Does all the ammo stack the same (i.e. is it linked to caliber)? I mean how many spare rounds you can carry in your safe container has a lot to say for us poor casual players :)
I should've clarified, I hate they they nerfed it and didn't change the price to account for it, its a useless round unless you're trying to snipe and don't already know your ranges
Nothing should 1 shot a boss. Maybe a GL? Other than that its the whole point of them being a "boss". If they were that easy it would be to easy to farm....wait it already is to easy! shit
@@joncheek7063 the concept of a boss doesn't go well with a game like EFT, some are already stupidly absurd as they are now (I once shot 22 5.56 bullets to Sanitar without killing him!) and simply unfair to fight without cheesing them or trying to play around the AI breaking the immersion into the game. No human should be able to tank a bullet like that to the head (or any bullet to the head in general but whatever...)
@@joncheek7063 bro the boss health pool has to make sense within the game of tarkov. bullet sponge bosses in tarkov makes absolutely NO sense at all. this is why sanitar is considered the hardest and most annoying. he will tank and entire mag of BS rounds to the chest when he can just two tap you with his VAL. it's not balanced
Bro this game used to be alot closer to real-life. In terms of ballistics and how it works against armor. Now well.. the casuals cried so the casuals got whay they wanted
I’m glad I stopped playing, twitch brought the wrong crowd to this game and you can tell in creative design philosophy in regards to change from community feedback. Haven’t played in a a year now and I’m not that upset over it.
@@L3THALXFOX It wasn't the casuals that cried. It was the hardcore Chads that cried that they could be 1 shot in their 200k R helmets. Remember when they added the Mosin? It wasn't the casuals that cried. It was the Chads that now couldn't just fucking steamroll everybody that didn't play 60 hrs a week.
So I'm in my first month of playing tarkov and have already fell in love with the SR-25 and SA-58 Juice Cannon running M61. I struggled a bit when starting this game but I met some great friends who showed me a John Wick-like meta that I never want to stop using lol. Even if my traders ect aren't leveled enough yet to make it viable for myself, I love it
Another factor to keep in mind is that M62 has a negative recoil factor, which makes it very nice in the FAL and MDR. Just another reason why M62 is still a competitive round even after the penetration nerf.
@@agpiplup288 @Jay Palsha I know, 8 months ago, I am a big fan of this series :-). But some of 5.45 behaved strange back then (registering two hits for example ) , and dev's said they fix that. So I'm interested to see how 5.45 preforms now, especially since we have new armors as well. I would love to see an update just like this is an update of .308 :-)
@@ivar1482 that was last wipe with igolnik, they fixed that, but I think the bullets are good this patch, aks right now handles as If you were a child welding it
@@Shamanthebstard 4 nixxor lenses barter trade from mechanic level4. You can sell the suppressor and stock back to him and mod it. This way meta sa-58 costs about about 140-160k.
I've actually survived a m61 to the bastion with a slap was crazy and everyone is saying it's broken now but it's always been like that, now everyone is just noticing it cause it's the best pen round for that caliber and is being used always
Its because m993 is worse than m61 and you can craft m61 in hideout, I only say its worse because once you get over 60 pen there is no difference in penetration power and m993 has less damage
@@Yashatheseal 993 has better pen(which is negligible as u said), armor damage, and muzzle velocity. It is also only 3 less damage soooo yea.... 993 is the superior round and I lucked into some cheap ammo. I paid 2100 a round for 120 993. Let me know the next time you can buy it that low on flea. Yesterday it was 5k+ a round. So cool tho that u have the confidence to come in here and try to blatantly mislead newer players.
M61 is better in most cases though, the difference in penetration is negligible, and due to the fact that even M61 pens class 6 on first hit pretty much the same as 993 (2% chance difference) the higher Armor damage is actually useless (or even bad, because you will destroy the Armor of someone you shoot more as you kill them) and the 3 lower damage is the difference between oneshotting bosses with 70 head hp and not oneshotting them with a headshot. Objectively M61 is better aside from long range shooting, where the quite significantly higher velocity of 993 can help quite a bit. For super long range shots that require zeroing though 993 is worse again, since the zeroing is relative to the "standard" ammunition velocity of the gun, which for all 7.62x51 guns is M61, meaning M993 will shoot high at ultra long range if you use zeroing. The only reason M993 is more expensive is because it's less available (no trader buy option) and more rare to find in raid.
