About "pocket EQ", I think it is a matter of genre, as with the cut on guitar it sounds more Pop, with very little cut it sounds more Alternative or Underground. I tried something different also, as I made me a "poor man's trackspacer", around TDR Nova. The dynamic EQ sits on guitar bus, and gets sidechain input from the _mixed_ vocals. I have 1 or 2 dynamic filters on the midrange, one might be at those 3.6k, the other might be ~400-700Hz and subtle, given the vocals are really in a well-disciplined state, in spectrum and dynamics, else don't. So the guitars are fully back when the vocals stop. This is more of an aggressive rock sound, which I wanted, and appears louder on the whole. On another note, I like it more vintage, with more slap-delay. :)
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Man that slap back delay trick is so nice ! I personnaly thinks it's the one doing the biggest difference. Thanks alot for sharing so much of your great techniques ! Really generous of yours !
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. Haven’t through the of using vocal automation. Just Compression and reverb. Looks like the waves vocal rider is a good investment.
Your my teacher. Your explanations are soo..good and very easy to understand. Even with this big head of mine, i can still understand you very well. Thanks teacher.
I've been a hobbyist musician for decades. My vocal records have always sounded less than great. Looking forward to trying out these techniques as I have a few vocals to track this weekend. Thanks, man!
Ive always done a little bit of volume automation, mostly for chunks of recording passes with level differences - not down to the syllable like vocal rider does. A couple weeks ago I came across vocal rider on waves website, and I was on the fence - figuring that was compression’s job, but your video swayed me to pick it up. With a super dynamic vocal, the amount of compression it takes to get a consistent level adds a lot of “pump.”
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge here. Stoped by your channel a couple of days ago and finding very useful. Great tips, so clear and really works. All the best!!!
I'm so happy that i find your channel. I'm learning very valuable information about mixing. Thank you for sharing your experince and knowledge with us. Not that many people would do that. Keep up. I hope you would get your deserved attention with this videos. Thank you.
one of the best mixing video i have evr watched..very detailed .i want that stereo delay you use..what is the brand?will i get any stereo delay free siff
Musician on a Mission yes it actually did, although it’s still not perfect, I have a big voice so sometimes it’s more about finding the right eq for my voice which is the most difficult x
Great video! Just a question that doesn't really have anything to do with the topic of the video... Why did you have a cut at 200 hz on the drums bus? Was is to create a pocket for the bass? Just curious!
Watched a similar video on your channel about mixing vocals and the narrator puts his compressors on the main channel instead of on the bus channel. What is the reason for this? Thnx!
Great video as always. I always get scared using more than one compressor cause I'm not sure what I should focus on to differentiate them from each other. Any tips?
I dont use automation, for me it's more confortable to split the clip and adjust the gain, also for the vocals and instruments on mix. It's ok this approach?
I think he meant that he's using the volume meter while using automation. So that he can keep track of the volume level while automating the vocal line
Does anybody know: what's the point of using this program automatization if you just can use a limiter instead for the same effect of bringing audio to the same level? And btw, when you say fast compressor, do you mean fast attack or fast release? 🤔
Because of the attack/release function of compression, it adds extra “stuff” to the sound that level automation doesn’t. Sometimes that stuff sounds great, but when you need a lot of it, you end up with a smashed sounding vocal and you can start to hear the compressor pump, which can be distracting if that’s not the sound you’re going for.
