Annie Teriba - The United States is Institutionally Racist

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    The Motion: This House Believes the United States is Institutionally Racist.
    Annie Teriba is a student at The University of Oxford, studying history and politics.
    The individual in this video is a competitive debater, and therefore the views expressed may not necessarily represent his/her beliefs.
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Комментарии • 733

  • @BetaCuckAlpha
    @BetaCuckAlpha 5 лет назад +922

    It takes courage to get up in front of this many people to share an incoherent argument.

    • @AdvocateOfJamaica
      @AdvocateOfJamaica 4 года назад +21

      😂😂😂😂....good one, bro! Made my day 👍🏿

    • @illuminatethepath404
      @illuminatethepath404 4 года назад +5

      Lmaooo

    • @jesswilson6012
      @jesswilson6012 4 года назад +3

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @jatozzie8623
      @jatozzie8623 4 года назад +2

      @@AdvocateOfJamaica same

    • @codylee729
      @codylee729 4 года назад +16

      Really though. Checks off all the marks. Ad hominem, calling arguments ridiculous, disrespectful orator, narrative over facts

  • @ogalief
    @ogalief 8 лет назад +476

    First minute in, and my jaw already hit the floor. She says "there are more black men in prison now than there were black men who were slaves in 1850 in US". Does this lady even take population growth into account?? In 1850, there were 23,191,876 people in US. Now there is an estimated 320,000,000 people. It's a shame that not enough people think critically when they listen to these "activists".

    • @joymumbi8758
      @joymumbi8758 8 лет назад +12

      +Kyran Mcgowan I'm glad you picked that up instead of aimlessly criticising her argument. Moreover, she covered areas that need to be made aware of but, there are always two or more perspectives concerning the issue of racism.

    • @ogalief
      @ogalief 8 лет назад +27

      "people like you"... THAT'S RACIST!!! But anyways, what's wrong with thinking critically and questioning what you hear? And even if there is institutionalized racism (which I'm not saying there is or isn't), the people trying to solve it should be using valid facts and figures about actual problems, and not spreading around nonsense like this

    • @ogalief
      @ogalief 8 лет назад +41

      Well since you were unable to pick up on it, I was being ironic when I wrote that.
      Also, I find your concept that "black people cannot be racist" to be the dumbest thing that I've heard in a while. According to the dictionary, the definition of racism is "poor treatment of, or violence against people because of their race" or "the belief that some races of people are better than others". Nowhere does it specify any of your mental gymnastics about requiring "power".
      By your logic, if I called you a racial slur, it wouldn't be racist because I don't have any power over you (because A: I don't even know you, B: I probably don't even live in the same country as you, and C: I don't have any power over anybody but myself).

    • @ogalief
      @ogalief 8 лет назад +17

      I think either you misread what I wrote, or have trouble with higher level thinking. If the latter, let me explain it to you again.
      Population growth almost always follows with a growth of the prison population. That's just how things are. Because the population has grown so significantly since 1850, the small fraction of the US population that includes black people in prison has surpassed the number of slaves in 1850. No need to get all worked up and start writing in all caps and throwing around names.

    • @allahslave8546
      @allahslave8546 6 лет назад

      Starwood Graham please cite scientific journal and original source not wiki

  • @freddiedejesus785
    @freddiedejesus785 4 года назад +278

    These are insane arguments. It's nearly impossible to find a point that was not misrepresented.

    • @Othello484
      @Othello484 4 года назад +25

      Wait? She had an argument? :)

    • @illuminatethepath404
      @illuminatethepath404 4 года назад +4

      Eric Kjos lmaoo

    • @IamBrixTM
      @IamBrixTM Год назад

      They're not. They're alligned with the academic consensus. You're a white conservative yes?

    • @freddiedejesus785
      @freddiedejesus785 Год назад

      @@IamBrixTM No, I’m Puerto Rican.

  • @mikegriffin104
    @mikegriffin104 4 года назад +56

    "No one wants to be called a racist" Especially a black woman or man who sees race in everything even when it's not.

    • @sheilasawyer712
      @sheilasawyer712 Год назад +1

      And you know when it's not racism because you have lots os experience being its target?

    • @mikegriffin104
      @mikegriffin104 Год назад +2

      @@sheilasawyer712 EXACTLY

  • @tovarisch3039
    @tovarisch3039 4 года назад +123

    what an uninformed inexperienced young person

    • @stuckcase7775
      @stuckcase7775 4 года назад +2

      And Irish labor

    • @bigmike956
      @bigmike956 4 года назад

      🙏

    • @davidrapalyea7727
      @davidrapalyea7727 4 года назад

      Fashionable as well!

    • @jeffb5785
      @jeffb5785 4 года назад +1

      She is not so innocent to deserve being called an uninformed inexperienced young person. www.theguardian.com/education/2015/oct/14/oxford-university-student-annie-teriba-resigns-posts-non-consensual-sex

    • @whocares5665
      @whocares5665 4 года назад

      Jeffrey Binder yoo 😂 she admitted to sexual assault and all she had to do was step down??