@@drewbienewbie03xx81 It is not though. You're trading the ability to 1 tap Shturman, Glukhar and Sanitar and working zeroing against a 2% extra chance to penetrate a full class 6 armor on the first hit and slightly better velocity.
M61 can't either. Killas head has 70 hp, M61 has 70 damage, when a round penetrates significant Armor it loses damage, meaning if you hit Killa in the face shield you will likely only deal somewhere around 65 damage to his head, which won't kill him. It does make a big difference against Glukhar, Shturman and Sanitar though, since M61 will 1 shot headtap them, and 993 won't.
I'd like to see a video about fragmentation, if it is still bugged and what the sleeper ammos are that circumvent those bugs. There are some few ammos out there, that look sleeper good, but I do not know if they are working as intended right now (as is with lots of the stuff in this endless beta ;)
Hey i noticed you were testing the helmets at semi-random angles which is likely messing up your results. Every helmet has a ricochet chance and a specific angle of impact in which that ricochet is strongest. You could probably do an entire video on that.
If a round performs as it should according to real world armor testing (m61) then it's not broken, however M62 shouldn't do as well as it does, it's a regular ball tracer, so should be on par with M80. Also M62 trace is red not green . You can either have "balanced" gameplay or realistic. With 308 you hold less rounds, it's heavier, the recoil is chunkier etc. Some guns are just better than others same with calibers
ur jokeing right lastnight i had killa helm/armor on and i got 1 tap in the head with PS ammo Tell me whats thye fucking point on speding over 400k on armor/helm to die by PS ammo
@@jarrudam3698 check the hitboxes. The helmets doesnt protect what you see, but what is described to protect it. Many helmets look like the protect the jaws, when in fact they dont. So you basecally have 0 armor there. Jaws and ears arent protected in most cases by helmets. There are some videos you might want to check about it
I got a waist bag in my scav box tonight. Wiki says it’s not in the game but I have one. The image won’t load like the .45 ap round didn’t load last wipe. It works just like an alpha container. Ragman offers 9k for it. Is this an item I shouldn’t have or what?
@@killerbas40 still the cheapest option for something with that much firepower and whisper quiet over 100m. also really helps with the recoil to make it a better dmr. but just my $0.02
@@Aupexx i get what you mean, i actually bought and used it. Was happily surprised the vepr including surpressor didnt even get looted twice when i died, retrieved it with insurance. Gonna run it way more often now
m993 and m62 are simply not worth the price, so if you have money and wanna get a good round, ALWAYS always always pick m61 if you want a budget round pick m80 there is absolutely no reason to pick any other round
M80 is decent for new player on a budget, it's really cheap, very early to access and will still 1 tap basically every helmet and face shield that people will run besides Altyn/ Ryst (which are becoming more and more rare to see, because they're becoming pointless due to how many people use M61/ M995 etc now so hearing is favoured). And M62 has a right to exist because tracers are nice for long range sniping if you're not used to the drop yet. But yeah if you can afford M61 there's no point to run anything else
No...the ammo damage is what it is regardless of the gun u are using...the velocity/drop will be effected between barrel lengths and some guns as well...DVL for instance will put m993 over 1000 meters per second but something like an RSAS will be under somewhere around 900 if I remember correctly
thats the reason why i quit in the first place they never will balance this ammo/armor system. I remember when summit just destroyed max gear guys with a pistol just cuz BiS ammo...
Idk if the game is bugged, but it seems to be completely worthless depending on the gun. M61 from an MDR, 2 taps killa to chest, one tap helmet. I tried it in an SA-58, killa took 17 fucking hits, at least 5 of them being headshots, and lived, constistently, in offline raids and online. Anyone else had this issue? It's not just me because my mate had the same problem. The fuck is going on?