I think the best thing you can do when it comes to instruments is by using automation so that when the is no vocal on certain parts of the song then the frequency is boosted on the instruments and note not all instruments should occupy the same spot because it could cause conflict between them fighting for the same space. Mixing is all about prioritizing your instruments so that they interact well with each other
Great tips, especially the level setting technique. Love that! Though to me, it sounded like the vocal was way too dominant for the genre and everything else sounded like a bed, and a bit mushy. I'm thinking that was because the focus of the video was vocals. I have 2 questions. Suddenly, everyone is on about automating vocals prior to compression. Is this not what a gentle, clean compressor with the right settings effectively does in a first pass? This is why compression was originally developed-to eliminate the need to ride the fader. I am not really able to hear a difference when using the right compressor and settings to do this and automating it. Can someone explain why this has become a fad recently? Regarding tip #4, making room for the vocal by cutting frequencies on instruments that are masking it. I get the concept, just not the way it was implemented here. IME, it's crucial to use a dynamic EQ or multiband compressor to preserve the integrity of the other instruments and to make the vocal fit in rather than feel like it's "on top" of everything. I used to use Ozone's or Neutron's Northern Lights feature to quickly isolate masking frequencies then go into FabFilter Pro-MB and set up dynamic EQ/compression/expansion cuts/boosts where needed. The key word here being dynamic. I don't want to effect my guitar or drum sound throughout the whole mix just to make room when the vocal comes in. It sits so much better if it's only cutting when it needs to. And with a dynamic EQ, I'd often use the iZotope products even though I prefer the sound of FF just because they made it so easy to set up inversely related EQ bands. Boosting the vocal (or whatever else) ever so slightly where needed let me cut less and keep a more consistent energy level across the frequency spectrum throughout the song. Now, though, there is a game changer. My dream of a marriage of iZotope to FabFilter is coming true with Pro-Q3. I've only just got it, so I'm not yet familiar with it, but I believe it will do everything that I used to have to use Ozone/Neutron + Pro-MB to achieve. Personally, I do find the FF products do make a difference in quality, but you could conceivably use any dynamic EQ to achieve roughly the same result. The one that comes with Logic would suffice, if that's your DAW.
lets be real its hard to mess up mixing with a microphone like that its crystal clear and sounds like its handling gain like its nothing? lol try a vid with an audio technica at2020 and a lot more will be going into mixing this
Everybody says that with any mic you can record professionally and mix it too but no one shows in video by using 100 or 50 dollar mic and mixing it professionally why??
I'm so glad you uploaded this video tutorial the exact same time I have vocals to mix for the first time. Great tips, I will follow them religiously.
Good luck!
Man you were born to be a teacher. You demonstrated everything as quickly and efficiently as possible. Thank you 🙏
Thanks for the kind words! Glad to help!
This song will be stuck in my head for days now!
My favorite channel on RUclips for audio engineering lessons.
Thanks for the kind words!
Where do they come from indeed?
This song inspires me in ways I didn’t know I could be inspired
About "pocket EQ", I think it is a matter of genre, as with the cut on guitar it sounds more Pop, with very little cut it sounds more Alternative or Underground.
I tried something different also, as I made me a "poor man's trackspacer", around TDR Nova. The dynamic EQ sits on guitar bus, and gets sidechain input from the _mixed_ vocals. I have 1 or 2 dynamic filters on the midrange, one might be at those 3.6k, the other might be ~400-700Hz and subtle, given the vocals are really in a well-disciplined state, in spectrum and dynamics, else don't.
So the guitars are fully back when the vocals stop. This is more of an aggressive rock sound, which I wanted, and appears louder on the whole.
On another note, I like it more vintage, with more slap-delay. :)
Good points!
These are the best lessons ...of any kind on RUclips. Thank you so much!
I've been looking for a vocal mixing tutorial that explains things so simply and directly. Thank you!
So Much Love From INDIA....Bcoz yr each and every mixing and Mastering tutorials and videos like a oxygen for any music producers or mix & master engineers....
God Bless for whole team...🖤
Your're a legend bro thank you so much. Best mixing channel out there!
Thanks Conner!
Man that slap back delay trick is so nice ! I personnaly thinks it's the one doing the biggest difference. Thanks alot for sharing so much of your great techniques ! Really generous of yours !
Our pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. Haven’t through the of using vocal automation. Just Compression and reverb. Looks like the waves vocal rider is a good investment.
Your my teacher. Your explanations are soo..good and very easy to understand. Even with this big head of mine, i can still understand you very well. Thanks teacher.
I've been a hobbyist musician for decades. My vocal records have always sounded less than great. Looking forward to trying out these techniques as I have a few vocals to track this weekend. Thanks, man!
YOUR VIDEOS ARE AMAZING MAN KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK...GOD BLESS..NAIROBI IS WATCHING
Ive always done a little bit of volume automation, mostly for chunks of recording passes with level differences - not down to the syllable like vocal rider does. A couple weeks ago I came across vocal rider on waves website, and I was on the fence - figuring that was compression’s job, but your video swayed me to pick it up. With a super dynamic vocal, the amount of compression it takes to get a consistent level adds a lot of “pump.”
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge here. Stoped by your channel a couple of days ago and finding very useful. Great tips, so clear and really works. All the best!!!
