@@Manofsteel1701-f4r I'm sure it's the Academy's pride that they'd never give a nod to a "comic book movie." But it's a travesty. They did such a profoundly good job - Dafne as well as the other two.
@@mr_mix2365 I don’t think for performances. I think it was for other categories but those two and like another comment said Dafne were breathtaking in this movie
What Laura yells to him when she first speaks is also pretty heartbreaking, in a sense. She says “you expect me to talk to you when you just mistreat me, just yell at me, just try to ditch me?!” In other words she knows full well who he is and his treatment hurt her feelings to the point where she just refused to talk to him. A child giving her dad the silent treatment.
@@calvinjohnstone2664 Yeap... "No pretendas que hable contigo si me insultas, si me gritas, si me intentas dejar tirada. Tu pretendes que hable contigo?"
It's a shame they didn't use the take where she drops a c-bomb on him: Dafne Keen requested permission from Mangold to improvise on a couple takes of various scenes, and the truck scene was one of them. After one of them, Jackman took Daf's mother aside to apologize for having been screaming obscenities in her face. Her mother just waved him off and told him it was ok, because Daf just called him a c*nt.
Imagine being 11 years old having to act with Hugh Jackman & Patrick Stewart giving 110% and being so good the movie is legendary because of what you add to it...
Not just acting but martial arts and stunt work too. I'm sure most of that was a double, but it's still damn near the toughest casting choice possible.
I feel like we should be talking abt Dafne Keen in the same way Natalie Portman was after "Leon". Not comparing them per se, but just in the sense that they were not "older actors playing significantly younger", as on teen dramas like "90210" and "Riverdale", but they were actual children holding their own against established actors in films that dealt with extremely violent and mature situations, and they never felt false or out of place, like the director had to shoot "around" them and then make up for it in editing. I hope Dafne Keen has a long and illustrious career ahead of her, much like Natalie Portman's (if that's what she wants.)
@@soxxel12 Yeah she was given a big task and she knocked it out the park. Her appearance in Deadpool too was so well acted - she wasn't on screen long but she delivered so much in those few moments.
And then imagine that's the peak of your career, and the only thing anyone knows you from is a brief cameo in another comic book movie. It'd be like winning the World Series your rookie season, and then never again.
48:25 "Oh, she can't fight him! She's too little, she's too little." Laura: Proceeds to give X-24 the beating of his life and then fires the shot that ends him.
I wouldn't say it was a beating. She unlike Logan had an active Healing Factor but after one slap to the face she was put down. Her getting the shot on X-24 was only possible cause he was distracted. Had X-24 focused mainly on killing her she would have lost.
@@neekZDI quite likely. unlike Logan and X-24, Laura only has adamantum bonded to her claws. This makes her healing factor slightly stronger than Logan's was at his prime (after the bonding process) but leaves her much more vulnerable to killing blows, especially ones delivered by adamantum blades that can cut through a small body like a hot knife through butter.
@@GreyhawkTheAngry That's what I keep telling people. Everyone thinks her entire skeleton is bonded in Adamantium but it's only her claws. So yeah it makes her healing factor more efficient but she won't be able to handle the attacks a berserker state X-24. Sure one can argue he was always in his berserker state but I'm not to sure 🤣🤣🤣
Apparently Hugh Jackman felt absolutely horrible for the way he was asked to treat/speak to Dafne Keen, cursing to her face and what not. He went to Dafne's mother to apologize and she laughed. Saying if you could speak Spanish and knew the names she's calling you, you wouldn't be apologizing.
lol, now apply that to LITERALLY anything you care about. Whatever books you read, songs on the radio, even fictional works like religion. Imagine the ludicrousness of these people who start bawling when some lady sees Jesus in a tortilla.🙄
@@portalina but what if he doesn't care about shallow things for babies? And doesn't unthinkingly swallow consoomer dogma about how pop culture consumption is somehow a personal virtue?
Every hero has a final story. Every warrior fights his last battle. This was Logans. The important part of this story isn't that Logan died. It's what he fought and died for. Protecting children. Protecting young mutants. A fitting end for the last of The X-Men.
Always gets me when Logan says “so this is what it feels like” its like he’s finally got what he’s always dreamed of, such a sad movie but amazingly acted and directed
Yeah, some how people miss the mutant cure being in the corn syrup taking Logan's healing power away. I guess it's the reason that most movies are terrified to not beat people over the head with main plot points, though, why he is losing his powers isn't half as relevant as Logan and Laura's relationship so even if people do miss that plot point there's enough compelling dynamics in the movie for people to still appreciate it.
When I saw this in the theatre, there was an old guy who looked kinda like Santa Claus sitting by himself a few rows behind us. When Laura called Logan "daddy", he began audibly weeping in an otherwise silent theatre - which set off a chain reaction. At least half the theatre ended up loudly sobbing. Easily the most emotional reaction I've ever seen at a movie.
Logan is about 200 years old and lived a painful (he feels every injury) and tragic life. This was the best death Logan could have asked for, to die protecting someone he loves, knowing she is safe, and finally ending his pain.
My favourite fact: Dafne Keen, who plays Laura, is British/Spanish and speaks English and Spanish fluently, but with a Spanish accent. For the movie she switched to a Mexican accent. She also can speak English with a British and American accent.
@@BurntBattleBagel What nonsense are you on about dude? There is no English...there's cockney, scouse, brummie?...Of course there is British...it's an accent from somewhere in Britain.
This is what I thought too, until the Doc (Richard E. Grant) says they've genetically modified the food to kill mutants. Could just be that Logan took longer since his healing powers.
I think it also had to do with the corn to stop future mutants from being born or showing powers and because Logan drinks so much he's taking in even more then anyone else the only reason those kids were born was because of the want to experiment on DNA so the food would be carefully watched
There's actually more to it than that. The doctor explains that GMO changes purposely made to the food supply caused widespread suppression of the mutant gene. This was causing Logan's healing factor to slow down and in theory would eventually stop working all together. This coupled with the adamantium poisoning happening in his body which was originally kept at bay due to his healing factor was in essence killing Logan. One could go so far as to say that it may have also been affecting Charles as well. Yes he was getting older and may have shown signs of dementia but the dementia and the loss of control over his omega level telepathic powers may have also been caused by the GMO changes to the food supply. I know it's just a movie...But it should make one wonder about what the long term side effects are that will come about in the long run with GMOs in OUR OWN food supply.
In the movie he says “random mutantcy went away…” so it just the genes in humans to pass on the gene and stop the birth of mutants. It was strictly the metal that poisoned Logan and slowed down his abilities.
This was supposed to be Hugh Jackman’s farewell tour as Logan. He was tired of the toll it took becoming the Wolverine for movie after movie. So the decision was made to make an R-rated “Swan song” for his version of the character. And it was gory and beautiful and gut wrenching and it was special because it did something that superhero movies didn’t do, it let us say goodbye to the characters we loved. It worked. Until a certain Canadian trickster named Ryan “Deadpool” Reynolds entered the chat…but you have to experience that for yourselves ;)
Yeah. At least he and Dafne Keen were nominated. I'm guessing the critics or whoever decided, didnt think he deserved it for playing the same role, yet again. just differently. *shrug* Critics are dumb though.
It's implied that the reason mutants aren't born anymore is because the corn syrup that is used in most foods products has a mutant suppressant added to it. That is also probably why Wolverine has trouble healing now and why Xavier has a seizure everytime he tries to use his power to freeze people. It's also possible that Caliban wasn't giving the bad guys delayed information, but simply isn't able to track as well as he used to.
I agree with you. Too bad the academy awards are more concerned with diversity and indoctrination oops I meant inclusion. Also Patrick Stewart's a white guy so... Ricky Gervais said it best *If you do win come up accept your little award, thank your agent, and your God then f**k off.*
Laura turning Logan's cross into the X on his grave legitimately ALWAYS breaks me every time I see it. Dark Phoenix came out after this as did Wolverine and Deadpool, but this movie will always represent the last of the 20 Century Fox X-MEN movies for me!!!
No idea why but that moment was when I cried first time and every time since. Not Charles' death, not Logan's death. Two sticks turned on their side. I don't always get me :).
This was the end, Deadpool & Wolverine was the epilogue, a loving send-off and celebration for all of Fox's superhero movies. I choose to ignore Dark Phoenix and New Mutants.
I actually put off watching Logan until after I had seen New Mutants and Dark Phoenix because I wanted it to be the last Fox X-Men movie that I watched.
Double meaning, too. "So this is what death feels like" from the man who (we thought) can't die And "So this is what being a father feels like" Also, the whole "heart in your hands" prediction from The Wolverine.
The old film on the tv is Shane. Based on a wonderful novel, it's a pretty good film. A gunslinger comes to a farm, trying to leave who he is behind him. In the end, in order to save the family that took him in with no judgment, he is forced to take up his old self and put it back on. The young boy has grown to idolize him, and Shane is having none of it. "There's no coming back from a killing," he tells him, and forces himself to leave the farm--the only place he has found any peace. It's a pure western, but elevates the genre. Just like this movie elevates the X-Men franchise. Be well, you two.
Additional little tidbit. When he leaves the kid is yelling for him to come back but Shane doesnot acknowledge him. Why? Because he was dead on the horse as it walked away. Just like Logan when Laura tried calling out to Logan.
I'm originally from Oklahoma - an hour and a half from OKC where the casino scene takes place and 15 minutes from Blackwell, where the family farm scene happens. My grandfather's favorite movie is Shane, as well. All that said, it makes it obvious that I have a very personal connection to this film.
Dafne Keen just ripped across the sky with her performance in this movie. This was her first film - she'd previously been in a BBC TV series - and boy did she arrive with a clap of thunder. Kudos to her for the hard work she must have put in to making the fight scenes believable, but it's her performance as a barely tamed wild creature who gradually falls in love with her dad that is the outstanding thing about the movie. She's a future star, without a doubt.
Hugh wanted to stop being Logan but he said after Dead Pool came out and Ryan Reynolds said he wanted Hugh in that Hugh wanted to do that movie but he had just announced a couple days before that he was done with Logan's character since this movie clearly finishes his arch. Reynolds and Hugh have enjoyed each other since the Wolverine Origin movie.
@@busimagen I love how you crafted a little story there, like you're somehow involved in the production of Marvel movies at an executive level and are sharing your unique insight with the masses. I mean, it's a fun little tale, but how about you save your bullshit for people who will fall for it?
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Well done Carly for making it through your most violent film yet
I know you guys like happy endings, but us others also appreciate when a film can draw raw emotion out of us. People have been interested in dramas and tragedies since Ancient Greece. It “stirs the soul” and I think they wanted to honor Logan and Charles and send them off in something memorable as well as meaningful.
