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8:00 What’s sad is how much flaming the support guy was doing against the tank while in the clip that was shown the orisa fortified and walked in front of her to make sure the Ana doesn’t get pinned after the rein shattered her
exactly what I noticed like that was a good play from them. Was hard to watch them complain yet they were maybe not the problem, but they weren't exactly contributing the most even the echo seeing the mercy wasn't with them should have preemptively anticipated they would need heals. type of player that would just sit on ana and blame everyone else when maybe they try a different healer and it would work better for that comp.
"Half of you would rather learn why someone else is making a mistake than why you are making a mistake." So God damn true
Coping Mechanism: Always easier to blame others than accept youre trash
As a support main the LOS issue is big, however seeing this guy I understand why people don't take LOS seriously
It wouldve been good to have a healer that can heal through walls as Jenos from Paladins
@@SHUTENSEPCsupport is already brain dead enough.
It's a big issue but also 50/50 who's fault it is for the los
I think a lot of supports need to realize LOS is their issue 9/10
Like sure if I over push or put myself around a corner that's my fault but if I'm just out in the open and the support can't see me because they're on one of the flanks and theirs an LOS block thats a support issue they need to move I'm doing my thing like normal I can't see when they don't see me I can just assume based on my own positioning.
(Said from tank POV btw)
If you get los'd every now and then, unlucky it happens, you lost that fight because of it don't think about it and get ready for the next fight. If you get los'd all the time then it's 100% your own fault your positioning is garbo and you need to work on it.
0:55 i love how his chat just collectively started typing @Flats , truly beautiful
Lmao! I was a bit confused about what's going on, but this makes sense. Bah ha ha ha ha!
“Dead by daylight for supports except your the killer!” Is very true as a support main
and verry sad as a tank main
Yeah I don't think supports should have as much frag potential as they currently do. Like Illari has the ability to wipe a team by herself if she positions her ult well enough. I don't think that should even be a possibility
@@kybalerton2608"if the enemy team all group up for her" not "if she positions it well enough"
*plays dos into current support lineup* dinked by Kiriko, dinked by illari, punted into next week by zens doomfoot. Fight to hit every shot, only to have your hard earned kill pulled, frisbee'd, or suzu'd. When you do get a kill, res.
Flats saying "my friend" at 6:01 was so passively aggressive 😂
Gotta love Flats
That last comment from flats hits right home. I've been playing ow since 2017 but my friends either jumped or joined only now n have too much catching up to do.
But a new fun fps could be smth we start learning together again (including everyone else. That first year of a new multiplayer is so fun, when everyone is still testing what works n is just having fun)
While this is fitting for a perspective of an Overwatch player, I don't necessarily see it as reflective of competitive FPS as a whole. While yes, Overwatch takes a long time to properly 'get good' at, this is due to the hero shooter design.
Overwatch relies on you learning heroes and their unique playstyles which is going to be exhausting, but a game like CS:GO doesn't necessarily have that requirement for getting good. Only certain weapons require specific spray control and sniping isn't exactly super unique.
Even for Rainbow Six and Valorant, two other hero shooters, the reliance is still on aiming skill as well as general game sense. Valorant has a bit more required knowledge for learning specific character abilities, but overall it is still pretty similar to Counter Strike. For Rainbow Six, map knowledge and game flow sense trumps anything else and that doesn't require studying the pros to figure out.
Overwatch is just particularly difficult to learn uniquely because the heroes are all each incredibly unique in playstyle. Not all of the heroes even have a gun that shoots, and those that do are split up into categories of what kind of projectiles they even use. And with all the abilities flying around and being applied and taken off, Overwatch is simply just not an easy game to get into. I simply see it as Overwatch players just assuming these other games having huge skill gaps and immense depth that simply just doesn't exist in these other games.
