problem is before they can implement that they need to fix the random low level fatal error pc players are getting that causes the game to crash randomly on some stages.
@@thefilth7368it’s seemingly random, but sometimes it’s happened to me 3+ times in one session, thought it was an AMD graphics card issue but after further research it just kinda happens… I have an RTX 6950 so it should be able to handle games like tekken
Tbh getting to purple rank in tk7 feels worth my skill...but in tk8 it just feels too cheap or too short of an effort to take. I kinda miss tk7 though there are less bs and more fundamentals and knowledge check than in tk8
@@nabedesu7708 while i love Tekken 8 too, i’m not that big of a fan of the combination of the heat system and rage arts. Sometimes losing a match from almost full health because my opponents goes super defensive and just Waits for me to move my toe and deletes my hp bar with these kinda makes me feel like “did you really deserve that win though?”. Which is a garbage feeling because obviously he just used the tools the game gives to him, but it feels like they went a bit too hard on the comeback mechanics.
@@royce536 Nope its because tekken 8 has a lot more casual players playing the game who dont sweat all day. Tekken 7 at the end of its cycle of its life was pure sweatlords through and through.
I agree. I was able to hit fujin on steve but I have been playing for quite some time. It is definitely getting hard now but thats just how it is. I hit fujin in tekken 7 with geese but he was a cracked character meanwhile my steve only ever got to divine ruler. Your character can carry you really hard in this game so keep that in mind. A fujin paul will be extremely different than a fujin devil jin as there is way more character execution and expression that is possible. you dont even need 60% win rate to be in the top 4% of players think about that..
A lot of people were able to hit that rank within a month. Compared to the average person it’s a high rank, but not to those who have put a lot of time into the game.
Fujin with victor will be different to someone who gets fujin with Bryan, Kazuya, Steve, Jin, Reina etc I would agree that there are definitely some boosted players right now sort of like lei wulong in tekken 7.
I've been playing since Tekken 3 but I reached Fujin on Tekken 8. Though I agree with what you said, in Tekken 7 getting out of yellow ranks was pure torture during the early days. I've noticed that in the blue ranks you'll either play against really good players, players carried by easier characters, or pluggers/rage quitters who don't belong there.
Facts on all points. Yellow and orange ranks was a nightmare been playing since TT3/TT1 and reaching red in Tekken 7 was respectable reached the blue ranks in T7 maining Heihachi a tough character to reach high ranks with and I'm almost at fujin in TK8 with Kuma. I think its safe to say people got better in addition to everything you said but remember in early tekken 7 it was dominated by smurfs all the way from blue to red. The player pool has expanded too with alot more casuals.
@@waize-1383 yea man, and bro even though I've been a Jin main since day 1 I still really miss playing Heihachi; I absolutely love Tekken 8 but not having Heihachi for the first time is sad. I still remember the shitshow that was Tag 2 online, it was dominated by double capos doing the most ridiculous shit in green ranks. But you're right, in Tekken 8 I feel like reaching Fujin is a combination of the ranked mode being a little more forgiving with demotions and the process of just getting better at the game (it also helps that the replay mode is really good for learning how to play against characters you're having trouble with).
I feel like it is also easier to rank up in this tekken cause there's such a huge influx of newer players. Not saying you didn't earn your way up there to Fujin but I feel like having more newcomers and less die hard and veteran tekken players make ranking up that much easier.
@@AcerAz115 oh for sure, I just got to Kishin and blue ranks kinda feel all over the place. There'll be many players who are actually insane at the game, and then there will be others who abuse very easy characters and don't have great fundamentals/movement. Up until purple ranks the game felt very easy and you can tell who's a newcomer and who's a long time player. To add on to your point, I also think that the rank system is a bit weird, sometimes I'll win 300-500 points with a win, and other times I'll either get 1000 points or lose 1000 points, it's super weird but I heard that streaks increase your points.
@angryassyrian5627 yah def i would say i play one of the easier characters, ive been maining devil jin since T5 and he is pretty broken in T8 lol but his 'kit' only carried me to garyu. After that i really had to learn the character more in depth. And i do think having win streaks increase your points however idk how they determine losing points i have never lost more than 400 points yet from losing. But have gained about 1000 from winning.
I'm Flame Ruler right now and the biggest jump I've seen in skill has been Red -> Purple. Before Red ranks is tons of spam and gimmicks. In Red, people generally seem to have a grasp on their characters, but almost no matchup knowledge. And now in Purple I'm finally playing people who know some matchups, and can hold back on their D-pad and punish correctly. I can still get away with cheese sometimes, but even then most Purples adapt during the match. I reckon Blue is where I'll plateau until I lab more characters.
As a red rank myself (Garyu) I can perfectly identify as someone who fits in that description. I've learned (more or less) how my character works, but I still fail to know when and how to punish my opponents so I lose lots of opportunities to deal damage and win matches.
Checks out. Im on Garyu with steve i know the character well and how to use him effectively. But my matchup knowledge and defense/Punishment is pretty weak against the majority of other characters.
I can see that sometimes. But i often also run into players in Garyu who knows exactly how to counter me and can constantly block my lows or duck under my highs
@@Zenress I guess that's people who are currently climbing ranks and are on their path to higher ones. When I started playing I also met people like that in the lowest ranks.
I'm Garyu and I'm pretty happy with having made it this far in about a week. This is the first Tekken where I learn to do something besides b3 into combo with Asuka so I'm not expecting wonders here. Still, I'm getting better and I see many of the areas where I need improvement. Still gotta get a better grasp on my range, I still panic and try to press the win button sometimes instead of focusing on countering a playstyle, my breaks are slow, and yeah obviously I'm getting killed by knowledge checks but ey...whatever...it's fun here and I plan to make it to Shinryu today.
I believe Reds are equivalent to the Platinum Rank in SF6. You arent at the highest, but you have made it significantly further than a lot of players. Its also where shit gets real, and making it past those ranks into the purples is where you get to the actually skillful players.
if we thalk tekken that its probely high bleu these players will punish do massive combos now strings and are busy with frame data and being plus and can react to stupid shit like a sneak edge i am purple now with 3 char and they are not that good even i am still bad no corecht punish and eated a snake edge not so long ago from a law
Not currently, demotion not being a thing until yellow makes current red ranks equivalent to green ranks. However due to being less ranks currently, higher ranks are more mixed like later purple and blue being kinda the same
right now, most professionals are playing around Fujin to Kishin with their secondary characters. getting through that means you can encounter professionals and beat them.
I’m currently sitting in purple ranks with devil jin and man I’m having a blast! I’m at the point where matchup knowledge is paramount even though my fundamentals are getting better, it’s gonna take a lot of time to learn some of these characters. I’m super happy with how far I’ve come given this is my first tekken game playing against other people, and I hope to get to blue eventually with a Mishima!
Rank is definitely interesting this time around. Back in T7 when I first started I was able to get to high orange very fast with Fahk but I felt like he carried me. So I switched to Armor King and it took me wayyyy longer to get to red and Iwas JUST BARELY on the Purple line before I stopped playing. Fast forward to T8 I was able to get to Mighty ruler literally week 2 with Lars. Again I felt carried (CAUSE I DEFO WAS) so I found Leroy. Taking me way longer to understand Leroy but I have surpassed my Lars and I dont feel carried I am proud of that FOR ME personally I've never made it to this rank in T7. Trying to get to at least Tekken King cause it will look good on me. LMAOOO
I got to warrior rank with kunimitsu in tekken 7 a few days before I got tekken 8. In tekken 8 I main Jun and the highest rank I got is eliminator. I’m in destroyer right now because every time I get eliminator I get bounced back by red rank players. I feel like orange rank is where I will reside till I improve my fundamentals and Punishment knowledge on certain matchups. Eventually I’ll master the punishments and then I’ll sky rocket my ranks. But for right now I’m where I need to be.
I'm currently in the Red Ranks (specifically Tenryu atm) but imo they way I would consider skill level is this: Green/Yellow - Ok (Somewhat new and their fundamentals typically aren't that polished nor execution) Orange/Red - Intermediate (Definitely solid and good at the game, but not the best nor the worst regarding with their fundamentals and execution) Purple/Blue - Really good at the game Beyond that is amazing
I feel you bro it took me 6 months to get to warrior in tekken 7 which felt really wrong cuz i know of a dude who reached tekken god in a year so i felt like i was behind
In my opinion: Beginner: - Late Yellow Ranks Intermediate: Vanquisher - Mighty Ruler High Level: Flame Ruler - Bushin Professional Tournament Players/Cheaters: Tekken King and beyond
I think getting to purple itself is something worth being proud about (I'd say it's the 'above average' rank at least) but yeah, T7 was DEFINITELY much harder to get to. I think by the end of it I had barely gotten to red. And, to be fair, the original ranking system was pretty asinine with how it worked. Plus I think forcing people to only do best of 3's helps a lot of ranks because I know for a fact instead of taking an L and leaving when I should I used to rematch until I was satisfied lmao
Deathmatching was lit tho! But yeah I remember when you had to be pretty nasty to get to Mighty Ruler. Not tryna say it isn't something to be proud of now, but it absolutely used to be much more difficult.