Dafne Keen managed to hold her own in a car with Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart through body language and facial expressions alone . . . at the age of 12. I've not seen her in anything else, but I look forward to it.
There's actually not a lot out there for her. Her first role, immediately before Logan, was in the SciFi miniseries The Refugees, alongside her father. Her next movie after Logan was a film called Ana, though I haven't seen that one. She played Lyra Belacqua in HBO's His Dark Materials, again alongside her father. At the same time she did a podcast about the Battersea Poltergeist. After that, Dafne played Jecki Lon in The Acolyte, and as divisive as that has been, she's pretty universally lauded as the best part of the series. She's got a couple horror films in production, but she's apparently very selective in her roles and isn't throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks (like Millie Bobby Brown).
Guys, this is a redemption story. Logan did battle with the animalistic part of himself that "had no soul", and in the process discovered that he indeed did have a soul - that he cared. More broadly, this is the story of a man who was brutalized by the world and had become brutal in response, who refused to care about himself or others because the world convinced him that he and others had no value. But it was also a story of that despairing, hopeless man discovering, to his surprise, that even amidst the worst of moral horrors, we can choose to "[not] be what they made you" - to choose to care for each other instead. He suffered every pain to right what was wrong. So yes, the greatest (super)hero story 🙂 Congratulations on being brave enough to watch this movie - you survived 🙂
5:30 Logan can and does Age.. he just does so aLOT slower than everyone else because he regenerates. 8:56 Not cutting himself, he was pulling his claw out. He has difficulty extending his claws now. Hugh said this would be the last time he would play Logan....... then he saw Deadpool and thought "fuck.."
my no.2 superhero film of all time. it's the first one i thought was basically just a film. i could bring anyone to see it and they wouldnt need to be a comic fan to appreciate it.
@@lionhead123 Are you serious? Howard the Duck? That's such a trash movie, no one would ever put it on their no. 1. It's obviously Steel starring Shaquille O'Neal.
I'm pretty certain this is the original trilogy timeline. 'Days of future Past' got rid of the Sentinel threat. Corn syrup replaced the Sentinels. That altered corn syrup was the killer. It affected Wolverine's abilities - including healing which allowed the adamantium poisoning. It affected Charles - caused his rapid mental decline and his X-Men killing seizures. Only Logan survived by healing through it.
@@BrianD0313 Dr Rice talks about it at the end, right before he's shot. They used GMO food that contained the "mutant cure". They grew GMO corn that contained the mutant cure , that was then used for corn syrup. Corn syrup is contained in SO MANY different foods. This destroyed the powers of all the mutants in the USA, and kept them from producing new mutant children. They won without even fighting.
@BrianD0313 at the end with the Doctor. Donald Pierce says "you're talking to the man who wiped out your kind" and he explains that he essentially poisoned the corn syrup in food to so the mutant gene would be erased which is why mutants weren't being born anymore
THE MOST bittersweet movie ever! As many times as I've seen it, it tears me up every time. When Laura says "....daddy...!?" BROKE ME every single time!😭
So many people (rightly) praising Carly for making it through this one, but the Cassie I met years ago also needs to be praised. The lady I first met way back has morphed into a fan / critic that has the ability not only to work past gory and rough content, but truly appreciate the story telling and effects that bring the 'rough' stories to the screen. Bravo to both.
That's also the second time now she's chuckled at someone on screen's terminal head trauma and Carly's reaction - she would never have been able to do that back in the day :D
Logan always aged - just more slowly than normal due to his healing ability. Alzheimer's is horrific for normal people. Imagine the world's most powerful telepath with dementia.
I like to think he actually killed Logan during the first seizure, too, but he just healed. Imagine a 3 minute long seizure where almost every muscle is paralyzed. They slowly suffocated. Terrifying.
@@tinocontreras5105Film Logan is nearly 200, comic Logan is around 150 at this point. Logan could have lived a much longer time and his general healing should be much quicker, but the adimantium had been poisoning him since it was put in, so his healing factor is always on because of it.
@@Ladco77 Imagine the leader of the free world. With respect not here to anger anyone. The above comment just gave me pause. Wherever you are politically it's still a heartbreaking situation for any family regardless of status or wealth. Finally If anyone wants to see when both sides got along I recommend Chris Farley Invading Republican Congress & Swearing In Newt Gingrich As Speaker of the House on April 4th, 1995. The clip is here on youtube. Just type in the search bar *Chris Farley impersonates Newt Gingrich.* A hilarious moment in time that everyone can enjoy.
This is not just one of the best comic book films ever made - it's one of the best films ever made. Everyone brought their A Game. This film stands the test of time.
Here are some things you should know about the Logan film. Logan takes place 5 years after the events of X-Men Days of Future past movie because despite the movie being released in 2014 the in-universe timeline took place in 2024. Which means after their time manipulation it created a new timeline where some of the past X-Men movies are still Canon but some of them are not anymore. If you're warning why the wolverine has started aging is primarily due to the fact that he was being poisoned two different sources in this new timeline. Logan was always being poisoned by the adamantium that's why he initially started to age but his excessive healing preventing any excessive aging. Of course now in this new timeline Logan healing isn't this dealing with the adamantium poison but the food additive to prevent any further mutants from being born is also poison Logan as well. Charles has always been a alpha level mutant but due to his dementia he has became a Omega level meeting able to millions if his powers gone unchecked. Charles killed several of the X-Men 1 had to be Kitty who could time travel and the other had to be Hank who could fix the food poisoning and food additive castration. Because the government had their own way of creating their own mutants or should I say mutates like Deadpool. Mutates are people who had a mutant Gene but it never activated during puberty so it has to be forced triggered like the serum they gave to Wade in the first Deadpool movie. The Deadpool movies take place in the new timeline that was created after the events of X-Men Days of Future past that's why some of the characters look different like Colossus or yukio who is known to be negasonic teenage warhead girlfriend except you also should know her for her appearance in the wolverine movie as Logan sidekick who could see the future. If you also forgot Yukio said she saw Logan's death with him lying on his back holding his own heart in his hand and that's what happened in this movie.
It's apparently part of the timeline as of dp3 but the director stated it was an elseworld story on the lead up since people were asking if it was undoing the happy ending of dofp
Only the Adamantium was poisoning Logan. The food additives did not cause mutants to be poisoned and lose their powers. It just prevents new mutants from being born. Charles still had powers, (although his dementia made him lose control.) Caliban still had his powers. All of the children had powers, (and Laura was eating Corn Flakes, drinking sugary energy drink, and eating corn at the farmhouse.)
Also, at the end of Apocalypse, they had Wolverines DNA, which would explain Laura and his duplicate. For a franchise with such a jacked up continuity, there's not much I can see in this movie that would suggest it doesn't follow DOFP's altered timeline.
This ending is so much heavier when you remember Yukio from 'the Wolverine' who could see people's deaths, telling him how he dies; "On your back, there's blood everywhere, and you're holding your heart in your hand."
I will praised this film for its emotional depth, James Mangold's direction, action sequence, screenplay, uncompromising tone, thematic profundity and the performances of Hugh Jackman, Dafne Keen and Patrick Stewart.
In the theatre, I managed to kinda keep it together for most of the movie but when she switched the cross into an X, I lost it. It still gets me everytime.
I saw Logan three times in different theaters - the first viewing on IMAX - here in the Philippines seven years ago. Each time I left the cinema, there were still a few moviegoers on their seats crying. They were so impacted by the movie in ways that other superhero films could not. Logan is a superhero movie that strongly carries elements of R-rated 1980s Hollywood action cinema. It is still a great film to watch.
@@TabathaTMartin It still is a superhero movie but in the form of a grounded, very violent action thriller that recaptured the vibe of the 1980s Hollywood action flicks that were rated R. Bloody hard action here, mutant powers over there, and so on.
I got admit, I think these young ladies held up better than most reviewers! I’ve seen ones that reviewed this movie and they were totally destroyed emotionally by the end.
The stuff they were putting in the corn basically "cures" mutants. And since Logan can heal, his body is trying to fight it as it simultaneously takes away his ability to fight. On top of that, he is also suffering from metal poisoning from the Adamantium they put in him. Logan's healing ability used to be sooooo much stronger. It was diminished when they put the Adamantium in him and has been constantly fighting it ever since, which has left it weakened.
So basically the stuff in the food & drinks is to take away their mutant ability and Logan's only mutant ability was a healing ability, which in turn after getting the adamantiun put onto his skeleton the healing ability kept it from poisoning him. But the stuff in the food/drinks started to weaken/ take away his healing ability which let the adamantiun poison take over and ravage his body. Also yes I know he also has super strength, reflexes, and enhanced senses.
@@julesb1970it didn’t cure the current mutants, it just suppressed the genes in humans so that future generations of mutants wouldn’t be born. It was strictly the metal that was poisoning and slowing down Logan’s abilities.
Actually the HMOs caused no new mutant births i read several articles when this was brought up and not one said anything about the HMOs. Its a great theory but I don't know if anyone actually said that was the reason. It was metal poising pure and simple
Yeah, Deadpool and Wolverine was disappointing. My opinion (for what that's worth) is that it was the worst story for the character of Wolverine and the second worst story for the character of Deadpool. X-Men Origins: Wolverine was an ok story of Wolverine, if you can ignore how they treat the other characters, but it was a horrible Deadpool story. D&W treated Deadpool better (but it isn't as good as Deadpool 1 or 2), but it isn't a good Wolverine story.
@@Slugbug honestly it is a pretty comic accurate take on Wolverine. I don't understand what you didn't like about it. Wolverine has always been a reluctant hero, and in that specific reality, he fucked around and got everyone killed. Not wanting to help anyone is a pretty natural response to everyone you love dying.
@@SlugbugI have no idea what you are on about. It wasn’t meant to be a Wolverine story. It is a Deadpool story that featured Wolverine. It was a great film. Not just for fan service but for being able to be the introduction for both characters into the mcu. This is their way of connecting the dots and going to be a beginning point, as well as fantastic four for the x men to be in the mcu. Your opinion is just that. No one was looking for a Logan part 2. We already got the masterpiece of a Wolverine story. Now we get to have the stories that have fun. If you are looking for master story telling, watching comic book movies is not going to be your thing. Even in the comics, there are stories that span entire multitudes of comics. You can’t put a master story line in one 2 hour film. It ends up getting split into multiple movies. And then, you end up having a couple movies with bits and pieces of a story. Basically what I’m saying is, your expectations are your own doing. No one else’s. That movie did well. I saw it three times. Honestly might see it again before it leaves theatres.
