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Let's be honest, Michael Fassbender as younger Magneto carried the rebooted X-Men franchise.
Yea he did dude. James mcavoy did a decent job too
Agreed
Indeed! Michael Fassbender made me like X-men again
I'd say it was a group effort, with he and McAvoy spearheading the (overall) superior re-boot.
No lies told.
When Mystique is in Magnito’s bed and makes herself look older, that’s the same actress who plays Mystique in the other X-Men movies.
Thanks, Captain Obvious.
@@bryanfox5457 Not everyone catches it because she only had a about two minutes of screen time looking like herself. Guys who spent the entire 90s poring over their stack of SI swimsuit issues, however...
Her name is Rebecca Romijn.
Rebecca Romijn is currently playing Number One on Star Trek: Strange New Worlds
Oh wow that's awesome, im glad she is doing well! I tripped out when i first saw this and she popped up! @MrDcwithrow
Michael Fassbender and James McAvoy are great casting choices, both do an excellent job
Erik is my favorite villain of all time. And this movie is a great example of why. He's so sympathetic and understandable and layered. "I've been at the mercy of men 'just following orders'" is a line that really hits for me.
If you live in a western country you will soon experience being at the mercy of men who follow orders.
That line really hits.
Right until you realize Erik is the ultimate hypocrite by turning into a exact copy of the group he hates so much. He literally has the exact same ideology as the Nazis.
That's good writing. Magneto is the perfect villain because he is kinda right. His reasoning is sound... I really like how he and prof X debate the topic.
@@demarek
To say Magneto is right, is to say the Nazis were right.
They literally have the same ideology.
ANYBODY staying they're following orders, it reminds of the scary justification the Nazis used. It's too common.
Sean "Banshee" Cassidy is the father of the red-haired girl in X2 who screams when the X-Mansion is attacked, sounding the alarm and shattering windows. Her codename is "Siryn".
Don't forget alex aka Havok being cyclops brother
Siryn?😂 lmao
Good to know.
that so maters. garbage moviees.
It's matters
Movies
Raven turning into Rebecca Romjin for a moment (Mystique from the original run of movies) when she shows up in Eric's bed was a nice detail.
Jlaw is such a downgrade.
the superior Mystique
I've always wondered why there was a different actress during the brief shift. I just taught maybe someone important in the Marvel appearing as a small cameo or something.
Now you have context for Deadpool (2015) when Deadpool said "MacAvoy or Stewart?" when Colossus is dragging him away in handcuffs to see Professor X. That's Deadpool's OTHER mutant power besides healing. The mutant ability to break the 4th wall. In the comics, the other characters look at Deadpool like he's insane when Deadpool breaks the 4th wall.
Because Deadpool KNOWS, not suspects, but truly, utterly KNOWS that he is a character in a comic. But that also drove him completely insane and unpredictable as he doesn't even know himself what he will do as he is at the whim of the comic's authors, who also often change. So he's often himself astonished at what he just did. Which makes him also immune to being cognitively predicted by heros or villains with precognitive abilities. They find themselves stumped to be unable to see his future as it is rapidly changing and mutating due to this insanity and whimsical nature of the authors. In essence, it makes Deadpool the ultimate superhero as he is not only able to sometimes see through the 4th wall, but even break into the reality of the author and change the story by even killing of the authors in the comics, which then changes his story... ooooowwww, my head hurts...
@@RustyDust101it's not a mutant thing. Other characters can do it that are not mutants.
Then you have Gwenpool (aka Gwen Poole) who breaks the fourth wall because she's from our world, and actively climbs between comic panels.
@@TLB7476 She-Hulk, for instance, who was doing it several years before Wade.
Deadpool sucks
That Wolverine cameo will always be iconic.
LOVE this movie! The part where Charles unlocks Erik’s mind makes me tear up every time I watch this.
Crazy how in 3 years you've gone from not knowing most people you've seen on screen to knowing even the supporting characters of movies. Well done.
Erik's scene in Argentina (11:51) is by far the best part of this movie.
This is one of those rare movies that vastly exceeded my expectations when it first came out. I love it. The casting is phenomenal. Every actor in this movie one hundred percent delivered.
*Charles screams in agony as Shaw is killed*
"Can he feel that?" 🤣
“Macavoy or Stewart? These timelines are so confusing…” Deadpool
My late father loved sci-fi/comic movies. In October of '62, he was a young airborne infantryman in the Italian Army during the Cuban Missile Crisis. This movie brought back a memory of him telling me about those critical13 days in 1962. He would have loved this movie.
Both Michael Fassbender and James MacAvoy were in Band of Brothers too!
Simon Kinberg proved that he can do a better job as a producer than as a writer
In fact, he was the one who pitched Matthew Vaughn to direct this movie, after seeing KICK-ASS
I mean, Simon Kinberg did some great writing throughout Days of Future Past and such
@@officialmonarchmusic And then he royally screwed the pooch when he wrote and directed Dark Phoenix.
