Heroforge Rookie Mistakes
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Rather than a list of tips of what you CAN do, here is a tip of what you SHOULDN'T do. Also, wait until the end of the video for some information about how you can get your model featured in an upcoming old-to-new video.
EDIT - This video is by now quite old and the submission-announcement at the end is no longer open.
HOWEVER, I still host similar contests and my more recent videos have much higher production quality than these old ones, so I recommend checking out some of the more recent stuff!
Specifically, this video is designed to compile a lot of my older guides into one short digestible up-to-date video: ruclips.net/video/L5cf3wKkvWg/видео.html&ab_channel=Derf
I hate that there isn't a decent rapier. I think they just don't want to print anything long and thin because it will break
REJOICE
They have better rapiers... For portraits and tokens.
Now unless a model already has an old rapier, those of us who actually want to print these things have to deal with an extremely brittle rapier.
Victory!
There’s a newer version that is just that
Fun video if you want to watch it. There's a guy that puts hero forge to the test on how durable they're figures are and how well they package them for shipping. So he made 2 or 3 stupid designs and made them as skinny and breakable as possible. Be really wanted the figures to break during shipping. In the end, all of them were intact
As someone who is colorblind, I find the themes kinna nice because it saves me from the uncertainty of if these colors even go together.
If I painted _all_ of my minis myself they would all be very monochromatic with a splash of color.
Regarding the cartoony proportions, the models are designed to be 3d-printed as physical miniatures in (roughly) 28mm scale. So, for HeroForge's primary intended purpose, the height guide is accurate for conventional 28mm "heroic scale"
Ayup, it's true. But you can also print models that are closer to "7ft" tall and they will generally look more like actual people than the "6ft" ones that look like Hobbits
I've gone through my current line and looked for default settings I've missed, and change them ever so slightly. The whole point is to have custom miniatures not look alike miniatures. I find I paint my heroes like I would if they were real miniatures - undercoat, base coats, highlights and shadows which gives a more unified palette as I tweak colors in the mix to suit the character, whether it will be "dark", "neutral" or "pale". I'm usually looking for a "grim dark" Gane of Thrones kind of gritty realism, rather than bright fantasy.
Regarding the themes, they're good for a base color idea for minis. When I can't think of any good color schemes I'll slap a theme onto it and work the colors around to fit what I'm going for. They're a good starting point for the color
Agreed! It helps with inspiration :)
This
Wow! Mind blown seeing you overlap same model twice to overlap weapons and get more belt items.... SUBSCRIBED!!!!
In addition to having no skill with the advanced posing techniques, my colorblindness makes custom color schemes quite difficult. I'm sure it's a long shot but here goes: Wêníí is a forest gnome swashbuckler (5e) archaeologist who prides himself on recovering powerful artefacts and keeping them from falling into the hands of creatures who do naughty things. He loves a good mystery and looking for secret doors and lives to pick locks and disable traps. He isn’t much on intimidating folks but would much rather talk his way out of a fight with an more powerful opponent than resort to combat. To this end, he doesn’t mind a little bit of lying now and then. His favorite tactic in combat is the ‘hit and fade’. Attack with fury and then move away before the bigger creature can hit him. I am also impressed with your skill at giving Hero Forge characters so much personality. In these 2 iterations, his expression is so life-less… I think of Wêníí as a mostly jolly fellow who would rather make friends than enemies. He’s always got a joke on his lips for his traveling companions. He spends his evenings in the pub or his study reviewing maps of far away places and esoteric ruins in front of the fire with his nez pince glasses on the end of his nose or wandering thru the wilderness looking for mushrooms. Thank you for you time in reading this little backstory.
Here is a link to Wêníí sneaking down a corridor in Strahd’s castle: www.heroforge.com/load_config%3D34748706/ Here is Wêníí riding on his favorite mount, Bârsk: www.heroforge.com/load_config%3D37259451/ Bârsk’s name is gnomish for ‘Gruff’ and he has 2 older brothers who love to hunt trolls. Best Regards, Jefferson Kirkland Savannah, GA
I like using the themes, personally, because it's convenient for clothes and weapons to swap in with colors already applied, colors I can always change or delete later if I hate them- or do absolutely nothing with if I like them.
Clothes and gear spawning in uncolored bothers me a lot more than when they spawn in with shit colors.
I am learning so much about Hero Forge! Thank you so much for these videos!