I wish it was possible for you guys to experience opening night. Watching Logan be so broken down but trying so hard to protect Charles, Laura, and Caliban then roar back to life after injecting himself changed the energy in the theater. All of us knew we were seeing the last charge of The Wolverine all of us had grown up with. I’m beyond thankful Hugh came back for Deadpool and Wolverine but this is still a perfect finale to the version the kids from 2000 on who saw him pop his claws on screen for the first time.
I saw it opening night or opening week (can’t remember which one) and what I DO remember is that the theater was just silent when the credits rolled. You could hear people sniffling and crying. This movie broke people….me included. Lol
“I see you on your back, there’s blood everywhere. You’re holding your own heart in your hand.” - The Wolverine foreshadowing Logan holding Laura’s hand as he dies.
@@proutytyler1 "You're holding your own heart in your hand. It's not beating." Weird how Yukio would so cryptic about the circumstances of his death while trying to convince him not to go cause she's afraid he'll die. Weird how she said that Laura's "not beating". Weird how she was able to interpret Logan and Laura's relationship together. Weird how She figured he would die soon, despite this random little girl showing up she's never seen before. Weird how Logan looks old as hell in Logan compared to Wolverine. Weird how he dies in a north american forest and not a japanese one. Yukio must be pretty dumb to think that her vision is going to happen very soon, if THIS is the scene she's seeing. "Logan, if you go, I'm afraid you'll die with some little girl that you apparently love, in a different country, while being much much older. And to help convince you, I'm going to be very metaphorical about it so that you won't understand until the moment it actually happens."
@@Eidlones I'm incredibly glad you're not a teacher of literature. At least I hope you're not. Because if you're having that rough of a time figuring out the symbolism of the message, I don't know that humanity is going to survive much longer.
Like other's have pointed out this story is loosely based on the Old Man Logan by Mark Millar and Steve McNiven. Set within an alternate reality, one where evil triumphed thanks to super-villains uniting under The Red Skull, forming together an army to defeat the heroes. The Avengers, X-Men, and Fantastic Four fell during these attacks with only a few surviving. The saddest part of this story is how the X-Men were defeated. It was by Wolverine himself. Logan was tricked by Mysterio into believing that the school was under attack by villains. Logan cut them down trying to protect the mutant children. But the Illusion starts to break once a villain in Logan's arms says "Logan Stop Please.... Why are you doing this? you're supposed to be our friend..." It's revealed to be the young jubilee, Logan looks around to find the X-Men butchered around him. Jubilee, she looks up to Logan as a mentor feature so this moment was extremely emotional. Since this event Logan made a promise to never unleash his claws again. America was then renamed Amerika and divided up into several territories ruled by a lieutenant of The Red Skull. The comic itself takes place a good few decades after the Fall of Hero's. Following an old Logan on his California farm where he's raised a family, two young kids and a lovely wife. But here's the problem. Logan lives in the territory of Hulkland overseen by the Hulk Gang. The inbred family of Bruce Banner, aka the Hulk who ride around in the Fantastic Car of the Fantastic Four. They want Logan to pay to live on their land, stuff happens and one day Logan comes home to find his family murdered by the Hulk Gang. He then goes on a mission across America to deliver a package, alongside Hawkeye who is now blind. This takes him across Amerika where we meet a few Marvel characters. Red Skull is killed by Wolverine, Logan returns back West and get's his revenge of The Hulk Gang killing all it's member's including Bruce Banner himself in a final Wolverine vs Hulk fight. Wolverine made his first appearance in The Incredible Hulk #180 (1974) so it's a fitting end for Hulk. Logan finds a baby Hulk and decides to raise him as one of his own, riding into the sunset with Baby Hulk on his back. Again this is an alternate reality, similar to Days of Future Past or Age of Apocalypse. Just a very dark future where the villains are victorious and we see what could've happened. Out of all of these Old Man Logan is the darkest, most depressing possible future for our hero's.
Forgot to mention but this reality does have a slight happy ending. After the defeat of Red Skull the children of the fallen hero's of old came together as the Fantastic Force to retake the world. Following this Reed Richards of the Fantastic Four saved the Earth and humanity, allowing it to live in peace for over five hundred years. The Earth then started to die, so the next generation of hero's built a time machine and travelled to the Mainline Marvel Universe in order to inhabit it. The Fantastic Four of the Mainline Universe gave these hero's a new home world called Nu-World. Again Reed Richards to the rescue once again. Old Man Logan went to the Mainline Marvel Universe so he has interacted with our mainline Wolverine along with other characters as well. So yeah very differant to this film lol
Logan's approach makes a LOT more sense, tho. There's NO WAY WHATSOEVER Logan could take out all the X-Men. Especially if he attacked them all at once as was depicted in the book. Emma ALONE could have knocked him cold with a word (plus even his claws can't cut through her diamond skin). And I don't accept the "But they didn't want to hurt him ..." nonsense. Cyclops had no trouble giving him a full optic blast just for pissing him off in the past, and his ability to heal meant they knew there would be no risk of permanently killing him. But Xavier accidentally melting their brains during a seizure? Absolutely tracks.
@@AmbaryernoQuestionable, when it comes to Emma. She does, in fact, have a flaw that will cause her to shatter if it's hit. Its happened before. It should also be mentioned that Emma isn't in the drawing of the dead X-Men anyway, and it could be assumed that she wasn't a member of the X-Men at that point. Now, everything else stretches incredulity a bit, yes. He does kill a couple of them when they're going to help the children, and the fight takes place in a confined room, but yes, as much as the Old Man Logan storyline is beloved, it relies on ignoring A LOT of logical stretches.
Logan is one of the few darker toned films that I can actually rewatch. Yes, it will break you a little and you may cry, but boy oh boy is it glorious to witness. The culmination of decades of film and lore, all to give way to such a beautifully tragic swan song. ❤️ this film and as always y’all’s reaction did not disappoint.
I find the darker the tone, the more bright the light shines. Is this film depressing? Absolutely, but the goodness and heroism feel so much more important.
Xavier's seizures are that trick where he could freeze everyone in a building to waltz in to have a conversation...except he got old and couldn't control it, like to let everyone BREATHE. The adamantium in his skull shields Logan from it.
This is the best in the series, and I like how it works for any and all continuities. While some of the other X-MEN movies have been uneven, watching them gives this one so much more weight. Patrick Stewart deserved a Best Supporting Actor nomination for this.
Slight correction here. The food wasn’t what made Charles and Logan sick. The food is how they stopped new mutants from being born. Logan was sick from the adamantium and Charles was just old.
Exactly. People want to read too much into the corn syrup thing, but it was just to prevent new mutants from being born naturally. Caliban still had his powers. The children had powers, (and I’m sure they ate food with corn syrup in it. Laura is shown eating Corn Flakes, drinking an energy drink, and eating corn during dinner.) Logan was being slowly poisoned by the adamantium for the past 40+ years. Charles was 90, and despite being a powerful telepath, he was still subject to old age and dementia. They specifically mentioned that Caliban previously helped them hunt down other mutants, until he changed sides and helped Logan hide Charles.
Dafne Keen was only 11 years old when she filmed this movie, and did many of her own fight scenes. According to the movie's IMDb Trivia page, "Though Laura maintains a stern demeanour throughout the movie, Dafne Keen had to shoot her fight scenes across several takes, because she was having a bit too much fun." If you want to see more of her, she is a standout in the main role of Lyra Silvertongue/Lyra Bevacqua in "His Dark Materials." The movie she watches and quotes from is "Shane" which I highly recommend you watch. It was nominated for 6 Oscars, winning 1 for Color Cinematography. (And is MUCH more Carly-friendly)
Hard R, defines it well. And not because of the gore, but because of the hardcore drama it has. God, this movie touches me again like it used to. Nine months ago we had to take care of my father, we brought him to live with us, and he passed away less than a month ago. No problem, I'm not sad, I'm relieved that he passed away because type 1 diabetes, it wrecked him, it made him very ill. His suffering is over. And well, my father was also in that state of loss and senile dementia. I had already seen Logan several times, but now it kind of touches me in another deeper level.
Definitely. Logan always hits hard for people who lost someone, particularly if they had dementia like your dad. I am glad your father is at rest and you and your family can properly grieve. As for the movie, the emotional drama was brutal to say the least. Experimenting on kids, Professor X being murdered out of nowhere, the twisted main villain who was encouraging X-24 to kill Logan like that dead doctor was his dad during the final fight, and much more. All of that is monstrous to contemplate for the well being of the characters in the story.
I helped my parents with elder/hospice care with their parents. This movie hit. My dad loves it too... His dad had a real hard time with Alzheimer's and dementia, at the end.
In the comics Pierce was one of the Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club who was mutilated by Logan during The Dark Phoenix saga. He was rebuilt and turned into a cyborg. He left the Hellfire Club and gathered up other soldiers/mercenaries who had been similarly injured by Wolverine and turned them into cyborgs as well, and they called themselves the Reavers. They went after Logan and eventually caught up with him, crucified him, and left him for dead in the Australian Outback. Logan freed himself, tracked down Pierce and the Reavers, and got his revenge. But, as in most comics, no one ever truly stays dead, and Pierce and the Reavers have returned multiple times.
I just want to say, yet again...the honest reactions on your channel are so pure and fantastic! I've seen many other react channels and they just don't have the genuineness (is that a word?) that PIB does. You manage to make movies I've seen a hundred times new again! For all of us watching these, I say thank you and I hope you never run out of movies!
This was a hard and bittersweet ending to the Fox X-men universe. It does come Roaring back in a very crowd pleasing way in Deadpool and Wolverine :) That movie was great too, though in a totally different way.
Always enjoy seeing Cassie and Carly together. Cassie is very good when by herself. But when Carly joins her, the video ascends to a higher level to get both of their reactions.
A thing is beautiful because it will end. It makes its time precious and meaningful. Even the stars themselves flare out, after all. Logan went in a way that I think he was content. He was Laura's dad, keeping her safe as long as he could.
So much about this film that was great. Honestly, I was shocked they didn’t put it forward for a best film Oscar. The acting all round was superb. Even the minor character, like Gabriela, were riveting for their few moments (‘She is not my child, but I lover her; you may not love her, but she is your child’ - such an impactful moment in the film). Even better, it took a genre that is usually heavily reliant on special effects and spectacular set pieces, and gave it genuine depth with well drawn characters, a well paced story, and emotional resonance. When it came out in 2017, my wife and I had been trying to start a family for quite some time, with no luck. When I saw that end scene, where Logan says ‘so… this is what it feels like…’ I felt a single tear roll down my cheek. First time that ever happened to me on account of a film. Two years later, our luck happily changed. And we had a daughter. I still can’t watch that scene without getting a lump in my throat though!