@@officialmonarchmusicdays of future past first draft is written by Matthew Vaughan, Matthew Vaughan want it to be third movie but fox said nope so Matthew Vaughan left. Simon kinberg came and improvise Matthew Vaughan script.
What funny thing is Simon kinberg want dark pheonix to have 2 movies like avengers infinity war + endgame with Jean as main character but fox said nope thus Simon kinberg were forced to make it as last X-men movie because of Disney bought fox in 2018
I would said simon kinberg is similar to David S Goyer, they both script writer and given opportunity to direct but they f it up. Weird thing is when they got help with script, they can improved it to make it better. But if they did solo, they will are not good with script
Michael Fassbender is profoundly strong as a presence, as an actor. And James McAvoy too.
"Days of Future Past" equals the cat's meow!
The Rogue Cut please
Yes yes yes@@MrJholshouser41
@@MrJholshouser41definitely 😊
“Let’s just say I’m Frankensteins’ monster, and I’m looking for my creator” That still gives me goosebumps.
Most people still think Frankenstein's monster is Frankenstein lol
For the record, the first class in the comics was Scott, Jean, Hank, Warren, and Bobby. Aka Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Beast, Angel, and Iceman.
The good ole days.
Actually they retconned that in the comics. The first class was lead by cyclop's older brother and they all died(except Scott's brother) and Xavier wiped the memories of their existence from Scott and the others. Honestly not the most F'ed up thing Xavier did in the comics.
But isnt Scott the older brother of Alex. @@markcarpenter6020
@@markcarpenter6020 since Alex is younger is younger than Scott in the comics, then I assume their forgotten and never-mentioned older brother died?
@@neospock5034 no he turned into.... something else. But yeah they reconned it that there were three summers brothers. Scott was the middle brother.
Magneto was fighting "in the shade" and laughing in the movie "300" ....as a King Leonidas's warrior
Michael Fassbender and James McAvoy played the duo excellently. Love how they play the friendship of Charles and Eric. Magneto is no doubt one of the most sympathetic villains. Also love that they managed to incorporate the Cuban missile crisis into this. Probably my fav X-men film.
Magneto is SUCH a great villain - I can absolutely put myself in his shoes and say that I'd probably feel the same way. That line... "I've been at the mercy of men just following orders - never again"... so good. He basically had me convinced.
Erik is the very definition of a tragic villain. He's not a bad guy but because of what he experienced he was pushed to do bad things and became a bad guy. That's why Charles tries to remain friends with him, he knows deep down Erik is not bad. But by that time it was too late.
Havoc, the guy from prison with the energy ring powers is Cyclops's brother. I don't think they mention that in the film because Xavier still has not met him yet.
Yes, that's Scott's brother. The movies changed things so he's older than Scott instead of younger like the comics.
It was showed in X-men apocalypse.
@@dallasyap3064
Probably missed it because that film was so bad I had lost interest in it. Thanks for the info though!
“We know [Rose Byrne]” More than you know. Moira is the doctor that was looking after Charles’ brain dead twin in X-Men 3
Cyclops’ real name is Scott Summers. Havock is Alex Summers. And both shoot beams of red energy from their body. Hmm. 🤔😏
Fun fact: in the comics, Azazel used to be the father of Nightcrawler. It was very recently retconned. It doesn’t come up in these movies except for a blooper
Just following orders. Like the ONE thing you don’t repeat to a holocaust survivor. “We did as we were told.’ ‘We functioned as ordered.’ ‘We merely carried out directives from our superiors.’ It was the Nazi theme music at Nuremberg, the new lyrics to the Götterdämmerung, the plaintive litany of the master race as it lay dying. ‘We did not do, others did.’ Or ‘someone else did it.’ ‘We never even knew that it was being done.’ Or ‘we did it, but others told us to.’” Twilight Zone, Death’s Head Revisited.
There was definitely no hints of a sibling relationship between Xavier and Mystique in the previous films
The biggest mindbreaker is that Magneto and Rogue have a child they name Charles!
In the comics, isn't Mystique Nightcrawler's mom? So Mystique got with Azazel? lol
@@christiandavila61 correct. Well, the azazel part used to be correct.
On the topic of Moira: Eh, barely. In X-3 she's Scottish and knows who Charles is. They may technically be the same character, at least by name, but its one of the many continuity errors between the old movies and the prequels.
@@elessartelcontar9415I’m sorry what?! Rouge is a literal teenager when Magneto is in like his 60s! (In the movies at least) Not to mention he literally tortured her with the intention of killing her! How tf does she have a kid with him?!
Emma Frost has been part of the comics for a long time. She was a villain for decades until a couple of tragedies made her rethink and reform. She's always stayed true to her sassy self, though.
January Jones was SO horribly miscast. She just didn't have the presence and charisma.
She never turned into diamonds in the whole period I was reading. Just a telepath who worked with Shaw, and ran a mutant school for the Hellfire Club that had a team called the Hellions.
@@AmbaryernoIt’s hard to blame her when she was directed to ‘be cold and wooden’ as they director saw Emma’s character and just went ‘ice queen’ despite January asking to do more with it. If any other actress got the role I doubt they’d have done much different.
