Reminds me of this dream I had where I was playing the original doom you described it perfectly though because I recognized it as doom but some things were off
Right off the bat, I just wanna say, the way in which RE1 and RE2 played out with the two characters that are supposed to be kinda working together but not really, and they randomly split up and barely see each other at all, that makes a hell of a lot less sense than just having two separate stories in the first place. Because let's be honest, if you suddenly found yourself in the middle of a city infested with zombies, and you find another human that's not a complete moron, are you REALLY gonna split up? Is that REALLY the best way to survive?
Pretty sure it’s because they couldn’t make a good AI partner considering that even almost 2 decades later the AI partner in Resident Evil Revelations 2 was still as dumb as a rock and is more of a liability than help.
lol best example being in resident evil 3 when Carlos gets the vaccine, informs Jill that Nemesis is back and stronger then ever, followed by 'I got to go and take care of a few things'
It's funny. The "they ended up having to almost completely redo the game" part is usually the point in the story when the franchise goes off the rails into its certain doom.
1998 was magic! PlayStation vs Nintendo and friends coming over to play golden eye for hours and all my friends running home when i played RE 2 b/c they thought it was evil!
Well, the title does literally have the word "Evil" in it, so they weren't completely wrong. But yes, the mid- to late-90's were some of the best years to be a gamer I agree, though the early 90's with the Sega/Nintendo rivalry at it's hottest point was also a really good couple of years.
I wish the original makers would finish this and present it as a "what if" story. Not even a remake, just take the assets that exist and finish things as close to the original vision as possible. I would definitely buy it.
Wouldn't happen, though, as much as resident evil has moved away from the mediocre shooters like 5 toward making serious horror games again, developers don't get why these games with their fixed camera angles and pre-rendered backgrounds were so good at the time, or why they've aged so well. I'd love this format of survival horror to come back, but I don't see it happening. Pre-rendered backgrounds have come back into fashion with isometric rpgs but that's about it really.
Like a lot of courses a lot of them won't know shit anyway, it's like taking a sound engineering course and having some know-it-all teach you that the ultra-compressed modern production sound is good. A lot of people then end up working at studios and really have it in their heads that pop and metal produced this way objectively sounds better (even though it's technically really awfully produced music with zero dynamic range), and you won't be able to convince them otherwise, because some professor told them so. It's probably the same with game design. Like a lot of things that get more and more commercial and standardised, games and developers now overlook why these games worked so well back in the day, the sheer genius of their design despite the technical limitations. No they don't work well on a design level as shooter games, but they aren't meant to be shooter games, they are horror and survival games first and foremost, and the maps, camera angles and placing of enemies are all deliberate to increase the tension. Most modern games these days simply see you either being chased (Amnesia, Alien Isolation) or they rely on pure gore and visual horror. I'd say the last truly brilliant (and brilliantly designed) horror games were the project zero/fatal frame games, and despite their clunkiness, the siren games. Dead Space 1 and 2 were very good attempts though
@@SweetChildofMine-l5y they literally have werewolves and giant vampire ladies that moronic simps lust over. They could bring back a biker chick. Chill
1.5 has a special place in my heart for some reason , When I was a kid I used to buy all the gaming magazines and loved looking at the screenshots and artwork of 1.5 , I love Elza's Biker outfit design as well and loved the design of the R.P.D , ALWAYS wanted to play it and never thought I would , but then that day came and I tell you now I was screaming and very shocked that a build of the game was finally leaked and I wasn't disappointed , I am also following the team who are re creating the the full game and also have a demo of their latest release of the 1.5 Battle coliseum which is super fun and also has a model viewer.
I had roughly the same exact experience. Always was obsessed with it, and never thought I would actually get to play it. I can't wait till those guys finish it!!!
@@HollyMontgomery98 Haha, I'm wondering that too! All this time later and all I can find is the Battle Colosseum and a hack for the leaked iso, but I can't find the leaked iso.
I read numerous articles regarding it and I really can't fathom why they scrapped. I mean, I've read about why but it seems to me they either overthought it or lacked confidence in it's design. Like IGAS said in a Kotaku interview. They went the safe route doing it over.
Looking at the actual finished product that 2 turned out to be, I can't blame them, but damn I would have loved to play an officially finished ver of 1.5!! Back when I first found out about it, I had just finished both campaigns, and I felt like I stumbled into a whole new world. I think I have more nostalgia for what I imagined the game to be like, based on the few grainy images and videos I could find.
It was nice to play some version of the game but it didn't do it justice given how empty and buggy it was. Felt sort of like walking around an empty amusement park. At the very least it would be nice to hear a full inside story about it from the creators but anytime you ask Kamiya or Mikami about it they either brush it aside or block you lol.
@@AvalancheReviews I remember reading about RE1.5 long before RE2 was ever released, so when RE2 finally came out and I heard that they scrapped the old version, I was pretty sad. Believe me, I was surprised to find out they leaked the old version I actually wanted to play. RE2's released version was just so good though most of us forgot about the build we never received.
If Capcom really wanted to create some goodwill with their customers they would include a finished version of this game as an unlockable bonus to the supposed upcoming Resident Evil 2 remake.
Like you said it has a very surreal feel to it. It's like a trip back in time but into an alternate timeline, and it just makes you wonder what RE2 would've looked like in that alternate reality where this game goes into completion and how it would've affected the rest of the series. Cool vid Avalanche!
I read an article by the developers saying they were incorporating ideas or little details lost in 1.5 like some characters and such and someone made a video comparing them. Cause they didnt want to make a full on remake they wanted to give more to fans
They Actually Did Include A lot From 1.5 In Both Resident Evil 2 Remake And Some From Resident Evil 3 Remake One Thing That Did Make It From 1.5 Into The Remake Is Battle Damage If A Zombie Bit You It Could Tear Through Your Outfit
6:18 I love that chief irons office design with the reddish orange light coming through the window blinds hitting the ground. Think I like this police station more than the actual re2 police station lol
RE2 was my first survival horror game ever, and obviously my first RE game (and helped me overcome my phobia of zombies!), so it will always have a nostalgic place in my heart. As such, I'm super stoked about this remake, especially seeing as how they appear to be mixing in elements of 1.5 into the classic 2 formula to please as many fans as possible (of course, there will always be the vocal minority of toxic fans who refuse to accept anything other than a direct 1:1 recreation of the original, but they're easy enough to ignore haha!) and it looks super slick for that. I haven't been this excited for a modern game in a long, long time.
The first time I ever heard about Resident Evil I was in 5th grade (1998) and we had these magazines that covered science and social studies. One discussed video games and violence (predictably) and had a screenshot of the room from 5:25 in it with the caption "Things get ugly in Resident Evil" or something along those lines. Knowing that the screen grab was of the police station in 1.5, I can finally stop questioning why I never recognized that background. It also confirms my two suspicions that 1, they didn't really play Resident Evil and 2, they did not really know what they were talking about. Also I love your retrospectives, they were my main reason for subscribing and binge watching them all endlessly.
I'm not hoping for a finished version of 1.5, but I am hoping for elements from 1.5 to make it into the RE2 remake. Maybe give the RPD some new areas with these designs, or make some new areas that shares some of these designs. Maybe give Claire an Elza Walker skin as an unlock, or just her outfit. Something like that!
Ever Downward well you got your wish brah. The RE2 remake is being reimagined and rebuilt from the ground up. Giving them room to combine RE 1.5 and RE2 . Plus a Elza Walker skin for Claire in the deluxe edition.
I always was disappointed that the crawling part of the zombies was removed considering how interesting a game mechanic it was. You showed it in the video, how they crawled under the shutters as well as the shotgun blasts, but just the fact that if one went for the easier leg shot you were "rewarded" with having to either shoot or run away from the still alive enemy made it much more of a survival horror. It likely was removed for technical reasons but I really thought it was a shame they took away a fun and fair balancing mechanic.
I actually think it wasn't in the released game because Japan has strict laws on showing dismemberment in games. That's why a lot of US made games have to censor decapitations when they get localized over there.