Not even just that scene. There's another scene when they're escaping their compound in the limo and the closeup of Jackman is a cgi double. Even when you know which scene it is you'd still swear it's the real Jackman not a cgi double.
Very impressed the amount of details and references these two caught all the way through the movie. The only ones I have seen who recognized Calaban. Right up to the end when they started talking about the food and didn't realize that Will Munson was talking about corn syrup.
A man's truest enemy is his own rage; the symbolism of Wolverine fighting himself. In the end, his daughter kills the rage that tortures him with the bullet.
I was thinking this as I found this. Lol His rage is mirrored in her face, and he realizes he's arguing with himself, and HE wouldn't budge. Why would she? 💔😭🤣
I think someone needs to explain to Cassie and Carly that Logan is loosely based on the "Old Man Logan" graphic novel, which is an alternate future storyline, and as such, was supposed to be dark and depressing.
Yep. So instead of trying to find a way from the other X-Men movies to this, think of this as an extreme Mad Max future scenario adjusted closer to the present.
Honestly, while they used Old Man Logan for some of the basic world building and starting premise, a lot more of the actual plot seems to be adapted from the two X-23 origin books, Innocence Lost and Target: X. Just put Donald Pierce in the Kimura role.
@@3allz well, we now know just how huge the multiverse is. Deadpool showed us just how many versions of the X-Men are out there. So it's not much of a stretch to assume Logan happens in a different universe from the other movies - especially since some universes are identical up to one crucial point of divergence.
@50:30 that's what's worng with the multiverse today. Back then we didn't know there was going to be another wolverine movie. The emotion was different back then.
The film she quotes that they watched earlier is Shane (1953). In the film a world weary gunslinger trying to escape his past helps a widow and her young son defend their home from men who want to take her land. The story seems cliché today but Shane was one of the early films to introduce that trope. In the film the son idolizes Shane's life as a gunslinger while Shane tries to discourage the boy from a life of violence. Shane gives the speech Laura quotes, after the final fight, severely wounded he rides into the sunset while slumped over in his saddle. To this day film scholars debate whether or not he dies as he rides off. So that scene she quotes has a much deeper relevance if you know the details of Shane.
I haven't seen anyone comment this and you didn't realize it, but Yukio's prophesy from The Wolverine of Logan's death came true in this movie. "I see you on your back, there's blood everywhere. You're holding your own heart in your hand."
Logan is weapon X the 10th mutant to be turned into a weapon by the anti-mutant humans, she is X-23 his daughter. The adult clone of him was X-24. Back in "The Wolverine" Yukio said that Logan would died with his hart in his hand and in this film Laura holds his hand as he dies.
In The Wolverine, Yukio ( the mutant that can see how people die) tells Logan he dies with his heart in his hand and at the the end of this hes holding Laura's hand as he dies.
Love what Mangold did. From the Wolverine. "You were on your back. There's blood everywhere. You were holding your heart in your hand." I was fighting tears opening weekend! Great movie!! Hurts like hell but great!
And then literally later in that exact same movie she says "I saw you die in a room like this" pretty sure the Canadian/North Dakota border is not a high tech medical room lol
@@ccvan5191 She outright tells him in the very same scene she doesn't get all the details right, just the general gist. So there's a built-in out for the room bit.
this picks up years after days of future past ending where logan comes back from the past , xavier became old and got seizures and ge killed all the xmen in the mansion with that , logan survived because of his healin factor
Laura aka X-23 is a character from the comics, but originally made her debut in the cartoon show, X-Men: Evolution, which you might like. In it, Nick Fury (white one) tells Logan they cloned him. They added her to the comic books and had her grow up and join a x-men team with some members from the past. I think they also took ideas from the Old Man Logan comics where Logan lived long enough to see a marvel dystopian future where a lot of stuff were messed up.
Hugh Jackman's and Patrick Stewart's performances are out of this world, it's remarkable.
The fact they didn’t get Oscar noms that year especially Patrick still blows my mind. He was absolutely incredible in this movie
@@Manofsteel1701-f4r i think this movie was nominated
@@Manofsteel1701-f4r I'm sure it's the Academy's pride that they'd never give a nod to a "comic book movie." But it's a travesty. They did such a profoundly good job - Dafne as well as the other two.
@@mr_mix2365 I don’t think for performances. I think it was for other categories but those two and like another comment said Dafne were breathtaking in this movie
@@Manofsteel1701-f4r no it's for best adapted screenplay
I just googled it
They were told it was "Hard R." They said they were prepared. They were not prepared. 🤣🤣🤣
In fairness, none of us were.
@@WOLVERINE25TH Good point 👍🏼
They were not! 😅
Cassie was fine but Carly was so annoying here, yelling sarcastically at Logan the whole time. This movie is way too adult for her.
@@sup9542 Your comment says more about your ego than anything or anyone else.
What Laura yells to him when she first speaks is also pretty heartbreaking, in a sense. She says “you expect me to talk to you when you just mistreat me, just yell at me, just try to ditch me?!” In other words she knows full well who he is and his treatment hurt her feelings to the point where she just refused to talk to him. A child giving her dad the silent treatment.
In the van? De Nada,
you Can Talk!?
That bit? cheers👍
@@calvinjohnstone2664 Yeap... "No pretendas que hable contigo si me insultas, si me gritas, si me intentas dejar tirada. Tu pretendes que hable contigo?"
@aelere7702 thank you for this!
Yeah, I saw it translated and Dafne delivered it like she felt it! Best child performance EVER!
It's a shame they didn't use the take where she drops a c-bomb on him:
Dafne Keen requested permission from Mangold to improvise on a couple takes of various scenes, and the truck scene was one of them. After one of them, Jackman took Daf's mother aside to apologize for having been screaming obscenities in her face. Her mother just waved him off and told him it was ok, because Daf just called him a c*nt.
Imagine being 11 years old having to act with Hugh Jackman & Patrick Stewart giving 110% and being so good the movie is legendary because of what you add to it...
Not just acting but martial arts and stunt work too. I'm sure most of that was a double, but it's still damn near the toughest casting choice possible.
I feel like we should be talking abt Dafne Keen in the same way Natalie Portman was after "Leon". Not comparing them per se, but just in the sense that they were not "older actors playing significantly younger", as on teen dramas like "90210" and "Riverdale", but they were actual children holding their own against established actors in films that dealt with extremely violent and mature situations, and they never felt false or out of place, like the director had to shoot "around" them and then make up for it in editing. I hope Dafne Keen has a long and illustrious career ahead of her, much like Natalie Portman's (if that's what she wants.)
@@soxxel12 Yeah she was given a big task and she knocked it out the park. Her appearance in Deadpool too was so well acted - she wasn't on screen long but she delivered so much in those few moments.
And then imagine that's the peak of your career, and the only thing anyone knows you from is a brief cameo in another comic book movie. It'd be like winning the World Series your rookie season, and then never again.
@@DanSmith-j8y Daphne Keen stared in His Dark Materials and she's still only 19. A bit early to suggest that she has peaked.
48:25 "Oh, she can't fight him! She's too little, she's too little."
Laura: Proceeds to give X-24 the beating of his life and then fires the shot that ends him.
Yeah, they said that after they watched her wreak havoc in the desert already. I don't know why they thought she would stop being a bad ass.
I wouldn't say it was a beating. She unlike Logan had an active Healing Factor but after one slap to the face she was put down. Her getting the shot on X-24 was only possible cause he was distracted. Had X-24 focused mainly on killing her she would have lost.
@@neekZDI quite likely. unlike Logan and X-24, Laura only has adamantum bonded to her claws. This makes her healing factor slightly stronger than Logan's was at his prime (after the bonding process) but leaves her much more vulnerable to killing blows, especially ones delivered by adamantum blades that can cut through a small body like a hot knife through butter.
@@GreyhawkTheAngry That's what I keep telling people. Everyone thinks her entire skeleton is bonded in Adamantium but it's only her claws. So yeah it makes her healing factor more efficient but she won't be able to handle the attacks a berserker state X-24. Sure one can argue he was always in his berserker state but I'm not to sure 🤣🤣🤣
Apparently Hugh Jackman felt absolutely horrible for the way he was asked to treat/speak to Dafne Keen, cursing to her face and what not. He went to Dafne's mother to apologize and she laughed. Saying if you could speak Spanish and knew the names she's calling you, you wouldn't be apologizing.
*Bwhahahaha.*
😂😂😂😂😂
"Chupacadra!"
@@vilefly😅
True but at the same time it's more authentic and probably easier to film when you're looking at them face-to-face@@thisspaceforrent5737
Laura saying "Daddy" as logan is dying always breaks my heart.
Daddy ≥ Donor?
Always
Brilliantly delivered, I'm devastated every time!
You might benefit from watching more movies...?
Goddamn that is a tear jerker
"It wasnt me Charles, it wasnt me" fuuuuuck I bawled. This movie was a masterpiece but fucking hell it was sad.
As in---sobbed and convulsed? Over a fictional comic book movie?
Maybe let someone express themselves and don't be so crass.
lol, now apply that to LITERALLY anything you care about. Whatever books you read, songs on the radio, even fictional works like religion. Imagine the ludicrousness of these people who start bawling when some lady sees Jesus in a tortilla.🙄
@@portalina but what if he doesn't care about shallow things for babies? And doesn't unthinkingly swallow consoomer dogma about how pop culture consumption is somehow a personal virtue?
Yeah its called good writing and good acting. Are you trying to say you have never got emotional about a movie unless they are true stories ?
Every hero has a final story. Every warrior fights his last battle. This was Logans. The important part of this story isn't that Logan died. It's what he fought and died for. Protecting children. Protecting young mutants. A fitting end for the last of The X-Men.
It's even more amazing if you have watched The Wolverine, where Yukio foresees Logan's death and that is exactly how it happens in this movie.
@@Klaital1 Nah, see saw him die with his heart in his hand if i remember correctly.
@@AeroFix94 Which he did, metaphorically speaking, as he was holding Laura as he died.
@@Klaital1 Ah, ye olde "from a certain point of view."
Vastly underrated comment, right here. 👍
Always gets me when Logan says “so this is what it feels like” its like he’s finally got what he’s always dreamed of, such a sad movie but amazingly acted and directed
Carly is really sharp, she picked up on just about everything in this movie that most people miss.