@@thisspaceforrent5737 The Hellions first appeared in 1984, and Emma's Face Turn was in 1991. Emma's diamond form was introduced in 2000.
The short scene with Hugh Jackman/Wolverine got the biggest reaction in the theaters when he appeared. After he spoke the ad libbed line of Go F*ck Yourself got everyone laughing so much afterwards 🤣.
What was he actually supposed to say?
@@William_Sk I have no idea what he was originally supposed to say from the original script. If this was actually scripted, it's a brilliant and hilarious job well done by the screenwriter. If it is an ad lib by Jackman, then kudos to him for a well timed and absolutely funny one liner 😂.
As a PG-13 film, you're allowed one "fuck" and this film used it correctly.
*dude forces a piece of metal through someone's brain*
"What just happened?"
"I think he just killed him..."
😆
Yeah, I was thinking "Really? What just happened is what you clearly just saw happen. You have to ask?" 😂 These two definitely make me laugh.
Sort of like the personal shields in Dune, any intense kinetic force would be absorbed, but the slow, relentless push goes through.
I’ve been dying for them to watch this.
So are you dead now?
21:25
Fun Fact for you Cassie and Carly:
When Wolverine tells Charles and Erik (Magneto) "Go F#$k Yourself", that was totally ad-libbed by Hugh Jackman
What was he supposed to say?
@PhilBagels he wasn't supposed to say anything, based on what I'd heard
@@karlsmith2570 Huh. How would that work? Charles and Erik introduce themselves, and Logan just sits there and says nothing until it gets awkward and they leave? That would seem weird. Just curious.
@@karlsmith2570 IMDB is your friend. He was supposed to say "F* Off" and improvised it after seven takes and they kept that in.
@@artistamisto oh so that’s where F**k off!! Comes from later in the series
Some Comic and/or Movie connections
*Azazal (the red, teleporting demon with a prehensile tail) is the father of Night Crawler - Mystique is Nightcrawlers mother).
*Havok (the guy with difficult-to-control energy blasts) is Cyclops brother.
*Emma Frost was seen in Wolverine Origins during the jail break, along with Cyclops. She uses her diamond skin to protect mutants from bullets.
*Moira MacTaggert is in X-Men: Last Stand. She is the person the disintegrated Charles talks to off camera during the post credit scene. Earlier in the film, MacTaggert spoke in a video about the ways of using mutant powers, such as transferring the mind of a dying man into the body of a patient with no higher brain function, giving an explanation for his resurrection. She's been Charles' on again-off again love interest in the comics since the 70's.
Azazael is sort of Nightcrawler's father. Technically Mystique is. They retconned it so that Mystique was in Azazael's form and got Destiny pregnant with Nightcrawler.
Cyclops' and Havok's dad is a space pirate called Corsair, captain of The Starjammer.
@johnathanmichaud867 How does Mystique, transformed into Azazel's form, grant Night Crawler teleporting powers? Retconing generally just doesn't work!
@@shanegraham2500 no clue.
A fun game I like to play when watching X-Men:
Any time Mystique does a double-cross or otherwise disappoints, just slowly shake your head with a small, sheepish grin, and say “That’s So Raven”.
@@90hatter90 Quoth, not quote.
better than having a drink. Especially with Jennifer's version. Just want someone to slap her in every scene. Prequel Mystique was perfect. When she wasn't blue, she could be anyone. Iceman, Logan, Storm, that congressman. Where as the new version she has a "normal" form just because Jennifer hated the make up.
@@90hatter90 Absolutely not.
Completely different words with different meanings.
@@90hatter90 It's not my own way.
The correct and only way to spell the word is quoth.
There is no your or my way.
@@Quotenwagnerianer let me delete all this and write it correctly to make you proud so you’ll shut tf up and pat yourself on the back biggun. I’ll correct it for you. SMH
42:36 oooh Charles, you should not have said that!
In case you didn’t know, „just following orders“ was a very common excuse that Nazis loved to use to „justify“ their participation in WW2 and the Holocaust.
“I can’t feel my legs” wrecks me every time 😫
Deadpool says it better.
@@stevedenis8292deadpool sucks
Alex Summers is Scott's brother, in this movie, Alex is older than Scott, in the comics, Scott is the older brother. Azazel, the red guy, he is the father of Nightcrawler, the blue teleporter from X2: X-Men United, his mother is Mystique.
Since the next movie takes place 10 years later I like to imagine (and it fits with the timeline) that Mystique and Azazel got close while traveling around the world in Magneto's little brotherhood after this movie. At some point, Mystique got pregnant, but, given her lifestyle at the time of being an international terrorist, she probably rightly decided she wouldn't make a good mother, and abandoned the child at the doorway of some German cathedral. Nightcrawler then would have been raised by clergy, and Mystique would have had no idea that it was her son she was encountering in the later movies. But... when she sees a photo of Azazel in the next movie and gets emotional... that scene makes more sense with this backstory filled in.
Not anymore according to modern comics. She is canonically now Nightcrawler's father. Yeah . . .