I’d say fujin could still be considered high-Intermediate, but After Bushin that’s advanced play. Then from advanced you have semi-pro to Pro players etc…
Tbh I should be tekken king rank but the real I'm not there is due to how the rank system works, the plugging not only do I not get victory points but I also lose my streak and is reset to 0 which when you get to 3 win streak you get bonus points so I get robbed even more which is so frustrating. I do take pride on my channel of being a lili main and a zafina at my 2nd in my command. Just sucks why they haven't fixed the plugging issue :(
I made it to Flame Ruler with Azucena. I definitely see the difference between Purple & Red. Now I’m at the point where I’m getting beat by matchup knowledge.
I think it’s worth noting that there are only three ranks per color in the majority of ranks as opposed to four ranks per color like previous Tekkens. I also believe that Tekken ranks can be summed up as pre Tekken 7 season 2 and post Tekken 7 season 2. If you played T6, Tag 2, and T7 season 1, orange was decent and red was really good. After T7 season 2, blue was the new red rank. On the one hand, the ranking system pre T7 season 2 was a lot more brutal and unforgiving which made it more stressful to play ranked. On the other hand, T7 post season 2 makes it more enjoyable to play ranked (especially for lower ranked players). For Tekken 8, I think that red rank is decent and purple is where people start to really establish a game plan. Blue rank is where people start to play decent Tekken, and gold-purple is where people have tighter gameplay, frame traps, whiff punishing, and you start to see some fundamentals. Anything above that is either extremely solid or extremely aggressive players. I just made it to Tekken King and I’m starting to get some resistance in my matches. I think I’m good at being in gold-purple for now, but I might hop back in soon and try for Tekken God.
I feel people not giving red ranks enough credit, I’m learning real tekken and it’s been a grind getting to shinryu and I’m getting my way to tenryu, red ranks have some REAL players, I’ve played mighty rulers and even fujin’s much much worst than people I’ve seen in tenryu. Either way, be proud of where you are now and strive to keep getting better
Completely agree with you, I've been fighting for my life in red as a Reina main! This is the first Tekken game I've taken seriously and getting to red by improving my fundamentals was quite the task 😅. I think these opinions are coming from people with legacy Tekken skills so their view of intermediate would be different from someone looking on the outside
Would be interesting to see an updated info graphic. I was about to hit garyu when I first saw this and I'm now Tekken king. I wonder if the percentages would be different now.
I only recently got garyu with lee im new to tekken but at the same time im used to the fgc downplaying any rank that isnt like the top ranks,im proud of how far i came as a new player. Dont let anyone take your achievements from you ☺️ AT THE SAME TIME IF YOU CHERRY PICKED/ONE AND DONED YOJR WAY TO THE TOP HOW MUCH DOES THAT RANK REALLY MATTER
bro it would be awesome to see you at a tournament in the future i heard Lil Majin is willing to train AfroSenju it would be fun to see you with Majin as well talking about tekken
As someone who is flame ruler I would honestly say that orange is a good rank for new comers or casual players but if you put hours into Tekken then purple and blue is a different ball game. The skill checks and match up knowledge is insane but you'll always get some who are in high ranks who aren't as strong as there rank and those is red or even orange who have amazing combos and execution but dont really study frame data.
I’m embarrassed to admit that I’m hard stuck in the orange ranks at the moment….😕 I have this incredible ability to get the opponent to near death but to let them come back and beat me. I need to count how many fights went exactly like that because I swear it’s at least 100.
Had that problem too. But for me I basically just had to made myself learn how to keep it simple and balance having fun and being competitive. It also helps to have short term memory with your frustrations
I’m current at Fujin and I’ll give you some tips. When you find yourself with a huge life lead don’t be afraid to keep pressure on your opponent to close the round. Preferably, learn your character’s frame traps and quick mids like df1 so you can force your opponent to make a mistake. Using something too obvious like constant lows or unsafe moves will give your opponent an opportunity to make a comeback. Also, incorporate throws as best you can. Around your rank most players struggle breaking throws especially command throws.
@@anima-xii thanks. But honestly I’m surprised by amount of players that can tech throws almost every time. But I get a few throws off when I can. Still working on some other stuff. I’ll get there one day
@@Urlastnerve Yea some folks can break them while others are pretty bad it. it helps to mix up normal throws and command throws to trick people. Keep working hard and you'll do just fine. Find your weaknesses and conquer them.
I think reaching higher ranks was a lot easier when the game first came out. Skill level around orange/red is definitely getting higher and honestly there are a lot of players that simply do not belong there. Played one earlier that was still using easy inputs.
You mentioned the difference in the rank system in T7 and T8 and its true green to yellow was a hassle in T7 and getting out of orange was hell (I got gate kept out of red 6 times early in t7 lifespan and near the end) and in T8 I'm currently shinryu near my promo game to tenryuu without a lot of issues being gate kepted the demotion and promotion thing makes iit so you keep your rank, but the points protection till yellow makes me think we need a another set of ranks somewhere between orange to mighty ruler to filter out more players if you want a more equal/fair games once the cheaters and pluggers are gone
Ur right about ranks not meaning everything. Higher ranks are easier to get to depending on ur character. Alisa and Victor are gonna have a much easier time getting to purple ranks than characters like Bryan or kazuya. A kazuya at red ranks is almost guaranteed to be better as playing “real tekken” than a law etc
I would say that the region you are playing in also play a significant role. Currently last red rank playing in Japan/Korea server, it take more time than I thought for me to get to violet. I was not new to tekken but its only the second one since T5 that im starting to play seriously. And before that I have long experience of 20+years as a competitor/tournament player in Soulcalibur series. So based on my experience playing t8 and my past in Vs figting at high level, I feel that in Jp/Ko server Red is intermediate, Violet are advanced level, blue is expert, above is master and +. When I watched streams of people doing rank in US I am very surprised about the lower skill level of players when comparing to here for same rank. But again its my personal feeling.
Yeah Asia region is hard. Tons of players who were high ranks in T7 haven't yet climbed up. Middle East, Asia 1 players has higher probability of players who haven't climbed up yet. Asia 2 is mixed bag atm. Based on players I have played. It's either scrubs Or pros. Not sure about JO/KO, but I am sure they are comparable or above Asia 2.
Have you played other regions other than Asia? My current impression with the Asian region, coming from Asia 3, is that Japan players most of the time don't want to match anyone other than their region, KR is same with JP but if they match, they rage quits after 1 loss (playable 100 ping), Asia 2 (Thai, Malaysia) they match me most of the time even while losing (they have a lot of heart). Asia 3 has a lot of wifi players 😂
@@mkt-7 On Lounges and in T7, yeah. Here is my opinion on them. If you are fighting American or European Players, it depends on how much matchup knowledge you have about their character. They tend to check more than Asian players barring maybe Middle East players or Asia 1 players who would abuse stuff as much as possible(as in stuff you can't deal with, moves which work on bad connection etc) but they can also play fundamental Tekken just fine and also know when to disrespect frames. Which is lacking in European or American players I have fought so far. Anyways for T7 personally I felt like their Red rank is more like Yellow ranks in Asia. Based on tournament matches I fought with them. Specifically for europe region. Hell even had one of Lucky Chloe players who reached TGP by spamming Cali roll when it is consistently punished or sidestepped at Orange ranks in Asia server. And couple of Mighty Ruler Alisa's in Europen region who got there just by spamming b3+4, 3+4 which would get you killed in like Orange to Red ranks in Asia(being generous to European region). As for Asian players. Generally I too find Asia 2 players to be nicest in terms of manners. Asia 1 and Asia 2 players rematch until you are done. Korea or Japan, they only rematch if you win against them(Japanese do rematch if they feel pressured more than Koreans.) But if you lose they generally won't give you chance to adapt to them. Asia 3? Haven't faced many of them yet. Middle East? They are generally laggy even with 5 bars and would abuse lag only setups, so are terrible to fight against. And they are pretty toxic as well in general. Asia 1 and Middle East players also tend to smurf at low ranks compared to other Asian regions.
