I'm a skosh disappointed that you didn't mention his pigeons, but I'll let it go because I'm low in extraversion, and high in agreeableness and openness to experience 😁. Also because you're Dr. Grande and you're awesome, and I can't expect you to cover every aspect of a person's life in 14 minutes.
An abused and neglected child who was exploited for his fighting talent from age 12 and people expected him to be completely well adjusted as an adult. He's doing great these days, his one man show was brilliant. I think he's one of the most fascinating sports heroes ever.
I have been a boxer for over 25 years. I get what you're saying about aggression and all that. But this is how people from the street view boxing and it's a style that encompasses most fighters that had a tough background. Use that anger in the ring instead of unleashing it on the Normal public. Now in Tyson's case he did both. He was one of the best boxers ever, but his relationship with that Robin Givens, drug use, lack of mental awareness with the things he was going through tore him apart. Didn't really mention though that he has totally turned his life around. He's not the same guy he was even five or ten years ago. He's extremely humble, and is a much better man than he was back when he was a boxer. Sometimes as we get older, we see these flaws in our self and we can change. He's definitely a changed man. I watch his podcasts on the regular and he certainly isn't the same Mike Tyson we used to know. Some say losing his anger and aggression could make him a lesser boxer. I disagree. For the first time when he is fighting he is absolutely at peace with himself. Without so much anger and so many Demons Inside, I think he'll be able to focus a lot better. A little anger can be a powerful tool but if you take it over the top it brings nothing but pain and suffering as we have seen.
@@Sunset553 when I was young....most certainly. That parking spot would be mine. It would have been an honor to have my ass kicked by the great Mike Tyson back then. We're about the same age, he's just a little bit older. Now...nah... He can have it. I would show respec and not fight. This life is never easy. He's paid for his mistakes and then some. He deserves genuine respect and love.
Well said. His post-fight interview right after he lost to Kevin McBride shows how humble he became, and that he just didn't have the "animal in him" to fight like he did earlier in his career. It was kind of sad to watch, actually. I've watched a few of his podcasts as well, and I enjoy them. Especially the one with Holyfield. Now *that's* one humble man there (Holyfield that is).
Poor guy, like the hypnotist, listen very carefully to what I have to say.... My cheapshot is Tyson didnt like losing in a fair competition. Not very sporty but he was facing a life of extreme penalty from an early age. So many as such that they might have seemed like compliments of some nature 🙏
@Einstein's Monster I didn't find Kaufmann particularly "funny," either, but I do find him to be an extremely interesting person. I agree that if he had lived in today's world, there's a good chance he might have been diagnosed as ASD. I think the idea of neurodiversity is part of what makes him so interesting to me. Even in his time, not that long ago, it was much more difficult to be 'different' than it is now, and I feel like his unabashed weirdness made him a kind of trailblazer for unconventional personalities.
Mike said that and people seem to think that it's a great quote and reveals that he has some sort of deep meaningful street wisdom or something. I think it shows that he and the people who admire him are just violent animals.
@@DrogoBaggins987 No, its funny and also true to some extent, both literally and figuratively, I admire Mike for many reasons but not blind to his dark side and I most certainly aren't a 'violent animal', get a grip!
Drogo Baggins That’s harsh but I agree... MT is not a sage.I work out but never understood appeal of “boxing”. I got its foot work ,choreography but that’s all. Maybe it’s primal attraction-winner vs loser, cheetah vs prey ?
"Psychedelics; something that Joe Rogan has a particularly intense in", Dr Grande's way of saying: Joe "have you ever tried DMT" Rogan. My personal favourite is still probably: Joe "Michael Jackson was chemically castrated" Rogan. Thank you for the awesome content as usual!
@@EbonyPope I was waiting for someone to say that.. Thank you!! I wanted to edit/correct the comment myself, but if I did..... I would lose Dr Grande's heart reaction icon.... and.. well.... obviously, I just can't handle that.
I'd like to hear more about Dr Grande's professional analysis of psychedelics. More and more we hear about the benefits of Ayahuasca and psilocybin - while marijuana, also considered a psycedelic, seems to have very different effects. I am inclined to argue the benefits of psychedelics, but I'm not a doctor. I'd like to keep an open mind - could be I'm wrong.,
Do you have experience with psychedelics? I think it’s all about what you’re bringing to the table, but they seem to have a positive impact on the lives of so many people. Definitely a topic worthy of discussion 👍
True. There's a huge selection bias online with that sort of stuff. You always hear about the great aspects, while we rarely see the negative results/impacts.
Tyson has changed a lot since his aggressive days. He changed so much as he got older. He was molded into an aggressive fighter and not encouraged to be compassionate. Did you mention his love of pigeons or the loss of one of his daughters? He isn’t the argumentative brutish type of guy that he used to be. I recommend that you see the Tyson documentary and the Tyson one-man-show. I usually agree with you, Dr. Grande, but it seems like a lot of the current Tyson was left out of this analysis.
Brie’s Thoughts just wondering if you could talk about what dirt poor does to a persons mind during childhood and how professional boxers and other sports persons learn to take those aggressions out in the box but learn to deal with it in the ring and then leave it there. How to decompress from the ring even after only one punch. Sports other then boxing also need that.
I agree. You can't judge Mike Tyson by this interview alone. I didn't think it was a great one. I love Joe rogan but they were not on the same page a lot of the times. There is another interview by the new york public library and thought it was a great one. The interviewer understood tyson even though they were very different kinds of people.
His disdain for rogan's dmt enthusiasm was great. I don't think it's something I would recommend to Mike tyson lol, it's not a cure all, and who know what it would do to someone with so many issues
Tyson had an incredible and underrated level of sweet science to his boxing. His positioning; angles, head movement, footwork, stance switches, etc. put him in just the right place to land the right shots. And he was crazy accurate, which is far more important than brute strength and power. I get what people mean when they say he was just a bully who ran his opponents down. But if you don't have the skill to close the distance, it really doesn't matter how big and powerful you are.
Could you possibly do a video on psychedelics? The benefits and cons? I was the same impression as Joe Rogan on the subject and am now very curious as to your thoughts.
Okay so clearly mike Tyson was here before I was because I see one like and one dislike already... No but all jokes aside, this is another one of you're great ones dr. Grande, i like how you provide a relatively middle-ground speculation with no specific agenda. The middle is usually the safest place to stand, and I respect that tremendously. Just watched the buster Douglass fight again a few weeks ago, it was a good one. Great topic as always! - I started expecting one of your deadpan jokes when you mentioned the holyfield ear biting incident, (on the news it was aptly named Bite Night) but realized it was during the intro, where jokes dont seem to appear yet... You've got a specific formula I see...oh wait I just caught one. Just when I think I know the formula you surprise me again! I also want to mention that it's interesting how introspective tyson is about his life, not too many boxers are like that...but yeah, his aggression reflects poorly on the entire sport.
@mptavar I know a lot of people who have done multiple psychedelics and they dont know anything about this subject, although yes we can ramble for hours about how amazing this feels. This stuff has so many layers, personal experience is only one layer and it is definitely not a requirement, imo.
@mptavar by saying one could not have an interesting opinion about psychedelics without experience is disregarding a lot of people. And after some shrooms in there backyard they are validated on this whole complex subject all of a sudden? And please don't be silly by giving people advice about what dosage and drugs they should use in the youtube comment section.
Tyson has survived a difficult childhood and what probably influenced him to become the person he was, obviously. He is a person who has received all kinds of praise, money etc. He has won in life and faced great adversity. He is a person with wisdom beyond most by reflecting on much of what he has been through and I place great value in what he has to tell.
@@elisamastromarino7123 Heros or Icons?? I understand the charges were made by a promotions girl that might have consented to something in private. She didn't give up her fight judging by the results.
While I strongly agree, I also feel strongly that society doesn’t care about its children, especially poor black boys. For a child adopted by a gang by 11, he was surviving for a very long time. What happens to poor children in the United States could be crimes against humanity. Again I agree with you 💯 Just adding to concerns.
