You're not supposed to C-Clamp the rear piston. You can do that with front pads, rear pads are supposed to be rotated in. Thats why it has notches on the face of the piston.... Kinda cringed watching that. But it's a common mistake, don't feel terrible.
@@normalguysupercar Part of being a youtuber you make mistakes publicly. Most us made those mistakes when nobody saw us and then had to tell our wife how we saved her life because the callipers were so bad you had to buy and replace those too.... Practically saved her life ;).
@@SRTst Yup! I don't mind failing publicly. My career was in software start-ups so failing is a way of life. You learn, and move on. Better yet if you can teach others not to repeat the same mistakes.
@@normalguysupercar Remembah you're training, Grasshoppah....."Success has many fathers. Failure is an orphan". You couldn't count how many mistakes I've made. Some of us are secure enough to own up to them....and then there are those with such fragile egos, they'll NEVER admit to any failings. I just shattered an S&K ratchet yesterday (using it as a hammer. Not smart). Had it for decades!......I'm such a dumbass.
Your supposed to use a brake caliper little block that screws in the caliper instead of c clamping it in. You got lucky because sometimes they crack when c clamping it in
How many others were cringing when he did this with the C clamp.... The good news is semi-loaded calipers are relatively inexpensive - you'd have to add your own red paint though ;-)
Hey Dan. I enjoy watching the work on Meg's mini, as well. I also enjoy reading the comments on collapsing the caliper pistons. Next time use some channel locks, that should really bend people out of shape.
"NEAR DEATH CRASH WITH FIREBALL AND EXPLOSIVE TOTAL LOSS AVOIDED by changing BRAKE PADS in TIMELY MANNER!" Good job, sir... the only other item worth mentioning... if you've added brake fluid at some point before the pads are changed the level in the master cylinder will overflow as the pistons are pushed back in with the c-clamps. I always pop the hood and remove the master cylinder cap just in case the system isnt vented and check the level before retracting the pistons. In a pinch, you can remove excess fluid with a old windex pump sprayer
As others have mentioned, it looks like this caliper piston is supposed to be rotated clockwise in to retract. Calipers like this usually incorporate the parking brake mechanism so it is different. I don't know if you damaged it.
Excellent video and will use once the brake light come on for my 2021 JCW - I do hear brake noise when cold and a little when hot? New to the JCW so not sure..
Yeah.....made that mistake with the pads on my Hyundai when I did the first pad replacement. When I saw the notches in the Mini's brake piston, I thought it was gonna be the type where you compress AND screw the piston back in at the same time (Nissan & Hyundai for example). Dodged a p.i.t.a. step right there. Great vid, Dan.
That’s crazy that that had to wear out that fast. I drive over Highway 17 through the mountains every day commuting into F250 and my glass 70,000 miles front and rear. I’ve been meaning to get a caliper compressor but I’ve always used a C clamp even on my BMW
HI Dan . Good video . To get caliper push back . You need to use a caliper turn back tool kit . It should come with a left and right tool . There on amazon .
I assume you pop open the brake fluid reservoir before you force the piston down right? Good work and 15 mins (without interruption) is quick actually.
do you need a diagnostic tool to put the rear brake into service mode first? I'm gonna do this with my clubman but giving the car has electronic parking brake, I'm not sure if I can just use the wind back tool to rotate the piston in.
Wtf are you doing? That piston needs to be turned as well as having pressure applied. You need a wind back tool 🤦♂️ also remove the brake reservoir cap, makes it easier to push pistons back
Im pretty sure those are the calipers which you are meant to rewind to push the piston back in, you cant just push it back, that was far too much pressure you were putting on the c clamp.
since you lost your dear friend and your dog I feel that you are not joyous as usal, smile my friend!! Is it the case to love another dog? =) I missed something, why the 430 is still in your garage?
Hey NGS, good video. I applaud you for leaving in the pad install mistake. We're all human, right? On rotor thickness: wouldn't it be a good idea to mic the rotor at several spots for a more representative reading? I have a '15 Cooper S 4dr HT (F55) that only sees 4 to 6 HPDE track days a year yet it burns through pads, too.
I think you meant ECS Tuning. Not NCS as you said in the video. ECS has a great customer service and have just about every part for BMW'S or in your case Mini's.