@ragnarok7452 That's pretty interesting. Maybe the difference in skill is with intermediate ranks with the EU, NA server. But to be fair with them, they have some of the best tournament players too (anakin, joka etc) Asia 3 btw is Philippines and taiwan
@@mkt-7 Yeah, I think it mostly applies at general player levels. At high level I think it is more or less representative of the individual than the group.
I’m almost in the red rank. I think that’s where I’m going to have to most trouble. My match up knowledge is a little weak. Some characters I just don’t have a clue about. Luckily T8 has a lot of ways to study different characters so you can develop strategies and get overall better at the game.
I made it to red rank and it’s the obstacle a lot of people have to get past if they are serious about getting better at the game. There’s good players and people who, like you said, were able to beat others who weren’t as good. It’s a grind but it’s definitely rewarding.
Tekken Ranks for a “siege” players Light blue - copper Green - bronze Yellow -silver Orange -low gold Red - Mid to high Gold Purple -Platinum Blues -Emerald 2nd purples- Low Diamond Tekken Lord - Mid Diamond Tekken god sup -high diamond God of destruction -Champ
I think it’s also important to consider your region. The difficulty to get to Bushin above in Asia is way difficult than it is in the west. Had a similar experience with SF6. Stuck hard at 1600 in Asia, but climbed easily to 1750+MR in the US during a vacation
Good vid. I feel like the Tekken 7 system was better in terms of demotions on every rank and having to play a couple of matches as a punishment to get to the rank you fell from, but not in terms of farming point on people on rematches. I once found a guy like 10 ranks higher than me and we were constantly clicking rematch after we went back and forth with winning and I was winning some nice point every time (reduced by each mach) while he was winning only 50 points for the fight (I know how many since I've had the exact situation with a "weaker" player), and I couldn't get past vanquisher I believe. Now I sat down with my already acquired skills and improving with each match I barely lost games and in 1-2 hours I got myself warrior (after being placed in Brawler after evaluation of my skills). No demotion is nice, but not challenging. Skill evaluation is nice, but not as rewarding. And yet somehow the experience is far less tilting and enjoyable. Looking forward to reaching as high as I can with my Devil Jin.
This is my first tekken game that I’ve actually put real time into and also the first fighting game that has really kept my attention and motivation. I wonder why it is.
T8 is my first ever Tekken game, and I managed to get to Garyu, so I'd say "average" is probably accurate. I can absolutely pop off, but I still have no idea what I'm doing in some situations.
I think that there is just more tools for people to learn the actual game and how to play it than ever before. Previous generations of players are just trying to diminish the peoples skill just because they did not have the acccess to these learning tools and had a harder time learning the game than people of today in my humble opinion.
Yeah, finally implementing frame data in game (about time lol) helped level the situation. In tekken 7 I was beaten many times because I didn't know wtf happened and labbing was longer and way more tedious than needed, which gave legacy players and even higher ground than they already have by playing a game where your main would barely vary from game to game
T7 Ryujin here (one rank before emperor), currently Bushin atm (one rank before Tekken King). Fujin and above feel almost the same as it did in T7. Like Fujin and Raijin are purple ranks in T7 and Kishin and Bushin are the new Fujin and Raijin. Second chance promotions in this game really inflates rank. I hit a hard ceiling at high blue ranks in T7. I feel like I haven’t hit that ceiling yet at Bushin. I think Tekken God will be my hard ceiling for me. Maybe supreme since you do get second chance at demotions.
This is my first tekken, but I used to play Soul Calibur, so I have a little bit of fighting game experience. My main Nina is at eliminator right now, and im probably about to hit ganryu here soon. I'm pretty stoked about that as a first-time player.
I don’t have any experience with Tekken 7, but I feel that since Tekken 8 is selling so well and has such a large influx of new players, people are able to climb the ranked ladders much easier since there’s a wide variety of skill levels in most ranks currently. Loving my time with this game as my first Tekken.
In rank my hearts beating too strong during fights. i win almost all the time.but i play more quick match to stay away from stress. but even quick match is very stressfull 😅😢
@@draken4671Since he doesn't want to help you, i will do as a Hwoarang Main at Mighty Ruler. For combos you just have to watch combo guides and learn the a bit harder combos of him and beside that you should also watch other guides of him like about pressure and mix ups. I recommend the guides of Swanky Gamez. Learning match ups and movement is very important as well.
@@draken4671Since he doesn't want to help you, i will do as a Hwoarang Main at Mighty Ruler. For better combos, you just have to watch combo guides of him and learning the harder ones for more damage. Beside that you should also watch guides about his pressure and mix ups, i recommend the guides of Swanky Gamez. But u should also practice match ups and movement if you want to get higher in ranked.
Had a break from playing tekken for 7 years then jumped on and made it to battle ruler I was pretty impressed with myself considering I had to learn all the mechanics again plus the new tekken 8 stuff.
My first Tekken playing properly (I used to played extremely casually and mashing from T3 to T5) and I'm pretty proud to be in Garyu. Definitely stuck there now though
i’ve been playing tekken for years but never consistently. tekken 8 has made me want to play because it’s a bit easier for me to learn inputs. i will say as i’ve been climbing there are definitely the people who deserve rank and those who just spam one move to get one combo then heat and rage art. i never one and done with someone unless their connection is really bad
Its also a little too early to determine the real value of these ranks. Maybe blue and up you can make a case for, but you can cheese your way into purple ranks with pure knowledge checks. Once we have a little more time with the game and a few more corrections down the line, these ranks will start making more sense.
1:05 I am firm beliver of that myself Lotus tbh the only reason I have a rank with my character is because unlike in Tekken 7 where you can go straight online this game you had to face a bot and it just gave you a rank from the jump so I'm a Strategist with Lee cuz of that. I used to play rank around Street Fighter 4, Street Fighter X Tekken, Tekken 6, Marvel Vs Capcom 3 etc but something I learned over the years playing is that ranked doesnt really mean nothing tbh. Not saying people shouldn't be proud of where there at or feel like they actually progressed but A LOT of players only care about getting rank as opposed to getting better and actually learning the characters and matchups. Hell watching my homies/homegirls play Tekken I see people constantly plugging or one and doneing just to get to a rank where they want to get to. And that's why I choose not to play ranked myself I'm the type of player where I want to really learn the mechanics of the game, characters, matchups, so I just choose to play quick match and my homies who are really good in the game. I feel once players learn to play to learn as opposed to play to win that's when fighting games become a whole lot funner imo.
I am in Kishin, Its new start of tekken for me. Need to master more characters, master more frame data, frame traps, flowcharts, for me Its place where REAL tekken starts... Hard work on my way, my target is to get alteast tekken god, Ive would be really happy after that
That's crazy, I don't pay any attention and for some reason this motivates me. Tbh I am a VF player actually and can't wait for VF6 and I'm playing Tekken to get ready for the eventual return. This is about the last 3d fighter and is my least fav out of VF SC and Tekken. This game has me excited for the next level of 3d fighters so I am going to be an actual tryhard.
It is pretty funny how there are a lot of salty mfs in red rank just like in T7. Once I got red the first time in T8, all the plugs, ki charges, and no rematches started crawling outta the woodwork 😂
I was in the yellow ranks in T7, but I didn't play online that much. My friends were in Purple and God and I played with them a lot. Now im a Shinryu in T8. Still consider myself pretty casual. I feel like ranked was better before but that's just my personal opinion. Because of the way its structured to encourage players more, what we're seeing is a large mix of players. Red-Purple ranks are a big mix of average casuals and really good players that are probably playing on their secondary character. Before, these players were more spread out.
I’m Garyu, played a bit T7 at release, I couldn’t make it past yellow ranks, playing irregularly the first year of release. Tuning into ranked in T8 has been difficult. I’m trying to play regularly. So much offense and I have no idea how many strings work. I know some combos and frame traps. Learning KBD and proper sidestepping. Very hard to improve honestly. It feels extremely hard to surpass this rank for me. I make too many mistakes, I feel very noob. Hopefully I can slowly improve through dedication and practice. I’m having a lot of fun. GL everyone
I made it to Ryujin in T7. I'm a Mighty Ruler for 2 characters currently. I'd say the competition is strong right now in Tekken, with everyone and we're only a month in.