  • @macky765
    @macky765 4 года назад +51

    so its ok for her to ask questions while someone else does their speech but she doesn't want any questions

    • @taylorwhitehead3425
      @taylorwhitehead3425 3 года назад +4

      I noticed that same thing. Typical lefty tho

    • @a.kramer1615
      @a.kramer1615 2 года назад +1

      www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/annie-teriba-alleged-victims-say-oxford-student-accused-rape-painting-herself-victim-a6699941.html

    • @infidel900rr
      @infidel900rr Год назад

      She was never interested in "asking" anything. All she did was interrupt and try to talk over them.

  • @terrance8817
    @terrance8817 4 года назад +104

    She lost me as soon as she pushed privilege on the audience from her privileged podium in Oxford Union 🙈
    Oh the lack of awareness and humility is almost painful to watch

    • @illuminatethepath404
      @illuminatethepath404 4 года назад +3

      Ikr

    • @ladym7852
      @ladym7852 3 года назад +1

      Foreal! Haha

    • @IamBrixTM
      @IamBrixTM Год назад

      Why? She'd still be correct. There's nothing about this that contradicts her beliefs at all. You realize that right?

  • @ab-f427
    @ab-f427 4 года назад +51

    Starts off by telling people they're privileged if they hope for a better more equitable tomorrow.

  • @JustMe-uc1lt
    @JustMe-uc1lt 4 года назад +53

    “This is the point: your intentions don’t matter. Whether you intend to be racist doesn’t make you not racist”.
    This woman has either brainwashed by post-modern nonsense or is completely delusional.
    Also, it’s a pity to see someone so appallingly inarticulate speaking at an Oxford Uni event.
    If they had chosen someone smart, it would have been interesting.

    • @mrage22r
      @mrage22r 4 года назад +6

      They changed the goal posts on what Racism means. In her mind, Racism is just the existence of a caste system. Which makes everyone at the top of it (whoever that is perceived to be - depending on the argument at hand) racist. Pretty convenient I'd say.

    • @DellSnooze
      @DellSnooze 4 года назад +3

      Thanks affirmative action 👏👏 you’ve done it again 🤦‍♂️

    • @taylorwhitehead3425
      @taylorwhitehead3425 3 года назад +2

      I had to pause the video after she said that because I literally could not comprehend what would lead any rational human being to spew such idiocy unironically.

    • @IamBrixTM
      @IamBrixTM Год назад

      That's correct though? Your intentions don't matter. You can be a kind, smart person and still suffer from racial prejudice? How is that brainwashed? (Not gonna touch the postmodern part, because you clearly don't know what that is and are just parroting Jordan Peterson)
      I think the truth is, you just don't want to let go of your outdated right wing worldview. The only worldview that actively tries to fight against tackling systemic racism. (something quantifiable and backed by all data that anyone can cite. Not detabable. It's factually real.)

    • @JustMe-uc1lt
      @JustMe-uc1lt Год назад

      ​@@IamBrixTM I appreciate your feedback. However you are mistaken on three significant points:
      1: I dislike Jordan Peterson and don’t watch him. He is so egotistical as to have seemingly developed a messiah complex.
      2: I do know about post-modern theory, having studied it - along with other social theories (eg, Classical and Psychosocial) - years ago at university
      3: I’m not right wing. I despise both extremes, and am a centrist. The political pendulum serves nobody, least of all the electorate.
      Intention does matter, imho, as does communication. Too many people are aggrieved victims nowadays. We are destroying mutual respect and communication, teaching people that every social interaction is based on a power dynamic, in which one party is “oppressed”.
      I’d be interested in your definition of “factually real”, and if you understand the difference between fact and opinions. It seems to me, you have an opinion, as do I. We may both be able to cite facts in support of our opinions, but they will remain opinions.

  • @michellee2990
    @michellee2990 4 года назад +114

    This woman makes many uninformed generalizations.

    • @GinoNL
      @GinoNL 4 года назад +3

      Spot on

    • @jeffb5785
      @jeffb5785 4 года назад +2

      Are they uninformed or intentional? I think the latter.

    • @jamesdavis9036
      @jamesdavis9036 3 года назад

      @@jeffb5785 Bingo!

  • @Brillsama
    @Brillsama 8 лет назад +114

    she loses scope so fast.

  • @Red_Moon13
    @Red_Moon13 4 года назад +81

    when 10% of your speech is "like" or "umm," you don't know what you're talking about

    • @In_Case_Im_Fake
      @In_Case_Im_Fake 4 года назад +2

      ummm, like yeah!

    • @Ryfinius
      @Ryfinius 4 года назад

      Totes

    • @GinoNL
      @GinoNL 4 года назад +3

      Yep. Takes a lot of concentration to make illogical things look logical

    • @jeffb5785
      @jeffb5785 4 года назад +1

      Who said um um um more than this woman? www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Obama+um+um+um&&view=detail&mid=DD7B3B9C872B122E0CE6DD7B3B9C872B122E0CE6&&FORM=VDRVRV

    • @sashadefreitas2546
      @sashadefreitas2546 4 года назад +7

      I disagree, she is feeling a lot of emotions. One shouldn't judge on composure (hence why smooth talkers get away with so much) but rather on the content of her speech. And on that, I agree, she doesn't have a well founded argument.