Ha figures that always happens, still cheaper doing it yourself. Do those pads and sliders not require any brake caliper grease? Good video though, keep them coming. That 348 major was a great series, we need to get Josh in some future episodes.
Well I love to say "If you're not doing it twice, you're not doing it right!" But, now that THAT'S holding true through the 348 Saga and apparent in this video, I'm adding "If you piss people off, you're doing it correctly!" (Even though it may cost you some rear calipers in the future). Just make sure to do some research before replacing brakes on a car with an electronic parking brake. 👍
Yup. A mutual friend pinged me last night and asked if it was him on Live PD that she had just seen. I then pinged Dan and he confirmed that he had just gotten pulled over 15 mins ago. Crazy world we live in now. He and I were wondering if any subscribers would also see him. :D (Not sure if they showed it, but he said he just got a warning)
No, as long as you take care of a Mini and can find one that has everything done they are great. I pulled the trigger on a 2011 R56S that was totaled and rebuilt it. Then my dad bought an R53S and it has held up very well with a lot of modifications, it now has a cam, 550cc injectors, Miltek exhaust, Wilwood 6 piston brakes, and a bunch of other small stuff and its the most fun car I have ever driven!
I bought my 16-year-old daughter a red with black roof, John Cooper Works, Mini Cooper with black wheels, with an all-around air-dam package and a lot of carbon fiber trim for her first car because that is what she told me she would like. I called it driveway candy because it was so darn cute. She loved that car.... But after a long business trip, I come home and there was a brand new black shiny Honda Civic on the driveway and no Mini? I asked what happened to the Mini, thinking an accident, but thankfully that wasn't the case. My now 18-year daughter tells me, the Mini was too unreliable and she needed a car she could count on to start every morning. She had taken it back to the dealer several times for Timing Chain issues before those issues were declared a full-blown recall. But they could never seem to get it right. So my 18-year daughter decided to trade in the car of her dreams, the car she loved for something reliable and she bought a Civic, fully loaded of course. And drove the Civic round trip from Chicago to Los Angeles twice. We both still think about and miss the cool, little black over red Mini every time we see another Mini on the road, but she never regrets trading it in!!!!
Thanks for this vid. I have the same brake setup on my i8. I also saw the comment on the c-clamp, so I'll use that advice. One suggestion: If you are replacing pads that often, buy them from FCPeuro. They have a lifetime guarantee on everything, meaning after you buy a part from them, once it wears out, buy a new part to replace it, send the old worn one back and they refund you 100%. They even do this for oil and filters! They sell OEM or aftermarket, so you're not getting sub-par parts. Apparently, that was different years ago, but they listened to customers and offer lifetime guarantee on everything they sell. I had only heard about this recently on bimmerpost, but that's where I'm going to start going for all my wear items. www.fcpeuro.com/page/lifetime-guarantee
i cried a little when you sprayed brake cleaner on that nice painted caliper. now the finish is dull and gross. Just use a brush and some iron-x or jay leno wheel cleaner.
See i do know something about cars! Haha. After i snapped 4 screwdrivers and bought the manual thats how i learned it. Lol i changed a 3000 job into a 100 dollar job for my friend with 3 kids and no money.
I really enjoy your content but honestly find the click bate stuff benith you. What was "Unsafe" and the comments about the engine being destroyed on the 348? When you posted that your 458 had been crashed into! It was obviously not good but... Nuff said. I still look forward to your stuff but in the long term you might loose peoples interest. Keep up the great work and whats with the 430 being back. Please not my intention to offend but just trying to be helpful... Dean
He explained in this video: ruclips.net/video/EoVdlOdWtpA/видео.html He felt he had no choice but to start "clickbaiting" the titles, otherwise the YT algo wasn't listing him as popularly. He hates it, but because everyone does it, if he doesn't his content just disappears into a black hole (for non-subscribers). The only way to get YT to feature him, thus giving him a chance for new subs, is to play along with their crappy algorithm game. :(
You're not supposed to C-Clamp the rear piston. You can do that with front pads, rear pads are supposed to be rotated in. Thats why it has notches on the face of the piston.... Kinda cringed watching that. But it's a common mistake, don't feel terrible.
