The Decline of Britain's FAILED Hitler
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The story of Oswold Mosley is one of idealism turned nihilism, britain's failed dictator carries a legacy to this day.
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Have you ever heard about the Smethwick Election 1964? It follows from the decline of Moseley, and a massive stain on Tory history that they'd like to forget.
Might be one for the ideas board 🤔
Keep up the good work on these social studies 👍
Mosley was nothing like Hitler other than both being fascists, what a stupid title.
This video is the first time I've heard Moseley speaking. I just realised who the model was, voice wise, for Harry Enfield's Mr Cholmondeley Warner and Grayson.
Why do you conflate communism with fascism so much? They're polar opposites, fascist economic policy was where thatcher got her ideas, they believed in mass privatization and deregulation of the economy--heck, they invented it.
Should really fact check this stuff before posting. It's very incorrect😅
Why do you act like communism is somehow similar to what the Italians and Germans did? They are objectively polar opposites, the thatchers economic policy came from the Italians, they literally invented mass privatization and deregulation--the polar opposite of communism.
Do some basic fact checking next time 😂
Interestingly, Mussolini warned Mosely against copying the fascist formula, saying that it did not match the British character and would be unpopular.
Weirdly accurate
Anytime a radical ideology reaches a country it tailors itself to wppeal to its citizens.
Yeah he was a technocrat, calling himself a fascist is like trump calling himself a communist
@@ultimatestuff7111What are you even saying? Mosley was most definitely a fascist he's probably the most well written english speaking fascist of all time.
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@@ultimatestuff7111
Well Trump isn’t either of those
No wonder he failed his moustache was too wide
Charlie Chaplin did not give look alike of him a minor roll in The Great Dictator (1940) even. 😊
Honestly it’s a shame that style of moustache is now solely associated with H man. I know and honestly really like it from the tintin comics and I know when I was small I always wanted to have a nice little moustache like that. Then I learned of H man. And now I kinda still want one but I can’t for the live of me get one now.
@@AspiLeo My grand father's Morocan neybor had a GS mustach.
@@AspiLeo It was very common until the end of WW2, I’ve seen many non- Nazis in Britain, the Soviet Union, America, Bulgaria, Romania etc. with the same Moustache
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
People underestimate exactly how he popular this guy was Britain tries to pretend he was a fringe politician
Largest political rally ever held was the BUF.
And the methods to silence him were quite similar too: media black-out and slander.
@@GazalAlShaqab and imprisonment.
@@FrankLucas-pw5hs Funny how Communists claim to represent the working class but the working class want fuck all to do with them. Good example - the Hard Hat Riots in NYC, 1970. Middle-class students felt the wrath of construction worker's unions, who were angered by all the flag-burning, jeering of veterans and cheerleading for Communist regimes.
Got a source for that?
Fun fact: Mosley’s son Max would go on to become the president of the FIA - the governing body for Forumla 1
and was a founding member of the MARCH Grand Prix team
another fun fact: Max Mosley got caught in a scandal about having a Nazi-themed "party"
@@darth_autie_117 And enjoyed Nazi-themed BDSM paid services.
Heavily into S&M as well. Naughty, naughty boy.
@@Drew.P.Todger A joke at the time: "what's the difference between Max Mosley and Robert Mugabe?".................... "Max Mosley admits when he's beaten"
25:47 -Hitler did not rise to power through a military coup
after the death of president Von Hindenburg on the 2nd of august 1934, Hitler (who was already chancellor) combined the powers of the president and chancellor into one position: the fuhrer.
He essentially declared himself dictator
So.... A political coup then
@@K_j_M Indeed the more seats they won, the more power the Nazi Party had to influence the Reistag by instigating walkouts and thus handicapping the ability of parliament to conduct business. Hindenburg was compelled to appoint Hitler as Chancellor. The ensuing machinations led to the rise of Hitler as the Fuhrer. A perfect political coup.
He was voted in.
he became chancelor through his presence of thugs, and making sure only a fraction of the whole council was present at the time
and the rest knowing very well what were to happen if they didnt allow him to seize power.
i'm not into slave morality, i know power is everything
but (or should i say BECAUSE of that) we must be honest with ourselves and not warp history.
pretty hard to learn from the past if you are not willing to look at it.
@@jim-es8qk He wasn't, the nazi parliamentary group strongarmed Hindenburg into appointing him as chancellor. Sure they were the biggest single party in parliament, but they were by far a minority.
Oswold mosely lived on the same road as my grandparents, they said he was a nice and quiet man whenever they spoke to him.
Look at videos of him in the past there is plenty out there and those videos demonstrate the left lied about him, they lied about him a lot.
It’s like when people find out their elderly neighbour was a notorious serial killer and cannot believe it. People can be very good at wearing different masks for different people.
@@nicolelake5848 I think this goes to the heart of a major weakness of much of the population.
As endless voxpops and polls have shown, plenty of people in 2019 voted for the Conservatives essentially as a means of voting for Johnson.
And the reason many gave? Because, to them (and, as an aside, I'd say this is a pretty damning indictment of their tastes), he seemed 'fun' and 'entertaining'.
The way he appeared completely blinded them to any kind of objective appraisal of a man who had demonstrated that, in so many ways, he was entirely unfit to be an MP, let alone a minister or, as we sadly learned the hard way, Prime Minister.