I have never had this be the case, it could be due to you hitting stomach instead of thorax and you just arent hitting headshots. Because the way the game is coded the gun has no effect on the penetration power of a round, so it must just be human error
if anyones interested the RUclips channel Oxide is doing armor tests on Russian helmets and armor, alot of them being in EFT. you get to see how the real armor works in real life
Well, M61 is also a weird Ammo, can tap a Scav two times in the Chest and he will just go on about his day as if nothing has happend. I stopped playing 7.62x51, but if i do i choose M80, its still the best Round for some Reason. At least i can oneshot Scavs, Chads dont die anyway because of shitloads of stims, no matter which ammo i use. I dont understand their way of doing Ammo, also the new 556 Ammo, instead of spreading out existing Ammo they add new ones, 545 still lacks a 855A1 equivalent, and AKs i genereal are pretty useless.
I craft it almost exclusively, the only other thing I craft is red gpowder in order to craft more M61. Bottom load 10 M62, and top load 10 M61 with my RSASS and it absolutely rips.
@@MrMinimerlin personally I just buy the M61 cuz I have it unlocked. Have you tried the unsuppressed RSASS ? Using the dual muzzle brake you'd normally put on a meta FAL ? So good..sounds amazing unsuppressed...and is a laser when you spam fire
@@jonathanlebon9705 Yeah if I’m running dorms, resort or aggressive on interchange, I’ll use the BMD with a pk06 or delta point. Otherwise I use the TLok and a HAMR, the gun is almost flawless I love it
Not op at all, have you ever seen one, totally realistic how it performs. Though for example 9x19 7n31, where it does the damage of some rifle rounds is insane.
Agree I just started this wipe ( wasn't gona play this wipe) was running around woods with a shot gun doing the introduction quest to get jaeger killed a scav with Bel SA, had bpz in it. As I went to outskirts for extract a PMC was.sniping on some rocks, 1 tapped him in the head, level 50 wearing an exfil helm. Came out with snow ball loot off him. Though hard starting this late in the wipe lots of thicc Bois running around ATM
@@frozen4blade313 easier to start mid to late wipe. Cost of low level quest items are drastically cheaper and the loot u find on kills is markedly better.
No, in fact M62 got nerfed this wipe. It's just the top ammunition (well 7.62x54R has better rounds, but the guns firing it can not get anywhere near as good as 7.62x51 guns) and now that it's late wipe with every second player running slicks the rounds that will ignore a slick become more prominent
It doesn’t make sense to have such a gap from M80 and M62 being so similar and then M61 pen’ing everything. M62 needs to be the middle ground of M80 and M61.
This is my first wipe and im alrrady tired of the fact that i have to run altyn and loose my sound or some other super expensive helmet with faceshield just so i dont get one shotted from 50m by 7.5 buckshot... i also hate the breathing sound... kinda annoying
So is this video demonstrating and you are saying the armor class of a helmet without a face shield actually matters??? I was under the impression that all helmets no matter the armor class were the same and only had a ricochet chance rmed/high etc and unless you were wearing a face shield if u didn’t get the ricochet all helmets were the same. So this isn’t true or? I’m now veryyyy confused as to how helmets work with seeing this footage
I swear to God, one round exists that's under 3000rub each can penetrate armor decently and all the Tarkov streamers get upset. Just contributes to the meta chad issue.
Idea @vox_e. (Would love to see detailed analysis on most weapons/ammo on range/velocity/bullet drop maybe damage fall off ect! 300 meter shot compared to 100 is just crazy and don’t make sense between all ammo variations!). These things are what make your brain go HUHHH when u die after mag dumping! Lmfao realizing shit I saw Altyn and slick didn’t I? FUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKK! Also agree round like M61/M993-7.62 should be behind a some sort of achievement with in game! Make the GREAT META ammo not so abundant! This way survivability goes up all together! People not just running great ammo/shit gun to 2 tap everyone!
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10.62x51?!?!? 0:03
@@onetyone7359 bruh
Does all the ammo stack the same (i.e. is it linked to caliber)? I mean how many spare rounds you can carry in your safe container has a lot to say for us poor casual players :)
@@FPLMikkel no, only the exact same ammo stacks.
“M61 just destroys everything “ unless it’s me thoraxing a scav 4 times and just leaving because I don’t want to waste any more ammo lol
@@waxdood That’s some nice observational comedy there
Yep happened to me yesterday. Took me 4/5 shot to down a scav with armor lv3 kirasa.