Yeah, some how people miss the mutant cure being in the corn syrup taking Logan's healing power away. I guess it's the reason that most movies are terrified to not beat people over the head with main plot points, though, why he is losing his powers isn't half as relevant as Logan and Laura's relationship so even if people do miss that plot point there's enough compelling dynamics in the movie for people to still appreciate it.
Yeah I missed the corn syrup thing. I also missed the Statue of Liberty sign at the motel!
Not Carly, Cassie.
This WAS the ultimate closure. He discovers his full humanity, in the last seconds of his life.
She thought he was cutting himself and didn’t realize he was pulling his 3rd claw out, how is that really sharp 😂
Before the world cried for Iron Man
We cried for Wolverine
Before that, we cried for Superman.
You didn't ask, I know, I'm just saying.
@@Ryan-bn4uc And we'll cry again in Super/Man
@@Ryan-bn4uc Before that we cried for Old Yeller
Yeah, everybody was sobbing and sniffling when I saw this in the theater.
I cried for Frodo.
And Théoden.
And Boromir.
Man, that Trilogy really messed me up...
When I saw this in the theatre, there was an old guy who looked kinda like Santa Claus sitting by himself a few rows behind us. When Laura called Logan "daddy", he began audibly weeping in an otherwise silent theatre - which set off a chain reaction. At least half the theatre ended up loudly sobbing. Easily the most emotional reaction I've ever seen at a movie.
I don't know why, but this is so fucking sweet, and it made me cry too.
😂 I find that extremely hard to believe...
No way he's in your theatre too, I think he's real Santa Claus.
Logan is about 200 years old and lived a painful (he feels every injury) and tragic life. This was the best death Logan could have asked for, to die protecting someone he loves, knowing she is safe, and finally ending his pain.
My favourite fact: Dafne Keen, who plays Laura, is British/Spanish and speaks English and Spanish fluently, but with a Spanish accent. For the movie she switched to a Mexican accent. She also can speak English with a British and American accent.
She also stated recently that she would like to continue to reprise her role as X-23.
There is no british, just English, welsh, northern irish, and scottish
@@BurntBattleBagel Not according to passports.
@@BurntBattleBagel What nonsense are you on about dude? There is no English...there's cockney, scouse, brummie?...Of course there is British...it's an accent from somewhere in Britain.
Carly got it right. The adamantium is poisoning Logan, but since he heals so fast it doesn't affect him as much. That is until now.
This is what I thought too, until the Doc (Richard E. Grant) says they've genetically modified the food to kill mutants. Could just be that Logan took longer since his healing powers.
I think it also had to do with the corn to stop future mutants from being born or showing powers and because Logan drinks so much he's taking in even more then anyone else the only reason those kids were born was because of the want to experiment on DNA so the food would be carefully watched
There's actually more to it than that. The doctor explains that GMO changes purposely made to the food supply caused widespread suppression of the mutant gene.
This was causing Logan's healing factor to slow down and in theory would eventually stop working all together. This coupled with the adamantium poisoning happening in his body which was originally kept at bay due to his healing factor was in essence killing Logan.
One could go so far as to say that it may have also been affecting Charles as well. Yes he was getting older and may have shown signs of dementia but the dementia and the loss of control over his omega level telepathic powers may have also been caused by the GMO changes to the food supply.
I know it's just a movie...But it should make one wonder about what the long term side effects are that will come about in the long run with GMOs in OUR OWN food supply.
A lot of people missed that since it was so subtly explained. I think comic fans were more familiar with the notion.
In the movie he says “random mutantcy went away…” so it just the genes in humans to pass on the gene and stop the birth of mutants. It was strictly the metal that poisoned Logan and slowed down his abilities.
This was supposed to be Hugh Jackman’s farewell tour as Logan. He was tired of the toll it took becoming the Wolverine for movie after movie. So the decision was made to make an R-rated “Swan song” for his version of the character. And it was gory and beautiful and gut wrenching and it was special because it did something that superhero movies didn’t do, it let us say goodbye to the characters we loved. It worked.
Until a certain Canadian trickster named Ryan “Deadpool” Reynolds entered the chat…but you have to experience that for yourselves ;)
lol now he has to do it till he's 90.
@@squirrelsinjacket1804ninetttyyyyy
And why not? It's a character from a coloring book for babies. There's no "artistic integrity" at stake here.
@@squirrelsinjacket1804Until he dies in an accident, like Paul Walker.
@@squirrelsinjacket1804 I was repeating that to myself all the way through this video.
Stewart should have gotten the oscar for this role, everyone dropped jaw when he didn't.
Yeah. At least he and Dafne Keen were nominated.
I'm guessing the critics or whoever decided, didnt think he deserved it for playing the same role, yet again. just differently. *shrug* Critics are dumb though.
@@lyianx they weren't nominated. Logan only got an Oscar nomination for best screenplay.
It's implied that the reason mutants aren't born anymore is because the corn syrup that is used in most foods products has a mutant suppressant added to it. That is also probably why Wolverine has trouble healing now and why Xavier has a seizure everytime he tries to use his power to freeze people. It's also possible that Caliban wasn't giving the bad guys delayed information, but simply isn't able to track as well as he used to.
I said it when the film came out, and I'll still say it: Patrick Stewart deserved an Oscar nom at the very least for this performance.
I agree with you. Too bad the academy awards are more concerned with diversity and indoctrination oops I meant inclusion. Also Patrick Stewart's a white guy so... Ricky Gervais said it best *If you do win come up accept your little award, thank your agent, and your God then f**k off.*
I don't think so
- James corden
Patrick Stewart has been such a good actor for the last 40 years I've been alive he can just laugh at the oscars.
@@Footballclips888 Hosting the Golden Globes Ricky Gervais said Corden is a fat p**sy and also was in the movie Cats.
@@Footballclips888 James corden is the worst celebrity in the world. -me
Laura turning Logan's cross into the X on his grave legitimately ALWAYS breaks me every time I see it. Dark Phoenix came out after this as did Wolverine and Deadpool, but this movie will always represent the last of the 20 Century Fox X-MEN movies for me!!!
No idea why but that moment was when I cried first time and every time since. Not Charles' death, not Logan's death. Two sticks turned on their side. I don't always get me :).
I really loved New Mutants as it did the characters really well. but yeah... this one certainly puts a X in the FOX franchise.
This was the end, Deadpool & Wolverine was the epilogue, a loving send-off and celebration for all of Fox's superhero movies. I choose to ignore Dark Phoenix and New Mutants.
I actually put off watching Logan until after I had seen New Mutants and Dark Phoenix because I wanted it to be the last Fox X-Men movie that I watched.
When Logan said "So this is what it feels like" That was very heartbreaking 💔.
Double meaning, too.
"So this is what death feels like" from the man who (we thought) can't die
And "So this is what being a father feels like"
Also, the whole "heart in your hands" prediction from The Wolverine.
"So this is what it feels like" - Meaning the feeling of having family? Or is he referring to finally being able to die? Or a bit of both?
@@Mr.Ekshin A bit of both.
@@Mr.Ekshin Both.
Every time
The old film on the tv is Shane. Based on a wonderful novel, it's a pretty good film. A gunslinger comes to a farm, trying to leave who he is behind him. In the end, in order to save the family that took him in with no judgment, he is forced to take up his old self and put it back on. The young boy has grown to idolize him, and Shane is having none of it. "There's no coming back from a killing," he tells him, and forces himself to leave the farm--the only place he has found any peace. It's a pure western, but elevates the genre. Just like this movie elevates the X-Men franchise. Be well, you two.
It's so perfect, it really gives away that Logan is just a Marvel IP stuffed into a Shane sausage casing.
Definitely got that modern western feel
Additional little tidbit. When he leaves the kid is yelling for him to come back but Shane doesnot acknowledge him. Why? Because he was dead on the horse as it walked away. Just like Logan when Laura tried calling out to Logan.
I'm originally from Oklahoma - an hour and a half from OKC where the casino scene takes place and 15 minutes from Blackwell, where the family farm scene happens. My grandfather's favorite movie is Shane, as well. All that said, it makes it obvious that I have a very personal connection to this film.
@@JosephWallace-y8pYeah, and nobody is complaining.
This was also the first ever Superhero movie to be nominated for best adaptated screenplay at the Oscars
What about the Dark Knight who was up for four Oscar
@@jjohnson4013 None of those are for screenplay are they? Also TDK was up for 8 Oscars and won 2 of them. Where'd you get 4 from?
Dafne Keen just ripped across the sky with her performance in this movie. This was her first film - she'd previously been in a BBC TV series - and boy did she arrive with a clap of thunder. Kudos to her for the hard work she must have put in to making the fight scenes believable, but it's her performance as a barely tamed wild creature who gradually falls in love with her dad that is the outstanding thing about the movie. She's a future star, without a doubt.
When you rewatch this film, that dinner scene just breaks your heart. The burden of knowing what happens after makes it so bittersweet to watch
Even knowing the Dad is Darryl from Coming to America can only soften the blow so much.
This was the second time Logan was taken in by people just to have them be killed
@@lapelcelery42 Haha, never spotted that.
“Fox killed him but Disney brought him back. They’re gonna make him do this till he’s 90!” 😂😂
Hugh wanted to stop being Logan but he said after Dead Pool came out and Ryan Reynolds said he wanted Hugh in that Hugh wanted to do that movie but he had just announced a couple days before that he was done with Logan's character since this movie clearly finishes his arch. Reynolds and Hugh have enjoyed each other since the Wolverine Origin movie.
@@parker469a Your first sentence reads like a fever dream lol 😂
When I heard him say that, I was cracking up as I said “God, I hope so!”
@@AverageJoe-n6cRun on sentences run on sentences run on sentences run on sentences run on sentences run on sentences run on....
@@busimagen I love how you crafted a little story there, like you're somehow involved in the production of Marvel movies at an executive level and are sharing your unique insight with the masses. I mean, it's a fun little tale, but how about you save your bullshit for people who will fall for it?
Well done Carly for making it through your most violent film yet
Meh... if she virtue signaled any harder, she'd have to pretend to faint at the sight of blood.
@@Mr.Ekshin wow who hurt you
@@Mr.Ekshin I don't think you know what the term "virtue signaling" means...
@@Mr.Ekshin Grow a heart, they're nice to have.
Yeah, good job
The movie Xavier and Laura watched, that she quotes at the end, is "Shane", an Oscar winning movie and one of the best westerns of all time.