@@nicolelake5848 London is minority English... why is this a good thing?
@@mattfm101 Please explain your question, and why you asked me that question.
Things have never changed in Britain. The working man has always been fucked over by the government for all their rich friends.
Happens everywhere
@@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044 that’s the truth
why do you think his party got insta banned the moment it became popular and all its members forcefully conscripted into the infantry?? such peoples movements are the most scariest thing in their eyes,to this day.
It’s called capitalism.
@@temple69no it’s not it’s called democracy which is a scam 😂
Technically he's the failed British Mussolini not Hitler. Mosley was openly hostile toward Nazism. It's actually the primary reason the British Union of Fascists and Imperial Fascist League were in open hostility toward each other. Mosley's movement was modeled off Italian Fascism while the Fascist League modeled itself off the Nazis.
why was he hostile towards nazism?
And much like the Italian fascists, not antisemitcal.
@@karlik4861 He did not follow their beleifs. Especially racial supeirioty crap. Mosley was more a culutral "racist" as in wanting the immigrants to assimilate.
Splitters!
@@michaelhurley3171 By that Logic Fascism is in turn a Splinter of Marxism. Mussolini used to be a Marxist. Hitler was a member of the Communist Party in Munich for a time, and was known to visit the Socialist hotspot Cafe Central in Vienna regularly.
All members of the Socialist Family tree, ever branching into different variations of itself. As a result every variation points to the other proclaiming them as "Not True Socialist." Hitler said it in his first book. Marx accused socialist before him of not being Socialist. Lenin proclaimed no one before him had ever understood Marx, which by defacto means they were not real socialist.
That being said. Hitler never considered himself or his movement as "Fascist." He did view them as Sibling Ideologies, but not the same ideology. Ironically it was people outside of Italy and Germany who viewed them as the same ideology, mostly because the outward facade/veneer of militarism shared between them. But lets be blunt. Marxist also love their militarism once they have an established Socialist State, and love paradiing it around.
I looked after a gentleman, nursing home, who claimed to be one of Moseleys bodyguards back in the 30s. He joined the Royal Navy when his country called. I asked him how he felt fighting against the Reich being a proud Fascist himself, he replied he was a British Fascist not a German one and he fought for Britain. He was on minesweepers and had three sunk under him and couldn't swim. I suggested they may have found him expendable, he agreed. Died of liver cancer three weeks after I nursed him, lovely bloke.
Hitler was a German nationalist not a white nationalist he even had allied to China and later Japan instead
ermm i hate to be rude but any person who claims to be a fascist is not a "lovely bloke." unless this guy repented of being a fascist soon after the war, he was not a nice guy :|
@@gizurrr964 Don’t shit talk the dead, the man served his country and helped take down fascists, he put put his nation before himself and his views and so redeemed himself.
@@gizurrr964 Stop being childish
@sn0wt1ger a bit projection-y don't you think?
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wtf is this subsection?
you got a poster of him hanging up in your new-build yet, deano?
What do you give the man who has everything?
A signed photo of yourself, refuse to elaborate and walk away.
Classic
Sort of thing Trump would do.
@@briantitchener4829 try not to bring American politics into everything, read what they said and appreciate it.
@@HeydenHarvey The similarity was too apparent. Sorry.
GIGA CHAD
@@briantitchener4829just stop
he failed being a dictator so now he's gonna be an artist
😂😂😂
I don't think he was long sighted I can't even remember wat I am but it's the same as the painter from looking at his artwork
I did see the banana man
Are you saying hitler succeeded as a dictator?
@@bawdysasquatch8846 he did actually become dictator...
Fascism - Bri'ish edition™
Oi is that a lil bri’ish mu’sache (cuz hitler had a lil mustache)
You live under fascism right now
Apparently you think you are free 😂😊
@@Chadsolderbrotherbrad1111If you don't mind me asking but where do you think the commenter lives do you know the commenters current location if not then that is one big baseless accusation
@@Chadsolderbrotherbrad1111 bold of you to assume the individual lives in an ultra-nationalistic, authoritarian autocracy
@@Chadsolderbrotherbrad1111😂😂😂 one of those "buhu I'm repressed" ultra over privileged idiots raised on propaganda that thinks everything that goes against their ideas is facism and every fact against them is "propaganda"😂😂😂
All that Mosley really cared about is shared interests; traditions, culture, symbolism and history.
Hitler did not rise to power through a military coup. He was appointed Chancellor by the President of Germany just as the Weimar constitution demanded. He party was the largest party but did not have a full majority in the Reichstag so the people didn't want him by and large. The military detested him. Even Hindenburg detested the Bohemian corporal. However, a conservative coalition led by von Papen convinced the President to support Hitler because the conservatives could control him. Actually there were only 3 Nazis in Hitler's cabinet. I don't know where this military coup story comes from.
Mussolini marched on Rome to cease power
Hitler, as you said, was elected after successive failing democratic governments, during a national crisis
Probably mixing it up with the failed Beer Hall Putsch.
Night of the long knives
Night of the long knives was not a coup d‘Etat but the elimination of certain party leadership. None of the government was murdered. Hitler was constitutionally appointed as Chancellor
@@SenpaimustNoticeThe Night of the Long Knives was something completely different. It happened after Hitler had cane to power and was used to purge the leadership of the SA
Oswald Mosley,
The man who's been lied about over and over again.
even the title of this video managed to do it.