Its called Over penetration
wrong
@@michaelsturrock1750 you’re a year behind bud. 😂
I am still mad about the M62 nerf. It used to have about 50 pen, but it's price haven't changed.
It's just m80 with a tracer now and I hate it
@@cavemanbonk8320 That's what it is irl
@@cavemanbonk8320 Thats exactly what it is.
I should've clarified, I hate they they nerfed it and didn't change the price to account for it, its a useless round unless you're trying to snipe and don't already know your ranges
M62 never should have been that good, irl it's just m80 with a tracer in fact it should be *slightly* worse
M993 biggest drawback is that it will not 1shot some of the bosses with an headshot because they have 70Hp
Nothing should 1 shot a boss. Maybe a GL? Other than that its the whole point of them being a "boss". If they were that easy it would be to easy to farm....wait it already is to easy! shit
@@joncheek7063 disagree, large caliber ap rounds should always 1 shot to the head, without a helmet you should be able to 1 tap a boss with a makarov
@@joncheek7063 the concept of a boss doesn't go well with a game like EFT, some are already stupidly absurd as they are now (I once shot 22 5.56 bullets to Sanitar without killing him!) and simply unfair to fight without cheesing them or trying to play around the AI breaking the immersion into the game.
No human should be able to tank a bullet like that to the head (or any bullet to the head in general but whatever...)
@@joncheek7063 bro the boss health pool has to make sense within the game of tarkov. bullet sponge bosses in tarkov makes absolutely NO sense at all. this is why sanitar is considered the hardest and most annoying. he will tank and entire mag of BS rounds to the chest when he can just two tap you with his VAL. it's not balanced
@@titus17 sanitar is easy as fuck dude
Seriously though have you seen a 308 round in real life, penetraion or not, getting hit in the head with one of those is gonna put you to sleep
Bro this game used to be alot closer to real-life. In terms of ballistics and how it works against armor. Now well.. the casuals cried so the casuals got whay they wanted
@@L3THALXFOX i know we got a lot of cry babies that play this game
I’m glad I stopped playing, twitch brought the wrong crowd to this game and you can tell in creative design philosophy in regards to change from community feedback. Haven’t played in a a year now and I’m not that upset over it.
@@CorruptInfinityOfficial EmuTarkov still one hell of a nice time tho.
@@L3THALXFOX It wasn't the casuals that cried. It was the hardcore Chads that cried that they could be 1 shot in their 200k R helmets. Remember when they added the Mosin? It wasn't the casuals that cried. It was the Chads that now couldn't just fucking steamroll everybody that didn't play 60 hrs a week.
So I'm in my first month of playing tarkov and have already fell in love with the SR-25 and SA-58 Juice Cannon running M61. I struggled a bit when starting this game but I met some great friends who showed me a John Wick-like meta that I never want to stop using lol. Even if my traders ect aren't leveled enough yet to make it viable for myself, I love it
Honestly what they need to do to fix the ammunition complaints is to make the armor protect as it should with the updated GOST-R standard of 2017.
Yes
Can’t wait for the ricochet video I’ve been wanting a in-depth video talking about it
Another factor to keep in mind is that M62 has a negative recoil factor, which makes it very nice in the FAL and MDR. Just another reason why M62 is still a competitive round even after the penetration nerf.
I don'tl like m62, I prefear the 2 tap of m61.
its hot garbage the chance for lvl 5 to stop it sucks, decent material level 5 shrugs off enough m62 to make me not wanna use it anymore.
Shh , don't tell them , you just make my RFB price sky rocket , it was 38 k roubles yesterday and now 50 k roubles man .
Can we get 5.45 please! Thank you!