  • @tsb7045
    @tsb7045 4 года назад +30

    I'm black and I can't bare to watch this

    • @tsb7045
      @tsb7045 4 года назад

      ​@gregtubez​. do you know me? man said im not a victim of racism looooool

    • @tsb7045
      @tsb7045 3 года назад

      @gregtubez Please help me understand where I've whined and also how this credits me from being a victim of racism

    • @tsb7045
      @tsb7045 3 года назад

      @gregtubez 😂😂😂 funny lad

    • @tsb7045
      @tsb7045 3 года назад

      @gregtubez haha, i feel you g. But when any type of person feels genuinely oppressed, sooner or later they will rebel.
      I still think theres alot of work that needs to be done in the world to achieve world peace.
      The current climate of western civilisation still isn't acceptable - theres UK armed forces veterans homeless and in the streets all over London.
      We need to open up a dialogue about these issues, to solve them

    • @tsb7045
      @tsb7045 3 года назад

      @gregtubez that's a big fact! I would love to talk more my g. If you're down for it, hit me with a twitter or facebook or email or whatever lool

  • @TheHominidShow
    @TheHominidShow 4 года назад +20

    I tend to take people more seriously when they are capable of stringing a sentence together.

  • @aidanw9378
    @aidanw9378 4 года назад +34

    Me: *breathes oxygen*
    Her: WHITE PRIVILEGE

  • @MasterDebater2009
    @MasterDebater2009 2 года назад +8

    "Whether you intend or not to be racist or not racist doesn't make you 'not racist'." In other words, she gets to deem what is racist or not without any merit just by how she feels.

  • @bennett4881
    @bennett4881 4 года назад +40

    Allow me to rename the video:
    -The United States was Institutionally Racist.

  • @lorenco425
    @lorenco425 8 лет назад +90

    talking points out of some sociology class + right? + liike + uhhhm = racist divisionary nonesense. well done.

    • @joeeng1
      @joeeng1 4 года назад +2

      ...+ zero courtesy for her counterparts. If she had any less class we'd have had to watch this clip with a bucket between our legs!

  • @ForeverTributesNL
    @ForeverTributesNL 4 года назад +20

    This is more than just a word soup; it's an entire cuisine! Funny how she's says blacks haven't reaped the rewards of black (musical) culture but then leaves out R&B or how about Michael Jackson and countless of blacks in the charts today? If any they are over represented. This lady should teach Sophistry.

    • @zootsoot2006
      @zootsoot2006 4 года назад +1

      Yeah, every single musical artist was exploited in the early days of pop music. Even The Beatles were massively ripped off, which is why they started their own label. Tell Gene Vincent that the music industry was racist, poor bugger died a penniless drunk having been one of the pioneers of rock and roll. And I'm sick of everyone saying rock n roll was a black art form. It was a combination of the rhythm of black R&B music and the melodic quality of white country/folk music. Chuck Berry was a big country music fan.

    • @jeffb5785
      @jeffb5785 4 года назад +2

      Speaking of music, watch the Rock music awards and watch Black singers sweep most of the awards, don't fret if you miss the all-inclusive Rock awards, you can catch the Black music awards and watch the same people win all over again, is that Black Privilege ?

    • @ForeverTributesNL
      @ForeverTributesNL 4 года назад +1

      @@jeffb5785 The truth is whites are about the only race who have a small fringe group within with outside bias and that kinda makes life difficult for everyone. Racism is just wrong but outside bias is no different. In fact, it's the same.
      This girl however is the perfect example of what Jordan Peterson would describe as being "ideologically possessed". Hate is coming out of her pores and no matter the evidence, she will keep moving the goal post. I would call her an extremist.

  • @redskyatnight123
    @redskyatnight123 4 года назад +18

    So she's allowed to ask questions and interupt but when people ask her she doesn't wanna know,

  • @JohnnyBe95
    @JohnnyBe95 4 года назад +29

    0:29 "When they talk about like,- holding hands and moving into the utopia in the future, it takes a lot of privilege, to talk about that" just had me die inside.
    "I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of "interposition" and "nullification" -- one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers." Martin Luther King Jr "I Have A Dream" speech 1963

    • @spencewhite9215
      @spencewhite9215 2 года назад +1

      You gotta Malcom X quote too?

    • @IamBrixTM
      @IamBrixTM Год назад

      Stop using the one quote white people know and twisting Dr.King's ideology to fit your narrative "That dream I had that day has turned into a nightmare-- the old optimism was a superficial." He knew that white people like you, twisted his words into a deluded liberal colorblindness, that refuses to acknowledge issues that require looking at the issue through the lens of race. It's not enough to not be racist, you have to be anti-racist.
      Dr.King would side with her, not with you. You wish to stick your head in the sand.

    • @shuntley23
      @shuntley23 Год назад

      Lol does this woman think she's really oppressed? Does she really believe that insitiutional racism exist? When no laws and policies are in place today to discriminate blacks and how laws are set in place against discrimination and to help blacks excel. Insitiutional racism is not embedded in our schools hospitals banks etc for white supremacy and bring blacks down . Her ideology is literally Critical Race Theory the original curriculum in law books. She literally took everything she read in that theory (which is bullshit) and passed this as her own. She really needs to evaluate her life and realize how hyperbolic, unoriginal, and disingenuous her speech was. She needs to go over to Iraq and really feel what's oppression for women and the war. Instead of having the choice to go to college and reep affirmative action benefits to better her life. Have the right to marry who she wants and live her life as a free person. If she works hard enough she can be whatever she wants and have the option for the American dream. But she chooses to obsess all day about racism and create her own reality. She really is talking like segregation still exists. I just don't know how she truly believes what she's talking about. She is ungrateful and lives in a delusion that she's created where she lives in oppression. it seems her data is out dated and wrong statistics. People need to tell her how far our nation has come.