@@stoveone4031how so?
@@Daniel-ll2cl mosley wasn't like hitler at all, in terms of personality, personal background, speaking style etc. there were groups that split off from mosleys group that broke off because they were explicit national socialists where as mosley was a british fascist.
@@Daniel-ll2clthe people in these comments are just trolls/actual fascists who want to make Moseley look better. Even if Moseley was more inspired off of Mussolini’s fascism to Hitler’s, they were still very similar and Mosley strongly supported Hitler’s Nazi regime for a large period
Stinks of fash in this thread
aw man, good thing we didn't back that guy... with all that honor... and national pride... and us not fighting in ww2... and self sufficiency... and no migrants... ... we uh... dodged that bullet?
lol facts
Your ignorance is an insult to collective human intelligence. 🙄
Found the fascist ^
As my great grandad once told me ‘battle of cable street was more funny than scary, tomatoes were cheap’
It's also a total myth
@@longiusaescius2537which part? And how so?
@@BlueTyphoon2017 'the Battle of Cable Street actually bolstered BUF membership and support.
"The ‘Observer’ newspaper commented (7/3/1937): ‘the size of their vote was a surprise even to those in touch with the East end’. The ‘Guardian’ (5/3/1937) called it ‘a surprising indication of strength’. Even the communist ‘Daily Worker’ (5/3/1937) admitted: ‘a disturbing feature is the large number of votes they recorded’. In the November 1937 Borough Elections British Union candidates moved up into second place in Limehouse putting a Tory/Liberal coalition bottom of the poll. The ‘Daily Worker’ noted (3/11/1937) : ‘For the whole of Stepney the fascist vote was 19%, an overall increase’." (This is in response to around 23% of Limehouse voting for the BUF, had the Handicap of only heads of households voting not been present, it's estimated that he would've gotten around 50% of the vote)
East London remained the Blackshirt heartland. At his very last appearance in the district on May Day 1940 Mosley addressed a friendly crowd well in excess of 100,000 at Victoria Park Square.
Extracts from Special Branch Police documents held at the National Archives report the following :-
“The general cry is that the entire population of East London had risen against Mosley and had declared that he and his followers ‘should not pass’, and that they did not pass ‘owing to the solid front presented by the workers of East London’. This statement is, however, far from reflecting accurately the state of affairs.” - Special Branch Police Report, November 1936, The National Archives ref: MEPOL2/3043
Special Branch reported in MEPOL/3043: "‘There is abundant evidence that the Fascist movement has been steadily gaining in many parts of East London and has strong support in Stepney, Shoreditch, Bethnal Green, Hackney and Bow…the British Union conducted the most successful series of meetings since the beginning of the Movement…crowds estimated at several thousands of people assembled and accorded the speakers an enthusiastic reception…In contrast much opposition has been displayed at meetings held by the Communists…Briefly, a definite pro-fascist feeling has manifested itself throughout the districts mentioned since 4th October…it is reliably reported that the London membership has been increased by 2,000.’"'
@@BlueTyphoon2017 The myth is that the BUF fought with the police and never passed. The reality is that Mosley followed an order from Sir Philip Game to stand his men down, and that the police then went on to fight with the protestors. The BUF actually increased support in the area after this event.
another one? wow, there must've been about 6 million future grandfathers at cable street
Mosley was reputed to have actually disliked Hitler and the dislike was said to be mutual . The Nazis were also thought to want someone a bit different to Mosley to lead Britain when they had conquered it as they believed they were about to do. It could be argued that Mosley and his later political organization ,the BUF with its blackshirt dress code, looked more like Mussolini's Italian Fascists than Hitler's NSDAP . A question is still asked that if Mosley had become Prime Minister -could a deal have been done with Hitler to avoid WW2 ?
So copied Hitler's biggest fan boy and Still was a terrible person
@@consensus688 fairly sure Shitler was Mussolini’s fanboy - the latter literally wrote the book on fascism
You've got your history backwards, Mussolini was in power almost a decade before hitler
Nazi germany never wanted to conquer Britain ? Literally never was said by Hitler
@@samlagos2192hmmm idk mate try Operation 'Sealion’
The Daily Mail editorialists and owners are still upset their man never quite made it. They love to print the same kind of crap today as they did during this time. The only thing that's changed is the target of their hate and date.
Same kind of crap,
True stories that don't fit your narrative of an ideal world . . . .
@@JungleJeffarnold No. The Mail constantly lie about things, they just literally make shit up to fit their narriative. They've been caught doing it time and time again.
@@JungleJeffarnold If you think the Daily Mail only prints true stories then you're beyond saving 🐑
You are highly delusional
delulu comment
Do you just love these wealthy guys who make it their lives 'talking' to the working class?
dude was a gritted veteran of the first world war,he sat in those trenches with whatever class was mobilized with him. don't you just love it when your blind modern lens of fanaticism blinds how the world really worked back then?
@jayzandstra1830 So did Hitler and Mussolini. If you want to talk about fanaticism, all you have to look for is the effect of ultra-nationalism on young, impressionable soldiers; an scourging ideology that brought on a War that destroyed the lives of so many young people...but not Oswald Mosley.