He already did a video on 545
He did it go check it out
@@agpiplup288 @Jay Palsha I know, 8 months ago, I am a big fan of this series :-). But some of 5.45 behaved strange back then (registering two hits for example
) , and dev's said they fix that. So I'm interested to see how 5.45 preforms now, especially since we have new armors as well. I would love to see an update just like this is an update of .308 :-)
@@ivar1482 that was last wipe with igolnik, they fixed that, but I think the bullets are good this patch, aks right now handles as If you were a child welding it
@@ivar1482 5.45 desperately needs a rework IMO,
What I get from this is - bastion with slaap tingy is really good helmet
Yes but it repairs very badly
Great helmet saved me from mang one taps last wipe
I want to believe that it's good but I ran that helmet 3 times in a row yesterday and got head eyesed every raid
@@totallytoads8447 welp, slaap don't cover eyes now does it, so not much corelation here.
for 200k just run an altyn
Shot my mate in the head with m80 out of a SR-25 on a 6b47 Class 3 helmet, richochet, same with the level 2 trooper face shield, trolly
SA58 with 50 round mags and the cheap ammo is a decent setup for the price, good budget kit. Especially with the 4 x camera lens barter
What lens barter are you speaking of?
@@Shamanthebstard 4 nixxor lenses barter trade from mechanic level4. You can sell the suppressor and stock back to him and mod it. This way meta sa-58 costs about about 140-160k.
Ya exactly I normally run the suppressors on something else. It's pretty fun have had some nice runs with it even with the rubbish ammo
"im gonna be starting off with a wide variety of rounds here" every single round for 7.62x51
I think whats broken is ammo availability, if a round is intended to be super dominating, it shouldnt be sold by traders or made craftable.
Amazing work as always Vox.
Whatching these video now I just want to run hex or slick
And even that your not safe from a naked hunter runner with M61.
and then you just get 2 tapped lol
L E G M E T A
Hex and slick are just butter in front of M61
@@impc8265 they get, 2 tapped anyway
I wish they gave M61 like 58 Pen to give M993 that top tier slot still
no
I've actually survived a m61 to the bastion with a slap was crazy and everyone is saying it's broken now but it's always been like that, now everyone is just noticing it cause it's the best pen round for that caliber and is being used always
Played with the m1a yesterday n I'm in love. Was shocked to see m993 cheaper than m61
Its because m993 is worse than m61 and you can craft m61 in hideout, I only say its worse because once you get over 60 pen there is no difference in penetration power and m993 has less damage
@@Yashatheseal 993 has better pen(which is negligible as u said), armor damage, and muzzle velocity. It is also only 3 less damage soooo yea.... 993 is the superior round and I lucked into some cheap ammo. I paid 2100 a round for 120 993. Let me know the next time you can buy it that low on flea. Yesterday it was 5k+ a round. So cool tho that u have the confidence to come in here and try to blatantly mislead newer players.
M61 is better in most cases though, the difference in penetration is negligible, and due to the fact that even M61 pens class 6 on first hit pretty much the same as 993 (2% chance difference) the higher Armor damage is actually useless (or even bad, because you will destroy the Armor of someone you shoot more as you kill them) and the 3 lower damage is the difference between oneshotting bosses with 70 head hp and not oneshotting them with a headshot.
Objectively M61 is better aside from long range shooting, where the quite significantly higher velocity of 993 can help quite a bit.
For super long range shots that require zeroing though 993 is worse again, since the zeroing is relative to the "standard" ammunition velocity of the gun, which for all 7.62x51 guns is M61, meaning M993 will shoot high at ultra long range if you use zeroing.
The only reason M993 is more expensive is because it's less available (no trader buy option) and more rare to find in raid.
@@_YellovvJacket_ simply put 993 is better than any other 7.62x51 round.
@@drewbienewbie03xx81 It is not though. You're trading the ability to 1 tap Shturman, Glukhar and Sanitar and working zeroing against a 2% extra chance to penetrate a full class 6 armor on the first hit and slightly better velocity.
another important factoid is that m61 is the only ammo here that can 1 shot killa through his faceshield, m993 doesnt have enough flesh
M61 can't either. Killas head has 70 hp, M61 has 70 damage, when a round penetrates significant Armor it loses damage, meaning if you hit Killa in the face shield you will likely only deal somewhere around 65 damage to his head, which won't kill him.
It does make a big difference against Glukhar, Shturman and Sanitar though, since M61 will 1 shot headtap them, and 993 won't.