I've noticed a lot of new players have set their goal to get red ranks "Garyu". There is nothing wrong with that btw. However as a result I've been seeing heaps of Garyu players who have managed to scrape there way there using some hyper aggressive/cheesy flow charts that work on lower level players. But they don't know how to do simple things like how to get out of jab pressure. I've had a few times where I literally just jabbed, DF 1, and low poke Garyu players to death, and they have no idea how to deal with it properly. If your a new player who has just hit red ranks, this is definetely the stage where you need to start working on your fundamentals and matchup knowledge if you want to keep ranking.
I’m at Mighty Ruler but I keep getting smacked by other purples or blue ranks. It seemed way harder to get up to purple ranks in T7 compared to T8 but also maybe the fact that it’s a cap on how many times you can rematch that makes a bit of a difference.
As a person who's in Garyu i can say ive been having a difficult time lol like im winning but also losing so i keep staggering in between Garyu I don't reach low enough to demote but also not high enough to promote. But I also have a lot to learn, I play devil jin and I know a lot of people are saying DJ is easy to play or is broken which im not exactly going to argue about but i go against a lot of players who know the match up well and sidestep punish me a lot so it is a good learning experience. I'm also still trying to hit pewgf more consistently and learn how to wave dash properly lol
I’m bouncing back and forth between Eliminator and Destroyer trying to cross in the reds but I have my settings play people above my rank and it’s been a grind…I’ll come across good bump that I can win or lose and then all of a sudden a random Fujin appears and it’s my promotion match 😂
Yeah, I just stopped there considering later ranks need more points. And I don't have much time to play as much as I did when I played T7. Where I got Fujin.
Garyu Jin player here, i topped out at saviour with Jin in Tekken 7. I started playing around the time when Lidia came out. It took me over 1700 hours from zero Tekken experience to saviour rank with Jin. I would argue that saviour in Tekken 7 was waaaaay harder then garyu in Tekken 8. I went with Jin from warrior until eliminator without losing a single match. When i got to red ranks i got the same feeling as when i entered brown ranks in Tekken 7 "why does everyone have perfect kbd's and justframe inputs? Am i this high up in ranked?" Now i have noticed that NOONE has movement that beats the yellow ranks in Tekken 7 up in the red ranks in t8. Like, i go up against people that seems to be there just because they found out that they could mash a single plus on block move until they got there. One thing i also noticed, i have been up against very few "common" characters, i always go up against Reina, Victor, lili, azucena, yoshimitsu and those type of characters. I havent seen a dragunov in a long time, no king players, no Lee players and barely seen any mishimas. Only characters that you can smash the controller in your face and get a long ass string with lots of mixups in, sees some playtime against me. The positive thing about it is that i get to practise these odd matchups when they dont one and done me. The only time i get rematched is when i go up against someone thats way better then me, they dont do shit first match, next match they throw me around like a leaf in the wind and the third match is ALWAYS very close. Even with all this, i love this game and i will play this game until the day they release Tekken 9. Im aiming for the top, noone can stop me! Besides work, work always manages to get in the way of beating up strangers online 😂😂
You have to factor in the amount of new players across all platforms now playing the game. All the top dogs and veterans are already in the god ranks everyone else is either new or very casual. Around raijin you start to encounter actual proper tekken players. Below that is newcomers and very casual players who actually play for fun more than anything else. Not to mention the demotion matches arent that scary as you will be on promo again the next game
Just got to purple with this being my first Tekken. Got a weird bugged where I promoted but still at Tenryu. Had to do it twice lol, hopefully they fix it
Flame Ruler Here and still climbing 😊 I want Fujin then Tekken King My win % is 60% and Im climbing at a steady rank so Im content! Ive been a King Main since Tekken 1 so ....😊
Red is definitely not Average . I am Garyu and I played people even higher, Might Ruler etc and it was sweaty matches but not all were. It is a mix of randoms, but the matches all then requires skill and knowledge in the game. Its inflated though. This game has way too many gimmicks and people win off of dumb crap like, stages with exploding walls, floors that break, wall breaks, wall juggles in general , spamming R1 , waiting out RT etc etc that gets them into higher ranks but when they come across moments where those gimmicks aren’t in there favor? They get clapped. With that said, Garyus a high rank and congrats to anyone whos earned it and wants to go further!
I think I might have been on that thresh hold of high orange low red when this chart came out, but now I just recently hit Mighty Ruler. So still learning, but think I am intermediate as far as my skill.
I’m orange rank. But only have about 13 hours play time since release. That’s counting the training, player matches, ranked and single player stuff I’ve done.
Lotus: "Rank is not the end all be all of how good somebody is at the game." Also Lotus: "Friend, you are Garyu, you're not that nice." In all seriousness though, there will always be outliers to everything due to how statistics are. There is some merit to reaching a higher rank, but even a skilled person can fumble the ball.
I got red rank with drag and struggled but got to rank with jin and was much easier. currently trying to learn Leo now but ranked especially this early i feel is very inflated especially with the pluggers in the game currently but honestly it's easier to rank up in T8 compared to T7 but the experience is what makes the rank grind fun or dreadful.
I think the problem with folks arguing what's "intermediate" play is that a lot of fighting game players both overestimate what "average" play looks like and underestimate how much their experience in the genre helps. Also Tekken is in general a knowledge check heavy game just cause of the size of the movelists so yeah people are going to get away with gimmicks even on the higher ranks just with less frequency.
Im new to fighting games/tekken I've been playing almost for 2 weeks now. I make it to vanquisher and I am quite proud of myself even though is consider a low rank
LOL blue is intermediate WHAT?! High orange is intermediate, reds I'd consider you good at the game, and blue and beyond you're really good. I think some of these ranks get inflated due to how easy it is to plug and avoid any losses and just continue climbing ranks where lots of players really don't belong. LTG is a great example of someone who got where he is ranked wise by constantly plugging. Its not all the representation but I think it skews it a bit.
I made it to Purple Rank in T7 with Lars (which I’m proud of because he was pretty low on the tiers most of the time) and coming to T8 I felt that it would be too easy to rank up with him and switched to Reina. Now I’m stuck in Tenryu 🥲 but I’m proud because she’s harder to play than Lars
i think in my humble opinion if they start making the plugging folk lose points we will see a huge difference in the chart .
problem is before they can implement that they need to fix the random low level fatal error pc players are getting that causes the game to crash randomly on some stages.
@@Kurinththere is a lot of problems i hope they fix stuff
@@Kurinth Does that actually happen though?
@@thefilth7368yup, game just be crashing randomly on pc and comes up with an error
@@thefilth7368it’s seemingly random, but sometimes it’s happened to me 3+ times in one session, thought it was an AMD graphics card issue but after further research it just kinda happens… I have an RTX 6950 so it should be able to handle games like tekken
Purple rank here. It wasn’t too hard to get to purple rank though. Which was odd since T7 was hell to get to orange rank.
Maybe you just got better
Tbh getting to purple rank in tk7 feels worth my skill...but in tk8 it just feels too cheap or too short of an effort to take. I kinda miss tk7 though there are less bs and more fundamentals and knowledge check than in tk8
Its simple the ranking system in t8 is like a pve grind fest becuase of demoting doesnt make you lose much points
@@nabedesu7708 while i love Tekken 8 too, i’m not that big of a fan of the combination of the heat system and rage arts. Sometimes losing a match from almost full health because my opponents goes super defensive and just Waits for me to move my toe and deletes my hp bar with these kinda makes me feel like “did you really deserve that win though?”. Which is a garbage feeling because obviously he just used the tools the game gives to him, but it feels like they went a bit too hard on the comeback mechanics.
@@royce536 Nope its because tekken 8 has a lot more casual players playing the game who dont sweat all day. Tekken 7 at the end of its cycle of its life was pure sweatlords through and through.
Blue Ranks being intermediate is a wild opinion
I agree. I was able to hit fujin on steve but I have been playing for quite some time. It is definitely getting hard now but thats just how it is. I hit fujin in tekken 7 with geese but he was a cracked character meanwhile my steve only ever got to divine ruler. Your character can carry you really hard in this game so keep that in mind. A fujin paul will be extremely different than a fujin devil jin as there is way more character execution and expression that is possible. you dont even need 60% win rate to be in the top 4% of players think about that..
A lot of people were able to hit that rank within a month. Compared to the average person it’s a high rank, but not to those who have put a lot of time into the game.