I know you guys like happy endings, but us others also appreciate when a film can draw raw emotion out of us. People have been interested in dramas and tragedies since Ancient Greece. It “stirs the soul” and I think they wanted to honor Logan and Charles and send them off in something memorable as well as meaningful.
Happy endings get boring, and are simply unrealistic.
This story seemed fitting for the character, bittersweet.
“She's like you... she's very much like you.”
when logan drives at her with the limo & x23 just jumps & claws into the sunroof is my most rewatched scene!
That was made abundantly clear when she punched Logan in the face in anger lol
@@squirrelsinjacket1804yep, definitely his daughter 😂……god now I feel sad again
@@TabathaTMartin She's a clone, so basically an artificial twin. But I understand the feeling.
Dafne Keen managed to hold her own in a car with Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart through body language and facial expressions alone . . . at the age of 12. I've not seen her in anything else, but I look forward to it.
There's actually not a lot out there for her.
Her first role, immediately before Logan, was in the SciFi miniseries The Refugees, alongside her father.
Her next movie after Logan was a film called Ana, though I haven't seen that one.
She played Lyra Belacqua in HBO's His Dark Materials, again alongside her father. At the same time she did a podcast about the Battersea Poltergeist.
After that, Dafne played Jecki Lon in The Acolyte, and as divisive as that has been, she's pretty universally lauded as the best part of the series.
She's got a couple horror films in production, but she's apparently very selective in her roles and isn't throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks (like Millie Bobby Brown).
@@NathanMalnaa Trying to avoid spoilers, here.
@@Ambaryerno sorry, I could be wrong
She is in Star Wars: The Acolyte. She is Master Sol Padawon, in heavy make up.
She plays Lyra in the "His Dark Materials" TV series. She is great in that too.
"Oh if they hurt this family, *so help me*..."
...yeah, about that -
Cassie and Carly clearly don't pay attention to this franchise when they say, "Good innocent people always tend to die around Logan.".
Guys, this is a redemption story. Logan did battle with the animalistic part of himself that "had no soul", and in the process discovered that he indeed did have a soul - that he cared.
More broadly, this is the story of a man who was brutalized by the world and had become brutal in response, who refused to care about himself or others because the world convinced him that he and others had no value. But it was also a story of that despairing, hopeless man discovering, to his surprise, that even amidst the worst of moral horrors, we can choose to "[not] be what they made you" - to choose to care for each other instead. He suffered every pain to right what was wrong.
So yes, the greatest (super)hero story 🙂
Congratulations on being brave enough to watch this movie - you survived 🙂
5:30 Logan can and does Age.. he just does so aLOT slower than everyone else because he regenerates.
8:56 Not cutting himself, he was pulling his claw out. He has difficulty extending his claws now.
Hugh said this would be the last time he would play Logan....... then he saw Deadpool and thought "fuck.."
my no.2 superhero film of all time. it's the first one i thought was basically just a film. i could bring anyone to see it and they wouldnt need to be a comic fan to appreciate it.
What's no.1?
@@ericeppensteiner8105 came to ask this exact question
@@ericeppensteiner8105 Howard the duck of course.
@@lionhead123 Are you serious? Howard the Duck? That's such a trash movie, no one would ever put it on their no. 1. It's obviously Steel starring Shaquille O'Neal.
@@DerMoerpler aw dang, you are right of course. How could i forget that classic?
51:45 I love how offended Carly is by that title drop.
I'm pretty certain this is the original trilogy timeline. 'Days of future Past' got rid of the Sentinel threat. Corn syrup replaced the Sentinels. That altered corn syrup was the killer. It affected Wolverine's abilities - including healing which allowed the adamantium poisoning. It affected Charles - caused his rapid mental decline and his X-Men killing seizures. Only Logan survived by healing through it.
I must have missed it but whats this "corn syrup" ?
@@BrianD0313 Dr Rice talks about it at the end, right before he's shot. They used GMO food that contained the "mutant cure". They grew GMO corn that contained the mutant cure , that was then used for corn syrup. Corn syrup is contained in SO MANY different foods.
This destroyed the powers of all the mutants in the USA, and kept them from producing new mutant children. They won without even fighting.
@BrianD0313 at the end with the Doctor. Donald Pierce says "you're talking to the man who wiped out your kind" and he explains that he essentially poisoned the corn syrup in food to so the mutant gene would be erased which is why mutants weren't being born anymore
Continuity for this series is "do you vaguely remember the last movie?"
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THE MOST bittersweet movie ever! As many times as I've seen it, it tears me up every time. When Laura says "....daddy...!?" BROKE ME every single time!😭
Giving early-onset dementia to the most powerful telekinetic in the world is next-level writing
Telepath. Telekinetics move things with their mind. Telepaths read/control the minds of others.
Just lazy horror tropes. He would have just killed them all.
50:00 Yukio’s vision came true. Logan’s on his back, blood everywhere, and he’s holding his heart in his hand 🥺😭
i dont see his heart in his hand.
@@unkommentiertesgameplay The "heart" is not literal, though the blood certainly was! Ha!
@@unkommentiertesgameplay The heart is metaphorical in this case. Simple as that ^_^
@@ExitStrategy1609 Does it really matter if it's intended or not? it works anyway.
@@ExitStrategy1609 oh yeah i realise the tone doesn't really go through in writing, but i wasn't disagreeing with you, more adding to what you said
So many people (rightly) praising Carly for making it through this one, but the Cassie I met years ago also needs to be praised. The lady I first met way back has morphed into a fan / critic that has the ability not only to work past gory and rough content, but truly appreciate the story telling and effects that bring the 'rough' stories to the screen. Bravo to both.
35:20 (Cassie having the presence of mind to stick with it) 😂
Apocolypse now freaked her out when they finally made it to kurtz
That's also the second time now she's chuckled at someone on screen's terminal head trauma and Carly's reaction - she would never have been able to do that back in the day :D
Cassie first watching of 'Schindler's List' was in retrospect perhaps a tad bit early for her. But she's got some resilience now a few years later 😅
Logan always aged - just more slowly than normal due to his healing ability.
Alzheimer's is horrific for normal people. Imagine the world's most powerful telepath with dementia.
I like to think he actually killed Logan during the first seizure, too, but he just healed. Imagine a 3 minute long seizure where almost every muscle is paralyzed. They slowly suffocated. Terrifying.
didnt they say logan could be over 200
@@tinocontreras5105Film Logan is nearly 200, comic Logan is around 150 at this point.
Logan could have lived a much longer time and his general healing should be much quicker, but the adimantium had been poisoning him since it was put in, so his healing factor is always on because of it.
@@Ladco77 Imagine the leader of the free world. With respect not here to anger anyone. The above comment just gave me pause. Wherever you are politically it's still a heartbreaking situation for any family regardless of status or wealth. Finally If anyone wants to see when both sides got along I recommend Chris Farley Invading Republican Congress & Swearing In Newt Gingrich As Speaker of the House on April 4th, 1995. The clip is here on youtube. Just type in the search bar *Chris Farley impersonates Newt Gingrich.* A hilarious moment in time that everyone can enjoy.
A healing factor shouldn't affect aging. Aging doesn't have to do with healing.
This is not just one of the best comic book films ever made - it's one of the best films ever made. Everyone brought their A Game. This film stands the test of time.
Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart, and Daphne Keen all deserved at least a nomination for an Oscar. They all knocked it out of the park.
Here are some things you should know about the Logan film. Logan takes place 5 years after the events of X-Men Days of Future past movie because despite the movie being released in 2014 the in-universe timeline took place in 2024. Which means after their time manipulation it created a new timeline where some of the past X-Men movies are still Canon but some of them are not anymore. If you're warning why the wolverine has started aging is primarily due to the fact that he was being poisoned two different sources in this new timeline. Logan was always being poisoned by the adamantium that's why he initially started to age but his excessive healing preventing any excessive aging. Of course now in this new timeline Logan healing isn't this dealing with the adamantium poison but the food additive to prevent any further mutants from being born is also poison Logan as well. Charles has always been a alpha level mutant but due to his dementia he has became a Omega level meeting able to millions if his powers gone unchecked. Charles killed several of the X-Men 1 had to be Kitty who could time travel and the other had to be Hank who could fix the food poisoning and food additive castration. Because the government had their own way of creating their own mutants or should I say mutates like Deadpool. Mutates are people who had a mutant Gene but it never activated during puberty so it has to be forced triggered like the serum they gave to Wade in the first Deadpool movie. The Deadpool movies take place in the new timeline that was created after the events of X-Men Days of Future past that's why some of the characters look different like Colossus or yukio who is known to be negasonic teenage warhead girlfriend except you also should know her for her appearance in the wolverine movie as Logan sidekick who could see the future. If you also forgot Yukio said she saw Logan's death with him lying on his back holding his own heart in his hand and that's what happened in this movie.
No, this is an alternate line movie, based on the "old man Logan" comic.
It's apparently part of the timeline as of dp3 but the director stated it was an elseworld story on the lead up since people were asking if it was undoing the happy ending of dofp
Only the Adamantium was poisoning Logan. The food additives did not cause mutants to be poisoned and lose their powers. It just prevents new mutants from being born. Charles still had powers, (although his dementia made him lose control.) Caliban still had his powers. All of the children had powers, (and Laura was eating Corn Flakes, drinking sugary energy drink, and eating corn at the farmhouse.)
Also, at the end of Apocalypse, they had Wolverines DNA, which would explain Laura and his duplicate.
For a franchise with such a jacked up continuity, there's not much I can see in this movie that would suggest it doesn't follow DOFP's altered timeline.
This ending is so much heavier when you remember Yukio from 'the Wolverine' who could see people's deaths, telling him how he dies; "On your back, there's blood everywhere, and you're holding your heart in your hand."
“She’s a little Wolverine?”
“She’s a little Wolverine.”
She's more of a honey badger imo and I'm here for it.
@@fredfredburger5150No, Gabby is Honey Badger. Laura is Wolverine.
I will praised this film for its emotional depth, James Mangold's direction, action sequence, screenplay, uncompromising tone, thematic profundity and the performances of Hugh Jackman, Dafne Keen and Patrick Stewart.
In the theatre, I managed to kinda keep it together for most of the movie but when she switched the cross into an X, I lost it. It still gets me everytime.
I saw Logan three times in different theaters - the first viewing on IMAX - here in the Philippines seven years ago. Each time I left the cinema, there were still a few moviegoers on their seats crying. They were so impacted by the movie in ways that other superhero films could not. Logan is a superhero movie that strongly carries elements of R-rated 1980s Hollywood action cinema. It is still a great film to watch.
