2010 2.2 Ford Transit Glow Plugs Replacement Gone Wrong, glow plugs snapped off in cylinders 1 and 2
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- 2010 2.2 Ford transit glow plugs snapped off in cylinders 1 and 2. Tried multiple things before having to take the dead off.
let them soak in brake fluid to break up the carbon that caused them to snap and turn the engine over to hopefully push them out the head - failed.
drill and tap a thread into the glow plug and pull out with a puller - failed.
take out the injector and fish it out with a magnet - failed.
In the end, had to remove the cylinder head and replace the gasket and all gasket associated with removing the head, the timing chain on this one had recently been done so was no need to replace the chain.
Special tools require was just the timing tool kit you can buy off amazon for £20-£30.
I’ve been in this trade nearly 40 years now, you did a good job in the open air workshop in winter. The only advice I’ll give you is don’t work for free, warn the customer that these things can happen and if it does, it does. You can always offer to sub out the blokes who specialise in removing glow plugs, injectors etc if the customer wants to pay the price. Most won’t from experience. Work at a reduced rate if you wish, but not for free, it’s not your vehicle and you didn’t break it, it’s a risk with these modern pencil glow plugs. Remember it will always be your fault even when it isn’t that’s just people and the modern world for you. Good luck to you
Thanks Lincs, yes think I will next time for a quote from a logical engineering firm £80 an hour which couple hours I’m sure they would be out
@@themobilemechanic1992... bro. I learned alot from this video. I love to work on my transit. I'm not an expert more like DYi guy. But I would love to learned more about engines...
Great job! It’s a bit of sinking feeling to have the glow plug snap and have to take the head off, so great work in recovering it all and it getting it back running!
Ah it’s the worse lol.
Quick tip - Try to tighten the glow plug slightly first. This usually breaks the bond that forms between the steel threads of the glow plug and the aluminum threads in the head. Tightening first works better as the twist exerted on the plug deforms it slightly and actually makes it contract ever so slightly, whereas undoing it may not. You are also less likely to get a situation where parts of the thread inside the head being to break off as they become welded to the plug.
Another tip is to take your time! It doesn't mater if it takes you half an hour of gently working the plug back and forth to get it out, it's still faster and cheaper than removing the head! Just remember not to put too much pull on it at any point.
Mental note… If a customer calls me asking to replace glow plugs. Don’t do it!
Great video and way to see it through to the end.
Haha yes that’s best, leave them be lol
Outstanding project management by an expert mechanic. Excellent process
Thanks both
Done a couple of heads off due to broken glowplugs on the infamous nissan navara D22 and D40 YD25ddti in the last winter season.
Owners breaking them trying to do them at home.
Always use anti seize on threads when putting new in.
When customers want their plugs done by us we give them a can of good spray penetrating lube and give the plugs a spray each day for a week then get the engine nice warm and remove while hot.
99% success rate getting them out without too much trouble.
Yeh that’s a good idea, no matter how many glow plugs I do I alway cringe when trying to undo them 😂
I found a trick for removing glowplugs on my VW 1.9TDI-rather than apply loads of force and they just snap, use a box key and socket with a bit of play on the end driving the box spanner with a heavy wrench-and bounce the wrench back and forth on the box spanner-with the slightly oversize socket, gives it a small impact and all four came out using this method and they had been in 15 years!
@@alexanderwagner3334 thats good idea.
Another one is a bit of a turn out then back in little more out than in.
Better to spend a bit on time than rushing it.
Top class performance 👏.. showed True quality Form well done.
what a honest mech - and totally customer orientated Top marks for patience and not giving up.
Thankyou, appreciate it
Fair play to you!
I am also a mobile mechanic, and every time I am asked to do a set of glow plugs I warn the customer of the risks. I also have an email/text conversation with them so both the customer and myself can refer back to what we have agreed.
I have been lucky - I snapped a few on a Range Rover with a bmw engine in it, and I got a local glow plug removal firm to remove them for me. The guy was talented at his job for sure!
I couldn’t do what you just did at the side of the road, I would stress myself out too much! I would have to cancel the rest of the weeks work, and have it taken somewhere I could work inside and leave it in bits if required.