@@AstinCrowthe issue with that is that aim/mechanical skill is 1000x harder to perfect than learning a matchup or character abilities in any game
character abilities and their most influential aspects are easy to notice off a glance since you see them be get used and see the influence they have first hand
lesser abilities you'll probably notice the effects of but might have to look at the character description to find out what it does
nuanced details of abilities will be hard to notice but it only takes a couple searches to understand what's happening with the ability you're confused about
for example let's take viper from valorant
it's very obvious that viper's toxic screen is one of her most influential abilities as you have ample warning where it is and it's extremely obvious what it does, her poison cloud and snake bite might take a bit to understand but once you know that the cloud is a smoke grenade and the bite is a molotov it's very easy to understand what they do, then you can look up viper's wiki page to find out that people who walk into your snake bite get inflicted with vulnerable meaning they take more damage while it's active making you understand that it's less of a passive damage source and is more impactful for you to follow up on
now there's aiming which in itself is a hard skill to learn since everyone has a unique aim style and some aiming types will be easier to grasp than others depending on it (projectiles vs hitscan mainly), aiming itself requires you to have the right mindset, good hand-eye coordination and different parts of aiming need to be used in every situation depending on positioning/game sense and the person you're shooting at
for example if you're that same viper player and you're preparing to push onto a site from the low ground you'll have to start off clearing your corners and flicking to common holding areas, then you'll have to hold while the spike gets planted testing your reaction speed to see if you'll be able to shoot the person trying to retake before they shoot you, then once you've planted you can take the high ground making you have to focus more on the height of your crosshair so you don't accidentally shoot over their head while trying to keep your crosshair head height, then a jett dashes past the door you're holding making you have to track where she went to finally kill her
tldr: abilities are easier to learn since they rarely ever change but aiming is a basic skill that changes from situation to situation and mastering it is a night and day difference compared to mastering matchups vs abilities/characters
That Ana is the kind of Support mains that regular Support mains hate. She's like the Karen of Support mains.
That’s a lot of supports in bronze & low silver sadly
A good Ana is a lifesaver and playmaker.
A bad Ana is alright,m. Just make sure you know where they are and play around them.
A bad Ana in comms is with the largest piece of human filth the world has ever known, or self deprecating.
i mean i used to main her and but instead i just try to adjust with the team yknow if i die
support main? that thing??
the only support main i see is a mercy, other than that there was an AFK Ana
That ana one hurt me and I'm a tank player who plays lots of ana when I support
i don’t watch tiktok but i’d watch flats watch tiktok every day if i could
SAMEEEEE
That last bit about ranked is why I’m taking my time climbing, just learning the ropes. I’m determined to maintain my status as a OTP, even if I can’t get to top 500. For me, the challenge is going to be getting as high as I can…and then pushing that as best as I can until I get higher. I know I could be going into bad matchups, and I know that I might lose a lot of games. But the only way for me to make playing ranked fun is to just play the character that I like, go up against poorly matched odds, and maybe even come out on top a handful of times.
1:45 now that's GOTTA be rage bait I don't believe anyone would be like that 😭
I’m so glad that people are becoming aware that a handful of support mains have a straight up doom gloom it’s everyone but me mentality. That ego needs to be shot down.
I dont know, when my team insists on standing in front of an enemy Bap window when they could take two steps to the left to get behind a wall AND they do it multiple times. It's not my fault I can't heal that.
The victim mentality that some Support players have is crazy
@@user-hj5lg7xe1qthat is a large amount of hate, ana's pretty powerful but this hate is also cringe
@@user-hj5lg7xe1q
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Bro the first clip was so surprising, it made me drop my fork while i was eating. That lifeweaver had the right instinct to save his doom but idek how the pull was that strong it flinged him off the map😂
@@H4licarnassuswhat? The doom was pulled not dva, pretty sure it was because he used his shift
You actually made a crazy valid point at the end about the same 5-10 games and the whole hard to trasnfer to another game thing.
the main character syndrome for support players now is crazy
That Ana complaining about teammates was such massive cope. People will look for any excuse to blame people other than themselves for a loss
Your old man skit had me cackling, it was too good haha.
As a support main if you have chosen a character that can heal over a distance then there's no reason outside of rotation for team los or being pushed off that you should not be on highground.
It solves alot of los problems over small walls and obstacles. Obviously if they're fighting inside some building you probably should avoid that cluster truck of a wreck and fire from outside the door as much as possible. I hate getting stuck inside buildings cause a few stray anything hits the supports inside a building brawl will end that teamfight pretty quick.
Honestly outside of a tank going a mile into the enemy, dps thinking they're tanks and pushing a mile past our tank or the team not waiting to regroup and let the supports get out of spawn to catch up I can usually find a path around most wall issues by posting up somewhere high. Even if that means jumping just to make the heals hit the team that's at least more helpful than being on low grounds.