Fujin with victor will be different to someone who gets fujin with Bryan, Kazuya, Steve, Jin, Reina etc I would agree that there are definitely some boosted players right now sort of like lei wulong in tekken 7.
agreed.. top 4% of overall players is no joke.. im red
@@PP-ss3zftekken is the only spot where they call the top 4% intermediate smh
Low is to the highest green rank, mid is orange to red, high is purple to blue and then there's a expert level beyond blue
I think i can agree with this 💯💯💯
There DEF a huge skill gap between orange and red
I've been playing since Tekken 3 but I reached Fujin on Tekken 8. Though I agree with what you said, in Tekken 7 getting out of yellow ranks was pure torture during the early days. I've noticed that in the blue ranks you'll either play against really good players, players carried by easier characters, or pluggers/rage quitters who don't belong there.
Facts on all points. Yellow and orange ranks was a nightmare been playing since TT3/TT1 and reaching red in Tekken 7 was respectable reached the blue ranks in T7 maining Heihachi a tough character to reach high ranks with and I'm almost at fujin in TK8 with Kuma. I think its safe to say people got better in addition to everything you said but remember in early tekken 7 it was dominated by smurfs all the way from blue to red. The player pool has expanded too with alot more casuals.
@@waize-1383 yea man, and bro even though I've been a Jin main since day 1 I still really miss playing Heihachi; I absolutely love Tekken 8 but not having Heihachi for the first time is sad. I still remember the shitshow that was Tag 2 online, it was dominated by double capos doing the most ridiculous shit in green ranks. But you're right, in Tekken 8 I feel like reaching Fujin is a combination of the ranked mode being a little more forgiving with demotions and the process of just getting better at the game (it also helps that the replay mode is really good for learning how to play against characters you're having trouble with).
I feel like it is also easier to rank up in this tekken cause there's such a huge influx of newer players. Not saying you didn't earn your way up there to Fujin but I feel like having more newcomers and less die hard and veteran tekken players make ranking up that much easier.
@@AcerAz115 oh for sure, I just got to Kishin and blue ranks kinda feel all over the place. There'll be many players who are actually insane at the game, and then there will be others who abuse very easy characters and don't have great fundamentals/movement. Up until purple ranks the game felt very easy and you can tell who's a newcomer and who's a long time player. To add on to your point, I also think that the rank system is a bit weird, sometimes I'll win 300-500 points with a win, and other times I'll either get 1000 points or lose 1000 points, it's super weird but I heard that streaks increase your points.
@angryassyrian5627 yah def i would say i play one of the easier characters, ive been maining devil jin since T5 and he is pretty broken in T8 lol but his 'kit' only carried me to garyu. After that i really had to learn the character more in depth. And i do think having win streaks increase your points however idk how they determine losing points i have never lost more than 400 points yet from losing. But have gained about 1000 from winning.
I'm Flame Ruler right now and the biggest jump I've seen in skill has been Red -> Purple. Before Red ranks is tons of spam and gimmicks. In Red, people generally seem to have a grasp on their characters, but almost no matchup knowledge. And now in Purple I'm finally playing people who know some matchups, and can hold back on their D-pad and punish correctly. I can still get away with cheese sometimes, but even then most Purples adapt during the match. I reckon Blue is where I'll plateau until I lab more characters.
As a red rank myself (Garyu) I can perfectly identify as someone who fits in that description. I've learned (more or less) how my character works, but I still fail to know when and how to punish my opponents so I lose lots of opportunities to deal damage and win matches.
Checks out. Im on Garyu with steve i know the character well and how to use him effectively. But my matchup knowledge and defense/Punishment is pretty weak against the majority of other characters.
I can see that sometimes. But i often also run into players in Garyu who knows exactly how to counter me and can constantly block my lows or duck under my highs
@@Zenress I guess that's people who are currently climbing ranks and are on their path to higher ones. When I started playing I also met people like that in the lowest ranks.
biggest jump I've seen is Rulers -> Blue
Red and Rulers are similar from my experience/region atleast
I'm Garyu and I'm pretty happy with having made it this far in about a week. This is the first Tekken where I learn to do something besides b3 into combo with Asuka so I'm not expecting wonders here. Still, I'm getting better and I see many of the areas where I need improvement. Still gotta get a better grasp on my range, I still panic and try to press the win button sometimes instead of focusing on countering a playstyle, my breaks are slow, and yeah obviously I'm getting killed by knowledge checks but ey...whatever...it's fun here and I plan to make it to Shinryu today.
I believe Reds are equivalent to the Platinum Rank in SF6. You arent at the highest, but you have made it significantly further than a lot of players. Its also where shit gets real, and making it past those ranks into the purples is where you get to the actually skillful players.
It’s gotta be like gold
Shit does not get real in platinum. This is why most of us can take any character to master rank in a day or two.
@@cousinearl6846if you are a master at a character then you can be a master at others easier.
if we thalk tekken that its probely high bleu these players will punish do massive combos now strings and are busy with frame data and being plus and can react to stupid shit like a sneak edge i am purple now with 3 char and they are not that good even i am still bad no corecht punish and eated a snake edge not so long ago from a law
Not currently, demotion not being a thing until yellow makes current red ranks equivalent to green ranks. However due to being less ranks currently, higher ranks are more mixed like later purple and blue being kinda the same
right now, most professionals are playing around Fujin to Kishin with their secondary characters.
getting through that means you can encounter professionals and beat them.
I’m currently sitting in purple ranks with devil jin and man I’m having a blast! I’m at the point where matchup knowledge is paramount even though my fundamentals are getting better, it’s gonna take a lot of time to learn some of these characters. I’m super happy with how far I’ve come given this is my first tekken game playing against other people, and I hope to get to blue eventually with a Mishima!
Devil Jin carries you to purple rank… 😢
“A Mishima” 😂
Rank is definitely interesting this time around. Back in T7 when I first started I was able to get to high orange very fast with Fahk but I felt like he carried me. So I switched to Armor King and it took me wayyyy longer to get to red and Iwas JUST BARELY on the Purple line before I stopped playing. Fast forward to T8 I was able to get to Mighty ruler literally week 2 with Lars. Again I felt carried (CAUSE I DEFO WAS) so I found Leroy. Taking me way longer to understand Leroy but I have surpassed my Lars and I dont feel carried I am proud of that FOR ME personally I've never made it to this rank in T7. Trying to get to at least Tekken King cause it will look good on me. LMAOOO
I got to warrior rank with kunimitsu in tekken 7 a few days before I got tekken 8. In tekken 8 I main Jun and the highest rank I got is eliminator. I’m in destroyer right now because every time I get eliminator I get bounced back by red rank players. I feel like orange rank is where I will reside till I improve my fundamentals and Punishment knowledge on certain matchups. Eventually I’ll master the punishments and then I’ll sky rocket my ranks. But for right now I’m where I need to be.
What system you play on ? I’m Down to play and improve
@@MVP3RRY I play on ps5
Drop your psn
@@MVP3RRY it’s Dark_Mage_Ninja
U gotta mic i could help im tenryu or atleast we can run some matches n ill give you some pointers to get to red@darkmage907
I'm currently in the Red Ranks (specifically Tenryu atm) but imo they way I would consider skill level is this:
Green/Yellow - Ok (Somewhat new and their fundamentals typically aren't that polished nor execution)
Orange/Red - Intermediate (Definitely solid and good at the game, but not the best nor the worst regarding with their fundamentals and execution)
Purple/Blue - Really good at the game
Beyond that is amazing
I feel you bro it took me 6 months to get to warrior in tekken 7 which felt really wrong cuz i know of a dude who reached tekken god in a year so i felt like i was behind
In my opinion:
Beginner: - Late Yellow Ranks
Intermediate: Vanquisher - Mighty Ruler
High Level: Flame Ruler - Bushin
Professional Tournament Players/Cheaters: Tekken King and beyond
Damn I’m not either 😂 (Tekken King)
Let's go I barely scraped high level
Seems about right.
I think getting to purple itself is something worth being proud about (I'd say it's the 'above average' rank at least) but yeah, T7 was DEFINITELY much harder to get to. I think by the end of it I had barely gotten to red. And, to be fair, the original ranking system was pretty asinine with how it worked.
Plus I think forcing people to only do best of 3's helps a lot of ranks because I know for a fact instead of taking an L and leaving when I should I used to rematch until I was satisfied lmao
Deathmatching was lit tho! But yeah I remember when you had to be pretty nasty to get to Mighty Ruler. Not tryna say it isn't something to be proud of now, but it absolutely used to be much more difficult.