Well done and keep up the good work!
Yes, next time I’m going to get a specialist in for sure. Learn from experience.
Haha, I don’t think I’d do it on a car. Vans are easier as you can use the back for storage/work area. Nothing like a good challenge ay
@@themobilemechanic1992 looks like you have more experience than me in that department - I wouldn’t have even attempted to extract the broken plugs, so well done for trying, just unlucky this time! Not sure how you kept calm doing it. As I said I would have freaked out!
Brave man, hats off to you , I’d hate that in the middle of winter!
Top job buddy! Much respect for completing that at the side of the road. Thanks for sharing and keep ‘em coming. 👍
Literally had to do this today. What a sodding job. Still it's done now.
Heck of a job to be doing at the side of the road respect ✊
Thanks Kevin
Owner might not have paid for the job but at least RUclips did 👌🏻👍🏻
Were happy to watch though and you're happy to upload so we are all winner (;
Thanks Mark
Excellent video, you have a good methodical approach to the job, even when things go wrong, as they will🙄
Thanks Kevin, nothing is ever simple ay lol
I don't do glow plugs for this exact reason ...being mobile and stuck on a shit job like this only results in time loss and back log ....fair play to you tho you never got beaten ...well done that man
Haha cheers mate, yeh is a bit of a ball ache
Man, what a ballache, well done
Hello from Hungary 😁 A good way to avoid glow plugs from snapping is to loosen them with a torque wrench, as it clicks before they would break. I mean it'll start even if 1 plug didn't come out, but at least that one is still intact, and you can continue spraying at it or ignoring it 😅 NGK has a great tutorial video here on youtube with the correct maximum loosening torque by thread diameter
I’ll be trying that next time, thanks Peter
@@themobilemechanic1992 Thanks for replying! :) Here's the video I was talking about:
ruclips.net/video/W9lzWWGj8LM/видео.html
The Teng tools torque wrench doesnt work in reverse/loosen, so wont click
Well done lad you got the skills. Shouldn't be doing all the extra work for free, your time needs to be paid for. Look forward to more vids keep them coming 👌
Thanks Dave, waiting on the next big job and I’ll record it
Before you drilled the glow plug you should have put the piston to TDC , this would have stopped the plug moving downwards into the cylinder
Always learning, I won’t forget next time ay
@@themobilemechanic1992 it's easy to comment after the fact . I dont envy you working outside all the time
Fair play!! Unfortunatly this is very common on the 2.2.in one week i myself had 4 of these engines snap glowplugs,although it was the rear wheel drive 2.2 but same conclusion every time,off with the head!!!!
Ah no way, they are a bit more tricky on the rear wheel drives ain’t they
@@themobilemechanic1992 yep very common and yes very tricky!! But keeps us busy i guess!!
U free to do my Sprinter timing chain?? I feel u are the only guy i trust to do a good job!!
Thanks Imran, unfortunately I won’t be able to get to it for a few weeks, where are you based?
Leave it running with the engine hot then gently rattle them with a 3/8 impact. Once you see the puff of the combustion gasses around the threads stop the engine and pull it out the rest of the way. Works good on 6.6l duramax motors.
That’s one way of doing them, someone shared a good video from NGK in these comments on how to do it
Excellent Mac,,,nos what he's doing,,, brilliant 👌😊
Thank you 👍
I don’t think the 2 holes in the head gasket mean that it’s been off before, I think it can be down to engine code what gasket thickness it requires, seen a few vw’s with different notch gaskets from factory
Yeh fair one, although on the cylinder head you can see the semi circle marks from a lave which made me think that
Yes you are right. It is determined by piston protrusion at the block face when the engine is originally assembled. There will always be slight variations in deck to piston crown from engine to engine on the production line.
@@garybrown5500 you’d of thought this day and age they should get any variance
@@themobilemechanic1992 the difference in the gasket thickness is 10ths of a mm so not bad for mass production. BTW just had a glow plug break on a C5 citroen today, can't believe my bad luck as it was almost out!
Oh the joys of saving money at the pumps and paying through the nose dealing with stuck glow plugs and injectors and not forgetting add blue and DPF filters.