I'm so happy that i find your channel. I'm learning very valuable information about mixing. Thank you for sharing your experince and knowledge with us. Not that many people would do that. Keep up. I hope you would get your deserved attention with this videos. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
This vidéo never get old
best channel on YT!
Thanks Ricky!
Thanks for the free sheet 👍 😃
You are great Rob
Thanks for watching!
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I’ve learned so much from you 💪🏽
So glad we could help! 😄
Been using Vocal Rider for years. It is a game changer for me when it comes to mixing. You can do it manually but why?
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I have learned so much from you. Where were you all this time? Thanks very much
Your all videos are very helpful and really clear, it would be great if you upload some videos with cubase as the daw. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing!
This song is catchy, and making me want to listen to some Pavement.
Wow, this is a great video.
Great Tutorial, would be useful to have a Logic Stock Plug-ins tutorial.. for those of us who don't have Waves
Thank you so much for the tip about vocal level! I’ve been having the worst time trying to find where it should be.
Nice tricks. Thanks a lot!
Thanks and loving the videos . Not sure if there's any of side chaining but I'm hoping . JJ
Thank you for the information you provide !
No problem!
one of the best mixing video i have evr watched..very detailed .i want that stereo delay you use..what is the brand?will i get any stereo delay free siff
Great video, currently struggling with vocals in the mix so hopefully this will really help x
Nice! Hope we can help!
Musician on a Mission yes it actually did, although it’s still not perfect, I have a big voice so sometimes it’s more about finding the right eq for my voice which is the most difficult x
Video was helpful and all but i'm still wondering "where do they come from".
Hi, you have just gained one more subscriber. :-)
Welcome aboard!
Great mix lessons, thanks!
ps- U need to add a pop filter on your mic.
Who is the artist of the song you are using in this video? Thanks and excellent videos!
How did you add sound histogram in the lower part of video? Looks good
When I see that video İ directly said "Volume Automation!" 😂
😂
Edibles, all arouuuuund ~
Does anyone know the name of the song, and where can I get it?
Very helpful!
Great! Thanks!
Great video! Just a question that doesn't really have anything to do with the topic of the video...
Why did you have a cut at 200 hz on the drums bus? Was is to create a pocket for the bass? Just curious!
Watched a similar video on your channel about mixing vocals and the narrator puts his compressors on the main channel instead of on the bus channel. What is the reason for this? Thnx!
how did you get the print out of the vocal rider? did you do the wright on vocal rider?
Thank you very much.. Good tips...
Our pleasure!
Just watched.." less is more... " . Again great.. initiative..
Great video as always. I always get scared using more than one compressor cause I'm not sure what I should focus on to differentiate them from each other. Any tips?
Hello sir, how to EQ vocals,,
great video mate. please i will love to know the plugins you use in this video. write down or a link at least.
Thanks bro for the vids and thanks for replying to my email 💯 you the best!
No problem!
Would it be a viable alternative to use a dynamic eq with sidechain from the vocals for range allocation?
Vocal boost was at 2.4k but guitar/drum cut was around 4k. Did I miss why?
This might seem like a stupid question but why is does the signal on the tracks Look like that, shouldn’t they be clipping???
What's your thoughts on using a dynamic eq on the casing tracks side chaining the vox so it's just ducking when need be?
Which mic do you think is better for rap Rode NT1 or Akg c214?
How do you decide the amount of compression to use in your serial compressors, I always struggle with this..
Basically half the amount you would normally use between two compressors, and the small difference between the two halves adds spice.
@a-newwave is right. That is a great starting point! With that said, don't be afraid to experiment with different settings on each one either.
Very helpful
Are you for hire to mix and master my single for video?
hi, my vocals sounds wider, i dont want that wide vocals. i tried reverb @ lowest range. wht wd b d problem?
I dont use automation, for me it's more confortable to split the clip and adjust the gain, also for the vocals and instruments on mix. It's ok this approach?
I'm freakin OUUUUUUUT
Still confused with Technique #3 can anyone help please?
Great vid. What song is this?
Animales by Woodfire
Salut bonjour
When I do vocal automation I use a volume meter on the track to be sure the Level is consistent
I see you dont ...
What is better?
I think he meant that he's using the volume meter while using automation. So that he can keep track of the volume level while automating the vocal line
Salut
Yes I meant I use automation combine with a meter to verify the volume consistency
Do you still mix and master?
I see you have other plugins on bus 4 which you didn't cover
Maybe is cutting resonance and maybe the plugin he uses to make all words clear
Does anybody know: what's the point of using this program automatization if you just can use a limiter instead for the same effect of bringing audio to the same level?