I'd like to see a video about fragmentation, if it is still bugged and what the sleeper ammos are that circumvent those bugs. There are some few ammos out there, that look sleeper good, but I do not know if they are working as intended right now (as is with lots of the stuff in this endless beta ;)
Hey i noticed you were testing the helmets at semi-random angles which is likely messing up your results. Every helmet has a ricochet chance and a specific angle of impact in which that ricochet is strongest. You could probably do an entire video on that.
Yeah using compass to have a perfect angle like 30°/45° could be worth.
Good video man. Keep up the good work.
Holy corona. M61 consistency surprised me. New std for me coming.
The usual quality content lad
If a round performs as it should according to real world armor testing (m61) then it's not broken, however M62 shouldn't do as well as it does, it's a regular ball tracer, so should be on par with M80. Also M62 trace is red not green . You can either have "balanced" gameplay or realistic.
With 308 you hold less rounds, it's heavier, the recoil is chunkier etc. Some guns are just better than others same with calibers
Why nerf M62 but not M61?
Would be nice to analyze the bullet velocity, drop etc on the lapua ammunition
looks like we need to do this again since this round now should do more dammage to armor then before so we might be trimming off a shot on m80 and m61
It's crazy seeing how much damage a good helmet will take.
ur jokeing right lastnight i had killa helm/armor on and i got 1 tap in the head with PS ammo Tell me whats thye fucking point on speding over 400k on armor/helm to die by PS ammo
@@jarrudam3698 you probably had to get shot at least 6 to 7 times in the head to even have a chance of dying to that lmao
@@jarrudam3698 well the helmet it’s self is lvl4 and ps has 32 pen so it has a small chance to pen like maybe 5%?
@@jarrudam3698 check the hitboxes. The helmets doesnt protect what you see, but what is described to protect it. Many helmets look like the protect the jaws, when in fact they dont. So you basecally have 0 armor there. Jaws and ears arent protected in most cases by helmets.
There are some videos you might want to check about it
I got a waist bag in my scav box tonight. Wiki says it’s not in the game but I have one. The image won’t load like the .45 ap round didn’t load last wipe. It works just like an alpha container. Ragman offers 9k for it. Is this an item I shouldn’t have or what?
This is exactly why I only run suppressed hunters. Super cheap super consistent
respect
I couldnt get myself to lay down 80k for a surpressor if im going budget
@@killerbas40 you get them quiet often by scav running
@@killerbas40 still the cheapest option for something with that much firepower and whisper quiet over 100m. also really helps with the recoil to make it a better dmr. but just my $0.02
@@Aupexx i get what you mean, i actually bought and used it. Was happily surprised the vepr including surpressor didnt even get looted twice when i died, retrieved it with insurance. Gonna run it way more often now
m993 and m62 are simply not worth the price, so if you have money and wanna get a good round, ALWAYS always always pick m61
if you want a budget round pick m80
there is absolutely no reason to pick any other round
You should test the ash 12 round
I can't see the bullet spreads on my phone screen on the wall. Can you zoom in on them a little. Most of your videos I watch mobile.
CAMPIONAS as always brother. thanks for great vid
now i know what to do dorms with, a hunter VPO and some M61
In a AVS level 4 rig I survived 4 shots to the thorax and killed them they had a SR-25 with m62
Didn’t even do arbor testing with 993. Smh how am I supposed to know what it will pen???
Wait, there are people that actually use m80 and m62?
m80s 3 dollars from peacekeeper, thats like less than 200 roubles a round
@@julmdamaslefttoe3559 that's over 300 roubles...
@@julmdamaslefttoe3559 I mean, it's not really a good round when you have m61 as an option
M80 is decent for new player on a budget, it's really cheap, very early to access and will still 1 tap basically every helmet and face shield that people will run besides Altyn/ Ryst (which are becoming more and more rare to see, because they're becoming pointless due to how many people use M61/ M995 etc now so hearing is favoured).
And M62 has a right to exist because tracers are nice for long range sniping if you're not used to the drop yet.