Emissions have a lot to answer for at Peter lol
Ouch!! - So I am right in thinking the body came out and the electrode stayed in? if you get that again - you can get an electrode kit - but you can utilise the body so do not throw it away and you will need some old metal brake pipe to make a sleeve to put inside the GP body - which should allow you to use the 3.3mm drill bit which comes with the kit - then drill and tap it - thread it with the nut and pull bar which comes with that and you should be able to get the next one out…..👍
Yes that’s it mate, I did try that before taking the head off and the drill went easy and turns out pushed the glow plug into the cylinder. Was a nightmare lol. I have got the glow plug extractor set too saved a few with it.
The Mobile Mechanic -The Jags with the Transits engines in seem to be popular for leaving the heater tips behind when you take the plugs out - nightmare the worst have to be the TDV6 landrover and sometimes the Merc 320’s 🤯🤯🤯
nice chilled out video, if all that went wrong for me id be stressing out
Haha you can tell in my voice at the beginning I was frustrated 😂
Eventually a video of a guy that has the same sort of problems I always have. It's never easy.
Haha, had to admit defeat and take the head off
This happened to me on a 1.6 hdi.
The tips of the glow plugs all snapped off in the head. I tapped them into the cylinder and sucked them out with a hoover through the injector port.
Cracking video fella 👍 this will really help me when taking the head off ... exactly what I needed
If you get stuck let me know. Help where I can
If you have to extract a broken glowplug again, put that cylinder on TDC before you attempt to drill and tap it, then the piston will stop it falling in.
Yep lesson learnt for sure
Respect, What a mechanic. 👍
Thank you 😁
if you ever get an opportunity, can you make a video on how to bleed the fuel system in diesel cars?
very little information about the procedure on RUclips.
cheers in advance
Hello, I sure can
Real world stuff doesn't always go to plan just get on with it.. sorted good show 👏
Thanks George, not all things go well lol. But thought I’d share the problems too lol
Using a torque wrench to loosen+tighten repeat patiently (5-10 minutes) until glow plug moves then don't get cocky until removed.
Nice work that man. Rather you than me 🤣🙈. Keep up the good work.. I look forward to the next episode.
Thanks for the support sir, new video should be up this week
I had a injector bolt snapped on a vito,got it out,nightmare
I didn't do any more mobile work after that.sticking to workshops.
haha everything is easier in a workshop thats for sure
Man, i feel your pain. I worked in a Ssangyong main dealer for a few years. They mostly had mercedes engines. Glow plugs were a nightmare. Almost impossible to get out without breaking regardless of what trick we used. It still wakes me up in a sweat thinking about it to this day. !!!
I had the the same problem snapped 2 glow plugs on a mazda 1.6 diesel and had to take head off as end of glow plug fell inside on the pistons .
I feel your pain lol.
Great video! Thank you. 🎉🎉🎉
Thanks for watching!
Great Video.. However, when and at what torque did you tighten the bolts underneath the cams? On minute they were proud, the next thing they were all tightened down.
I have this job to do on my 2009 Connect diesel 1.8 Turbo and do not want to miss anything. *****
There's absolutely no way that fired up straight away, you'd the injector pipes off , ???
I bleed the injectors left them slack and turned it over, but I was shocked how quick it fired up
Nightmare scenario but good video for the armchair enthusiast. By he way. Is it only, that found parts of video sound hard to hear commentary?
Thanks Michael, yes I think it’s where I had the camera and talking away from the camera. Might be worth getting a microphone lol
this is what happened to mine glow plug cylinder two had snapped and caused bad damage resulting in engine out new piston and rings full rebuild now
Oh really? Snapped trying to get it out or?
No mate they all came out pretty easy it must of snapped before I bought the van because the state of the piston was shocking
How long did it take you to remove the cylinder head mate
I can’t remember now but I’d imagine 2-3 hours I’d of had it off takes longer to rebuild though
Hi I have a 2016 transit mk8. I am getting sick of it can you help. 100k on it had it 3rd engine 2 turbos in less than a year and new injectors. Still sounds like a bag of nails when cold. Any ideas? Apart from scrapping it 😊
Great video 👍 well done
Thanks Matt
Hi, what's the going rate to get glow plugs replaced on a ford transit? Thinking of getting mine replaced but it could wait.. Thanks
So how long are you a mechanic quite a.drame.to cope with on the side of the road ?