I’d say fujin could still be considered high-Intermediate, but After Bushin that’s advanced play. Then from advanced you have semi-pro to Pro players etc…
Tbh I should be tekken king rank but the real I'm not there is due to how the rank system works, the plugging not only do I not get victory points but I also lose my streak and is reset to 0 which when you get to 3 win streak you get bonus points so I get robbed even more which is so frustrating. I do take pride on my channel of being a lili main and a zafina at my 2nd in my command. Just sucks why they haven't fixed the plugging issue :(
I made it to Flame Ruler with Azucena. I definitely see the difference between Purple & Red. Now I’m at the point where I’m getting beat by matchup knowledge.
I think it’s worth noting that there are only three ranks per color in the majority of ranks as opposed to four ranks per color like previous Tekkens.
I also believe that Tekken ranks can be summed up as pre Tekken 7 season 2 and post Tekken 7 season 2. If you played T6, Tag 2, and T7 season 1, orange was decent and red was really good. After T7 season 2, blue was the new red rank. On the one hand, the ranking system pre T7 season 2 was a lot more brutal and unforgiving which made it more stressful to play ranked. On the other hand, T7 post season 2 makes it more enjoyable to play ranked (especially for lower ranked players).
For Tekken 8, I think that red rank is decent and purple is where people start to really establish a game plan. Blue rank is where people start to play decent Tekken, and gold-purple is where people have tighter gameplay, frame traps, whiff punishing, and you start to see some fundamentals. Anything above that is either extremely solid or extremely aggressive players.
I just made it to Tekken King and I’m starting to get some resistance in my matches. I think I’m good at being in gold-purple for now, but I might hop back in soon and try for Tekken God.
I’m Tekken King Law and this sounds accurate. 😊
I feel people not giving red ranks enough credit, I’m learning real tekken and it’s been a grind getting to shinryu and I’m getting my way to tenryu, red ranks have some REAL players, I’ve played mighty rulers and even fujin’s much much worst than people I’ve seen in tenryu. Either way, be proud of where you are now and strive to keep getting better
Completely agree with you, I've been fighting for my life in red as a Reina main! This is the first Tekken game I've taken seriously and getting to red by improving my fundamentals was quite the task 😅. I think these opinions are coming from people with legacy Tekken skills so their view of intermediate would be different from someone looking on the outside
Reina main here red rank man I can't get out of the first red rank it's just ridiculous.
Red is the new green ranks of tekken
Would be interesting to see an updated info graphic. I was about to hit garyu when I first saw this and I'm now Tekken king. I wonder if the percentages would be different now.
Id love to see a rank distribution chart per character
I only recently got garyu with lee im new to tekken but at the same time im used to the fgc downplaying any rank that isnt like the top ranks,im proud of how far i came as a new player. Dont let anyone take your achievements from you ☺️
AT THE SAME TIME IF YOU CHERRY PICKED/ONE AND DONED YOJR WAY TO THE TOP HOW MUCH DOES THAT RANK REALLY MATTER
bro it would be awesome to see you at a tournament in the future i heard Lil Majin is willing to train AfroSenju it would be fun to see you with Majin as well talking about tekken
I may or may not be getting coached by a very skilled, veteran Tekken player soon :)
@@LotusAsakura are you the one under Anakin's wings? ^^
As someone who is flame ruler I would honestly say that orange is a good rank for new comers or casual players but if you put hours into Tekken then purple and blue is a different ball game. The skill checks and match up knowledge is insane but you'll always get some who are in high ranks who aren't as strong as there rank and those is red or even orange who have amazing combos and execution but dont really study frame data.
I’m embarrassed to admit that I’m hard stuck in the orange ranks at the moment….😕 I have this incredible ability to get the opponent to near death but to let them come back and beat me. I need to count how many fights went exactly like that because I swear it’s at least 100.
Had that problem too. But for me I basically just had to made myself learn how to keep it simple and balance having fun and being competitive. It also helps to have short term memory with your frustrations
I'm stuck in orange ranks too. Got so close to Garyu rank but after losing a bunch of fights, I got demoted back to destroyer lol
I’m current at Fujin and I’ll give you some tips. When you find yourself with a huge life lead don’t be afraid to keep pressure on your opponent to close the round. Preferably, learn your character’s frame traps and quick mids like df1 so you can force your opponent to make a mistake. Using something too obvious like constant lows or unsafe moves will give your opponent an opportunity to make a comeback. Also, incorporate throws as best you can. Around your rank most players struggle breaking throws especially command throws.
@@anima-xii thanks. But honestly I’m surprised by amount of players that can tech throws almost every time. But I get a few throws off when I can. Still working on some other stuff. I’ll get there one day
@@Urlastnerve Yea some folks can break them while others are pretty bad it. it helps to mix up normal throws and command throws to trick people. Keep working hard and you'll do just fine. Find your weaknesses and conquer them.
I think reaching higher ranks was a lot easier when the game first came out. Skill level around orange/red is definitely getting higher and honestly there are a lot of players that simply do not belong there. Played one earlier that was still using easy inputs.
You mentioned the difference in the rank system in T7 and T8 and its true green to yellow was a hassle in T7 and getting out of orange was hell (I got gate kept out of red 6 times early in t7 lifespan and near the end) and in T8 I'm currently shinryu near my promo game to tenryuu without a lot of issues being gate kepted the demotion and promotion thing makes iit so you keep your rank, but the points protection till yellow makes me think we need a another set of ranks somewhere between orange to mighty ruler to filter out more players if you want a more equal/fair games once the cheaters and pluggers are gone
Ur right about ranks not meaning everything. Higher ranks are easier to get to depending on ur character. Alisa and Victor are gonna have a much easier time getting to purple ranks than characters like Bryan or kazuya. A kazuya at red ranks is almost guaranteed to be better as playing “real tekken” than a law etc
Just Subbed. Made it to Flame Ruler and purple is definitely hard but I feel like everyone improves and gets better the more they play.
Welcome to the channel!
I would say that the region you are playing in also play a significant role.
Currently last red rank playing in Japan/Korea server, it take more time than I thought for me to get to violet. I was not new to tekken but its only the second one since T5 that im starting to play seriously. And before that I have long experience of 20+years as a competitor/tournament player in Soulcalibur series.
So based on my experience playing t8 and my past in Vs figting at high level, I feel that in Jp/Ko server Red is intermediate, Violet are advanced level, blue is expert, above is master and +.
When I watched streams of people doing rank in US I am very surprised about the lower skill level of players when comparing to here for same rank.
But again its my personal feeling.
Yeah Asia region is hard. Tons of players who were high ranks in T7 haven't yet climbed up.
Middle East, Asia 1 players has higher probability of players who haven't climbed up yet.
Asia 2 is mixed bag atm. Based on players I have played. It's either scrubs Or pros.
Not sure about JO/KO, but I am sure they are comparable or above Asia 2.
Have you played other regions other than Asia? My current impression with the Asian region, coming from Asia 3, is that Japan players most of the time don't want to match anyone other than their region, KR is same with JP but if they match, they rage quits after 1 loss (playable 100 ping), Asia 2 (Thai, Malaysia) they match me most of the time even while losing (they have a lot of heart). Asia 3 has a lot of wifi players 😂
@@mkt-7 On Lounges and in T7, yeah. Here is my opinion on them.
If you are fighting American or European Players, it depends on how much matchup knowledge you have about their character. They tend to check more than Asian players barring maybe Middle East players or Asia 1 players who would abuse stuff as much as possible(as in stuff you can't deal with, moves which work on bad connection etc) but they can also play fundamental Tekken just fine and also know when to disrespect frames. Which is lacking in European or American players I have fought so far.
Anyways for T7 personally I felt like their Red rank is more like Yellow ranks in Asia. Based on tournament matches I fought with them. Specifically for europe region. Hell even had one of Lucky Chloe players who reached TGP by spamming Cali roll when it is consistently punished or sidestepped at Orange ranks in Asia server. And couple of Mighty Ruler Alisa's in Europen region who got there just by spamming b3+4, 3+4 which would get you killed in like Orange to Red ranks in Asia(being generous to European region).
As for Asian players. Generally I too find Asia 2 players to be nicest in terms of manners. Asia 1 and Asia 2 players rematch until you are done. Korea or Japan, they only rematch if you win against them(Japanese do rematch if they feel pressured more than Koreans.) But if you lose they generally won't give you chance to adapt to them. Asia 3? Haven't faced many of them yet. Middle East? They are generally laggy even with 5 bars and would abuse lag only setups, so are terrible to fight against. And they are pretty toxic as well in general. Asia 1 and Middle East players also tend to smurf at low ranks compared to other Asian regions.