Maybe I'm having a Mandela Effect, but I seem to remember there being crawling torsos in RE2? Or maybe that was just something they left out of the PS1 version and managed to restore into the N64 and PC ports, as those are the versions I'm most familiar with.
there never were crawling torsos, only zombies, just like on this game on the zombies crawling out of the area where elza is facing when the game begins
I still remember seeing the first original photos of RE2/1.5, it looked awesome to me and had me hyped. Going back online and looking at those photos again, still gives me the vibes I had then. Obviously the RE2 we ended up getting was still badass.
Re 1.5 from what I heard from the community is that it should be available out next year FINALLY to download or whatever. Lets all make it happen so it could exist.
As intriguing as this prototype footage can be, I’ve always found it rather strange how fans seem to be very attached to Elza Walker and “want her back” when she is quite literally Claire. Not just that, but people are commenting how this game looks better, more interesting, even “credible” and want it to be officially released... Kind of odd. All is known about the script is merely small details from the leaks. However, it was deemed as uninteresting, not scary and lacking of depth and coherence according to Okamoto, Sugimura and even Kamiya (he now happily admits he is relieved it was cancelled). The visuals were too “neon-ish” and Hollywood looking for what is supposed to be an authentic horror experience. Isn't that what everyone wants the franchise to be? Sugimura rewrote the story with the purpose of making it engaging, connected to the first entry and giving supporting characters, such as Ada and Sherry, plot relevance instead of being one-dimensional like they were in 1.5. Not to mention, bringing the iconic T-102 Tyrant into the setting. While I agree it would've been cool to have an expanded armoury and the ability to rip zombies in half, I disagree with people saying the final product is lacking. Personally, the fact that the members of S.T.A.R.S. were ridiculed and persecuted, while the chief of police has secret ties with Umbrella is a far more fascinating narrative. The franchise is all about being evil after all. I am relieved Resident Evil 2 turned out to be the game we all know and love. I trust the team’s decision of starting back from zero. Thanks to that, we also got “The 4th Survivor” mode.
Appreciate your take on this. I think people can often get really swept up by the "what could have been" emotion. The Resident Evil 2 we did get was meant to be: it's one of the best games of all-time, and a personal favorite of so, so many fans. I also think this playable bit of the game fits nicely into the speculative lore of the series--it's fun to get to see what was, imagine what would have been and discuss and share. But I do agree, and think it's a bit of stretch to say that what we see here should have dethroned what we actually did get in RE2.
Agreed. If this game came out instead of the official one we got, Resident Evil might have not gone any further. Wasn't their also plans to end the series with this game anyway?
Huge huge RE fan here, I dunno how I'm just coming across your channel now. Love the video, nice pacing with good production value...! Keep it up as I feel you're pretty underrated atm...
Being in game dev a while now the amount of this near finished builds of games that exist at studios but have never been seen even in screens is staggering. Love seeing some pop up over the years like this.
Even if I really like RE2, I readily admit that the universe created for RE1.5 seems to me a bit more interesting, more credible (as much as a RE can be, of course), the atmosphere that arises seems to me closer to the works of Romero, much more visceral and agonizing, like a mirror distorting our own reality. The game had very good ideas such as the armor to wear that was damaged during the fighting, the way that Leon and Elza hold their weapons and more widely the environment, I prefer the police station of 1.5 to that of RE2 for example . Anyway thank you for this video.
Glad you liked it! I think I prefer the look of 1,5's station too. I think it just fits in with my natural tastes a little better. I like that type of modern look.
You're welcome, you deserve it. Do you think in the future to look at the Dino Crisis series (and Dino Stalker) or Deep Fear (the acting is hilarious) ?
I came here after seeing a video about the new clothes that the remade version of RE2 was inspired by the RE1.5 character designs. You bringing up the visual damage models reminded me about the visual damage seen in the E3 demo of the remade version. Thats really impressive that they are going back to their old drawing board to improve the gameplay and the visual style of the remake.
Not being a big RE fan (don't skin me alive!) I've never caught much information on this build, let alone knew of its late 'release'. Very interesting and thank you very much for covering this in this much detail. It's always great, as well as sad, to learn of games that could have been. Love the series thus far man, keep up the awesome work!
Don't you tell me who not to skin alive!!! Ha! Thanks man, I really appreciate that. If a non fan can get into these videos, then I must be doing something right.
I know you here it over and over again, but I have to say thank you for uploading this. I immediately subscribed to your channel. The ps1 was my first game system, and resident evil 1 was one of the first and last games I remember my father playing. We indulged in the game during the daytime on the weekends. I'll never forget beating the game with him. And when I watched this I just had a chill down my spine, thinking of those memories with my dad. I love resident evil. He said what he remembers the most is trying to find those fucking ink ribbons 🤣 thank you again for sharing your thoughts on this game!
I share the same exact feelings about 1.5 as you. Back during the PSX days, I subscribed to Playstation Underground and Sony would send those double CD packs with demos and info on upcoming titles (I still have all of those discs!). I can remember getting the disc set that had the first footage of this game, I must have watched it 100 times! Later on, I modded my Playstation and started tracking down imports, betas, basically anything unreleased or rare... RE 1.5 was always my holy grail. I found a few games that were supposed to be RE 1.5 but ended up being early builds of the official RE2. It's so awesome to see this as playable. The PSX days were definitely an amazing time to be into gaming!
Yeah, the ps1 era was absolute most fun time to be into games. I also associate 1.5 with the early days of the internet. Damn awesome time to be alive back then! Looking up into on games in development felt so fucking cool! Nowadays it's just an everyday thing.
I was actually born around the time this game came out, but I didn't get the chance to play the game until Middle School, till then, my first foray into RE was through an old let's play of RE 5, I then watched his RE 4 let's play, and then his let's play of the remake. I actually watched let's plays of the Resident Evil games before I actually played one, and the first one I played was none other than RE 1, the original. Then it was RE 2, but I actually never finished the original RE 3 because I was a fool and I tried to fight Nemesis on my first playthrough because I knew about the item drops. I didn't get far in Code Veronica, 0, and Remake for different reasons. Code Veronica, because I actually got too stressed, 0 because of the item management, and Remake was because I was nervous about the crimson heads. It wasn't until recently, that I went back and played the RE games I didn't beat. Except for 3. So, even though I got into it through the action era of the series, I actually played the classic ones first, so I actually have an appreciation for both types of games.//
Man, I just discovered you channel and boy, I've watched at least 10 videos on the last 3 days! It is great! Your videos are just like a warm hug in my childhood and adolescense
Awesome work dude! Nice to see someone putting time and effort into showcasing what could've been. I feel that if we ever get to obtain that "60-80%" build there might be more changes to talk about our maybe more similarities between the two. Can't wait to see you're next retrospective though!
After playing the remake several times, i really could see the influence of 1.5. There were a lot of areas which looked way more 1,5 than 2. And i love it 😍
I didn't know about the medicines. That's amazing, because in Road Fever (our classic-RE-style game), we use six medicines that can be combined for various results. It was based mostly on RE3's gunpowder, but the link to RE1.5 is very welcome. It reïnforces my confidence that I'm thinking like a RE developer.
Yeah, all these little changes to the series, still makes me morn the fact that we'll never got to see all this stuff in action in a full game. The closest we'll get, is people like you who use Re as inspiration.
Another one is the grenades. Before I even knew that was in RE1.5, we decided to use rudimentary nail grenades (glass bottle with gunpowder, nails, cloth, and fire). Have you tried the Mortal Night for RE2? I've heard it's really good. One of the few someone actually finished (or released; I don't know for sure that it's finished).
thnx so much for this : as a huge Resident Evil fan , its so nice to just kick back and see a well put together ( and informative) retrospective of one of the most beloved and hated gaming series of all time. As Josh Stone would say : You have my gratitude :) Keep up the good work
Waaaaiiiiitttt.... You are telling me that those S.T.A.R.S. members that survived and returned from the Arklay mansion and brought a bunch of incriminating documents were believed?! Honestly this sounds better than the story of the original RE2 and have you heard about the actual 1.5? A sort of in between game between 1&2 where the S.T.A.R.S. members go back to the destroyed mansion that is now overrun with plant monsters and such?