And btw, when you say fast compressor, do you mean fast attack or fast release? 🤔
Both!
Because of the attack/release function of compression, it adds extra “stuff” to the sound that level automation doesn’t. Sometimes that stuff sounds great, but when you need a lot of it, you end up with a smashed sounding vocal and you can start to hear the compressor pump, which can be distracting if that’s not the sound you’re going for.
@@jefftravilla Great👍 Thanks
Would background vocals sit in that same range and what if a instruments required to be in the 3-4K range what will I do ?
I think the best thing you can do when it comes to instruments is by using automation so that when the is no vocal on certain parts of the song then the frequency is boosted on the instruments and note not all instruments should occupy the same spot because it could cause conflict between them fighting for the same space. Mixing is all about prioritizing your instruments so that they interact well with each other
why not using the plugins from Logic pro x. I'm not interested in buying a lot third party plugins because they are in Logic pro x.
The stock plugins in Logic are great!
@@masteringcom I know. But why are you not using them. It's for people much easier to learn Logic!! regards
why is there a gain plugin on pretty much every channel?
gain staging
Great tips, especially the level setting technique. Love that! Though to me, it sounded like the vocal was way too dominant for the genre and everything else sounded like a bed, and a bit mushy. I'm thinking that was because the focus of the video was vocals.
I have 2 questions. Suddenly, everyone is on about automating vocals prior to compression. Is this not what a gentle, clean compressor with the right settings effectively does in a first pass? This is why compression was originally developed-to eliminate the need to ride the fader. I am not really able to hear a difference when using the right compressor and settings to do this and automating it. Can someone explain why this has become a fad recently?
Regarding tip #4, making room for the vocal by cutting frequencies on instruments that are masking it. I get the concept, just not the way it was implemented here. IME, it's crucial to use a dynamic EQ or multiband compressor to preserve the integrity of the other instruments and to make the vocal fit in rather than feel like it's "on top" of everything. I used to use Ozone's or Neutron's Northern Lights feature to quickly isolate masking frequencies then go into FabFilter Pro-MB and set up dynamic EQ/compression/expansion cuts/boosts where needed. The key word here being dynamic. I don't want to effect my guitar or drum sound throughout the whole mix just to make room when the vocal comes in. It sits so much better if it's only cutting when it needs to. And with a dynamic EQ, I'd often use the iZotope products even though I prefer the sound of FF just because they made it so easy to set up inversely related EQ bands. Boosting the vocal (or whatever else) ever so slightly where needed let me cut less and keep a more consistent energy level across the frequency spectrum throughout the song. Now, though, there is a game changer. My dream of a marriage of iZotope to FabFilter is coming true with Pro-Q3. I've only just got it, so I'm not yet familiar with it, but I believe it will do everything that I used to have to use Ozone/Neutron + Pro-MB to achieve. Personally, I do find the FF products do make a difference in quality, but you could conceivably use any dynamic EQ to achieve roughly the same result. The one that comes with Logic would suffice, if that's your DAW.
QAQ why don’t I hear a difference? Can someone shine some light to how to hear the difference?
ear training will help with this. but he's also doing it in the mix which its harder to hear the subtle differences
This helped so much. Can’t tell you how amateurs don’t even use this and put their final product with no audimation
Or know of some one? I have a track i just cant get it right smh . i need help!!!!!
what song is this?
the song is Animales by Woodfire
Dude, sick track. What is it?
This song is call "Animals" by Firewood, I have mixed that song 3 days ago, i found their stems on www.cambridge-mt.com/ms-mtk.htm#Rock
it is Animales by Woodfire
lets be real its hard to mess up mixing with a microphone like that its crystal clear and sounds like its handling gain like its nothing? lol try a vid with an audio technica at2020 and a lot more will be going into mixing this
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Everybody says that with any mic you can record professionally and mix it too but no one shows in video by using 100 or 50 dollar mic and mixing it professionally why??
I agree. The raw vocals were already sitting on the track. He just perfected it. This video doesn't really show what's in the title.
Totally informative and appreciated but damn that song was hard to listen to.
eyyyyem freakin ooowwt
The band gives off Pixies vibes
I miss Rob :(
it sounds pretty same to me.... (is it only me?)
ear training will help with that. its very subtle but its there.
Sounds like pavement