@ragnarok7452 That's pretty interesting. Maybe the difference in skill is with intermediate ranks with the EU, NA server. But to be fair with them, they have some of the best tournament players too (anakin, joka etc) Asia 3 btw is Philippines and taiwan
@@mkt-7 Yeah, I think it mostly applies at general player levels. At high level I think it is more or less representative of the individual than the group.
I hit red rank once and haven’t been back since I’m hard stuck in eliminator😢
@@ActNasty5 I think imma just drop Steve I just picked up alisa and I went on a 13 game win streak lol
@@parisatkins32 early ranks alisa will do well cause no one knows what she does. Just got to clutch up one you hit fujin rank
I just hit mighty ruler which is way higher than I got on T7 but I want to keep improving cause I enjoy the game so much😅
I got marauder in tekken 7 now I’m Garyu in 8. I’m a SF player and I’m enjoying tekken 8.
I’m almost in the red rank. I think that’s where I’m going to have to most trouble. My match up knowledge is a little weak. Some characters I just don’t have a clue about. Luckily T8 has a lot of ways to study different characters so you can develop strategies and get overall better at the game.
I wonder if there's an update to this. I low-key think rank is free but you video with Phi was a great way to look at rank. Good content my guy
I made it to red rank and it’s the obstacle a lot of people have to get past if they are serious about getting better at the game. There’s good players and people who, like you said, were able to beat others who weren’t as good. It’s a grind but it’s definitely rewarding.
purple ranks feel like t7 yellow ranks for some reason lol
Tekken Ranks for a “siege” players
Light blue - copper
Green - bronze
Yellow -silver
Orange -low gold
Red - Mid to high Gold
Purple -Platinum
Blues -Emerald
2nd purples- Low Diamond
Tekken Lord - Mid Diamond
Tekken god sup -high diamond
God of destruction -Champ
Blue Rank the most annoying ranks because you have 1 extra rank to rank up compared to the other ranks making it super hard getting Tekken King.😂
I think it’s also important to consider your region. The difficulty to get to Bushin above in Asia is way difficult than it is in the west. Had a similar experience with SF6.
Stuck hard at 1600 in Asia, but climbed easily to 1750+MR in the US during a vacation
US is the easiest region to climb in, everyone in fgc knows that (except americans ofc) lol
I caught you in ranked yesterday, Raven player here. Good games man
Good vid. I feel like the Tekken 7 system was better in terms of demotions on every rank and having to play a couple of matches as a punishment to get to the rank you fell from, but not in terms of farming point on people on rematches. I once found a guy like 10 ranks higher than me and we were constantly clicking rematch after we went back and forth with winning and I was winning some nice point every time (reduced by each mach) while he was winning only 50 points for the fight (I know how many since I've had the exact situation with a "weaker" player), and I couldn't get past vanquisher I believe. Now I sat down with my already acquired skills and improving with each match I barely lost games and in 1-2 hours I got myself warrior (after being placed in Brawler after evaluation of my skills). No demotion is nice, but not challenging. Skill evaluation is nice, but not as rewarding. And yet somehow the experience is far less tilting and enjoyable. Looking forward to reaching as high as I can with my Devil Jin.
I thought I was good being a tenryu. But now that I watch this I think there's a reason I go on losing streaks when I get my chance at promoting
This is my first tekken game that I’ve actually put real time into and also the first fighting game that has really kept my attention and motivation. I wonder why it is.
T8 is my first ever Tekken game, and I managed to get to Garyu, so I'd say "average" is probably accurate. I can absolutely pop off, but I still have no idea what I'm doing in some situations.
I think that there is just more tools for people to learn the actual game and how to play it than ever before. Previous generations of players are just trying to diminish the peoples skill just because they did not have the acccess to these learning tools and had a harder time learning the game than people of today in my humble opinion.
Yeah, finally implementing frame data in game (about time lol) helped level the situation. In tekken 7 I was beaten many times because I didn't know wtf happened and labbing was longer and way more tedious than needed, which gave legacy players and even higher ground than they already have by playing a game where your main would barely vary from game to game
I’m just glad I’m in the top 80% baby!!!
T7 Ryujin here (one rank before emperor), currently Bushin atm (one rank before Tekken King). Fujin and above feel almost the same as it did in T7. Like Fujin and Raijin are purple ranks in T7 and Kishin and Bushin are the new Fujin and Raijin. Second chance promotions in this game really inflates rank. I hit a hard ceiling at high blue ranks in T7. I feel like I haven’t hit that ceiling yet at Bushin. I think Tekken God will be my hard ceiling for me. Maybe supreme since you do get second chance at demotions.
This is my first tekken, but I used to play Soul Calibur, so I have a little bit of fighting game experience. My main Nina is at eliminator right now, and im probably about to hit ganryu here soon. I'm pretty stoked about that as a first-time player.
I don’t have any experience with Tekken 7, but I feel that since Tekken 8 is selling so well and has such a large influx of new players, people are able to climb the ranked ladders much easier since there’s a wide variety of skill levels in most ranks currently. Loving my time with this game as my first Tekken.
In rank my hearts beating too strong during fights. i win almost all the time.but i play more quick match to stay away from stress. but even quick match is very stressfull 😅😢
this dude looks like a limited season pass DLC fighter. SUBBED!
Just got my boy Hwoarang to Fujin yesterday, also you just earn yourself a subscriber
Got any tips for combos or practising with hwoarang? In garyu now and want to master him more
@@draken4671Since he doesn't want to help you, i will do as a Hwoarang Main at Mighty Ruler. For combos you just have to watch combo guides and learn the a bit harder combos of him and beside that you should also watch other guides of him like about pressure and mix ups. I recommend the guides of Swanky Gamez. Learning match ups and movement is very important as well.
@@draken4671Since he doesn't want to help you, i will do as a Hwoarang Main at Mighty Ruler. For better combos, you just have to watch combo guides of him and learning the harder ones for more damage. Beside that you should also watch guides about his pressure and mix ups, i recommend the guides of Swanky Gamez. But u should also practice match ups and movement if you want to get higher in ranked.
@@draken4671 I usually watch high level players like K-wiss to spice up my gameplay. Also he does have a Hwoarang guide video you should check out.
That FLCL Intro tho.. ❤️ the pillows
most smart tekken video i have seen
Had a break from playing tekken for 7 years then jumped on and made it to battle ruler I was pretty impressed with myself considering I had to learn all the mechanics again plus the new tekken 8 stuff.
My first Tekken playing properly (I used to played extremely casually and mashing from T3 to T5) and I'm pretty proud to be in Garyu. Definitely stuck there now though
I think you gotta give it more time. Mostly cause the game is new, and not everyone is grinding ranked, or even playing T8 over other games
i’ve been playing tekken for years but never consistently. tekken 8 has made me want to play because it’s a bit easier for me to learn inputs. i will say as i’ve been climbing there are definitely the people who deserve rank and those who just spam one move to get one combo then heat and rage art. i never one and done with someone unless their connection is really bad
Ppl saying garyu is average just shows that most ppl dont understand statistics
Lol right? Average and median are very different
Ah man, here i was being pleased that im almost red rank with Kazuya
Its also a little too early to determine the real value of these ranks. Maybe blue and up you can make a case for, but you can cheese your way into purple ranks with pure knowledge checks. Once we have a little more time with the game and a few more corrections down the line, these ranks will start making more sense.
1:05 I am firm beliver of that myself Lotus tbh the only reason I have a rank with my character is because unlike in Tekken 7 where you can go straight online this game you had to face a bot and it just gave you a rank from the jump so I'm a Strategist with Lee cuz of that. I used to play rank around Street Fighter 4, Street Fighter X Tekken, Tekken 6, Marvel Vs Capcom 3 etc but something I learned over the years playing is that ranked doesnt really mean nothing tbh. Not saying people shouldn't be proud of where there at or feel like they actually progressed but A LOT of players only care about getting rank as opposed to getting better and actually learning the characters and matchups. Hell watching my homies/homegirls play Tekken I see people constantly plugging or one and doneing just to get to a rank where they want to get to. And that's why I choose not to play ranked myself I'm the type of player where I want to really learn the mechanics of the game, characters, matchups, so I just choose to play quick match and my homies who are really good in the game. I feel once players learn to play to learn as opposed to play to win that's when fighting games become a whole lot funner imo.
I am in Kishin, Its new start of tekken for me. Need to master more characters, master more frame data, frame traps, flowcharts, for me Its place where REAL tekken starts... Hard work on my way, my target is to get alteast tekken god, Ive would be really happy after that
That's crazy, I don't pay any attention and for some reason this motivates me. Tbh I am a VF player actually and can't wait for VF6 and I'm playing Tekken to get ready for the eventual return. This is about the last 3d fighter and is my least fav out of VF SC and Tekken. This game has me excited for the next level of 3d fighters so I am going to be an actual tryhard.
