Get Vocals to Sit Perfectly in the Mix...Every Time

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024

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  • @RailorGamesYT
    @RailorGamesYT 6 месяцев назад

    Brooo I’ve been into producing since high school I’m 23 now… and how you explained compression and everything overall! Insane🔥 Definitely you got the gift of teaching.

  • @jamesangell6027
    @jamesangell6027 Год назад +32

    I’ve been producing music for years and the way you’ve just explained compression has made me understand how, when and why to use it.. thank you. Subbed.

  • @juliennlopezzz2757
    @juliennlopezzz2757 9 месяцев назад

    i have recently been able to upgrade all of my equipment going from an iphone using garage band and my apple headphones to make music to buying a microphone, ableton, an interface, and a quality pair of headphones to step my music making up but it got so overwhelming and so i decided to focus on vocal production first because i’ve always been so intrigued by it!! lmao but anyways i’m off topic now but this is the first video where someone’s explained something in a way a beginner can understand ! i definitely got so much out of this ! i was watching other videos and i was like okay but WHY are we adding this stuff like what does it do!!! and you answered a majority of my questions. everyone else i’ve watched has just showed them doing it and not really explained anything and the before and after are huge improvements but how did you get there??😭😭 like adding different layers to not mess up the sound you’ve created or fix something else from a sound you like just makes so much sense when you EXPLAIN IT.

  • @cheery-hex
    @cheery-hex Год назад

    very helpful thanks!

  • @bbouro
    @bbouro Год назад +1

    Another good step for consistency, before compressing is normalizing the vocals so its even throughout the performance. Less heavy lifting for the compressor, smoother control.

  • @dakingkamer3414
    @dakingkamer3414 Год назад +1

    Please Joe, how to get the full song?

    • @jhubsley
      @jhubsley 5 месяцев назад

      Onward - Staredown

  • @ThePhiCode
    @ThePhiCode Год назад +10

    They way you think about your mix decisions is exactly what I like about your videos
    I’m not a newbie by any chance
    But I always take something away from your videos
    Thank you 🙏

  • @GRILLARECORDS
    @GRILLARECORDS Месяц назад +1

    Balance ⚖️

  • @rome8180
    @rome8180 Год назад +57

    For me, volume automation is essential no matter how much I compress. I go through the entire lead vocal and adjust the volume on almost every note. I say volume, but I usually do this in the form of clip gain BEFORE the compressor. That way the compressor isn't working extra hard for notes I'm just going to turn down anyway.
    I also almost always use parallel compression. I double the lead vocal, add heavy compression and saturation, and blend it in under the lead track. It's amazing how that evens out the perceived volume of the lead vocal.

    • @Steven-do2dp
      @Steven-do2dp Год назад +1

      Nice tips!

    • @nersonangelo
      @nersonangelo Год назад +7

      I found Melda Auto volume amazing for this job saves so much time

    • @SergioFrias
      @SergioFrias Год назад +7

      i use to do that manually but sometimes waves vocal rider is pure magic

    • @JTguitarlessons
      @JTguitarlessons Год назад +4

      Automation is important, but if you're going this heavy with it, it means that you don't actually know how to compress a vocal.

    • @ACES-BRAZIL
      @ACES-BRAZIL 8 месяцев назад +1

      no
      recordingrevolution

  • @mrbrubbs10
    @mrbrubbs10 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great tut brutha, just to the point! PS you gotta truly promising future in the voice over and radio dj area (side hussel)lol

  • @Pulse2AM
    @Pulse2AM 8 месяцев назад +1

    There is a phenomenon, the fletcher munson effect which makes mixing Interesting, you have to find an optimal level, not too loud not too quiet. Also, I was taught to turn the volume of your speakers way way down and you can hear if your vocal Is the loudest part of the mix or too quiet. You have to listen carefully especially In parts where you think it maybe getting lost.
    "The Fletcher Munson Curves help explain why quieter music seems to sound less rich and full than louder music. The louder music is, the more we perceive the lower frequencies, and thus it becomes more full and rich."

  • @hpnascimento95
    @hpnascimento95 Год назад +25

    Great video! I would love to see the continuation in terms of reverb, delay etc.