  • @guidryjoseph44
    @guidryjoseph44 5 лет назад +11

    We had a black President and have more black people in Congress than ever but America has institutional racism. I make nearly 6 figures a year and have over that saved in stocks but America has institutional racism. Mike Tyson came from the hood and made over 700 million dollars knocking people out, Jay Z is from the hood and is in Forbes magazine as one of the richest rappers. That's just a small amount of successful black people who are famous not to mention myself who is not famous. This embrace of victimhood by black people is a good excuse for them to remain poor, blind and miserable. I don't agree with that ideology.

    • @BestCountryEvr
      @BestCountryEvr 4 года назад +2

      joseph guidry Not to mention her dumbass forgot to mention what’s happening in South Africa where institutionalized racism is ACTUALLY a thing. White people on farms there are getting killed, have their lands taken by the government, and live poor.

    • @Seizetheday2011
      @Seizetheday2011 4 года назад

      You're a moron. By you almost making six figures is nothing to be proud of. In fact, just making six figures is such a low marker of success. That's nothing to brag about.

    • @davidparry5310
      @davidparry5310 4 года назад

      Confirmation bias, much?

    • @davidparry5310
      @davidparry5310 4 года назад

      @@Seizetheday2011 Being rich is nothing to brag about!

  • @echosquest
    @echosquest 4 года назад +27

    Her opening is so riddled with no meaning is insane. smdh.This was an incoherient babble.

  • @FullyRaw
    @FullyRaw 8 лет назад +24

    I despair for humanity when I think that the next flock of politicians will be plucked from these idiots who are obsessed with offense.

    • @jeffb5785
      @jeffb5785 4 года назад +1

      I am getting up in years and hearing the rhetoric of this woman and so many like her make me think I might not want to live long enough to see this country taken over by them.

  • @kennethwalton6
    @kennethwalton6 4 года назад +43

    I wholeheartedly disagree. With a lot of this!!! If people like her stop making blacks victims, helped black families, the prison situation would fix itself. People like her do more damage than help.
    He doesn't get the job
    The interviewer is racist, or maybe their interviewing skills need work!

    • @IamBrixTM
      @IamBrixTM Год назад

      No, victimhood doesn't correlate with the situation black folks find themselves in. There's no evidence of that, but there is evidence of the point she makes. The prison system comes from a broken criminal justice system riddled with racial bias. Again there's documented evidence of this.

  • @onetwo19
    @onetwo19 4 года назад +30

    If I was there, I would have been standing up every minute. Aside from that, my God girl! Learn how to express yourself in English properly. Like like like....uhm uhm uhm...right right right. 13 year olds talk like that. This is a formal debate!

  • @blahdedah1334
    @blahdedah1334 3 года назад +13

    [1:04] "I've been thinking a lot about racism lately..."
    She hasn't thought about anything BUT racism, every moment of every day for her entire life. That's why she sees it everywhere it doesn't exist.

  • @WalkingRoscoe
    @WalkingRoscoe 4 года назад +7

    Narcissism and emotion give you incoherence in debate. This was the case with that young lady.

  • @hectorcruz5944
    @hectorcruz5944 4 года назад +21

    Lol! Wow! Well, I am Hispanic, the son of a Mexican Immigrant and my experience with systematic racism is about ZERO. Does racism exist, yes. Do we have other issues in our great Country, yes.
    Lol, this is ridiculous...

  • @rudebwoy9203
    @rudebwoy9203 4 года назад +13

    Guess we need to take this lady to the States, give her a tour if Chicago

    • @kristhomas8295
      @kristhomas8295 3 года назад +1

      And LA and New York and Milwaukee and The Bay Area and Atlanta...the list goes on

    • @choosen1130
      @choosen1130 Год назад

      @@kristhomas8295 what's wrong with those areas ?

  • @bricology
    @bricology 4 года назад +13

    If I believed in conspiracy theories, I'd wonder if she wasn't a plant, intended to discredit her side.

  • @eeeemmteeee
    @eeeemmteeee 3 года назад +6

    She makes statements about the achievements of black people not being recognized in a country that has a month devoted to the achievements of people with a dark skin colour.
    The amount you have to ignore to believe what she says is astounding....

    • @IamBrixTM
      @IamBrixTM Год назад

      ....you think black history month overpowers the long history of racism and the impact it has on people culturally/socially? What a ridiculous statement lol I don't even know how to respond to this.

  • @eronan03
    @eronan03 4 года назад +10

    She denied an interruption in her speech, but twice stood to speak during others'. I wonder if she was simply nervous and wanting not to break her stride. Alternately, was she opposed to granting equal interruptive power the same way she previously? To be fair, she showed patience in waiting to speak during their time.
    Also, what a false equivalence that vigilantes and police officers are equally attributed to black death statistics in The States.