@@gundamleviathan5760 I don't count modern comic books as canon. They suck and focus way too much on diversity and girl bosses.
@@leegutierrez1562 What an ignorant remark. They're not doing anything now that Chris Claremont wasn't already doing with the franchise in the 80s. He wrote Kitty and Rachel as bi, Editorial just wouldn't let him make take it beyond subtext. And the concept of Mystique and Destiny being Nightcrawler's biological parents WAS WHAT CLAREMONT HIMSELF WANTED TO DO.
I swear if Claremont was writing today you dipshits would be screaming for his head on a platter.
@@leegutierrez1562 I'm with you, here. Diversity of skill sets is fine as you get a broader pool of skill coverage. Diversity as it is in the present, however, is divisive bullshit that has no place in society, other than on fire inside of a dumpster somewhere.
37:31
Watching Erik lifting that Submarine for the first time was an exhilarating experience. Michael Fassbender as Magneto was a masterclass performance.
X-Men debuted 60 years ago.
Without a doubt, it's among the most legendary of Marvel Comics.
But to tell the backstory of these characters within in the film franchise was a great idea.
Because in this universe, they've been around just as long.
Matthew Vaughn (Layer Cake, Kick-A**, Kingsman) helmed this one.
Casting of the characters was great especially with McAvoy as Xavier and Fassbender as Lensherr.
The building of the past for Children of the Atom with history we already know in the 20th century.
Putting the Hellfiire Club on screen had been in early drafts of the first X-Men film in the 90s.
Kevin Bacon as Sebastian Shaw (cold and calculating) and January Jones aa Emma Frost (superhot) were perfect too.
Part of a summer full of multiple Marvel movies along with Marvel Studios' Thor and Captain America:The First Avenger.
Even with the newer MCU at the time, the X-Universe on film could stand toe to toe.
Your gonna love the follow up to X-Men First Class.
Believe me, it will be a union and reunion to remember.
Kevin Bacon play as two Sebastian's: this movie right here & Hollow Man
Hollow Man is such a classic!
@JaHawkey70 I liked Hollow Man and was surprised that it got such poor reviews from critics and audiences alike. I'm curious to watch it again some time to see if a couple of intervening decades have changed my opinion.
Hollow Man is fantastic!! 💘 Elizabeth Shue!! 😊
That’s right-l’m glad you pointed that out.
@@bigdream_dreambig I remember watching it when I was a kid (would have been 11 at the time) and it actually was pretty scary to me. I remember it being very suspenseful. I haven't watched it in decades also and should also give it a watch to see how it holds up!
The biggest plot hole in the entire fox X-men movies is Darwin dying, because his power is literally adapting to survive anything, which includes Shaws powers.
I believe in the script and novelization, Darwin knew he **could** survive the blast, but it meant letting it out where the others would be injured or even killed. So he internalized the energy and kept it inside of himself, to protect his new friends.
This is my favorite right behind The Wolverine. James and Michael did a phenomenal job, and seeing both of their opinions and what led to each of their paths/decisions throughout their friendship is amazing.
This is a solid adaptation but doesn't hold a candle to DoFP. And even though young Magneton is my favorite character in the entire franchise, there was absolutely no need for him in that film.
41:45 - Sounds exactly like Sir Ian as Magneto in the original trilogy. The inflections. The wording. The presence.
Michael and James were in episodes of the HBO miniseries Band of Brothers. James was only in one episode while Michael was in quite a few. Both played American soldiers.
Yep Fassbender is the GI carrying the .30 cal machine gun who drank from his canteen. What's funny is that band of brothers had so many good stars before they hit it big like the dude who played Bane.
@@samellowery If you look very carefully, you will find a whole raft of very young UK actors (it filmed in England), who played members of the 506th PIR in that series. James McAvoy (replacement after D-Day), Michael Fassbender (original Taccoa man), Simon Pegg (Sobel's orderly), Tom Hardy (Market Garden replacement).. more, I think, but I can't remember them all.
A solid chunk of the cast is actually British.
I will admit that I'm sad we couldn't get an X-Men 1960s film following the original roster: Cyclops, Jean as Marvel Girl, Angel, Iceman, and Beast fighting against a young Magneto and his Brotherhood of Mutants. It makes sense for timeline reasons; all of these characters beyond Beast would've been kids during the 60s, or in the case of Iceman and Angel, were not born by the 1960s. I feel like this would've worked as a great TV series with flashbacks to whenever Charles and Erik met during the 1950s within a psychiatric hospital for Holocaust victims. Fighting Hydra and revealing that they both had Mutant abilities, then going separate ways after realising their goals did not match.
But seeing Magneto as a vital part of the First Class of Mutants, along with the formation of the X-Men in this film, was a cool spin on what we know about the origins of Magneto. There isn't another rendition of the character that was a vital member of the early X-Men, thanks to Charles and Erik meeting a good decade before the X-Men were a thing. This film basically combines the meeting of Charles and Erik into the formation of the X-Men, bringing these events together as one.