+Keaton Kitsune yeah, I've heard about that. I think having it take place in the city was the right move. That being said, there's a part of re outbreak where they essentially play that scenario out. Maybe it could have been cool.
Keep in mind that's just me speculating. But still it would be nice to see a new RE game with more enemy variety, 7 was a big step in the right direction.
Came across your channel and I am a huge RE fan and I have to say I really enjoyed this video. I didn't know a lot of info you said. New fan. Great work!
Since we now know resident evil 2 remake is coming, it would be awesome if capcom polished this game up and added it to the remake as a bonus for beating the game. I would absolutely love to play a finished version of this game with the same exact ps1 graphics. Capcom has almost come back to their glory days of the 80s to early 2000s with resident evil 7 mega man 11 devil may cry 5 and by the looks of it, a freaking spectacular re-imagination of resident evil 2. Capcom has always been my second favorite video game company after first party nintendo games and am so glad they are trying to please their fans unlike konami.
I have heard that there is some 1.5 stuff on offer in the new game. Parts of the precinct will be there, and there's an unlockable Elza costume for Claire, if the rumors are to be believed.
Either having 1.5 and classic 2 as unlockable campaigns or future DLC would be worth the price of admission for a LOT of players. Hell, even if they were paid DLC, like say $10-15 each would be worth it, especially if the money went to recouping the investment to finishing 1.5!
RUclips’s birthday gift to me, a new Resident Evil retrospective by Avalanche Jared! This was fun to watch! I never even knew this existed. This series you started got me playing the ps1 games again. I finished the first and went on to 3, finishing it this morning. It feels more chronologically solid to me to play 1 and 3 together and then 2 and 4. I would love to find this and give it a try!
I fucking love hearing that! Glad I got you to jump back into these great games! I typically like to go in order from 1 to 4, but that's because the gameplay progresses naturally that way.
Wow I am really impressed by this video. Some things you mentioned about 1.5 I had either forgotten or actually didnt know. I can tell you went through a lot of work and focus to get all these details of the game to us.
Avalanche Reviews man I looked this up there is so much different spiders pop out of vents there's gorillas I even heard the gator boss was going to be different but not in the 1.5
First time i ever saw screenshots of 1.5 it was on GamePro one rainy afternoon after school. Part of me wishes Capcom went with that almost surreal and modern police station, Elza Walker and Leon's early model, bulletproof vest, completely different haircut and all. Over the years i have become fascinated with what could have been if this iteration of the game was released instead of the RE2 we know and love and due to this fascination i find myself rewatching this video every once in a while.
I remember surfing the web in 2003 for hours until late at night, searching more and more info about this RE 1.5. Tons of webs, blogs, Bioflames, low res images, low quality videos, etc. It all fascinated me. And it felt like an unreachable dream. When the beta was leaked, I was in shock. Playing it feels like you said: as if I were stranded in a foreign place which never existed. Like nostalgia from a game I never played. It's like a mystical experience. Good thing a fan community is cleaning it all and getting it to work. Though, I don't think the game could ever be finished further of its content. So, part of "what if" will always remain as a mystery.
It's actually strange to notice how some of the ideas here were recycled into the RE2 remake, like being able to dismember zombies, the cold color scheme some of the RPD's rooms have, and characters showing physical damage.
They actually kept a lot of 1.5 in mind, imho. The RPD basement in the remake it's essentially the same with some tweaks: the shooting range it's straight out of 1.5 with the addition of a little room. The parking lot is the one from the "lost game" as well: the biggest difference being that the entrance is blocked by some vans and it doesn't lead anywhere else, whereas in the remake you can reach the prison with Leon (and that too it's an upgraded version of the one in 1.5) or Chief Irons' private quarters with Claire - plus, there's the manhole leading to the sewers. The morgue and the kennel are also very similar, and so is the idea of the zombie dogs coming out of the air vents. They definitely didn't take much from the actual RE2 when it came to designing that part of the game. Also, William calling for Sherry is something unique to 1.5 (in the released game, Sherry says she heard her father calling for her, but we never do) and so it's him mutating in real time during the first boss fight - which is something that Mikami and Kamiya were stressing out in the original press interviews, before they scrapped the game (most translations have them saying "we're gonna have changing phantoms", since, as far as I know, the Japanese word for "monster" is rather ambiguous to translate). Oh, yeah the shutters are straight out of 1.5 as well.
@@PIB2000 well, not really: it's a remake of RE2. But it does acknowledge 1.5's existence, that's for sure. Some things (like the precinct basement) were definitely put there to please the hardcore fans. Some others (like William mutating during the first fight), might've been recycling discarded ideas - the directors (there's two of them) of RE2 are senior CAPCOM staffers and have been working on the franchise since the '90 if I am not mistaken - there's a video of them meeting with Kamiya and discussing the games: they are the same age and you can tell they have been knowing each other for quite some time.
I had no idea this existed! Resident Evil has been my favorite horror series since I played the first one at a Funcoland way back when. I heard a while back that the gun shop owner was going to have a larger role in the game, and it looks like he did from what I'm seeing. Glad this happened to show up in my recommendations!
Absolutely fascinating. I’ve always been aware that it existed, but the fact that this was basically a full game never really struck me with how much work it took to accomplish it. That is until now. Great series
Hey, Avalanche. Thank for the newest entry. As an aside, today was one of the roughest days I’ve had in recent memory. While I won’t go into much detail, please know that the 15 minutes I spent watching this were a welcome reprieve from today. RE2 still stands as one of my favorite all-time games and I can definitely see its roots in 1.5 as a stepping stone. Keep up the solid work, guy. Best line in RE2: “That guy’s a manic! ...Why’d he bite me?!”
+Innominate185 wow man, I'm glad to hear I could help a bit. Hope shit turns upwards for you. Reading this comment got me off my ass and inspired me to finish voicing the next episode of the series. Many thanks.
Amazing to know this actually exists. I’ve only ever seen ye olde screenshots, and assumed something like this would never see the light of day. I feel bad I couldn’t beat 2 now until way later on the GameCube. I can only imagine what things would be like now if 1.5 hadn’t changed direction. Definitely gotta look into playing it myself soon
Honestly this makes me wonder what ever happened to that old “3.5 beta” I heard about in highschool. Although I’m still convinced it was just a convincing mock up for RUclips views based off the footage we got before 4 got the massive changes it did
It sucks that something like this would never happen in the modern age of game development. You could never scrap a triple a game that far in development so that you could eventually release a totally new game that would go on to be an all timer. The games industry nowadays is in the same place as the movie industry, games are made to check off feature lists to appease the board instead of focusing on the best possible game design.
I can hear a familiar 3 note leitmotif in these music tracks that's present in RE2 pieces (in the Intro cutscene when it shows the gas station / "Prologue"/ "The Beginning of Story" / "Raccoon City"/ "The Front Hall" and more..) It seems this melody was decided already since this project and stayed until the final RE2
I had no idea that the game was leaked and could be played! As much as I love RE, I've been missing out on this. RE2 is definitely my fav in the series. I wish I still had a PSP, so I could play it on there.
This and the various versions of Resident Evil 4 that got scrapped are eerily fascinating to me, what hung them is almost surreal and scary like the commentator said here it's like you've gone back in time but things aren't actually quit the same when you get back there things have been altered a bit, it's creepy in a good way
I'm glad they didn't include that huge amount of weapons in the final game. I think one of the keys of survival horror is that it doesn't allow you to use many weapons, being even harder to face the danger. I'm also impressed they were initially planning to allow the players to blow zombie legs/arms off since they have implemented that aspect in the upcoming remake. It's so cool they've taken inspiration from RE1.5 for the RE2 Remake!!
Thank you Jared, this was a very illuminating video, and also very great alongside all your other Resident Evil Retrospectives. I'm actually glad they made the changes they did, especially the addition of revamping the police station from something drab to a more gothic structure of an ex-art gallery. Elza Walker probably would've been an interesting character but having Claire and that connection to Chris made the continuation better as well in my humble opinion.