    • @oO5Dynasty
      @oO5Dynasty Год назад +1

      yes, can you please continue

    • @Owl-qh2rh
      @Owl-qh2rh Год назад +1

      And thirded! (Is that a word?) Great vid and I'd love to know the rest too!!! Thanks for your time and sharing Mr G! Bless 🙏🕊️

    • @tafadzwagwitima7417
      @tafadzwagwitima7417 Год назад

      Fourthed!! 😂

    • @7echnoid
      @7echnoid 10 месяцев назад

      Fifthed! I was like... WAIT? He's mentioning the doubling, reverb, etc, but won't let us hear it!?

  • @teashea1
    @teashea1 Год назад +65

    It is curious that most of the pop song now being release have the vocals below or at the level of the music. The voice often simply acts like another instrument.

    • @BronBronWorld
      @BronBronWorld Год назад +27

      Which recent pop songs do this? I feel like it’s the opposite with the vocals always being the loudest element in the song. I feel like the vocals below the music technique was most common before the 2000s

    • @officialWWM
      @officialWWM Год назад +9

      That’s more a consequence of mastering. Mastering engineers squash the hell out of modern pop songs in an attempt to make them loud.

    • @samsonlovesyou
      @samsonlovesyou Год назад +3

      I hear this mostly in rock. It's been that way for a while. Even take Radiohead in the 90s. It's impossible to make out Thom Yorke's lyrics in the mix. It's like the vocals are 'surrounded' by the music, so quite literally sitting 'in' the mix.

    • @GgWifi-ot2sh
      @GgWifi-ot2sh Год назад +6

      Hip hop needs to go back to under the beat in my opinion. I feel like because lyrics now aren't as intricate as they used to be this changed , but they are being pushed wayyy to far on top imo... The instrumentals in rap today are soooo good they carry the genre now

    • @mikebozik
      @mikebozik Год назад +1

      I've noticed this phenomenon, too. I don't believe it is a stylistic choice but a questionable mix. The majority of the Hot 100 is good, on the vocal levels.

  • @flangel4892
    @flangel4892 Год назад +4

    This is fantastic!
    The only concern I encounter is with my perception. When I'm EQing or compressing vocals in solo, my mind tends to create a deceptive memory of the mix, causing me to mix everything incorrectly. I've learned that I should never make corrections or mix solely S. i guess that's how my ears+Brain work :)

  • @pedrozagor
    @pedrozagor Год назад +5

    Only using the most basics tools the vocals improved a lot. Thanks Joe

  • @JeetuBeats
    @JeetuBeats 7 месяцев назад

    When the singer singers Ooooooo, that time an annoying frequency pops up (extremely painful high eeeeeeeeeeeechiiiiiiii type) I have this in my vocals a lot, I don't to how to remove it as it is all over my vocals. Can you tell us how to treat this, use this same vocals and the section where he sings oooooooo at 4:23

  • @hersheybell8444
    @hersheybell8444 Год назад +4

    Joe .. BRILLIANT video. This has been the bane of my existence for over 7 years .. and I tried this method on a track that has been particularly difficult for me .. BOOOM .. vocals sit perfectly .. I couldn't believe how much impact paying attention to each frequency of the vocals would have and then to really use compression in the proper way to lift the vocals. The only addition I made, and I only for certain songs, I added a very gentle limiter at the very end. Just enough to bring up the volume a tad without any real true reduction overall from the limiter. Sounds SOOO GOOOD.

  • @1loveMusic2003
    @1loveMusic2003 Год назад +2

    What about deessing first so the sibilance doesn't get so prominent? then another at the end?

  • @KordTaylor
    @KordTaylor Год назад +3

    This is great! It reminds me when someone asked Mike Dean how he got a good vocal mix and said "I turn them up a bit louder than the music" 😂 Love the eq advice and that you are not doing a "compress it all to #$%^ Vocals sound a bit like Muse.

  • @yungblade7
    @yungblade7 Год назад +1

    When do u add a treble boost then? Last or before compressors?