Tyson is a very interesting study for a variety of reasons, to be sure, and having studied his life, I'd say you've done a good job in your overall analysis. However, one can't dismiss the overwhelming influence of Cuss D'Amato, who instead of modifying Tysons behaviours in more positive ways, turned his rage and his insecurities into the ultimate war machine, by the use of hypnosis, the study of historical conquerors, creating a no mercy God complex and over expression of negative ego within Mike. Cuss did little to prepare Mike for what would happen after winning the Title and all the millions it brought to him, and this would prove to be a recipe for disaster. For anyone whose ever dealt with someone suffering from Bi Polar disorder, Mike's issues are not all that unique, it's all a matter of degree. I was concerned watching Mike on Joe Rogan, who generally has little regard for facts and good data on his Pod cast, as Mike seemed to be fighting the ghost of his past self, while displaying what I thought was a move towards a more manic side of his personality. I think he would be far better off to stick with the Weed and his pod cast, and remain calm.
Refreshing. Mismanagement penetrates many aspects of African American athletes and artists lives. Many NBA players are broke at their retirement. Tyson has more contributing factors for his demise, Bipolar illness and a life full of concussion makes me worry about him in his older ages. When I heard of the upcoming match I thought Tyson wanted to end his existential crisis.
MRooz Agree w you @ MRooz. Not only the AfricanAmerican athletes but also the AA musicians like Little Richard& others who through poor management and legal shenanigans lost copyrights, residuals, and millions of $$.
c My pet peeves is the overemphasize and praise of African Americans in music and sports as if the said population is just here to entertain us, insulting and racist.
That has to be one of your best analogies to date... the lemonade stand. "Can you handle our level of refreshment?!" Could be a potential slogan. "A purchase for any budget 10c - 500$!" 😆
Would love to see you create a video open-mindedly comparing LSD to Ayahuasca / Dimethyltryptaline (DMT). The research on DMT and mental health is fascinating (along w/ ayahuasca shamans and spas). It continues to trend as a hot topic-similar to the sensationalized LSD research that was conducted in the 60s and 70s.
Im surprised you didn't touch on Mike saying he was abducted off the streets as a child and sexually abused in an interview. I thought it would be important to the mental health aspects. But as always a great video Dr. Grande! :-)
The guy his biased, he said Mike tyson don’t represent box lol, Mike always had good technicque when he fought, maybe a little bit less when he got out of prison, he wasn’t al Agression in the ring, he never started throwing big hooks like a madman, it’s more a Poorly moralist analysis than a professional view
I honestly look forward to your videos everyday. As a person hoping to be a mental health counsellor one day, you're a true inspiration and would like to thank you for spreading mental health awareness using relatable topics for the everyday person.
He had no chance considering his background. I assume Robin Givens was either under the impression she could change him or used him for his fame; that didn't work out too well. Being a major boxing fan, I really wanted him to do well and get his act together. I still wish him well and hope he can find some peace and happiness. Thanks for covering this one, very interesting, as usual.
Dr Grande I was hoping to hear more context of Tyson's aggressive behavior, rather than a "rap sheet." The analysis did not address the abandonment Mike experienced from his biological father and step-father when Mike was in his developmental years. The abandonment, poverty and dangerous neighborhood alone would create symptoms of depression and anxiety. I was hoping you would have spoken more about the effect his trainer, Cus D'Amato had on his life. D'Amato adopted Mike when Mike was 16 because his mother died (another source of trauma/abandonment). If I remember correctly, Joe Rogan praised D'Amato for making Mike a great fighter. Mike expressed caution with the trainer's methods. In the world of boxing, an excellent trainer will do what he can to "get into the head" of his fighter. The trainer will strive to build trust with the fighter so that when it's fight night the fighter will listen to the trainer's instructions with confidence. I can only imagine a 16 year old Tyson, who had no father figure, was very malleable for D'Amato, to create that "killer instinct." Yes, Tyson has caused a lot of harm to himself and others; I am not making excuses for his violence. But, as a mental health professional educating people on mental illness I think there should be some attention to contextualizing a person's life; especially their formative years. It is my hope with contextualizing individuals lives people will learn to be more compassionate.
Please do a video on the mixed martial arts fighter Jon Jones... he is considered the best MMA fighter of all time, has an extensive criminal/substance abuse history and a very Jekyll and Hyde type personality. Specifically the interview Where he thought the cameras were off, flipped a switch and threatened to kill Daniel Cormier. Not diagnosing, but I speculate he has symptoms of narcissism, psychopathy, as well as borderline personality disorder. Love your videos!
How can you not be when your life is summarized in barbarism in and out of the ring. They get a bunch of black kid with anger issues of many sorts and threw them in the ring so the emperor can watch them tearing each other apart. The enablers come in different colors.
Mike Tyson is a good representation of the 80s in general - it’s hard not to see that over the top, superior firepower element of Reaganite America in him.
Interesting as always! One thing that really struck me when listing to Rogans interview with Tyson is the level of regret and shame Tyson had for his past. Tyson really does not want to be associated with violence and aggression anymore. I felt a lot of sympathy for Tyson because of this.
He’s not a “flawed, less than perfect guy, that is good at heart and does the right thing even though ppl will hate him for it...” well that’s my understanding at least. I can appreciate that he had a bad upbringing and has a lot of anger... but 1) he beat up Robin Givens (I was a kid but I remembered when that happened) 2)he bit Holyfield’s ears for no damn reason (I was paying less attention by this time)... 3) he got into all those squabbles after (at that point I couldn’t care less so I don’t know the details other than what was said in this video)... Anti heroes are - Robin Hood, Deadpool, Clint Eastwood in TGTBTU, Wolverine, Snape, Riddick... (yes yes, all my references are tv and comics related - I’m not high brow forgive me). I just can’t see him as the lovable a-hole.
I respect Dr. Grande, but I disagree with his take. Particularly his last point. It all depends on perspective. Mike Tyson is indeed a hero to many (not an anti-hero). You would have to be from the hood to understand the hero Mike Tyson is. You'd also have to believe all the lies we've been told (James Baldwin) about ourselves, and about others. Mike's monologue clearly displays his intelligence, his ability to discern, his resilience and his fortitude. He's also an example of, "It's not over, until it's over". I was born in Brooklyn, NY in the early 60's, and to me, irrespective of Mike Tyson's journey, Mike Tyson is definitely a hero. :-)
I don't understand what's wrong with our society that so many people worship celebrities who are clearly corrupt. Dr. Grande is right, and it's unfair to victims when others downplay what their abusers do to them. It's shameful, really.
I believe in redemption. I've followed Mike Tyson's career and journey and watched his growth as a person and find it remarkable. One interesting note about Tyson during his interview with Rogan was how self aware and sensitive he is, stating how he doesn't like when he snaps at his wife and family while training, bc the training is bringing back is aggression. The man speaks his truth.
A bad society is the worst. Racism, discrimination, inferior education, housing, unemployment, yada, yada, yada! This country created, then executed a system of racism to deliberately destroy a specific group of people, then the privileged blame the victim. Failure of America to face the lies it tells itself about race. A rotten shame! History is our greatest teacher. Start with the Doctrine of Exclusion (the foundation for the system of racism), then work your way up to modern day. It's time to stop the lies America tells itself! I celebrate Mike Tyson, as well as all the rest that made it through hell and found their way back. The people who judge them so harshly could not have done it! Suicide would have been their only way out.
There’s one aspect of Tyson not mentioned in this analysis and that is his effort to become a better person later in his life. I believe it is genuine.