  • @567891100
    @567891100 8 лет назад +11

    She said in a story in the Daily Express,
    “I should have been more attentive to the person’s body language"
    Like when she was struggling to get away you mean.

  • @steelcrown7130
    @steelcrown7130 4 года назад +13

    Oh. Dear. Incoherent.

  • @ticken1005
    @ticken1005 4 года назад +4

    If the war on drugs is ripping apart families, just dont do drugs in the first place

    • @minorears5205
      @minorears5205 4 года назад

      Drugs are intrinsically linked to poverty. That's like saying "don't be poor". You're excusing the US Government from tackling the effects of the problem rather than the source. Locking people up for doing drugs will not solve the problem, it does more to harm the problem as a matter of fact.

  • @shawnhenry3380
    @shawnhenry3380 4 года назад +11

    "Uuuuhh, like, ya know..." oh cool I've never seen a black, British valley girl before!!

  • @nathanwrzesinski3745
    @nathanwrzesinski3745 4 года назад +5

    Her complete dismissal of any alternative viewpoints is characteristic of the ideology of that political position. If you don't agree with every conclusion that is presented, you're not tolerated.

  • @stephenrochester6309
    @stephenrochester6309 4 года назад +4

    Lol - and she had the audacity to try and interrupt David Webb.

  • @Stormfox93
    @Stormfox93 4 года назад +6

    I lost her halfway. She keeps bringing up false misrepresented claims and logical fallacies. How was she even invited to speak at this debate?

    • @jeffb5785
      @jeffb5785 4 года назад

      Black Privilege, a person of her intellect would not be welcome to this forum if they were White.

  • @trevorwilliams3501
    @trevorwilliams3501 3 года назад +5

    So proud of myself. I made it a whole 5 minutes in before moving on to another speaker.

  • @richarddrapeau7599
    @richarddrapeau7599 4 года назад +10

    She has points of order for almost everyone else, yet can't let them have one...

    • @Jamie-Russell-CME
      @Jamie-Russell-CME 4 года назад

      Could you help me understand the debate rules here. I am American and ignorant of how it works. Is it interjection which is a matter of good faith etiquette?

    • @richarddrapeau7599
      @richarddrapeau7599 4 года назад

      @@Jamie-Russell-CME I'm American too. Never did formal debate. But that is my understanding. If you have something to say, seems to usually be calling into question the validity of a statement, you stand and the one who has the floor can let you speak or ignore you. The regular audience members can do this as well. Not just the teams.

    • @Jamie-Russell-CME
      @Jamie-Russell-CME 4 года назад

      @@richarddrapeau7599 thanks

  • @cds8476
    @cds8476 4 года назад +6

    She's lost her bloody marbles!

  • @rickysmelly1622
    @rickysmelly1622 4 года назад +4

    Her reasoning is insane 😳

  • @vkorchnoifan
    @vkorchnoifan 4 года назад +5

    She speaks from the heart not from the brain. Emotional speeches like her's promotes anger/hate. Don't listen to her.

  • @jatozzie8623
    @jatozzie8623 4 года назад +7

    Not a single thing she said was accurate, and most of her arguments were category fallacies (comparing apples to bananas) or if you went one step into her logic the causation wouldn't be racism but rather a lack of leadership/desirable qualities (honesty, politeness, responsibility etc.)

  • @torbreww
    @torbreww 4 года назад +22

    I'm only about one minute into this video and can already tell she is either willfully being deceptive, is self-deluded, or is seriously ill-informed. I suspect she has a victim complex because she knows it gives her privilege and power. Hard to argue that blacks are oppressed when this black woman got into Oxford.

    • @IamBrixTM
      @IamBrixTM Год назад

      "Hard to argue that blacks are opppressed when this black woman got into Oxford" How could you unironically say that and not be intellectually embarrassed? Do you think that means fuck all? It doesn't. You realize that don't you?

  • @BilliamCharby
    @BilliamCharby 4 года назад +6

    14 “like” completely out of context, much like a high schooler who has never taken speech would speak. 11 “right?” To try to affirm her opinion subconsciously. As well as several “um” that were all indicators of not being trained in public speaking. I would discount everything she said before about 8:00 as emotionally charged, because only after that did she seem to have semblance and speak from prepared material. Extremely inefficient if wanting to convince anyone of anything. I am literally disregarding the topic material, and purely noting the lack of public speaking ability.. astonishing.

    • @wtfKwaku
      @wtfKwaku 4 года назад

      this is the best critique I've seen in this comment section.

    • @jeffb5785
      @jeffb5785 4 года назад

      As Eloquent (as the MSM calls him) Former Potus Pretender, 2008-2016

  • @LlamaBearMan
    @LlamaBearMan 5 лет назад +5

    Intentions don't matter? No. Wrong. They matter a great deal.

    • @davidparry5310
      @davidparry5310 4 года назад

      Intentions matter not a jot if we're talking about institutions.

    • @LlamaBearMan
      @LlamaBearMan 4 года назад

      @@davidparry5310 and why are institutions a special pleading case when it comes to the significance of intention? Intentions are as important to understand as the results, regardless of who or what they come from.