  • @YourFavouriteColor
    @YourFavouriteColor Год назад +7

    small music theory tip. If your progression is minor 1-maj5 1st inversion(in this case Dm-A7/C#), it's good practice not to double the third in your melody. there are exceptions, but when the 3rd is your target note in the melody, and your bass note is that leading tone also, the doubled leading tone results in a kind of unsatisfying hollow sound.
    If you want to keep the melody the same, resolving to that C#, good ole A7 with the A in the bass works fine, but there are other options. A7/E grants contrary motion which is nice, then then you can hit Dm/F after which is a good payoff.
    A7/G is like a castlevania sound which can rock. You can also climb down Dm-Gm/Ab-Dm/A-A7sus/G. like a chord on each of your melody notes. Probably too chordy but try it
    Alternatively, if you want to keep the C# in the bass, hang on that high Bb, then when you hit the A7/C#, sing your "sus" up there. "pro-" on Bb and "'mised" on A. This would make a b9-8 suspension over an inverted dominant which is a smoother, more solid choice when it comes to proper voice leading/counterpoint. emotionally, you'll also achieve a real "weeping" quality that comes from this badass b9 suspension over the inversion

    • @dominikwujek4126
      @dominikwujek4126 Год назад +1

      Commented a wrong video bro

    • @YourFavouriteColor
      @YourFavouriteColor Год назад +2

      @@dominikwujek4126 no I didn't I'm referring to the song he's using in the example

  • @robladue8456
    @robladue8456 11 месяцев назад +2

    Nice job. Thank you so much for taking the time to present the secrets to us out here. I am learning to Mix and this will help lot's... Cheers Rob!!!

  • @DalesBadBug
    @DalesBadBug Год назад +1

    Their is a Dip I Put into the Master/main track that has my Instrumental on it at around the 1k-4k range and use my vocal track input as the Sidechain. Then I'll "spread" the Instrumental, using a stereo imager and widener and then I'll Boost the Left/right channel or push the Instrumental just to the left and right channels (wideners do this and so do stereo control plugins) Then I'll work hard on it but I try to "up the Kick so it sounds center and the snares set triangular in the Mix (left/right/top) like a pyramid if you could hear the shape. I SOMETIMES Find also using a Clipper on the Vocal track works to help with peaking over the Instrumental but also keeping it sounding like it's cradled.

  • @davelordy
    @davelordy 22 дня назад

    Great video ! But it's a little annoying when you zoom in and keep some of the controls you're adjusting offscreen so we can't see what you are doing (high EQ moves, compression make up and so on).

  • @05minprod
    @05minprod Год назад +1

    Compression...The trash compactor of mixing...Ha. Another great tutorial, Joe.

  • @4thumbsdown
    @4thumbsdown Год назад +8

    please release those multitracks, your songs are beautiful and full of direction. the awesomely wonderful thing is, you’re singing to God

  • @carmvecchio
    @carmvecchio Год назад +2

    I could have used this for a group challenge I was doing the last two nights! But alas, except for "butter compression" this is basically what I did. I do have one question: when you set the makeup gain on the first compressor, did you raise the channel input volume? I was expecting you to use the GAIN on the compressor itself. Great instructional video JG.

  • @ProfitGang-ps2on
    @ProfitGang-ps2on Год назад +1

    this is gold im saving the video and showing my grandkids and thanks for the bonus course

  • @straye9395
    @straye9395 2 дня назад

    This video helped a lot thank you!

  • @evanbelcher
    @evanbelcher Год назад +3

    This is great advice! One question though, how would you approach a static mix for an a cappella track? It feels like vocals are harder to nail down in one spot than instruments, so when all the tracks are vocals, it feels extra tricky to get even a workable static mix before eq and compression and leveling work.

    • @Steven-do2dp
      @Steven-do2dp Год назад

      Would like to know too

    • @kidchina7201
      @kidchina7201 Год назад

      automate a utility gain on each vox track, get everything consistent first. You can also chop and gain automate each quiet or loud part. waves vocal rider can do this for you but the old school way is to do it by hand. Hope that helps

    • @kidchina7201
      @kidchina7201 Год назад

      also the reason I use a seperate utility is so the overall channel fader can be used as a seperate unautomated level. You dont have to though

  • @jones9495
    @jones9495 8 месяцев назад

    hey thanks for the tut learned a lot! was wondering who the artist is? i like the vocal performance

  • @edbarry1724
    @edbarry1724 Год назад +1

    Well done Joe as always. Much appreciated. One question.. what if you do overdubs to thicken? Do you shoot for different EQ profiles or mirror each to be the same? Thank you 😎🤙

  • @Silentragetrolling
    @Silentragetrolling 5 месяцев назад

    How loud does the instrumental need to be compared to the vocal tho?

  • @deltavistastudio124
    @deltavistastudio124 Год назад +2

    Love the clarity of the process - Thanks Joe!