Upon reflection I've come up with a theory.. Tyson was the 'Anti-Van Gogh', .. Now please, h-ear me out: -Tyson became famous for the 'wrong'/malevolent reasons in his profession, in contrast Van Gogh never became famous (during his lifetime) despite making all of the 'right'/benevolent contributions to his profession. -During his career, Tyson was wealthy and clearly not generous (unless we consider bribes as generosity), meanwhile Van Gogh was so generous to the extreme the church he was representing at the time essentially fired him. -Tyson has been known for his mistreatment of women, Van Gogh was known to be taken advantage of by women. -Tyson threatened to eat his opponents children, whilst Van Gogh... -Finally.. Tyson removed ears with the intention to harm, whilst Van Gogh removed his own ear with the intention of reconciliation. All in all, the only thing they have in common apart for being considered one of the best in their respective fields, is that they both seem to share some 'toys in the attic'... Bobby Fisher, anyone?.. John Nash? Perhaps it's correlation rather than causation, but there seems to be a pattern here. 👀
Tyson was given way too many chances and it's disgusting the way people not only ignore and downplay his crimes, but even hold him up as a hero. Says so much about our country.
Probably the same reason why people like you forget about the crimes of communism (100,000,000 died) but find it acceptable to have a username like yours?
Your evidence-based understanding of the benefits and harms of psychedelics requires significant attention. Perhaps you could devote an episode to the new research on addiction, depression, ptsd, etc.
I think people that people overlook Tyson's criminal behaviour, awful money management and abusive outbursts (over the years) due to his incredible athleticism in the ring and how dangerous he was. When people say they "respect" him, they are respecting Iron Mike the champion boxer and how amazing he actually was at winning fights quick and seemingly easily. He has never been any kind of moral paragon or pillar of virtue, but he doesn't exalt himself as such. He is a fighter.
I know Mike for ~20 years. He is the nicest warm hearted person you can ever meet. He was my neighbor in Vegas. Mike is doing well now because he has a great wife. Mike can’t go it alone in life. When Cus died and Don King & Co came along that was the end of Mike until 2009. Great video Dr
Greetings from Norway! I've been a subscriber for a couple of months now, watching almost all of your videos. I have a huge interest in psychology, especially when it comes to "studying" the mind of serial killers, murderers, cult leaders and pyramid schemes in general. It fascinates me how people can be brainwashed and manipulated into believing and worshipping the most bizarre things.. ..And when it comes to murderers, my fascination is based off the big question "WHY?". Why does some people with a traumatic childhood end up taking lives, while others with very similar backgrounds become good people who couldn't hurt a fly? I enjoy your dry humor as well, it makes these dark subjects a little easier to listen to. I think it's a good thing you're not super detailed about these heinous acts. The "why?" is a lot more interesting than the "how?". Although I really do enjoy your content, I gotta admit that I love falling asleep to your videos. It might not be the best subjects to listen to while falling asleep, but there's just something about your voice that relaxes me. Yup! I might just be another case for you to solve, right here :'D. Jokes aside though, please do one with Peter Madsen, the Danish "rocket science" guy who killed Kim Wall, the Swedish journalist.
Update! This madman escaped prison! He was able to hold a female psychologist hostage by using a "gun like" object, and then he proceeded to wear a fake bomb belt. This was all over the news yesterday. They did get him though. You should really do an analysis about this now that it's fresh again. I can't wait to hear your dry humor jokes on this dude!
I love Dr. Grande but I disagree with him saying Tyson was bad for boxing. He was literally the most famous boxer of the last 35 years, and the most famous since Ali. His early career captured the minds of the nation, and then the world. He drew millions and millions of eyes to boxing that would never have watched the sport otherwise. He inspired generations of boxers and MMA fighters to come. Despite his transgressions, he is still beloved today. The truth is he was good and bad for boxing, but more good then bad imo.
Psychedelics saved my life when I was 20 I did shrooms an woke up a new person with a much better an clearer outlook on my life I only did it once after that an it was ok but that first time actually changed my life
I was hoping you'd touch on Mike's comments about Cus D'Amato. I found this part of the conversation with Joe Rogan particularly fascinating. Mike Tyson made several references to D'Amato as someone who would be locked away from society today and of mind games (psychological abuse?). Perhaps a topic for another video. Thanks Dr Grande, always appreciate your effort and time.
You made some excellent reflections at the end. I agree with you, he is certainly an antihero. Thank you for all you hard work Dr. Grande, I hope you can squeeze in some time for relaxation and leisure in between your many projects. Please know that your efforts are always much appreciated.❤️
Regarding him attacking people, I used to work at a Rap music club in Manhattan in 1997-99. Mike Tyson would come in very often and every time he was there people would try to pick fights with him. It never was a big person or a person that looked like a fighter. It was always a skinny person that appeared to want to get hit so they could get a payout. The bouncers (we always had 30 to 40 bouncers on Rap nights and 4-6 on regular nights) would always form a circle around Mike, pull him to the side or out the front door and spend what seemed like hours talking sense to him. He would get so angry and worked up but never actually hit someone. They would eventually convince him that the person only wanted him to hit them so they could get money. The thing is this happened every single time he came in and he always had to be talked down from his rage. Could you imagine if everywhere you went someone would start a fight with you just because you are rich and will have to pay them?
The entire purpose of an anti-hero and their constant popularity is because us as a society can associate ourselves within that character to a certain degree. Therefore we feel empathy and sometimes even sympathy for such person that we begin to advocate for them because we feel as though we advocate for ourselves. The complicated nature of these characters and the fact that they are not always good, not always bad, and most often confused describes what most people can feel today. Just my opinion though.
It wasn't Tyson who originally ruined the sportsmanship. It was Mohammed Ali. People loved it. Tyson just took it seriously. He meant it. Yes Tyson is popularity is mostly because he is the anti hero. He reminds us "normal" people. That are both good and bad people at times. That were just humans nothing nore nothing left. And being a person who also afflicted with bipolar and who also had a not great up bringing in life. I can relate so much of what he personally went through to my own life while living with this illness. U really don't fully understand this illness unless you've come full circle. And Tyson my friend has come full circle. To the person he always wished he could be. Happy, just happy about the little things in life. Make life so much more worth living then all that other stuff.
When you see the 'old' Tyson footage / interviews, Mike was actually a bright and surprisingly sensitive young man, often so anxious before fight he was physically ill. The was a marked decline in his behavior after he lost father figure Cus D'Amato in 85. Tyson has been a total asshole, that's a fact, but he reinvigorated boxing at a a time the heavyweight division was little more than old men and slobs shuffling around the ring. Tyson wasn't just a knock em out one trick pony, he was a highly skilled boxer with formidable talent. At 5'11", he was also substantially smaller than most of his opponents, most hevyweights being around 6'3" and up. He's a unstable violent prick, but hey, nice guys finish last. I have to laugh however every time I hear boxing described as the 'sweet science'. Whilst you could describe it almost as a balletic art of evasion and brutal game of strategy, in reality, its more or less two people inflicting CTE on on another for the entertainment of the audience. Boxing has always been a dirty game with many connections to the criminal underworld pulling the strings, and in the end, its the fighters who get used up and discarded.
As a boxing aficionado and humble practitioner, I can only commend your knowledge of the noble art. I’d love to hear your in-depth on the relationship between Cus D’Amato and Tyson, he’s adamant to this day that Cus has been the only person who really cared for him, although I’m not too sure that’s really the case... maybe a Cus d’Amato special is in order, doc?
I’m surprised that you didn’t touch on the topic of TBI in this video. I would be interested in hearing you discuss common personality changes associated with TBI in the context of various sports figures (including Tyson), and perhaps some of the trauma related autopsy findings on late sports celebrities.
The term the sweet science was reintroduced by Sugar Ray Robinson (the perfectly skilled boxer). Mike Tyson had technicality, athletic abilities were only the half of it. His agression did not add to his ability, but his frame and natural abilities allowed him to be the perfect candidate for Cus D'amato's peakaboo style. Cus who already trained and coached the youngest heavyweight champ had a prospect handed to him towards the end of his life seemingly built for the style of boxing D'amato had created and perfected. Combined with the fact that Cus had more drive to get one last champion quickly because of his age he was more desperate to have Tyson become a champion and not to get discouraged and quit. Cus noticed that Tyson had trust issues and low self esteem so to make sure he wouldn't lose his drive, Cus developed an ego into Tyson to give him his persona of using anger and fear as mental weapons against other fighters. This is what I have picked up on Tyson that is very important to take into consideration aswell.
