4 steps to get your vocals sitting perfectly in the mix
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
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Vocal mixing is a balancing act. You want vocals that sit perfectly in the mix, AND are also energetic, clear, and upfront.
In this video, I'm sharing 4 steps to consistently get you the balance you're looking for in your vocal mixes. 
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i LOVE that you said you aren't concerned with what the gain reduction meter is doing. it's far too often that people get really squeamish when they see nearly any compressor reducing more than 3-4db of gain. you were really helpful in teaching me not to give a shit about that, to simply focus on what sounds good.
Yeah, easy to forget that it is all about focusing on what sounds good and what doesn't. Jordan is always here to remember us that fact :)
Yeah some compressors like this CLA76 sound very good with very high gain reductions, some other sound quite hard and make the track squashed
I love tutorials like this. Straight to the point and it immediately made my first vocal recording tests sit perfectly in the mix while still giving me room to reverse engineer each effect in the chain so I can more closely learn how they work as needed. Thank you so much for this!
No concerning about the gain reduction is a great and important statement, well done, thanx for the video!!
You’re the real deal .. you’re feeling the music .. yeah that’s the way … I just subscribed ..
Makes a lot of sense, especially for this genre. Thank you!
One of the best videos on how to mix vocals i've seen so far. Thank you for the masterclass!
You just summed it up perfectly. As always, thank you Jordan!
Thanks for all these terrific tips Jordan 🤘
Great vocal performance. Awesome video all round
Your videos have drastically improved my mixes over the years! Thank you everything!
You're the man. Some of the best explanations on RUclips.
Wow, I've been watching vocal mixing tutorials a lot on this platform, this is the best so far!
Thank you thank you thank you! I just spent the entire night in my studio and finally gave up in frustration. I watched a bunch of your videos and they are so simple and make so much sense. I literally cannot wait to get back in there tomorrow and try some of the stuff I learned here. Amazing.
i love how upfront this is, i learned a lot about vocal compression
and limiters and also the order of those plugins, thanks a lot!
What a great vocal chain...simple yet effective..thanks for posting.
Love this video dude. Cheers!
There is so much content out here. I decided I'm just watching you and imitating your workflow, finding what works for me, and implement other things as I understand this foundation. It's helped me so much in terms of where to start. I love it. Hope to join your courses!
Sir, you just opened my eyes in regards to vocal mixing!
Thanks 🙏
Great video Jordan!
Learned a lot from this guy. Thank you sir.
my congratulations for your work i learn a lot from you
More great advice, thank you
I find it really helpful for the compressor to do some form of automation before going in to it, then do further broader automation after any other processing.
Thank you SO much!
Nice! Thanks!
Really good info here! 👏
BRAVO!
super lesson thanks
Another daring statement from this good man, I am not looking the meter to see how much conpression is taking place, I am listening. Everybody else keeps telling to check for an average of 3db to maximum 5db of compression. I need these advices to mix my rap vocals but being often dynamic, screamy and harsh, this channel seems to be a goldmine of accuracy and knowledge.
Thanks so much!
Thank you.
NICE!!!! Thnx!
For me personally running the EL8X on the way in while recording vocals is essential and has been an absolute game-changer for vocals.
What attack/release settings do you find using the most when tracking vocals? On the manual they suggest starting at 5 but when mixing I often find myself setting the release on 3 and attack at 6/7
best mix channel on youtube
You are the best ..
Great vid
nice mixing tips
Amazing! Any chance we get some old school power metal stuff any day?
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I think I might have found my favourite RUclipsr
You BEST vid, Jordan. Oh, yeah, baby...
I love the distressor for tracking. I also slam it pretty hard. It’s a joy to sing into it.
Do you use the opto mode?
really nice video, do you prefer the g channel or the new ev2, i really like how clean the ev2 is
Wow Jordan, that shot is **crispy**
Is that good? haha
@@hardcoremusicstudio absolutely, the image looks super sharp and crisp, have you upgraded your camera?
Awesome content 👍🏻 can you please show us the full mix from nick johnston's album
There's a full drum mix walkthrough for that on my channel here. The complete mix walkthrough is inside my program!
The hum setting on the cla76 you've got bothers me so much lmao. good video!
Just turn it off!
Do you recommend writing the vocal automation after the compression and other steps you've outlined here? Usually I've seen it described as a first step, before any EQ or compression. Very useful insights btw.
Great video. Would you recommend using Vocal Rider by Waves for automation?
whats the song
Erode by Auras
I am wondering if you could do a similar video about compressing using a vocal that is not screaming--- an "east listening" vocal. I noticed in many of your videos the vocals are yelling.
Thank you for this video
why not use vocal rider for automate?
Not sure if you can find time to answer this, but what do you think about placing the limiter before compression to catch the spikes and then compress? vs compressing then limiting at the end? Just curious what you think..or anyone out there that has an opinion? Appreciate it!
You use a lot of waves plugin, just wondering (instead of doing it through automation) what you think about using Waves Vocal Rider?
Once I threw the 1176 on a vocal I instantly heard the magic sauce I hear on every record. My vocals never sounded bad but I just couldn’t get the presence of modern records
My only issue with the fader riding (have the same artist mix as you) is with the playback buffer, we're most likely reacting too late with the moves, if that makes sense
Throw waves vocal rider on there
@@TheAzurefang after all these years, I've never tried that plug! lol I wind up zooming in with a mouse and drawing it all in (where need be)
What attack/release settings do you find you’re using the most on the Distressor when tracking screaming artists like the one from the video?
Attack 4, release 3
you just helped me make my bulshit song sound so much better thank youuuu
I have one question.
Why do you automate at the end and make things quieter when before our goal was to make all present in the mix?