Holy moly I was sweating watching that. I've never tried compressing a rear piston like that. I'm shocked it didn't break something!
Lessons learned
@@normalguysupercar Part of being a youtuber you make mistakes publicly. Most us made those mistakes when nobody saw us and then had to tell our wife how we saved her life because the callipers were so bad you had to buy and replace those too.... Practically saved her life ;).
@@SRTst Yup! I don't mind failing publicly. My career was in software start-ups so failing is a way of life. You learn, and move on. Better yet if you can teach others not to repeat the same mistakes.
@@normalguysupercar Remembah you're training, Grasshoppah....."Success has many fathers. Failure is an orphan". You couldn't count how many mistakes I've made. Some of us are secure enough to own up to them....and then there are those with such fragile egos, they'll NEVER admit to any failings. I just shattered an S&K ratchet yesterday (using it as a hammer. Not smart). Had it for decades!......I'm such a dumbass.
Your supposed to use a brake caliper little block that screws in the caliper instead of c clamping it in. You got lucky because sometimes they crack when c clamping it in
Eh it worked
How many others were cringing when he did this with the C clamp.... The good news is semi-loaded calipers are relatively inexpensive - you'd have to add your own red paint though ;-)
@@Scotty_in_Ohio I used a C clamp no problem on these multiple times.. it def fine. Just pop brake fluid cap and the little air nob
Hey Dan. I enjoy watching the work on Meg's mini, as well. I also enjoy reading the comments on collapsing the caliper pistons. Next time use some channel locks, that should really bend people out of shape.
Oh I love upsetting people too
And on the newer cars, you use an obd scan tool to retract the rear pads. Best invention ever! Thanks car designer folks!
Oh cool
I imagine that's only for cars with the electronic parking brake.
Great video Dan. You have lots of patience... I really enjoy the DIY projects... Please do more😁😁
More on the way!
"NEAR DEATH CRASH WITH FIREBALL AND EXPLOSIVE TOTAL LOSS AVOIDED by changing BRAKE PADS in TIMELY MANNER!"
Good job, sir... the only other item worth mentioning... if you've added brake fluid at some point before the pads are changed the level in the master cylinder will overflow as the pistons are pushed back in with the c-clamps. I always pop the hood and remove the master cylinder cap just in case the system isnt vented and check the level before retracting the pistons. In a pinch, you can remove excess fluid with a old windex pump sprayer
Good tip
As others have mentioned, it looks like this caliper piston is supposed to be rotated clockwise in to retract. Calipers like this usually incorporate the parking brake mechanism so it is different. I don't know if you damaged it.
Yeah I'll check
Excellent video and will use once the brake light come on for my 2021 JCW - I do hear brake noise when cold and a little when hot? New to the JCW so not sure..
A little brake noise for performance brakes is not uncommon
To be fair... I've been driving in a group with Meg in it... She's pretty hard on brakes. :P
True story
Can confirm.
Yeah.....made that mistake with the pads on my Hyundai when I did the first pad replacement. When I saw the notches in the Mini's brake piston, I thought it was gonna be the type where you compress AND screw the piston back in at the same time (Nissan & Hyundai for example). Dodged a p.i.t.a. step right there. Great vid, Dan.
Yup gotta get the tool for that
You being on live PD was the highlight of my weekend! Hope you didn't get a ticket.
Haha no ticket.
"reset impossible," lol. BMW factory pads are notoriously soft and dusty. On my MINIs I swapped them out for EBC or Militek pads.
Yes they are!
Daniel how dare you lie to us! Great video keep them coming!
Thanks
That’s crazy that that had to wear out that fast. I drive over Highway 17 through the mountains every day commuting into F250 and my glass 70,000 miles front and rear. I’ve been meaning to get a caliper compressor but I’ve always used a C clamp even on my BMW
Yeah I can't believe how fast it wore out
Good video Dan. Really look forward to watching your most recent run of videos. Well done!
Thanks!
HI Dan . Good video . To get caliper push back . You need to use a caliper turn back tool kit . It should come with a left and right tool . There on amazon .
@@nicewknd for what it cost for rent . You could own it . I looked on amazon . About 30.00 .