It is pretty funny how there are a lot of salty mfs in red rank just like in T7. Once I got red the first time in T8, all the plugs, ki charges, and no rematches started crawling outta the woodwork 😂
At mid Raijin things get tough man, you get humbled quick when you get there
I was in the yellow ranks in T7, but I didn't play online that much. My friends were in Purple and God and I played with them a lot. Now im a Shinryu in T8. Still consider myself pretty casual.
I feel like ranked was better before but that's just my personal opinion.
Because of the way its structured to encourage players more, what we're seeing is a large mix of players. Red-Purple ranks are a big mix of average casuals and really good players that are probably playing on their secondary character. Before, these players were more spread out.
I’m Garyu, played a bit T7 at release, I couldn’t make it past yellow ranks, playing irregularly the first year of release. Tuning into ranked in T8 has been difficult. I’m trying to play regularly. So much offense and I have no idea how many strings work. I know some combos and frame traps. Learning KBD and proper sidestepping. Very hard to improve honestly. It feels extremely hard to surpass this rank for me. I make too many mistakes, I feel very noob. Hopefully I can slowly improve through dedication and practice. I’m having a lot of fun. GL everyone
Currently Flame ruler now with my Jin. I will work my ass off until I reach God of Destruction.
I stopped at Fujin and now only play to learn all the new character matchups. In a year ill be ready to get my main to Tekken King or above.
I made it to Ryujin in T7. I'm a Mighty Ruler for 2 characters currently. I'd say the competition is strong right now in Tekken, with everyone and we're only a month in.
I've noticed a lot of new players have set their goal to get red ranks "Garyu". There is nothing wrong with that btw. However as a result I've been seeing heaps of Garyu players who have managed to scrape there way there using some hyper aggressive/cheesy flow charts that work on lower level players. But they don't know how to do simple things like how to get out of jab pressure.
I've had a few times where I literally just jabbed, DF 1, and low poke Garyu players to death, and they have no idea how to deal with it properly.
If your a new player who has just hit red ranks, this is definetely the stage where you need to start working on your fundamentals and matchup knowledge if you want to keep ranking.
I’m at Mighty Ruler but I keep getting smacked by other purples or blue ranks. It seemed way harder to get up to purple ranks in T7 compared to T8 but also maybe the fact that it’s a cap on how many times you can rematch that makes a bit of a difference.
As a person who's in Garyu i can say ive been having a difficult time lol like im winning but also losing so i keep staggering in between Garyu I don't reach low enough to demote but also not high enough to promote. But I also have a lot to learn, I play devil jin and I know a lot of people are saying DJ is easy to play or is broken which im not exactly going to argue about but i go against a lot of players who know the match up well and sidestep punish me a lot so it is a good learning experience. I'm also still trying to hit pewgf more consistently and learn how to wave dash properly lol
I’m bouncing back and forth between Eliminator and Destroyer trying to cross in the reds but I have my settings play people above my rank and it’s been a grind…I’ll come across good bump that I can win or lose and then all of a sudden a random Fujin appears and it’s my promotion match 😂
Garyu gang
Same, just hit it today 🐉 😎
Yeah, I just stopped there considering later ranks need more points. And I don't have much time to play as much as I did when I played T7. Where I got Fujin.
Garyu Jin player here, i topped out at saviour with Jin in Tekken 7. I started playing around the time when Lidia came out. It took me over 1700 hours from zero Tekken experience to saviour rank with Jin. I would argue that saviour in Tekken 7 was waaaaay harder then garyu in Tekken 8. I went with Jin from warrior until eliminator without losing a single match. When i got to red ranks i got the same feeling as when i entered brown ranks in Tekken 7 "why does everyone have perfect kbd's and justframe inputs? Am i this high up in ranked?" Now i have noticed that NOONE has movement that beats the yellow ranks in Tekken 7 up in the red ranks in t8. Like, i go up against people that seems to be there just because they found out that they could mash a single plus on block move until they got there. One thing i also noticed, i have been up against very few "common" characters, i always go up against Reina, Victor, lili, azucena, yoshimitsu and those type of characters. I havent seen a dragunov in a long time, no king players, no Lee players and barely seen any mishimas. Only characters that you can smash the controller in your face and get a long ass string with lots of mixups in, sees some playtime against me. The positive thing about it is that i get to practise these odd matchups when they dont one and done me. The only time i get rematched is when i go up against someone thats way better then me, they dont do shit first match, next match they throw me around like a leaf in the wind and the third match is ALWAYS very close. Even with all this, i love this game and i will play this game until the day they release Tekken 9. Im aiming for the top, noone can stop me! Besides work, work always manages to get in the way of beating up strangers online 😂😂
You have to factor in the amount of new players across all platforms now playing the game. All the top dogs and veterans are already in the god ranks everyone else is either new or very casual. Around raijin you start to encounter actual proper tekken players. Below that is newcomers and very casual players who actually play for fun more than anything else. Not to mention the demotion matches arent that scary as you will be on promo again the next game
Just got to purple with this being my first Tekken. Got a weird bugged where I promoted but still at Tenryu. Had to do it twice lol, hopefully they fix it
Who is your main?
Flame Ruler Here and still climbing 😊 I want Fujin then Tekken King My win % is 60% and Im climbing at a steady rank so Im content! Ive been a King Main since Tekken 1 so ....😊
Red is definitely not Average . I am Garyu and I played people even higher, Might Ruler etc and it was sweaty matches but not all were. It is a mix of randoms, but the matches all then requires skill and knowledge in the game. Its inflated though. This game has way too many gimmicks and people win off of dumb crap like, stages with exploding walls, floors that break, wall breaks, wall juggles in general , spamming R1 , waiting out RT etc etc that gets them into higher ranks but when they come across moments where those gimmicks aren’t in there favor? They get clapped. With that said, Garyus a high rank and congrats to anyone whos earned it and wants to go further!
I think I might have been on that thresh hold of high orange low red when this chart came out, but now I just recently hit Mighty Ruler. So still learning, but think I am intermediate as far as my skill.
Currently a ten ryu rn but when I was a destroyer I was ranked up against mighty rulers and shit and winning ranked kinda trippy
I’m orange rank. But only have about 13 hours play time since release. That’s counting the training, player matches, ranked and single player stuff I’ve done.
I’m new to tekken, been playing 7 every day until I can get 8, then I’m gonna abuse everyone in my way with Lars wish me luck😤💯
I got two characters to red rank. Im happy with it.
Lotus: "Rank is not the end all be all of how good somebody is at the game."
Also Lotus: "Friend, you are Garyu, you're not that nice."
In all seriousness though, there will always be outliers to everything due to how statistics are. There is some merit to reaching a higher rank, but even a skilled person can fumble the ball.
I got red rank with drag and struggled but got to rank with jin and was much easier. currently trying to learn Leo now but ranked especially this early i feel is very inflated especially with the pluggers in the game currently but honestly it's easier to rank up in T8 compared to T7 but the experience is what makes the rank grind fun or dreadful.
I think the problem with folks arguing what's "intermediate" play is that a lot of fighting game players both overestimate what "average" play looks like and underestimate how much their experience in the genre helps.
Also Tekken is in general a knowledge check heavy game just cause of the size of the movelists so yeah people are going to get away with gimmicks even on the higher ranks just with less frequency.
I got so close to getting into the Garyu red rank but one crazy losing streak got me demoted from eliminator to destroyer lol
Im new to fighting games/tekken I've been playing almost for 2 weeks now. I make it to vanquisher and I am quite proud of myself even though is consider a low rank
LOL blue is intermediate WHAT?! High orange is intermediate, reds I'd consider you good at the game, and blue and beyond you're really good. I think some of these ranks get inflated due to how easy it is to plug and avoid any losses and just continue climbing ranks where lots of players really don't belong. LTG is a great example of someone who got where he is ranked wise by constantly plugging. Its not all the representation but I think it skews it a bit.
I made it to Purple Rank in T7 with Lars (which I’m proud of because he was pretty low on the tiers most of the time) and coming to T8 I felt that it would be too easy to rank up with him and switched to Reina. Now I’m stuck in Tenryu 🥲 but I’m proud because she’s harder to play than Lars
For me i like it between hardcore players and casual players i stuck myself within red ranks, to play the whole majority of the player base
Wish I could tell how much of my improvement is me or the system being more forgiving because I know for a fact I got better