I have a burning question, if your available to answer at all… I’ve noticed in a few of your videos that I don’t really see you high passing anything. Do you do that on the way in, or not at all? Also, more generally … whether you do or don’t, what are your opinions on high passing things? I know for a lot of people it’s like… automatic to high pass anything that isn’t a low end dominant source (bass and kick and stuff). What are your thoughts on this? Do you already have a video about this that I just haven’t seen!? 😂
I can’t get a good vocal chain. I’m a live streamer and I’m using the sm7b. I think this mic hates me. I have Apollo twin
What song is playing ? What song is playing ? help me find please
Do these step’s apply to Neo soul RnB and hiphop vocals ????
If you automate the vocals, or the vocals bus, isn't that going to just get compressed by the master channel compressor and eliminate the lows/highs you automated?
No, not unless you're mixing into a brickwall limiter which is already at the ceiling.
Great reminder it doesn't take fantastic plugin chains to get a solid sitting lead vocal!
What kind of EQ curve is on the 8k boost? Is that a high shelf?
yes
Please tell me what's the name of the song in compression part，it's so nice but i can't find where to listen to it.
Riding the volume after the compressor? I thought it's meat to be done before so the compressor doesnt work too hard. Unless you're talking just the final stage of making sure every word sits ok.
I really like the song who is it?
Compression is key. Took me years to learn this. So many videos tell you 3db GR is enough. More like 30😂
Are there any consoles that have de-esser? Using a Behringer c32
Is it good to automate guitars down when lead vocals hit? Or side chaining?
I do automate guitars up and down as required throughout a song... but I don't do any sidechaining or make it a habit to duck the guitars when vocals hit.
@@hardcoremusicstudio thanks Jordan !
I'm actually trying to buy your BSA clipper and your website isn't working on safari or chrome...
Nice song is it out ?
What if you don't have a compressor to track with??
just serial compress more in the box
Please tell me what is the name of the song from the video?
Damn look at all that gain reduction on the bluey. Y the F do they tell us not to do that but it sounds great ?
My guitars always obstruct the vocals, yours seems perfectly separated as if no frequencies clash each other between the two. Someone has an idea how to do that ?
Are you panning your guitars hard left and hard right?
@@AdriSkynet Absolutely but i think my tone have too much ~1000Hz and it obstruct where the voice sit.
Aside from eq-ing some of the conflicting frequencies, you can sidechain the vocals to the guitars. Don't go too hard on them that the guitars just disappear, but a couple of dB can really seperate those vocals from the gats.
Better yet, use a multiband compressor that supports sidechain and just duck out the conflicting frequencies. Again, don't go too hard.
One thing you will find by sidechaining the vocals is that even though the vocal level isn't changing, they will feel louder and more up front due to the contrast of vox to guitars
@@Mukna132 Great idea ! Thanks
*high pass filter missing noise* XD
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4:16 so I'm NOT crazy! "We can get spikes in the level because of the compression"
I get these a lot on guitars not just vocals, and it drives me nuts. I never understood it because compression is supposed to reduce spikes in level. Yet there are instances when I apply it and it almost does the opposite.
It's because of the attack time. Some signal gets through before the compressor clamps the level down.
@@hardcoremusicstudio Slowly been realizing this. That's been a big hurdle for me as a beginner, I always want to "preserve the sacred transient" but no sometimes that sucker's gotta go!
Why not just vocal rider?
Who is that band?
The song makes me think of Breaking Benjamin, especially the Guitars.
Man all these other guys are all talking about keeping the compressor from going over 3-5
My problem is when y'all talk about plug- ins I have to relate it to my tascam. Like how much compression
What song is this?
Auras -Erode
Can't vocal Rider fix that that automation
Why de ess after boosting treble? Isn’t that counterintuitive? Doesn’t it make more sense to de ess first and then boost treble?
Not for me. I want to get the overall vocal sound as bright as I want, then take care of the S's as needed.
What about mixing other genres that are not rock or metal? Like our African genres for example...
With me, it's almost like the vocal is coming through a megaphone or a walkie-talkie. It sounds tinny and compressed. There is like a crap ton of overtones in the mids, and I am running out of eq bands, trying to desperately level out these vocals, which just pops up in different places as it pleases. The best way to describe it is that it sounds like I'm cupping the mic, which I never do, obviously, but it sounds so bad from the get-go, and so annoying and just completely doesn't sit in the mix, almost sounding like I'm just talking/singing over the music from a radio. It just sounds so fucking bad it's unbelievable. The worst part is that I've applied compression, but that does barely anything - the compressor is clipping and showing the vocals is too loud. Even with no makeup or anything dialled in, and is too quiet in the mix or clipping, or I can get it to cut through by overloading the compressor and applying a limiter. Honestly I hate the sound of my voice, it's so fucking twangy, annoying and ringy sounding, with brittle and tinny overtones. Regardless of what I do with the EQ, it sounds poor.
Why do tou always got sime shittiy rock song
Please don't keep recommending Waves plugins. Waves' underhand methods of getting people onto its WUP subscription hurts users
Over compression. In heavy distorted music it can make sense but I kinda think you are being a bit misleading with how much compression you are selling
Why would I lie about that?
@@hardcoremusicstudio Lie? Mislead. Sure. Lots of vocals are super compressed but many vocalists don't over compress with. Adele is a great example of a pop artist that uses very little compression. Going back into 70s music, maybe artists just hit the comprssor for colour and allowed the tape to do most of the gluing
The only thing that stops me from watching your videos is the musical style used in your presentations,,, the singer's voice is horrible, coming out of a televised competition > it's unbearable for me. And the music behind it is very banal **at the same level**
You have no taste, **but what I appreciate about you is your honesty and your professionalism for you work**
But, i just can endure the rest !
**A neutral song is request**