I wish you would have spoken more about how he has turned his life around for the better in many different ways. I feel that the exclusion of this to be an extreme disservice to your analysis.
A boxing match is a regulated sport. If a boxer deviates from the regs, as Tyson did at times, he gets tossed out. Still, I would never have gotten in the ring with him even if I thought he would play by the rules. No way.
Hey, Doc. I was wondering if you could do Tyson Fury -- he's the current heavy weight champion in boxing. He had suicidal idealization and substance use issues. He has been very candid in interviews. I think he may have bi-polar, but its tough to know. It would be great to see your take on someone with that personality.
Can you do a video on what you think about shows like Maury, Jerry Springer, etc? They’re very entertaining, but I suspect they might be pretty damaging to the people on the shows.
Whether his aggression served boxing well or not, I feel Tyson was speaking his truth about such things as how knock outs made him feel more angry and the over the top aggression that plagued him all throughout his younger years.
As Tyson was a man of extraordinary talent his fans viewed him as a demigod. His "superhuman" status may be the reason others minimized or overlooked his egregious behaviour outside the ring. It may also be an indicator of moral decay resulting in his fans having lower expectations in terms of his behaviour and conduct. I tend to agree that Tyson's fighting style had a negative impact on the sport in in terms of the level brutality and agression. As always, thanks for another insightful and interesting analysis!
Dr Grande, a scientifically informed look at benefits and risks of various psychedelic substances would be of great help. People really seem polarized about that topic but there should be one definitive truth. Risks are evident but what really are the benefits?
I think he should weigh in on the data over this subject. My understanding is that at over 35+-year-old (being very conservative, probably over 25+ hardly any cases) you are extremely unlikely to develop the first psychotic episode, for any reason. And Grande didn't mention Tyson having psychotic episodes before, so, these drugs could hardly trigger the first one But I would really know the data on this. So for Tyson at his age it would be incredible unlikely to trigger anything bad, and probably more good than bad.
I may have commented on this already but I believe Tyson to be a changed man in many ways. He's definetely a lot humbler and doesn't make the over the top comments in the manner he used to. IMHO
I went to a mike Tyson match once at the Palace of Auburn Hills near Detroit. He fought Andrew Golota I think. The fight was stopped and the crowd started fighting. They escorted the fighters outta the ring. That was intense. You are right he had the ability to fight but he lacked that showmanship. Good video!!
Hey Doc, can you do a full episode on psychedelics? It’s hard to find info on the risks etc. - there’s so much info from people who’ve had positive experiences. My friend stopped me from going off to do ayahuasca. I’d been convinced by various celebrity endorsers that it was the answer to mental health problems. So glad my friend stopped me. I could have worsened my mental state. Would be great to hear your in-depth opinion on this topic.
Dr Grande I loved your analysis of this situation but personally I can't stand Mike Tyson he seem to get away with so much he should have spent more time in jail Thanks Dr Grande that's just my opinion
“… neighborhoods known for elevated levels of criminality… The way you phrase things is awesome, Dr. Grande. I would have said “ bad neighborhood” but you’re more nuanced & discreet. 🙂
I’m also really disturbed by how much that is overlooked. People are mentioning how in the last few years he’s made a lot of changes personality wise for the better, I want to know what he has to say about his conviction. If it is true I don’t understand how people can speak highly of him. It is an unforgivable act.
If the most popular boxer in the world were to be even accused of rape in today's Me Too movement, it would ruin his career for the foreseeable future. It is insane that Mike was able to bounce right back after serving time in prison for raping a young woman.
I wish someday you do a video about Flordelis, she’s a preacher in Brasil that just have been charge with murder of her own son, that is also her husband. This story definitely deserves a Netflix special
“Everyone that you fight is not your enemy and everyone who helps you is not your friend.”
― Mike Tyson
Great quote
Just another meaningless quote, but cause Tyson said it everyone loves it.
@@controllerbrain cause it's true man
@@controllerbrain 🤭
He means by utility, people are just offering help just by a job? Not actual help, a reputation help. Idk that's my guess.
I'm a skosh disappointed that you didn't mention his pigeons, but I'll let it go because I'm low in extraversion, and high in agreeableness and openness to experience 😁. Also because you're Dr. Grande and you're awesome, and I can't expect you to cover every aspect of a person's life in 14 minutes.
Now kith.
Fern 😀😀😀😀
Not the pigeons 😂😂😂
How about the tigers
haha brilliant comment
An abused and neglected child who was exploited for his fighting talent from age 12 and people expected him to be completely well adjusted as an adult. He's doing great these days, his one man show was brilliant. I think he's one of the most fascinating sports heroes ever.
I have been a boxer for over 25 years. I get what you're saying about aggression and all that. But this is how people from the street view boxing and it's a style that encompasses most fighters that had a tough background. Use that anger in the ring instead of unleashing it on the Normal public. Now in Tyson's case he did both. He was one of the best boxers ever, but his relationship with that Robin Givens, drug use, lack of mental awareness with the things he was going through tore him apart. Didn't really mention though that he has totally turned his life around. He's not the same guy he was even five or ten years ago. He's extremely humble, and is a much better man than he was back when he was a boxer. Sometimes as we get older, we see these flaws in our self and we can change. He's definitely a changed man. I watch his podcasts on the regular and he certainly isn't the same Mike Tyson we used to know. Some say losing his anger and aggression could make him a lesser boxer. I disagree. For the first time when he is fighting he is absolutely at peace with himself. Without so much anger and so many Demons Inside, I think he'll be able to focus a lot better. A little anger can be a powerful tool but if you take it over the top it brings nothing but pain and suffering as we have seen.
If you and Mike Tyson pulled up to a parking space at the same time, would you take the space?
@@Sunset553 when I was young....most certainly. That parking spot would be mine. It would have been an honor to have my ass kicked by the great Mike Tyson back then. We're about the same age, he's just a little bit older. Now...nah... He can have it. I would show respec and not fight. This life is never easy. He's paid for his mistakes and then some. He deserves genuine respect and love.
Well said. His post-fight interview right after he lost to Kevin McBride shows how humble he became, and that he just didn't have the "animal in him" to fight like he did earlier in his career. It was kind of sad to watch, actually. I've watched a few of his podcasts as well, and I enjoy them. Especially the one with Holyfield. Now *that's* one humble man there (Holyfield that is).
Good men can rise to the occasion knowing what harm that may cause.
Highly agree. Always a fan of Iron Mike. The podcasts, fight breakdowns, even the send-ups like Mike in "The Hangover", it all adds to the legend.
Holyfield was just lucky he didn't have 3 ears. Please cover Andy Kaufman.
Poor guy, like the hypnotist, listen very carefully to what I have to say....
My cheapshot is Tyson didnt like losing in a fair competition. Not very sporty but he was facing a life of extreme penalty from an early age. So many as such that they might have seemed like compliments of some nature 🙏
@Einstein's Monster I didn't find Kaufmann particularly "funny," either, but I do find him to be an extremely interesting person. I agree that if he had lived in today's world, there's a good chance he might have been diagnosed as ASD. I think the idea of neurodiversity is part of what makes him so interesting to me. Even in his time, not that long ago, it was much more difficult to be 'different' than it is now, and I feel like his unabashed weirdness made him a kind of trailblazer for unconventional personalities.
Andy Kaufman would be interesting!
Mr. Kaufman just got lucky that his student film made it into the social-club of midnight showings, just like Rocky Horror.
“Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.”
― Mike Tyson
I remember that from Tyson’s first interview with Rogan.
Ask robbin but remember she's a looser cannon, nobody is keeping her in check
Mike said that and people seem to think that it's a great quote and reveals that he has some sort of deep meaningful street wisdom or something. I think it shows that he and the people who admire him are just violent animals.