@@nicewknd , you could get a pipe . Cut the extra metal off , to leave pins that fit into the hole in the caliper . Or a socket .
I'll get one
I assume you pop open the brake fluid reservoir before you force the piston down right? Good work and 15 mins (without interruption) is quick actually.
Yup
do you need a diagnostic tool to put the rear brake into service mode first? I'm gonna do this with my clubman but giving the car has electronic parking brake, I'm not sure if I can just use the wind back tool to rotate the piston in.
Convinced this JCW has a manual break lever. Any update on knowledge base for service mode steps would be ideal 😃
Wtf are you doing? That piston needs to be turned as well as having pressure applied. You need a wind back tool 🤦♂️ also remove the brake reservoir cap, makes it easier to push pistons back
Got it
Rear brakes should last just about forever. Thats insane she goes through them that fast.
i agree
I'm shocked the rear pads are smoked are 15k. Usually rear pads last for 80k+
Yeah I was surprised too
@@normalguysupercar May have just had a bad sensor. :)
Im pretty sure those are the calipers which you are meant to rewind to push the piston back in, you cant just push it back, that was far too much pressure you were putting on the c clamp.
Hmm possibly
The Rosie The Riveter sticker is awesome!
I agree
since you lost your dear friend and your dog I feel that you are not joyous as usal, smile my friend!! Is it the case to love another dog? =) I missed something, why the 430 is still in your garage?
We got another dog. 😁 This video was filmed a while back before I sold the 430
Normal Guy Supercar please introduce us your new four legged!! 😏
Is there no reason to open the cap on the master cylinder before pushing the caliper inwards to fit the new pads in?
It will vent
Hey NGS, good video. I applaud you for leaving in the pad install mistake. We're all human, right? On rotor thickness: wouldn't it be a good idea to mic the rotor at several spots for a more representative reading? I have a '15 Cooper S 4dr HT (F55) that only sees 4 to 6 HPDE track days a year yet it burns through pads, too.
I think you meant ECS Tuning. Not NCS as you said in the video. ECS has a great customer service and have just about every part for BMW'S or in your case Mini's.
Yes, ECS was it!
Great job, Dan.
Thank you
Thanks Dan....
Welcome
just sayin- your garage did look awesome with two Ferraris in it.
I know. It was pretty nice
Narrator: "But it was not actually nice. Not at all."
Ha figures that always happens, still cheaper doing it yourself. Do those pads and sliders not require any brake caliper grease? Good video though, keep them coming. That 348 major was a great series, we need to get Josh in some future episodes.
Thanks
That wear sensor, if wears down does it have tip that needs to be replaced?
You replace the entire sensor
How long brake pads last depends on how you or your wife drive the car. is she an accelerate hard then brake hard type of driver?
Oh yes she is
Hi from Great Britain
Hello
Well I love to say "If you're not doing it twice, you're not doing it right!" But, now that THAT'S holding true through the 348 Saga and apparent in this video, I'm adding "If you piss people off, you're doing it correctly!" (Even though it may cost you some rear calipers in the future). Just make sure to do some research before replacing brakes on a car with an electronic parking brake. 👍
This doesn't have an electronic parking brake.
@@normalguysupercar sorry Dan I meant in the future in case you run across one with an electronic parking brake.
Buy from FCP euro. Lifetime replacement on parts...even pads.
Oh really? Hmmmmmm
Great vid!
Thanks
Who saw him on live pd
Yup. A mutual friend pinged me last night and asked if it was him on Live PD that she had just seen. I then pinged Dan and he confirmed that he had just gotten pulled over 15 mins ago. Crazy world we live in now. He and I were wondering if any subscribers would also see him. :D
(Not sure if they showed it, but he said he just got a warning)
Lol yup. Fun times.
yup, When the cop read the plate, I thought that had to be him.
@@85irocon I'm shocked at how many people watch that show. I had no idea.
I'm confused and perplexed.
Why are there 2 Ferrari's in the garage. I thought you only had one. And, are Minies as bad as ive heard?
This was recorded many months ago. Just been sitting on it
No, as long as you take care of a Mini and can find one that has everything done they are great. I pulled the trigger on a 2011 R56S that was totaled and rebuilt it. Then my dad bought an R53S and it has held up very well with a lot of modifications, it now has a cam, 550cc injectors, Miltek exhaust, Wilwood 6 piston brakes, and a bunch of other small stuff and its the most fun car I have ever driven!