I agree, they went in the right direction with 2. I still absolutely love 1.5's look, but I think that's because it's so different. If I wouldn't have had a finished version to compare it to, I might not like it as much.
I'm eager to try it. RE2 is my favourite, and going back and playing them all, I'm always comparing whichever RE I'm playing to 2. Can't wait for the remake!
What keeps bugging me about Resident Evil 1.5 is the plot and story, apparently Irons was a good guy that would probably sacrifice himself, Marvin would survive until the end, Ada was upfront with working with Umbrella, the story apparently didn't have an antagonist other than Birkin. If we could only have the full script of the 1.5 story...
Man that was funny! Im so hyped about the remake of Resident Evil 2 (My favourite part of the series) and i just stumbled upon this video. I remember the leaked footage of RE1.5 back in the days and how excited I was. Haha. This video made my day. Gonna go look for the build.
this is something that should get some kind of mention or nod in the remake would love to see that. it so cool to see things like this get picked up by the community.
It's been said a million times I'm sure, but this *should* have been the successor to Resident Evil. What we got was brilliant don't get me wrong, but this version just has you feeling some type of way.
Well done - Great job conveying the hidden treasure that is Resident Evil 1.5. Though I enjoy what ultimately became RE2, I also wish 1.5 could have been released as it looks to exist in a parallel universe to what is currently RE. Wouldn’t it be great if Capcom finished 1.5 and released it in the near future?! That would make the perfect teaser to the upcoming remake
This was a great video. I too share many of the same feelings toward this prototype as you do. I don't remember where, but there was a hint dropped (by a major Capcom team member) that this prototype may one day see an officially playable version. Now that we can reasonably expect an RE2 Remake, maybe, just maybe they'll include this prototype as an extra content. Which I consider that to be a possible scenario because with the release of RE Zero HD, they included an outfit that came from the N64 prototype version of Rebecca Chambers. What do y'all think?
+Late Night with NateWolf I would love to see that happen, but capcom is wayyyyy too good of bad decision making, for me to give them that kind of credit. I will however, cross my fingers and hope.
Sorry, just now seeing this. For some reason youtube hasn't been notifying me of replies to my comments. If they don't add a playable prototype, i hope they at least make Elza Walker a playable costume to represent that prototype like RE Zero did with the white beret version of Rebecca.
once again, amazing video. that said, i look foward to your RE2 retrospective, im a very weird dude, i never finished RE2 and 3 because i got frustrated, but i already played RE4 and 1 multiple times, i wanna see if you can convince me to give them another chance
The game looks like a fever dream you get after playing RE2 for too long.
That's a damn good way to put it.
Reminds me of this dream I had where I was playing the original doom you described it perfectly though because I recognized it as doom but some things were off
I think 1.5 coulda been better than 2
@@johnr4836 only in terms of weapons. For everything else RE2 blows this out of the water
@@Styxswimmer I mean mostly the ideas they didn't utilize in RE2
Right off the bat, I just wanna say, the way in which RE1 and RE2 played out with the two characters that are supposed to be kinda working together but not really, and they randomly split up and barely see each other at all, that makes a hell of a lot less sense than just having two separate stories in the first place. Because let's be honest, if you suddenly found yourself in the middle of a city infested with zombies, and you find another human that's not a complete moron, are you REALLY gonna split up? Is that REALLY the best way to survive?
This is true.
It makes more sense with resident evil 1 then 2 tbh
Pretty sure it’s because they couldn’t make a good AI partner considering that even almost 2 decades later the AI partner in Resident Evil Revelations 2 was still as dumb as a rock and is more of a liability than help.
lol best example being in resident evil 3 when Carlos gets the vaccine, informs Jill that Nemesis is back and stronger then ever, followed by 'I got to go and take care of a few things'
That's why re 2 and the remake forcibly split them up because the developers realized it makes no sense for them to split up on their own
It's funny. The "they ended up having to almost completely redo the game" part is usually the point in the story when the franchise goes off the rails into its certain doom.
And this series has done it several times already! It's insane!
first episode: "i'm only doing main entries"
second episode: "so there's this unofficial, unreleased game"
still though, great vids.
Well, this was very close to be the main entry.. :P
@@dickmccarthy9496 but it wasn't.
1998 was magic! PlayStation vs Nintendo and friends coming over to play golden eye for hours and all my friends running home when i played RE 2 b/c they thought it was evil!
Good times all around! The best year for gaming.
97-2000 was my gaming golden age,98 will always be the year of RE2.
Avalanche Reviews 1998 was the best yr for games..my prime gaming yrs were from 93-2001. 97 & 98 the 2 best years however.
Well, the title does literally have the word "Evil" in it, so they weren't completely wrong.
But yes, the mid- to late-90's were some of the best years to be a gamer I agree, though the early 90's with the Sega/Nintendo rivalry at it's hottest point was also a really good couple of years.
Golden eye was the shit brother. Thst along with Gex, Crash, Banjo and Crocker
I wish the original makers would finish this and present it as a "what if" story. Not even a remake, just take the assets that exist and finish things as close to the original vision as possible. I would definitely buy it.
You and me both! I would put a full 60$ down for something like that.
Or... With the remake on the way, capcom devs add Elsa
as a DLC or unlockable character??? I just blew my own mind!!
Wouldn't happen, though, as much as resident evil has moved away from the mediocre shooters like 5 toward making serious horror games again, developers don't get why these games with their fixed camera angles and pre-rendered backgrounds were so good at the time, or why they've aged so well. I'd love this format of survival horror to come back, but I don't see it happening. Pre-rendered backgrounds have come back into fashion with isometric rpgs but that's about it really.
Like a lot of courses a lot of them won't know shit anyway, it's like taking a sound engineering course and having some know-it-all teach you that the ultra-compressed modern production sound is good. A lot of people then end up working at studios and really have it in their heads that pop and metal produced this way objectively sounds better (even though it's technically really awfully produced music with zero dynamic range), and you won't be able to convince them otherwise, because some professor told them so. It's probably the same with game design. Like a lot of things that get more and more commercial and standardised, games and developers now overlook why these games worked so well back in the day, the sheer genius of their design despite the technical limitations. No they don't work well on a design level as shooter games, but they aren't meant to be shooter games, they are horror and survival games first and foremost, and the maps, camera angles and placing of enemies are all deliberate to increase the tension. Most modern games these days simply see you either being chased (Amnesia, Alien Isolation) or they rely on pure gore and visual horror. I'd say the last truly brilliant (and brilliantly designed) horror games were the project zero/fatal frame games, and despite their clunkiness, the siren games. Dead Space 1 and 2 were very good attempts though
SkyHazel Definitely wish they would do something like that with 3.5
They need to bring back "Elza Walker" as actress into the series. she can make a reference about being drop from zombie movie.
I could get behind that
@@AvalancheReviews Why?
Why would they do that? Seriously, there's no point to it.
@@SweetChildofMine-l5y they literally have werewolves and giant vampire ladies that moronic simps lust over. They could bring back a biker chick. Chill
I think you'd enjoy this fan movie of RE1.5:
*Resident Evil 1.5 4K Movie:* ruclips.net/video/1kWhCQxt7VQ/видео.html
Great video! Well written/read, edited and very informal. Awesome work man. 👍🏻
Thanks a lot man!
Y'all both sound like the same person. Lmfao.. waaaiiiiitt 😑😑😑😐😐😐🤔🤔
@@lovelorn88nick Im years late to the party but what the fuck are you trying to even imply here man? lmaoo
1.5 has a special place in my heart for some reason , When I was a kid I used to buy all the gaming magazines and loved looking at the screenshots and artwork of 1.5 , I love Elza's Biker outfit design as well and loved the design of the R.P.D , ALWAYS wanted to play it and never thought I would , but then that day came and I tell you now I was screaming and very shocked that a build of the game was finally leaked and I wasn't disappointed , I am also following the team who are re creating the the full game and also have a demo of their latest release of the 1.5 Battle coliseum which is super fun and also has a model viewer.