@@DrogoBaggins987 No, its funny and also true to some extent, both literally and figuratively, I admire Mike for many reasons but not blind to his dark side and I most certainly aren't a 'violent animal', get a grip!
Drogo Baggins That’s harsh but I agree... MT is not a sage.I work out but never understood appeal of “boxing”. I got its foot work ,choreography but that’s all. Maybe it’s primal attraction-winner vs loser, cheetah vs prey ?
The lemonade stand analogy has me pondering life. LOL
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"Psychedelics; something that Joe Rogan has a particularly intense in",
Dr Grande's way of saying:
Joe "have you ever tried DMT" Rogan.
My personal favourite is still probably: Joe "Michael Jackson was chemically castrated" Rogan.
Thank you for the awesome content as usual!
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@@EbonyPope I was waiting for someone to say that.. Thank you!! I wanted to edit/correct the comment myself, but if I did..... I would lose Dr Grande's heart reaction icon.... and.. well.... obviously, I just can't handle that.
I'd like to hear more about Dr Grande's professional analysis of psychedelics. More and more we hear about the benefits of Ayahuasca and psilocybin - while marijuana, also considered a psycedelic, seems to have very different effects. I am inclined to argue the benefits of psychedelics, but I'm not a doctor. I'd like to keep an open mind - could be I'm wrong.,
Do you have experience with psychedelics? I think it’s all about what you’re bringing to the table, but they seem to have a positive impact on the lives of so many people. Definitely a topic worthy of discussion 👍
There’s a similar thread in the comments section. We’re looking forward to this Vid!
Agree.
True. There's a huge selection bias online with that sort of stuff. You always hear about the great aspects, while we rarely see the negative results/impacts.
They tend to be mind altering, like anything in life, however permanent 🙏
Tyson has changed a lot since his aggressive days. He changed so much as he got older. He was molded into an aggressive fighter and not encouraged to be compassionate.
Did you mention his love of pigeons or the loss of one of his daughters? He isn’t the argumentative brutish type of guy that he used to be. I recommend that you see the Tyson documentary and the Tyson one-man-show.
I usually agree with you, Dr. Grande, but it seems like a lot of the current Tyson was left out of this analysis.
Right?
Brie’s Thoughts just wondering if you could talk about what dirt poor does to a persons mind during childhood and how professional boxers and other sports persons learn to take those aggressions out in the box but learn to deal with it in the ring and then leave it there. How to decompress from the ring even after only one punch. Sports other then boxing also need that.
A leopard does not change it's spots. People worship Tyson because the think he is a sportsman. He is actually a cheat.
I agree. You can't judge Mike Tyson by this interview alone. I didn't think it was a great one. I love Joe rogan but they were not on the same page a lot of the times. There is another interview by the new york public library and thought it was a great one. The interviewer understood tyson even though they were very different kinds of people.
@@lorisutherland7728 Good point. Driving in traffic needs that, too. Must disengage rapidly.
I always forget that the dry humor is coming at the least expected moment.
His disdain for rogan's dmt enthusiasm was great. I don't think it's something I would recommend to Mike tyson lol, it's not a cure all, and who know what it would do to someone with so many issues
You must be new here
Tyson had an incredible and underrated level of sweet science to his boxing. His positioning; angles, head movement, footwork, stance switches, etc. put him in just the right place to land the right shots. And he was crazy accurate, which is far more important than brute strength and power. I get what people mean when they say he was just a bully who ran his opponents down. But if you don't have the skill to close the distance, it really doesn't matter how big and powerful you are.
Tyson was an example on how society can overlook behavior problems...
I can't get enough of your "Hello this is Dr. Grande" intro, I don't know why
Can't wait to watch, would also love to see an analysis on the late David Foster Wallace or Chris Farley.
On that note, it’d be interesting to here Dr. Grande’s comments/thoughts on SNL’s drug history (specifically 70’s cocaine)
@@unahaller6719 bellushi!!
@@unahaller6719 cocaine... It's a Helluva drug!
I’ve already asked for DFW. Looking forward to it.
Farley!!
Could you possibly do a video on psychedelics? The benefits and cons? I was the same impression as Joe Rogan on the subject and am now very curious as to your thoughts.
Okay so clearly mike Tyson was here before I was because I see one like and one dislike already...
No but all jokes aside, this is another one of you're great ones dr. Grande, i like how you provide a relatively middle-ground speculation with no specific agenda. The middle is usually the safest place to stand, and I respect that tremendously.
Just watched the buster Douglass fight again a few weeks ago, it was a good one.
Great topic as always!
- I started expecting one of your deadpan jokes when you mentioned the holyfield ear biting incident, (on the news it was aptly named Bite Night) but realized it was during the intro, where jokes dont seem to appear yet... You've got a specific formula I see...oh wait I just caught one. Just when I think I know the formula you surprise me again!
I also want to mention that it's interesting how introspective tyson is about his life, not too many boxers are like that...but yeah, his aggression reflects poorly on the entire sport.
"If you can't beat them , eat em" - Mike Tyson
That's Kirby.
What do you think of Sam Harris’ opinions on psychedelics? I’d like a whole video of your knowledge and thoughts on psychedelics.
Aka Jacob Joe young Rogan
I think a person who hasn't experimented with psychedelics does not have interesting opinions on the subject.
@@missdemeanor3524 that's a bit short sided imo. The fact that someone has personal experience doesn't mean that much on a Meta level
@mptavar I know a lot of people who have done multiple psychedelics and they dont know anything about this subject, although yes we can ramble for hours about how amazing this feels.
This stuff has so many layers, personal experience is only one layer and it is definitely not a requirement, imo.
@mptavar by saying one could not have an interesting opinion about psychedelics without experience is disregarding a lot of people. And after some shrooms in there backyard they are validated on this whole complex subject all of a sudden?
And please don't be silly by giving people advice about what dosage and drugs they should use in the youtube comment section.
I think Vincent Van Gogh would be a great topic for you to cover Dr. Grande, cheers!
There is a very thourough & good Biographics episode on VVG. 🌻
OOOOH Burn, do a whole segment on Joe Rogan please!
I like Mr.Rogan, but he is overly obsessed with drug use and it's alleged benefits.
And praying manti...
I feel for him. He’s done better than I would have in his unique and difficult life circumstances.
Great insights.
@@fozziebear5351 WISE UP
Yes sister. I agree. Everyone can change. Everyone!. Im a 60 year old woman. I am not who i used to be. Praise GOD
Fozzie Bear
What victims?
He is very intelligent
@@fozziebear5351 they just wanted to convict a black man this guy didn’t even give a fair shake
Tyson has survived a difficult childhood and what probably influenced him to become the person he was, obviously. He is a person who has received all kinds of praise, money etc. He has won in life and faced great adversity. He is a person with wisdom beyond most by reflecting on much of what he has been through and I place great value in what he has to tell.
We really don't give an f when somebody is sexually assaulted do we as a society?
Nope. You said it! He's a hero, right? 🙄
We are all suseptable to sexual assault in every society and some still don't give a F.
@@elisamastromarino7123 Heros or Icons??
I understand the charges were made by a promotions girl that might have consented to something in private.
She didn't give up her fight judging by the results.
While I strongly agree, I also feel strongly that society doesn’t care about its children, especially poor black boys. For a child adopted by a gang by 11, he was surviving for a very long time. What happens to poor children in the United States could be crimes against humanity. Again I agree with you 💯 Just adding to concerns.
This was an incredible analysis of Mike Tyson, I've never heard a better summarization of the guy's attitude and mental health than this
Tyson is a very interesting study for a variety of reasons, to be sure, and having studied his life, I'd say you've done a good job in your overall analysis. However, one can't dismiss the overwhelming influence of Cuss D'Amato, who instead of modifying Tysons behaviours in more positive ways, turned his rage and his insecurities into the ultimate war machine, by the use of hypnosis, the study of historical conquerors, creating a no mercy God complex and over expression of negative ego within Mike.