@@Libertyjack1 I don't think you can call any of them grifters. All three of them put there lives of the line for there beliefs. Mosley remained a fascist until the 70s even when he had basically no following and had a couple interviews (that are on youtube).
@ordinaryrat It was his legacy. He did the Nixonian thing, stuck up to his guns, with the hope that people will forget the past. Unfortunately, far too often, this proves to be true. Especially when pandering to the forces of wealth and against egalitarianism. The right has been kicking the dead horse of Bolshevism for the past 40 years, and that stale subject keeps rousing people who weren't even born then. Go figure!
@@jayzandstra1830 Just exactly how did the world work back then? Please let me know. I always love to hear from people who know how things work! It makes me feel so humble.
Mosly didn't do a 'Nazi salute'. He did a 'Roman salute'. Hint: The Roman Empire came before Hitler.
I suggested this on the discord! Glad to finally hear all the details!
Thanks for the suggestion! was honestly so interesting to learn about
Yuri Bezmonov next
@@JimmyTheGiant fact check better next time, the Germans and Italians are nothing like communists, thatcher is far more similar than Stalin 😂🤦
you're not hearing any of the details that this moron is spouting. calling him a "failed hitler" is blatant disrespect towards his true character and ideals. he very openly opposed the idea of dictatorship in britain.
@@JimmyTheGiant you learned nothing and then proceeded to spout a load of BS. pathetic really
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Oswald Mosley
Yet another banger. Hated History growing up. Now I love hearing about the past and trying to learn from it. Your channel is absolutely fantastic mate
Appreciate that
We never appreciate it when we're younger...plus school takes the life out of things a bit.
Yes, but take EVERYTHING you see here with a grain of salt, and do your OWN research.
@@Richard-f7q ignore this guy he's just messaging everyone with supportive comments at this point
For the love of god, don't use RUclips for education, nor Wikipedia.
He actually predicted the reality of Britain with immigration
But then again, this would not last for long, this whole fascist dream would eventually crumble with one thing, coexistence*.
*well, if we can actually learn to get along with the foreign minorities and they might soon learn to embrace British culture. And as a British white born-Muslim, I always love Britain and its culture whilst doing my religious duties to God in personal life.
@@Sebastian-kx4nu "well, if we can actually learn to get along with the foreign minorities and they might soon learn to embrace British culture." yeah no, when they first arrived in Europe everyone was on bored with it because nobody wanted to be called a notzee, everybody welcomed migrants around 2015 and 2016. Then you would start to see on the news about how Berlin would have record number rapes and violent crimes but that was all overshadowed by the migration in Sweden. a mostly peaceful country with few crime devolved cesspools of crime over the course of 12 months and every single one of those crime ridden areas were locations that housed newly arrived migrants. You don't "get along" with Islam or the people Islam brings. do not trust a word out of their mouths as they permit a lie in the name of jihad. but considering your already a "British white born-Muslim" im sure their lies have already filled your head. If you want to be backwards and barbaric so bad go do that in the middle east. leave civilization as you obv want to part in it
No he didn’t you muppet, you’re thinking of the rivers of blood speech, which was Enoch Powell.
@@Sebastian-kx4nu Oh so its the British peoples fault that migrants are killing children?
That was a very interesting take on Mosley. I see that you dislike strongly his ideas as the 1930’s progressed, but your humane look at him as a damaged war veteran, and shunned politician, was very insightful. Thanks for a great review.
Although he blantaly lies by calling Mosley an antisemite.
He wasn’t born a facist he was made one by the trenches
Excuse me?
No one’s born a fascist
@@achithemlike Hitler he’s saying
From Hannah Arendt she explains this phenomenon. The idea that something better can arise from fraternity in violence is an illusion. Many fascist criminals were never prosecuted. Italy never had a war crimes tribunal. Spain gave asylum to many of them and the Catholic Church helped many escape Europe. These dictatorships will always be overthrown. Sic Semper Tyrranis.
No wars don't turn you into a fascist lol
Mossley wanted to preserve the empire. Instead Brittan went in to a unnecessary war which killed millions, lost the empire, made sure Sovjetunion won and are slowly today becoming an minority in their own country. At least they don't speak German.
Damn. I didn't know that the Soviet Union, which everyone hated, but saw the Germans as the more immediate threat, won against the British and Americans... /sarcasm
Also, considering that Hitler would've invaded England eventually anyways, it's clear that they had to get involved.
how was a pro-irish pacifist going to preserve the empire
@@ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460 AH wasn't interested in invading England and attempted to make peace with them a bunch of times. He was interested in gaining territory in the east.
@@ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460 ''Also, considering that Hitler would've invaded England eventually anyways, it's clear that they had to get involved.'
He wouldn't, in mein kampf Hitler suggested that Britain would be a worthy equal as long as they shed their jewish influence
I'm anti-war but can we bury our hand in the sand while one country takes over our entire home continent? You can't, we had to intervene so you can't take note of the Soviet Union's power post-war without acknowledging Germany's aggressive expansionism first.
He was fascist not a nazi.
Nazism is a sect of fascism
@@aidanvogt6177 : Wrong. National Socialism and Fascism were two fundamentally different 3rd position ideologies.
To Oversimplified: Nazis are more racists
@@mailman5043who cares?
You shouldn't be here, if you think nobody cares. History needs to be cared for and misconceptions need to be adressed. @rufst
To get an idea of this video's factuality level, search "1937 uk election".