But yeah if you can afford M61 there's no point to run anything else
Does the ammo do all the damage or does the gun do some damage like between the Adar and m4 also like with longer barrels do different damage
No...the ammo damage is what it is regardless of the gun u are using...the velocity/drop will be effected between barrel lengths and some guns as well...DVL for instance will put m993 over 1000 meters per second but something like an RSAS will be under somewhere around 900 if I remember correctly
test melee vs armour and helmets pls!
that is why m62 is so damn expensive..
it isn't
@@kungfu3299 agrre not for mewith 100m
@@PedrovoriskAB dude, peacekeeper sells it for 5$ a bullet...
@@kungfu3299 yeah but u cant buy it all the time..
@@PedrovoriskAB No, you can buy like 250 per 2 hours. As if you are going to use more :P
FINALLY someone talking about it
They should really consider putting a new 7.62x39 round in with more pen even if it had slightly less damage than bp. Sort of like igolnik
didnt show m993 on class 4 armors???
I'd rather use M61 over M993 any day not just because of the price, but because of it's potential to one shot Scav Bosses.
are you doing your armor guide still??
Can you do ash12 ammo next?
thats the reason why i quit in the first place they never will balance this ammo/armor system. I remember when summit just destroyed max gear guys with a pistol just cuz BiS ammo...
headshot meta boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii l2p n00b lol stop crai when dai
What is the name of the first weapon of this video and also the scope of it?
The bolt action? It's the DVL with a Valday scope
@@arynlupini5887 thxx bro
Accuracy barely matter on the distances we can snipe in tarkov, unfortunately
Idk if the game is bugged, but it seems to be completely worthless depending on the gun. M61 from an MDR, 2 taps killa to chest, one tap helmet. I tried it in an SA-58, killa took 17 fucking hits, at least 5 of them being headshots, and lived, constistently, in offline raids and online. Anyone else had this issue? It's not just me because my mate had the same problem. The fuck is going on?
I have never had this be the case, it could be due to you hitting stomach instead of thorax and you just arent hitting headshots. Because the way the game is coded the gun has no effect on the penetration power of a round, so it must just be human error
so is m80 viable?
Jesus m80 is nuts why does no one use it
I do I run it with a supposed m1a also when using an tx 15 dml I run m856a1 that ammo is insane and fairly underated
@@lagsalot640 if only I had the money to build either of those guns lol
Do not use m62 it sucks hit registration is kinda bugged, use m80 or m61 personal experience
i dont think the bullets has hit registration bug thats just the hit registration sucking lol
3:13 PenisKing?
what I learned today: better ammo is better... 🤔
Ahahha
Just dame here because i has a damn killa armar almost full and a scav one shotted me in the chest with m61
if anyones interested the RUclips channel Oxide is doing armor tests on Russian helmets and armor, alot of them being in EFT. you get to see how the real armor works in real life
Anyone know if this is still true that m61 can 2 tap lev 6 armor?
Its still be able to
Well, M61 is also a weird Ammo, can tap a Scav two times in the Chest and he will just go on about his day as if nothing has happend.
I stopped playing 7.62x51, but if i do i choose M80, its still the best Round for some Reason.
At least i can oneshot Scavs, Chads dont die anyway because of shitloads of stims, no matter which ammo i use.
I dont understand their way of doing Ammo, also the new 556 Ammo, instead of spreading out existing Ammo they add new ones, 545 still lacks a 855A1 equivalent, and AKs i genereal are pretty useless.
You're forgetting the very important fact that M61 is locked behind a questline...and for good reason.
I craft it almost exclusively, the only other thing I craft is red gpowder in order to craft more M61. Bottom load 10 M62, and top load 10 M61 with my RSASS and it absolutely rips.
@@MrMinimerlin personally I just buy the M61 cuz I have it unlocked.
Have you tried the unsuppressed RSASS ? Using the dual muzzle brake you'd normally put on a meta FAL ?
So good..sounds amazing unsuppressed...and is a laser when you spam fire
@@jonathanlebon9705 Yeah if I’m running dorms, resort or aggressive on interchange, I’ll use the BMD with a pk06 or delta point. Otherwise I use the TLok and a HAMR, the gun is almost flawless I love it
Not op at all, have you ever seen one, totally realistic how it performs. Though for example 9x19 7n31, where it does the damage of some rifle rounds is insane.
At some point making it to realistic brakes the game like why run high lvl helmets at that point
I think rounds like BPZ and TPZ are good enough rounds that if you Scav into a raid with a hunter or sa58 you will be able to fight.