I bought my 16-year-old daughter a red with black roof, John Cooper Works, Mini Cooper with black wheels, with an all-around air-dam package and a lot of carbon fiber trim for her first car because that is what she told me she would like. I called it driveway candy because it was so darn cute. She loved that car.... But after a long business trip, I come home and there was a brand new black shiny Honda Civic on the driveway and no Mini? I asked what happened to the Mini, thinking an accident, but thankfully that wasn't the case. My now 18-year daughter tells me, the Mini was too unreliable and she needed a car she could count on to start every morning. She had taken it back to the dealer several times for Timing Chain issues before those issues were declared a full-blown recall. But they could never seem to get it right. So my 18-year daughter decided to trade in the car of her dreams, the car she loved for something reliable and she bought a Civic, fully loaded of course. And drove the Civic round trip from Chicago to Los Angeles twice. We both still think about and miss the cool, little black over red Mini every time we see another Mini on the road, but she never regrets trading it in!!!!
Nice!!
Thanks
Set my "Clock out: LMAO!!!!!
Yeah
Thanks for this vid. I have the same brake setup on my i8. I also saw the comment on the c-clamp, so I'll use that advice. One suggestion: If you are replacing pads that often, buy them from FCPeuro. They have a lifetime guarantee on everything, meaning after you buy a part from them, once it wears out, buy a new part to replace it, send the old worn one back and they refund you 100%. They even do this for oil and filters! They sell OEM or aftermarket, so you're not getting sub-par parts. Apparently, that was different years ago, but they listened to customers and offer lifetime guarantee on everything they sell. I had only heard about this recently on bimmerpost, but that's where I'm going to start going for all my wear items. www.fcpeuro.com/page/lifetime-guarantee
Yeah I'll get some aftermarket brake pads next time for sure
So. It was a mini -pad job!
Lol
i cried a little when you sprayed brake cleaner on that nice painted caliper. now the finish is dull and gross. Just use a brush and some iron-x or jay leno wheel cleaner.
It won't hurt the paint
Some of the pistons ratchet back in as in a Saab.
Yeah I think that's the case here
See i do know something about cars! Haha. After i snapped 4 screwdrivers and bought the manual thats how i learned it. Lol i changed a 3000 job into a 100 dollar job for my friend with 3 kids and no money.
After reading the comments. "How not to do a brake job on a Mini 😀"
Pretty much
Jackstands would much safer.
Yes but unnecessary
the door must have broke again.
Wrong car. 😁
Why do you have two Ferraris in the garage??
Because that's all it holds.
This was filmed before he sold the 430. That's why he had that little disclaimer during the title sequence.
Yup!
Oof i saw you on live PD
It's all good
@@normalguysupercar did u get a ticket?
Nope
$130??? Normal break pads for a subcompact car would be $25. Why so expensive?
Because brembo
Only the front are brembo
@@Brad55102 you can still buy Brembo branded discs and pads 🤣usually the most expensive cos of their quality, so yeah they are probably Brembo
Because BMW. lol.
BMW
I really enjoy your content but honestly find the click bate stuff benith you. What was "Unsafe" and the comments about the engine being destroyed on the 348? When you posted that your 458 had been crashed into! It was obviously not good but... Nuff said. I still look forward to your stuff but in the long term you might loose peoples interest. Keep up the great work and whats with the 430 being back. Please not my intention to offend but just trying to be helpful... Dean
He explained in this video: ruclips.net/video/EoVdlOdWtpA/видео.html
He felt he had no choice but to start "clickbaiting" the titles, otherwise the YT algo wasn't listing him as popularly. He hates it, but because everyone does it, if he doesn't his content just disappears into a black hole (for non-subscribers). The only way to get YT to feature him, thus giving him a chance for new subs, is to play along with their crappy algorithm game. :(
Exactly as Jeff said. Thanks
@@normalguysupercar More power to you I had no idea...
Is it needed a new brake wire every change? So i should order 2? Left and right?
Correct
@@normalguysupercar Thanks for the fast reply!