Cuss did little to prepare Mike for what would happen after winning the Title and all the millions it brought to him, and this would prove to be a recipe for disaster.
For anyone whose ever dealt with someone suffering from Bi Polar disorder, Mike's issues are not all that unique, it's all a matter of degree.
I was concerned watching Mike on Joe Rogan, who generally has little regard for facts and good data on his Pod cast, as Mike seemed to be fighting the ghost of his past self, while displaying what I thought was a move towards a more manic side of his personality. I think he would be far better off to stick with the Weed and his pod cast, and remain calm.
Very good comment
Refreshing. Mismanagement penetrates many aspects of African American athletes and artists lives. Many NBA players are broke at their retirement. Tyson has more contributing factors for his demise, Bipolar illness and a life full of concussion makes me worry about him in his older ages. When I heard of the upcoming match I thought Tyson wanted to end his existential crisis.
MRooz Agree w you @ MRooz. Not only the AfricanAmerican athletes but also the AA musicians like Little Richard& others who through poor management and legal shenanigans lost copyrights, residuals, and millions of $$.
c My pet peeves is the overemphasize and praise of African Americans in music and sports as if the said population is just here to entertain us, insulting and racist.
@@HiddenHandMedia I thought the same thing. I've no doubt that Mike could still fight, but the question is can he survive the aftermath?
I love you dr. Grande. You know what the people want!
That has to be one of your best analogies to date... the lemonade stand. "Can you handle our level of refreshment?!" Could be a potential slogan. "A purchase for any budget 10c - 500$!" 😆
I get so many ads in your videos now (which are no problem) - that’s definitely a sign of a successful channel.
Would love to see you create a video open-mindedly comparing LSD to Ayahuasca / Dimethyltryptaline (DMT). The research on DMT and mental health is fascinating (along w/ ayahuasca shamans and spas). It continues to trend as a hot topic-similar to the sensationalized LSD research that was conducted in the 60s and 70s.
Im surprised you didn't touch on Mike saying he was abducted off the streets as a child and sexually abused in an interview. I thought it would be important to the mental health aspects. But as always a great video Dr. Grande! :-)
Really..didn't know that
@@franmellor9843 He mentions it briefly in an interview, it's a really heavy subject.
@@GIFT1FROM1THE1GODZ not surprised he acts damaged
The guy his biased, he said Mike tyson don’t represent box lol, Mike always had good technicque when he fought, maybe a little bit less when he got out of prison, he wasn’t al Agression in the ring, he never started throwing big hooks like a madman, it’s more a Poorly moralist analysis than a professional view
I honestly look forward to your videos everyday. As a person hoping to be a mental health counsellor one day, you're a true inspiration and would like to thank you for spreading mental health awareness using relatable topics for the everyday person.
Don't put him back in the ring! He's an old man with an anger addiction that informs his behaviour in the ring. Egging him on is ghoulish.
He's a much more stable and tempered man these days. He's boxing again because he wants to have some fun.
Besides it is for charity. Both of them are 50 something, it's very dangerous.
Ennis please shut up you haven't a clue what you're talking about. I could look at your pic and past judgement but I dont know your story 🤷♂️🤫
He had no chance considering his background. I assume Robin Givens was either under the impression she could change him or used him for his fame; that didn't work out too well. Being a major boxing fan, I really wanted him to do well and get his act together. I still wish him well and hope he can find some peace and happiness. Thanks for covering this one, very interesting, as usual.
Dr Grande I was hoping to hear more context of Tyson's aggressive behavior, rather than a "rap sheet." The analysis did not address the abandonment Mike experienced from his biological father and step-father when Mike was in his developmental years. The abandonment, poverty and dangerous neighborhood alone would create symptoms of depression and anxiety. I was hoping you would have spoken more about the effect his trainer, Cus D'Amato had on his life. D'Amato adopted Mike when Mike was 16 because his mother died (another source of trauma/abandonment). If I remember correctly, Joe Rogan praised D'Amato for making Mike a great fighter. Mike expressed caution with the trainer's methods. In the world of boxing, an excellent trainer will do what he can to "get into the head" of his fighter. The trainer will strive to build trust with the fighter so that when it's fight night the fighter will listen to the trainer's instructions with confidence. I can only imagine a 16 year old Tyson, who had no father figure, was very malleable for D'Amato, to create that "killer instinct." Yes, Tyson has caused a lot of harm to himself and others; I am not making excuses for his violence. But, as a mental health professional educating people on mental illness I think there should be some attention to contextualizing a person's life; especially their formative years. It is my hope with contextualizing individuals lives people will learn to be more compassionate.
Brilliantly said
Please do a video on the mixed martial arts fighter Jon Jones... he is considered the best MMA fighter of all time, has an extensive criminal/substance abuse history and a very Jekyll and Hyde type personality. Specifically the interview Where he thought the cameras were off, flipped a switch and threatened to kill Daniel Cormier. Not diagnosing, but I speculate he has symptoms of narcissism, psychopathy, as well as borderline personality disorder. Love your videos!
How can you not be when your life is summarized in barbarism in and out of the ring. They get a bunch of black kid with anger issues of many sorts and threw them in the ring so the emperor can watch them tearing each other apart.
The enablers come in different colors.
Mike Tyson is a good representation of the 80s in general - it’s hard not to see that over the top, superior firepower element of Reaganite America in him.
Next time you should analyze your own personality for us
Janine Rioux I’m pretty sure he already has a video where he analyzes his own personality type.
Yes. Check out his older videos.
Interesting as always!
One thing that really struck me when listing to Rogans interview with Tyson is the level of regret and shame Tyson had for his past. Tyson really does not want to be associated with violence and aggression anymore. I felt a lot of sympathy for Tyson because of this.
Been up for 42 seconds and already a dislike? Must be Tyson. Thx Dr Grande
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I wouldn’t have thought of Tyson as the anti-hero; to me, he was a straight up villain.
That s because you only see one side of the coin....
Agreed. He’s a villain, but I hope he’s on his path to gaining insight and perhaps redemption to some degree.
@@alijane6675 No one believes that b.s story.
He’s not a “flawed, less than perfect guy, that is good at heart and does the right thing even though ppl will hate him for it...” well that’s my understanding at least. I can appreciate that he had a bad upbringing and has a lot of anger... but
1) he beat up Robin Givens (I was a kid but I remembered when that happened)
2)he bit Holyfield’s ears for no damn reason (I was paying less attention by this time)...
3) he got into all those squabbles after (at that point I couldn’t care less so I don’t know the details other than what was said in this video)...
Anti heroes are - Robin Hood, Deadpool, Clint Eastwood in TGTBTU, Wolverine, Snape, Riddick... (yes yes, all my references are tv and comics related - I’m not high brow forgive me). I just can’t see him as the lovable a-hole.
You shouldn't judge someone based on things that happened over 10 years ago.
I respect Dr. Grande, but I disagree with his take. Particularly his last point. It all depends on perspective. Mike Tyson is indeed a hero to many (not an anti-hero). You would have to be from the hood to understand the hero Mike Tyson is. You'd also have to believe all the lies we've been told (James Baldwin) about ourselves, and about others. Mike's monologue clearly displays his intelligence, his ability to discern, his resilience and his fortitude. He's also an example of, "It's not over, until it's over". I was born in Brooklyn, NY in the early 60's, and to me, irrespective of Mike Tyson's journey, Mike Tyson is definitely a hero. :-)
I don't understand what's wrong with our society that so many people worship celebrities who are clearly corrupt. Dr. Grande is right, and it's unfair to victims when others downplay what their abusers do to them. It's shameful, really.
I believe in redemption. I've followed Mike Tyson's career and journey and watched his growth as a person and find it remarkable. One interesting note about Tyson during his interview with Rogan was how self aware and sensitive he is, stating how he doesn't like when he snaps at his wife and family while training, bc the training is bringing back is aggression. The man speaks his truth.