I don’t really know if this classifies as a superhero movie. It’s more like a dark violent emotional thriller, but that’s just me
@@TabathaTMartin It still is a superhero movie but in the form of a grounded, very violent action thriller that recaptured the vibe of the 1980s Hollywood action flicks that were rated R. Bloody hard action here, mutant powers over there, and so on.
This movie will destroy you.
I got admit, I think these young ladies held up better than most reviewers! I’ve seen ones that reviewed this movie and they were totally destroyed emotionally by the end.
The stuff they were putting in the corn basically "cures" mutants. And since Logan can heal, his body is trying to fight it as it simultaneously takes away his ability to fight. On top of that, he is also suffering from metal poisoning from the Adamantium they put in him. Logan's healing ability used to be sooooo much stronger. It was diminished when they put the Adamantium in him and has been constantly fighting it ever since, which has left it weakened.
Yep. Laura heals much faster than him because only her claws are bonded with adamantium.
So basically the stuff in the food & drinks is to take away their mutant ability and Logan's only mutant ability was a healing ability, which in turn after getting the adamantiun put onto his skeleton the healing ability kept it from poisoning him. But the stuff in the food/drinks started to weaken/ take away his healing ability which let the adamantiun poison take over and ravage his body. Also yes I know he also has super strength, reflexes, and enhanced senses.
@@julesb1970it didn’t cure the current mutants, it just suppressed the genes in humans so that future generations of mutants wouldn’t be born. It was strictly the metal that was poisoning and slowing down Logan’s abilities.
@@julesb1970 yes correct
Actually the HMOs caused no new mutant births i read several articles when this was brought up and not one said anything about the HMOs. Its a great theory but I don't know if anyone actually said that was the reason. It was metal poising pure and simple
'Logan' and the original 'Superman' from 1978 are the best comic book movies ever made.
"Logan" is a tribute to Logan the man. "Deadpool and Wolverine" is a tribute to Wolverine the legend.
Deadpool and Wolverine is a cynical cashgrab.
Tribute? Deadpool desecrated his grave.
Yeah, Deadpool and Wolverine was disappointing. My opinion (for what that's worth) is that it was the worst story for the character of Wolverine and the second worst story for the character of Deadpool. X-Men Origins: Wolverine was an ok story of Wolverine, if you can ignore how they treat the other characters, but it was a horrible Deadpool story. D&W treated Deadpool better (but it isn't as good as Deadpool 1 or 2), but it isn't a good Wolverine story.
@@Slugbug honestly it is a pretty comic accurate take on Wolverine. I don't understand what you didn't like about it. Wolverine has always been a reluctant hero, and in that specific reality, he fucked around and got everyone killed. Not wanting to help anyone is a pretty natural response to everyone you love dying.
@@SlugbugI have no idea what you are on about. It wasn’t meant to be a Wolverine story. It is a Deadpool story that featured Wolverine. It was a great film. Not just for fan service but for being able to be the introduction for both characters into the mcu. This is their way of connecting the dots and going to be a beginning point, as well as fantastic four for the x men to be in the mcu. Your opinion is just that. No one was looking for a Logan part 2. We already got the masterpiece of a Wolverine story. Now we get to have the stories that have fun. If you are looking for master story telling, watching comic book movies is not going to be your thing. Even in the comics, there are stories that span entire multitudes of comics. You can’t put a master story line in one 2 hour film. It ends up getting split into multiple movies. And then, you end up having a couple movies with bits and pieces of a story. Basically what I’m saying is, your expectations are your own doing. No one else’s. That movie did well. I saw it three times. Honestly might see it again before it leaves theatres.
I wish it was possible for you guys to experience opening night. Watching Logan be so broken down but trying so hard to protect Charles, Laura, and Caliban then roar back to life after injecting himself changed the energy in the theater. All of us knew we were seeing the last charge of The Wolverine all of us had grown up with. I’m beyond thankful Hugh came back for Deadpool and Wolverine but this is still a perfect finale to the version the kids from 2000 on who saw him pop his claws on screen for the first time.
I saw it opening night or opening week (can’t remember which one) and what I DO remember is that the theater was just silent when the credits rolled. You could hear people sniffling and crying. This movie broke people….me included. Lol
“I see you on your back, there’s blood everywhere. You’re holding your own heart in your hand.” - The Wolverine foreshadowing Logan holding Laura’s hand as he dies.
You have to interpret a lot to make it fit.
@@unkommentiertesgameplay The director certainly did. He said so himself.
@@unkommentiertesgameplay Not really, it's pretty spot on.
@@proutytyler1 "You're holding your own heart in your hand. It's not beating."
Weird how Yukio would so cryptic about the circumstances of his death while trying to convince him not to go cause she's afraid he'll die. Weird how she said that Laura's "not beating". Weird how she was able to interpret Logan and Laura's relationship together. Weird how She figured he would die soon, despite this random little girl showing up she's never seen before. Weird how Logan looks old as hell in Logan compared to Wolverine. Weird how he dies in a north american forest and not a japanese one.
Yukio must be pretty dumb to think that her vision is going to happen very soon, if THIS is the scene she's seeing.
"Logan, if you go, I'm afraid you'll die with some little girl that you apparently love, in a different country, while being much much older. And to help convince you, I'm going to be very metaphorical about it so that you won't understand until the moment it actually happens."
@@Eidlones I'm incredibly glad you're not a teacher of literature. At least I hope you're not.
Because if you're having that rough of a time figuring out the symbolism of the message, I don't know that humanity is going to survive much longer.
Logan is a masterpiece. Up there with the Dark Knight
Chrissy: "Can we redo time again?"
Deadpool: "Hold my Chimichanga"
"She needs therapy!" Cassie that is both hilarious and the best understatement 😅
Like other's have pointed out this story is loosely based on the Old Man Logan by Mark Millar and Steve McNiven. Set within an alternate reality, one where evil triumphed thanks to super-villains uniting under The Red Skull, forming together an army to defeat the heroes. The Avengers, X-Men, and Fantastic Four fell during these attacks with only a few surviving.
The saddest part of this story is how the X-Men were defeated. It was by Wolverine himself. Logan was tricked by Mysterio into believing that the school was under attack by villains. Logan cut them down trying to protect the mutant children. But the Illusion starts to break once a villain in Logan's arms says "Logan Stop Please.... Why are you doing this? you're supposed to be our friend..." It's revealed to be the young jubilee, Logan looks around to find the X-Men butchered around him. Jubilee, she looks up to Logan as a mentor feature so this moment was extremely emotional. Since this event Logan made a promise to never unleash his claws again.
America was then renamed Amerika and divided up into several territories ruled by a lieutenant of The Red Skull. The comic itself takes place a good few decades after the Fall of Hero's. Following an old Logan on his California farm where he's raised a family, two young kids and a lovely wife. But here's the problem. Logan lives in the territory of Hulkland overseen by the Hulk Gang. The inbred family of Bruce Banner, aka the Hulk who ride around in the Fantastic Car of the Fantastic Four. They want Logan to pay to live on their land, stuff happens and one day Logan comes home to find his family murdered by the Hulk Gang.
He then goes on a mission across America to deliver a package, alongside Hawkeye who is now blind. This takes him across Amerika where we meet a few Marvel characters. Red Skull is killed by Wolverine, Logan returns back West and get's his revenge of The Hulk Gang killing all it's member's including Bruce Banner himself in a final Wolverine vs Hulk fight. Wolverine made his first appearance in The Incredible Hulk #180 (1974) so it's a fitting end for Hulk. Logan finds a baby Hulk and decides to raise him as one of his own, riding into the sunset with Baby Hulk on his back.
Again this is an alternate reality, similar to Days of Future Past or Age of Apocalypse. Just a very dark future where the villains are victorious and we see what could've happened. Out of all of these Old Man Logan is the darkest, most depressing possible future for our hero's.
Forgot to mention but this reality does have a slight happy ending. After the defeat of Red Skull the children of the fallen hero's of old came together as the Fantastic Force to retake the world. Following this Reed Richards of the Fantastic Four saved the Earth and humanity, allowing it to live in peace for over five hundred years. The Earth then started to die, so the next generation of hero's built a time machine and travelled to the Mainline Marvel Universe in order to inhabit it. The Fantastic Four of the Mainline Universe gave these hero's a new home world called Nu-World. Again Reed Richards to the rescue once again.
Old Man Logan went to the Mainline Marvel Universe so he has interacted with our mainline Wolverine along with other characters as well. So yeah very differant to this film lol
Logan's approach makes a LOT more sense, tho. There's NO WAY WHATSOEVER Logan could take out all the X-Men. Especially if he attacked them all at once as was depicted in the book. Emma ALONE could have knocked him cold with a word (plus even his claws can't cut through her diamond skin). And I don't accept the "But they didn't want to hurt him ..." nonsense. Cyclops had no trouble giving him a full optic blast just for pissing him off in the past, and his ability to heal meant they knew there would be no risk of permanently killing him.
But Xavier accidentally melting their brains during a seizure? Absolutely tracks.
@@Ambaryerno Damn, why you roastin this dude so hard???
@@AmbaryernoQuestionable, when it comes to Emma. She does, in fact, have a flaw that will cause her to shatter if it's hit. Its happened before. It should also be mentioned that Emma isn't in the drawing of the dead X-Men anyway, and it could be assumed that she wasn't a member of the X-Men at that point.
Now, everything else stretches incredulity a bit, yes. He does kill a couple of them when they're going to help the children, and the fight takes place in a confined room, but yes, as much as the Old Man Logan storyline is beloved, it relies on ignoring A LOT of logical stretches.
Great summary. Just one correction. *Heroes.
"This is not how I want to remember them."
That was my exact thought, Cassie.
Logan is one of the few darker toned films that I can actually rewatch. Yes, it will break you a little and you may cry, but boy oh boy is it glorious to witness. The culmination of decades of film and lore, all to give way to such a beautifully tragic swan song. ❤️ this film and as always y’all’s reaction did not disappoint.
I find the darker the tone, the more bright the light shines. Is this film depressing? Absolutely, but the goodness and heroism feel so much more important.
@@OldWestGunslinger-vs9mx I concur. 👍🏽
Xavier's seizures are that trick where he could freeze everyone in a building to waltz in to have a conversation...except he got old and couldn't control it, like to let everyone BREATHE. The adamantium in his skull shields Logan from it.
You *HAVE* to watch Deadpool And Wolverine. Laura comes back, and the ending is MUCH BETTER without tarnishing what happened.
Cass, wow, good eye indeed. I NEVER noticed that Statue of Liberty before you pointed it out. Nicely done!