    • @davidparry5310
      @davidparry5310 4 года назад

      @@LlamaBearMan 'why are institutions a special pleading case when it comes to the significance of intention?'
      Because institutions are comprised of individuals, and individuals aren't all going to have the same motives. They're just not. Relatedly, the motives of one set of people governing an institution may be completely different from those of their predecessors, yet the institution may well continue to operate in the exact same way.

  • @dancreek3366
    @dancreek3366 4 года назад +10

    "like" and "right" are ruining the english language. Also, I couldn't discern a point from any of that

  • @TheSchev
    @TheSchev 4 года назад +16

    Is she English. Her assumptions are an ocean away from reality. I've worked side by side with people of all races all of my life. People of all races who work and produce value for others, thrive - no matter their race. Those who don't complain and constantly want more free stuff from those who do produce - of all races. It has always been this way.

    • @davidparry5310
      @davidparry5310 4 года назад

      'People of all races who work and produce value for others, thrive'
      Bullshit!
      'Those who don't complain and constantly want more free stuff from those who do produce'
      Like big landlords and capitalists? They don't produce anything, and are always demanding more from those who do

    • @rm2kmidi
      @rm2kmidi 4 года назад

      @@davidparry5310 communist bs

    • @davidparry5310
      @davidparry5310 4 года назад

      @@rm2kmidi Great argument, chump!

    • @davidparry5310
      @davidparry5310 4 года назад

      @FEDSJ The OP was positing a relationship between providing value for others and riches, which obviously doesn't exist.

  • @chronometa
    @chronometa 4 года назад +8

    So I've seen both sides of this argument.
    1. I think we need to realize that black opinions as Always don't have some monopolized ideas about what is right for the black community. I feel like the activist stance gets way more air play than a conservative one.
    1. Leftist need to do a better job at stating facts better and giving credit to progress.
    2. Conservatives need to do a better job at expressing some level of empathy, just a tad of emotion would help win people over.
    3. I tend to lean libertarian and facts but not quite conservative black man who is atheist, and doesn't want a family. But I do recognize there are issues in the black of people being bigots or rascist. This is something that is getting called out more and more for legit reasons through phones and social media.
    We all need to acknowledge that we have come a long way with more progress needed. But when I look at the landscape this institutional/systematic rascism talk only tends to be around black people, why haven't I seen Asians, Hispanics, etc... Part of this discussion? IF I had to bet my money I would venture to say that we tend to hold ourselves back a tad more. 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @Predatorsnightmare
      @Predatorsnightmare 2 года назад

      Conservatives can’t show emotion because if you give the left an inch they take a mile I suppose that’s the purpose of politics push the two sides against each other so there is no middle ground it’s either all racism or pure victimhood

  • @AM-257
    @AM-257 4 года назад +2

    She didn't take a single point of information but raised the dumbest ones when the opposition was giving their speech xD

  • @jamespatrickmallon
    @jamespatrickmallon 4 года назад +3

    The weirdest and perhaps scariest thing about this rant was that she got loud applause at the end. These clappers are potentially the next generation of leaders!

  • @mewtew8006
    @mewtew8006 4 года назад +8

    Everything she said was stupid

  • @sicko4614
    @sicko4614 4 года назад +2

    Notice how she consistently shoots down points of information without even looking at her peers, yet when it their time to discuss their points she doesn't sit down and doesn't even applaud.

  • @BossySwan
    @BossySwan 8 лет назад +9

    Glad to see hypocrite Annie has been rumbled.

  • @derekpatterson6970
    @derekpatterson6970 8 лет назад +20

    True nature is revealed, like the faux accent it slips when riled

  • @ticken1005
    @ticken1005 4 года назад +6

    So Elvis Presley is bad now because rock and roll is black culture ?!

    • @aa.xviiii
      @aa.xviiii 4 года назад +1

      No but white ppl profit of black culture while the black origin is ignored

    • @ticken1005
      @ticken1005 4 года назад

      Abiola Afolabi and vice versa

    • @jeffb5785
      @jeffb5785 4 года назад +1

      Little Richard often claimed that Paul McCartney, Elvis Presley, and Pat Boone ripped him off. I heard no complaints when Whitney Huston had a huge hit with "I Will Always Love You" by Dolly Parton, or When Run DMC had a huge hit with "Walk This Way" by Aerosmith, I could go on but let's just cut the BS.

    • @pokemasterx4244
      @pokemasterx4244 3 года назад

      @@aa.xviiii do you think of the origin of any of the music you listen to?

  • @conforzo
    @conforzo 4 года назад +2

    "So victim victim victim victim, and therefore victim victim victim victim. But don't forget victim victim victim victim"

  • @abbynormall207
    @abbynormall207 4 года назад +7

    She is clueless

  • @mozarth
    @mozarth 4 года назад +4

    Wow, this is a great disappointment. With her eagerness on cutting her opponent speakers to insert loaded questions, I was expecting her to rain down on them like an iron fist. Oxford Union should be a little careful to keep the stimulating content on par with their average. I felt like I was watching a modern art show where heavily intoxicated drag queens read weird & meaningless poems and cry on the stage. I mean at least they don't get stuck on "um..."
    Why is it always visually incoherent looking & low self esteem vibing and ugly people like Al Sharpton, Ms. Annie or Aaron Dixon defending the continuation of black indoctrination about the existence of some ambiguous invisible racist element that they can't see, touch or describe accurately, but is certainly there and will surely ruin their lives no matter what they do, whereas people like David Webb, Joe R. Hicks, Thomas Sowell are the ones clearly looking at the race relations from an obviously positive perspective that putting the burden of being responsible entirely on the individual, supporting their arguments with tangible, realistic and with real-world examples?
    Is this because they don't have anything to gain from being expected to fall behind so they can compensate for their lack of discipline with simple & overly repeated excuses?