A bad society is the worst. Racism, discrimination, inferior education, housing, unemployment, yada, yada, yada! This country created, then executed a system of racism to deliberately destroy a specific group of people, then the privileged blame the victim. Failure of America to face the lies it tells itself about race. A rotten shame! History is our greatest teacher. Start with the Doctrine of Exclusion (the foundation for the system of racism), then work your way up to modern day. It's time to stop the lies America tells itself! I celebrate Mike Tyson, as well as all the rest that made it through hell and found their way back. The people who judge them so harshly could not have done it! Suicide would have been their only way out.
There’s one aspect of Tyson not mentioned in this analysis and that is his effort to become a better person later in his life. I believe it is genuine.
“Thaths methed up”
Funny
Upon reflection I've come up with a theory.. Tyson was the 'Anti-Van Gogh',
.. Now please, h-ear me out:
-Tyson became famous for the 'wrong'/malevolent reasons in his profession, in contrast Van Gogh never became famous (during his lifetime) despite making all of the 'right'/benevolent contributions to his profession.
-During his career, Tyson was wealthy and clearly not generous (unless we consider bribes as generosity), meanwhile Van Gogh was so generous to the extreme the church he was representing at the time essentially fired him.
-Tyson has been known for his mistreatment of women, Van Gogh was known to be taken advantage of by women.
-Tyson threatened to eat his opponents children, whilst Van Gogh...
-Finally.. Tyson removed ears with the intention to harm, whilst Van Gogh removed his own ear with the intention of reconciliation.
All in all, the only thing they have in common apart for being considered one of the best in their respective fields, is that they both seem to share some 'toys in the attic'... Bobby Fisher, anyone?.. John Nash?
Perhaps it's correlation rather than causation, but there seems to be a pattern here. 👀
Woop woop! The vid I didnt know I needed! Would looooooooove to see a Tyson fury analysis also super intriguing guy! Keep up the excellent work doc
Interestingly Bi Polar TOO
Tyson was given way too many chances and it's disgusting the way people not only ignore and downplay his crimes, but even hold him up as a hero. Says so much about our country.
Probably the same reason why people like you forget about the crimes of communism (100,000,000 died) but find it acceptable to have a username like yours?
Your evidence-based understanding of the benefits and harms of psychedelics requires significant attention. Perhaps you could devote an episode to the new research on addiction, depression, ptsd, etc.
I think people that people overlook Tyson's criminal behaviour, awful money management and abusive outbursts (over the years) due to his incredible athleticism in the ring and how dangerous he was. When people say they "respect" him, they are respecting Iron Mike the champion boxer and how amazing he actually was at winning fights quick and seemingly easily. He has never been any kind of moral paragon or pillar of virtue, but he doesn't exalt himself as such. He is a fighter.
Wild guess here - Joe Rogan's not gonna have Dr. Grande on any time soon.
I'd really like that to happen though.
@@MartinJohnZ YES
Love that lemonade stand analogy, lol... 😏👌
I'm still waiting for the Adam Lanza video! I will hound you until it appears!!
I know Mike for ~20 years. He is the nicest warm hearted person you can ever meet. He was my neighbor in Vegas.
Mike is doing well now because he has a great wife.
Mike can’t go it alone in life. When Cus died and Don King & Co came along that was the end of Mike until 2009.
Great video Dr
Dr. Grande killed it with that lemonade analogy 🔥
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I've been a subscriber for a couple of months now, watching almost all of your videos. I have a huge interest in psychology, especially when it comes to "studying" the mind of serial killers, murderers, cult leaders and pyramid schemes in general. It fascinates me how people can be brainwashed and manipulated into believing and worshipping the most bizarre things..
..And when it comes to murderers, my fascination is based off the big question "WHY?". Why does some people with a traumatic childhood end up taking lives, while others with very similar backgrounds become good people who couldn't hurt a fly?
I enjoy your dry humor as well, it makes these dark subjects a little easier to listen to. I think it's a good thing you're not super detailed about these heinous acts. The "why?" is a lot more interesting than the "how?".
Although I really do enjoy your content, I gotta admit that I love falling asleep to your videos. It might not be the best subjects to listen to while falling asleep, but there's just something about your voice that relaxes me. Yup! I might just be another case for you to solve, right here :'D.
Jokes aside though, please do one with Peter Madsen, the Danish "rocket science" guy who killed Kim Wall, the Swedish journalist.
Update! This madman escaped prison! He was able to hold a female psychologist hostage by using a "gun like" object, and then he proceeded to wear a fake bomb belt. This was all over the news yesterday. They did get him though. You should really do an analysis about this now that it's fresh again. I can't wait to hear your dry humor jokes on this dude!
A video on Michael Jordan, Dr Grande. Pretty please with sugar on top!
I love Dr. Grande but I disagree with him saying Tyson was bad for boxing. He was literally the most famous boxer of the last 35 years, and the most famous since Ali. His early career captured the minds of the nation, and then the world. He drew millions and millions of eyes to boxing that would never have watched the sport otherwise. He inspired generations of boxers and MMA fighters to come. Despite his transgressions, he is still beloved today. The truth is he was good and bad for boxing, but more good then bad imo.
"Tyson was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon." AKA...his fists!
That's actually true.
For others it could be the lack of mental clarity.
His adopting father did treat him into a champion.
LMAO!
Dear Dr. Grande:
It would be very interesting to know what you think about psychedelic drugs like peyote, ayahuasca, magic mushrooms, LSD, and buffo
This was a really good one. Especially liked the anti-hero bit at the end, it was a great way to explain the Mike Tyson phenomenon.
I like these general takes on celebrities. Very interesting. Thanks for posting.
Psychedelics saved my life when I was 20 I did shrooms an woke up a new person with a much better an clearer outlook on my life
I only did it once after that an it was ok but that first time actually changed my life
Druggie.
I was hoping you'd touch on Mike's comments about Cus D'Amato. I found this part of the conversation with Joe Rogan particularly fascinating. Mike Tyson made several references to D'Amato as someone who would be locked away from society today and of mind games (psychological abuse?). Perhaps a topic for another video. Thanks Dr Grande, always appreciate your effort and time.
You made some excellent reflections at the end. I agree with you, he is certainly an antihero.
Thank you for all you hard work Dr. Grande, I hope you can squeeze in some time for relaxation and leisure in between your many projects. Please know that your efforts are always much appreciated.❤️
Regarding him attacking people, I used to work at a Rap music club in Manhattan in 1997-99. Mike Tyson would come in very often and every time he was there people would try to pick fights with him. It never was a big person or a person that looked like a fighter. It was always a skinny person that appeared to want to get hit so they could get a payout. The bouncers (we always had 30 to 40 bouncers on Rap nights and 4-6 on regular nights) would always form a circle around Mike, pull him to the side or out the front door and spend what seemed like hours talking sense to him. He would get so angry and worked up but never actually hit someone. They would eventually convince him that the person only wanted him to hit them so they could get money. The thing is this happened every single time he came in and he always had to be talked down from his rage. Could you imagine if everywhere you went someone would start a fight with you just because you are rich and will have to pay them?
'Mike Tyson Mysteries' it's hilarious, he does seem to have the ability to laugh at himself and seems to want to get a handle on his demons.
I can promise you one thing, the new Mike Tyson can listen to this analysis till the end without getting angry.
What makes you so certain?? 🥱😂
"While in prison, he converted to Islam and adopted the Muslim name Malik Abdul Aziz"
The entire purpose of an anti-hero and their constant popularity is because us as a society can associate ourselves within that character to a certain degree. Therefore we feel empathy and sometimes even sympathy for such person that we begin to advocate for them because we feel as though we advocate for ourselves. The complicated nature of these characters and the fact that they are not always good, not always bad, and most often confused describes what most people can feel today. Just my opinion though.
Great video as always it would be interesting to see a video about Susan Atkins or other Manson family members🧐
It wasn't Tyson who originally ruined the sportsmanship. It was Mohammed Ali. People loved it. Tyson just took it seriously. He meant it.