I had no idea decals were even a thing, or HAND POSING for that matter! I'll be exploring Hero Forge more while I update my recently made models!
And thank you for the kind words! :D
I don't think themes are a "trap". They certainly aren't something to use on more elaborate characters, but they can be really useful for more basic character.
I do wish there was more variety though, especially since some themes are a little too similar to each other. I think much like we occasionally get updated items, we could really use some updated themes.
Thanks for posting this video! I had no idea you could change hand poses.
I'm playing a Dark Elf Arcane Trickster Rogue named Alyssa. She left her village because the elders were pressuring her and her girlfriend to split up and settle down with warriors from their village instead. Her girlfriend gave in, so Alyssa fled so she can explore the world and find a new place that she can call home. Once she finds that place and finishes her adventures, her long term goal is to settle down and open up a tea & bookstore.
We're playing in a world where dark elves are outcasts, but she's very outgoing and likes being the center of attention when they stop at taverns. I play her as more of a bard in those situations, despite her not being very good at it and frequently failing. She just tries to put on a smile and do her best. She wants to put herself out there and meet more friends.
Her outgoing personality hides her best abilities. She has very high stealth and sleight of hand. She uses spells like Mage Hand and Disguise Self to get into places she shouldn't and steal from those who treat others poorly. She's also quick to come to someone's defense when they're being put down. In combat, she usually attacks from range with a shortbow
www.heroforge.com/load_config%3D28694343/
For actual rookies watching this:
Please take everything Derf said with a grain of salt as most of it was their pet peeves and being slightly elitist. The themes are great for a baseline, and you can use them to paint significantly faster with the fill tool. And people almost never notice he default hand.
Yeah and like half his models are double layered and/or XL to the point of being super inflexible to updates and overpriced for the slight improvements
@@ShugoAWayI don’t think the price matters here, bc this is talking about making heroforge characters to look good in the software.
If you’re making a character to buy and print, you probably shouldn’t really even bother with the heroforge painting, at least IMO. And the default proportions are good for a miniature.
The themes are only good if you don't accidently wanne leave a part unpainted, like a armor piece hidden on your wrist, or a small gap of a ring
The only actual use for the themes is for looking for changed colors that aren't available in the main selection. To avoid all the excess colors that you don't want from coming back when you change clothes or gear on your mini, all you need to do is individually copy the hex codes of the color you want, open a new tab and temporarily paste them in the search bar, go back to the Hero Forge tab and click the back button until you reach the point before selected the theme, duplicate or select a new color and replace all it's hex codes with the ones you pasted in the the new tab. You can then do whatever you want from there.
Thanks for the advice, but I'm going to defend the elven heavy armor. Not all elves are lightly armored archers, and the armor is clearly based on the armor used in the prologue scene of Fellowship of the Ring.
The heavy armor that Blood elf guards where in warcraft, sums well that you can make heavy elven armor look badass!!!
I’m actually in favor of how HeroForge proportions their models, at a distance (or if something is small) people are going to want to draw their attention to 3 places on a figure, the face and hands, even some classical sculptures follow this idea. And since they’re supposed to essentially be board game pieces in their final state, I’m willing to give some allowance on stylization.
That said, I agree wholeheartedly about the other pitfalls people using HeroForge fall into, unless y’all’s characters are dual wielding or are just holding stuff in general, pose your hands. (But in the case of holding weapons, it does look better in a lot of circumstances to give them the alternate grip, makes it look more natural)
Yeah not sure what his obsession is with photo realistic proportions for a mini...they are supposed to be slightly exaggerated to show the important parts (yes the eyes are big but that is so you can notice the color at a distance on a game board, yes the old options are less detailed but those also can be useful if you are trying to draw attention towards something more important
You know, I've been using heroforge for ages now, and using 2 models stacked on top of eachother for more/illegal details did not occur to me once
Not me man ... I live an breath on this website . My only pet peive is that they don't allow enough options to make monster minis ... such as having a snake for a tail like a chimera . Or a spider body like the drow spider queen .... I want a predator like mouth and rapture talons ... u get what Im saying ?
I absolutely agree - I personally generally make human characters more than monsters, but if the options for monsters were more accessible, I would probably be all over it too
@@Derfholm I wish I could post pic in the comments like face book ... I have found some ways to manipulate what they do Give you
I’m sure things like that will come eventually, but now that you mention it a spider body for legs sounds awesome.
Nice vid, and i just wanted to mention that simply because of the way you said the word, “theme” i could tell you were swedish lol.