  • @KiCreativeStudioJP
    @KiCreativeStudioJP 4 года назад +3

    “Youth, is the most beautiful thing in this world-and what a pity that it has to be wasted on children.” - George Bernard Shaw
    Maybe in 20 years after she has read a little more history and facts, engaged people on both sides of the aisle with sincerity a little more, she will look back on this with a more informed and properly discriminating perspective.

  • @dustin3596
    @dustin3596 4 года назад +2

    And yet the cannot name one racist law

  • @DT-ul6qy
    @DT-ul6qy 4 года назад +2

    She might grow up and relinquish her distain were she to read Thomas Sowell's latest book, "Discriminations and Disparities" or watch David Webb's RUclips video, "The US is not Institutionally Racist"....
    She doesn't realize that we are ALL the makers of our own destiny. Blaming others for our station in life equates to weakness, cowardous and poverty. The evidence is overwhelming.

  • @jamesrountree3991
    @jamesrountree3991 4 года назад +3

    Of course she rejects individual responsibility!! Let's chase ghosts!!!!

  • @nathanwood6707
    @nathanwood6707 4 года назад +2

    In her first point, she says it takes a lot of privilege to talk about fixing the problems experienced by people of other demographics (Blacks, Hispanics, and Native Americans) when you aren't part of those demographics. Well, I can't help but notice that she is English. So I think she should take her own advise, lay down her privilege, and stop talking about how to fix American problems if that's how she feels.

  • @JohnGeometresMaximos
    @JohnGeometresMaximos 4 года назад +3

    As they would say in the hood:
    "THAT WAS TERIBA!"

    • @junetynf
      @junetynf 4 года назад

      You said hood. That's racist. I'm reporting you 😆

  • @Yourmom-ww1sp
    @Yourmom-ww1sp 3 года назад +2

    I would’ve been able to take her argument seriously if she spoke like a mature person and didn’t speak like Joe Biden I’d take her seriously

  • @ahadkhwaja4084
    @ahadkhwaja4084 4 года назад +2

    She doesn't even let anybody else ask a question or comment. She just says "no thank you" Whereas she gets up a million times when the opposition is talking. Unlike her, the opposition actually allows her to ask a question or make a comment during their speech. She probably knows how stupid her points are, that's why she's afraid of letting the real intellectuals say something. Just my opinion

  • @hen2005
    @hen2005 4 года назад +1

    Some people proactively making a living of "fighting racism" are actually the worst racists.

  • @arctic3032
    @arctic3032 4 года назад +1

    "Let's see how many misrepresented statistics I can find in the wild, to build a strawman and shift blame unto others for my inferiority complex"

  • @MonaLisaFace
    @MonaLisaFace 4 года назад +1

    Literally in her first sentence out of her mouth... she forsakes all intention to dialogue about substance, and demonstrates her focus is on purely on process. Her mistrust of anyone else having the dialogue. How can any meaningful discussion be had with someone like that? No concession, no ally will ever be enough for this mentality.

  • @adamskinner5868
    @adamskinner5868 4 года назад +4

    What utterly crap arguments, I'm guessing this person is an academic who was taught this crap and now teaches it to others. Her arguments were all justg anti-US, throwing in random stats but lacking real evidence, POC over represented in prison but also over represented in crime stats. Her comments about cultural appropriation because Elvis made money from his music but those who developed the style didn't is silly. Plenty of POC have made huge sums through music, sport and business, etc, they have reached the top of US society in numerous fields, do the athletes who are paid millions for playing sport invent the games, of course not, just crappy arguments unworthy of an Oxford debate.

  • @jmonty7874
    @jmonty7874 4 года назад +1

    This sounds like a history class rather than a speech of modern day racial systemic problems.

  • @jamoma3649
    @jamoma3649 4 года назад +1

    1850----1.2billion population
    2015-----7.3 billion population

  • @emptyspacebluefireball
    @emptyspacebluefireball 4 года назад +3

    Institutional racism is not a real thing. If you want I'll tell you why. Just say the word and I'll explain.

  • @Cocytus127
    @Cocytus127 3 года назад +2

    It doesn't help your case if you're so emotionally invested in a topic of debate that you allow your emotions to take the reigns. Granted she was demonstrably wrong on so many levels, it would have still been more enjoyable to listen to her speak if she kept calm and remained concise.

  • @stevenwiederholt7000
    @stevenwiederholt7000 3 года назад +1

    What is a Nigerian-British student doing talking about racism in America?

  • @guidryjoseph44
    @guidryjoseph44 5 лет назад +7

    She spews so much crap that it's drying her mouth!! She can't possibly believe what she is saying..

    • @BestCountryEvr
      @BestCountryEvr 4 года назад +2

      joseph guidry Nah. I think she was born to be stupid.