Yeah, instead we get Cyclops's younger brother who is now older than him.
its amazing how perfect the roles o charles and erik cast not once but twice
31:10 "Somewhere between rage and serenity." So a memory thats both pure anger and pure happiness.
I love the dynamics or you two dissecting and commenting on these movies. I am the oldest male in a group of 21 brothers and sisters, well 20 now. Your relationship or at least what you have shared with us, is beautiful and goal for all siblings to strive for. So, you see, it's not just the movies and your comments that inspire us Cassie and Carly. Thanks for spending time with us and letting us say we have these two amazing sisters as friends that we love to hang out with and inspire us.🥰
Wow! Your mother must be made of steel!
Fun FYI. Azazel (the red devil looking teleport) and Mystique had a son together whom you've seen in X2 as the blue teleport Knightcrawler (Kurt Wagner). He got the teleporting ability and tail from Azazel, and the blue skin from Mystique.
They retconned that in the comics. Mystique basically shapeshifted into a man and impregnated her girlfriend. Doesn’t really make sense but that’s what they came up with.
@@havok6280
Good to know. Your information is obviously more up to date. Thanks 👍🏽
@@havok6280 yeah that's crap he will always be the son of Mystique and Azazel
@@havok6280 Mystic shapeshifted into Azazel and thus had Nightcrawler child with her GF. The reasoning, is when she shifts she doesnt just take their appearance, she genetically changes into that person to an extent, hence why she gets some of their abilities when she shifts as well.
Rumor is that this was the original intent and backstory the writers wanted in the first place but it was too controversial at the time. They felt now people had progressed enough to let the original intent be published. So technically the "original" was already a retcon of the writers first draft.
@@samelloweryMystique as Azazel and Destiny.
X-Men days of future past is the best x-men movie both the theatrical cut and the rogue cut
The Logan was a funny way to avoid continuation issues with the other movies, or try explaining how he could have been missed by the Cerebro search at that time.
There's basically only one part here that doesn't fit in with an earlier movie, it's in the Last Stand's callback scene when Xavier and Magneto both walk up to Jean Grey's door. That was meant to have happened later on in the '70s.
31:29 -- RE: Charles and Erik working out Erik's Issues; This is my pick for one of the best scenes in *any* of the X-Men franchise films. The grin that Erik gives at the end is both haunting and heart-breakingly joyful.
In case you didn't realize it, Moira MacTaggert (played by Rose Byrne) although a CIA agent in THIS film is a nurse in "X-Men: The Last Stand". She's in the post credit scene who gets startled when the comatose patient greets her in Xavier's voice.
I believe Prof X called her “Dr.” in that movie, so she must have progressed since First Class?
She didn't age at all over half a century.
And she picked up a European accent!
@@doughbafett Maybe it’s her daughter? :)
I overall really like this movie and think the casting of James McAvoy and especially Michael Fassbender was perfect! But my issue with it is I feel the events of this movie should have been spread out across an entire trilogy. I wish we’d gotten to see Charles and Erik develop a friendship that spanned many years before their eventual falling out. It always felt rushed to me that Erik fully became Magneto in only a single film.
I love that they didn't spin their wheels and actually told a story with a beginning and end.
I agree. Though, the more I watch this film the more it has grown on me... the first time I watched it it just felt very rushed at the end there moving Magneto and Charles, etc, into position to be the characters that they became in later films. My initial reaction was wishing that they didn't rush this and had spent at least another film exploring the developing relationship.... but.... that being said.... I would hate to lose the last few epic scenes on the beach between Eric and Charles... and that end scene with "I prefer Magneto".... chills every time... plus, the next movie, Days of Future Past, is hands down the best X film so... maybe it's better that they did it they way that they did.
Another thing that I think everyone wished for after seeing this was that they had not canceled the planned Magneto Origins movie... they could have easily stretched out the Michael Fassbender: Mutant Nazi Hunter story thread into a full length film and that would have been amazing. Too bad... missed opportunity... unfortunate that the Origins: Wolverine movie sucked so much...
37:52 “Now what?”
Honestly that got a good chuckle out of me. Can just imagine the X-Men straight up taking Shaw’s submarine back to the junkyard like a bunch of repo men
Fun fact: Nightcrawler, the teleporter in X2, is the child of Mystique and Azazel, the evil red teleporter in this movie.
My theory is that Magneto was giving Emma too much attention. Mystique has sex with Azazel out of jealousy.
In case no one’s brought this up. Both McAvoy and Fassbinder were in Band of Brothers.
Really!?! I have got to get around to watching that.
@@SummitSummit You won’t regret it. To a person, everyone says “BoB” is one of the best works of cinema they’ve seen. The fact that it’s based on real people and events adds to its impact. Enjoy and have a great life.
@@frankb4517 Oh, I am aware. Just been too afraid of the reality of it to commit to starting it. Saving Private Ryan was hard to watch and it's only a couple hours.
@@SummitSummityes it was hard. It was Way overrated. Unlike Bánd of brothers.