If you're playing a closer support then usually los shouldn't be too bad because you're in it with them. Like Lucio wall riding in and around the fight, Brig usually can weave in and out, Moira only has orb to long distance heal so she's usually good to play in the middle ground and escape, ect.
Pick highground for longer distance play or play midground with the other characters.
LOS really sucks if they're pushing in without thought. Like I probably wouldn't have pushed so hard in if I was that Orisa after losing a dps unless I was confident on securing an equal kill but you could've been on highground and been nading from behind there and helped them secure the kill. Sometimes getting the kill before healing your teammate is the better option. If they're dead they're not damaging your teammate and you can heal them immediately after.
Stop pulling me?
I felt that 😂
Some people like to say that their teammates are bad, but if they are your teammates, that means that you are bad as well.
Skill based matchmaking
extra effort to catch up is literally why i havent played any new fps games. Wanted to get into apex, it looked so fun, but learning everything was so overwhelming i installed it and havent opened it since i first downloaded the game, figuring out which characters are good, which guns are good, what loadouts, learning the maps, ect.
In my opinion telling people to counter pick in bronze is terrible advice. Personally as someone who played 99% support (got to masters) but I was like silver DPS, because I never played it the key to actually ranking up was stopping trying to constantly counterpick and trying to play every hero and just learning a few specific hero's, I think a lot of low ranked players will just constantly be playing mystery hero and it doesn't help, youll learn a lot more my specialising in a few characters you like.
That pull was hilarious 😭😭😭
first clip is literally the least trolling lifeweaver
I played lw before the buffs as kinda as a one trick and he was definitely niche but i really enjoy their playstyle for some reason ngl
Love ya flats ong my fav ow content creator 🥰💜😘
“Dear Father Flats…” could be a series!
I rarely pull tanks as LW, only if they're absolutely critical, and usually I don't do it in time because I leave it to the last possible second. But I was playing support with another person who was LW who kept pulling the tank for literally no reason, which severely hindered our whole team on making plays.
Lifeweaver at the very least seems like he is a solid character, then again, I main Anduin in Heroes of the Storm so I might be biased.
hey flats here hella early like usual just wanna say i love your stuff and keep it up
Not the first time Lifeweaver pulled off a Doomfist I’ll tell you what
That Eco Got deleted.
I play OW2 for 1-2 hours for 3 days a week. I hit plat 5 once but that was in summer break.
I was playing Ilari and we also had a mercy so our tank just stood in the open while we sat there healing him with pylon and all..
Champ in siege just switched the OW and I'm struggling haha
I’m older than Flats but I will now call him Father Flats
so true flats
The last comment about being stuck in your own game, without the ability to move to a new one, hits really hard. I'm so used to Destiny as my main game that tried to flip over to OverWatch or Siege is near impossible. The mechanics alone just feel two off and I get constantly smoked.
Boomer Flats has me dead 😂😂😂💀 @6:45
As a Ana main i have never seen such a horrible spot to hang with your rifle.
The best decision I've ever made in life, is to never climb ranked in any competitive game
Flats is so damn funny. i wish i found him sooner xD
I'm a QuickPay only player, did comp once and got plat on tank, but played support to try out illari but she got insta locked, so I picked lifeweaver, never did even with a sombra after me in the first fight, kept the pedal beside me and used it to get away. Never died and basically full held the map, he's good now but I feel like I do more with illari due to the damage
2:47 this is so true, im in silver 5 and playing hog is really bad, everyone shoots you and after that the team go to the fight
I feel like counterpicking in bronze doesn't even work because they either completely lack the skill to execute the counterpick or don't know why it's a counterpick.
I'm very critical of myself so it's not difficult for me to improve but I actively refuse to play cringe and am tired of getting blamed for things that aren't my fault. It's not my fault that I get rolled after getting anti naded and you refuse to play Kiriko or Baptiste.
Flats proving how horrible he understands Killer in DBD. The only Killer who's worth her salt is Nurse cause Nurse is broken, thankfully, cause SWF survivors can bully yo ass
Lol this was funny
You havent watched it yet
@@timda9896 Lmao
no way that ana is really complaining about their team when they play like that.
6:29 okay yes obviously this ana was out of position, but that doesn't change the fact that his tank still went behind a wall and died.