I had roughly the same exact experience. Always was obsessed with it, and never thought I would actually get to play it. I can't wait till those guys finish it!!!
I agree. Re2 was my very 1st actual video game back when I was 8. How can I get my hands on this Re1.5?
Have they finished it?
@@HollyMontgomery98 Haha, I'm wondering that too! All this time later and all I can find is the Battle Colosseum and a hack for the leaked iso, but I can't find the leaked iso.
@@freshrot420 That should only take you a few google searches. Keep in mind the hack patch is more or less required to have a playable version
This version is so intriguing. I can't stop digging into the information about it. I want to know everything.
Same here!!!
I read numerous articles regarding it and I really can't fathom why they scrapped. I mean, I've read about why but it seems to me they either overthought it or lacked confidence in it's design. Like IGAS said in a Kotaku interview. They went the safe route doing it over.
Looking at the actual finished product that 2 turned out to be, I can't blame them, but damn I would have loved to play an officially finished ver of 1.5!! Back when I first found out about it, I had just finished both campaigns, and I felt like I stumbled into a whole new world. I think I have more nostalgia for what I imagined the game to be like, based on the few grainy images and videos I could find.
It was nice to play some version of the game but it didn't do it justice given how empty and buggy it was. Felt sort of like walking around an empty amusement park. At the very least it would be nice to hear a full inside story about it from the creators but anytime you ask Kamiya or Mikami about it they either brush it aside or block you lol.
@@AvalancheReviews I remember reading about RE1.5 long before RE2 was ever released, so when RE2 finally came out and I heard that they scrapped the old version, I was pretty sad. Believe me, I was surprised to find out they leaked the old version I actually wanted to play. RE2's released version was just so good though most of us forgot about the build we never received.
If Capcom really wanted to create some goodwill with their customers they would include a finished version of this game as an unlockable bonus to the supposed upcoming Resident Evil 2 remake.
I can't think of a quicker way to get me to buy that game!
or if the remake would include Elza into the game but manage to not meet either of the main characters as a side story, sort of like Hunk!
I would love it if they did this.
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Even if the remake was complete shit, I imagine I would buy it if 1.5 was included.
Probably will never happen but it would be the most awesome xmas gift ever.
Like you said it has a very surreal feel to it. It's like a trip back in time but into an alternate timeline, and it just makes you wonder what RE2 would've looked like in that alternate reality where this game goes into completion and how it would've affected the rest of the series. Cool vid Avalanche!
Thanks man! Yeah, that's exactly what it's like. So weird to be playing a game that was equal parts familiar, and totally unfamiliar.
RE2 was originally intended as the end of the series. RE 1.5 had a more conclusive ending than RE2.
I love the atmoshpere in this build
It's killer
I love how the remake is bringing stuff from 1.5 and it has that cold blue hue of 1.5
I don't know, I wouldn't get your hopes up too high. The devs have said that they don't plan on including much from 1.5, aside from Elza's costume.
I read an article by the developers saying they were incorporating ideas or little details lost in 1.5 like some characters and such and someone made a video comparing them. Cause they didnt want to make a full on remake they wanted to give more to fans
They Actually Did Include A lot From 1.5 In Both Resident Evil 2 Remake And Some From Resident Evil 3 Remake One Thing That Did Make It From 1.5 Into The Remake Is Battle Damage If A Zombie Bit You It Could Tear Through Your Outfit
6:18 I love that chief irons office design with the reddish orange light coming through the window blinds hitting the ground. Think I like this police station more than the actual re2 police station lol
I agree. There are a bunch of parts that look much more like a real police precinct, than the official version.
RE2 is still my favorite of the original PlayStation trilogy. Though RE 1 Remake is likely the best of the modern REs. Thanks for the info on 1.5!
My pleasure! Also, it looks like we have the exact same opinion on the series.
The gameplay loop of RE2 just never gets old. I have played through it at least once per year since I got it for christmas as a kid in the late 90s.
RE2 was my first survival horror game ever, and obviously my first RE game (and helped me overcome my phobia of zombies!), so it will always have a nostalgic place in my heart. As such, I'm super stoked about this remake, especially seeing as how they appear to be mixing in elements of 1.5 into the classic 2 formula to please as many fans as possible (of course, there will always be the vocal minority of toxic fans who refuse to accept anything other than a direct 1:1 recreation of the original, but they're easy enough to ignore haha!) and it looks super slick for that.
I haven't been this excited for a modern game in a long, long time.
Michael Hunt Glad I’m not the only one. I usually do it every summer.
The first time I ever heard about Resident Evil I was in 5th grade (1998) and we had these magazines that covered science and social studies. One discussed video games and violence (predictably) and had a screenshot of the room from 5:25 in it with the caption "Things get ugly in Resident Evil" or something along those lines. Knowing that the screen grab was of the police station in 1.5, I can finally stop questioning why I never recognized that background. It also confirms my two suspicions that 1, they didn't really play Resident Evil and 2, they did not really know what they were talking about. Also I love your retrospectives, they were my main reason for subscribing and binge watching them all endlessly.
I was a sophomore in high school when this game came out.. I'm very old
I'm not hoping for a finished version of 1.5, but I am hoping for elements from 1.5 to make it into the RE2 remake. Maybe give the RPD some new areas with these designs, or make some new areas that shares some of these designs. Maybe give Claire an Elza Walker skin as an unlock, or just her outfit. Something like that!
From what I've been seeing in gameplay footage from E3, they're doing exactly all of that and more, turning the remake into a fusion of 1.5 and 2.
There's an elza walker outfit
And it looks fuckin mental!! Its gonna be sick!
Ever Downward well you got your wish brah. The RE2 remake is being reimagined and rebuilt from the ground up. Giving them room to combine RE 1.5 and RE2 . Plus a Elza Walker skin for Claire in the deluxe edition.
Geeky Girl fuckin January can't get here fast enough
I always was disappointed that the crawling part of the zombies was removed considering how interesting a game mechanic it was. You showed it in the video, how they crawled under the shutters as well as the shotgun blasts, but just the fact that if one went for the easier leg shot you were "rewarded" with having to either shoot or run away from the still alive enemy made it much more of a survival horror. It likely was removed for technical reasons but I really thought it was a shame they took away a fun and fair balancing mechanic.
I actually think it wasn't in the released game because Japan has strict laws on showing dismemberment in games. That's why a lot of US made games have to censor decapitations when they get localized over there.
nah, i think it was because they were rushing re 2 out of guilt, but thats just speculation
That could be it too
Maybe I'm having a Mandela Effect, but I seem to remember there being crawling torsos in RE2? Or maybe that was just something they left out of the PS1 version and managed to restore into the N64 and PC ports, as those are the versions I'm most familiar with.
there never were crawling torsos, only zombies, just like on this game on the zombies crawling out of the area where elza is facing when the game begins
I still remember seeing the first original photos of RE2/1.5, it looked awesome to me and had me hyped. Going back online and looking at those photos again, still gives me the vibes I had then. Obviously the RE2 we ended up getting was still badass.
Perhaps the greatest RE1.5 video! Amazing! RE1.5 looked so mysterious and dark. Difficult to explain but I think it has a charm that RE2 doesn't have.
Re 1.5 from what I heard from the community is that it should be available out next year FINALLY to download or whatever. Lets all make it happen so it could exist.
Yes!!!!
I havent heard a date but I heard they want to get voice acting and work on CG cut scenes last so it's got a ways to go.
If your still Interested, A new patch has just been released!!!
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As intriguing as this prototype footage can be, I’ve always found it rather strange how fans seem to be very attached to Elza Walker and “want her back” when she is quite literally Claire. Not just that, but people are commenting how this game looks better, more interesting, even “credible” and want it to be officially released... Kind of odd.
All is known about the script is merely small details from the leaks. However, it was deemed as uninteresting, not scary and lacking of depth and coherence according to Okamoto, Sugimura and even Kamiya (he now happily admits he is relieved it was cancelled). The visuals were too “neon-ish” and Hollywood looking for what is supposed to be an authentic horror experience. Isn't that what everyone wants the franchise to be? Sugimura rewrote the story with the purpose of making it engaging, connected to the first entry and giving supporting characters, such as Ada and Sherry, plot relevance instead of being one-dimensional like they were in 1.5. Not to mention, bringing the iconic T-102 Tyrant into the setting.