He also didn't even mention the actually real 1935 election, or the fact that the 1931 election was dominated by a de facto uniparty "national government" as it called itself, which had formed in august 1931.
And don't forget Hitlers rise to power through a...military coup?
Pop history where whatever you pump out on RUclips must be true. The dawn on the dumbest and most manipulated generation is upon us.
It’s so disappointing to have a professionally edited and an otherwise entertaining video marred by stupid mistakes that discredit the entire video, just carelessness. I was piqued when he said Hitler came to power through a military coupe. Have to take everything with a grain of salt and can’t just enjoy the narrative
The thought of giving someone a picture of yourself as a gift to basically just some acquaintance is literally so hilarious to me
Lucky the cities of England are now still english right?
righ?
Oy Vey
free movement of subjects was literally the deal Britain struck with her former colonies to retain privileged trading rights.
@@mueezadam8438
What was the number on the movement of people that was agreed?
@@tonygange7636 it is limited to business and education. This ‘new’ wave of ‘migration’ is the result of the US invading several regions (Afghan, Libya, etc) which the former British Empire had made asylum promises to. Despite being a NATO member, the UK wasn’t given enough time to prepare for the sheer volume of refugees the conflict caused. Probably was the beginning of Britain’s disillusionment with international partnerships like the EU being able to accommodate her interests, given how wide her relations and holdings spread.
@@mueezadam8438
No it isn't, there's plenty of safe Muslim countries who don't accept those fleeing into their country for obvious reasons.
The EU opened the borders to N Africa, Eritreans make up a huge number of migrants who the UK didn't invade, along with Sweden,Ireland, Netherlands , Germany etc who didn't invade nobody but have to take a certain number that hasn't been specified.
Calling him "british hitler" shows that you do not know anything about him
See I thought that too at first but then I remembered this is RUclips catchy titles are a necessity and you can just tell by this guy that he doesn’t really think that
@@ThemoonsFullofgoons-qn9xl yeah, me too. Like, i saw the title and though: "he wasnt britain's "hitler", him and mosley had nothing in common"
@@donotdisturb275 exactly in fact Mussolini’s fascism and Mosleys fascism had more in common than hitlers did with Mussolini’s
Straight sub. Superb done video. The jokes, the anecdotes, the different perspectives, the editing with the interview of this guy. Well effing done!
Calling him ‘Hitler’ is tarnishing his reputation.
His terrible reputation already precedes him.
To antiwhite racists, yes.
Oswald Mosley was more of a wannabe Mussolini than a wannabe Hit-ler.
thought it was gonna be an actual history video, turns out its just pop history nonsense from someone who can't even cite sources properly, and the sources he attempts to cite is just other pop history youtubers. Like come on, TIK history? really? are you seriously citing TIK history?
I found this video v interesting who would u recommend for actual history?
@@luimac3374i would read mosleys book as it outlined what the british fascist party wanted.
Mate you're on RUclips, go to a library and research yourself if you're going to be so dismissive and rude
@@PhilosophyofElivagar How dare he expect a modicum of decent history from someone making a 30 minute long history video!
@@TheMightofDab There literally is decent history, maybe don’t fully rely on one source, let alone a RUclips video. To pretend this video is entirely useless is dramatic at best
hot take Mosley wasn't evil
aint a hot take.
True though, Darjeeling
Failed? He held the LARGEST political rally ever in the U.K.
OK...he still failed.
@@Courageous91Because the government shut down his party not because he lacked support
@@xxgaming_generation_2156 just like today, government is not allowing the parties they dislike like with the AfD
@@Courageous91 He would won, if nazism didn't exist
Fascism is a snake that eats itself. He would've failed regardless of the Nazis.
Finally, a video on current UK politics
Thanks for tackling the subject, it's important to evaluate as many historical examples of bad ideas rising to better prepare to stand against it in the future.
calling him a failed Hitler is a bit of a stretch especially when the guy was heavily antiwar .
Wait till you hear about Churchill 😂
The Duke Of London
@@SuperGreatSphinxhe was also a sellout and oversaw horrific crimes
He wouldn’t dare mention Churchill 🤣🤔
I am disappoint that you didn't mention how Jim Carrey, playing as Doctor Robotnik in the first Sonic The Hedgehog movie, looked like Oswald Mosley.
uk would not be a shit hole if he was chosen like it is today... uk would have been a utopia
Mosley is the kind of guy that could have been saved. He wasn't driven by pure hate like Hitler or will to power like Stalin, his heart was in the right place for a longtime, until it wasn't. Kind of sad honestly.
Stalin wasn’t driven by a hunger for power, he tried to step down multiple times.
Bro, if you learn about how things actually went down, trust me it'd explain SO much of what's wrong today.
Whites going from 97% to 36% of the population in London in 40 years was no accident, same with every major white city across the world, whites being discriminated against for jobs in their own countries and in their own media is no accident.