  • @MetalArcade
    @MetalArcade Год назад

    a high pass of 219hz on a male vocal does seem very extreme, I have personally never gone more than like 120

  • @BrantK147
    @BrantK147 Год назад

    The sibilance in this video is so bad for a channel that talks about sound XD

  • @johnmichaelpeel151
    @johnmichaelpeel151 7 дней назад

    Learned a ton. Thanks Joe!!

  • @chriskemp466
    @chriskemp466 Год назад +2

    Good song !

  • @InYourDreams-Andia
    @InYourDreams-Andia Месяц назад

    Cool, also, the last thing to mix will be the loudest 😀

  • @ayMillmusic
    @ayMillmusic Год назад +1

    Great stuff! Thanks for sharing 🙏

  • @GetOutTheKitchenWhenImCooking
    @GetOutTheKitchenWhenImCooking Год назад +1

    Thanks alot 🙏🏿🤞🏿❤🤞🏿

  • @kevinjbiro6849
    @kevinjbiro6849 Год назад +1

    Great video Joe. This is so helpful!!!

  • @iTzMisTV
    @iTzMisTV 26 дней назад

    I found this at the right time.

  • @BenjaminBoster
    @BenjaminBoster 19 дней назад

    Thank you! This was so helpful, especially your explanation of compression. I hadn't understood it that way before and made way more sense.

  • @RaepaMusic
    @RaepaMusic Год назад

    Hi Joe / Graham, when and where on the channel strip do you add the EQ for cuts on bad frequencies.

  • @recklesschild4537
    @recklesschild4537 11 месяцев назад

    how u do those short cuts? you should say

  • @TapRiot
    @TapRiot 3 месяца назад

    Joe! Thanks man! So glad I found your stuff. You explain everything in such simple terms. Really really helpful. God bless, man!

  • @markweyker9303
    @markweyker9303 Месяц назад

    Awesome thanks

  • @neilskreations1264
    @neilskreations1264 7 месяцев назад

    The trash compactor analogy made it real easy to understand thanks, the 2nd compressor, and the 2nd EQ, technique were great too.
    I make my instrumentals in GarageBand. I now see the importance of mixing the vocals.
    My question is do we really need to use the EQ and compressor on the different instrument parts or no? What if you already like the way the beat sounds already, do you really have to mix the beat?

  • @JosefwitdaCoatOn
    @JosefwitdaCoatOn 4 месяца назад

    I’ve been mixing for years, or at least think i have… lol anyway your description of compression really opened up my understanding

  • @surreal8zero475
    @surreal8zero475 5 месяцев назад

    Superb mate, I've never really had to mix full on vocal with my genre of music before! This explains it perfectly for what I struggled with last night in a mix 👍
    Definitely gonna look at your 5 step plan 🤙

  • @WillieMCruz
    @WillieMCruz Год назад

    Have you ever tried the Waves MV2 ? Hi there friends always learning from you from the beginning 10 years ago 🙏 thank you very much for the beautiful teachings

  • @mikebozik
    @mikebozik Год назад

    Yeah, fix the eq, then "smash" it. You can also do alot of clip-gaining to put less stress on the compressor. That's more work, but can give a better result result. Bottom line, the better the vocal performance, the less you have to mess with it. Good stuff!!!
    1) Could you ask Presonus to put the Input and Ouput level meters back to beside eaxh other, in the GUI?
    2) I feel like the auto-gain button (EQ/Compressor) does not work right? Or I don't understand it... Not getting the levels I would expect when A/B-ing between "In" and "Bypass".
    Thanks 😊

  • @kriyeted2370
    @kriyeted2370 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for the lesson❤. Your explanation is good and understandable.

  • @tonypickett6087
    @tonypickett6087 Год назад +1

    Excellent advice Joe, thanks!... Should we mix the vocals in mono or stereo?

  • @pisyunok
    @pisyunok Год назад

    Great video. What is the name of the song? Really interested in it.)

    • @jhubsley
      @jhubsley 5 месяцев назад

      Onward - Staredown

  • @narekchannel
    @narekchannel Год назад +1

    Good job Joe in keeping things as simple as this!

  • @chicago_beats
    @chicago_beats 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the Compression Tips. I used to know how to do it but now that you refreshed my thoughts I'll give mixing a try later on today. God bless you

  • @sgg6927
    @sgg6927 Год назад

    Where did you do make up gain on the compressor? It didn't look like you increased the input gain

  • @peterprather7104
    @peterprather7104 9 месяцев назад

    Very good tutorial, I could feel the mix, as well as hear it also, great job!!! Small moves to get a big sounds.