The original movies don't hint at Charles and Mystique because it's not from the comics and was not an idea that was made up until the writing of this movie. Its one of the major hitches in the continuity because it doesn't line up with the original movies.
how does it not line up? I mean, I'm not going to dispute that there are many major plot holes and continuity errors in the X-Men films... but... this doesn't really seem to be one of them. Just because you were friends with someone decades ago doesn't mean that you're going to be chummy forever. And... Mystique and Charles don't even interact with each other in the first three X-Men movies. I don't think they're ever even in the same room together. And I'm sure they never say anything at all about Mystique's backstory in the older films other than her once recalling that her own parents tried to kill her... which... lines up perfectly with this film as she is introduced as a child on her own scavenging for food.
Charles and Erik have the most beautiful friendship
The actors for Xavier and Magneto do their jobs fantastically. The studio did such a great job with casting in this. I look forward to your viewing of Days of Future Past.
Rachel McAdams should have been Emma Frost She's basically Regina George from Mean Girls meets Doctor Doom with superpowers which really didn't come across in first class.
That’s not remotely who Emma is.
I am so excited that you all have made it to these movies now
The "Don't touch my hair" bit is twice the gag as James McAvoy shaved his head before filming started as he thought young charles was also bald. I'm pretty sure he is wearing a wig for the whole film. 😂😂
Lucas Till the guy who plays Alex(Havok) was in the Hannah Montana movie. He was also in Taylor Swift’s music video for You Belong With Me. He was recently in a tv show called Macgyver.
When you finally get to X-Men: Days of Future Past be sure to watch the ‘Rogue Cut’ version of the film. If you watch the original/theatrical cut it’d be like skipping Lord of the Rings Extended edition.
Wow there’s that much of a difference?
There are 4 extra scenes with Rogue in them. You can quite literally cut them out of the movie with no difference to the story. Which is the version they released in theaters. @@danishhald
Not even close. The Rogue cut really doesn't add anything.
It adds Rogue.
@thatperformer3879
The “Rouge Cut” is just a bit of “Fan Service” AT BEST and 100% skippable it adds like 3-4 whole minutes of the film that adds NOTHING to the story
Watch it or don’t Watch it
It really doesn’t change the story in any significant way
The LOTR Extended Version on the other hand added like 30+ minutes (to each film) AND Added a Ton of answers/exposition as well as great Character conclusions.
So comparing the “Rouge Cut” to the LOTR Extended Versions is like comparing Apples to Bowling Balls.
I get it, you like Rogue, but be real, it adds NOTHING to the film.
It’s interesting to see that Erik had only been able to use his powers when he focused on negative emotions like anger. However, after meeting Charles he realized he could also use positive emotions from happier times in his youth. In a way, it’s almost like learning how to use the Force.
Overall, James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender did a fantastic job portraying the younger versions of Charles and Erik. They did their best to portray two characters that Sir Patrick Stewart and Sir lan McKellen had already established.
Both Charles and Erik delivered good arguments, especially when they were playing chess for the first time (which is also a callback to the end of the first movie). Neither side is entirely right or wrong. It almost feels like Steve and Tony in Civil War. There are humans who would accept them and be more than willing to coexist, but there are also many who would fear and oppose them.
Darwin’s nickname is based on the theory of evolution called Darwinism which English naturalist Charles Darwin took part in establishing.
Lucas Till always wanted to portray a superhero, but he jokingly said he didn’t want to portray Beast because he didn’t want to go through all that makeup. Lucas instead got Alex Summers/Havok while Nicolas Hoult ended up getting Hank McCoy/Beast.
This movie was directed by Matthew Vaughn. He also worked on the Kick-Ass and Kingsman movies. In fact, after this Matthew would go on to direct the first Kingsman movie The Secret Service which I recommend.
Up next is The Wolverine 2013 followed by X-Men: Days of Future Past. I’m letting you know ahead of time that both of them have extended editions. You’d have to rent them both, but you’ll benefit from getting more out of them especially with the extended edition of Days of Future Past. That one delves further into the story.
Cass and Carls so sharp at wit, dot connecting plot points and previous references,
quick in the uptake more than ever now, real treat this was.
Not only is Raven/Mystique Xavier's sister in the comics, the Juggernaut in the comics is his half brother and was given his powers from an Aztec god to essentially be indestructible.
Unfortunately we've never had a movie based entirely around him
Mystique isn't Xavier's sister in the comics, only the movies. And Cyttorak, who gave Juggernaut his powers, isn't an Aztec god - Juggernaut found his temple in Korea.
@@moreau1755 it depends which version you're talking about, because the oldest version I'm aware it is an Aztec god when his step brother is exploring the Amazon
@@the98themperoroftheholybri33 No, you are wrong. It was Korea in the very first appearance of Juggernaut in X-Men #12 in 1965. And it has stayed consistently Korea ever since - it's never been the Amazon, nor Aztec.
I believe The Wolverine is next and then Days of Future Past.
Please watch the directors cut of The Wolverine, it's much better than the theatrical cut. DOFP is my fav Xmen movie. It's phenomenal.
I can't believe I didn't notice "Boris the Blade/The Bullet Dodger" in this before. From "Snatch".