Believe me, we're in the dark timeline
@@Snaxolotl71can you tell me more I'd be most interested, thanks
I’ll add… fascism was very working class in Mosleys era. Many who identify as democratic socialists in 2024 would have identified as fascists in the 1930s. The anti Jewish connotations of fascism didn’t always exist. Originally fascism was an attempt to answer the question “now that we’ve killed god, what will fill that god shaped hole” to which fascism answered “the state”. Mosleys antisemitism only became a thing later on in his career, and what comes to mind there is that certain groups in certain eras and places can become awful. Being against Jews is awful and wrong. Being against the ultra right wing Jews currently leading the Israeli government, who are enacting genocide, that is a group that does deserve to be shunned. Not
Based on their Jewishness but based on their values, and they just happen to all be Jews.
In Mosleys life, he saw insanely wealthy bankers and elites cause WWI, which severely traumatized him. Because Jews have been barred from the regular labour force in various places and eras of history, there is a legitimate connection between Jews and banking. Banking was one of the only ways to earn income available to Jews at points in history. WWI and the Great Depression were in part caused by corrupt bankers, a population made up of more Jews than existed in the general British population. So SOME of Mosleys anti Jewish speech is more to do with him wanting the banks to be regulated and the working class to no longer suffer the wars and crashes caused by elites.
Mosley has a complicated legacy. As much I adore pesky blinders and love their mosley character it should not be mistaken as a historically accurate portrayal.
The question of “we’ve killed god, what now will fill that god shaped hole” is an important and valid one, and the neoliberalism which came to
Fill that hole is likely not better than if it had been the state.
Mosley definitely had some views i consider clearly racist. Racism IMO
Was not one of his major motivations, and who knows if he had become PM, and regulated the banks, and avoided WWII… I don’t know if the world we live in today would be better or worse. But I do know that self righteous hatred of a charicature of Mosley doesn’t do any good
@@Snaxolotl71 The ice picks in the brains of his rivals would disagree.
the man was imprisoned (without trial) and only let out when his health seriously deteriorated. He advocated for nothing else but peace.
SWEDEN ?? fascist?? Or just ignorant
The true, ugly face of "our democracy".
He advocated for becoming friends with Hitler
Same as ol' square moustache.
The villains won, and told the future to hate those who tried to save them.
There's a reason whites are minorities in their cities across the world, and it's only accelerating
Britain's last chance to save itself.
waaaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaaaah keep crying
A man like this in power is what England needed. Considering the climate today.
Fun fact, Max Rufus Mosley, former President of the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile and founder of March Engineering F1 Team is his son.
he’s also dead
There is a bit more nuance here. Mosley fascism was anti-colonialism and anti-war (believed that the British Isles should become fully self-sustainable before venturing outward) and like Mussolini only sided with Hitler because of circumstance. Both him and Mussolini disliked Hitler and his ideology before the war. Still a good video though.
Why is he getting married at Magda Goebbles' house if he hates the nazis?
National speragatism back stabbed their own SA base and murdered the Austrian Fascists, Mussolini and Mosely had plenty of good reasons not to trust Hitler.
He was not an anti colonialist in the 1930 his economic program included completely outlawing India's manufacturing sector and forcing Indians to only buy British manufacturing products.
After the second world war he called for a single European state who would control Africa and treat simply as one massive raw materials colony.
@@algernonsidney8746 Mosley's plan was to essentially establish 100% autarky (no trade with the outside world) for Britain which was his method of making the people 'strong' (instead of war like Mussolini or Hitler). This obviously would of failed, but regardless I don't think he would do this to India since he wouldn't want to trade anyways. Depending on which part of the 30s you are referring to your statement could be accurate.
He basically went around every side of the political spectrum before he came to the conclusion that every other party would keep the elites in power and he believed that fascism was the only way for the common people to fight back.
@@ordinaryrat "Mosley's plan was to essentially establish 100% autarky (no trade with the outside world) for Britain which was his method of making the people 'strong' (instead of war like Mussolini or Hitler). This obviously would have failed, but regardless I don't think he would do this to India since he wouldn't want to trade anyways." Mosley did not want to end trade with the outside world, he wanted to keep trading with the rest of the British Empire, albeit on the terms that I mentioned in my previous comment.
"he came to the conclusion that every other party would keep the elites in power and he believed that fascism was the only way for the common people to fight back." Mosley did not set up his new party because he was an anti elitist. He did not advocate for the public ownership of the economy, he did not advocate for transferring businesses to its employees. He set up his new party because he was frustrated that he could not get his way in the labor party and did not have the patience that other labor members like Attlee did to wait for their time to come.
Sad that everything happening now in Britain was warned about by Mosley.
Regarding the Irish, thats so interesting. Even if it was for optics. The Irish were being evicted, mostly in lenster. There's photographs form the 19 10-20s of people who have barricaded themselves inside their houses and the police would come in through the roof or burn the house to force them out. Families in towns made makeshift shelters of blankets and rural families built into hills or out of the ruins of their homes. It was cruel!
And we didn't really win our independence in 1916 either. It was all a sham.
@@sandrashane677 Trust me you would know if you didn't
@@brad5426 We're still paying ground rent to the crown. The rising was infiltrated by the little hat people.
It's crazy most politicians start from being a normal somebody to such powerful people who think they're doing right. Especially dictators, they have paranoia because they're aware of their actions but continue to do it which leads to their downfall.
Fun fact: calling WWI the 'first world war' while it was happening isn't a mistake in documentaries. It was dubbed the 'first' world war at the time already as journalists and politicians of the time (of course being sensationalistic as always) already recognized the likelihood of future world wars.
*Takes a single look at modern day Britain*
“Hans are we the baddies?”