I mean, then what was the tank supposed to do? Sit behind the wall to maintain LOS until the enemy gets 100% on obj?
Edit: plus, the tank prob saw the enemy tank retreat behind the pillar and took the opportunity to rotate and isolate the cass to stop him from getting free shots from highground. Let’s not forget that they’re in the same rank too
@@listlie the tank was down most of his team and he started pushing past choke 😭 what he should have done was back up and regroup with his team on high ground. my point is that ALL of those players were doing bad.
@@user-hj5lg7xe1q most original youtube commenter
the real support advice: DO NOT CARE ABT EVERYONE ELSE. i do this too often, go out of my way to help a teammate who is making terrible decisions n end up dying for it with them. if they won’t make it so they can be healed then LET THEM DIE. usually you’ll help a teammate and they’ll just leave you to die anyway, so let them die and then try to enable their right decisions after next group up. good (or at least aware n aren’t twats) tanks & dps will get back into position or if they die they know it’s their fault.
Not a mistake by the Lifeweaver. The only mistake is the tank picked Doomfist.
The Dead by daylight comment has new meaning. Season one for support was like running away from the killer. Season six is now the tank playing against survivors that will never let you get a kill.
As an upcoming doom player I have a love hate with life weaver because sometimes I do over extend like when all my cool downs are out and I still jump in but if I ult I am fine for like a solid 10 to 20 seconds before needing a pull. Just believe in me for a moment.
good video
The only way to climb playing tanks that aren't meta is if you're a GOD at them
What da dog doin?
The only time I’ve hit a wall that I just couldn’t push past was getting to D1 and then playing with a duo trio all D1 but we get mast5-3 and it’s like a dam wall completely different league, but playing rein most of my time it’s hard very hard.
Went on a tilt que down to gold 1 got back to plat 4-2 before finishing the season and not being able to play until next year sometime unfortunately, but I guess not having to play into horse for a whole season is definitely worth not playing XD
Tok of the tik.....
Dafran the only guy to be good in any game 😂
winton
father flats xD
papa flats :D
Hang on legit question arent kiriko and ana the only 2 support characters for countering?
0:40 the doom even lived, if you look at the kill feed the dva remech got the kill, not an SD
4:44 Should've been the life of a Genji main cus this guy is hella deflecting
Me playing low silver tank and only having zarya/orisa/ball work
12:04 I honestly agree and have thought maybe this partly the reason why these fps titles haven’t been putting in as much effort as they should be for their players, because there is no “big dog” to compete with
When i was in bronze there is 0 teamwork tbh everyone takes a 1v1 and everyone dies
not me lowkey triggered somjuu got cut off lol
4:43 Im a support main, and I'm Silver 5, all I got to say, *He can clearly heal the orisa if he stay on high ground,* and also he could reposition as fast as possible to make sure the tank is in Los,
idk about other games but for my game, I'll try my best to reposition my ana to make sure I can at least see the tank and at least one DPS, and his position is so bad because he cannot see anyone, is that guy really a support main?
me just wanting to play a game to have fun with friends yet companies would rather release season 50 of their over microtransactioned game and put out a patch every 3 months that rarely changes much at all
Yeah but sometimes your tank goes 1v5 and is unaware everyone else is dead and they keep doing it over and over no matter how much advice you give them
FATHER FLATS
I have an actual tip for mercy players from gold to bronze. If your team has a hitscan, or someone who flys stay with them. Trust your other support to keep up the tank for a decent bit of the fight. That will help your dps actually do their job. The amount of times ive seen yall pocket the tank is mind blowing only to start flaming the dps because they lost duels. Its your job to support them in those duels. If they are losing them, you hold half the responsibility in most cases.
Man, with my "skill" and disabilities im just glad 2/3 of my roles are gold
As a Ball player, having a good lifeweaver who pulls me out when I actually mess up it's great, but whenever I get a lw who pulls me out for just doing Ball stuff I tell them to uninstall and disconnect
I have seen all these tt's 💀😭
12:01 btw so real
4 tik toks 11 mins
I’ve only been playing overwatch since November 2020. I’m a support main and there’s just too much “noise” going on the entire game. Plus, I’m constantly getting qp lobbies where people feel the need to be toxic, for whatever reason.