While I agree it would've been cool to have an expanded armoury and the ability to rip zombies in half, I disagree with people saying the final product is lacking. Personally, the fact that the members of S.T.A.R.S. were ridiculed and persecuted, while the chief of police has secret ties with Umbrella is a far more fascinating narrative. The franchise is all about being evil after all.
I am relieved Resident Evil 2 turned out to be the game we all know and love. I trust the team’s decision of starting back from zero. Thanks to that, we also got “The 4th Survivor” mode.
Appreciate your take on this. I think people can often get really swept up by the "what could have been" emotion. The Resident Evil 2 we did get was meant to be: it's one of the best games of all-time, and a personal favorite of so, so many fans. I also think this playable bit of the game fits nicely into the speculative lore of the series--it's fun to get to see what was, imagine what would have been and discuss and share. But I do agree, and think it's a bit of stretch to say that what we see here should have dethroned what we actually did get in RE2.
@@mjbyrne1153 Exactly my thoughts! I'm glad someone else agrees. The final game is quite literally a perfect sequel for the series.
@@ドラゴン-d3u just started the Remake last night. It is out of control excellent so far...
This is half life 2 all over again
Agreed. If this game came out instead of the official one we got, Resident Evil might have not gone any further. Wasn't their also plans to end the series with this game anyway?
Huge resident evil fan here. excellent content Avalanche as always your very underrated :)
Thank you very much man!
Huge huge RE fan here, I dunno how I'm just coming across your channel now. Love the video, nice pacing with good production value...! Keep it up as I feel you're pretty underrated atm...
Awwww thanks!!!
Hope you are gonna do the rest of the franchise in some format or another, I'd love to see them!
+Beat of blues I'm very close to hitting my funding goal, so I'd say there's a good chance that I'll be doing the whole series pretty soon.
Being in game dev a while now the amount of this near finished builds of games that exist at studios but have never been seen even in screens is staggering. Love seeing some pop up over the years like this.
Even if I really like RE2, I readily admit that the universe created for RE1.5 seems to me a bit more interesting, more credible (as much as a RE can be, of course), the atmosphere that arises seems to me closer to the works of Romero, much more visceral and agonizing, like a mirror distorting our own reality.
The game had very good ideas such as the armor to wear that was damaged during the fighting, the way that Leon and Elza hold their weapons and more widely the environment, I prefer the police station of 1.5 to that of RE2 for example .
Anyway thank you for this video.
Glad you liked it! I think I prefer the look of 1,5's station too. I think it just fits in with my natural tastes a little better. I like that type of modern look.
You're welcome, you deserve it. Do you think in the future to look at the Dino Crisis series (and Dino Stalker) or Deep Fear (the acting is hilarious) ?
A group of fans are developing a playable version of this game. It should be out in another year.
Can you imagine someone in Japan buying an old PC that capcom happened to use and finding the 80% RE1.5 files
I came here after seeing a video about the new clothes that the remade version of RE2 was inspired by the RE1.5 character designs. You bringing up the visual damage models reminded me about the visual damage seen in the E3 demo of the remade version. Thats really impressive that they are going back to their old drawing board to improve the gameplay and the visual style of the remake.
It seems like they're including parts of 1.5's police precinct too! They seem to be drawing a lot from 1.5 and that's cool as hell!
Not being a big RE fan (don't skin me alive!) I've never caught much information on this build, let alone knew of its late 'release'. Very interesting and thank you very much for covering this in this much detail. It's always great, as well as sad, to learn of games that could have been. Love the series thus far man, keep up the awesome work!
Don't you tell me who not to skin alive!!! Ha! Thanks man, I really appreciate that. If a non fan can get into these videos, then I must be doing something right.
SKIN HIM ALIVE!!!!
SKIN HIM ALIVE 😈😈😈😈
I know you here it over and over again, but I have to say thank you for uploading this. I immediately subscribed to your channel. The ps1 was my first game system, and resident evil 1 was one of the first and last games I remember my father playing. We indulged in the game during the daytime on the weekends. I'll never forget beating the game with him. And when I watched this I just had a chill down my spine, thinking of those memories with my dad. I love resident evil. He said what he remembers the most is trying to find those fucking ink ribbons 🤣 thank you again for sharing your thoughts on this game!
I share the same exact feelings about 1.5 as you. Back during the PSX days, I subscribed to Playstation Underground and Sony would send those double CD packs with demos and info on upcoming titles (I still have all of those discs!). I can remember getting the disc set that had the first footage of this game, I must have watched it 100 times! Later on, I modded my Playstation and started tracking down imports, betas, basically anything unreleased or rare... RE 1.5 was always my holy grail. I found a few games that were supposed to be RE 1.5 but ended up being early builds of the official RE2. It's so awesome to see this as playable. The PSX days were definitely an amazing time to be into gaming!
Yeah, the ps1 era was absolute most fun time to be into games. I also associate 1.5 with the early days of the internet. Damn awesome time to be alive back then! Looking up into on games in development felt so fucking cool! Nowadays it's just an everyday thing.
I was actually born around the time this game came out, but I didn't get the chance to play the game until Middle School, till then, my first foray into RE was through an old let's play of RE 5, I then watched his RE 4 let's play, and then his let's play of the remake. I actually watched let's plays of the Resident Evil games before I actually played one, and the first one I played was none other than RE 1, the original. Then it was RE 2, but I actually never finished the original RE 3 because I was a fool and I tried to fight Nemesis on my first playthrough because I knew about the item drops. I didn't get far in Code Veronica, 0, and Remake for different reasons. Code Veronica, because I actually got too stressed, 0 because of the item management, and Remake was because I was nervous about the crimson heads. It wasn't until recently, that I went back and played the RE games I didn't beat. Except for 3. So, even though I got into it through the action era of the series, I actually played the classic ones first, so I actually have an appreciation for both types of games.//
Man, I just discovered you channel and boy, I've watched at least 10 videos on the last 3 days! It is great!
Your videos are just like a warm hug in my childhood and adolescense
Awesome work dude! Nice to see someone putting time and effort into showcasing what could've been.
I feel that if we ever get to obtain that "60-80%" build there might be more changes to talk about our maybe more similarities between the two.
Can't wait to see you're next retrospective though!
You're warming my heart over here! Thanks very much
After playing the remake several times, i really could see the influence of 1.5. There were a lot of areas which looked way more 1,5 than 2. And i love it 😍
I was born in 84 - the RE series holds a special place in my heart. This is my first video of yours, it was really well done
I didn't know about the medicines. That's amazing, because in Road Fever (our classic-RE-style game), we use six medicines that can be combined for various results. It was based mostly on RE3's gunpowder, but the link to RE1.5 is very welcome. It reïnforces my confidence that I'm thinking like a RE developer.
Yeah, all these little changes to the series, still makes me morn the fact that we'll never got to see all this stuff in action in a full game. The closest we'll get, is people like you who use Re as inspiration.
Another one is the grenades. Before I even knew that was in RE1.5, we decided to use rudimentary nail grenades (glass bottle with gunpowder, nails, cloth, and fire). Have you tried the Mortal Night for RE2? I've heard it's really good. One of the few someone actually finished (or released; I don't know for sure that it's finished).
They should have carried over the idea of having the knife visible on Leon's hip. It looked pretty sweet
Agreed
thnx so much for this : as a huge Resident Evil fan , its so nice to just kick back and see a well put together ( and informative) retrospective of one of the most beloved and hated gaming series of all time. As Josh Stone would say : You have my gratitude :)
Keep up the good work
Waaaaiiiiitttt.... You are telling me that those S.T.A.R.S. members that survived and returned from the Arklay mansion and brought a bunch of incriminating documents were believed?!
Honestly this sounds better than the story of the original RE2 and have you heard about the actual 1.5? A sort of in between game between 1&2 where the S.T.A.R.S. members go back to the destroyed mansion that is now overrun with plant monsters and such?