Yes Tyson is popularity is mostly because he is the anti hero. He reminds us "normal" people. That are both good and bad people at times. That were just humans nothing nore nothing left.
And being a person who also afflicted with bipolar and who also had a not great up bringing in life. I can relate so much of what he personally went through to my own life while living with this illness. U really don't fully understand this illness unless you've come full circle. And Tyson my friend has come full circle. To the person he always wished he could be. Happy, just happy about the little things in life. Make life so much more worth living then all that other stuff.
When you see the 'old' Tyson footage / interviews, Mike was actually a bright and surprisingly sensitive young man, often so anxious before fight he was physically ill. The was a marked decline in his behavior after he lost father figure Cus D'Amato in 85. Tyson has been a total asshole, that's a fact, but he reinvigorated boxing at a a time the heavyweight division was little more than old men and slobs shuffling around the ring. Tyson wasn't just a knock em out one trick pony, he was a highly skilled boxer with formidable talent. At 5'11", he was also substantially smaller than most of his opponents, most hevyweights being around 6'3" and up. He's a unstable violent prick, but hey, nice guys finish last.
I have to laugh however every time I hear boxing described as the 'sweet science'. Whilst you could describe it almost as a balletic art of evasion and brutal game of strategy, in reality, its more or less two people inflicting CTE on on another for the entertainment of the audience. Boxing has always been a dirty game with many connections to the criminal underworld pulling the strings, and in the end, its the fighters who get used up and discarded.
Well said about the behavior of enablers.
Well said
As a boxing aficionado and humble practitioner, I can only commend your knowledge of the noble art. I’d love to hear your in-depth on the relationship between Cus D’Amato and Tyson, he’s adamant to this day that Cus has been the only person who really cared for him, although I’m not too sure that’s really the case... maybe a Cus d’Amato special is in order, doc?
Dr Grande,
Like some other comments, your opinion on psychedelics would be interesting .
I am glad to see Dr. Grande provide an unvarnished analysis of Mike Tyson.
Could you please do David Goggins hes a very interesting character.
One thing is for sure - Goggins won't give a f**k. Stay hard!
I’m surprised that you didn’t touch on the topic of TBI in this video. I would be interested in hearing you discuss common personality changes associated with TBI in the context of various sports figures (including Tyson), and perhaps some of the trauma related autopsy findings on late sports celebrities.
HOLY SHITBALLS!!! Three of my interests coinciding; Dr. Grande, Mike Tyson and Joe Rogan. The Trifecta is real. All bow to the Trifecta.
The term the sweet science was reintroduced by Sugar Ray Robinson (the perfectly skilled boxer). Mike Tyson had technicality, athletic abilities were only the half of it. His agression did not add to his ability, but his frame and natural abilities allowed him to be the perfect candidate for Cus D'amato's peakaboo style. Cus who already trained and coached the youngest heavyweight champ had a prospect handed to him towards the end of his life seemingly built for the style of boxing D'amato had created and perfected. Combined with the fact that Cus had more drive to get one last champion quickly because of his age he was more desperate to have Tyson become a champion and not to get discouraged and quit. Cus noticed that Tyson had trust issues and low self esteem so to make sure he wouldn't lose his drive, Cus developed an ego into Tyson to give him his persona of using anger and fear as mental weapons against other fighters. This is what I have picked up on Tyson that is very important to take into consideration aswell.
Dr Grande, have you ever taken psychedelics?
I wish you would have spoken more about how he has turned his life around for the better in many different ways. I feel that the exclusion of this to be an extreme disservice to your analysis.
A boxing match is a regulated sport. If a boxer deviates from the regs, as Tyson did at times, he gets tossed out. Still, I would never have gotten in the ring with him even if I thought he would play by the rules. No way.
Hey, Doc. I was wondering if you could do Tyson Fury -- he's the current heavy weight champion in boxing. He had suicidal idealization and substance use issues. He has been very candid in interviews. I think he may have bi-polar, but its tough to know. It would be great to see your take on someone with that personality.
He said the only time he felt good was when he was hurting someone. I though he was a sociopath.
He’s a thug.
Can you do a video on what you think about shows like Maury, Jerry Springer, etc? They’re very entertaining, but I suspect they might be pretty damaging to the people on the shows.
You suspect bro? LOL. I am too interested in Dr. Grande’s take whilst have read a lot of social psychology articles on the subject.
Do Jimi Hendrix, please.
I just came from watching his Hendrix video
Whether his aggression served boxing well or not, I feel Tyson was speaking his truth about such things as how knock outs made him feel more angry and the over the top aggression that plagued him all throughout his younger years.
As Tyson was a man of extraordinary talent his fans viewed him as a demigod. His "superhuman" status may be the reason others minimized or overlooked his egregious behaviour outside the ring. It may also be an indicator of moral decay resulting in his fans having lower expectations in terms of his behaviour and conduct. I tend to agree that Tyson's fighting style had a negative impact on the sport in in terms of the level brutality and agression. As always, thanks for another insightful and interesting analysis!
I spit my drink out at the Tyson-Wall Street money management line. 🤣
Dr Grande, a scientifically informed look at benefits and risks of various psychedelic substances would be of great help. People really seem polarized about that topic but there should be one definitive truth. Risks are evident but what really are the benefits?
I think he should weigh in on the data over this subject. My understanding is that at over 35+-year-old (being very conservative, probably over 25+ hardly any cases) you are extremely unlikely to develop the first psychotic episode, for any reason. And Grande didn't mention Tyson having psychotic episodes before, so, these drugs could hardly trigger the first one But I would really know the data on this. So for Tyson at his age it would be incredible unlikely to trigger anything bad, and probably more good than bad.
I may have commented on this already but I believe Tyson to be a changed man in many ways. He's definetely a lot humbler and doesn't make the over the top comments in the manner he used to. IMHO
I went to a mike Tyson match once at the Palace of Auburn Hills near Detroit. He fought Andrew Golota I think. The fight was stopped and the crowd started fighting. They escorted the fighters outta the ring. That was intense. You are right he had the ability to fight but he lacked that showmanship. Good video!!
Good video, i could listen to you talk all day. So calming and full of information.
"but is it really because they have good lemonade?"- dr. todd grande
Hey Doc, can you do a full episode on psychedelics? It’s hard to find info on the risks etc. - there’s so much info from people who’ve had positive experiences. My friend stopped me from going off to do ayahuasca. I’d been convinced by various celebrity endorsers that it was the answer to mental health problems. So glad my friend stopped me. I could have worsened my mental state. Would be great to hear your in-depth opinion on this topic.
Dr Grande I loved your analysis of this situation but personally I can't stand Mike Tyson he seem to get away with so much he should have spent more time in jail Thanks Dr Grande that's just my opinion
Dr Grande truly does great studies of each
Cotton Tails why does everyone get out in half time? That doesn’t mean they are reformed or
How to do things different
“… neighborhoods known for elevated levels of criminality… The way you phrase things is awesome, Dr. Grande. I would have said “ bad neighborhood” but you’re more nuanced & discreet. 🙂
Wait wait wait, he was CONVICTED of rape? And it seems like everyone kinda forgot about it, hell I never knew! How did that not end his career???
Everyone knows about it, but it's likely he didnt rape that woman from what I've heard.
My thoughts exactly!! Convictions rates are usually low so for him to be convicted is significant. If it's true, I have zero respect for him.
I’m also really disturbed by how much that is overlooked. People are mentioning how in the last few years he’s made a lot of changes personality wise for the better, I want to know what he has to say about his conviction. If it is true I don’t understand how people can speak highly of him. It is an unforgivable act.
If the most popular boxer in the world were to be even accused of rape in today's Me Too movement, it would ruin his career for the foreseeable future. It is insane that Mike was able to bounce right back after serving time in prison for raping a young woman.
For it is believed that Mike never actually did it.
I wish someday you do a video about Flordelis, she’s a preacher in Brasil that just have been charge with murder of her own son, that is also her husband. This story definitely deserves a Netflix special