  • @Mynelka
    @Mynelka 11 месяцев назад

    Dude, how can you miss the ear bleeding high mids whistles on this vocal ?

  • @FooltheMane
    @FooltheMane Год назад

    Going upstairs to remix a mix I was mixing because I knew I’d find a tip to mix it better

  • @teashea1
    @teashea1 Год назад +1

    good video

  • @dessiplaer
    @dessiplaer Год назад

    Very helpful information! Thanks for the video.

  • @personalwatching9312
    @personalwatching9312 Год назад

    I clicked this literally cos of the title. Fantastic and hilarious. 🤣🤣

  • @Chilibeecheekee
    @Chilibeecheekee 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for this. Legend 🙏🙏🙏

  • @snail8320
    @snail8320 Год назад

    Bad

  • @dannyelregio
    @dannyelregio 4 месяца назад

    This is excellent ! Just what I was needing and not finding

  • @oO5Dynasty
    @oO5Dynasty Год назад

    Great video, I need a ton of help with mixing vocals

  • @ylott_sm
    @ylott_sm 10 месяцев назад

    thank u, finally a video on that topic that goes str8 to the point !

  • @noblesolution
    @noblesolution Год назад

    Pls which mic was used for the vocals?

  • @erkamau9629
    @erkamau9629 Год назад

    better for me to use upward expansion and automation

  • @vincentfuentes6035
    @vincentfuentes6035 Год назад

    learn something new today, thanks

  • @matthewblake2258
    @matthewblake2258 Год назад

    Really good video, thanks 😃

  • @cecilia_mackie
    @cecilia_mackie Год назад

    Interesting! Let’s stay in touch.

  • @Yogeshbairaagi
    @Yogeshbairaagi Год назад

    can we go with one compressor sir ?

  • @pablobelasteguimusic
    @pablobelasteguimusic Месяц назад

    Thank you! God bless

  • @danaelston9848
    @danaelston9848 Год назад

    Compression tips are always welcome!

  • @iwahjoedi
    @iwahjoedi Год назад

    Hey, I love the song. Where can I listen to the full song?

    • @jhubsley
      @jhubsley 5 месяцев назад

      I managed to find it on Spotify. It's called Onward by Staredown.

  • @aspeno5613
    @aspeno5613 Месяц назад

    Great tutorial and great song!

  • @tctenet
    @tctenet Год назад +1

    I learned a lot in 12min!

  • @givejonnythelight
    @givejonnythelight Год назад

    this youtube channel is great

  • @millalowisa
    @millalowisa 7 месяцев назад

    super helpful thank you!!!

  • @gift33
    @gift33 Год назад

    Is this channel for rent??

  • @davidelkins2818
    @davidelkins2818 Год назад

    Name of the song please

    • @jhubsley
      @jhubsley 5 месяцев назад

      Onward - Staredown

  • @FLANNELZERO
    @FLANNELZERO Год назад

    This video was amazing!!!!!

  • @juner8376
    @juner8376 Год назад

    You are the man.......Kisses

  • @dicksstudios68
    @dicksstudios68 Год назад +2

    As always Joe another great job this is gonna help me thank you!

  • @justin777.21
    @justin777.21 Год назад

    amazing, thank you 💎

  • @47Libra
    @47Libra Год назад

    Sit…now stay damn it!!

  • @ProfessorSaibertin
    @ProfessorSaibertin Год назад

    Thx for the tips man!

  • @g2record
    @g2record Год назад

    Well understood 👏

  • @M4DRIDx
    @M4DRIDx 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much

  • @mukeshpathak7302
    @mukeshpathak7302 Год назад

    Thank you sir

  • @kludgybrains3459
    @kludgybrains3459 9 месяцев назад

    !thanks a bunch

  • @MrJohndl
    @MrJohndl 9 месяцев назад +1

    None of this was used in the 60's, except some reverb and compression. The vocals should be clear, in front, and louder than the music.

  • @MattLeFaitMusic
    @MattLeFaitMusic Год назад

    Really helpful Joe!

  • @blyssthaengineer4281
    @blyssthaengineer4281 Год назад

    Thank you.🙏🏾

  • @JimmyWebley
    @JimmyWebley Год назад

    Thanks again Joe!

  • @Luke-ot6mk
    @Luke-ot6mk 7 месяцев назад

    Nice!