  • @mrage22r
    @mrage22r 4 года назад +1

    She says that Institutions and Individuals are necessarily linked. Did she just make David Webb's argument? Isn't his main point that we need to look at the foundations of the individual and improve an individuals condition. If you make institutions filled with strong individuals then you get strong institutions.

  • @cyc7lops
    @cyc7lops 4 года назад +2

    What I hope for this young woman is that one or more of the other speakers and faculty took her aside to discuss her presentation, provided counseling and mentoring, and that afterward, with more education and experience, she is now a totally different person, who can look back and discuss this event with humor, compassion, and wisdom. People make mistakes, especially when young. Such a transformation would then make for a very interesting presentation at the Oxford Union.

  • @Liberto26
    @Liberto26 3 года назад +2

    This is just emotion sadly.

  • @mitchellokeefe7053
    @mitchellokeefe7053 4 года назад +1

    I notice how one side entertained the other when they stood up and one side did not when the opposition stood up

  • @deltekkie7646
    @deltekkie7646 2 года назад +1

    The US does not support coups do destabilize democratic countries. They DO however help to overturn communist and socialist-Marxist countries.

  • @In_Case_Im_Fake
    @In_Case_Im_Fake 4 года назад +4

    This is such an awful take. Feelings feelings feelings. This reminds me of a five year old whining about not getting a fistful of candy before dinner. Wah Wah Wah! I say, eliminate excuses for black people, all of the excuses, meet every one of their demands. make it so they no longer can use race as an excuse for their perceived plight. What is left at the end of the day will be the same issues they have always had, and it won't be racism.

  • @ladym7852
    @ladym7852 3 года назад +1

    I wonder how she feel now that the BLM leader "resigned" after buying 4 or 5 houses and NOT helping the blk communities here in 'Merica.

  • @A_massive_wog
    @A_massive_wog 4 года назад +6

    Not American. EEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYHHHHH. You're out.

    • @Dan-yh7ve
      @Dan-yh7ve 4 года назад

      lmao is that a Chris D'Elia mannerism reference? Regardless EEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYHHHHH. You're right!

  • @harrycooper5231
    @harrycooper5231 2 года назад +1

    Anyone who can read can discover that virtually every peer reviewed study finds systemic racism exists in the USA in whatever aspect of American culture it's examining.

    • @ChordOfC
      @ChordOfC 2 года назад +1

      Agreed. The people who don't want change also don't do any actual research. I can pull up several peer reviewed studies on a range of different areas of society. What boggles my mind is when I show it to people the response is "well that doesn't prove anything, it's complicated." It's like they don't want to know. Yes it is complicated, and that's why we have these studies. And the trend obviously shows evidence of racial bias in the system.

  • @abrahamlincoln2328
    @abrahamlincoln2328 4 года назад +1

    Someone who thinks like herself, thinking she is perhaps informed, educated, well read and righteous of her own beliefs would come across as someone who carries morality in their stead. Well this couldn't be further from the case. Would it surprise anyone that she resigned herself from the Oxford Student Union after 2 women accused her of rape, and in which she tried to paint herself the victim? Would it also come as a surprise that she wasn't removed from her University course? Whereas, if this was a male student they would have likely been demonised and subjugated to the fault of their own actions?
    Amazing.

  • @matteotavone4552
    @matteotavone4552 4 года назад

    Where did she get her information from? Facebook?

  • @jeffrey8488
    @jeffrey8488 4 года назад

    Does anyone know how the vote ended in this forum ?

  • @gangiskhan6948
    @gangiskhan6948 4 года назад +2

    Out of all the intellectual and enlightening debates on this fascinating channel. This has to be the most incoherent and ludicrous one yet, I thought this was Oxford university, the best in the world. It’s shouldn’t be a place to express anti- white propaganda and straight up myths. But I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion. Well this isn’t an opinion more like a myth but whatever.

  • @AtomkeySinclair
    @AtomkeySinclair Год назад

    Do we collectively believe what we are told, or do we search out the truth. If the latter then we find no distributed conflict, but harmony.

  • @shapshooter8669
    @shapshooter8669 4 года назад +1

    Can we get a counter for every time she said "like" so "so like"?

  • @faroukbul4194
    @faroukbul4194 4 года назад +3

    Elvis got rich on black labour or something. O, and she won the debate acording to OU.

    • @NBblowyouup71
      @NBblowyouup71 4 года назад

      Farouk Bul Did she actually win the debate

  • @kntrlr
    @kntrlr 4 года назад +1

    She made tons of allegations, and provided exactly zero support for any of those allegations. Worst debate performance ever recorded.

  • @wearenixx5833
    @wearenixx5833 Год назад

    How ignorant she is to not let that man counter her argument when she literally does the same thing twice while someone else was speaking.

  • @RobertBrown-eb4co
    @RobertBrown-eb4co 3 года назад +1

    Only a person who has lived through this pathetic situation in America can explain it with coherence. There are many factors that the skillful manipulators can counter point because they have devoted years to understanding. It is real and will exist as long as people are too afraid to accept and stand against it.

    • @takenote7085
      @takenote7085 Год назад

      You've been sold a lie by the democrats.

  • @umaarabdullah8814
    @umaarabdullah8814 2 года назад +1

    It takes courage to get up in front of this many people to share an incoherent argument - (2)