The girl who played Moira ( CIA agent in the underwear ) is an Australian actress named Rose Byrne
3:45 The Ironic Tragedy of Magneto is that he's seen the worst parts of human prejudice, and wants to defend himself and his people from it. But the thing that makes him a villain is that he turned into a *supremacist*. Planning to put Mutants on top of Humans, and then lead the new 'Master Race'. He came full circle.
One of the most tragic scenes from the comics is when Magneto takes Kitty Pryde (also Jewish) to a holocaust memorial event and they're kicked out because he's a mutant (to be fair, a known terrorist mutant but he had temporarily reformed at that point).
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I can't condemn that. When someone tries to punch you or kill you, you have the right to do the same to them. When humanity hurts you every way possible for what you are, I say you're 1000% justified in doing the exact same thing back.
His push for "supremacy" is only what's been done to him, to all mutants. You can't condemn his mutant push without condemning the push from mundanes first,, and if he's a villain for his actions, not only does that make all mundanes villains also, how much WORSE villains are we since we started it??
@@Aeroldoth3 The problem comes from thinking tribally, in collective absolutes. Not ALL of humanity has hurt mutants, and even some who have might be forgiven for doing small harms out of ignorance rather than large ones out of callousness or malice. Just like not ALL mutants need to be feared and controlled. Treating everyone as individuals responsible for their own actions is the way forward and through.
@@Aeroldoth3It's never cut and dry like that. White people brought blacks from Africa to be slaves and white people fought and died to end slavery. White people enacted Jim Crow laws to keep blacks down and white people passed civil rights legislation to end Jim Crow. You can't blame an entire group of people for what some of them did, nor give an entire group of people credit for what some of them did. Magneto is a villain because of the same all-or-nothing thinking that led to the Holocaust.
I know this is very political but zionist has same mentality as magneto. Because of what German did to German Jews, they assume Muslim gonna do the same with them. What funny thing is Muslim has been protecting Jewish in Palestine since Muslim won Jerusalem. It's all happened when zionist was born and thus when zionist was given opportunity by POTUS, they are doing same shit to Palestine because they saw Palestinian as their enemy.
P:S not all Palestinian are Muslim, there's a Christian Palestinian too......
The kid who could adapt to anything was done dirty in this, they removed him from the movie cause he would solo the bad guys otherwise😅
Then they should've never included him. It's a slap in the face to those of us who actually know about these characters and their abilities. You can tell that as far as these two young ladies are concerned, it was just another death.
@@akbarshabazz-jenkins7847 Yep same for me until I stumbled on a hulk video which explained this character since the two met
@@inquisitive6786 I just wonder if, once they reach DoFP, they'll realize the two different Bolivar Trasks in the storyline without some simp pointing it out for them lol
This is one of my favorites. I love how it shows the respect and friendship between Erik and Charles. They're not exactly bitter rivals who despise each other. They just have very different viewpoints and motives and can't seem to see eye to eye. That was shown a little throughout the other movies but here we see that they really do care about each other.
How did i never notice Hank copping a feel on the mannequin at 30:42 😅😅
Killing Darwin in that way was one of the dumbest choices ever. The scene should have been “Adapt to this” “alright bet” Darwin is absolutely OP
I like to believe they "couldn't even bury him" because he is still adapting. But he never shows up again, so...
My theory is that he did adapt. That was Havocs energy which technically dont havs a physical form so he adapted an as energy and is still existing
@thatnerd I understand the principle just feels like waste of great character. As said if there was going to be some one that could constantly get stronger its the guy in theory that should be able to adapt to anything. So they killed him off before he would become too op.
I thought they were building him up to make a return in the final battle or that he was used in Days of the Future Past to develop the sentinels but he never reappeared
Wishful thinking me. Maaaybe he could finally return in this latest upcoming version of X-Men.
Kevin Bacon grabs grenade: "But I will."
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Those ads are deliberately placed in such moments to intentionally disrupt us
You two are just the sweetest, funnest company to rewatch my favourite films with. Keep it up! Happy summer solstice!
The guy from Hannah Montana movie that Carly mention is Lucas Till. He was in Taylor Swift music video!
He also played the new (now canceled) MacGuyver.
For the life of me I never understood why Darwin wasn't able to adapt and survive.
cause he got what he deserved.
Plot point, lack of experience regarding his powers and how to fight especially against someone whose more experienced and knowledgeable when it comes to understanding mutants like Shaw and most of all Darwin was a side character.
@@lirpa2300 valid but his power is reflexive. He shouldn't have to think on how to adapt, his body should just do it.
I do agree on your story points however.
I LOVED how this series started. This one and DOFP are probably my favorite of the whole series. The next one is gonna be a doozie for these two!
21:24 hilarious. I loved it. And logically Logan wouldn’t remember two guys from 30 years ago, especially when they looked radically different.
Trivia: Azazel the Red Devil & Mystique are parents of Nightcrawler from X-2 the blue teleporter
They retconned this, Mystique was Nightcrawler's father now
@@richardludwig9814 that’s weird and I don’t accept it u can’t make me
Them killing Darwin that way was the biggest travesty of this movie in my opinion. Dude has survived way worse than that. Dude survived the death touch from Hela a literal goddess of death. Absorbed her powers and became a God of death himself.