+Keaton Kitsune yeah, I've heard about that. I think having it take place in the city was the right move. That being said, there's a part of re outbreak where they essentially play that scenario out. Maybe it could have been cool.
I'm sure it would be different, I could see them focusing more on incendiary weapons in that.
+Keaton Kitsune Well now, I'm interested. Fuck! I wish they would start making good re games again!
Keep in mind that's just me speculating. But still it would be nice to see a new RE game with more enemy variety, 7 was a big step in the right direction.
Yeah, I'll reserve my opinion on 7 till I can make a video, but it was really good.
1 correction, Leon actually isn't an altruistic boy scout. Marvin kinda grows him into it.
Came across your channel and I am a huge RE fan and I have to say I really enjoyed this video. I didn't know a lot of info you said. New fan. Great work!
+TheJoebag1 That's awesome, thanks man! I'm glad to give people a portion of my useless knowledge. Ha!
Avalanche Reviews its a great feeling right?! Lol
Since we now know resident evil 2 remake is coming, it would be awesome if capcom polished this game up and added it to the remake as a bonus for beating the game. I would absolutely love to play a finished version of this game with the same exact ps1 graphics. Capcom has almost come back to their glory days of the 80s to early 2000s with resident evil 7 mega man 11 devil may cry 5 and by the looks of it, a freaking spectacular re-imagination of resident evil 2. Capcom has always been my second favorite video game company after first party nintendo games and am so glad they are trying to please their fans unlike konami.
I have heard that there is some 1.5 stuff on offer in the new game. Parts of the precinct will be there, and there's an unlockable Elza costume for Claire, if the rumors are to be believed.
Either having 1.5 and classic 2 as unlockable campaigns or future DLC would be worth the price of admission for a LOT of players. Hell, even if they were paid DLC, like say $10-15 each would be worth it, especially if the money went to recouping the investment to finishing 1.5!
RUclips’s birthday gift to me, a new Resident Evil retrospective by Avalanche Jared! This was fun to watch! I never even knew this existed. This series you started got me playing the ps1 games again. I finished the first and went on to 3, finishing it this morning. It feels more chronologically solid to me to play 1 and 3 together and then 2 and 4. I would love to find this and give it a try!
I fucking love hearing that! Glad I got you to jump back into these great games! I typically like to go in order from 1 to 4, but that's because the gameplay progresses naturally that way.
Wow I am really impressed by this video. Some things you mentioned about 1.5 I had either forgotten or actually didnt know. I can tell you went through a lot of work and focus to get all these details of the game to us.
Thanks! Yeah, you could definitely say that this is a passion project.
Avalanche Reviews man I looked this up there is so much different spiders pop out of vents there's gorillas I even heard the gator boss was going to be different but not in the 1.5
First time i ever saw screenshots of 1.5 it was on GamePro one rainy afternoon after school. Part of me wishes Capcom went with that almost surreal and modern police station, Elza Walker and Leon's early model, bulletproof vest, completely different haircut and all.
Over the years i have become fascinated with what could have been if this iteration of the game was released instead of the RE2 we know and love and due to this fascination i find myself rewatching this video every once in a while.
Binge-watching your Resident Evil retrospective! Amazing work! Makes me want to replay them even more!
I remember surfing the web in 2003 for hours until late at night, searching more and more info about this RE 1.5. Tons of webs, blogs, Bioflames, low res images, low quality videos, etc. It all fascinated me. And it felt like an unreachable dream. When the beta was leaked, I was in shock. Playing it feels like you said: as if I were stranded in a foreign place which never existed. Like nostalgia from a game I never played. It's like a mystical experience. Good thing a fan community is cleaning it all and getting it to work. Though, I don't think the game could ever be finished further of its content. So, part of "what if" will always remain as a mystery.
It's actually strange to notice how some of the ideas here were recycled into the RE2 remake, like being able to dismember zombies, the cold color scheme some of the RPD's rooms have, and characters showing physical damage.
They actually kept a lot of 1.5 in mind, imho. The RPD basement in the remake it's essentially the same with some tweaks: the shooting range it's straight out of 1.5 with the addition of a little room. The parking lot is the one from the "lost game" as well: the biggest difference being that the entrance is blocked by some vans and it doesn't lead anywhere else, whereas in the remake you can reach the prison with Leon (and that too it's an upgraded version of the one in 1.5) or Chief Irons' private quarters with Claire - plus, there's the manhole leading to the sewers. The morgue and the kennel are also very similar, and so is the idea of the zombie dogs coming out of the air vents. They definitely didn't take much from the actual RE2 when it came to designing that part of the game. Also, William calling for Sherry is something unique to 1.5 (in the released game, Sherry says she heard her father calling for her, but we never do) and so it's him mutating in real time during the first boss fight - which is something that Mikami and Kamiya were stressing out in the original press interviews, before they scrapped the game (most translations have them saying "we're gonna have changing phantoms", since, as far as I know, the Japanese word for "monster" is rather ambiguous to translate). Oh, yeah the shutters are straight out of 1.5 as well.
@@thermonuclearcollider4418 So, in a sense, the remake is just as much a remake of 1.5 as it is of 2.
@@PIB2000 well, not really: it's a remake of RE2. But it does acknowledge 1.5's existence, that's for sure. Some things (like the precinct basement) were definitely put there to please the hardcore fans. Some others (like William mutating during the first fight), might've been recycling discarded ideas - the directors (there's two of them) of RE2 are senior CAPCOM staffers and have been working on the franchise since the '90 if I am not mistaken - there's a video of them meeting with Kamiya and discussing the games: they are the same age and you can tell they have been knowing each other for quite some time.
One of the best videos on the concept of 1.5 I've ever seen. Keep up the good work man!
Thanks man! That means a lot
Didn't knew about the leak D: Great to know, I always liked the aesthetic of 1.5 from the videos
Yeah, it had such a cool feel to its design.
Hahaha, I can just see that brainstorm session now...
Capcom guy: We need a good reason William is chasing his daughter!
Wow, yeah, I'd really like to track this down and have a go at it! Thanks for making the video, man. Also, Happy Anniversary, video! *petpet*
Niiice! This is a dope addition to the retrospective man! I'm replaying 2 right now so this is all perfect timing.
Great minds think alike man
I had no idea this existed! Resident Evil has been my favorite horror series since I played the first one at a Funcoland way back when. I heard a while back that the gun shop owner was going to have a larger role in the game, and it looks like he did from what I'm seeing. Glad this happened to show up in my recommendations!
Yeah he was a big part in Elza's scenario. It was really cool actually seeing him outside of the 2 cutscenes he's in officially.
Absolutely fascinating. I’ve always been aware that it existed, but the fact that this was basically a full game never really struck me with how much work it took to accomplish it. That is until now. Great series
Thanks!!!
I'm glad they started over, RE2 is an absolute legend in gaming.
Finished playing Resident Evil 2 for the first time yesterday. One of my favourite PS1 games.
I love these video series. I grew up playing R.E many happy memories.
360 d-pad is horrid. tried to play streets of rage with it and was like i was using a stick shift.
Yeah, its terrible
Music definitely sounds different in a good way
For sure! I love the new tracks I found in the game. They really bridge the gap between 1 and 2's music.
Hey, Avalanche. Thank for the newest entry. As an aside, today was one of the roughest days I’ve had in recent memory. While I won’t go into much detail, please know that the 15 minutes I spent watching this were a welcome reprieve from today. RE2 still stands as one of my favorite all-time games and I can definitely see its roots in 1.5 as a stepping stone. Keep up the solid work, guy. Best line in RE2: “That guy’s a manic! ...Why’d he bite me?!”
+Innominate185 wow man, I'm glad to hear I could help a bit. Hope shit turns upwards for you. Reading this comment got me off my ass and inspired me to finish voicing the next episode of the series. Many thanks.
Avalanche Reviews Thanks, Avalanche, that means a lot. Looking forward to the next one already
P.S
We agree on the best line in RE2. Me and my brother used to say that to each other all the time!