Really depends on what armor they have imo
Agree I just started this wipe ( wasn't gona play this wipe) was running around woods with a shot gun doing the introduction quest to get jaeger killed a scav with Bel SA, had bpz in it. As I went to outskirts for extract a PMC was.sniping on some rocks, 1 tapped him in the head, level 50 wearing an exfil helm. Came out with snow ball loot off him. Though hard starting this late in the wipe lots of thicc Bois running around ATM
@@frozen4blade313 easier to start mid to late wipe. Cost of low level quest items are drastically cheaper and the loot u find on kills is markedly better.
Good vid, thx
when you're testing armor, why do you shoot so close to the top edge?
Bullet comes out of the barrel, not the scope, its to make sure its clean hitting the armor
the pen for m62 shouldn't have been nerfed as bad as it was. should've nerfed it to 48 pen since it still costs $6 a round and m80 is cheap af
Grenade launcher test plz
I’m going to be running 7.62x51 a lot more often
Any reason in particular that you're aiming so high on the armor?
Height over bore. The scope is higher then the barrel
@@VoXEonYT I see, thanks
yes
what weapon are you using dude?
DT mdr 7.62
Yup m61 of course is rediculous and is why its the only ammo i use
M80 is for sure the most reliable
m61 is better
Shhhhhh don't let them nerf my babies
When it comes to Tarkov, PenIsKing
did 7.62 get a buff
No, in fact M62 got nerfed this wipe.
It's just the top ammunition (well 7.62x54R has better rounds, but the guns firing it can not get anywhere near as good as 7.62x51 guns) and now that it's late wipe with every second player running slicks the rounds that will ignore a slick become more prominent
Here is why I love to sniper people, I need only to build my sniper 7.62 gun :)
wtf that 6B3TM is crazy !!!!
It doesn’t make sense to have such a gap from M80 and M62 being so similar and then M61 pen’ing everything. M62 needs to be the middle ground of M80 and M61.
It used to be
This is my first wipe and im alrrady tired of the fact that i have to run altyn and loose my sound or some other super expensive helmet with faceshield just so i dont get one shotted from 50m by 7.5 buckshot... i also hate the breathing sound... kinda annoying
Same happens to everyone , you just gotta get over it and go again
@@meyr1992 i know
So is this video demonstrating and you are saying the armor class of a helmet without a face shield actually matters??? I was under the impression that all helmets no matter the armor class were the same and only had a ricochet chance rmed/high etc and unless you were wearing a face shield if u didn’t get the ricochet all helmets were the same. So this isn’t true or? I’m now veryyyy confused as to how helmets work with seeing this footage
I genuinely think m61 is broken right now.
because it is. Even though its expensive per round, you run a lot less of it per raid cuz you dont need as many rounds as say, 5.56 or 9x19
5.45 please
is this wipe only for me easy?
Lots of newbs playing now.
So this is why I keep getting 2 tapped by m61!
I swear to God, one round exists that's under 3000rub each can penetrate armor decently and all the Tarkov streamers get upset. Just contributes to the meta chad issue.
sooo M80>M62 bc of cost now
We need the ricochet video!!
Leg meta with 7.62x51 is a terrible idea imo
Ultra Nosler? I would rather stick to my shrapnel 10 🙃
Why did I just get a 30min ad....
Thank you.
Did you speed up your voice!?? What’s up with it
all the high tier helmets shouldn't survive most rifle rounds to begin with...
M61 only ammo that I use
Idea @vox_e. (Would love to see detailed analysis on most weapons/ammo on range/velocity/bullet drop maybe damage fall off ect! 300 meter shot compared to 100 is just crazy and don’t make sense between all ammo variations!). These things are what make your brain go HUHHH when u die after mag dumping! Lmfao realizing shit I saw Altyn and slick didn’t I? FUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKK! Also agree round like M61/M993-7.62 should be behind a some sort of achievement with in game! Make the GREAT META ammo not so abundant! This way survivability goes up all together! People not just running great ammo/shit gun to 2 tap everyone!
It’s not broken shoot a ak round at a level IV plate carrier in real life and see what happens to it