Fun fact, Nazi salutes weren’t Nazi salutes they were just fascist salutes invented by Italy in the 20s
They called them Nazi salutes since Nazi Germany was more popular than Italy
What I just though it was some character Peaky Blinders made up, welp time to go pull an all-nighter.
Peaky Blinders, as much as I loved it, really did a character assassination on Mosley and the way that he was portrayed in the show is not accurate and is overexaggerated.
@sn0wt1ger Oh look a Nazi is complaining a show was mean to their Nazi hero.
Cry about it.
Peaky Blinders swapped Churchill and Mosley completely
That leads mi to this video. Thanks Tommy. 😅
@@Geordie_Boy01 you muppet
Sorry mosley your nightmare came true. All the people in the world are being ground up into nameless, history-less grey masses for the international clique to rule over. They cheer as it happens even in this very comment section right now, eager to see through the never-ending misery they have experienced since birth to the end as they have known nothing else.
Big lad posts about people becoming a nameless grey mass from a sock puppet account lmao
@@heinzmonster Every account is a "sock puppet" account unless your name, DoB and government ID is attached to it... Let me guess, your government wants to do that and you're supportive of it aren't you?
@@heinzmonster
That doesn’t make what he’s saying any less true.
@@RestitutorEuropaAnd in fascism? People die in nameless meat grinders or disappear under "interesting" circumstances.
@@heinzmonster heinz monster over here calling dudes big lad lmao
28:53 wrong take, his pro-EU state is perfectly normally for him. he was always a state believer, the state has the responsibility to its citizen so why wouldn't he join the biggest state with more cooperation ?
His pro-EU ideas weren't about the nature of the state, it was all geopolitics. He (in my opinion, correctly), believed the only way Europe could remain independent and relevant into the future was to unite, and he eventually advocated for an actual European superstate rather than just a loose political union as a way to challenge and balance the USA and USSR. He explained this in his autobiography. However I think he probably would have had problems with the actual way the EU is being run in the modern day, but likely would never have gone so far as to support Brexit.
He literally said it was surprising given the state of modern right wing politics you dunce
Europeism =/= europeanism
31:04 Yeah, that's a recurring pattern, I think. Disillusioned romanticism seems to be the driving force behind a lot of ultimately authoritarian movements.
That's just the propaganda they want you to believe. Like sparkles and glitter on a turd.
I left a comment stating he was no Hitler and had it removed as hate speech.
The best prime minister we never had. Many political scientists agree his economic reforms he proposed would have greatly prevented the massive damage that the great depression brought on britain.
Do you have a link to his economic reforms?
@@ImperialKnight86 No. She just loves him because she's a racist and wants Britain white even though most immigrants have made Britain a great country.
And though you mock, it's about to happen again. Because you don't listen to desperate people.
Small point: Hitler did not come to power through a military coup. He was voted Chancellor, and was then granted emergency powers by legislative action. It all happened democratically. This should scare you.
He was granted emergency powers because he scared hindenburg into giving it to him, there was no actual emergency
It doesn’t scare me. Austrian painter was right about a lot of things. The progressives/comms scare me
WOKISM PROGRESSIVES scares me … not the fictional boogeyman you conjure
@@angelozachos8777 It's been a long time since I've seen a RUclips comment this "edgy". Thank you for bringing laughter back into my life.
Bro wanted a united ireland, a man of the people
Posted 2 minutes ago and people are already saying it’s a great video 😂 how do you know ?
watched it at 50x speed
Skip to the end and get the general feel of it… 🤷♂️
We see the future.
@@fullmetaltheorist we marched on.
my secret is out. I click like sometimes in the first minute. I admire your detective skills unearthing this improper use of the like button
Down wid th youff Jimmy!
Cool revised history with mockney narration.
"England lives and marches on" That shi is oce cold
WE LIVE IN A PERIOD🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
In which politicians are not very popular
Bro we even tried to colonise hitler
He was not the UK's Hitler. That is so dishonest. He had nothing against the jews but was pro British. As long as people were loyal to the UK as it should be then it should be fine.
Shut up
You tend to have a really immature and nuance void view on Mosley, he wasn't anti-war to support Hitler, he was anti-war because he was against Britain being involved in wars that wouldn't serve us. Post WW2 Churchill sold out our entire empire, pushed Britain into a war killing hundreds of thousands, and for what?
I recommend watching content from a channel called Zoomer Historian as he has done extensive research on these topics and he puts half of what you have said to rest without a direct response.
Also the Corn law crisis was done by benjamin disraeli who attended the conference of Berlin did the zulu wars and was pushing for the creation of Israel funded the already dying ottomans bribed by rothschilds to purchase the suez canal which would obviously cause a lot of wars
In reality, the Americans were more dangerous to the British Empire than the Germans. I'm not saying that wasn't the best option, just saying they had the intention of dismantling it. Lend-lease was a joke, and the Americans did virtually nothing in the war until they were attacked.
you just unironically recommended zoomer historian
@@illuminaticake4528 what's wrong with that?