Avalanche Reviews haha, nice. So did my brother and I. That and the journalist in the prison’s monologue: “coconspirator, make him...pay!”
I actually remember a game informer article talking about this in detail.
Amazing to know this actually exists. I’ve only ever seen ye olde screenshots, and assumed something like this would never see the light of day. I feel bad I couldn’t beat 2 now until way later on the GameCube. I can only imagine what things would be like now if 1.5 hadn’t changed direction. Definitely gotta look into playing it myself soon
Honestly this makes me wonder what ever happened to that old “3.5 beta” I heard about in highschool. Although I’m still convinced it was just a convincing mock up for RUclips views based off the footage we got before 4 got the massive changes it did
I've seen people say it still exists out there, but I've never seen any proof. Man, it would be cool to find it though.
This is cool. I had no idea this existed. I’m currently playing OG Res 2 for the first time right now too. So it’s kinda neat to look at.
I’ve been waiting for them to incorporate Elza in the story somehow ever since 1.5 got tossed and 2 came out.
I think you might enjoy this:
*Resident Evil 1.5 4K Movie:* ruclips.net/video/1kWhCQxt7VQ/видео.html
@9:55 Totally reminds me of a level from the Outbreak games...
Yeah it does
I remember seeing tiny snapshots of this in Playstation magazines in the late 90's. I am thrilled to hear the music! Cheers!
Right back at ya!!
It sucks that something like this would never happen in the modern age of game development. You could never scrap a triple a game that far in development so that you could eventually release a totally new game that would go on to be an all timer. The games industry nowadays is in the same place as the movie industry, games are made to check off feature lists to appease the board instead of focusing on the best possible game design.
I can hear a familiar 3 note leitmotif in these music tracks that's present in RE2 pieces (in the Intro cutscene when it shows the gas station / "Prologue"/ "The Beginning of Story" / "Raccoon City"/ "The Front Hall" and more..) It seems this melody was decided already since this project and stayed until the final RE2
The 360 Dpad was great. Reminded me of the Genesis Dpad
I will get around to playing this eventually, but awesome to get more info about it!
Fuck yeah! My pleasure.
I had no idea that the game was leaked and could be played! As much as I love RE, I've been missing out on this. RE2 is definitely my fav in the series. I wish I still had a PSP, so I could play it on there.
+Matt Kimura Then this video was specifically for you. I knew there would be RE fans who didn't know it was out, so I had to spread the good word.
No matter how time Flys am always seeing this every year
This and the various versions of Resident Evil 4 that got scrapped are eerily fascinating to me, what hung them is almost surreal and scary like the commentator said here it's like you've gone back in time but things aren't actually quit the same when you get back there things have been altered a bit, it's creepy in a good way
I'm glad they didn't include that huge amount of weapons in the final game. I think one of the keys of survival horror is that it doesn't allow you to use many weapons, being even harder to face the danger.
I'm also impressed they were initially planning to allow the players to blow zombie legs/arms off since they have implemented that aspect in the upcoming remake. It's so cool they've taken inspiration from RE1.5 for the RE2 Remake!!
It seems like they're taking a lot of ideas from 1.5, despite them saying otherwise in interviews.
Thank you Jared, this was a very illuminating video, and also very great alongside all your other Resident Evil Retrospectives. I'm actually glad they made the changes they did, especially the addition of revamping the police station from something drab to a more gothic structure of an ex-art gallery. Elza Walker probably would've been an interesting character but having Claire and that connection to Chris made the continuation better as well in my humble opinion.
I agree, they went in the right direction with 2. I still absolutely love 1.5's look, but I think that's because it's so different. If I wouldn't have had a finished version to compare it to, I might not like it as much.
I'm eager to try it. RE2 is my favourite, and going back and playing them all, I'm always comparing whichever RE I'm playing to 2. Can't wait for the remake!
What keeps bugging me about Resident Evil 1.5 is the plot and story, apparently Irons was a good guy that would probably sacrifice himself, Marvin would survive until the end, Ada was upfront with working with Umbrella, the story apparently didn't have an antagonist other than Birkin.
If we could only have the full script of the 1.5 story...
I can't Wait for Duke Nukem Forever Builds to Leak
I have the fortune of playing this again. I have all versions of RE1. RE2. RE3 on the PC, GC and PS.
I remember seeing early development pictures of RE2 in magazines in the late 90s. The final product was WAY different and I always wondered why.
This was really cool. I completely forgot there was an unfinished early build of 2, and had no idea it was available.
Man that was funny! Im so hyped about the remake of Resident Evil 2 (My favourite part of the series) and i just stumbled upon this video. I remember the leaked footage of RE1.5 back in the days and how excited I was. Haha. This video made my day. Gonna go look for the build.
Good to hear! That was my reaction as soon as I heard the playable build was available.
this is something that should get some kind of mention or nod in the remake would love to see that. it so cool to see things like this get picked up by the community.
They seem to be lifting areas and costumes from it
4:52 - Having a little trouble there bud?
Lol!
6:35 - Ah! That explains it. Hahahaha.
Great video.
Very cool! Thanks for this experience. The soundtrack is awesome.
It's been said a million times I'm sure, but this *should* have been the successor to Resident Evil. What we got was brilliant don't get me wrong, but this version just has you feeling some type of way.
Well done - Great job conveying the hidden treasure that is Resident Evil 1.5. Though I enjoy what ultimately became RE2, I also wish 1.5 could have been released as it looks to exist in a parallel universe to what is currently RE.
Wouldn’t it be great if Capcom finished 1.5 and released it in the near future?! That would make the perfect teaser to the upcoming remake
Elza Walker is a brunette on her passport but a blonde in real life. Also the Desert Eagle (which both characters can use) has the recoil of a 9mm.
I feel this way about StarCraft Ghost, such a missed opportunity.
It had so much potential.
Great channel. I love the RE series. Subbed! Thanks for posting this
You're welcome! Glad you liked it!
This was a great video. I too share many of the same feelings toward this prototype as you do.
I don't remember where, but there was a hint dropped (by a major Capcom team member) that this prototype may one day see an officially playable version. Now that we can reasonably expect an RE2 Remake, maybe, just maybe they'll include this prototype as an extra content. Which I consider that to be a possible scenario because with the release of RE Zero HD, they included an outfit that came from the N64 prototype version of Rebecca Chambers. What do y'all think?
+Late Night with NateWolf I would love to see that happen, but capcom is wayyyyy too good of bad decision making, for me to give them that kind of credit. I will however, cross my fingers and hope.
^^ Sad but true, the most i would expect from capcom is an eliza skin mod for Claire, nothing else sadly
Sorry, just now seeing this. For some reason youtube hasn't been notifying me of replies to my comments. If they don't add a playable prototype, i hope they at least make Elza Walker a playable costume to represent that prototype like RE Zero did with the white beret version of Rebecca.
I've been hearing that a lot lately. I hope they will. That would be an awesome little addition.
Capcom. REmake 1.5!
YEAH! Do it!
wow, I didn't know there was a playable version of 1.5 already, god bless the people working hard on it
Pretty soon they will have a fully finished ver of it out! Can't wait.
once again, amazing video.
that said, i look foward to your RE2 retrospective, im a very weird dude, i never finished RE2 and 3 because i got frustrated, but i already played RE4 and 1 multiple times, i wanna see if you can convince me to give them another chance
I like a good challenge. You're on!
It would be cool if a fan did a fan-made version of this game. Be interesting to see how it would play out :D
I think you might enjoy this:
*Resident Evil 1.5 4K Movie:* ruclips.net/video/1kWhCQxt7VQ/видео.html
The game that never was. I have heard so many rumors about this game. Too bad they scrapped it. But RE 2 turned out to be really good so that is good.
+Safersephiroth777 yeah, we were going to win either way in that scenario. I would have been happy with either coming out Honestly.
So many new zombie models, they should ve reused these in re 2 and 3
wow man amazing getting this burnt immediately, i remember seeing some of these scenes in game players magazine in the 90s :)
i wish someone would talk about me the way Av talks about RE 1.5 :(