so not even "both rock bands"
A much more interesting connection is between the Beatles, Byrds and monkees given that they were all popular (not all "rock") bands of the 60s named after animals with the animal name misspelt, that surely ties them all together.
@@VeganFlatEarth
Good catch, thanks
@@timetowakeup6302bearing in mind as well that there was also the band The Animals (not misspelt) whose signature song "house of the rising sun" was released june 1964, same time as the worldwide beatlemania was taking off. The symbolism of " house of the rising sun" is obvious. Cleary the band The Animals having a hit of that name at that time was a nod to how the manufactured "animal" bands named above were to help usher in this new age of horus/ra . Also consider that another word for animal is "beast"; the animals leader was Mr eric Burdon, thus they were literally the beasts of burdon (burden) but here beast refers to antichrist. Thus all the "animal" bands were antichrists. And moreover they are all predicated thus in contradiction to another animal band name, the Crickets, the last of the pre anti-c bands.
Imagine you're right... so what?
I mean, apart from anything else, what difference does it make at this point (almost 60 years after the fact)? I can't fault the rigour with which you've researched your topic and your presentation (as a presentation) is very compelling, but you must realise that nothing you have said (literally nothing) will diminish the value of those tracks, for me and millions (billions even) of others.
The thing is, in the end, the music is everything.
I respect the effort you've expended, Mike, but it does feel like you've just wasted your own time.
Your comment exemplifies the profane mindset. You don't comprehend the big picture at all. Your comment shows a lack of understanding, which is the reason why the world is upside down and the controllers have humanity by the balls. Please go hang out on another channel.
So what?? Do you like living in a fantasy world or in reality?
Mike isn’t trying to diminish anything except lies.
The huge lie is that The Beatles were this nearly superhuman group.
Not only were they nothing of the kind, but they were used to socially engineer the society in which we now live. Not on their own, but definitely an important part of the change.
Paul's remark that The Beatles were not very good musicians is facetious. Between 1960-1966 The Beatles played around 1400 live shows, an average of 200 per year. This is fact not speculation. Any band with those numbers can't help but be great musicians by the end of it, a tight unit locked in to each other's personalities and musical abilities.
The best songwriters have fragments of music running round their heads constantly: guitar riffs, chord progressions, melodies, harmonies, lyrics, etc, a creative backlog of raw materials. For many, the process of songwriting consists of stitching together these fragments in a coherent order. Having a working partner with a similar aesthetic definitely helps. John Lennon may have had the Day Tripper riff filed away in his head for years, just waiting for the right lyrics and chords to hang it on.
I've known musicians who can compose a song in 5 or 10 minutes, teach it to their bandmates and have the finished product on tape within an hour. It's really not that uncommon if you're surrounded by sympathetic players. Ask Neil Young.
The Beatles wrote and recorded 16 songs in one month with a deadline looming? Yes, absolutely. Four a week? Easily.
With all due respect, you're replaying the fairy tale talking points and you have no idea what you're talking about. Either familiarize yourself with the research or hang out here: www.youtube.com/@TheBeatles
Wow, incredible Beatles insight