To long now Derek 😂
What happens when you quote for glow ugs replacement and you end up doing all the extra work, do you charge more, stick to the price or explain what happened to the customer and hope he pays more?
Should really charge at a reduced labour rate.
Toyota..the ONLY reliable van left on the market.
If only I could afford one 😂
Fair play mate, good job!
Thanks Damo
Another informative video.Thanks.
Thanks Richard
Bonjour, comment avez vous fait pour dévisser le pré catalyseur a l'arrière du moteur car il n'y a pas beaucoup de place ?
Merci
i notice you didnt mention it, but i spotted it, you snapped an engine mount bolt ;) did you drill that out or just SHHHH SHHHH and install the others that didnt snap hahahha, or is it not snapped and it just looks like there is a snapped stud in there?
Yes it did snap. But that would of lead the video down another path lol so just keep video relevant
Excellent work bud.
Thanks Alan
Well done especially on the side of the road ! What area you from buddy ?
Thanks Iyndon, just got to make do with what I got
Excelent job! the costumer pays for the head out?
I would like to think the customer would have been warned that the glow plugs can, and do break! Therefore they pay for head removal!
As Vinn said. The risk of the job. But customer paid for parts labour free
When I have these types of vehicles that are well known for glow plugs snapping, I have basically a contract for the customer, that agrees if the worst happens they pay for parts and a reduced labour. Not free labour, not my fault that glow plugs and injectors sieze to the head.
I always offer to sub in a specialist to remove suspect ones, customers choice👍
👍👍👍👍 been there, seen it , done it...that horrible sinking feeling in your stomach.......insignias can be real bar stewards as well 3 easy 1 😖😖😖😖😖
Please no say that. I have glow plugs to do on my 2014 insignia and it doesn't excite me.
Dine glow plugs on other cars but not on an insignia
@@Arounadabout invest in a torque wrench, worth every penny. look up the glow plug replacement guide video by NGK, there's a list of maximum loosening torques by diameter. the torque wrench will click before the glow plug would break, then just add whatever fluid you prefer, and try again later 👍 put some graphite grease on the threads when fitting the new ones, and use the torque wrench for tightening as well
I’m going to have to try that trick next time
It’s the worse feeling lol
@@themobilemechanic1992 hy there, I have trouble with an audi a6 3.2,based in Ipswich. Is by any chance in your work area?
Great job fella
Thankyou 😁
I'd have changed that plastic timing chain tensioner which I can see has gone orange and probably brittle.
Mate what size is the 3rd bolt on the turbo the one underneith? Did you get it of frkm the top? i cant get a 13 on it wondering is that one diff from the other 2 i cant get under the van to see it and cant get at it properly. Cheers in advance
Well done. Nice video.
Thank you 😁
There are 18 head bolts in total. We only seen you torque up 10. There is a jump cut and no mention of torquing up the other 8. If anyone is using this as an instructional video please dont. The torque sequence shown is not correct.
The correct settings and sequence is as follows. From the service manual.
Tighten the bolts in the sequence shown in eight stages.
Stage 1: Tighten bolts 1 through 10 to 10 Nm.
Stage 2: Tighten bolts 11 through 18 to 5 Nm.
Stage 3: Tighten bolts 1 through 10 to 20 Nm
Stage 4: Tighten bolts 11 through 18 to 10 Nm.
Stage 5: Tighten bolts 1 through 10 to 35 Nm.
Stage 6: Tighten bolts 11 through 18 to 20 Nm.
Stage 7: Tighten bolts 1 through 10 to 45 Nm.
Stage 8: Tighten bolts 11 through 18 to 26 Nm.
Stage 9: Tighten bolts 1 through 10 to 90 degrees.
Stage 10: Tighten bolts 11 through 18 to 90 degrees.