I’ve switched over to valorant, and I’m really enjoying my time with it. There’s a lot less flashing lights
12:04 Truuuu - also really encouraging to try and be like good at a selection of games because even streamers and stuff really rarely are e.g. shroud was like gold in overwatch for a good amount of time, that's ignoring fighting games, racing games etc.
You can play dva sometimes even in a high elo lvl doe
I stopped playing support at season 2 and peaked on tank at season 3 my best and most fun season yet. The most powerful i felt as a zen was 1v1 ing the season 1 doom LMAO WAS IT FUN THO
tank players ask a tank about playing a tank
I don’t really care about what game I play. It is just if I have fun, I don’t care if I am the best of the best
Tik of the tok
Can anyone explain? I used to only play Quick play and do very well majority of the time on DPS. Wanted to really try ranked and it’s been miserable! I do OK some games, sometimes bad but we just always lose. I don’t care to blame teammates but holy shit it’s so different makes me not want to play after a few games. Usually straight steam roll lose too 😢
5:40 when he said he’s gold he means he’s gold 5 higher than 5% of people in your rank
just what is this background music
me about to send this to my bronze friend who lost 10/11 games: :) ( i dont think he'll get out of there)
12:20 immortal 3 valorant player who swapped to overwatch here. Let me say, it is a FUCKING PAIN to learn a new game. Right now, im about 350 hours in and at masters on dps and diamond on tank. I am playing against people who have been playing this game since i was playing minecraft on my dads old computer.
Ngl Flats is like the Andrew Tate of Overwatch 2
as someone who in the last few months has gone from bronze to plat If you are actually struggling to get out of bronze on tank become semi competent at
orisa
rein
zarya
dva
and rog
and I can guarantee you a 65% win rate
walk out on orisa on most maps (zarya might be strongest rn but she's so boring. I never want to be the one to aggravate a zarya duel from the start.)
map pick exceptions (numbani-dva illios(well)-rog)
IGNORE ULT CHARGE (except for dva bomb because that's a guaranteed 3k in bronze but in 85% of scenarios matchup is more important than ult economy for tanks because most tank ults suck anyway)
play orisa for rein rammy rog doom and queen
play rein for sig and zar
play zar for orisa, queen and dva
play dva for winston rog rein(play highground) orisa
finally rog is a last resort anti dive. If you are just getting absolutely rolled by a wreckingball or doomfist swap rog and just make it your lifes goal to stop them from leaving. don't bring them in you just save them a cooldown. stop their retreat and they just melt.
final note. in my mind the most important aspect of ranking up at a low level is figuring out who is beating you. your job isn't necessarily to 1v1 the tank. if they have a gengi that is wrecking your backlines then play rein or zar. stop the one that's beating you not the one in the same role as you
can we get more comp games ,bronze is old
Hello Father Flats. I’m a bronze rank player. I’m bad and the supports keep bullying me.
As I climb the ranks I am certain that it’s impossible to solo queue support to gm. I solo queued tank to gm in a few days as well as dps yet it’s been weeks and am still masters in support. I think support is the only role that can truly blame their teammates
So the FCKng op new Tank gets buffed?! How you're get Close to kill him without winton??
Support is like dbd but they are actually the survivor, however, it’s a survivor sided season, and they’re entitled asf. Not to mention they’re super toxic.
And the best killers available is myers, trapper, and wraith (tank)
If you're playing tank at a lower level, I would argue that you should just hold W no matter what, you can't rely on decent healing, so you shouldn't be relying on supports heavily. You will either walk in and roll, or you will fall over, but that's okay. Eventually you will learn where and when you should play aggressive, instead of being a meat shield standing in front of your dps hoping they kill something for you, never improving because you're trying to rely too heavily on your team. Tank does not mean stand there and eat damage, you are a dps with a heap of health, play like it. Also, if you see someone by themselves, that's your target now, end them or die trying and eventually you will learn which 1v1's you should be taking and when.
"As a tank player stop pulling me" thats terrible information. If they're doomfist probably dont go LW, because in any rank less than GM its a fine line between them inting or making a play. Most of the time its inting but they *will* get mad at you regardless.
That being said, just play kiriko lmao
It's good information. As a tank player, stop pulling me.
I played a gold game and got 56 elims, so yes I think that is what my games look like