@@Joebilly15684 search "The WORST channel? Zoomer Historian DEBUNKED by facts and logic (reupload)"
You can watch this decline in peaky blinders
Mosley was absolutely correct. Just IMAGINE how much better off England would be if they had stayed OUT of World War 2! England locked away Mosley and went to war... and what happened? Their empire fell apart, and they became a debtor to their former American colonies! The pound lost it's world role, to be replaced by the U.S. dollar. As for anti-semitism charges, I think ANYONE who has their meeting attacked by any group would have a negative opinion of that group. England really messed up by NOT listening to Mosley. Mosley NEVER gave up. Even after the war, he wanted the U.S. OUT of Europe and a cooperation between the nations of Europe for the common defense. ONE NATION, EUROPE! Again, no one listened and what did we get? Most recently, that absolutely unnecessary Ukraine-Russia conflict. Congratulations, England! YOU SCREWED UP, and now you are lost forever!!!
Found a fascist. Do you have Oswald Mosley on google alert?
@@imposs-up1hg Yet... you did not argue one of my points in your childish reply.
@@imposs-up1hg
Why do you cowards never address the consequences of your dumb ideas?
@imposs-up1hg Religious claim, try factual ones
@@imposs-up1hg Found a Jew.
He kinda looks like Mussolini and Hitler combined in some photos
Romanticising working in the fields at least makes more sense than romaticising working in the mines though, you've got to admit that at least.
Oswald Gamer Mosley 🔥
I love watching people clash over Mosley. Many truly despise him, others love him. Unbelievably enigmatic character. Its also interesting to see how much he pushed to stop WW2, since he served in WW1 and lost all his friends. The way he was imprisoned for being a threat to the British narrative, only allowed out to be vilified from the lost war. Very curious situation..
London now is minority british
Actually White British people are still the biggest ethnic group in London so they aren't a minority group at all.
@@rickdingenenzo You are talking about White British people remaining a plurality. Which is true. But you are dead wrong in saying White Brits are not a minority because as over 50% of London's population is not White British, White British IS a minority in London.
me understanding the difference between majority and plurality :D
@@JamesL42 oh okay, I didn't know that thanks for telling me
@GoralischeSS yeah JamesL42 already explained to me White British people are not the majority of the population, but thanks for correcting me again.
Britain’s last true hope
Sir, please take a bath.
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Many such cases
@Julius064 Spineless
@aidanvogt6177 he's not a mirpur man in Rotherham though ?
Britler
Just wanted to say that your explanation on how Communism and Fascism work was fantastic. Brief, accurate and easy to understand. Great job, subscribed :)
Two incredible videos in two days. Love them both!!
Goballs??????? Never once heard anyone call Goebbels, goballs
Go go gadget
Mosley wasn’t feared. By and large, people thought he was a joke (see Roderick Spode in the Jeeves and Wooster books).
That’s definitely not true, you’re confusing post war Mosley with early 30’s Mosley.
The last few minutes are what scare me. News and information travelled comparatively slowly in the past (it gave a little of time to reflect and respond). Nowadays any event will be jumped on by 'iideologues'' who want to push a narrative and you get three or four versions of what has actually occurred. So many people exist in a comfortable bubble of safety and conformity that critical thinking is frowned upon. Hence, dismiss as conspiracy theories or ad hominem the enemy. Trust the experts! 🤫
He resembles Begbie from Trainspotting who was also Hitler in another movie.
Robert Carlyle.
Adolf Hitler Was a Guest at Oswald Mosleys Second Marriage Wedding
Mosley: *banned from the BBC*
Also Mosley: *makes TruffSocial*
Mostly Mosley
Casual Slander of Mosley, especially when none of the problems Britain has would still exist if he wasn't imprisoned for trying to avoid a world war... except the economic crisis, idk if anybody can solve that in Britain.
He was no hero
@DisforDelight neither was Churchill
I only thought he was the final villain in Peaky Blinders 😂
Oswald was a gamer.
Imagine calling someone who talks about decolonisation and never mentions war or expansion in his speeches a "failed Hitler"
Is he wrong? Didn’t Mosely parade the fact he was inspired by the Axis as well as being a fascist?
@@Delilah-zd3em He is very much wrong.
Mosley starts criticising Hitler as soon as the war starts.
You should listen to his speeches, all the flak Mosley gets is because he called himself a fascist (which is just an economic model).
@@Delilah-zd3em What Axis? Mosley started his movement before Hitler even got into power, much less the axis being a thing.
"Britain's FAILED Hitler" implies the austrian one succeded
fun fact when i wasreading about fascism, nazism and fascism differ , nazism comes from fascism. however fascism is a economical theory where as nazism is a race thwory that used the fascist economy. or as theycalso call it "fascio" . maybe wont interst many peoplw but yeah
most people doesn't care. They just think, that all fascists are racist nazis, because media told them that
Did you have a stroke while typing that?
@@jdools4744 was typing fast and i was tired........
@@123skillax Oh, well to critique you Fascism and National Socialism are not solely economic or racial theories but all encompassing ideology’s with strong social and economic doctrines
@@jdools4744 cry
Just stumbled on your video and I love the humor in this lol. Especially the part where everybody was suffering during the Great Depression except the rich and powerful. "Don't worry about them." 🤣
Mate ,
I think your even handed, genuine and honest handling of this subject is commendable. I've seen this in other videos of yours and I salute you (not a nazi salute!!!).
I get the impression you try to see many sides of the issue in your videos, I sense little allegiance to a party line, but to your own integrity and analysis
Thumbs up, keep on going bud