And always replace the head gasket with the same notch number you took off. Or check piston pertrusion with a dial indicator and look in the service manual for the correct thickness gasket required.
Thanks Tomo, yes I would have used them setting if I’d replaced it with a genuine head gasket from Ford but I fitted a aftermarket head gasket and followed the recommendations for that gasket.
And it’s hard to get the whole process in as you get carried away and think oh s**t forgot to record that lol. I’m sure my videos skills will improve as I go on 👍🏼
Go buy a new one plug it and the make a little bracket to fix it from moving around make sure the hot end is covered this way no fault codes work for me till my transit got to 80.000 miles and bang broken piston block and everything destroyed
Ahhhh I can’t do that, everything has to be working as it should lol
Well done mate. Helluva job. Even if that wasn't the first start :-)....you need more RUclips surprised training. Subbed.
Thankyou 😁
Next time use mapp gas to heat the part cherry red, it will come right off.
Informative.i am learning.
Good work 👍🏻
Thanks Timma
hi did you snap 2 glowplugs as you banged out one from different cylinder ?
Yes mate was two snapped plugs in 1 and 2
How much do u charge for this job
wow ! great vid
BGA head gasket......goog luck 🙄
Haha you not a fan of them?
@@themobilemechanic1992BGA utter crap. If you compare a BGA gasket to any other make you will see how cheaply made they are.
Great job
Is that a PSA engine?
Did you have to time up the high pressure pump like on Mondeos and kuga?
It isn't, the Transit used Ford's own Puma 2.2
@@petermolnar8667
Hi Peter, thanks for that info. It was a fair bit of work alright but I guess there was space to swing a (small) cat in there.
Keep up the good work.
Regards. Anthony
No not on these they are run off the back of the cam, from what I’ve worked on it seems the front wheel drives doesn’t have the pump on the chain and rear wheel drives do. Could be wrong though but that’s what I’ve noticed Over the years
I got ford dealers do mine,the get out a company to do them they heat them up for while and apparently they all come straight out. £360
Good job
Thanks Dave
If I could get 3 out of 4 out I would just run with this as it should start okay with 3 good glowies...
Until it won't pass an mot with the eml on
Lol some would, but if it’s fitted it needs to work in my eyes lol
9:04 is that bent? No wonder it wouldn’t pull out.
It was but that was me after trying to fish it out with a magnet
Nice one.....👍
Thankyou 😁
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You should have steeped them with oven cleaner along with some patience.....
Yeh I still need to learn patients lol
Hello please I have try to email you I have problems with my van Volkswagen Crafter
you put camera inside cilinder see where is plug and with stick and double tape take it out
Oh I tried many things before having to take the head of trust me lol
@@themobilemechanic1992 my shop neighbor did this
👍👍
I hate these engines, I refuse to work on them anymore
Haha, should be a pro on them the amount they go wrong
головку зпланувати потрібно! Прокладка не даремно пробита там є викривлення площини головки! Цю прокладку теж пробє!
Thanks Ibah, the cylinder head was all good in this case, was just the glow plug issue
👍👍👍🇩🇰
Tried drilling a glow plug out, seriously 🤣😅
Tried to drill and tap a thread in it to pull it out, had many of successful glow plug removals doing it that way
Oh god armchair mechanic here, let me guess you’ve watched wheeler dealers and you know your shit
@@jackofalltradesmasterofnon8069 just take the head off and do the job properly instead of risking your costumers property and if you can do it in an armchair cudos to you 😀
@@Mike-gr2ok 😂 yeah I can I pay someone else to do while I sit in my arm chair lol
I'd piss the what a easy job when u have the correct stuff 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’ll call you next time 😂
Great job! You want to come and do my transit custom plugs?? I hear they can be a bitch 😬 😔
Haha I’m ok thanks. Yes they are
@@themobilemechanic1992 but you are so good at them! 🥺😁 I'm having dpf issues because it can't re-gen with shit glowplugs 😔
Orem ford glow plugs will not swell like that.
Was carbon build up around them
Good video 👍 alot of effort in that 👏
Thanks Aaron
Good vid, get a microphone!
Haha will do David, I actually bought one but it doesn’t work with my phone so annoying
Good job