There are some themes that look great on my character and then I twink it to look more in line how I imagine my character to be!
i use the themes to more easily group colors and paintbucket colors that are the same. i rarely ever leave original theme colors
Hey man, found your vids and I gotta say I love them! I’ll be making sure to check them out whenever a new vid goes up!
I also wanted to send over one of my Miniatures to see if anything can be improved with him:
Here’s Bellphius, A former desperate scientist who made a deal with a sinister demigod warlock. As a result he’s attained Demigod-hood and a vastly monstrous and animalistic appearance akin to that of a hybrid of a dog and bear. Now a prominent member of the warlock’s cult, he does what he can to further the cult’s (or his own) power.
He himself is highly dedicated to his work. Above all else he values the pursuit of scientific progress, and as a demigod, has little regard for human things such as "morality" or "ethics." Believing that progress is best attained when (and especially) at the expense of others. He’s willing to sacrifice humans and others in the name of furthering his experiments, which at the moment is building a large army of robots possessed by souls. He works in a very scrapmetal/steampunk environment, and was partially inspired by sundowner from MGRR.
www.heroforge.com/load_config%3D28805328/
Hope that wasn’t a long infodump! Really enjoyed your vids, and I hope he has a chance at being picked, lol!
(Edit: right, wanted to mention, the glowing orange decals are meant to be visually representative of his ability, which is a magically-enhanced regeneration serum that courses through his veins and bloodstream)
I color all the mini clothing as one color and then change details to complimentary ones.
Hm... I started heroforge only a week ago and i seem to have completely dodged these mistakes, i always build things from the ground up, set every bar to the most accurate and experiment to see if i can make something a bit better.
You my friend are a lot smarter than I was back when I started out :D
before i discovered hero forge i used heromachine to make characters but since flash is no longer around i think hero forge is a better replacement
I only use themes if I don't know what a color is called.
4:12 - I know where you are coming from, but it’s a cartoony stylised kind of visual with odd proportions.
That’s why everyone default looks like a half-ling.
How does you characters gloves look when you order the mini in comparison... can u see all the detail in the sword ?
2:22 Viva La Dirt League reference lets go!
That sword is closer to a tachi than a katana.
Wait, you're Swedish? Ah, I could have guessed. Your speech pattern's really similar to Iskall85.
I haven't the foggiest clue who that is, but yeah I do have a bit of an unshakeable hint of swedish to my accent
@@Derfholm He's a swedish Minecraft youtuber. Though, your... uh... accent isn't really noticeable, it's just this liiiittle scsndinavian hint.
I wish there was a company that made minis that didn't look so cartoony!
It's a very niche market unfortunately, but you can make reasonably gritty and realistic models with Heroforge once you know your way around it. Eldritch Foundry however has a slightly more realistic style, but it doesn't have half the diversity of Heroforge and it also completely lacks colour in its digital version, so, it's not quite so competitive
@@Derfholm Elditrich Foundry also lacks the accessory and weapons posing capability of Hero Forge. Positioning stuff just right on a mini, is do-able in Hero Forge, but cannot be done as well or at all on Eldritch Foundry.
IDK... Art is art you know...
should leave out the dislike part, pretty depressing to hear and we need more positivity in this community.
that elven armor is totally "inspiredy by" skyrim.
question about the themes: is using the settings gear an alright idea?
Elaborate on what you mean by 'settings gear', I'm not quite sure i understand
@@Derfholm the gear at the top right when you select themes
Yes it is, I always do it then change anything I don’t like under ‘Mix’
Are you swedish?
All hail the Knug of Svealand, Carl XVI Gustaf the Great!
I hate it when I find out that my old minis are colored with the theme option. I was like saying this to myself, "You uncreative dumbass. Why did you use the theme option when coloring this mini?" And I always decide to re-color that mini.
Sorry, I didn't mean that people who use the theme option are dumbass. I think that the theme option just limits my creativity to discover tons of colour varieties.
That Viva La Dirt League frame, man you have immense culture
Gotta respect the Bodger
Hmm not sure if my comment came up or has been hidden. I'll cut down on the glib whit and repost. Critique interested: www.heroforge.com/load_config%3D27914536/ Character history: Giant ant like spider thing (legs hidden with scenery)
Likes catching adventurers and eating them.
It seems you are not the only one. A few other comments I've had notifications for have also gone invisible for some reason. I'm looking into figuring out why