Me either! I thought it was a reference to the first x-men film.
Yes that was a first for me too.
This is the best in the series, and I like how it works for any and all continuities. While some of the other X-MEN movies have been uneven, watching them gives this one so much more weight. Patrick Stewart deserved a Best Supporting Actor nomination for this.
So many great performances in this - Patrick Stewart, Hugh Jackman, and Daphne Keen all were amazing in this
Slight correction here. The food wasn’t what made Charles and Logan sick. The food is how they stopped new mutants from being born. Logan was sick from the adamantium and Charles was just old.
Exactly. People want to read too much into the corn syrup thing, but it was just to prevent new mutants from being born naturally. Caliban still had his powers. The children had powers, (and I’m sure they ate food with corn syrup in it. Laura is shown eating Corn Flakes, drinking an energy drink, and eating corn during dinner.)
Logan was being slowly poisoned by the adamantium for the past 40+ years.
Charles was 90, and despite being a powerful telepath, he was still subject to old age and dementia.
They specifically mentioned that Caliban previously helped them hunt down other mutants, until he changed sides and helped Logan hide Charles.
Dafne Keen was only 11 years old when she filmed this movie, and did many of her own fight scenes. According to the movie's IMDb Trivia page, "Though Laura maintains a stern demeanour throughout the movie, Dafne Keen had to shoot her fight scenes across several takes, because she was having a bit too much fun." If you want to see more of her, she is a standout in the main role of Lyra Silvertongue/Lyra Bevacqua in "His Dark Materials."
The movie she watches and quotes from is "Shane" which I highly recommend you watch. It was nominated for 6 Oscars, winning 1 for Color Cinematography. (And is MUCH more Carly-friendly)
Logan is the movie that director James Mangold had wanted to make ever since he directed 1997's Cop Land with Sylvester Stallone.
I would love to see the girls watching that movie too 😍.
@@joshuacampbell7493Logan and Cop Land are both essentially modern westerns.
God I hope not. That would be so depressing.
Then why didn't he do that when he directed The Wolverine
Cop Land is one of the most criminally underrated films ever made.
Hard R, defines it well.
And not because of the gore, but because of the hardcore drama it has.
God, this movie touches me again like it used to.
Nine months ago we had to take care of my father, we brought him to live with us, and he passed away less than a month ago.
No problem, I'm not sad, I'm relieved that he passed away because type 1 diabetes, it wrecked him, it made him very ill. His suffering is over.
And well, my father was also in that state of loss and senile dementia.
I had already seen Logan several times, but now it kind of touches me in another deeper level.
That's a nice sentiment but it was the extreme violence, especially by children that warranted the hard R.
Definitely. Logan always hits hard for people who lost someone, particularly if they had dementia like your dad. I am glad your father is at rest and you and your family can properly grieve. As for the movie, the emotional drama was brutal to say the least. Experimenting on kids, Professor X being murdered out of nowhere, the twisted main villain who was encouraging X-24 to kill Logan like that dead doctor was his dad during the final fight, and much more. All of that is monstrous to contemplate for the well being of the characters in the story.
Easily the best comic book movie ever made.
It's very,very,good but no.
I helped my parents with elder/hospice care with their parents.
This movie hit. My dad loves it too... His dad had a real hard time with Alzheimer's and dementia, at the end.
In the comics Pierce was one of the Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club who was mutilated by Logan during The Dark Phoenix saga. He was rebuilt and turned into a cyborg. He left the Hellfire Club and gathered up other soldiers/mercenaries who had been similarly injured by Wolverine and turned them into cyborgs as well, and they called themselves the Reavers. They went after Logan and eventually caught up with him, crucified him, and left him for dead in the Australian Outback. Logan freed himself, tracked down Pierce and the Reavers, and got his revenge. But, as in most comics, no one ever truly stays dead, and Pierce and the Reavers have returned multiple times.
I just want to say, yet again...the honest reactions on your channel are so pure and fantastic! I've seen many other react channels and they just don't have the genuineness (is that a word?) that PIB does. You manage to make movies I've seen a hundred times new again! For all of us watching these, I say thank you and I hope you never run out of movies!
Best conclusion to a superhero’s life ❤
This was a hard and bittersweet ending to the Fox X-men universe. It does come Roaring back in a very crowd pleasing way in Deadpool and Wolverine :) That movie was great too, though in a totally different way.
Perfect way to end the fox universe
Always enjoy seeing Cassie and Carly together. Cassie is very good when by herself. But when Carly joins her, the video ascends to a higher level to get both of their reactions.
A thing is beautiful because it will end. It makes its time precious and meaningful. Even the stars themselves flare out, after all. Logan went in a way that I think he was content. He was Laura's dad, keeping her safe as long as he could.
I DONT THINK THE GIRLS READY THIS MOVIE :D
LIFE LONG TRAUMA IS READY
Tbf none of us were really ready for the ending
So much about this film that was great. Honestly, I was shocked they didn’t put it forward for a best film Oscar. The acting all round was superb. Even the minor character, like Gabriela, were riveting for their few moments (‘She is not my child, but I lover her; you may not love her, but she is your child’ - such an impactful moment in the film).
Even better, it took a genre that is usually heavily reliant on special effects and spectacular set pieces, and gave it genuine depth with well drawn characters, a well paced story, and emotional resonance.
When it came out in 2017, my wife and I had been trying to start a family for quite some time, with no luck. When I saw that end scene, where Logan says ‘so… this is what it feels like…’ I felt a single tear roll down my cheek. First time that ever happened to me on account of a film.
Two years later, our luck happily changed. And we had a daughter.
I still can’t watch that scene without getting a lump in my throat though!
The head replacement on the other Logan is out of this world. You can not tell that is CGI.
Not even just that scene. There's another scene when they're escaping their compound in the limo and the closeup of Jackman is a cgi double. Even when you know which scene it is you'd still swear it's the real Jackman not a cgi double.
@@fredfredburger5150it’s like Alien Covenant tbh except done better
The scene in the hotel with the comic book you can tell it was a re shoot after he shaved his head because the wig is pretty bad.
That's the thing about good cgi, it often goes unnoticed
They digitally aged Hugh Jackman throughout the entire movie, and nobody noticed.
Very impressed the amount of details and references these two caught all the way through the movie. The only ones I have seen who recognized Calaban. Right up to the end when they started talking about the food and didn't realize that Will Munson was talking about corn syrup.
The most heart wrenching Marvel movie of them all.
A man's truest enemy is his own rage; the symbolism of Wolverine fighting himself. In the end, his daughter kills the rage that tortures him with the bullet.
/bong rip
@@JosephWallace-y8p/pseudo intellectual
@@JosephWallace-y8p /drinks tea with pinkie up
I was thinking this as I found this. Lol
His rage is mirrored in her face, and he realizes he's arguing with himself, and HE wouldn't budge. Why would she?
💔😭🤣
I think someone needs to explain to Cassie and Carly that Logan is loosely based on the "Old Man Logan" graphic novel, which is an alternate future storyline, and as such, was supposed to be dark and depressing.
Exactly. It’s not actually attached to the other X-men movies. It’s more of a “What If?” type storyline
Yep. So instead of trying to find a way from the other X-Men movies to this, think of this as an extreme Mad Max future scenario adjusted closer to the present.
Problem is, I think canonically, its been confirmed this is part of the Fox X-Men universe
Honestly, while they used Old Man Logan for some of the basic world building and starting premise, a lot more of the actual plot seems to be adapted from the two X-23 origin books, Innocence Lost and Target: X. Just put Donald Pierce in the Kimura role.
@@3allz well, we now know just how huge the multiverse is. Deadpool showed us just how many versions of the X-Men are out there. So it's not much of a stretch to assume Logan happens in a different universe from the other movies - especially since some universes are identical up to one crucial point of divergence.
@50:30 that's what's worng with the multiverse today. Back then we didn't know there was going to be another wolverine movie. The emotion was different back then.
The film she quotes that they watched earlier is Shane (1953). In the film a world weary gunslinger trying to escape his past helps a widow and her young son defend their home from men who want to take her land. The story seems cliché today but Shane was one of the early films to introduce that trope. In the film the son idolizes Shane's life as a gunslinger while Shane tries to discourage the boy from a life of violence. Shane gives the speech Laura quotes, after the final fight, severely wounded he rides into the sunset while slumped over in his saddle. To this day film scholars debate whether or not he dies as he rides off. So that scene she quotes has a much deeper relevance if you know the details of Shane.
I haven't seen anyone comment this and you didn't realize it, but Yukio's prophesy from The Wolverine of Logan's death came true in this movie. "I see you on your back, there's blood everywhere. You're holding your own heart in your hand."
This will not end well for Carly
"Don't be what they made you" ❤️🙏
HAHAHAHA !!!! @ 16:53 “Oh my gosh, she’s got toe-ones …she’s got toe-ones!!!!”
Man, you two are GREAT!! ❤
Logan is weapon X the 10th mutant to be turned into a weapon by the anti-mutant humans, she is X-23 his daughter. The adult clone of him was X-24.
Back in "The Wolverine" Yukio said that Logan would died with his hart in his hand and in this film Laura holds his hand as he dies.
In The Wolverine, Yukio ( the mutant that can see how people die) tells Logan he dies with his heart in his hand and at the the end of this hes holding Laura's hand as he dies.
Saw this in the theater when it came out. Everyone was stunned completely silent on the way out! It was crazy!
Love what Mangold did. From the Wolverine. "You were on your back. There's blood everywhere. You were holding your heart in your hand." I was fighting tears opening weekend! Great movie!! Hurts like hell but great!
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And then literally later in that exact same movie she says "I saw you die in a room like this" pretty sure the Canadian/North Dakota border is not a high tech medical room lol
@@ccvan5191 She outright tells him in the very same scene she doesn't get all the details right, just the general gist.
So there's a built-in out for the room bit.
I’m just gonna say it, Mangold saved the franchise, after last stand it was nice to see a true return to form in the X men films
Well, here we go.
Long lasting precious memories and PTSD. The greatest Marvel movie ever.
this picks up years after days of future past ending where logan comes back from the past , xavier became old and got seizures and ge killed all the xmen in the mansion with that , logan survived because of his healin factor
Laura aka X-23 is a character from the comics, but originally made her debut in the cartoon show, X-Men: Evolution, which you might like. In it, Nick Fury (white one) tells Logan they cloned him. They added her to the comic books and had her grow up and join a x-men team with some members from the past.
I think they also took ideas from the Old Man Logan comics where Logan lived long enough to see a marvel dystopian future where a lot of stuff were messed up.