I kept waiting for an after credits stinger where he coalesces into an being made of pure energy back in the courtyard where he "died", showing that he did adapt it just took him a bit to pull himself back together.
@KyleStroudVA I would've really liked that
Funny, too, how Shaw looked directly at Darwin when making the "slave" comment.
I believe Emma Frost (Diamond girl) was written initially as a villain so it's not exactly her being loyal to Shaw, just that they have the same goals.
they clearly share similar goals and vision. Though she does, in addition, seem to be something of a willing sub in whatever kind of relationship they've got going on.
Emma Frost is Logan's Sister in law that was captured by Striker
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The unrated version of the Wolverine is a better film
@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn Same with Days of Future Past Rogue Cut
@@joshuacampbell7493yes
The end credit scene is pretty pointless in that
The reason the helmet looks weird on Kevin Bacon is because it was only fitted for Micheal Fassbender's head. Kevin hated wearing the helmet which is why he ad libbed the line "at least I can take this silly thing off" during the second act fight scene. That's why when Fassbender puts on the helmet, it fits like a condom.
They spent multiple millions of dollars to make this film and couldn't afford more helmets?
@@akbarshabazz-jenkins7847 In-universe there was only one helmet. It had to custom-designed for one person.
@@Mark-in8ju Well, then, why wouldn't it be designed to fit the first person wearing it and for the longer amount of time?
Fun fact: First Class isn't the only film in which Kevin Bacon plays a villain named Sebastian. In the film The Hollow Man (2000), you will be able to see him (or not, eheh) play the scientist Sebastian Caine, who goes crazy with his own work.
Again, remember that the continuity in these fox movies are not linked to the original 3 for the most part. Mystique was not Charles childhood friend in the original 3 movies that was just for the First Class and on. Also, Emma “Diamond girl” Frost was Lynn’s sister in Origins: Wolverine but she’s not in this movie. Resist the urge of trying to reference what you see in these films with what you saw in the original 3 movies.
Azazel is the birth father of Nightcrawler and his mother is Mystique
And always will be no mater what a bunch of activists say.
@@samelloweryI mean that’s not how reality works but go off with ya ignorance in a series entirely about fighting ignorance
I’m sorry that two moms upset you so much. For those that don’t know it was recently revealed it was Mystique, a shape shifter, acted as the father for her wife so they could have a kid. The kid turned out to be Nightcrawler
@@hobbes6392 yeah no but whatever works for you let's see DC and Marvel together make up what 9% of comics being sold while Manga makes up the rest they are dead and it was retcons like that that killed it.
@@samellowery You mean no matter what Chris Claremont says, aka the creator of Mystique and Nightcrawler as we know him? You realize that Azazel being Nightcrawler's father is also a retcon, right?
@@samellowery they're always ret-conning stories and characters in comics... nothing new... sometimes for political reasons or to change with the times or send some kind of message... other times... just... because different writers/editors have different ideas... better get used to that if you like comics.
But, you can also get used to comic book fans and readers being divided on whether or not these ret-cons are good or not... personally I find this one to be pretty stupid, but, hey, that's just like, my opinion, man...
When I saw this in theaters, the line "They were just following orders!" I just groaned loudly. NEVER tell a Holocaust survivor that. I knew Magneto was going to snap when he said that.
31:53 and that’s an original speech by Kennedy using original TV footage.
Also, that makes you wonder what other events in the 20th century mutants played a role in.
The members of the Inner Circle are Sebastian Shaw, Emma Frost, Azazel, Riptide.
My favorite non Logan X-men movie.
You really should watch the new show Xmen '97. Its a continuation of the Xmen animated show in the 90s but you really dont need to watch that to watch the new show. Its so well written and if you have a basic understanding of the characters you will love it.
It's also EXTREMELY confusing and rushed unless you have extensive knowledge of X-Men lore. That can be fun too but let's be real, it's a bit of a mess. They introduce new and HEAVY plot points and forget about them in the span of minutes, multiple times lol.
If you remember the post credits of X3 Professor X calls the doctor Moira. This is young Moira when they first meet
Wait until you see "Days of Future Past". There will definitely be brains exploding as you see the two timeline casts appear in the same film!
Definitely one of the better entries in the franchise! 😊
If you (and maybe Carly) ultimately decide to watch X Men 97 but not the original show, I would recommend at least watching a recap video of it. The channel ScreenCrush made a very in depth one. It’s almost 40 minutes but definitely shorter than 76 episodes
Please do! Screen crush and new rockstars have good enough recaps and X-Men 97 really is the best X-Men outside of the comics
They can also just watch the official Disney+ recap video that plays before the first episode. Its not that long, but it has the bullet points.
@@acidrain92 yeah but that’s like super basic points. Sentinels, magneto & asteroid M, Mr Sinister origin, finale. Where’s Apocalypse, Rogue and Gambit, Cable, Phoenix, etc?